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iPhone 4 Survives Fall From Skydiver's Pocket

tripleevenfall sent in a link with a story that is sure to be the basis for the next iPhone 4 commercial. From the article: "Jarrod McKinney's iPhone 4 — a notoriously fragile device — cracked when his 2-year-old knocked it off a bathroom shelf. So it's easy to see why McKinney, a 37-year-old in Minnesota, would be 'just absolutely shocked' when that same phone survived a fall from his pocket — while he was skydiving from 13,500 feet."

233 comments

  1. I loathe the smell of marketing in the morning. by suso · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've heard of dropped calls, but this is ridiculous.

    1. Re:I loathe the smell of marketing in the morning. by obergfellja · · Score: 1

      he must have AT&T.

  2. Surface by Tukz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doesn't it highly depend on the surface it lands on as well?
    I mean, a bathroom floor is pretty hard and solid, while, say, a bush could soften the blow quite significantly.

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    1. Re:Surface by slshwtw · · Score: 3, Informative

      The phone was found on top of a building, so its a decent bet the landing wasn't so gentle. However, the summary omits the fact that the phone had a protective case (and that the glass on the phone was completely shattered and the UI inoperable).

    2. Re:Surface by Creepy · · Score: 1

      I read about this yesterday, and the article says it landed on the roof of a building (it was the most read article on CNN for a while). Probably either solid stone or pebbles for a Minnesota two story*. He also doesn't know when it fell out during his skydive, but he landed 1/2 mile away from the phone, so it probably was a pretty good drop.

      * - I have a bit of personal experience on roofs in Minnesota while I was in college at both UMD and the U of M for some reason - the roof of the U of M Science and Engineering building, the roof of Game Informer, several apartment complexes (including two at UMD - Grigg's hall and another building - the one next to the science building, but I never had classes there - astronomy I think), and a few others.

    3. Re:Surface by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 2

      So an iPhone was dropped from 13,500ft and was destroyed. Why, again, does that make headlines?

    4. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      Yes. It depends on the surface on which it falls as well as its orientation. The story is not really surprising or all that interesting assuming one knows much of anything about physics. Many many flat objects, Vmax is frequently its saving grace.

    5. Re:Surface by JonySuede · · Score: 1

      What is that Vmax you are referring to ? For me it is a maximum voltage and in context that does not make sense.

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    6. Re:Surface by Idbar · · Score: 0

      The hardest thing could have hit on the fall, was Jobs' walled garden. Luckily, this one is in Cupertino, and fortunately, all Apple devices are protected with a surrounding distorting fields that may also soften the fall.

    7. Re:Surface by sloth+jr · · Score: 1

      FTA: found on top of a building.

    8. Re:Surface by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      the glass on the phone was completely shattered and the UI inoperable

      Must be a usage of the word "survived" that I was not previously aware of...

    9. Re:Surface by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Of course the UI isn't going to work, the front glass was shattered.

      I think it's interesting that not only would the phone still power up and receive calls, but the GPS was working too. I think that is a pertinent fact that in an emergency situation might be good to know.

    10. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 0

      Notice I said physics, not electronics. Do you honestly believe objects falling inside an atmosphere infinitely accelerate? Its the object's maximum velocity.

    11. Re:Surface by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Are you implying either or both of our former presidents are out of shape?

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    12. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We know you're trying really, really hard to be funny here...but please, just stop.

    13. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't it highly depend on the surface it lands on as well?
      I mean, a bathroom floor is pretty hard and solid, while, say, a bush could soften the blow quite significantly.

      The article says it landed on a building roof. I'd say that's a hard surface. And no, it wouldn't be Apple propaganda, because the first phone died from a crack on a bathroom floor - hardly 13k feet.

    14. Re:Surface by larppaxyz · · Score: 1

      Because Slashdot i no more what it used to be 5-10 years ago - news for nerds, intresting stuff.

    15. Re:Surface by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      Because its an Apple product. And in case you haven't notice, Apple has one of the best PR machines on the planet. Only a Steve Jobs-magnitude iReality Distortion Field could say that phone "survived". It'd be a bit like saying a man "survived" a fall if, despite being dead, all his bones were still intact.

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    16. Re:Surface by SilentStaid · · Score: 2

      Do you honestly believe objects falling inside an atmosphere infinitely accelerate?

      No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die.

    17. Re:Surface by Toam · · Score: 1

      Vterminal

    18. Re:Surface by brim4brim · · Score: 1

      How can you make a call or answer a call if the UI is inoperable though? My friend has an iPhone with a broken power button and she didn't drop it from a plane so what should be taken from this article is really that it depends what way it lands much like a person.

    19. Re:Surface by JonySuede · · Score: 1

      Do you honestly believe objects falling inside an atmosphere infinitely accelerate?

      No, I just honestly asked about what Vmax means. For all I know it could have meant maximum Vector or maximum Viscosity or maximum Vhatever.

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    20. Re:Surface by Fazed · · Score: 1

      `News for nerds, Stuff that matters'

    21. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you denying the GLORY of the body of the LORD, Steve Jobs?

    22. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's interesting that not only would the phone still power up and receive calls, but the GPS was working too. I think that is a pertinent fact that in an emergency situation might be good to know.

      Is it nice down there sucking Jobs' cock?

    23. Re:Surface by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      One where it can power up and the data is still recoverable, perhaps?

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    24. Re:Surface by Wovel · · Score: 1

      If you could read, you would know it could still make phone calls...

    25. Re:Surface by larppaxyz · · Score: 1

      Yes, i know that is the slogan. This article doesn't fit that category either.

    26. Re:Surface by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      From TFA:

      Even though the phone still makes and receives calls, it isn't very practical to do so because the touchscreen is shattered. IPhone users must use the gadget's screen to dial numbers and to answer incoming calls. The only way McKinney can use it is with a Bluetooth connection in his truck.

    27. Re:Surface by tommy2tone · · Score: 1

      the phone itself was useless, but the article goes on to say that the phone could receive phone calls still using blue tooth in the owners truck. The point was that the hardware inside the phone survived the shock of high speed impact even though the screen busted

    28. Re:Surface by Fazed · · Score: 1

      At least you spell checked your post this time! :P

    29. Re:Surface by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's a cell phone. Vmax is going to be extremely high: the large, flat side will provide wind resistance on a slope without a strong force backing it (indeed, as it falls it creates a slight vacuum... low pressure area above it), and unless it's perfectly flat and there is no wind it's going to rotate away from the pressure.

      If the phone is tilted clockwise, for example, then the wind coming up will be skewed to the left. This will put more pressure on the left: the air travels left, but there is air in the way, creating a high pressure area; as there is lower pressure on the other side of the inclined plane it's sliding up, it'll just rotate the plane in an attempt to head toward this low pressure area. Thus the phone rotates further clockwise until it is vertical. Now, since it's very thin on two sides and has a very wide rectangular face, it'll maintain this profile--its most aerodynamic orientation--as it falls and accelerates. It's not alive, it's not actively trying to flatten out and use itself as an air brake, like a cat.

      Caveat: the above was completely computed by building a closed universe in my head and running a full simulation. I've never studied physics and mostly get by with full scale simulations.

