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Winklevoss Twins Finally Give Up Fighting Facebook

An anonymous reader writes "Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's former Harvard classmates Cameron Winklevoss and Tyler Winklevoss, who accuse him of stealing their idea for the social network, have decided not to appeal to the Supreme Court. In a filing today with the federal court in San Francisco, the duo said that after 'careful consideration,' they decided not to seek Supreme Court review of the $65 million settlement."

160 comments

  1. First! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    First! Unless Mark wants it instead... I could use $65M

  2. I would have given up a while ago by the_humeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and bought my own tropical island to live on.

    1. Re:I would have given up a while ago by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you copyright that idea and sue the Winklevii when they do something that sounds similar (to someone who has no idea about islands) then you can have a couple million for yourself.

    2. Re:I would have given up a while ago by Anarki2004 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, I know what that is. I advise that nobody click on that.

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    3. Re:I would have given up a while ago by LS · · Score: 2

      These guys never had a problem getting to a tropical island, so this was not about getting enough money to retire.

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    4. Re:I would have given up a while ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it's a very mild video and not the image on lemonparty dot org.

      I don't know why it has been spammed all over today stories.

    5. Re:I would have given up a while ago by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Actually if the settlement is all in the form of cash, they may end up making more money than pretty much anyone else in the organization, they really should consider themselves lucky.

    6. Re:I would have given up a while ago by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      This one is within their settlement price and looks a hell of a lot nicer than having to deal with lawyers and talk about Zuckerman.

    7. Re:I would have given up a while ago by vuffi_raa · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you copyright that idea and sue the Winklevii when they do something that sounds similar (to someone who has no idea about islands) then you can have a couple million for yourself.

      See, this is why you aren't in the money and they are... as that would be a method, it would be a patent and not a copyright.

  3. woo hoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    always wanted to be #1

    1. Re:woo hoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, Cameron, you missed out again.

    2. Re:woo hoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you failed.

  4. In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...$65 million is still more than most will ever see in their entire lives, and the SCOTUS might overturn the case on review and/or FaceBook might turn out to be the next Madoff scheme.

    1. Re:In other words... by CrackerJack9 · · Score: 1

      It was Stock and cash, valued at $65 million...not just cash.

    2. Re:In other words... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      ...$65 million is still more than most will ever see in their entire lives

      Ha. Several lives.

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    3. Re:In other words... by elsurexiste · · Score: 1

      If I read correctly, there were indeed two.

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    4. Re:In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, well played.

  5. The preferred nomenclature by IvyMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude, the preferred nomenclature is "Winklevii".

    1. Re:The preferred nomenclature by syousef · · Score: 1

      Dude, the preferred nomenclature is "Winklevii".

      But Levi Jeans has a trademark on it.

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    2. Re:The preferred nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some odd reason I read that in the voice of Hermione from Harry Potter, "Leviosa!"

    3. Re:The preferred nomenclature by guspasho · · Score: 2

      Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here.

    4. Re:The preferred nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are a dull headed winkertoss,

      in so fackwagon ashamed of you!

    5. Re:The preferred nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are you talking about?

    6. Re:The preferred nomenclature by guspasho · · Score: 1

      Walter, he peed on my rug!

  6. Thank Goodness! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been having a hard time sleeping at night, with all this uncertainty as to which set of narcissistic pricks would end up minting a giant pile of pretend internet money during the fools-from-their-money-parted IPO... I feel so much better now that the matter is settled.

    1. Re:Thank Goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Normally jealousy is unbecoming, but it looks fabulous on you.

    2. Re:Thank Goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Normally jealousy is unbecoming, but it looks fabulous on you.

      For the TL;DR - the GP post says: "Stuff that matters... indeed </sarcasm>"

    3. Re:Thank Goodness! by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Normally jealousy is unbecoming, but it looks fabulous on you.

      For all you know, fff is worth more than the settlement. But he's right: it's really hard to feel very sorry for anyone involved in this mess.

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    4. Re:Thank Goodness! by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure this is more "Who cares" than "I'm envious."

    5. Re:Thank Goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can use that "pretend internet money" to buy houses, cars, food... not sure what the difference between that and "definitely totally real money" is.

