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Apple WWDC: iOS 5, Lion, iCloud
Steve Jobs was on hand today to kick off Apple's WWDC keynote. Lion took the lead, with no surprises except a $29.99 pricetag and a July ship date.
iOS is getting a new "Notification Center"; Twitter is being integrated; he announced a split thumbable keyboard for iPads; wireless syncing; and a native IM system for iOS devices, shipping in the Fall.
iCloud will be free, syncing apps (Mail, Calendar, Contacts and iWork apps) across devices. Photostream is iCloud for pictures. iTunes iCloud will let you re-download your tracks at last, and iTunes Match will let you match your ripped CDs to Apple's copies.
...he introduced the Apple community to Android, Windows Phone 7, Linux, Windows, and OS X Snow Leopard.
"It's a reverse vampire...they....they crave the sun!"
But I will definitely go for Lion at $29. The thing is, how will it be made available to Leopard users? Jobs said it was Mac App Store-only.
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Just go anywhere on the web. Anywhere. Everybody's covering this today, finding more information isn't exactly hard.
I've heard you can burn it to a DVD if you want. It's just a disc image (in the developer preview anyway).
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So for a 25 dollar "insurance" fee I can match all the mp3s that I can find op my harddisk to songs in the itunes cloud and then those (legal) itunes songs will be downloaded to all my devices? That's an offer that I can't refuse.
And won't the music industry go apeshit over this?
It sounds like a rebranding of MobileMe (which was a rebranding of .mac). See it in action by signing up for MobileMe, and then wonder why all your email disappeared.
Wifi won't bypass ISP caps. It will only bypass cellular caps.
Granted it gives you 2 buckets to overflow instead of just one.
Buying SL for the sake of getting Lion is spending money for the sake of it. No his concern is genuine. I thought this too as I watched the photo slideshow... There must be a way of burning it or acquiring it through a non internet distributed channel.
Once again iTunes is passing off fundamentally flawed technology as a good thing, and the press is eating it up.
Where does it say you must use the Match service to use the iCloud service? You're making a lot of assumptions from very little information.
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For Snow Leopard, the $30 upgrade disks were good for up to 5 systems, if I remember. Probably similar for Lion.
I think that the idea is that users don't interact with files and the file system. They interact with songs through the iTunes interface. I know there are a million and one reasons to do clever things with the file system organization for music, but I think that 99% of users don't really care about how their songs are laid out on the FS. They think of them as songs, not files.
I'm sure they'd be happy to do it for you at the Apple Store. You're not supposed to be servicing the hard drive in the first place as I understand it.
It has already been reported that the App Store is an preferred option for upgrading, but I have no doubt you will be able to purchase it as well. Without a physical media option, it would be difficult to do system work (repairs, installs, etc) when you lack an internet connection.
Ref: http://osxdaily.com/2011/05/04/mac-os-x-10-7-lion-to-be-distributed-through-mac-app-store/
They already ship the Macbook Air installer on a thumb drive. I see no reason why that would change for users with caps on their internet plan, or for people who simply don't want to download it.
Putting very mildly indeed, iTunes Match is an important announcement.
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Steve himself pointed out that MobileMe was a misstep. As someone who has cobbled together a cable-based home iTunes network, Gmail (via both a desktop/laptop web browser but also through iPhone's Mail app for notifications, etc.), Flickr & iPhoto, AppleTVs, a 60GB iPod, my wife's iPod Touch, Things for to do lists, etc., etc., etc., the only thing that is not encouraging to me about this is the thought of redoing everything again. But if Apple is actually putting some energy into this (and from the data center pictures, it looks like they are), it's might be too tempting to refuse.
And iTunes Match? Does anyone else find it baffling how they are getting away with this? I mean, for $25 I get legal versions of every single—ahem, questionably procured, shall we say— tracks in my gigantic iTunes library? Did the record companies read the fine print on this? I mean, as a voracious music consumer, I'm NOT complaining... we've all known for a long time that things were going to have to change in regard to digital media and copyright. And say what you will about them, I could see Apple being the company to make it happen. But really... how did they get away with this?
