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Apple Releases Mac OS X Lion, Updates Air

steffann was one of several readers to note that Apple has released OS X Lion for $30 available only through the Mac App Store. It's a 4 gig download so you better not be in a hurry. Lots of new stuff both cosmetic and functional. But if you're the sort of person who is going to install it today, then you already know what they are! They also updated the Air lineup, dropping the old white MacBooks entirely.

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  1. Why? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a 4 gig download so you better not be in a hurry.

    Yeah it takes a whopping 30 minutes. That's like...forever and stuff.

    1. Re:Why? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

      Quick tip people, from the kind folk in #MacOSX on Freenode - after downloading from the Mac App Store, but prior to installing OSX 10.7, take a copy of the app file from /Applications and store it in a safe place because it won't be there after you install.

      You will need to do this if you need access to the dmg for backup purposes.

    2. Re:Why? by DJRumpy · · Score: 2

      I can confirm this in the GM release, the installer is deleted after a successful reinstall. Make a copy of it, lock the original, and use the copy to install if you have multiple Mac's to put it on.

      If you want to burn the installer to a bootable disk, then open the installer .App, right click it to show the pkg contents, expand the "SharedSupport" folder, and burn the InstallESD.dmg image to DVD.

  2. Maybe include some details? by twocows · · Score: 4, Informative

    "But if you're the sort of person who is going to install it today, then you already know what they are!"
    I'm not the sort of person who is going to install it today and I would like some actual details in the summary instead of links to a marketing page and a blog post about something unrelated. I do try to keep up to date even with things I have no intention of purchasing; I work in an industry where it is advantageous to do such.

    For those who aren't able to psychicly deduce the details about something that just came out, here's the list of new features.

    1. Re:Maybe include some details? by JustinOpinion · · Score: 3, Interesting
      That's a useful list. There certainly are a lot of improvements in that list. Two that sound bad, however:

      Auto Save: Lock documents You can lock a document at any time to prevent inadvertent changes. Two weeks after the last edit, Lion automatically locks the document for you. When you try to make a change, Lion alerts you and asks if you want to unlock or duplicate the file.

      Having a lock feature is nice. But auto-locking the document seems like a nuisance. There are lots of documents that I edit on-and-off on a monthly or yearly schedule. I don't want to have an extra click just because I haven't touched that file in awhile. In fact, since OS X is pushing more and more for auto-backups and auto-versioning, auto-locking seems unnecessary. If you can always revert changes, then there's no need to give the user an extra 'are you sure you want to change this document' roadblock. To me, it's inconsistent for them to be pushing auto-saving/backup/versioning but also have auto-locking.

      Full-Screen Apps: Go full screen Apps built to take advantage of the entire screen have a new full-screen button in the window title bar. Click it to expand the app window to fill the screen. Exit full-screen viewTo bring an app back to the desktop, move the pointer to the top of the screen to reveal the menu bar and click the “exit full-screen” button on the far right.

      Apple's push towards full-screen apps seems like a small step backwards. They are basically expanding on the successful UI principles from iPhone and iPad and seeing if they work on laptops and desktops. This might be useful for some users, so as an option I think it's fine. I do, in fact, go to full-screen mode in Firefox sometimes, and I can see the benefit for other applications to really 'take over', even replacing the taskbar/etc. But the thing is that it breaks consistency. On iPhone/iPad, all applications behave a certain way, so it all makes sense and you can get used to it. But Apple machines now have too many kinds of applications (widgets, normal applications, maximized applications, these new full-screen applications, plus older 'full-screen apps' like front-row). It's becoming inconsistent, with a mixture of behaviors and UI conventions. This is the opposite of what Apple's nominal interface guidelines recommend. A full-screen UI also seems very inefficient on larger-display computers (desktops). It seems that Apple is optimizing the GUI for small form-factor devices at the expense of full-size computers. Optimizing for consumption over production of content. I worry that this is part of a larger trend to over-simplify desktop computing, making it less open, flexible and powerful.

      Other Features: Overlay scroll bars The new overlay scroll bars appear when you need them and fade away when you don’t, resulting in a more streamlined experience.