    6. Re:Thank Goodness! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      You mean you don't feel sorry for a couple of himbo pretty-boys who never had to work a day in their lives and were raised with silver spoons in their mouths? I mean come on, don't tell me that if you went to a college that your dad bought you into even though you're as dumb as a rock, only to have some greedy jew steal your vague idea and make money off of it without giving you a big chunk of it for doing nothing, that you wouldn't be pissed off too. Without those millions, there is the slight possibility that they may have had to engage in ---ugh--- actual labor (perish the thought!). Are you suggesting they should degrade themselves like that?

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  7. On the plus side by Darth_brooks · · Score: 2

    In ten or so years when Facebook goes the way of AOL (Because, lets be honest, facebook will somehow die. Eventually.) the Winkelvoss twins will be the ones who came out ahead.

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    1. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Would Facebook then be the first company in history to die without its top executives cashing out and retiring rich?

    2. Re:On the plus side by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      What makes that the "plus side?"

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    3. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No way will it still be around in ten years. I'd be surprised if anyone still remembers it in three years. Right now, someone, somewhere is putting the finishing touches on the code of the Next Big Thing.

    4. Re:On the plus side by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      What makes that the "plus side?"

      Two negatives make a positive, I guess. Actually in this case, it's three negatives, so that would make it double-plus good. Or something.

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    5. Re:On the plus side by rssrss · · Score: 1

      "the Winkelvoss twins will be the ones who came out ahead."

      Only if they cash out before the crash.

      "Timing is Everything" -- Andre Agassi

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    6. Re:On the plus side by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      No way will it still be around in ten years. I'd be surprised if anyone still remembers it in three years. Right now, someone, somewhere is putting the finishing touches on the code of the Next Big Thing.

      Probably not here in the U.S., not with the patent system in general (and software and business-method patents in particular) suppressing anyone that farts even the slightest hint of innovation or disruptive tech. There's a reason there haven't been any more Googles lately.

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    7. Re:On the plus side by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      I doubt it... You don't think Zuckerberg will be a billionaire? Even besides your death prediction (which I'm suspicious is colored with bias and perhaps a desire that Facebook dies soon), you don't think anyone else there has already made it?

    8. Re:On the plus side by guspasho · · Score: 1

      How, exactly? Zuckerberg has a property that is worth a lot of money, and may cash in on it at any time between now and its demise to such an extent as to ensure that he and several generations of his family remain filthy rich, and indeed has been cashing in on it. The Winklevii will have what? Their bitterness (mistakenly) vindicated?

    9. Re:On the plus side by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

      Three negatives goes back to being a negative. Don't you remember anything from Middle School Math?

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    10. Re:On the plus side by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      facebook will somehow die

      I agree. And not somehow, but of complete and utter apathy. Social networking as a viable business model is not the "hot new thing" it was 5 years ago. I can't believe Facebook is still chugging along now. I don't see it still around at the level it is currently in 5 years.

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    11. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the fuck does this dumb shit get modded insightful? It just goes to show how out of touch Slashdorks are anymore.

      Since you're too much of a dumbass to do your research yourself, AOL just bought the Huffington Post a few months back for more than 4 times what the Winklevoss twins were contesting over.

      If "goes the way of AOL" is an insult, I'd love to be insulted. And it's not that I'm so stupid as to see that they're bleeding money but they're far from down and out. Steve Case is *STILL* worth over a billion dollars.

      Check your facts, buddy. You came out of this one looking like a royal twit.

    12. Re:On the plus side by Evets · · Score: 1

      Because eventually, facebook will go the way of MySpace, Friendster, et all, and completely lose it's value. Whereas the Winklevii will have cash that they pulled out of facebook, zuckerberg will have a lot of paper that's worth nothing.

    13. Re:On the plus side by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 0

      Well, you are assuming we are dealing with some subset of the real numbers. I prefer to do all of my work using modular arithmetic, in which case it is possible to add or multiply three negatives and get a positive...and where your "negatives" are also "positives."

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    14. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facebook will somehow die

      I agree. And not somehow, but of complete and utter apathy. Social networking as a viable business model is not the "hot new thing" it was 5 years ago. I can't believe Facebook is still chugging along now. I don't see it still around at the level it is currently in 5 years.

      i think you are wrong.

    15. Re:On the plus side by jjohnson · · Score: 1

      Did you know that Friendster has 125 million active users still?

