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More Users Are Shunning Facebook

Hugh Pickens writes "Blake Snow writes that evidence suggests that a small but increasing number of users — at least in North America, where Facebook use is especially saturated — may be shunning the site with Facebook losing nearly 6 million users, falling from 155.2 million at the start of May to 149.4 million at the end of the month, the first time the US has lost users in the past year. Some users complain they're spending so much time on Facebook that they're short-changing the rest of their lives. 'I figured out that I wouldn't look back as an old man and wish I had spent more time on Facebook,' says David Cole, an IT manager from Boston, adding that he believes the popular social-networking site is a useful tool, but not a replacement for what he calls 'realbook' experiences. Kip Krieger, a college student from Virginia, says Facebook has become predictable. 'It's really gotten to a point where I know pretty much what my friends are going to post. They usually just write the same thing over and over again, and I am getting sick of that.' Still there are a lot more satisfied customers of Facebook than disgruntled ones, so are Facebook shunners a tiny minority or part of a growing trend? 'Having that connection with others is a very powerful thing,' says Toby Bushman who felt so much pressure that she decided to rejoin Facebook, and is glad she did. 'It makes me feel like I'm a part of something bigger and more grand than just my life as a stay-at-home mother.'"

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  1. Facebook is a good tool by cgeys · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, what are they expecting? That their friends are there to entertain them 24/7? I don't expect MSN Messenger to entertain me all the time either, why would I expect Facebook to do so. It's a communication tool. I've found it really useful, especially since I'm living in different sides of the world every half a year and having friends, wife and a family in both. But I don't expect it to stop hunger or give world peace.

    1. Re:Facebook is a good tool by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope your wives and families don't read /.

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    2. Re:Facebook is a good tool by SMoynihan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. One doesn't blame the mail service because one has sent out invites for spammers to send spam letters.

      Facebook enables you to keep in touch with those you want to keep in touch with. If you are finding that those you friend send more trash than value, there is a simple answer:

      Don’t friend them.

      Seriously, if you don't want to spend time listening to drivel - you would avoid the drivelers - not cut off your ears (well, I hope not).

      Caveat emptor: If you end up with no friends, it is likely a statement on your standards, or your choice of acquaintances.

    3. Re:Facebook is a good tool by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For someone like you Facebook would be a boon, but you're the exception. Me, I really have no use for it. I have an "unlimited" cell phone plan (don't pay for minutes, $50 per month flat fee for calls, long distance, roaming, text, internet, and email) and can call, text, or email anybody I know for free.

      I think it's a fad, like Hula hoops, pet rocks, mood rings, and... um, what's the name of that social networking site everybody was on a few years ago? I've forgotten. Chances are in five years everybody will have forgotten Facebook as well.

    4. Re:Facebook is a good tool by Xest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well I don't think TFA is even true, this story has popped up elsewhere over the last few days, Slashdot is a bit late getting to it. Facebook themselves and another 3rd party have both said these numbers are bunk, and I think they're probably right.

      The same study suggests 1.5million Canadians also quit in a single month, that's 5% of Canada's entire population quitting Facebook in May. Now, to me that seems pretty odd, why so many, why May? For this to be realistic there'd almost certainly have to have been some good reason why so many chose that specific month to all leave together but I'm not aware of any event that would've caused such a mass exodus.

      I think Facebook might well be in slight decline in early adopting countries, but to the degree, with the numbers listed in TFA? Seems pretty unlikely, the numbers are just far too large for so many people to coincidentally all just pick one month to leave.

      The original articles on it suggested it was about privacy, but perhaps more realistically people haven't actually quit because of privacy, but have in fact boosted their privacy settings causing problems for whatever arbitrary method was used to measure these user counts.

      I couldn't really care what happens to Facebook personally, but I'm sick of seeing this story because frankly, it seems to almost certainly be completely and utterly full of shit- a classic attention whoring attempt using sensationalist tosh.

    5. Re:Facebook is a good tool by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The key is to know what Facebook is good for, and what it is not. As a gaming platform, it's awful - and yet people gladly surrender not only their time but their marketable data and often real money to play idiotic, plotless dreck like Mafia Wars and Farmville.

      On the other hand, it's great for quickly disseminating news, vacation photos, etc. that I'd like to share with friends and family (and NO others) all at once, and conversely, find out when friends and family have important news --- someone has graduated, someone is in the hospital, someone got abducted by aliens and is now Elvis' love slave on Europa...

      I don't even mind using it as a discussion forum occasionally, although it's ill-suited for that (no way to search past discussions, no threaded replies, etc.) Sometimes a friend will feel strongly enough about some item in the news that he or she will post a rant, and it's interesting to see the various responses from the friends of that friend. I've also been able to crowdsource when I needed ideas quickly to solve a problem.