      I don't think that's a step in the right direction. Those little 'fade-away lines' make sense on a mobile phone, where space is at a premium. But on a desktop or laptop, I'd rather see the scroll-bars. It gives you something to mouse towards and grab. More importantly, it gives you constant feedback about where you are within a document, as well as information about the size of the document. This is useful information that you intuitively get when reading a book (you can see the thickness of the book and how far into it you are). Removing these subtle clues from applications reduces context and leads to user errors (e.g. thinking you've reached the end of the document when you hit some whitespace). The above complaints may seem nitpicky. Clearly there is a long list of very cool improvements. (Auto-saving and auto-versioning should be standard in any modern OS!) But as with any software/OS 'updrade' there always seem to be some things that get... worse.

    2. Re:Maybe include some details? by daktari · · Score: 2

      Personally I can't see myself upgrading in a hurry. I'm not particularly eager to turn my MBP into an iOS-like device (which some of these "improvements" seem to mimic).

      But then again, I don't have an iPhone/iPad, don't use Apple Mail, Safari, iTunes, Facetime, or any other Apple software for that matter (except iWork/iCal). I compile my own server, run VMware Fusion, do some serious RAW editing with Lightroom, enjoy my music with Songbird, watch everything with VLC and do all my text editing with Textmate, use GIT for version control and store the majority of my files on a RAID NAS. I also prefer to use a proper quality mouse with SteerMouse over my trackpad. So perhaps I'm not your typical OSX user who this upgrade appears to be aimed at.

      Call me an old dog, but on the surface I see more reasons to stay on Snow Leopard for as long as I can (until I can be convinced otherwise or are forced to upgrade). I'm not saying that there wouldn't be any welcome enhancements in this version for me. I just can't see them--yet.

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  4. Re:Shame about those on Leopard by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 2

    That's not true. You have to have Snow Leopard to download it (but you can download in an Apple store or get Lion elsewhere). Burn it to DVD or put it on a flash drive and you can install it on any Intel-based Mac, regardless of current OS.

  5. about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CARD! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CARD!

    http://www.apple.com/macmini/features.html#graphics

    only one TB port but that ok with HDMI and a HD 6630M in the $800 system.

    But why not have a 7200 RPM hdd? the Server comes with dual 500GB 7200 disks? why just have 1 500 7200 HDD in the base systems?

    and only 2GB in the $600 system? and $100.00 more to get 4 GB? better off paying $200 more to get a 4GB ram faster CPU and video card with it's own ram.

    $150 to go from 500GB to 750GB? You can get a 3TB HDD for $150.

  6. Re:Updated Mini's as well by smash · · Score: 2

    to be fair, i've used the optical drive in my mini (2007) about 3 times. and one of those times was upgrading to snow leopard.

    For the amount of use it doesn't get, I think its a smart move - considering in the AU market they've dropped the price by $200 in compensation. If you need an optical drive, a USB one will work for you to convert your media, or just play that using your existing player.

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  7. In other news... Physical Media and Thunderbolt by itsdapead · · Score: 2

    (A) For the people moaning about no physical media, they have also announced that there will be a physical version available on a USB thumb drive next month (gives them time for the first patches!) albeit for a considerable premium ($70 vs. $30 for download).

    (B) Also interesting is the new 27" Thunderbolt Display which includes webcam, microphone, a sound system, gigabit Ethernet, Firewire 800 and a thunderbolt daisy-chain port for additional peripherals and monitors - all via a single thunderbolt connection to a Mac (plus a magsafe power output to charge your laptop).

    Its still "reassuringly expensive", and only really makes sense as a "if you need to ask the price..." Macbook Pro companion, but it could represent the first example of the sort of things that Thunderbolt can do that USB3 can't.

    (Yeah, the USB ports are still only USB2, but Mac users are more likely to have an investment in FW800 while they wait for reasonably-priced Thunderbolt drives).