      It's a little nuts because it's dead in North America, but it's going strong in southeast Asia, and is a very viable business still. Frequently we tend to equate Internet popularity with business success, and the reverse, but neither are very strong correlations.

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    16. Re:On the plus side by oztiks · · Score: 1

      If we're talking technology FaceBook it will die the same way IRC died, something fresher and hotter will be on its way soon enough.

      Home entertainment and Internet, webcam and VoIP. All you need is just the bottle of your favorite drink, sit down on the couch and you could have yourself fairly compelling social gathering, sheesh most SmartPhones these days carry all these components. If you think of the possibilities, virtual nightclubs, parties, the sky's the limit. Throw a few bits of profile matching stuff in and presto, yet another intrusive piece of technology that bugs the crap out of me.

      That's just one thought, maybe that's to far ahead, maybe a step or two behind that but still you can see it all in the making with how things are going.

      And as smart as Zuckerberg is he's made the rookie mistake of jumping into bed with Microsoft, that'll surly be his achilles heal.

    17. Re:On the plus side by tiddlydum · · Score: 1

      I think you underestimate the usage it gets from the younger generations. It's going as strong as ever, and will continue to go on, until something replaces it. Social networking is here to stay, it will only evolve.

    18. Re:On the plus side by glwtta · · Score: 0

      There is no fucking way that '-oss' pluralizes to '-ii' - in any fucking language that as ever existed.

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    19. Re:On the plus side by guspasho · · Score: 1

      Where do you think that $65 million came from and why don't you think Zuckerberg hasn't already pulled out many times that amount for himself?

      AOL, Myspace, and Friendster are far from worthless. They are still billion-dollar and hundred-million dollar companies. and even if Facebook fades in to obscurity it will still have been a billion-dollar company. Eventually everything loses its value, but that doesn't stop people from getting filthy rich, as the founders of all those companies had. Why don't you think that Zuckerberg isn't already filthy rich? By filthy rich I mean so rich that $65 million becomes chump change.

    20. Re:On the plus side by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 2

      Younger generations? Like my 59 year old mum and 65 year old step dad? I am the only one without a facebook account in my entire extended family. Facebook beat myspace because it has better general appeal. Not just the younger folks.

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    21. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People use it. They like it. It's useful. I can't see myself stopping anytime soon, nor would most of the people I care about having on Facebook.

    22. Re:On the plus side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ditto. to you.

    23. Re:On the plus side by Anrego · · Score: 1

      I agree facebook will die (and for the love of the great fire cactus I hope it's soon) .. but social networking isn't going anywhere.

      It may not be the "hot new thing", but I'd say at this point it's like search. People have gotten a taste for it, and unless something else comes along that totally changes everything, we are just going to see one social networking system replaced with another.

    24. Re:On the plus side by CubicleView · · Score: 1

      I'm only guessing of course, but Facebook will probably have and IPO. Some time after that there will be several unlocks of the insider shares and there will probably be several new multi millionares running about.

    25. Re:On the plus side by operagost · · Score: 1

      I guess you were born after the .bomb, huh? Most of those guys didn't have time to cash out.

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    26. Re:On the plus side by CapnStank · · Score: 1

      Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't there already been 2 or 3 "Next Big Things" that facebook beat out? The problem isn't innovation, capabilities or style, its that everyone is on facebook becase... everyone is on facebook. Sure you might get a hipster-esk crowd to jump to the new one to say "I was there BEFORE it was cool" but unless the masses follow suit it is doomed to fail quickly.

      The only way out of the loop that I see is someone deriving a new business model to maintain themselves while struggling to steal facebook's popularity. If that's the case then it likely wont be a coder to innovate the idea and we'll see this whole winkle-burg toss up again.

    27. Re:On the plus side by James+Carnley · · Score: 1

      foursquare would disagree with you.

    28. Re:On the plus side by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but "everyone" was on Myspace as well when Facebook beat them into the ground. The hard part is trying to picture what sort of service would have enough things better than Facebook to get a lot of people to move over to it.

    29. Re:On the plus side by CapnStank · · Score: 2

      And that's sort of another thing facebook has going for it. As crappy as the API is most developers looking to cache in on the social networking scheme see a greater opportunity tying in their idea to facebook rather than trying to compete with it.

