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LulzSec Offers to Take Revenge On Sega Hackers

An anonymous reader writes "Sega Corp joins the ranks of video game companies to be hacked in recent time with one small twist, it seems LulzSec was not behind this one. They reached to Sega's official twitter account and offered to destroy the hackers that attacked them. From the article: 'In its offer to assist Sega, the Tweet from Lulz hinted that its leaders might count themselves among a small but highly loyal group of gamers who still play on the aging Dreamcast console. "Sega - contact us," Lulz said in its Tweet to the video game developer. "We want to help you destroy the hackers that attacked you. We love the Dreamcast, these people are going down."'"

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  1. Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I the only person who thinks that LulzSec is way out of line? It appalls me how much press coverage they get, and for what, exactly? Giving a lot of hard-working people a hell of a lot more grief than they deserve? LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

    They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by gilesjuk · · Score: 2

      It could end up that large organisations will have to pay lots of money to hire these sort of people and they will be only available to the highest bidder.

    2. Re:Am I the only one? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such.

      Ah yes; Because "Anonymous" says it, it must be true.

      They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

      They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.

      Maybe, five years ago, because they released other people's data, I could be persuaded to agree with you. Now, we have the situation where most cracking is taking place in private. If LulzSec is taking advantage of a breach for the "Lulz" then someone else has already done the same for money, profit and crime. Clearly the hacker crackdown and all the associated arrests of people for public hacking have been counter-productive. Without people like Lulz, we would never really see how bad the security is in the various big companies. Sure, if they get caught they deserve a slap on the wrist, mostly for the stupdity of getting caught. The people who should be punished are the people running the companies they hack (a bit) and the people providing security and operating systems to those people (lots). I really don't see the point in punishing people just because they make a public noise about what they did.

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    3. Re:Am I the only one? by Palmsie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I actually think just the opposite. The origins of the hacker spirit have long been washed away. Lulz is exposing a lot of things people don't like to hear - that all you thought was secure was in fact not at all (SQL injections anyone?). This is especially important as end-user services move to the cloud. Innovation is a result of people like Lulz forcing otherwise complacent experts to upgrade their infrastructure. We need more people like them imho. If the people who worked for these companies were so hard working Lulz wouldn't be breaking into them on an almost daily basis. I'm glad they don't have a purpose, they don't need one either. Some men just want to watch the world burn (I couldn't resist).

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    4. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

      Back in the day, this sort of random discrimination and griefing the the lulz was exactly what Anonymous did, then it turned into some crusade for political causes. LulzSec is more like the Anonymous of yesterday than the Anonymous of today is.

    5. Re:Am I the only one? by DrBoumBoum · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Am I the only one to find them funny? I mean they're a change from Anonymous and their oh-so-serious "we don't forget, expect us" bullshit. Well I can't help but giggle at their seemingly random, no-head-and-tail string of attacks. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and do appear quite good at what they're doing.

      They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.

      Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.

    6. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw

      You mean the same "banker" friends of Obama (Soros, Geitner et al)? How is that "hope and change" working for you? I've seen changes, but no hope. And dude, Cheney hasn't been in office over two years, get a new horse to ride.

    7. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well I can't help but giggle at their seemingly random, no-head-and-tail string of attacks.

      You have a very low threshold for comedy. If you ever watch Blackadder, make sure you were a corset.

    8. Re:Am I the only one? by westlake · · Score: 2

      Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.

      No one is making any fine distinctions anymore between white hat and black hat. People don't care about the hacker's causes. They don't care if he is out for a laugh or going for the gold.

      What they do care about is that he is getting in their way.

    9. Re:Am I the only one? by AngryDeuce · · Score: 2

      I think Anonymous and Lulzsec are going to be our shock troops in the inevitable cyber war that will soon be breaking out. Right now they are pissing a lot of people off, but at the end of the day, the only reason they are effective at what they do is because of laziness, greed, and ignorance when it comes to internet security. It's shocking to me how many of these huge billion dollar companies are doing stupid crap like storing customer information in plaintext files. I mean, that's just ridiculous, and honestly, I'd rather people looking for lulz get a hold of that data than some scumbag Eastern European Identity Thief that is going to take out credit cards in my name and all sorts of other garbage.

    10. Re:Am I the only one? by AngryDeuce · · Score: 2

      Yeah, those same friends, too. Money has been perverting our political process since the origin of this country, and until we find a way to divorce the power the super wealthy people (and corporations that are now legally people thanks to the abomination that was the Citizens United ruling) our government will NEVER represent the will of the people.

      I really don't care which side of the aisle you're on, if you're taking money from lobbyists, you're taking bribes.

    11. Re:Am I the only one? by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Soros? Really? The only people who complain about him are the out-to-lunch right-wing conspiracy theorists regurgitating what they heard last week on Rush Limbaugh.