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    1. Re:In other news... Physical Media and Thunderbolt by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well here is a link to newegg for 27 inch monioors that support 2560x1440 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007617+600030620+600012694&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=20&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=
      The cheapest is 839 not counting rebate but they all seem to be right around $999 with NEC at 1349 So with the display acting like a docking station as well as a monitor it looks pretty dang good to me at $999. In fact right in the same price range but with more features. You can buy cheap 27" monitors but they are just 1080p resolution. Which on a 27 inch monitor would be pretty bad.
      The Mac Book pro isn't that badly priced for a quality professional notebook. Trust me I have seen Windows notebooks that sell for more that are not as well made.
      People complain that Apple is expensive but the truth is they just don't offer a product in every product line.
      Apple lacks an easy to expand mini tower for gamers and enthusiasts. I would love to see a Mac Mini with maybe one or two PCIE slots in a tower case for the same price. Not going to happen because that is a market that Apple isn't interested in.
      Apple also lacks a sub $999 notebook. I would have loved to see Apple push out a new MacBook with an i3 and DVD and maybe a few more USBs for $599-$799. I think it would have been ideal for students.
      The Mac Mini is actually really interesting. In many ways I can see it as the prefect machine for a lot of home users. It is tiny and not to shabby of a performer. Get a monitor with both DVI and HDMI and stick in a kids room. Use the HDMI for a Cable Tuner and the DVI for the Mini. Combine it with a wireless keyboard and you have a nice small TV plus computer setup not unlike the old Commodore 64 back in the day. Yes it will cost the average home user more than that $399 tower but frankly just a few vists from the geek squad to decrapify and clean malware will take up the difference.

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  8. Re:about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CAR by AccUser · · Score: 4, Funny

    too. many. numbers.

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  9. Ports on the back of a TV by tepples · · Score: 2

    i've used the optical drive in my mini (2007) about 3 times.

    Other people's experience differs. They use the Mac mini as a home theater PC and use the optical drive to play DVD Video discs.

    If you need an optical drive, a USB one will work for you to convert your media, or just play that using your existing player.

    Somebody with a Mac mini, a cable or satellite box for sports, and a Wii console already connected to the TV might not have another available port on the back of the TV for an upscaling DVD player.

  10. Actually, unlimited systems "you own or control" by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the Ars review, the license reads:

    (i) to download, install, use and run for personal, non-commercial use, one (1) copy of the Apple Software directly on each Apple-branded computer running Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server ("Mac Computer") that you own or control;

    The installer doesn't check, any system that you "own or control" you have a license for. A company system might be a grey are (you control it but they own it, and also control to some degree) but the installer doesn't check and no-one really cares.

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  11. Need TRIM support for non-Apple SSDs by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

    Many months ago, I found a utility that enabled TRIM in Snow Leopard for my Intel SSD. At the time, I was running 10.6.7. Once 10.6.8 update got installed, Apple overwrote the settings so that TRIM got disabled again. I had to re-enable it with the same utility. It's still enabled btw.

    I'm going to guess that Apple from a support policy, not technical, will refuse to enable TRIM for all non-Apple branded SSD drives. Perhaps they don't want to be blamed from loss of data and corruption, so they take the side of caution with hardware they don't directly control. So that would be my guess anyways. Can anyone confirm is this is still the case with Lion? If so, will Groth's utility still work?

    BTW, here is the direct link to the utility and developer in question. http://www.groths.org/?page_id=322

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  12. Re:Shame about those on Leopard by Calos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That seems rather arbitrary. Why would they do this?

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  13. Re:Download and burn by DogDude · · Score: 2

    Apple: Bringing vendor lock-in to new levels!

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  14. Re:And the price of the monitor is... by NJRoadfan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Chances are those $329 monitors aren't 2560x1440 IPS panels.

  15. Re:And the price of the monitor is... by caseih · · Score: 2

    Not quite. Apple's 27" offering is a real monitor with real high resolution. The ones your local shop sells are just HDTVs. 1920x1080. Thus I can't see anything more on your average 27" HDTV than I can on a 20". Thunderbolt is 2560x1440. Quite a bit of difference. I used the older large apple screens (the ones that required a dual-link DVI video card), and have to say more pixels is very nice. Wish more companies would sell honest-to-goodness high resolution monitors. I type this on a 22" LCD that isn't any higher resolution than my screen 5 years ago. It's pretty sad.

  16. Re:Download and burn by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    So what's going to prevent this appearing on the famous p2p sites in 20 minutes?.

    It'll be there (in fact it's there already since the GM version and this are the same). The only thing stopping you from using it is your personal sense of morals.

    Isn't it better to have things that way than to have to maintain some kind of uber activation system that pirates just work around in 20 minutes ANYWAY, but that at some point mean you have to have a frustrating two-hour long phone chat because your activation is failing?

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  17. Re:Shame about those on Leopard by Calos · · Score: 2

    Why is it not unreasonable to force users to buy previous versions of the OS, if they aren't dependencies for the current version?