    30. Re:On the plus side by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Well yeah. I'm sure when "Web 2.0" happened, businesses were racking their brains figuring out how to do the whole "social" thing. Now it amounts to "Put this Facebook/Twitter/Stumbleupon/etc. button on your page." It's a ready-made social network that's easy to integrate with. And yes, I just ended a sentence with a preposition. Fuck the police.

    31. Re:On the plus side by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Yeah, right.

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    32. Re:On the plus side by guspasho · · Score: 1
  8. Stealing underpants for real cash by nighty5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) intend to launch a social network based on academia but do hardly anything
    2) ???
    3) profit!

    1. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by joeflies · · Score: 2

      I think we know what Step #2 and #3 are

      2) Sue

      3) Sue Again!

    2. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by bjd1970 · · Score: 2

      Your comments are of course based on the movie rather than the facts.

    3. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh seems to me that for this one story, the idea was quite a lot important; the realisation I'm not completely sure.
      I've seen lots of much more trollesque patent-driven lawsuits stories...

      That being said yeah I don't care who wins the millions.

    4. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      ...and your comment is based on what, exactly?

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    5. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by nomadic · · Score: 1

      "Heh seems to me that for this one story, the idea was quite a lot important;"

      What idea? It was a myspace ripoff that managed to implement it slightly better.

    6. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by kodomo · · Score: 2

      Are really based on the trailer.. I didn't see the movie

    7. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Don't bother. It was 90 minutes of my life wasted, that I'll never get back. At least I can say I slept through 30 minutes of it.

          Basically, take some kids who want to be the center of attention, keep raising that attention level ad nauseum, and lowering their level of social graces until they finally roll the closing credits.

          I think there was something about some web site, a boat, sleeping with groupies, and drugs.

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    8. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many minutes of your life can you chalk up wasted to Facebook?

    9. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by tebee · · Score: 1

      How many minutes of your life can you chalk up wasted to /. ?

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    10. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Including that post and this one? About 92. :)

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    11. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Its not about the money! I saw an interview with the W's and they said its about justice and doing whats right! This is truly a sad day for the American dream (which is of course suing in any way possible to weasel money out of anything imaginable).

    12. Re:Stealing underpants for real cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, all movies are true, it's against the law to put false things on tv!

  9. Maybe because of their OTHER lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was just announced that they are going after the Doublemint Twins. Hoping for double the pleasure and double the fun.

    1. Re:Maybe because of their OTHER lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a funny guy!

      http://www.oilfilterwrenchhq.com

  10. none of this was really that surprising by v1 · · Score: 2

    they'd already won 65mil$, they had plenty of spare money to piss away trying to get a lot more. Even if their lawyers said hey you have about a 2% chance of winning, it'd still be worth the try.

    I wonder if zuck will go after legal fees? again that's just a drop in both of their buckets at this point though. As usual, "the only winners are the lawyers".

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  11. I wonder if their animosity runs deep enough... by dominion · · Score: 1

    ... that they'd be willing to kick down some money for open source, distributed social networking projects (like, Appleseed :)

    They may not get any return on their investment, unless you count sweet, sweet revenge.

    1. Re:I wonder if their animosity runs deep enough... by billcopc · · Score: 1

      That just doesn't sound like the type of open-source project that would succeed, because social networking is ultimately a marketing vehicle. Either you build a big network and sell the eyeballs, or you fade into obscurity before anyone even notices.

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    2. Re:I wonder if their animosity runs deep enough... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      What makes you think any of this is about animosity? They are greedy, that's all -- they didn't get billions they only got millions and they weren't satisfied with that. The fact that they could live comfortable for the rest of their lives without having to do any work whatsoever is irrelevant to them.

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    3. Re:I wonder if their animosity runs deep enough... by dominion · · Score: 1

      "social networking is ultimately a marketing vehicle"

      Social networking is quickly becoming a commodity, which makes it a prime target for an open source challenge. With a distributed network, a single site with under 10 users can operate within a larger network, which overcomes the network effect that centralized social networks require.

  12. Coming up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The battle with "wood pellet dude". He has an army of lawyers now.

  13. Just a thought... by zill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    $65 million

    Suppose I had a nemesis and I won the lottery, I would immediately send my nemesis a check for $1000 just to piss him off. He would anguish over it for weeks and would never cash it in the end.

