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Computer Records Hold Key In IMF Head's Sexual Assault Case
Hugh Pickens writes "ABA Journal reports that the chief of the International Monetary Fund may claim consent as a defense to accusations that he sexually assaulted a maid at the Sofitel Hotel in New York as defense lawyer Benjamin Brafman told the judge he believed the 'forensic evidence' was 'not consistent with forcible encounter.' Police have said the maid knocked on Strauss-Kahn's door and called out, used her master keycard to open the door, and left her work cart in the doorway, a typical safety practice in hotels. According to the police account, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked, tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape. The NY Times explains how the key card evidence may play out: 'If the defense for Mr. Strauss-Kahn maintains that the encounter was consensual, its version will have to accommodate the unambiguous computer record of her leaving the door propped open,' the story says."
We're following this tabloid crap on Slashdot just because a door has an electronic sensor on it !? Get real, for fuck's sake.
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anyone know what lock system it is?
I only know the specifics of three electronic lock systems...
and all three that I know? only key swiping.. not closings or how long a door was open.
they can't even tell if the door was actually opened-- they can only tell that a key was used
as in, if I flash my key and the lock goes green but I don't open the door?
it records the key use but doesn't know I didn't open it.
if the master metal override key is used is also recorded (and even triggering that event in the memory)
wouldn't require the door to be opened (although it would be noticeable)
anyone know of a lock system that does all they suggest?
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tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape
If the defense for Mr. Strauss-Kahn maintains that the encounter was consensual, its version will have to accommodate the unambiguous computer record of her leaving the door propped open,'
Above 2 statements are contradictory
It's not opening the door, it's keeping it open with the cleaning cart that matters. Unless she was a pervert who enjoys fucking with the door open, of course.
As a french, let me tell you, thank you America for doing what our justice system failed to do for at least 10 years.
The "unambiguous computer records" at issue here are the supposed times and codes of door openings and times of closings. It's unambiguously useless for telling apart situation (a) the attempted rapist guest closes the door and (b) the maid interested in extracurricular activities closes the door.
This is about reconciling their stories. Evidence of lying is a good place to start.
would be a linkage to a well-secured account on the Cayman islands, with $2 million deposited by a French entity, at the maid's discrete disposal.
DSK is very famous for its relationship with women. He loves sex and women love him.
Generally, the women are very satisfied. Why on earth would he run after a maid if she was not make him advances ?
In this story, only idiots could believe he is a sexual predator, the plot theory is by far the most probable.
It is not the first try to trap him on his sexual weakness, but it is the first time it is not defeated.
well according to other reports on the Intertubes, she may be HIV+ so the unabiguous computer records will be trumped by the unambigous antibody records...
The antibody records says nothing about the plot theory. In fact, if she is HIV+, this gives her a good reason to sell her services. She has nothing to loose and she needs money for medicine.
Ahhhh, nothing like a good conspiracy theory with my morning coffee. Brightens my day. However, I prefer the more mundane, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. No matter what, two lives are irrevocably changed and not for the better.
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Oh, he is not in his first assault offense, or so it would seem. He is known for his love of sex, yes, but also for his temperamental behavior.
That said, was it an "assault" or just an advance that was a little too harsh? Where does the law draws the line there?
Plus, the maid saying "I didn't know who he was" is also laughable. If she didn't know he was full of money, she'd never had sued in the first place.
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I heard on the radio the other day that hotel and city surveillance cameras were going to be the key to prove his innocence or guilt since they are virtually EVERYWHERE in New York City.
The other interesting tidbit of information is that DSK said that he would be set-up in some sort of entrapment sex scandal a few weeks before he arrived in the USA.
Makes you wonder...
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It's obviously an alien conspiracy against Strauss-Kahn. He is himself an alien from Alpha Centauri and aliens from Sirius are vying control of Earth from Alpha Centauri aliens. To this end they have hired a shapeshifter from Vega to entrap him.
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Famous indeed....
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
It is not the first try to trap him on his sexual weakness, but it is the first time it is not defeated.
"Oh no! My one weakness : sex! If only you hadn't been a woman cleaning my room when I stepped out of the shower or I might have been able to resist fucking you!"
