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Most Enterprises Plan To Be On IPv6 By 2013
Julie188 writes "More than 70% of IT departments plan to upgrade their websites to support IPv6 within the next 24 months, according to a recent survey of more than 200 IT professionals conducted by Network World. Plus, 65% say they will have IPv6 running on their internal networks by then, too. One survey respondent, John Mann, a network architect at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, said his organization has been making steady IPv6 progress since 2008. 'Mostly IPv6 has just worked,' he said. 'The biggest problem is maintaining forward progress with IPv6 while it is still possible to take the easy option and fall back to IPv4.'"
If it were up to the IT professionals, more businesses would already be on it.
They should have surveyed CFOs to see what percentage of businesses will budget anything for an IPv6 transition in the next 24 months.
I'm an IT professional, but I'm not currently authorized to work on a transition of our network because I have a long list of things that was deemed more important by management.
2013? Seriously?
Who would be going to these sites?
I'm guessing about .1% of ISP's will be able to support native V6 by then...
Or maybe when they were asked respondents thought they were answering something about a new version
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"...Plus, 65% say they will have IPv6 running on their internal networks by then, too."
OK, you almost had me at upgrading corporate web servers (comprising of usually only a handful of machines serving that purpose), but do you honestly expect me to believe that 65% of corporate IT budgets are suddenly and magically going to prioritize an IPv6 transition, as they sit comfortably behind their NAT-enabled firewalled environment, the same environment that will continue to work with zero change?
Talk about going from zero to bullshit in 4.2 seconds. If corporations haven't been listening about the impending "doom" around IPv4 for the last decade, they sure as hell aren't going to start that suddenly now.
There are a lot of devices out there that cannot handle IPv6. Not only is it not feasible to just tell everyone "Oh go replace it," not all of them are cheap things that get replaced often. Some are things that are around many a year.
What we need is a good 4 to 6 NAT standard, and to try to get ISPs on board with that. You have the modem/bridge/router work all IPv6, but run an IPv4 DHCP server. Have it hand out addresses that aren't used, maybe in the experimental range since it won't even step on old IPv4 NAT with that, and reserve another section internally for its use. It then internally handles all the translation. An IPv4 device requests a site that request goes to the DNS server in the router, which goes out and gets the AAAA record. It then maps the IPv6 IP to one of its internal IPv4 IPs for the IPv4 devices. The IPv4 device has no idea what is going on, traffic works just as it always has.
Until we get something like that going, there is going to be a large scale adoption problem. Nobody wants to go IPv6 only because doing so cuts off IPv4 sites. Nobody with IPv4 needs to go IPV6 since everything supports v4.
A 4 to 6 NAT system would be a real boon for ISPs since it would alleviate address space concerns. Hell customers could have static IPv6 addresses no problem. Would be worth their while to do, as address space becomes more scarce, and nobody would mind because everything would just keep working.
I work for a pretty good sized company and we'll be lucky to be off XP by then...
No need to worry about that. XP has IPv6 support.
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Why do you assume that you wouldn't have a firewall for your internal network, even if it's publicly-routable? People have a bad habit of conflating NAT and security...
Every host on the Internet is "supposed" to be able to directly address every other host, but for firewalls of course. A flat address space simplifies things tremendously.
Imagine if your network printer worked from Starbucks, because it was just one fixed address on the Internet. Or you could bookmark your TiVo's web interface without any port forwarding, or some nasty polling interface involved to schedule shows on their servers. IPv6, by reinstating end-to-end connectivity, will do this.
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Most Enterprises Plan To Be On IPv6 By 2013
Maybe I've just been unrealistic; but I assumed most of the NCC-1701 series, at least, were already running something more advanced than that.
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If you're a business, it allows you to MERGE NETWORKS or talk between two discrete LANs in a far more convenient manner. If you've ever had to support the situation where say, you want to talk between a corp network running on 10.0.0.0/8 and another corp also using 10.0.0.0/8, you'll understand the brain damage that IPV4 NAT brings to the table.
Ditto for home users trying to VPN into your network when they're using 10/8 or another one of the private networks on their LAN that you happen to have employed inside your LAN as well.
IPV4 is broken and needs to die.
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
All IPV6 needs for mass adoption is for a few pornographers to publish new content exxxclusively on IPV6.
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in two years.
It's been the case since 10 years ago.
that's miredo (spelling), but yeah, anyone on slashdot who doesn't have ipv6 (even if their isp is ipv4 only), is a lazy git who should turn in her or his geek card. Too easy and way too many ways to get connectivity through tunnel. Many free services out there, will give you your very own *static* /64 subnet and a tunnel, you can have a static ipv6 address for every cell in your body!
Since it was Network World, of the IT/Mac/PC World fame(infamy), I consider these results to be about as accurate as a 2yr old calculating the speed of light.
If they can't issue new ipv4, then potential customers may only have ipv6
Do you honestly belive that?
If an ISP runs out of public v4 IPs and has any sense they will do the following:
* Redeploy the v4 IPs to the most lucrative uses.
* For those customers who do not pay enough to justify a dedicated public v4 IP provide some system for them to access at least the v4 web and most likely other services on the v4 internet. Most likely either NAT444 (v4 nat both in the CPE and at the ISP) or DS-lite but NAT64 and proxies are also possibilies.
I'd be very surprised if we see any major websites on v6 only or any clients without some way to access the v4 web any time soon.
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