    Seeing as how Zuckerberg's personal wealth is around $13.5 billion, this $65 million probably served a similar purpose.

    1. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would like to apply for the position as your nemesis, just in case.

    2. Re:Just a thought... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      Except that it was not voluntary (he was kind of forced to make a settlement, since the court case was going to be pretty tough) and that it is enough money that the twins will never have to work again, if they choose not to. They say $1 million is not what it used to be; somehow I get the feeling that $65 million is what it used to be.

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    3. Re:Just a thought... by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      You mean his pretend worth based on completely factless estimates from the people that want to take the company IPO (for the millions they will be paid). Facebook makes no money as in zero net revenue. Once that is common knowledge the "real" value of this company will be near zero and Zuckerberg's share will be pennies on the current value.

      They are refusing to sell American's stock because they will violate US regulations by concealing the financial documents. Do you know why they want to conceal the financials? Because they are very very scary and indicate how little money the company actually makes.

    4. Re:Just a thought... by nomadic · · Score: 3, Informative

      They come from family money, too; their father runs a successful actuarial consulting company that I've dealt with, and if he chose they could have never worked again without the $65 million dollars.

    5. Re:Just a thought... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Because they are very very scary and indicate how little money the company actually makes.

      Well, sure. Where exactly does Facebook make its money? They don't charge for the service (as if anyone would pay for it, which should tell you something) Advertising? I suppose, but they're no Google ... we're not Google's customers anyway. The advertisers are.

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    6. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose, but they're no Google ... we're not Google's customers anyway.

      No, you are Facebook's product (and Google's for that matter).

    7. Re:Just a thought... by SlithyMagister · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just in case -- I am now your nemesis
      --but I WILL cash it

    8. Re:Just a thought... by pokerdad · · Score: 1

      They are refusing to sell American's stock because they will violate US regulations by concealing the financial documents. Do you know why they want to conceal the financials? Because they are very very scary and indicate how little money the company actually makes.

      Or maybe they make lots of money and don't want it made public just how they are doing that. I bet 500 million users' personal info could be worth a lot of money to a lot of companys.

    9. Re:Just a thought... by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      I agree. 13.5 billion is a lot of money. But maintaining that kind of wealth requires Zuckerberg to remain in the spotlight for 40+ hours a week. That life is not for me (if I can help it). Ya, I'd be miffed -for a moment-, but who wouldn't be if your objective is to run a small business and become modestly wealthy. Little did all three know...

      After receiving 65 million, I would have tipped my hat to Zuckerberg and left quietly in the night. My next stop would be a world of permanent vacation without a financial care in the world.

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    10. Re:Just a thought... by snotclot · · Score: 1

      I thought they made quite a bit through targeted ad's and selling data-mined demographics to large/small businesses ?

      Of course, I read this on the internet (probably some TC such site, although I dropped TC after they went to Facebook's commenting system, how retarded of them).

      Could just be FB propaganda thrown out there to increase their value and keep it all stable.

    11. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I thought this topic had been canvassed extensively on Slashdot? Facebook makes money by datamining its userbase and selling the information to advertisers who then tailor the advertising that appears on your FB page to meet your personal taste. They are basically the worlds largest market research company, except they found a way of getting people to freely divulge all the information about themselves.

    12. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just in case -- I am now your nemesis

      --but I WILL cash it

      and I am yours, so when you get that check, don't forget to cut me one for $10

    13. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's all this "never work again if they so choose" nonsense?

      Who in their right mind would throw away 40 hours a week of their life working if they didn't have to?

    14. Re:Just a thought... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I agree. 13.5 billion is a lot of money. But maintaining that kind of wealth requires Zuckerberg to remain in the spotlight for 40+ hours a week.

      Why would that be? I'm honestly asking, I have no frame of reference for wealth beyond about 5 digits. Seems like if he were to retire to an apartment overlooking central park and take up a habit of smashing faberge eggs, he'd still likely die with more than a billion dollars.

    15. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still a dollar for every year since the dinosaurs died.

    16. Re:Just a thought... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Very rich people would. They see it as a challenge. The money becomes a way of keeping score.

    17. Re:Just a thought... by dkf · · Score: 1

      and I am yours, so when you get that check, don't forget to cut me one for $10

      You can't get a check. You're an Anonymous Coward.