Don't make me laugh. If she's lying, that's one thing. But I don't think that 'sexual weakness' is a valid defence in court, somehow. This all reminds me of Julian Assange - it is possible that DSK is very good at his job, and great in many other ways, but _at the same time_ a sexual predator to some extent.
I'm sure it's just coincidence that on his first non-diplomatic trip to the US after denouncing the US Dollar Strauss-Kahn is found to be a perv, thrown in Riker's Island, and Geithner demands his resignation.
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Hmm, man walks out of bathroom after having showered only to find someone in his room who may or may not be the maid. Could he have not thought she was a burglar or simply have being trying to force her out of the room whilst he got dressed? (Hey if everyone else can speculate with no facts to go on, lets join in!)
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Even if she's HIV+, can you prove the HIV came from DSK? Does DSK even have HIV?
Only an idiot denies that sexual urges are rational. Some men like the chase. Where is the passion if women are lining up to suckle at your manly teet? Chasing tail is exhilerating, and overcoming objections is ego-boosting. Likely, he has done things like this before, and has previously relied on women's shame or discretion to keep it out of the courts. This time he was not so lucky.
Obviously, this comment came from a man that is just as delusional and egotistical as DSK. He THINKS that all women want to have sex with him. In reality, he is garbage. I am looking forward to reading about evidence DSK's untimely death.
The maid will claim he shut the door to imprison her, he will claim they shut the door after mutually agreeing to sex. So these records prove nothing
Fortunately the accused in our system don't have to prove anything, just convince the jury that there's reasonable doubt. If it boils down to a he-said/she-said situation, that shouldn't be too hard. If there's further evidence of sexual entrapment, even easier.
But, no matter, he'll have been replaced at the IMF even before a pre-trial hearing, so the goal will have been met and it doesn't matter what the judicial outcome is.
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I bet a few people where listening to bugs planted in that room. too bad that kind of evidence will never become public.
Somewhat related to your point; Daniel Kinge, creator and owner of Sparklebox (a website packed with great primary education resources he spent many years creating) also happens to be in jail for creating and possession of indecent images of children. A lot of UK schools have blocked Sparklebox because of this. Personally, I think it is a little short sighted and smacks of knee-jerk response, as there was no evidence to show that Sparklebox was in any way used to groom or harvest the details of children for sexual predation, yet teachers are now "deprived" of the educational content he created.
I say "deprived" as many teachers access the site from home and bring the resources in on memory sticks or printed paper. The guy deserves to be in jail for his crimes, of which there are maybe a handful more abhorrent, but that doesn't stop him being a very good teacher.
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I have a few quite celebrity-aware friends. I'm always amazed at how many celebrities (A- to D-list) I come across when I'm with them. I can conceive of a poor immigrant woman not having either knowledge nor interest about the west's current nomenklatura. I'm French and, honestly, before this, I probably wouldn't have recognized him either. His name I would, his face,not.
She's been cleaning $3000 a night rooms for 3 years. If she wanted to blackmail people, she wouldn't run off to the police, she would probably target business, sports, show-business people rather than politicians, and above all she would ask privately for money, not publicly for justice.
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whether or not he "raped" her I don't know. Sexual assault could be as simple as she saw him naked and he made some stupid joke in an embarrassing situation and she thought he was coming onto her. In any case, If she walks away with a large cash settlement I'm pretty sure her life will be better.
I don't know what the layout of this guys suite was, probably nothing like a regular hotel room, but I've stayed in quite a few hotels where the bathroom door is right next to the room door. I don't always take a change of clothes with me when I take a shower when I'm alone in the room. If I came out of the bathroom expecting to go get dressed and found myself standing in front of the room door wide open, with or without a trolly blocking it, I might be inclined to close door so other guest walking by wouldn't have to see my ugly naked butt as I went for clothes.
I don't have to assume he has a lot of money or that the maid may not be quite as well off.
I see two scenarios:
1) It could be possible for her to have seen a situation to make some money in a settlement, with him or the hotel, by consenting to sex then later saying she was assaulted.
2) It could also be possible that he did rape her thinking he could buy his way out later.
Either way, I don't see the door records proving either situation.
I love it when technological forensics like this helps to clear matters up.
[Wild conjecture follows:] The fellow seems snarky enough to have made that statement with foreknowledge that he planned to take advantage of the maid, so as to have his prior claims that someone might set him up would be a ready defense.