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We also expected the over the network OS upgrades, something I think will really separate Mac Os and iOS hardware form the MS crowd. Lack of installation media is a concern for some, but I put all my OS on HD partitions and install from the harddisk anyway. Haven't install from a DVD in years. Haven't bought a application DVD in years.
The dig about it just working is really apropos. I tried to use Amazon music service thingy. Bought the music, put it on the web, could not download it to my computer afterwards. So I set up Amazon to download to my computer, thinking I would upload back to Amazon. Bought the lady gaga for $1, never got it to download properly, Amazon will not aswer my requests to download it again. I think this is called theft. Really wondering if I am going to do business with them when they won't give me my purchases.
One thing I am concerned about is the transition from Mobileme to iCloud. They are not making it cheaper, 5gb for $20 is not better than the current deal. They are just giving away inexpensive services for free, just like they did with itools. Most people are not going to upload that many pictures in 30 days, and well over a decade of mail is not taking more than a few gb of space.
The versioning on iOS is going be a huge thing, since the iOS 'filesystem' is not versionable with any current tools. OTOH, semms iworks is stil imcompatable between Mac OS and iOS so I would have liked to see some work done on that front.
Apple is competing hard against Google and RIM, which is good, but they seem to have lost their way on some of the applications. This happened in the late 80's when they were trying to cut prices to compete with the PC. The software was spun off the claris and a lot of good applications were lost.
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They did. Delta updates in App Store. All the devs in the room applauded, for precisely the reason you mentioned.
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Apple always does it last.
Then they do it best.
That's the MO that they have been repeating for years.
You just caught on?
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From the Apple iCloud web page, up shortly after the WWDC keynote finished:
Italics/Bold sentence above emphasized by me.
If your music is already in the Itunes store, the match service will let you avoid having to upload it, and you might be able to upgrade the quality. If it's not in the itunes store, you can still upload it to the service, and have your non-mainstream stuff available to you in the same way, but you won't get the upgraded bitrate that a matched song might get you. I know I have a bunch of old, comparatively low-bitrate, mp3's in my collection... an upgrade of even half of them to 256kbps for the cost of a few minutes scanning my library and $25/yr doesn't sound like an unreasonable price when you factor in the time required to re-rip a couple hundred CDs at a higher bitrate.
I thought the same thing (currently running linux, but have 10.5 on the "old" drive).
Unfortunately the requirements are that you will have to install snow leopard to be able to use the app store to upgrade to lion. See step 2 below.
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Sucks really.
1) We get to claim 30% of your revenue
... and we paid out 2.5 billion dollars so far to developers. Also just out: The Apple app store (the one where you can buy apps for Macs only) is the _largest_ seller of PC software! Beating Walmart, Best Buy and anyone else. And can you tell me any other store that lets developers keep 70% of the revenue.
It's an app that you get from the app store. You copy /Applications/Install Mac OS X.app to your media of choice. This is how it has worked since the first developer preview like 5 months ago.
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With $2.5 Billion in sales of independent software in the last year...thats how.
I know several of developers that HATE the idea of what the iStore is...and at the same time, are making far more money using it, selling their products far cheaper, than they ever did before.
You can either be religious about all of this, or you can be pragmatic.
If you were selling anywhere else, you'd have to deal with CC processing, you'd have to deal with boxed products. You'd have to deal with a shitload of other hassles...in this regard, the only hassle you have to do is to mind read what Steve Jobs is planning on doing next and for most developers, this isn't a problem.
Even a friend that just has a product kicked out recently...said he made enough before it was kicked out...and it isn't like his code isn't reusable. Will fix the problems and resubmit.
And if this is too much of a problem, they can always go program for Android.
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Really, though all these things are good, but Apple is going for the same thing IBM and Microsoft tried in the 80s and 90s by locking users into a static platform. There's better bells and whistles now, but when Facetime can't connect with anything other than an iOS or OS X device, you'll have to say forget it and go with something more cross platform like Google Voice. Many of the new features advertised already exist in one form or another and the ones that are unique are more 'Huh. Interesting, but not enough to make my buy one'.