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    18. Re:Just a thought... by InsectOverlord · · Score: 1

      They will definitely go public.

      If LinkedIn did, I don't see why facebook cannot.

    19. Re:Just a thought... by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      It depends how you define "work".

      Was writing harry potter "work"?
      Is leading microsoft or apple "work"?
      Is leading the bill and melinda gate's foundation "work"?
      Is leading canonical "work"?

      Some people actually enjoy the work they do and when you are rich you can do it on your terms since you have the capital to invest in setting up your own buisnesses to work in rather than working for "the man".

      --
      note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
    20. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes to all of those being work.

      However, I have a better explanation for why the extremely rich continue to work after amassing massive amounts of money. Have you ever heard about how successful CEOs fit the profile of psychopaths? That's why every single normal person out there would stop working the moment they accumulated $2-$5 million but they don't.

    21. Re:Just a thought... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      You can't get a check. You're an Anonymous Coward.

      So just make the check out to "Cash".

    22. Re:Just a thought... by operagost · · Score: 1

      - It's not all liquid. It's in assets that could lose value, like Facebook shares.
      - The dollar could collapse, like other currencies before it. Hi, George Soros.
      - Taxes, taxes, taxes.
      - Thieves

      --

      Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
    23. Re:Just a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm his nemesis too. But I definitely won't waver for $1,000. He'd have to make it at least $2,000 before I would even consider it, and if he really wanted me to lay awake at night in anguish, he should make it $10,000.

  14. Use of proceeds by turkeyfeathers · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    They should take the $65 million (or whatever they have left after paying their lawyers) and invest in BitCoins. Then they'll end up richer than Zuckerberg.

    1. Re:Use of proceeds by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      You mean whoever steals their bitcoin wallet and passphrase (via keylogging) will end up richer than Zuckerberg.

  15. Tinfoil already? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

    Where do you buy the tinfoil for your hats? I think I know which company to invest my money in.

    Yes, there was something strange about the source of money that went into creating Facebook, but somehow I doubt that the CIA thought that social networking websites were going to help track down targets. More likely, they wanted to see what sort of technology social networking websites would produce, which might be useful for their own intelligence gathering operations.

    --
    Palm trees and 8
    1. Re:Tinfoil already? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, I do list tinfoil hat adjustments on the list of services I provide. It's not on the list, but we'll be more than happy to hand craft the finest tinfoil hats that money can buy. I can't disclose the secret materials we make it with, nor the testing procedures involved, but I can say that none of my clients has ever proven that any government, aliens, or bigfoot has penetrating their minds. :)

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    2. Re:Tinfoil already? by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Where do you buy the tinfoil for your hats? I think I know which company to invest my money in.

      Which company is that? Because I was talking about starting a tinfoil hat business one day, I need to know who to sue to get that $65 mil settlement.

  16. Good for them by m.dillon · · Score: 1

    Sometimes its hard to back off the excess greed. Kudos to them. That's a lot of money to be able to retire on, easily $15M each after taxes. About $750K in income every year if maintaining their basis at-par (inflation adjusted) with a conservative portfolio.

    -Matt

    1. Re:Good for them by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...maintaining their basis at-par (inflation adjusted) with a conservative portfolio.

      Or they could spend it all on hookers and blow in the first year, dieing penniless, unloved, and face down in their own vomit. Send your suggestions to winklevossmillions.org today.

    2. Re:Good for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is the settlement in an Annuity?

    3. Re:Good for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awwwww...thats not even a real site

    4. Re:Good for them by PCPackrat · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one that read penisless? I mean the hookers and all; in the end they could fall off.

    5. Re:Good for them by youn · · Score: 1

      Yes 100 000 equal yearly payments ;)

      --
      Never antropomorphize computers, they do not like that :p
    6. Re:Good for them by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Ah... the sheep agree that stopping at only 65 million is a sign of their largess and high morals. Well played Winklevii. Well played.

      --
      +++OK ATH
  17. Why not? by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd have done it, just for kicks. What other excitement exists in the life of a multi-millionaire, besides suing each other and being sued?

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    1. Re:Why not? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Banging gold-digging super models from what I've heard.

      --
      I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
    2. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shooting poor people?