    30. Re:Surface by rednip · · Score: 1

      Agreed, I've owned iPhones since the first one and love it, but this fawning tale is a little too loose with it's presentation of facts. It surprised me on CNN.com but to see it on Slashdot, well, that's just sad.

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    31. Re:Surface by flaming+error · · Score: 1

      As rebuttals go, epic fail.

      1) Voltage is within the domain of Physics.
      2) He did not make any claim about infinite acceleration. Straw man.
      3) I've never heard of terminal velocity being expressed as "VMAX", and neither have the first ten pages of google results.

      It's ok to just answer somebody's question without twisting their words and insulting them. I don't understand your hostility.

    32. Re:Surface by surferx0 · · Score: 1

      3) I've never heard of terminal velocity being expressed as "VMAX", and neither have the first ten pages of google results.

      To be fair, this rebuttable was equally weak. Understandably Google has provided us with a large quantity of instant searchable information that we've come to rely on as our point of reference, but sometimes you just need to look at an actual book...

    33. Re:Surface by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      If you could read, you would know...

      Ironically your response will be of no use to him.

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    34. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      'News for people, wanna be nerds, largely stuff that doesn't matter.'

    35. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I can still ssh in, though!"

    36. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      There have been other stories of phones (IIRC, and iPhone and an Android) falling from great heights, both surviving fully intact. Those stories were both marginally interesting because of the fact they were undamaged aside from some minor scratches. This story is nothing but uninteresting and Apple fanboyism.

    37. Re:Surface by Altus · · Score: 1

      Well, it doesn't say if the button was still working but holding it down puts the phone into voice control mode which would allow you to make a call. The owner used the bluetooth in his truck to access it though, so maybe the button wasn't working (but the bluetooth was).

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    38. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but your rely is an epic fail given the context and reasonable intelligence.

      Frankly, your reply only underscores you inability to critically think.

      Because everyone knows a device falling is all about maximum voltages. Holy shit, I think you literally made everyone dumber for having read your post.

    39. Re:Surface by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

      Instead of insulting him with straw mans, perhaps you should simply explain to him without hostility that you've decided to use an unconventional and less specific maximum velocity abbreviation to describe terminal velocity. Also, even the most elementary physics class deals with both Newtonian motion and voltage so your "physics" specifier is not as helpful in determining the meaning of the acronym as you seem to believe it to be.

    40. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      It's a cell phone. Vmax is going to be extremely high: the large, flat side will provide wind resistance on a slope without a strong force backing it (indeed, as it falls it creates a slight vacuum... low pressure area above it), and unless it's perfectly flat and there is no wind it's going to rotate away from the pressure.

      Yes, and it will quickly reach its vMax (terminal velocity) despite it tumbling. Its just that its velocity will be slightly higher than as if it remained completely flat for the entire fall.

    41. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      In my text books, it was Vmax. Likely because Vterminal is needlessly longer.

    42. Re:Surface by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      However, the summary omits the fact that the phone had a protective case (and that the glass on the phone was completely shattered and the UI inoperable).

      Yes, looking at the picture I wouldn't exactly say it survived.

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    43. Re:Surface by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      Terminal velocity is what you want then. Sorry, just very jaded on slashdot these days as most people go out of their way to troll while being genuinely and playing ignorant.

    44. Re:Surface by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Yes, looking at the picture I wouldn't exactly say it survived.

      He can sync it with iTunes, get a new phone, and after a fresh sync be right back where he was just before he dropped it. If the phone hadn't 'survived' he'd likely be out several pictures etc.

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    45. Re:Surface by flaming+error · · Score: 1

      > sometimes you just need to look at an actual book..

      Are you suggesting that instead of asking a simple question, JonySuede should have visited a brick and mortar library/university and educated himself/herself in an unspecified field of study? Ok, "unspecified" could be reasonably guessed at - maybe aerodynamics, maybe roofing materials, maybe skydiving.

      I'm not convinced that calling my rebuttal "equally weak" is "being fair", but I'm an open-minded guy. Please explain the algorithm of when it's more appropriate to look at an unspecified book than to ask a slashdot commenter what he meant.

    46. Re:Surface by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      It's Apple's own fault, really. They should just get a license for Nintendium - it probably would have ended up working better after the fall. (And for those of you too lazy to click the article, it's of a Nintendo Gameboy that was hit by an explosive shell in the Gulf War and still works.

    47. Re:Surface by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      How does it make phone calls with the touch-screen smashed?

    48. Re:Surface by treeves · · Score: 1

      It could *receive* a call, but it could not initiate a call.

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    49. Re:Surface by flaming+error · · Score: 1

      If you're not trolling, you might consider therapy. I'm not trying to be rude or clever or ad hominem, I just think that "given the context" your vitriol makes no sense, and suggests you may suffer from a general unhappiness and a lack of balance. It doesn't have to be that way.

      Of course if you are just trolling, carry on and have a good time.

    50. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd. Imagine you fell on your face from 13500 feet, yet your brain was still functioning.

      Did you survive?

    51. Re:Surface by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming velocity. Although, IMLE, that's usually v_max.

      See, all my fellow STEMs were wrong when they said that Comp I was a waste of credits. Capitalization even matters in physics! :D

    52. Re:Surface by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      It's a kickass power cruiser from Yamaha from back in the 1980's.

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    53. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I never expected to see a comment like this. The originality is truly and utterly astounding.

    54. Re:Surface by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      So he should have said:

      If you WOULD read, you would know ...

      Engrish es soo haard.

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    55. Re:Surface by enjerth · · Score: 1

      Yes, people can die from falling in the bathroom and striking their head on a hard surface. It may even be a daily occurrence.

      And occasionally a skydiver may survive a fall where their parachute fails to deploy.

    56. Re:Surface by enjerth · · Score: 1

      (Replying to myself, I know.)

      Perhaps this requires a government funded study.

    57. Re:Surface by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      But I was paralyzed from the eyeballs down? Not sure...

    58. Re:Surface by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      The maximum surface exposure is what, 6 inches x 4 inches one way, 1/4 inch by 4 inches the other? And the surface is flat. That's 1/24 of the drag, roughly.

    59. Re:Surface by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      cool story bro

    60. Re:Surface by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

      Ok, so a circuit board inside a solid aluminum shell, inside a protective case, survived the fall... but as phone it was still useless - nobody in such a situation would wait to receive a call from 911, would they? Regardless, this should only be news if we can have 100 iPhones consistently survive a 13,500 foot drop, to prove that this wasn't a fluke from the phone cushioning its fall with a bird on the way down :)

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    61. Re:Surface by lastchance_000 · · Score: 1

      If the home button was still functional, voice dial could be used.

    62. Re:Surface by knappe+duivel · · Score: 1

      What is that Vmax you are referring to ? For me it is a maximum voltage and in context that does not make sense.

      V=vitesse=speed
      Vmax is maximum speed

    63. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no way you could receive a call. Read again what you typed: the front glass was shattered and the UI was inoperable. i.e. you won't be able to receive a call. Or make one. It didn't "survive" by any reasonable definition.

    64. Re:Surface by geekoid · · Score: 1

      assuming an infinitely thinning atmosphere? then yes ~

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    65. Re:Surface by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Read TFA.