      On the other other hand, hanging on Facebook 24/7 and announcing every time you fart or move from one room to another or what you just ate... give it a rest, guys. Fortunately not many of my friends are that wrapped up in FB or themselves that they need to do so, just a couple of colleagues from work.

      And as far as security, you just have to be aware of the flaws and don't do anything that could make you the victim of identity theft (or get you fired). Don't post your home address or phone number; in that spot I tell people to message me privately if they need that and do not have it. Don't announce when you are going to leave the house empty for two weeks at a time. Don't brag about doing something illegal, or against company policy, or whatever. And for the love of all that is binary, don't give stupid apps permission to access your private data, or answer intrusive questions about yourself just because some stupid app wants you to.

    6. Re:Facebook is a good tool by phoenixwade · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does having wives in different countries qualify as Bigamy?

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    7. Re:Facebook is a good tool by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know a LOT of people that have quit facebook... quit as in changed to only looking at it for a few minutes once a week.

      Why? because FB has made it an annoying piece of crap. you cant block all stupid game requests by default. now they allow fricking apps to post to your wall, and they stop showing you people that you have not commented on any of their stuff in the past 30 days.

      Facebook utterly sucks compared to a year ago.. It's fricking turning into MySpace.

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    8. Re:Facebook is a good tool by rwa2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Word... I got sucked in during the early days when there wasn't really much to do other than play Mafia Wars (I blame my wife, it was one of the few games she's ever gotten into). Was primarily interested in figuring out the game mechanic, as well as marveling at their psychological hacking techniques (pure genius... if only someone would apply this type of random reward & leveling system to education, we could work wonders, or churn out our own suicide bombers, or at least do something amazing). Anyway, after playing through some of our cultural heritage "campaigns" (Moscow and Bangkok), got stuck on some glitch and took that opportunity to quit cold turkey and never looked back.

      But then a lot of my childhood friends started popping up, and now that a lot of these "too cool for facebook" people are finally leaving, it's actually becoming kind of nice again.

    9. Re:Facebook is a good tool by obarthelemy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's also the question of what Facebook counts as a user. I've got a bare page there, just so that friends of friends can track me. Never posted anything, barely go to visit friends' pages once a month when I'm bored, and when I get the facebook "please come baaaack" email.

      I find my life not *that* interesting that I want to make a "book" out of it. And the interesting parts, are, mostly, too private to entrust to facebook. The same seems to be true about my friends' lives, except they do post, and ave no qualms about private stuff, mostly.

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    10. Re:Facebook is a good tool by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I don't know is how these numbers are measured. These numbers don't come from FB but third parties and rely on things like "unique visitors" and ad traffic. Depending on the methodology, the measurements can be subject to external factors. Anything that relies on ads is subject to ad blocking. Counting on visitors might be skewed if they are counting MAC addresses, IP addresses etc. For example the drop in May in Canada can be attributed to university students going home after the school year and everyone using the family computer instead of their own.

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    11. Re:Facebook is a good tool by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It always strikes me that Facebook is like some overblown school reunion. People whom you would never ordinarily consider contacting are drawn into the endless feedback loop of a social networking site that uses emotional blackmail to keep you there. If you want to quit, you have to run the gauntlet of Facebook's messages claiming that you will "lose" all your "friends" if you go, and what will you do then...

      Not for me. I was born into a world that had no internet, and although it is now part of my headspace (FWIW), I am happy to keep real friends at the end of an email, phone call or a knock on the door.

    12. Re:Facebook is a good tool by causality · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You actually captured it right there, the crux of the issue, the true appeal of Facebook:

      Facebook on the other hand lets you do that without getting too personal or intimate.

      Those things so many people are afraid of? Not because they are legitimately feared, but because most of them come from broken homes and a divorce culture and have some deep-seated trust issues and insecurities? Programming, in other words. You see this as a feature?

      We could collectively face our fears and learn how to interact with people on personal and intimate levels. What we'd discover is that dealing with others as actual human beings is far more satisfying, far less distant and hollow. Doing this requires being vulnerable and having good judgment, two things that scare so many.

      Or we can just make all human interaction as indirect and superficial as possible so nothing ever improves. What we'd discover is that we are so busy and have so much to keep up with yet actual acceptance and real understanding is so hard to find. Does that sound familiar? Doing this requires being shallow and mindlessly leaping on the current bandwagon because that's what everybody else is doing, nice and impersonal, focus on the crowd.

      You get to decide this on the individual level. So it's truly your call. Though, if people become any more alienated from one another, we may as well start addressing them with numbers instead of names. Who else can see this as a problem?

