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An anonymous reader writes "I love the idea of getting an ebook reader primarily for reading research journal papers. However I've heard bad things about the handling of PDFs on the major ones. I don't particularly care for color, but having an e-ink display and the ability to handle PDF/PS docs without conversion would be a major plus. I'd even be open to a hacked Kindle running Linux if it were practical. Does any good solution exist?" A few months ago I found the Asus Eee Note (some folks even figured out how the software works and got it to run other Qt apps), but my hopes were dashed when I learned they had killed it before it even arrived in the U.S. It seems right now that this particular niche is not being served: or is it?

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  1. illiad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The iRex illiad is pretty good. I think you'd find an ereader useful as long as you're trying to read straight through some document; if you are doing a lot of flipping back and forth to say reference an equation that was on a previous page you'll find it tedious. The pages just don't load fast enough for that.

    1. Re:illiad by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      I think you'd find an ereader useful as long as you're trying to read straight through some document

      I have found the Kobo surprisingly good. And since Borders is gone, you can find Kobos for around $50. I would definitely take a look at one before you decide.

      My wife's a mathematician and reads a lot of journal articles on her Kobo. Don't use the Kobo software, though. Just regular old Calibre.

      I've got a different problem. I want to be able to read sheet music on my eReader. I finally got a nice 10" Android tablet, with a MusicXML (mXML) reader. I can load my Sibelius or Finale lead sheets, too.

      Of course, orchestral scores are not so hot. For that, the best eReader is a nice big 1080p monitor. I use a USB foot pedal to turn pages. I wish I could come up with a foot pedal for my tablet, though. I'm learning the chromatic harmonica, and I often use the Android to read lead sheets or fake book pages, but I have to take a hand off the harp to turn a page.

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    2. Re:illiad by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I use a USB foot pedal to turn pages.

      oh? Forward and back? Mapped to key sequences? Have you hacked up automatic note tracking yet?

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    3. Re:illiad by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1

      If you're not constantly flipping back and forth to reference that equation, ur doin it wrong. No one can go over writing as dense as a theoretical paper just once and have more than the most superficial understanding of what was just read.

    4. Re:illiad by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      I wish I could come up with a foot pedal for my tablet, though

      Have you tried one of the Bluetooth ones like PageFlip or AirTurn?

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    5. Re:illiad by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      oh? Forward and back?

      Naw, it's just really a momentary switch. I'm not very smart when it comes to wires and all that physical stuff.

      Have you hacked up automatic note tracking yet?

      Well, know that's an idea. It would work when using my midi keyboard, but it would have to track audio for my chromatic harp, which is possible, but I could see it having a lot of false turns in a piece that repeats phrases, which is most Western music.

      I'm considering hiring an attractive young woman to turn pages for me, but I'm still waiting for my wife to approve the proposal I submitted.

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    6. Re:illiad by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I'm considering hiring an attractive young woman to turn pages for me, but I'm still waiting for my wife to approve the proposal I submitted.

      I suggest you revise the proposal, where you let your your wife turn the pages.

      Perhaps this arrangement will be acceptable to your wife?

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  2. Kindle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The kindle can read pdfs without conversion, although if your going to read a lot pdfs, I'd probably go with the DX model.

    1. Re:Kindle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree, I have the newest Kindle DX since almost a year now and it is very good on scientific papers. Use it for conference preps too and have the paper right there in the auditory for all the speakers, very convenient. Microscopy pictures can be a bit hard if they are very dark though.

    2. Re:Kindle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use the regular kindle too, and it's okay, but not great. The best reader I've found for scientific documents remains the journal it came in, though - paper is the only thing that really just works. Multicolumn papers are just unreadable on any kind of screen, be it a real computer, an ipad or a kindle or anything in between.

      But if you want to try it, one thing that helps is briss (google it). It has an unfortunate name but you can use it to trim the whitespace around the edge of the pdf so you don't waste all that screen space. The words will still be small but not as small. It's tolerable but not enjoyable like ebooks. For what it's worth I have a kindle 3.