The Mac App Store just downloads .dmg's last I remember (or something similar). See the whole fiasco with trying to ugprade Xcode through the store - it makes you redownload the whole disk image.
The rules for the Mac App Store are quite easy and quite clear. When you purchase an app, you can install it in one of three ways, your choice:
1. Install on any number of Macs that are under your control, for private use only.
2. Install on _one_ Mac that is used by any number of users, for commercial use.
3. Install on any number of Macs that are used by a single user only, for commercial use.
So if you have 10 Macs shared by 20 users in your company, you buy 10 copies, one for each Mac. And if you have another ten users, each owning two Macs exclusively, that is another ten copies for each of those ten users.
Surely "app-store only" will not apply to corporate deployments? Where I work, we only apply the updates they tell us to apply, after they test them with our corporate apps etc.
How about making it so I don't have re-download 3+GB every time a minor dot-release of Xcode is released?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html - look for 'Efficient app updates'
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Purchase Snow Leopard $30.
Purchase Lion $30.
Total $60.
Purchase Windows 7 for about $200+
Yep. Apple is expensive and double dipping. You only have $120+ more in your pockets now than if you went with a Windows upgrade. Maybe more if you upgraded to Vista and then to 7.
what I'm excited about in the new version is searching of message bodies, not just headers. They presented it in the context of the ipad mail app, but hopefully it will be present in the online version as well.
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http://tech.slashdot.org/story/08/04/24/1334234/Patch-the-Linux-Kernel-Without-Reboots - Apr 2008
When you install Windows 7 or a new Linux kernel, do you have to restart? Why? OS X Lion don't require that.
We haven't "had" to reboot linux for more than 3 years now, where have you been?
But I think what you say about Lion is incorrect. "Mac OS X Lion's new Resume feature lets users get back to where they left off after a shutdown or restart" - CNet
That is significant, but it's not the same as not having to rebooting. If you didn't reboot, then it's just sleep/hybernate, and Windows has done that for many years. So, where are you getting that info that it never has to reboot, even with new kernel? If you've run Snow Leopard, you will be familiar with restarting after updates, desktop AND server (I run both, btw, and I have a server asking for reboot right now, and it's not even a kernel update). Linux usually never needs a restart unless you specifically update the kernel. But even then, you don't have to. It will continue to run on the previous kernel until you decide to restart. With other tools like KSplice, we don't have to ever reboot. But, I highly doubt you can do all updates, including kernel, without restarting Lion.
The same goes for iPhone/iPad. If it updates the kernel, you're going to have to reboot the device. But, maybe they are changing this, just wanna know where you read it?
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As for #4, I believe it is "4. Pay the record companies a boat load of cash." which is all they really want. can you blame them?
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How does an IM system becomes "native", and what would it be?
On one hand, I hope that - like iChat - it will support the One True Protocol (namely, XMPP).
On the other hand, what with FaceTime being a new thing entirely (instead of taking one of the existing open ones, such as Google's video chat XMPP extensions), and locked down tight so far despite all the promises, I have a bad feeling about this...
Aside from oversimplifying (which is me being nice about calling you a liar) at steps 1 and 3, you're totally telling the truth.
They addressed this already:
2:55PM If any songs don't match they'll be uploaded for you. Anything that's matched is upgraded to 256Kbps AAC, without DRM.
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If iTunes introduced the concept of albums and playlists would that address your need?
No, once you've signed up you can download the DRM-free 256 kbps AAC copies to your computer. However, when you stop paying you can no longer download the files. You are also able to download anything you have in your computer's library that is also in the iTunes store directly from Apple to your iPhone. Now I don't know about you but my iPhone has less total storage than the size of my music collection. In fact, my music collection at home (mostly MP3s) is several times larger than the total storage on my phone. However, I suspect a very high percentage of this music is available from iTunes which would mean that if I'm at a friend's place, I have an iTunes Match subscription and I want to listen to a song I haven't synced to my phone I can just fetch it from Apple rather than go home and sync it from my computer (or scp it to my friend's computer from my home network which is also a bit of a hassle and not always an option, especially if I'm not actually at a friend's place but rather in at a bbq in a park or somewhere else where I can't use a computer).