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Dammit, how did Assange manage to get TWO women, I only got one, and it's the housemaid for Pete's sake...
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The reputation of DSK is his weakness, because that gives suspicion that the maid could tell the truth. You need to learn more about the guy to be convinced it is a plot or a big deformation of reality.
A plot? Much has been made of the fact that he mentioned the possibility of such a thing happening a month before this happened. What occurs to me now is this : why didn't he follow his instincts? If he thought there was some genuine possibility that he might be set up, then why try not having sex with random maids.
I'm willing to entertain the possibility that it might be a setup. But if there is reasonable evidence of sexual intercourse between the two of them, then he is either an idiot or a liar.
Why on earth would he run after a maid if she was not make him advances ?
The same question could be asked about most rapists. Or did you think rapists were only ugly men who never got any. Also his story doesn't make sense.
His story only makes sense if there is a conspiracy to convict him of rape. But we haven't seen any evidence of that. There is no story that she received a bunch of money recently. Or that she actually works for the CIA. All evidence points to this being some normal maid working a normal day at a hotel.
Ah, but, in many cases, people will differ on what the simplest explanation is.
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I agree with you that it doesn't make sense from a purely logical point of view, but I can totally understand why a school would block that site like it was radioactive. The school's head(s) would be thinking about what parents would say, I suppose.
Must suck to be a teacher that relied on this, though. What can you say : "I know he was a paedophile, BUT it's a great site!"?
Hopefully she used some teeth and gargled some spit down his dick.
Some women might well enjoy DSK. That does not mean all will. Some might like an aggressive approach. Not all will. He has had some past accusations (withdrawn).
The victim is a muslim widow from West Africa with political asylum. She reported immediately and is inconsoleable. Unless this can be disproven and she is unmasked as some sort of agent, her word is good.
If DSK is a predator, he would not wait for advances. If he is not a predator, why would he even respond to advances? Knowing the danger, he would have keeped it zipped.
Or does 58% of france believe that true men never say no? LOL!
Remove the door before attempting rape.
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Perhaps I should add the word rational.
#1
A baby is born in Hawaii 45 years ago. Today, as a US citizen, he is President of the United States
#2
45 Years ago a cabal implemented a plan to put in place a man who will bring socialism and destruction to America. They used a fake birth certificate, bribed doctors, used actors portraying parents and grand parents stating he was born in the US, while the truth is he was born in kenya, trained as a convert operative in Indonesia; they manipulated the election so he could finally bring ruin to this country.
#2 is more fun, #1 is more rational and that's how I hope we mainly look at things. His dick "Allegedly" overcame his rational mind and he did something very stupid. They both pay for it in the end, no matter the outcome, and that is the sad point.
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You're a sick fuck, dude.
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> Under siege by thieves who regularly got their hands on old-fashioned room keys, hotels in New York began using electronic locks on their doors in 1977 .. They would leave an electronic trail, stamped with the times that a door opened, closed or was left ajar..
I know of no such system that will detecd a door "left ajar".
> Benjamin Brafman, a lawyer for Mr. Strauss-Kahn, declared that the evidence was “not consistent with forcible encounter”
Has such evidence been released if so can we see it. I do know such systems have an offline mode where there would be no records kept. In such an offline system, each lock has to be visited in turn in order to register a master passcard. It performs some kind of checksum on the guest cards. Even if the locks were online they may not have been keeping full records.
“They would have a record of her using the key to gain access .. They should have a record of the door remaining open for X period of time, and the door lock being actuated again. The system can differentiate between the guest’s card key and the housekeeper’s master key.”
The word 'would', suggests the lawyer doesn't have any evidence, the corrected headline should read: Computer records hold key in IMF head's sexual assault, is pure speculation by the defence counsel.
Plus, the maid saying "I didn't know who he was" is also laughable. If she didn't know he was full of money, she'd never had sued in the first place.
What do you mean sue? Sexual assault is a criminal charge.
If I were the lead investigator, the first thing I would do is ask both parties to take a lie detector exam. And I *WOULD NOT* allow the FBI or any other federal agency to administer it.
This whole thing smells fishy as hell to me. First Julian Assnage, now this guy. It seems that a lot of people these days are deciding to become rapists right after they cross the U.S.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but the way I'm reading it, there are 2 possible scenarios.