    66. Re:Surface by geekoid · · Score: 1

      1) not in the domain of physics he was talking about..i.e. context.

      2) I know, right?

      3) Look for physics VMAX.

      You having weak google fu is in no way relevant to the discussion.

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    67. Re:Surface by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Or use google appropriately.

      vmax physics.

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    68. Re:Surface by geekoid · · Score: 1

      So you went out of your way to make an ignorant jabbed at the government. Stop it. The country is polarized enough and your not helping

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    69. Re:Surface by enjerth · · Score: 1

      We should all just get along then? We shouldn't object to government wasting taxpayer dollars?

      The idea that government is beyond reproach is ignorant, at best. And not addressing it's failings is silent approval.

      Get off your high horse.

    70. Re:Surface by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      My husband refuses to use the touch screen to initiate calls on his iPhone 4 and always uses the voice control (sometimes despite multiple false positives in the number selected - it would have been faster to look it up).

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    71. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Presumably "velocity."

    72. Re:Surface by Tukz · · Score: 1

      hah, I did not intend for that to happen, but now that you point it out, it's actually hilarious.
      +1 funny.

      (Your president isn't mine btw, but I still get the joke)

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  3. survived? by adamjcoon · · Score: 2

    Even though it may still make calls, as claimed in the article, I wouldn't go so far as to say it "survived..." Nobody would continue to use a phone in this condition..

    1. Re:survived? by Vectormatic · · Score: 2

      that's what i was thinking, the phone in the picture (and i actually clicked to TFA to verify it isnt the bathroom dropped one) looks absolutely unusable to me, even if it still powers up

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    2. Re:survived? by asdf7890 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      At least it is in a fit state for any information stored to be drawn off onto a replacement device though. That is certainly a bonus over not powering up at all.

    3. Re:survived? by DemonGenius · · Score: 1

      I think the most useful point drawn in the article is this:

      "It goes to show you if I crash land and need an ambulance, they can still track me down with the GPS"

      Useable? Hell, no. Survived? Yes, both you and the phone in the above situation.

    4. Re:survived? by DJRumpy · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to the article, he does continue to use it. He simply uses it via bluetooth in his truck.

      Even though it may still make calls, as claimed in the article, I wouldn't go so far as to say it "survived..." Nobody would continue to use a phone in this condition..

    5. Re:survived? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      That's like saying that you survived the guillotine because your heart continued to pump for a while, after your head was severed. You survived the guillotine, but you died from bleeding. If you can no longer operate the phone, it is for all intense and purposes dead.

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    6. Re:survived? by DemonGenius · · Score: 1

      Didn't you listen when I said "Useable? Hell no."? Your analogy is also deeply flawed and would make more sense if the iPhone 4 also went through a guillotine, which would break it beyond repair instantly, same effect as with a human being. However, people have survived falls from huge heights, just like this phone did, and both were mangled as a result. The key point here is that in this case, both can be repaired, whereas with the guillotine, both can not be repaired.

    7. Re:survived? by Servaas · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to the article, he does continue to use it. He simply uses it via bluetooth in his truck.

      I think my 12 year old nephew also tried that trick when he rammed his quad into my brother in law's car. "Yeah... but you can still open the door!!" It's a known trick all 12 year old learn.

    8. Re:survived? by Servaas · · Score: 1

      So as long a single chip survives we could "repair" it...

    9. Re:survived? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Yep.. it's a lame idea for an article. In other news, the titanic has survived sinking in the ocean because with only a few billion dollars it could be repaired.

    10. Re:survived? by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      Who do you think you are? Chev Chelios? Making a phone call while falling to earth, and then surviving to make a sequel.

    11. Re:survived? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      If it was you, and all your arms and legs where shattered, they would say you survived. How is this different?

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  4. Sponsored by Apple by dokc · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Sponsored by Apple" is missing at the end of the article.

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    1. Re:Sponsored by Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think this is the Jobs bowel movement article of the day.

    2. Re:Sponsored by Apple by AngryDeuce · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, I thought I was on CNN for a minute. They have their obligatory "Isn't Apple just great?!" articles daily.

    3. Re:Sponsored by Apple by AngryDeuce · · Score: 2

      LOL, didn't even check, but it is the CNN article. Gotta love it....

    4. Re:Sponsored by Apple by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if only we could hear about the new domains that Google just purchased instead.

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    5. Re:Sponsored by Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because Apple's famously hapless ad wizards love to seed stories that describe their product as "notoriously fragile" in the lead.

    6. Re:Sponsored by Apple by Little_Professor · · Score: 1

      Yep. These stories are always shill plants by PR firms. Shame a reputable news organization like CNN doesn't do some fact-checking to figure out this story is bogus

  5. Deja vu by xnpu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Didn't we have a similar story not too long ago?

    Anyway, I think the consensus at the time was that there's a difference between falling on a rock hard bathroom floor versus a bush or even grassland.

    1. Re:Deja vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, although I didn't find it. I believe it was some member of the military who accidentally dropped his phone from a plane and later found it using the tracking feature. AFAIK it wasn't damaged at all because he was using quite a beefy case.

    2. Re:Deja vu by slshwtw · · Score: 1

      there's a difference between falling on a rock hard bathroom floor versus a bush or even grassland.

      He found the gadget, its glass surfaces shattered, on top of a building about a half-mile away from where he landed with his parachute.

      Chances are it was a bit harder landing than grassland. However the phone did have a protective case, and was still quite banged up from the fall.

    3. Re:Deja vu by DJRumpy · · Score: 1

      The article states that the case itself was broken by the fall as well.

      From TFA:

      The iPhone had protective gear of its own -- an Incipio-brand phone case that was broken after the fall but still was on the phone.

    4. Re:Deja vu by Killerchronic · · Score: 1

      Yea there was another story like this its here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20046845-1.html

    5. Re:Deja vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't we have a similar story not too long ago?

      Anyway, I think the consensus at the time was that there's a difference between falling on a rock hard bathroom floor versus a bush or even grassland.

      IDK: My iphone 3G survived a hard throw at point blank range into drywall. I INTENDED to break it. The phone didn't even get a scratch and left a very conspicuous dent in the wall.

    6. Re:Deja vu by recharged95 · · Score: 1

      WTF on these iPhones commercials?

      I've had exposed PCBs fall into 20feet of water and still work after a good drying. From that picture in TFA, I say that phone is un-usable--like is he going to to continue to use that phone for the next year? Mind that the next week? I doubt it. OK, the phone boots up to the main screen, etc.. but why don't they show the front of the phone. I'm sure you can't read anything, nor touch from that shattered screen--doesn't work in my book.

      I doubt if it will sync as well. He's probably one of the typical that forgot to sync/backup in the last week.

  6. Well, of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It can survive a fall from 13k feet, but not a two-year-old. And all the parents say, "Par for the course."

  7. Re:Nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot? Anti-Apple? I'd say the Apple fan demographics outnumbers the non-Apple fan one here. :(

  8. Cracked screen.. yep It's an iPhone alright.. by EasyTarget · · Score: 1

    And in case you are thinking 'Of course it's bl***y cracked, it fell from thousands of feet' I would point you to the TFA where he notes it had a cracked screen -before- the accident, which just made it worse.