      You want change? How about credit card companies no longer being allowed to charge outrageous fees to small business retailers, or change due dates with minimal notice and crank up interest rates when you miss them? How about increased regulation on derivatives and a bureau dedicated to protecting consumers from abusive lenders -- of course, your boys in red are doing absolutely everything they can to kill that one in the cradle.

      And by the way, since when is two years so long that we should forget the immeasurable harm Cheney and Bush and the rest of those scumbags did? Hell, you fuckers were saying "it's in the past, forget about it" three months after Obama's inauguration, while simultaneously trying to blame the recession on Clinton. I'll tell you what, I'll forgive Bush and crew once we're done paying the price of his fuckups. So maybe in thirty years. If we're really lucky.

    12. Re:Am I the only one? by Dan541 · · Score: 2

      At least LulzSec admit to doing things for their own gain.

      Anonymous on the other hand like to kid themselves into thinking they have a valid cause; it's seriously sad.
      LulzSec are at least honest about why they do things.

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  2. I think LulzSec trolling. by MimeticLie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So they attacked Bethesda, EVE, League of Legends, Minecraft, and Nintendo, but when someone attacks Sega they're all up in arms? I'm not buying it.

    I think they're just trolling the media to keep their name in the headlines. And they succeeded (really, Reuters? don't you have wars you could be reporting on?).

  3. Well... by Sinthet · · Score: 2

    The Dreamcast was (IS!!) a pretty fucking awesome system. Though the Sega of today isn't nearly as awesome as the Sega of yesteryear.

    1. Re:Well... by nomadic · · Score: 2

      No no no. The Dreamcast wasn't part of the GC/xbox/PS2 generation, it came out almost 2 years before the PS2 and almost 4 years before the GC. It was miles ahead of anything at the time.

  4. Priorities.. by Gi0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dont they have a kinda bigger problem right now? http://lulzsecexposed.blogspot.com/

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    1. Re:Priorities.. by hedwards · · Score: 2

      No, if you look at the logs, it's clear that the people are either not really part of lulzsecurity or are so low level that it's tantamount to hitting a hired goon when you were after the godfather.

      It sounds like they were related, albeit at a low level and easily replaceable. That being said, it does appear that somebody took offense to the apparent leaked dox.

      Additionally, it looks like they screwed up some of the previous doxes and had to retract them. Not saying that it means that it's fake or fraudulent, but it does tend to lend some lack of credibility to the site. Although, it looks like an honest mistake rather than a malicious smearing of somebody that's uninvolved.

  5. Re:stop pumping these people up by quantaman · · Score: 2

    They're not necessarily doing a disservice.

    Right now the only other way that security issues come to the attention of the media is through public hostile hacks, and who knows how many of those go unreported. LulzSec is bringing a lot more attention to the problem of security, without many of the costs of more hostile hacks, on the whole I think that's a good thing.

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  6. 'Wars journalists could be reporting on' by QuasiSteve · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is pretty off-topic, but in reference to your statement:

    Really, Reuters? Don't you have wars you could be reporting on?

    I can't help but wonder the same thing. But not really related to the latest lulzseclulz in any way - I mean war reporting in general.

    I'm sure most of the people here who were semi-world conscious at the time can remember Christiane Amanpour reporting from Iraq and Bosnia, but also many other war reporters in those conflicts and many before them, often risking their own lives to bring reports from the battlefield, human interest stories from both sides, etc.

    But now, I keep hearing every talking head in news reports saying that 'allegedly' this-and-that happened - while a video off of youtube or something plays in the background - but that these are unconfirmed reports because they have no journalists in those countries because journalists aren't allowed into them(!)

    Have the news agencies lost their proverbial backbone, or have they just gotten lazy and think the youtube videos from either side in these conflicts are 'good enough'?

    1. Re:'Wars journalists could be reporting on' by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      The first thing regimes like Syria do is round up the foreign journalists and either lock them up in their hotel rooms or show them the door. All those Western journalists reporting on Iraq or Afghanistan were there at the invitation, or at least the sufferance, of Western troops. Foreign journalists in places like Syria and Iran are on very short leashes at the best of times, and the minute there is the least sign of unrest they are either locked in their hotels or shown the door.

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  7. Re:A question out of curiosity. by DrBoumBoum · · Score: 2

    Very probably, I imagine they would go something like "Well done old sport" and deal with it.

  8. Not going to happen by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Informative

    If LulzSec went after the culprit on their own, then it's only their necks in the noose if they get caught (revenge or no, they're still committing a crime). But if Sega contacts them, then Sega becomes complicit, and their lawyers will probably have a thing or two to say about that.