1) Straight from TFS, "According to the police account, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked, tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape".
2) She did consent, and either he or she shut the door for some privacy.
In both cases, the door gets shut.
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Yeah, I bet the FBI is busy rounding up all that footage even as we speak. "Yes, we need ALL the copies. Having them all helps with our investigation. And if it's digital, we'll need all your hard drives too. It's all spelled out in this subpoena that was signed by a judge the day before the rape."
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Maybe he looked at Julian Assange and saw what happens to those who cross the U.S.
Making statements against the dollar, taking a decisive lead over a pro-U.S. administration, being a socialist...these are the kinds of things can can lead a man into a life of sex crime. tsk...tsk
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
According to a few reports I've heard, DSK is well known for making passes at women. Aggressively, in some cases. I doubt he pre-planned jumping the maid (I've seen maids in many hotels. Not always good.) but given his track record, he figured there might be some opportunity for playing grab-ass on this trip. So make the statement up front and deflect any subsequent complaints.
Have gnu, will travel.
For example, if a male guest calls for service, the housekeeping department will send up a male attendant.
“Oftentimes, male guests will order the pay-per-view adult movies, and then call for towels, perhaps hoping that a woman will be sent to bring them up,” said Peter M. Krauss, chief sales and marketing officer for Plasticard Locktech International of Asheville, N.C., which provides card keys to hotels. “So whenever they can, the hotels will send up a male if the call comes from a male guest.”
Pssht! There are three kinds of adult movies.... And for one kind, it might be safer to send a female attendant, especially if the guest ordered extra soap...
Guy has a history of sexual harassment/assault. Victim says she was assaulted and forensic evidence seems to support her account. There's no need to invent conspiracy theories here.
Just because a guy happens to be a "socialist" or French or anti-US doesn't make him *not* a rich, powerful douche who thinks he can do whatever he likes to whomever he likes. This guy violated another human being and deserves what he gets. I don't care who he is or what he thinks about our currency.
While the GP comes across poorly, the point is that his "sexual weakness" could be that he likes to have sex with attractive younger women. Such encounters can be dangerous for a married politician, but even more so for one visiting the United States with no diplomatic immunity only months after openly advocating for moving away from the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. Also, don't forget his unpopular comments in last year's documentary "Inside Job".
"I'm going to be framed!" Sow the seeds of reasonable doubt before the crime.
Indeed. I'm sure he had been stalking this maid for months, noting her cleaning scheduling and practicing his bathroom hiding routine. FFS, how does something like this get modding Insightful?
That, or "Hmm, there's a fair chance during this trip that I simply won't be able to resist raping a cleaning-lady or two. I'd better sow some seeds of reasonable doubt, just in case."
Either way... entirely possible, in theory, but still pretty far-fetched.
I'm by no means an expert in this field, but from what I've read of the psychology of rapists, it's usually more about the power than the sex. Most men who rape men are heterosexual - they're sexually aroused by the act of forcing themselves on someone else, not by their victims.
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The bit about the blow job sounds very suspect to me, not that I'm into rape, but if I was, I would not stick my dick in some ones mouth - ouch, even if she had no teeth, she could cause me an awful lot of pain with her gums.
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lie detectors are not accurate.
There are so many factors which can alter the results.
The easiest is the simple butthole clench. It alters your blood pressure instantly, which affects the results of the polygraph.
Now, an FMRI lie detector is 100% fool proof unless you've undergone extreme training to beat them.
They're using their grammar skills there.
Looking at the comments to the story linked above, there is one relevant one (that I happen to agree with), which I will quote here.
Bob The Horse on May 17, 6:23 AM said:
@KM: That makes total sense. On your logic, his thought process must have run like this.
1. I want to run for French President. But I also want to rape people.
2. If I'm going to rape people, I would prefer to do it in a nice hotel room. I better have a cover story.
3. Give interview saying I am worried about a honeytrap.
4. Go to NY and stay in nice hotel.
5. Need to go to airport to fly back for meeting with EU leaders re: Greece, etc. But have a little bit of time to kill. Maybe can squeeze in a quick rape before my flight.
6. Here's a maid. I bet no one will ever be able to trace this back to me and it definitely won't impact my chances of being President of France.