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    1. Re:Cracked screen.. yep It's an iPhone alright.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calling the end result of this latest fall "cracked" is like calling my previous car that was rear-ended "dented". Sure, there was a dent on the trunk before... the rear-ending just made that dent worse.

      And technically yes, my car did start up after once you hit the gas cutoff switch to reset that. And it still drove... which I took directly to Autopac.

      So yes, it still ran, but a write-off is still a write-off. Same applies to this phone. If it powers up... guess what, it's still a write-off.

  9. Terminal Velocity by DiademBedfordshire · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm no physicist but wouldn't something small like an iphone hit terminal velocity very quickly?

    1. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's still a pretty fast speed to hit the ground at. I think the main factor is how hard the surface that it falls on is.

    2. Re:Terminal Velocity by witch-doktor · · Score: 1

      It's more density than pure size. I would think that electronics are quite dense (and apple products go for heavy cases on top of that). So I would think that the terminal vel for such things are higher and attained later than for a similarly sized object like a pencil case or box of chocolates and so on.

    3. Re:Terminal Velocity by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Nearly all objects will hit terminal velocity within a few hundred feet, but they don't have the same terminal velocity. The back of this here envelope says an iPhone should fall at very roughly 1/3 the speed of a human body. If a skydiver "drops" it, it will actually decelerate and he will see it going up relative to him -- until he opens his parachute and it whistles past him.

      rj

    4. Re:Terminal Velocity by Swanktastic · · Score: 3, Funny

      A better story:

      Careless Skydiver Killed by His Own iPhone

    5. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anomalyst · · Score: 2

      whistles past him

      To the tune of "Dixie":
      I wish I was in Jobs walled garden
      Ol' times dere am not forgotten
      Lookee down, lookee down, lookee down
      Crappple fanboi!

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    6. Re:Terminal Velocity by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

      The back of this here envelope says an iPhone should fall at very roughly 1/3 the speed of a human body. ...

      The rule of thumb for skydivers is that terminal velocity in the flat stable position is about 120 mph, reached after 9 seconds of free fall. This would put the iPhone's terminal velocity at about 40 mph, which ought to provide some perspective about the magnitude of the impact.

    7. Re:Terminal Velocity by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      How did you determine that? The smallest profile is what will face into the air resistance by nature; it takes energy to rotate out to resist...

    8. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. OH WOW IT FELL OUT OF A PLANE. It should've read "iPhone 4 User falls out of plane and .."

    9. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There must be a speed logging app out there... any volunteers for an iphone terminal velocity experiment?

    10. Re:Terminal Velocity by MadCow42 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I used to skydive and the general rule of thumb was that you'd hit terminal velocity in about 12 seconds, during which time you'd cover 1200 feet and accellerate to about 120mph, if you were "flat flying" (i.e. on your belly). "Free Flying" in a sitting position or head down would take slightly longer (and cover more distance) because you get up as fast as 180mph in those positions.

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    11. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      Acceleration due to gravity is constant. Your only variable affecting terminal velocity is air resistance. Unless the skydiver was indeed diving (tucked and streamlined to minimize drag) there is no way in hell that an iPhone 1/100th of the size of a human body is going to fall slower a person. Even considering that the iPhone has no equilibrium and no way to arrest any spin it may have, the Magnus Effect would only account for the path taken as falling to the ground, certainly not for it falling slower than it should. If anything the spinning motion could become great enough to create a boundary layer that would further decrease the amount of drag on the phone.

    12. Re:Terminal Velocity by SirCyn · · Score: 1

      Size has no bearing, except that it helps to determine the friction coefficient of moving through another material. Almost anything dropped from that height would reach terminal velocity quickly, and I would imagine an iPhone's is quite high. Also, as others have pointed out, the rate of deceleration upon impact determines the damage to the phone (as the saying goes: speed doesn't kill; acceleration does). Various substances provide different deceleration times. Hitting a rubber roof would be significantly less damaging than a cement sidewalk.

    13. Re:Terminal Velocity by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not so. A falling object will not assume a minimum-drag attitude unless it's aerodynamically stable. An arrow, yes. A badminton thingie, yes. A box, no, unless its center of mass is in just the right place. A skydiver can shape himself into a stable object for minimum drag, but an unconscious person will fall in something close to a maximum drag position. And a bullet will stay in the minimum drag attitude only as long as its rifling spin lasts: in a prolonged fall, it will go into a flat-spin mode which is the maximum drag condition.

      When you say "It takes energy...", keep in mind that a high-speed air flow can giveth energy as well as taketh it away, and that energy couples into rotational motion in very complicated ways.

      For an iPhone, the max drag condition would be horizontal; I just assumed an area of half what that would be. It would probably tumble, which would present about that much drag area.

      rj

    14. Re:Terminal Velocity by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Oh, jeez...

      In the terminal velocity condition the acceleration is zero. The velocity is equal to SQRT(2*W/(Rho*Cd*A)), where W=weight, Rho=air density, Cd=drag coefficient (a function of shape) and A=area presented to the airstream. Run the numbers.

      Or, you could just try dropping a rock and a leaf.

      rj

    15. Re:Terminal Velocity by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Size has no bearing

      Terminal velocity is proportional to the square root of the weight and inversely proportional to the square root of the area presented to the airstream, among other things.

      rj

    16. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a horrific clause. Don't ever try to sound "old timey" ever again.

      a high-speed air flow can giveth energy as well as taketh it away

      Only the auxiliary 'can' has person agreement with the subject. The main verbs must be in the infinitive in Old English, New English, and everything in between.

    17. Re:Terminal Velocity by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Zu befehl.

      rj

  10. Very silly story by assantisz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This phone may still be able to make calls but would anybody in his/her right mind say the phone "survived" the fall? Look at it. Also, one snippet from the linked article: That's especially amazing since the iPhone 4 can suffer from cell reception issues. When the Apple smartphone debuted in 2010, a saga the tech media called Antennagate followed. Consumer watchdogs claimed a design flaw on the phone's antenna caused it to drop calls unexpectedly. Apple gave out free phone cases to address the issue. Whoever wrote this garbage did not know what he was writing about. Why is this on slashdot again?

    1. Re:Very silly story by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      This phone may still be able to make calls but would anybody in his/her right mind say the phone "survived" the fall?

      If it works, it "survived." If a person fell out of a plane with no chute, hit the ground sustaining massive injuries but wound up living - that person survived the fall.

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    2. Re:Very silly story by SpeedyG5 · · Score: 1

      I think its a planted story from competitors to bring back the antennagate issue. I can't otherwise explain the preoccupation with that part of the story. its hardly a success story for a fall at best its freakish that it would survive and no would would expect it would pass. On the other hand mine did not survive its recent transgression into a heavy H2O atmosphere and the Apple Store replaced it without even a fuss. Which is more likely to happen, a fall while sky diving or a drop in the drink.

    3. Re:Very silly story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, but do you honestly think he'll keep his iphone?

      If a person fell out of a plane with no chute, hit the ground sustaining massive injuries and was subsequently euthanized because of those injuries, did they survive the fall?
       