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    13. Re:Facebook is a good tool by jdray · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's probably a sign that Facebook is becoming mature, hitting their initial peak and losing a few users who didn't really understand it or need it in the first place. They'll probably lose quite a few users in the near future, settling back to a core set of users, though still over 100 million. If they provide useful functionality for people, they'll grow at a more reasonable rate and continue to mature. If they panic in the face of losing users and pull some BS maneuver and start blasting out spam, they'll die on the vine.

      Are there any studies around the rise and fall of AOL and MySpace? Some enterprising college student should put that together.

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    14. Re:Facebook is a good tool by Omestes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don’t friend them.

      You've never ran into the "friend of a friend guilt" trip, I see.

      I have many friends on Facebook from back when I was a punk kid. A good portion of them grew up into decent adults, but a proportion of them are developmentally atrophied at 16-21. I have no problem being friends with the ones that grew up, but try to avoid the other group like the plague. Sadly many of the latter group have finally discovered computers and smart phones.

      Now every time I go to a party or generally hang out with my old friends I get to spend an hour of people chastising me for not being friends with so-and-so (who happens to be in their mid-30s hanging out with 18 year old kids in back alleys doing drugs). I've had five people all gang up on me, trying to convince me of the merits of "friending" people who'd I rather never think of again. It gets worse when these people show up places, since then I have to listen to them guilt trip me as well.

      If often comes to the point where I might as well "friend" them, since it saves me hassle and stress in the long run. I suppose it doesn't matter, since I only actually check Facebook once a month or so (if even) when I have absolutely nothing better to do. Its not like my feed is full of any important information or communications to begin with, just minor burbles and desperate pleas for attention.

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    15. Re:Facebook is a good tool by vlm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does having wives in different countries qualify as Bigamy?

      No, its a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Wives or a RAIW. Some encourage RAIW-5 although I've heard RAIW-1 with two identical twins is pretty hot. As often said on /., you need to realize that RAIW is a high availability solution not a backup solution, they hate being told they are the backup device, they all want to think they're the primary.

      BTW if anyone out there can explain how to "underclock" my wife from "normal wife" to "inexpensive wife" let me know. I'm sure its all about soldering a jumper somewhere or uploading new BIOS firmware (Is this where the ethernet cable is inserted?)

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    16. Re:Facebook is a good tool by Omestes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never blamed Facebook. It just makes it a bit harder to do what the previous poster said. Sometimes, if I had my druthers, I wouldn't even be on Facebook. Sadly I have a couple friends where pretty much the only way to communicate with them is with it. Its sad and amusing that there is a decent segment of the youngish (30 something) population who has completely failed to grasp email. I know many people who don't even have a personal email account, much less check it, and this MyFaceSpaceBook has become the de facto standard for quick communications (that and SMS).

      Social networks exist because of the exploitation of social leverage. I, personally, miss Livejournal, since it allowed me to type pretty much open letters to my friends. It allowed content. But as social networking evolves the emphasis is much less on content and on mere superficial ass sniffing. There isn't much of interest that can be said in a mere 250 (or 140) characters.

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    17. Re:Facebook is a good tool by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Depends. Most countries don't accept marriages performed in all other countries as valid, only ones with similar laws (US law is weird and convoluted in this respect). If both marriages were conducted in locales that don't regard the other as valid, then it would only count as infidelity, unless he travelled to a third jurisdiction that treated both as valid.

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    18. Re:Facebook is a good tool by rthille · · Score: 4, Informative

      RAIW does not exist, as there is no such thing as an inexpensive wife.

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  2. Facebook + $ by geoffrobinson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Facebook is going to make money by exploiting and mining the data they have (and ads). Losing some customers is to be expected. The interesting thing is that they reached a saturation point already.

    But it doesn't seem like these folks are going to go to another social networking site.

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  3. Well, there goes my damn corn crop by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure, having a "life" is all well and good for my friends. But have they paused for even a moment and thought about what will become of my farm?!?!?

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  4. Re:I'm sick of it ... by somersault · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems to be chock full of stalkers, spammers and generally maladjusted people talking to themselves via status updates

    Why are these people in your friends list in the first place? The whole internet is full of stalkers, spammers and generally maladjusted people. The point of Facebook (or any other messenger service) is that you only white-list those you want to associate with.

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  5. I left Facebook... by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Informative

    And I have not looked back... For me, I got tired of changing my privacy options all the time to keep what I wanted private, private. They kept changing them so that I would have to reconfigure things, for the same level of privacy.

    My blog on how to leave Facebook and keep some of the interesting information: bryanquigley.com/uncategorized/leaving-facebook

  6. users vs time by SemperUbi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I bet the loss in users is nothing compared to the proportion of users who keep their accounts but don't use the site, or view without ever posting. The site is an unpleasant minefield of tiny little areas you never want to click on. If users are declining when so many people have more than one account, I bet they're tanking more than they'll ever want to admit.