Either he is the most stupid person in the world or he has been totally stitched up.
indeed, it makes you wonder if he didn't plan this ahead of time with the intent of framing those he claims are framing him.
According to what information we've been given as fact, the maid entered the room shortly after 12:00 noon, and he checked out at 12:28. In that time, according to the maid he chased her, forced her to give him oral, anally raped her, tried to vaginally rape her. Anyone that's anal sex knows it's save to assume he must have washed up at lest a little. We know he put on his suit before checking out. I'm not saying I have opinion either way, but that is a lot to do in 25 minutes.
Yes it does. Unless you're implying that he planned to rape an HIV-positive maid in NYC weeks before his trip?
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
"I'm going to be framed!" Sow the seeds of reasonable doubt before the crime.
What would DSK have to gain by commiting this crime?
You know, as head of the IMF, I'm sure DSK could afford a decent call girl if he needed. In fact, what's to say this maid wasn't his call girl a la Elliot Spitzer's "Audre Dupre"?
More details needed before we decide to hang this guy publicly.
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Using FMRI is not fool proof. You don't even need to be trained in it to beat that. At most its 80% effective, which will not be admissable in court. Is it better than the standard polygraph? Yes, but not, as you say, 100% accurate.
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You mean the one grandparent who sorta said something that implied she was at his birth, and then immediately corrected it the next sentence?
And has stubbornly maintained that position ever since, despite that misstatement of hers being continually quoted?
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
to see how obvious it was that the CIAFBIATFDEANSANRODIA hired an AIDS-ridden African immigrant to go to his room under the pretense of being a "maid" and then lure him into the hallway naked...
Clearly, the poor SOB is the victim of entrapment.
Presumption of innocence, anybody?
Anybody?
Beyond that: the guy was going to participate in elections in France, right? So at the very minimum, there is that. Also I don't know anything else about his life and his enemies, and he is/was the head of a powerful organization dealing with tons of money. Just saying.
You can't handle the truth.
As with most lie detector exams, it's usually not so much the results that are telling as the subjects' reactions when you ask them to take it (and let them know it won't be the FBI administering it).
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
It's a posh suite - the bath may have been fairly far from the door, and have a decently soundproof door. We can't assume she would have heard him.
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You do of course realize that DSK was the man most likely to be the next president of France up until this accusation? French politics is not really that clean either. Lookup "clearstream sarkozy" and look at how another party infight turned to corrupt means to taint Sarkozy's image before the last election, which backfired and ended up even boasting his popularity, eliminated the other presidential candidates.
The next presidential election in France is in May 2012 and the socialist party is just about to select their candidate. The timing of this scandal is just "too" convenient. If he is guilty most French people I know say "let him hang", but most also have serious doubts given the political context surrounding the case.
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Unfortunately a bad precedent has already been established with 9/11/01. The black boxes from the two aircraft which crashed into the Twin Towers includes the pilots cabin door activity (open and closing, etc.) and there is nothing to indicate any hijacking ever took place (i.e., only a brief, several second partial open and closing to allow passage of coffee to pilot). Therefore, it probably won't be admissable, given that it doesn't count for 9/11/01. (Truly, America is screwed!)
Yes, as head of the International Monetary Fund, lay the ground weeks in advance for your dastardly and elaborate plot to rape a otherwise unknown hotel chambermaid in New York.
May the Maths Be with you!
You have to know, that the other big thing going on in Europe right now, is how to deal with the issue of Greece's severe debts, problematic economy, and them asking again for money, shortly after they've already 'received' over 100 billion euro's. Not only that, but Portugal, Ireland and Spain are also in trouble.
This is causing a lot of political turmoil, with some even going as far as proposing that Greece be kicked out of the euro-zone, instead of spending more money on them. Now Strauss-Kahn was a leading proponent of giving Greece a second bailout, and he was due for a meeting on this very topic last Sunday with German chancellor Angela Merkel, but instead was pulled out of the plane that would take him to that meeting. No matter how DSK's case pans out, he's already gone from the IMF. Who knows what views on the Greece issue his successor will have? Or what the future of the euro-zone will look like? Will it include Greece defaulting on its debts, (forcedly) abandoning the euro and returning to the drachme, and if that happens and a precedent is set, Portugal, Ireland and/or Spain doing the same? Or if the weaker countries refuse to abandon the euro, maybe the stronger countries doing it instead (already 'threatened' by some politicians in The Netherlands and in Germany)...