    4. Re:Very silly story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      >Why is this on slashdot again?

      Hey, it's either this or an endless stream of lulzsec/Anonymous promotion. Pick your poison.

    5. Re:Very silly story by Altus · · Score: 1

      I might replace the screen, but I would probably keep a phone that survived a fall like that.

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    6. Re:Very silly story by aztektum · · Score: 1

      I was all set to moderate a few posts and then I saw your comment.

      Why is this on slashdot again?

      Sometimes I think CmdrTaco & the rest of the /. crew do this on purpose. They're smart, they realize the phone isn't useable and this is sensationalist shit. I picture them laughing and saying something like "I have to post this." because it's just... dumb.

      It's geeks having a laugh at the non-geeks, rather than the other way around.

      Then again I could be wrong.

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    7. Re:Very silly story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If my car is rear-ended but still runs, it's still written off and I need a new one. It didn't survive the rear-ending, because it's WRITTEN THE FUCK OFF!

      This cellphone didn't survive. It still powers on yes, but it's still WRITTEN OFF AND A NEW ONE IS NEEDED! That is NOT "survived". That's "holy jesus, throw that shit away". Yes, the article says he still uses it via bluetooth... but guess what, in a severely, SEVERELY limited way... just like trying to drive a car that's been severely rear-ended. Sure, it still moves... the back tires don't quite so good, and will likely blow out due to the sliding, there's no rear lights, the back doors don't open, and anything in the trunk is destroyed. But the engine still physically turned over, so that MUST mean the car survived!

      Sooner or later (sooner being the far more likely), you'll realize you're driving/phoning with the equivilant of a vegetable barely existing on life support, and you're going to have to pull that plug eventually.

    8. Re:Very silly story by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 1

      Thanks for pointing out that part of the article; that part really bugs me because it has nothing to do with the article. Where was the editor on this story? The article seems like it's pro-Apple until you start to read it closely - that "Antennagate" part and the "iPhone 4 -- a notoriously fragile device" statement. Both are inflammatory but at least the "fragile device" statement has some relevance to the story (although it's wrong to call the iPhone "notoriously fragile").

    9. Re:Very silly story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The person in your story continues to live. This phone however, will probably be going in the trash - so it would be more appropriate to say it received mortal injuries from the fall.

  11. How is that "surviving"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think I know a single person that would qualify that as "surviving" the fall. The phone is destroyed beyond any reasonable use.

    Of course, one can expect a fair amount of denial in such cases; after all, the loss of an Apple product is often a very emotionally tumultuous time for Apple fanboys. I hear they even have support groups now.

  12. a skydiver dropping things by kubitus · · Score: 1

    should absent from this sport as he endangers other living beings!

  13. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I use to work for a skydiving company, we've had a few Nokia's survive these sorts of incidents even if we only found half of them, they all rang when we called them, the one's we did find we're usually just scratched or had plastic from the corner of the case has come off. You hear these stories all the time with many various small devices, so this is either a fanboi article about how good the iPhone is or it's a flamebait article about how amazing that an Apple product actually survived a fall for once, either way no one cares.

  14. Fall off of a Harley by repetty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My daughter's iPhone 4 fell out of her back pocket when she was riding a Harley. She didn't realize it until she reached her destination; then her husband took off to look for it. He found it laying in a busy road, with tire marks on it.

    It was fine.

    "a notoriously fragile device" is anti-fanboy hyperbole.

    1. Re:Fall off of a Harley by lymond01 · · Score: 2

      I've dropped my phone running across the street, on the bathroom floor, etc. It has a slight scuff on the metal edging (I have a 3GS). Glass is completely unmarred and all I had was a thin plastic surround. My boss has broken two by sitting on them while they were in her back pocket. It just sort of depends on how it falls, how it takes its damage. I wouldn't call the phone fragile though -- I doubt many of the less expensive plastic phones would survive a fall onto pavement regardless of the landing.

    2. Re:Fall off of a Harley by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      Either it was in a strong case, or the "busy road" was made of marshmallows, because that story reeks of bs. Or by "fine" you mean "was still working, but was cracked to hell and back." There's a reason why Apple made the back of the iPhone 4 glass -- it's so they have a fragile, yet easily replaceable part you have to buy from them when it inevitably breaks.

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    3. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>it's so they have a fragile, yet easily replaceable part you have to buy from them when it inevitably breaks.

      [CITATION NEEDED]

    4. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My daughter's iPhone 4 fell out of her back pocket when she was riding a Harley. She didn't realize it until she reached her destination; then her husband took off to look for it. He found it laying in a busy road, with tire marks on it.

      It was fine.

      "a notoriously fragile device" is anti-fanboy hyperbole.

      A literal majority of the iPhone 4 owners I know have dealt with shattered glass causes by a sub-meter drop onto a hard surface, and none of them were riding a moving vehicle at the time. One was dropped from a pocket while sitting on a stationary motorcycle, and yes, it was shattered front and back.

      Maybe Harleys have special iPhone protecting fields, or maybe we should remember that a single survived drop doesn't have any meaning.

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    5. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's so they have a fragile, yet easily replaceable part you have to buy from them when it inevitably breaks.

      I don't know how the Apple Stores itself handles these, but AASPs and mobile repairs in other countries aren't allowed to buy the parts from Apple itself. So any 'repair' you're offered is a replacement unit. I suspect Apple does the same thing, but I don't know.

    6. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      I've dropped my phone running across the street, on the bathroom floor, etc. It has a slight scuff on the metal edging (I have a 3GS). Glass is completely unmarred and all I had was a thin plastic surround. My boss has broken two by sitting on them while they were in her back pocket. It just sort of depends on how it falls, how it takes its damage. I wouldn't call the phone fragile though -- I doubt many of the less expensive plastic phones would survive a fall onto pavement regardless of the landing.

      Plastic phones take a lot more abuse than fragile glass phones. My old RAZR and older Nokia survived a dozen drops that would have probably shattered a recent iPhone. Rigid aluminum and glass = fragile. Good flexible plastic body = durable.

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    7. Re:Fall off of a Harley by alex67500 · · Score: 1

      You obviously have a boss with a rock-hard ass. Can you share a few pics of her? Just for future reference of course...

    8. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      I've never dropped my phone, lost my phone, left it behind or anything like that. My phone is important to me, and not just an expensive toy. I'm simply amazed at the number of applications for finding a lost phone, having it ring you when you send a txt, email you with its GPS location when lost etc.

      Chances are, all these people are the same ones texting while driving.

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    9. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My daughter's iPhone 4 fell out of her back pocket when she was riding a Harley. She didn't realize it until she reached her destination; then her husband took off to look for it. He found it laying in a busy road, with tire marks on it.

      It was fine.

      "a notoriously fragile device" is anti-fanboy hyperbole.

      Amazing! I didn't know iPhones are compatible with Harleys!

    10. Re:Fall off of a Harley by thoromyr · · Score: 1, Redundant

      trolls and all that, but... that's nice "a literal majority of the iphone 4 owners" you know: how many is that, one? I drop my phones all the time. Repeatedly. Often from about two meters. I have *never* had glass shatter on either a 3G or a 4. My work provided iPhone 3G is carried in a front pocket with keys. The back is scratched and pitted from damage, the glass is just fine.