    You can apparently just get the physical media or do it from the store to get the current version, but otherwise you have to pay for a version you won't use just to pay for the version you will use (from what I surmise from GP's post).

    My old laptop runs XP. Should I be forced to buy Vista to buy Windows 7? (Actually, the next step for it is probably Linux, but that's beside the point.) I don't see how this behavior is justifiable at all.

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  18. Re:Download and burn by NJRoadfan · · Score: 2

    Back in the 80s, Apple used to pretty much give all their OSes away for free, I think they started charging around System 7 or so. Later on they had a policy to make old versions available for download so people with old hardware can get their machines running. Once Steve Jobs returned, that policy stopped so the latest you can get on Apple's support site is System 7.5.5.

  19. How the installer works without a disk by GlobalEcho · · Score: 3, Informative

    As pointed out in the Ars Technica review, the installer creates a small (1GB) new partition on your hard drive without destroying any existing data. It then uses this partition to bootstrap the remainder of the install process.
    (That's just the sort of approach I took with a Linux system years and years ago, though my reward was a whole weekend spent trying to fix a broken system and finally just erasing the HD).

  20. Ars Review by BrentH · · Score: 4, Informative

    For a thorough and interesting review see ARS: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars Even I as a non Mac user find the detail Ars always goes into with a new Mac release entertaining.

  21. Re:Actually, unlimited systems "you own or control by jandrese · · Score: 2

    Basically, Apple has gone back to being a hardware company. I wish Microsoft would do this too, most people never upgrade Windows except when they buy a new machine because Microsoft charges an arm and a leg for each upgrade. With Apple there is little excuse not to be running the latest version.

    That said, there is one reason not to upgrade to Lion: If you still use PowerPC based applications (like Quicken!), they won't work in Lion. Apple removed the compatibility layer and doesn't even offer a way to install it as an optional package.

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  22. Re:about time for the mini to get a REAL VIDEO CAR by tibit · · Score: 2

    It's like complaining the Toyota Prius can't go 0 to 60 in 3 secs and can't carry 8 people.

    I think that the only vehicles that'd fit into those specs are called airplanes. Catapult launched carrier versions, to be specific.

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  23. Re:First Download? by Dynedain · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mac .APP files are actually folders. The OS just visually packages them up to make it pretty.

    Right-click on the Install App and choose Show Contents.

    Inside the SharedSupport folder, there is a disc image called InstallESD.dmg

    You can burn bootable discs or make USB sticks from that disc image. Enjoy!

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  24. Re:Not everybody has 18 Mbps by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Why focus on the drivers when you can despise the entire state?

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  25. Re:Powering your iMac during the download by node+3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not all Macs are purchased at an Apple Store; some are purchased at Best Buy or at independent Apple authorized retailers.

    100% irrelevant. Apple Stores will help you in their stores no matter where you bought your Mac. Also, third party stores will be able to give you access to a locally cached copy of Lion once you've purchased it.

    You keep acting like this is a common situation. It's contrived, solely to find some reason to bitch about something that won't be a problem for most people.

    And for those whom it is a problem, that's the way their life is. They can't watch Netflix, they can't buy TV shows from iTunes or watch Hulu, or buy games on Steam. Even YouTube is a pain. And OS updates that can exceed 1GB? Same issue. It's not like they are exactly the sort of people who are champing a the bit for the latest and greatest anyway. They can make for for a few weeks until physical media is available, assuming they can't avail themselves of the many other options until then.

    Apple has multiple solutions for the small minority who will have problems. You are exaggerating the issue.

  26. Re:First Download? by nettdata · · Score: 2

    That's why OS X Lion will be available on USB thumb drive for $69 next month.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20080981-17/mac-os-x-lion-pounces/

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  27. Re:Download and burn by SpeZek · · Score: 2

    Unless you're downloading OSX_Lion_4_Windows.exe, I doubt you're going to have a malware problem.

  28. New macs get it free by Aphonia · · Score: 2

    There is a free download (that isn't exactly working) for those who purchased after June 6, 2011.
    http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/ [apple.com]

  29. Re:Download and burn by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 2

    OS X 10.1 was a free upgrade from 10.0. All you had to do was visit an Apple retailer and supply your own CD/DVD.