  7. Anecdotal evidence by Inda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My young daughter and her friends have recently left Facebook. The reason? Because everyone's parents now use Facebook.

    Those skilled in the internet have known Facebook will not last forever. The media, having hyped the living shite out of it for the past few years, are about to jump on the "Facebook is a sinking ship" hype, and I'm happy to help.

    Good riddance to bad websites.

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  8. Facebook is fueled by narcissism. by The-Blue-Clown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have personally not dropped my facebook page but I visit a lot less often now. I've closed my blog page and I have returned to writing letters. I'm an IT admin so its a little difficult relearning to "write" with a pen so that others can read it. But a lot of my friends world-wide like the letter with the clipped photos and other things I send. There is something more personable in a letter that someone actually wrote and handled. i also got a custom wax stamp so i send them out with wax seals like they used to 100 years ago.

    1. Re:Facebook is fueled by narcissism. by instagib · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A written, physical letter is like a hand-made gift in these times. Between that and sites like Facebook there is still E-Mail - faster and more practical than the first, but much more personal (and hopefully with thoughtful content) than the latter. E-Mail is my favourite tool since 1991 to keep in contact with people I care about.

    2. Re:Facebook is fueled by narcissism. by sgt101 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I myself like to "write" letters by cutting out words and letters from the bible and gluing them onto paper to form messages such as "He is watching over you" and "Behold the glory of the lord is upon you" which I then send to people I find in the phone book.

      I don't use a wax seal though.

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  9. Go live real life by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Turn off the TV, shut down the computer, and go interact with other people, or go do something with your hands. You'd be amazed how many calories you burn by puttering around in the garage or in the yard, or by meeting friends out in public. You should especially do this kind of stuff in the years between 18 and getting married. Don't worry about updating your status, use that smartphone to assist being out and about, not as a replacement for it.

    Life is short, don't squander it.

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    1. Re:Go live real life by instagib · · Score: 3, Funny

      shut down the computer

      I can't, I forgot the root password, you insensitive clod!

  10. Real-world consequences by odin84gk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not going to say this is the start of the end, but it certainly shows that people are no longer "excited" about the social network world.

    People are noticing real-world consequences to the privacy issues, reducing the amount of interesting stuff that people will post. I've run into employer issues, I've had relatives with relationship issues, and I've read enough about legal issues to be wary about what I post. Add in the number of businesses embracing Facebook, and you start to see why "social networks" have reached a saturation point.

    It still has its uses. It is more personal than email (great for keeping your family updated on life events). It is easier to control reoccurring events, such as birthday parties and pick-up games in the park. It is also easier to ignore people on Facebook than through email. I will continue to use it about as regularly as I use my email, but that doesn't mean I like it.

  11. Facebook, meet Myspace, meet Geocities by Fractal+Dice · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Facebook is following the same trajectory of all social networking sites from the dawn of the Internet ... people pile in, then eventually take a harder look at the product they are becoming and start to pull away, starting a long bleeding decline. What's astonishing is that once again, a company appeared which honestly seemed to think they were different, that they weren't subject to the same pattern of free-growth and decay-on-monitization.

    1. Re:Facebook, meet Myspace, meet Geocities by luke923 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The funny thing about this is that it's all predictable. I like to call this the Uncle Johnny Factor. Why you ask? Well, I have an uncle who's name happens to be Johnny who happens to hop on to tech trends at the very tail end. He set up a Geocities account in 2003, moved to MySpace in 2008, and got onto Facebook just recently. So, for all intents and purposes, he serves for me as a canary in the coal mine -- whenever he signs up for something, you know it's no longer cool.

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  12. Facebook Kryptonite: Parents by scorp1us · · Score: 3, Funny

    Having my parents join completely changed my use of FB, and to some extent real life. as now every possible drunken shenanigans picture might get a comment from my mom.

    Now I can have my overbearing over protective mom follow me and judge me all the time? Brilliant!

    Oh and don't dare not friend them, or unfriendly them. That just makes it worse.

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  13. Re:cocky site by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 3, Funny

    and yet you sound so bitter...

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  14. It totally has nothing to do with: by The+O+Rly+Factor · · Score: 3, Funny
    • Incessent narcissism 24 hours a day 7 days a week
    • Data protection that is circumvented by the highest bidder
    • Privacy policies that change with the wind
    • Employers using the data to keep track of their peyons^Hemployees between 5 PM and 9 AM
    • Siphoning of data for the creation of consumer profiles by any third party company with an internet connection
    • Non-stop astroturfing

    Nope. Nothing to do with any of those.