      My wife's 3G *did* have the glass spider spectacularly from a short fall. I should probably mention that was after two years of carrying it in a hip pocket which resulted in significant stress on the device every time she sat down. It seems probable that all of the accumulated stress had something to do with the glass shattering.

      Notoriously fragile? To you, maybe, in your little world. Where I work everyone is provided with a smart phone, almost all of them are iPhones (even the Apple haters prefer them for some reason, only a few die-hard Microsoft lovers persist with Windows mobile, the majority of non-iPhone devices are Android). The Apple haters crowed about the supposed reception problems of the iPhone 4, but not a single one claims that the iPhone is "notoriously fragile".

      Perhaps you should re-read the definition for "notorious"

    11. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Wovel · · Score: 1

      You lied, thanks for playing. If not, a literal majority of people you know are morons.

    12. Re:Fall off of a Harley by MrHanky · · Score: 2

      "+5, interesting" for coming up with a story in which the iGadget survived.

    13. Re:Fall off of a Harley by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      The relative rigidity of an iPhone 4, while being a disadvantage when landing after a fall, might work in its favour when it comes to being run over by a tyre. And Harleys are pretty close to the ground.

    14. Re:Fall off of a Harley by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      I suspect that Apple do this as well. My brother took his iPhone 4 into an Apple Store when the lock button stopped working, and he claims that they replaced it with a 'new' (although probably refurbished) phone.

    15. Re:Fall off of a Harley by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's shiny. If it's shiny you will buy it. Clean water is shiny, and clean water is less likely to be toxic, so shiny things are intrinsically and instinctively valuable because they remind us of life and survival. If you put Brita filtered tap water into two different glasses and give them to women, whichever glass is shinier will inevitably have the best tasting water. Men are less reliable with this, but over a large amount of samples it's still pretty significant, up in the 60-70% range .. 90-95% for women.

      The Apple Store is made of polished glass, and everything inside is god damn Jesus.

    16. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, you have anecdotes like my friends who together have gone through 8 iphones since v.3... it breaks a lot

    17. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I regularly ejaculate on my iPhone 4, but it's still working like a champ.

    18. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had my iphone 4 dropped into the sink, full submerged in water for couple of seconds - still works like a charm.

    19. Re:Fall off of a Harley by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Rigid aluminum and glass = fragile

      Not necessarily. I've dropped my iPhone4 onto concrete and wood surfaces before without any damage. There was ONE time I dropped it onto concrete and it cracked - but that was because it hit exactly on the corner maximizing the force applied to the glass... even then it was a single crack across 1/4 the screen, and worked fine otherwise.

      Apple replaced it for free though so it didn't matter.

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    20. Re:Fall off of a Harley by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      Wrong. The glass is aluminosilicate ("gorilla glass") and more flexible and lighter than plastic of the same specs.

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    21. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Altus · · Score: 1

      It gets the customer out of the store faster and keeps them happy, plus they take his phone, refurb it and give it to the next guy with a problem.

      Makes sense to me.

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    22. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was pink harley. Color makes all the difference.

    23. Re:Fall off of a Harley by repetty · · Score: 1

      Either it was in a strong case, or the "busy road" was made of marshmallows, because that story reeks of bs. Or by "fine" you mean "was still working, but was cracked to hell and back."

      Sorry to call your bullshit on my bullshit but the story is true and not embellished. And by fine, I fucking mean "perfect."

      Hold you nose, I guess.

    24. Re:Fall off of a Harley by repetty · · Score: 1

      Lotta "maybe's," hater.

      It might come as a consolation that her first iPhone WAS destroyed by a 1-year old kid sucking on it.

      Sorry if this story ruined your perception of the world.

    25. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Scott+Aaron · · Score: 1

      Good to hear that there is no damage to the iPhone. Let me know whether Harley has any iPhone protecting shield?

    26. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I own an iPhone 4 and within days it had several deep scratches across the screen. I keep it in my pocket with the screen against my leg and nothing else in my pocket. My 3G S, after being dropped, scraped on pavement, etc, was without a scratch. Didn't Steve say the screen on the 4 is as hard as emerald or some nonsense?

      I'm neither a fanboy nor an "anti-fanboy," but this article is a bunch of hype. The device is much more fragile than its predecessor, and I'm disappointed overall. I'm torn on whether to get the next iPhone that comes out or to switch to a nice Android phone. Leaning towards the latter because of how disappointed I am with the iPhone 4.

    27. Re:Fall off of a Harley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd imagine dropping it from moving bike would make it more likely to survive since the forward motion decreases the angle at which it impacts the ground.

  15. hardly by slshwtw · · Score: 2

    1. The glass was completely shattered, the only reason they say it "survived" was that it could still receive a phone call, and he could only make a call by using the bluetooth connection in his truck (also the GPS worked which is how they found the phone).
    2. The phone had a protective case (not pictured in the article), so you can't solely credit the device itself.
    3. As he found the phone on top of a building within half a mile of his landing point, he was apparently skydiving in a populated area. He's lucky the article title isn't "Innocent bystander doesn't survive iPhone 4 fall from skydiver's pocket".

  16. Hawk vision... by ccguy · · Score: 1

    He found the gadget [...] on top of a building about a half-mile away from where he landed with his parachute.

    This, from TFA seems much more newsworthy.

    By the way, the tag 'yeahright' is missing.

    1. Re:Hawk vision... by slshwtw · · Score: 1

      They found it using the phone's GPS, not by using superhero powers. RTFA again please.

    2. Re:Hawk vision... by ccguy · · Score: 1

      Well, if you can see a slashdot ready RTFA *twice* (even if one he didn't pay attention) you're definitely going to make the news yourself soon :-)

  17. Terminal velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop it from 100 km I don't think it matters after a while. Is there an app for aerodynamic heating protection?

  18. Solid state devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, once i dropped my gameboy.

    This is a real article, for sure, it's not like slashdot is falling for some dumb shit viral marketing about how tough iPhones are.

  19. I bet . . . by CruelKnave · · Score: 1

    it was while he was sitting in the plane.

  20. Happens fairly often by Leebert · · Score: 1

    This sort of thing happens fairly often, actually.

    There's a video on Youtube of a helmet cam getting knocked off at the door:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKN-pNQW-Pk

    The guy picking it up was priceless funny to me.

  21. 7 digit id guy getting tired by mescobal · · Score: 1

    I have a 7 digit ID and I'm getting tired of these things. Poor 6 digit guys! Are we really getting short of worthy news?

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    1. Re:7 digit id guy getting tired by michael_cain · · Score: 1

      I'm a five-digit guy. On balance, Slashdot is still worth scanning. The frequency of worthless articles like this one is certainly no worse than most other news aggregation sites.

    2. Re:7 digit id guy getting tired by mescobal · · Score: 1

      That's why i'm still here. The other reason might be related to cognitive dissonance that makes me justify my own choices. But I agree with you.