And of course conspiracy theories have also been aired, that claim that DSK was framed, either because of this euro-crisis thing, or because he was also the next presidential candidate of the French socialist party and was much less 'America-friendly' than current president Sarkozy.
So all in all, I'd say it's as least as newsworthy as some of the other crap I've seen posted here :)
So true. They should have a TV show about this sort of thing. Instead of focusing on the cops entirely, it could have a whole diverse cast of characters who work together to solve crimes. Oh wait....
The easiest is the simple butthole clench. It alters your blood pressure instantly, which affects the results of the polygraph.
Er, wrong. I remember reading an article in Wired a couple of years ago in which the author tried this trick to no avail. Of course, this is assuming you believe the article.
Yes, and all criminals are logical like Spock. I still lean towards this guy being framed but, as you say, only time will tell
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It is not a murder. Why would rape someone when you have the prettiest women at your knees ? You are OT or stupid ?
I don't think you realise what the difference between rape and consensual sex is, which is worrying.
Hint: if rape was just about relief of immediate sexual tension, you'd just have a wank
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whether or not he "raped" her I don't know. Sexual assault could be as simple as she saw him naked and he made some stupid joke in an embarrassing situation and she thought he was coming onto her. In any case, If she walks away with a large cash settlement I'm pretty sure her life will be better.
1) The charge is attempted rape, he forced her to perform oral sex but didn't have penetrative sex, there's no need for the quotation marks.
2) Being naked and making a joke isn't sexual assault, and wouldn't result in her having to go to a hospital with minor injuries.
3) Why would she get a large cash settlement? He's been arrested on criminal charges, as far as I know the US doesn't have some weird form of sharia law where the guilty party can compensate their victim instead of being punished. If he's found guilty, he'll go to prison even if he gives her ten million euros.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
I agree with you that it doesn't make sense from a purely logical point of view, but I can totally understand why a school would block that site like it was radioactive. The school's head(s) would be thinking about what parents would say, I suppose.
Must suck to be a teacher that relied on this, though. What can you say : "I know he was a paedophile, BUT it's a great site!"?
Yeah, it's just a shame there are absolutely no other educational resources on the internet apart from Sparklebox for teachers to use.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
*sigh*
You can chase as many women as much as you want, if one of them says "no" and you have sex with her, it's still rape.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
DSK is very famous for its relationship with women. He loves sex and women love him. Generally, the women are very satisfied. Why on earth would he run after a maid if she was not make him advances ? In this story, only idiots could believe he is a sexual predator, the plot theory is by far the most probable. It is not the first try to trap him on his sexual weakness, but it is the first time it is not defeated.
I think DSK should sack you as his lawyer, dude.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
1) The charge is attempted rape, he forced her to perform oral sex but didn't have penetrative sex, there's no need for the quotation marks.
but I "like" quotation marks. Epically when I'm repeating something I've heard and cannot confirm myself.
2) Being naked and making a joke isn't sexual assault, and wouldn't result in her having to go to a hospital with minor injuries.
According to all the sexual harassment/equal opportunity courses my place of employment requires all employees to attend every year, sexual assault is any kind of unwanted sexual advance. It can be as simple as an unwanted look that can be interrupted as "He was undressing me with his eyes". As for the injuries, and I'm not saying they're not a result of assault, but they could have resulted from any number of activities. I'd rather wait for the evidence before assuming anyone is guilty. That is what the justice system is based on isn't it?
3) Why would she get a large cash settlement? He's been arrested on criminal charges, as far as I know the US doesn't have some weird form of sharia law where the guilty party can compensate their victim instead of being punished. If he's found guilty, he'll go to prison even if he gives her ten million euros.
Weirder things have happened. And who said anything about "the guilty party can compensate their victim instead of being punished"? I was saying she may be awarded cash. She could also go after the Hotel later on for compensation because they "didn't properly protect her". <= there are those quotation marks again.
what's to say this maid wasn't his call girl
Yes, they were playing an elaborate role playing game, spread over many years, culminating in his eventual arrest on sexual assault charges, humiliation and destruction because he's a masochist.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it