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I mean, for $25 I get legal versions of every singleâ"ahem, questionably procured, shall we sayâ" tracks in my gigantic iTunes library? Did the record companies read the fine print on this?
Lala had this feature. They called it "iTunes Uploader" or something along those lines. Of course, it didn't actually upload your iTunes library; it matched your rips with the rips Lala had in their library.
And yes, the record labels (the big ones along with a wide selection of indies) agreed to this with Lala. When Apple bought Lala, it wasn't immediately clear that the deals that Lala had made with the labels would apply to the sale, but clearly Apple has worked it out to the labels' satisfaction.
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I can't believe no one else mentioned the best new feature of Lion:
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You can now resize a window from any side or corner.
No, this is an in-place upgrade. No rebooting required.
As such, you won't actually have to burn anything.
Maybe they'll distribute it through iTunes. Because, you know, why not?
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I am confused by you. Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to be offensive, but I am confused by why you would do this. iTunes (indeed, any decent media management system) has metadata associated with music files. The application knows what album the song is from, and will even happily manage multiple copies of the same song with different meta data. Why do you care how the underlying filesystem organizes the music? Metadata also keeps track of stuff like genre, artist, even composer when composer is different than artist. Plus you can change the meta data trivially if you chose to do so. Got a copy of, say, the Dixie Chicks and classified it as country? Decided that on second thought it's more rock? Just change the genre in the metadata, no need to move everything around. Playlists are of course the final piece of the puzzle. Want to make a "beach mix"? Just create a playlist and add the songs you want from multiple albums.
I hesitate to say you're doing it wrong, as your system obviously works for you, but there are really far more effective ways to handle what you want than compulsively organizing files and directories. Also note that while iTunes can and does do everything I mention, it's hardly the only program that can, and they use an open standard for the meta data. So if you get everything setup the way you like it in iTunes and then decide to switch to Windows Media Player, VLC, or Amarok, all your metadata goes too. I'm not sure, but I think they can read each other's playlists too.
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Wow, Apple is seriously behind the curve, as usual. Google and others have been offering "it just works" cloud-syncing for years now.
And we'll have to see whether their iCould service is even usable MobileMe really sucked (I used to subscribe to it and canceled after a few years).
Simply: Wow.
What color is the fucking sky on your world? How long do you measure forever? Five Years? How about twenty? Thirty? If Apple in 50 years even resembles Apple today, I'll eat my fucking flying car. Nevermind actually keeping this service running forever.
I won't even go into "persistent and secure" or "all present and future devices". You apparently don't read the news enough to realize that both of those statements aren't even possible, let alone likely.
Any song you buy on iTunes is automatically available to download on your device.
Plus if you pay the 25 bucks a year fee,
any song you obtained elsewhere (ripped from CD, bought from amazon, bought from allofmp3, pirated, whatever) that can be matched to a song on iTunes, you get the iTunes copy to download to your device.
And if the song you have cant be matched to an iTunes song (e.g. songs from artists not willing to sign up to iTunes, songs from your mates band, that leaked copy of the new album that's not in stores yet etc) it gets uploaded to the cloud and can be downloaded to your device.
You can already do that you know.
Do in Terminal: defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
Then just share a disk or directory over AFP and point your TimeMachine to it.
And Lion will have Mac OS X Server built-in so you can just set up a share, enable it as a TimeMachine target and it will show up automatically.
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On Apple's web pages, the 10.7 ("Lion") version seems no longer to be referred to as "Mac OS X".
Instead, it's called just "OS X" or "OS X Lion" in nearly all occurences.
This might be insignificant, but then again... remember when "Apple Computer, Inc." relabeled itself into just "Apple, Inc."?