LulzSec Posts First Secret Document Dump

Dangerous_Minds writes "LulzSec has been vowing to expose government secrets for the last few days. Now they have delivered. According to ZeroPaid, LulzSec has posted secret documents about Arizona Law Enforcement. The release has been posted to file-sharing website ThePirateBay. LulzSec says the release is because they are 'against SB1070 and the racial profiling anti-immigrant police state that is Arizona.'"

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AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Anonymous Coward]

It's anti-illegal-immigrant. There's a difference.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[geoffrobinson]

Unfortunately, many can't distinguish between the two positions. My legal immigrant friends sure can.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Libertarian001]

You really are stupid. I live in AZ. My immediate supervisor is 100% ethnic Mexican (and his grandfather immigrated here). His stance? Fully supports SB1070. It's anti-illegal-immigration.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[SQL Error]

Right, because all illegal immigrants commit crimes.

Ahem.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Urza9814]

The first one is from a published report, ("Jailed Without Justice", published by Amnesty International, page 20, very easy to find if you google it) which lists the original source as: "Testimony of Kara Hartzler, Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project, before the House of Representatives Subcommittee on Immigrantion, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law Hearing on Problems with ICE Interrogation, Detention and Removal Procedures, Second Session of the 110th Congress, 13 February 2008, serial Number 110-80, available at: http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/110th/40742.PDF"

He worked at $1/day, a birth certificate costs $30, so that's at least a month assuming he was working full time every day. Not sure if he would have, I'm not all that familiar with the prison system. Also doesn't count time spent being transferred and such (which ICE does very frequently and without notice). I suppose I did make a slight mistake though in the time, as the original does only say "over a month". And yes, I suppose it would be state, not federal government that he purchased it from, the original doesn't specify.

The second case is from the Summer 2011 issue of "Free For All" published by the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania. Article was "Pennsylvania's Secret Prisoners". Unfortunately, I'm not finding it available online anywhere, and the name in the article was changed.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[xantonin]

"A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the united states or arizona constitution"

Page 1, lines 30-34.

Do you really think in a state where brown skin is the majority that cops will waste their time bugging everyone who is brown skinned? We in AZ are aware there are a lot of legal Hispanics here, don't insult us with your assumptions.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Anonymous Coward]

Unfortunately, many can't distinguish between the two positions. My legal immigrant friends sure can.

I am anti-illegal immigrants, but I have a problem with the Arizona law: It can't possibly be constitutional.

Allow me to explain. My mother is a white american who married a latino. I was born in the US, I have citizenship by blood and by place of birth. If I were to visit Arizona, and some cop looks at me, he might decide that he has "probable cause" to ask for papers, because I look foreign. As a result you have a cop that is going to ask an American citizen for papers and jail me if I refuse to comply.

How in the FUCK can you think that's constitutional?

Now, if the law would instead put employers in jail who hire illegal immigrants knowingly, I'd be all for it. That's the problem anyway. If they couldn't get jobs here, the US wouldn't be worth the enormous risk they take crossing the border.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[ArcherB]

I'm all for enforcing immigration laws (though I do believe it should be done at the federal level), but that does not mean stopping people for driving while dark-skinned and asking for their papers is anything less than inherent and frankly disgusting racism, codified into law.

Show me where that is written into the law. Someone has lied to you.

For the record, pulling someone over because based on looks is strictly forbidden in the law.

Re:illegal immigration = modern slavery

[leromarinvit]

You can't fix slavery with a law that punishes the slaves instead of the slaveowners.

Not for public distribution?

[tantaliz3]

Not for public distribution should be illegal in a free democratic society. Democracy fails if the voters don't have a clear and complete perspective.

No Problem

[d'fim]

It's OK. As long as the state didn't do anything wrong they have nothing to worry about.

Re:illegal immigration = modern slavery

[_KiTA_]

Where i live, both are. If you get caught employing illegals, you get fined and the illegals are sent back home.

I used to work in Apple Warehouses in Yakima Washington.

One day I noticed a few trucks from the warehouse down the road filled to the brim with Latino workers. They were driving out towards the orchards, away from the other warehouse, which looked absolutely deserted.

I asked my father, who still works as a forklift foreman at the warehouse, what that was about.

"Oh, Evans is getting a surprise inpsection, so they're moving all the illegals out to the field for the rest of the week. They'll have the legals work at the warehouse until the inspectors leave."

"Wait, but isn't it a surprise inspection?"

"Yeah, but they warn them a day or two ahead of time so they don't get caught."