  18. What a coincidence! by nightcats · · Score: 0

    Day after the Wal-Mart decision at SCOTUS -- think it got through to the Winkies that SCOTUS is a deep friend of wealthy established multi-billion $ corporate entities? Young Winki, you chose wisely.

    --
    Development is programmable; Discovery is not programmable. (Fuller)
    1. Re:What a coincidence! by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Day after the Wal-Mart decision at SCOTUS -- think it got through to the Winkies that SCOTUS is a deep friend of wealthy established multi-billion $ corporate entities? Young Winki, you chose wisely.

      Why wisely? Sure, they might spend another half-mil trying to push the case up to SCOTUS, and then they might lose. And what then? They'd basically be right where they are now, minus the half-mil. If you've already won the lottery to the tune of $65 million, why wouldn't you buy one more ticket, just to see?

      --
      Breakfast served all day!
  19. Zuckerberg is not stupid, obviously... by Goonie · · Score: 1

    ...and every investment adviser in the world would tell him to diversify his assets.

    He takes 5% of his current net worth and sticks it in a global property portfolio, another 5% in an index fund, and maybe 2% in cash and other liquid assets, and even if Facebook dies tomorrow he's still an extraordinarily rich man.

    For that matter, the Winklevoss twins are also extraordinarily rich, and will remain so.

    --

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  20. Re:In streetspeak by bmo · · Score: 1

    Obviously ignoring all the Geocities and Angelfire clones out there.

    Excuse me while I add you to my web ring.

    Tosser.

    --
    BMO

  21. More candy? by ace123 · · Score: 1

    It was just announced that they are going after the Doublemint Twins. Hoping for double the pleasure and double the fun.

    Because going after the sugar mountain wasn't enough?

  22. With 65 million... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be far easier just to have ol markie z killed now. No lawyers needed.

    Accidents happen. The world is a dangerous place.

  23. Re:In streetspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, I haven't seen a troll like this in a long time. Hopefully you don't take yourself seriously...

  24. So does this mean? by Cito · · Score: 0

    There will be a Social Network part 2 to bring this to conclusion so Trent Reznor can win another academy award for soundtrack?

  25. Take the Money and Run. by billstewart · · Score: 1

    It's too late for the advice "say thank you" or "and then shut up" to do any good. But cash the checks, put some of it in diversified investments where you'll have a safe income stream for life, blow some of it drinking rum on tropical islands, and then either shut up or go invent something else new and cool.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  26. They make me angry by BlueCoder · · Score: 2

    They are in business school and they tried to recruit mark for his skills. They had no contract and what they actually wanted to create was more like a dating site rather than anything like what Facebook turned into.

    I get offers all the time to create web sites for people but I'm like you have to have it all thought out and then come to me. Storyboard everything. If you can't do that we are wasting each others time. The idea person actually has to have an idea rather than me doing all the work creating the product. If I have to create the product and I'm doing it all myself anyway then I'm going to do it for myself. It takes more than a half cocked idea to actually make something like Facebook. The whole thing was sold on growth and being the next it thing and that's more than creating a few web pages.

    1. Re:They make me angry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm like you have to have it all thought out and then come to me.

      Are you, like, tatally like that? Awesome!

    2. Re:They make me angry by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      I agree; I don't particularly like Zuckerberg, but in this case, he had the drive, energy, vision of what FB 'should be', and put in all the real hard work. I've had millions of 'ideas' thrown at me too, over the years, with people hoping I'll just do the work or whatever. They should've had a contract if they wanted to own what Zuckerberg did - but honestly I see no reason why they should own the work of someone else, without that person's consent, that is immoral. Then they should have been more than happy to get $65mil that they didn't deserve (paid for out the pockets of FB's advertisers and investors), that is more than enough to not only not have to work ever again, but to actually live in luxury without ever having to work again. But they proved to be greedy pricks and wanted more, more, more money that they don't deserve. Now probably their lawyers advised it was worth a short - small investment compared to the potential reward makes it a relatively logical move even if the odds are low - except they come across in public as greedy entitled pricks. I come from a relatively austere background, if I ever came into $65 million you would never hear me complain about anything ever again in my entire life.

