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Most Enterprises Plan To Be On IPv6 By 2013

Posted by samzenpus on from the get-on-the-wagon dept.

Julie188 writes "More than 70% of IT departments plan to upgrade their websites to support IPv6 within the next 24 months, according to a recent survey of more than 200 IT professionals conducted by Network World. Plus, 65% say they will have IPv6 running on their internal networks by then, too. One survey respondent, John Mann, a network architect at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, said his organization has been making steady IPv6 progress since 2008. 'Mostly IPv6 has just worked,' he said. 'The biggest problem is maintaining forward progress with IPv6 while it is still possible to take the easy option and fall back to IPv4.'"

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  1. Wrong survey audience by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it were up to the IT professionals, more businesses would already be on it.

    They should have surveyed CFOs to see what percentage of businesses will budget anything for an IPv6 transition in the next 24 months.

    I'm an IT professional, but I'm not currently authorized to work on a transition of our network because I have a long list of things that was deemed more important by management.

    1. Re:Wrong survey audience by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

      100% of CFOs said "What? Who are you? How did you get into my office?"

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    2. Re:Wrong survey audience by gman003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, IT pros are probably more likely to want IPv6. But most of the survey questions were action ones - what have you done about IPv6? When a quarter say they've already started rolling out internal IPv6, and 13% more say they're done, that says a lot. The numbers are similar for web servers with public IPv6 - 20% have started, 13% are already done. It would appear that this is a technical problem that can be explained to the bosses easily: "I'm sorry, but the Internet is full. We need to upgrade to the new Internet if we want to add more stuff. We'll still work with the old Internet, so we won't lose customers, and we're only going to need to replace ___, ___ and maybe ___."

  2. Who did they ask? by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    2013? Seriously?

    Who would be going to these sites?

    I'm guessing about .1% of ISP's will be able to support native V6 by then...

    Or maybe when they were asked respondents thought they were answering something about a new version
    of Intellectual Property.

  3. No the biggest problem is IPv4 devices by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are a lot of devices out there that cannot handle IPv6. Not only is it not feasible to just tell everyone "Oh go replace it," not all of them are cheap things that get replaced often. Some are things that are around many a year.

    What we need is a good 4 to 6 NAT standard, and to try to get ISPs on board with that. You have the modem/bridge/router work all IPv6, but run an IPv4 DHCP server. Have it hand out addresses that aren't used, maybe in the experimental range since it won't even step on old IPv4 NAT with that, and reserve another section internally for its use. It then internally handles all the translation. An IPv4 device requests a site that request goes to the DNS server in the router, which goes out and gets the AAAA record. It then maps the IPv6 IP to one of its internal IPv4 IPs for the IPv4 devices. The IPv4 device has no idea what is going on, traffic works just as it always has.

    Until we get something like that going, there is going to be a large scale adoption problem. Nobody wants to go IPv6 only because doing so cuts off IPv4 sites. Nobody with IPv4 needs to go IPV6 since everything supports v4.

    A 4 to 6 NAT system would be a real boon for ISPs since it would alleviate address space concerns. Hell customers could have static IPv6 addresses no problem. Would be worth their while to do, as address space becomes more scarce, and nobody would mind because everything would just keep working.

    1. Re:No the biggest problem is IPv4 devices by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What good is an enterprise system if SOHO customers can't reach their IPV6-hosted web sites?

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  4. Re:Ya right maybe off XP by 2013 by camperdave · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work for a pretty good sized company and we'll be lucky to be off XP by then...

    No need to worry about that. XP has IPv6 support.

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  5. Re:and what does IPV6 do for inside network any wa by smash · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're a business, it allows you to MERGE NETWORKS or talk between two discrete LANs in a far more convenient manner. If you've ever had to support the situation where say, you want to talk between a corp network running on 10.0.0.0/8 and another corp also using 10.0.0.0/8, you'll understand the brain damage that IPV4 NAT brings to the table.

    Ditto for home users trying to VPN into your network when they're using 10/8 or another one of the private networks on their LAN that you happen to have employed inside your LAN as well.

    IPV4 is broken and needs to die.

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  6. Most enterprises plan to deploy IPv6 by microbee · · Score: 3, Funny

    in two years.

    It's been the case since 10 years ago.

  7. Re:Ohh yeah, in 18 months, and please let me... by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that's miredo (spelling), but yeah, anyone on slashdot who doesn't have ipv6 (even if their isp is ipv4 only), is a lazy git who should turn in her or his geek card. Too easy and way too many ways to get connectivity through tunnel. Many free services out there, will give you your very own *static* /64 subnet and a tunnel, you can have a static ipv6 address for every cell in your body!

  8. Netwokrk World was the one asking by PhreakOfTime · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since it was Network World, of the IT/Mac/PC World fame(infamy), I consider these results to be about as accurate as a 2yr old calculating the speed of light.