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  22. Any solid device. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    the iPhone is fairly solid state, Not to many buttons the only real moving part is the vibrate.All the parts are packaged quite tightly. So yes it can survive a fall from a skydivers pocket. The droids may too... However many of them are using molded and glued/snapped in plastic cases, which could break a lot easier spreading parts around. The iPhone is mostly steel and glass so for most cases the glass will break but the parts should still work...

    as an iPhone owner it is a no big deal. There are higher end droids that can survive the fall too.

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  23. Oh the joy. by Ross+R.+Smith · · Score: 1

    I'd be happier if it could survive a ~5ft fall without cracking - I don't think many people plan on skydiving with a phone.

    I also don't see how it 'survived' - it exists, yes, but I doubt it will function to an appropriate level of being able to phone/do anything useful whatsoever.

    1. Re:Oh the joy. by erroneus · · Score: 1

      Yes, those "dropped calls" are pretty annoying right?

  24. bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am calling bullshit on this one, CNN selling out to apple as usual

  25. Its a freak accident nothing more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People have survived falls from skydives when their chutes or backup chutes didnt open. That doesnt mean every person that jumps out of a plane can live from a free fall with no parachute.

  26. I obviously don't drop it from high enough by accessbob · · Score: 1

    A mere 3 feet off the floor does it for me.

  27. He's a selfish asshole by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2

    You pack things like your telephone in the lockers before you go up. As far as I'm concerned, he should be hit with the same penalties as a drunk driver for endangering lives.

    1. Re:He's a selfish asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You pack things like your telephone in the lockers before you go up. As far as I'm concerned, he should be hit with the same penalties as a drunk driver for endangering lives.

      I had the same reaction. Look at the skydiver's first reaction upon realizing that he let a potentially deadly hunk of metal, glass and plastic fall to the ground at high speed outside of the landing area (ie. in a neighboring area where any passerby might have been struck):

      "I was actually really bumming because I've lost a phone in the past and I usually just have a ton of photos and videos of my kids on the phone," he said.

      If it had been me that had lost something hard/heavy like that from such a height I would've been freaking out that I'd hurt someone.

    2. Re:He's a selfish asshole by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Maybe he has a better handle on probability than you?

      Or a lower value on other people.

  28. But can it generate bitcoins? by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

    To complete the slashvertisement paradigm.

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    1. Re:But can it generate bitcoins? by formfeed · · Score: 1

      To complete the slashvertisement paradigm.

      But correlation is not causation!

      -there you go,
      happy now?

  29. what if skydivers dropped items that killed people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how would this article have ended if that phone drifted into a populated area and hit someone in the head?

    I think it's criminally irresponsible not to have that phone tethered to him when skydiving.

  30. Is this the correct time to say it? by erroneus · · Score: 1

    "You're holding it wrong!"

  31. First of all. by trum4n · · Score: 1

    No it didn't. It was useless. Also, OLD NEWS IS OLD.

  32. Phone looks dead to me by cvtan · · Score: 2

    Maybe in Appleland this counts as "surviving a fall", but in the Panasonic Toughbook neighborhood this phone is deceased or at least pining for the fjords. Maybe some people would like to carry around a pile of broken glass in their pocket; I'll pass.

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  33. My old motorola by jjeffries · · Score: 1

    My ancient motorola flip-phone has survived several bicycle crashes, being thrown through an interior wall, plenty of rain and sweat, and I once lost it in a mall parking lot in the winter where it got buried in snow for a week, then later found by someone and turned in to the local cops, where it and I were eventually reunited. Still works great.

  34. Who cares? by zbharucha · · Score: 1

    It's not like every iPhone 4 is going to survive a fall from 13500 feet. Posts like this should be banned on /.

  35. Dropped my budget Xperia X8... by brim4brim · · Score: 1

    Down a staircase from top to bottom in a pub that went to the toilets. It was a tiled staircase. The back cover came off, popped it back on and not a scratch on the phone. I also dropped it one night in a pub and sent it a web text the next day saying if found return to my address and later that day someone popped by with it apologizing saying they don't know how they ended up with it.

  36. Re:what if skydivers dropped items that killed peo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to break out the ballistics gel!

  37. It's opposite day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The phone "survived", if by "survived", you mean "broke". Just like Macs are "cheap" and "powerful" and "a good value", and Linux is "easy to use", and Windows Me was "stable enough for release".

  38. Launched from a Cannon by VortexCortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    My commanding officer's iPhone4 accidentally fell down the loaded barrel of an M1-Abrams Tank. He didn't find it until AFTER it was fired from the barrel -- It smashed through a brick wall, decapitated 42 terrorists, then ricocheted off of a Nexus-S and a Kin (destroying them both). We found it embedded in a granite counter-top with bits of skull and a congressional medal of honor on it.

    It was fine.

    1. Re:Launched from a Cannon by teh+kurisu · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously false. Nobody bought a Kin.

    2. Re:Launched from a Cannon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My commanding officer's iPhone4 accidentally fell down the loaded barrel of an M1-Abrams Tank. He didn't find it until AFTER it was fired from the barrel -- It smashed through a brick wall, decapitated 42 terrorists, then ricocheted off of a Nexus-S and a Kin (destroying them both). We found it embedded in a granite counter-top with bits of skull and a congressional medal of honor on it.

      It was fine.

      False comparison. There was no two-year old involved with the Abrams.

    3. Re:Launched from a Cannon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your commander is Chuck Norris?

  39. Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesnt sounds like a professional jumper to me. Dude coulda killed someone on the ground!

    www.web-anon-tools.us.tc

  40. HP Deskjet 500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone is still cheap crap compared to electronics of yesteryear. I have an HP Deskjet 500 that still works today and it was dropped down several flights of dorm stairs by a friend helping me move in, down basement steps, fallen out of a moving car (don't ask), and had beer and other things spilled on it multiple times. It refuses to die. Other old HP and IBM gear from the 80s I have is the same. Now I can't get a printer from HP that lasts for more than a few months before either becoming too expensive due to the ink or just starts sucking or doing weird stuff.

    I've already had 3 iPhones die on me for the stupidest reasons, no of which were my fault, but Apple finds ways of not agreeing to the warranty. For example, everyone in the beach town I live in has had problems with iPhones not charging because there is "moisture" in the air and this has caused the charge port to oxidize. There's a fucking ocean, duh. Apple has decided though we must be swimming with our phones.

  41. Fake also leave your iphone at home. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fake; also trendy hipster skydivers might want to consider leaving their iphones at home before they kill someone.

  42. Other phones by Meneth · · Score: 1

    Most non-touchscreen phones would have survived with their screens intact.

  43. This isn't surviving by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Fuckign slashvertisement. Goddamned shame on you samzenpus. Time for the retirement home, you've lost your mental faculties.

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    1. Re:This isn't surviving by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      you've lost your mental faculties.

      They probably fell out of his pocket while skydiving from13,500 ft (~4114 meters).

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    2. Re:This isn't surviving by justsayin · · Score: 1

      Saying they lost their faculties implies that they actually possessed faculties at some point.

  44. Wasn't destroyed by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The phone still worked - they found it using "Find my iPhone" which requires it be on and operational, also when they called it rang... it's just that the touchscreen was broken..