  27. Don't be so protective about "ideas" by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Quite a few people had the same idea at the same time. The Winklevoss twins decided that even though they had access to considerable amounts of cash, not to take the risk, and hire a developer to work for free. They offer no contract, no NDA and no reason not to work for a competitor. Not only that but the guy was quite clearly something of a sociopath.

    "Ideas" aren't copyrightable (there are dozens of facebook clones, as well as clones of every other type of successful site). Whether he "stole" their idea or not is beside the point. It had zero value. Zuckerberg invested something in facebook that did have real value - his time! While the twins were dithering about hoping for this guy to build their site, Zuckerberg was working for a rival company actually producing something. They made a bad business decision and want a share of something they've put no effort into.

  28. Severe image problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "we are the blond guys of Karate Kid chasing a nerd"!

  29. That is overhyped. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    It is not as good an experience as you think it may be.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
    1. Re:That is overhyped. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rather than take your word for it, I think I'll discover for myself if empty sex with a string of models is really that bad.

    2. Re:That is overhyped. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er... how in hell do you know that?!

    3. Re:That is overhyped. by jbr439 · · Score: 1

      For the sake of settling this once and for all, I accept that challenge. Kindly supply me with an abundant supply of super-models so that I can properly prepare my report.

    4. Re:That is overhyped. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. What the g-dsm's are doing for a sense of selfishness, a high-end call girl considers a craft. Between a person who'll treat it as an obligation and one who treats it as a trade-skill her reputation is based on, I know which way I'd go.

  30. This will be on next years OED new word list: by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Winklevi

  31. the new facebook scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is an ad that I saw on craigslist...

    I am creating a social interactive website that is very unique...this site will require extensive database design.. I need this individual to have computer programming abilities since I am going to require you to design an interface that allows users to manipulate images in new ways.

    Now, if I the developer bang this out and make it my own with my own unique ideas, who's idea is it?

  32. Dear Messrs Winklevoss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a solicitor of affairs and have been in discussions with one Mr. Zuckerberg. I have secured a cash receipt of US$ 65 Million from him after presenting your case. These funds are currently deposited in First Commercial Bank of Lagos, Nigeria.
    I am willing to hand over these funds to you. To do this I will need to make additional cash payment to my bankers to cover any transactional and legal fees. Therefore I would like to ask you to transfer an amount of US$ 2 Million to may personal account or mail me a cheque.
    Thanking you ahead and awaiting your prompt response. For further correspondence please contact me using my personal email address drofabemi@yahoo.com.

    Yours Sincerely
    Dr. Ofabemi Bolanle
    Solicitor

  33. Facebook's demise?? Not likely. by Announcer · · Score: 2

    Has anyone else noticed the trend of LARGE corporations, like McDonald's, Coca-Cola, etc, not only having their own WEBsites, but ALSO "Like us on Facebook" in their own ads? Did we see this kind of trend with MySewer? No. It is almost as though Facebook is becoming a "second Internet" of sorts.

    Advertisers are flocking to Facebook because it has a very effective advertising model. (I know, I have used it!) It combines the best of all features. Everything from extremely focused, targeted adverts with broad-scale, wide-distribution, to small-area/local ads. Mom and Pop businesses can EASILY afford to advertise (very effectively, BTW!) on Facebook, and limit the distribution of their ads to within just a few miles of their location. That's why I seriously doubt that Facebook is going away any time soon.

    Unless, of course, they do something that utterly and completely ticks-off a majority of their userbase, so they leave en masse... but that would also depend upon whether a truly viable alternative existed.

    --
    Willie...
  34. Ummm.. by voss · · Score: 1

    $65 million is a lot different from $1000

    $1000 is piss on you money

    $65 million is Youre still a bastard but um yeah its $65 million bucks.

    1. Re:Ummm.. by voss · · Score: 1

      No Im not related to Winklevoss

  35. make it on their own by schlachter · · Score: 1

    but they wanted to prove to dad that they could make it on their own...a by golly they did.

    --
    My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
  36. who needs more than $65,000,000 by schlachter · · Score: 1

    What do you get with more than $65 million that you don't get with $65 million that would be worth continuing to sue for? Seems like a case of absurdly diminishing returns after the first $10-$30 million.

    --
    My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
  37. $65,000,000 boat doesn't run itself. by Viewsonic · · Score: 1

    You'd need more money to keep it going.

  38. Thus proving that... by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    Facebook is on it's way out.

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