  9. Re:The most POPULAR Slashdot Topic of 2011 by Fnord666 · · Score: 2

    So uhm, Slashdot, when is LulzSec getting it's own icon? Seems to be the top favorite for news these days.

    Maybe the editors figure that if LulzSec wants one, they'll just add it themselves..

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  10. Sick and tired of this, both in USA and my country by vgerclover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it tiresome how people think that if you criticize one person, you must love its opponent. Or how somehow attacking one opponent somehow exonerates the other one. If that's your only defense (not talking necessarily about you, although I do find the Republicans that can be seen from abroad disgusting), them being only good because the other guys did worse, you should rethink why you supported them on the first place.

  11. The rise of the cyber assassins. by lexsird · · Score: 2

    I seriously doubt they will hire groups like this, but I do think they will hire cyber assassins. Follow this thinking. Here you are a multi-million dollar company and you will lose millions from their attacks. Feature like Sony, being attacked for a straight month. Governments appear too slow or retarded to be of assistance.

    So enter the cyber assassin, a lone wolf who can hunt them down, probably infiltrate their ranks, counter hack them, find them and assassinate them. Frankly I am shocked it hasn't happened already, a viral video of one of them being snuffed, or something to that effect to send a major chilling effect to the hacker community. They would probably assassinate plenty of script kiddies, just to set the proper example.

    I would look for these types to come from Russia, they certainly have the skills to do the tracking, and as far as ruthless, I think they have that covered. They are a hungry lot there in Russia, organized crime is serious business there. I think they have all the ingredients to cook something like this up. But that is just speculation on where they might start from on my behalf.

    Factor this, with as ineffective as the world's governments seem to be at dealing with this, how long will it take for these hacker groups to fuck with the wrong people? They don't fuck around with little targets either, it seems the people they fuck with have deep enough pockets to easily finance a project like that. It doesn't help with their "hahaha fuck you" attitude either. Imagine being burned by them and it cost you millions, and there they are, out there mocking you? Welcome to becoming someone life hobby to find you and kill you, you silly hackers.

    I am just saying this needs nipped in the bud before it escalates into something horrifying. There world seems to be full of dumb kids that have no idea about consequences for one's actions. These people need protected from their own stupidity. A trip to Gitmo is infinitely more preferable than the Russian mob skinning and salting you in a snuff film for some pissed off CEO's listening and dancing pleasure.

    Stack crap like that on top of the entertainment business's interests, rioters who use social networks to organize, wikileaks, flash robbers, etc, etc, and world governments are going clamp the fuck down hard on the Internet as we know it. Hackers will beat their security measures of course, then it will really escalate. Kiss any online privacy goodbye then. Welcome to high tech intrusive measures to monitor us even more.

    In the mean time, I wouldn't want to be these hackers. It may sound cool, and get good press, but there is the devil to pay in the end.

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  12. Stop Giving Censors Amunition. by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

    I think that's a good thing.

    Many people think that LulzSec is has been infiltrated by the government to further a political agenda. Even if they haven't been, they are playing right into the hands of those who wish to eradicate anonymity from the Internet, and impose harsh censorship.

    Just after I watched an online video wherein Hillary Clinton and others discussed the importance of forming America's Cyber Security Plan with International cooperation in mind I talked to my friends about this; Most all of them said, "What? Why do we need an Internet Police, this is just more big government getting into things they don't understand. Sure, make some rules for government systems, set some guidelines for security, and make sure to audit security practices of banks, but stay out of the Internet as a whole."

    After LulzSec began attacking servers of some of my friends Minecraft and League of Legends games along with other game companies, and releasing thousands of email addresses for porn surfers my friend's attitudes have mostly changed.

    Now when asked if we should have harsher punishments for "hacking" (read: cracking), government mandated security practices, or if penetration tools should be made illegal and require a license to own my friends have changed their mind. When asked they say, "I think this is a good thing."

    Step back a moment and look at the big picture. Anonymous cracks a few servers and mostly does a weak DDoS (read: not even a RDDoS) against websites perceived to be pro censorship (DDoS doesn't have the same effect as releasing thousands of passwords, etc). If you are a pro censorship government body, you may rally your forces and point at the weakness of the systems and say to others in places of power: "You could be Next!" to get them on board with your Cyber Security plans.

    However, we're forgetting the common man. How do we get them on board with this Cyber Security agenda? And then LulzSec is formed Possibly with the help of Anonymous members that were turned by the FBI or NSA? Who knows. I just find it a little too convenient that "doing it for the lulz" equates to placing the "dangers of hackers" in the face of the common man.

    A good thing? I think not.

  13. Re:1337 Vaginas by svanheulen · · Score: 2

    I love it when people respond like this. Apparently them being good at something, that you're not, means they have no life? Everyone has their own talents and just because something would be time consuming for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.