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    1. Re:Wasn't destroyed by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Electronics can survive literally being shot out of a canon. A little-known secret is that you have to do practically nothing to harden modern electronics against high g-forces. It's not that hard - since they're extremely lightweight with no moving parts, COTS electronics can usually survive in excess of a hundred g. If the circuit board didn't flex enough to snap, I would expect any piece of consumer electronics this small to survive a fall at terminal velocity.

  45. Tracking an object that small at 13,500 feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My first question is how did they know where to look? Having jumped out of a few planes myself, I for one can say it'd be just as lucky for someone to find an object that small as it would be for the phone to survive its impact.

    Now if the guy was "Under Canopy" when it dropped he'd have a better idea where to look. But while it happens often enough most divers don't "Hop and Pop" at 13.5... They like freefall for as long as possible, opening between 1 & 2000 feet.

    My point is I don't believe the phone fell from 13.5, its VERY unlikely he'd have seen where it fell from that height. Tracking apps aside.

    Never the less, good on Apple for making one phone, of the millions out there, that "survived" a fall. The fanboys can rejoice in the fact that they have yet another one up on everyone else. Because obviously no one else has ever dropped a different phone from a plane and had it "Survive". I'm neither suprised by this appearing in todays media, nor am I suprised an electronic device survived a fall, when humans have done the same. Big deal...

    1. Re:Tracking an object that small at 13,500 feet by justsayin · · Score: 1

      Some sort of GEO locator app on the phone. The phone was still powered up and giving away it's position.

  46. same happened to me by formfeed · · Score: 1

    Except it wasn't an iPhone but my kitchen phone, and it didn't fall out of my pocket while sky diving but off the wall while diving for ice cream in the freezer.
    Oh, there's a difference: At no point could my stupidity have killed anyone else.

    (And, yes the phone did survive the fall.)

  47. Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still more impressed by the phone that stopped a bullet.

  48. So ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... the Reality Distortion Field works on gravity too.

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  49. It did operate by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    He could make calls using a bluetooth headset. Although not fully operational, it did still work as a phone.

    That is not dead, it is crippled...

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  50. Survives? by Stele · · Score: 1

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  51. iAltimeter by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    I assume it he also used free-range airplane and fair trade parachute. #Hipster

  52. Don't Panic by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the iPhone 4 as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the iPhone 4 had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of Steve Jobs' reality distortion field than we know today.

    1. Re:Don't Panic by justsayin · · Score: 1

      It's kind of sad but I know exactly where that quote came from. Whale, wasn't it?

  53. That phone may have only days to live by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My friend's iPhone 3GS dropped onto a sidewalk. The front screen shattered, but the phone was fully functional.. for two days. Then it stopped working. I'd like to see how long this guy's lasts.

  54. Has happened before by kimvette · · Score: 1

    We have a short memory on /. - this happened a few months ago with another aviation mishap when Ron Walker dropped his iPhone from 1000'

    http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/03/24/1145245/IPhone-4-Survives-1000-Foot-Fall-From-Plane

    At 1,000' it has come close to terminal velocity, hasn't it? So, whether 1,000' or 13,500' it's just a matter of what kind of surface it lands on, and how the phone happens to land.

    Ever since that original article though I've stopped worrying about dropping my phone - by chance I happened to choose that same Griffin "DiamondClear" case after I bought my iPhone and Apple was still giving them (the cases) away.

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  55. How to make a rugged phone by Animats · · Score: 1

    There's a good selection of phones available which meet military ruggedness standards. Motorola's DEFY phone, which runs Android, is a full-face touch screen ruggedized phone. It has roughly the same form factor as an iPhone. It's also water-resistant. (If the inductive-charging people would get their act together and standardize, phones could be connectorless and sealed, which would be a win.)

    That uses Corning "Gorilla Glass", which is reasonably rugged and scratch resistant. The next step up would be sapphire over polycarbonate. ("Will assist in reduction of vehicle weight without compromising ballistic performance")

  56. Yeah, they can be pretty tough... by MrMacman2u · · Score: 1

    Mine was run over and smashed to a pulp by a GMC Sierra 1500 and it still (kinda) worked. When I plugged it in it was recognized as an iPhone in recovery mode!

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  57. Drove over my 3GS and it looked like that by tipo159 · · Score: 1

    My 3GS slipped out of my pocket as I got in and out of my car to confirm it would fit in the space that I was backing into. After I ran it over (in a smart car), the touch screen looked like the one that fell from the skydiver's pocket. I hooked it up to iTunes and it sync'ed fine. I am an app developer and was able to hook it up to the dev tools and check out the console (not as many errors from the broken parts of the phone as I expected) and I still experiment with it. Unfortunately, the touch screen and digitizer unit cost about $90 and a new 3GS (with contract) was $49, so it wasn't worth repairing. But it was a great opportunity to open up a phone and see how it is put together. Even though the touch screen glass, being glass, is fragile, the rest of the phone seems pretty robust. But I imagine that other smart phones are just as robust.

  58. I wouldn't call that "survives" by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    All it takes is something soft.. I've known people to lose a cellphone out of a pocket on a motorbike at 150kph only to find it relatively unscathed in a patch of grass. However reading TFA and seeing the picture, that phone hardly "survived" even if it does make calls.

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  59. Fanbois unite. by justsayin · · Score: 1

    Well, with all that sharp glass you could use it to shave. See, it never dies only morphs into a new item you can still use.

  60. Nokia by justsayin · · Score: 1

    Hell, I had a Nokia one piece phone back around 2001 that got ran over by a Ford F-350 which was towing a horse trailer with horses in it at the time. All the tires on one side of that rig ground this poor Nokia into the freshly spread white rock gravel. I know cause I had just finished building that entrance to the barn. I barely got finished before the new arrival for my sisters boarding facility arrived. I helped them unload the horse which probably stepped on the phone too for all I know. Then we got that mare settled into her stall and had a bottle of wine, or 3. Went home around midnight and wondered where my phone was. Backtracked back to the barn entrance and started calling the Nokia. Sure enough I heard my ring. Dug it out of the gravel and answered the call. Face plate was cracked and I fixed it by borrowing a body and a used screen. My buddy did phone repair and sales at the time and I could get parts cheap. So, to say it survived? No way. It did however answer and make calls.

    The Iphone in this story is junk. It did not survive. Still functional somewhat but give it to a customer and say "here's your phone". See what they say.

  61. Seen one in the Gents by Kittenman · · Score: 1

    I saw a guy txting while standing at the urinal. He was using both hands to txt. I didn't stand next to him to do my business, btw.

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  62. Re:Thats nothing by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

    How did you pull the battery before you dismantled it?

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  63. Shot out of a Cannon by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 1

    It's a lot easier with modern devices, but functioning electronics have been fired from guns at least since the proximity fuzes of WWII - and these used vacuum tubes!

  64. My son dropped his 3GS from 205 feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My son dropped his 3GS from a roller coaster at Bush Gardens. Coaster specs read the drop spot was 205 feet from the pavement below. He did have a heavy duty Otter Silicone case. The fellow who retrieved the phone for him said it bounced 6 feet high.. NO DAMAGE. Works exactly fine..

  65. Skydiving iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone 4 still receives calls after 13,500 ft drop! Yeah Apple! http://wp.me/p1yzb4-15z