    3. Re:Kindle by boristhespider · · Score: 1

      Never heard of Briss, thanks for that. I tried using my Sony Reader for papers a few years ago and it was such an unenjoyable experience that I quit right away.

    4. Re:Kindle by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      I haven't heard that word used for years - since I worked for a company that had acquired the name by acronymphomania. And they were amused but unamused to find out what it means.

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    5. Re:Kindle by reason · · Score: 1

      I bought a Kindle DX for scientific papers, but found it too slow. It takes a noticeable few seconds to turn the pages of large PDFs (whether they are large due to being long technical reports or due to being papers containing complex images). This is not a huge problem when reading straight through, but becomes a big problem when you need to flip back and forth through a reference document.

      The Kindle is great (and much better than an iPad) for reading novels, but I've found the iPad better for reading scientific documents. It's faster, you can annotate PDFs on it (and share the annotated papers with others in the standard PDF format) and it has apps that can help file papers and search through them in a logical order. I daresay other tablets are similar in this respect. I recommend GoodReader as the best app I've found for reading and annotating PDFs.

  3. Kindle DX by metageek · · Score: 2

    Kindle DX and read the articles sideways

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    1. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Two words describe a problem with that: vertical panning... although I'm not so lazy that I'm unwilling to pan a page, it's still roughly as detaching from the experience of actually absorbing the content as flipping a physical page is, and creates a discontinuous impression of a single page that would otherwise have been seamless if you could see it all at once.

      Simply put, for some types of content, you need to see a whole page at a time... and you need it to be presented large enough that you will be able to see all the text clearly.

      The DX doesn't do that.

    2. Re:Kindle DX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I just got a Kindle DX yesterday! Primarily for reading technical documents.

      Pros:
      - The screen is awesome.
      - Page turning is very fast! Even on 20mb PDF's converted from DJVU.
      - I like that its not as full featured and interactive as an iPad because I want to use this as a research tool and not get distracted with the internet, apps, etc.

      Cons:
      - Closed platform. This has immediate consequences such as the web browser does not allow me to download PDFs!

      Overall, the quality of the screen supersedes my issues with the closed platform. If you really need something hackable try the Pocketbook 902.

      P.S. If anyone has any questions about it and don't feel like spending 400 bucks to find out, ask me and I will try to answer.

    3. Re:Kindle DX by OctaviusIII · · Score: 1

      I've got a question, but you're an AC! Still, I'll try:

      How does the DX handle links embedded in the PDF? I read a lot of planning documents (housing development, etc) and those can have embedded links that I'd like to have access to.

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    4. Re:Kindle DX by ynp7 · · Score: 2

      You should be able to follow the links. The 3rd gen Kindles have a Webkit-based browser built in. I've never tried a PDF, but it certainly works for books in Amazon's Mobi format, so it should work with PDF as well.

    5. Re:Kindle DX by dachshund · · Score: 1

      I have a Kindle DX and an iPad. I love the idea of ePaper, but in practice the rendering is too slow if you need to flip a few pages back to get a definition, the screen isn't quite big enough, and reading sideways is a bitch when you hit a two-column paper. Oh, and zoom is a joke.

      The DX now gathers dust.

      The iPad LCD isn't ideal but it's functional in all the ways that the DX is not. Try GoodReader.

    6. Re:Kindle DX by gallen1119 · · Score: 1

      iPad + Goodreader ditto

    7. Re:Kindle DX by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      It's a good suggestion, and it works well. I have tried Science (AAAS), Scientific American, and The Scientist. One of them didn't work, I don't remember which. It showed "Some content on this page could not be displayed" at the bottom of a blank page.

      Papers themselves should be fine. PDF reading in general is pretty good as long as it's not the one scientific journal I couldn't read.

      I play guitar, and use it to display Lilypond typeset output, and it looks wonderful. I can't even say it's a photoshop, because I can't see the pixels. And as parent post said, turn it sideways and it auto-zooms to fill.

      Kindle DX is a beautiful thing, and I hope thy fix the few bits the PDF reader can't do. Formulae and such are fine, seems to be piles of images layered that gives the problem.

      Put some junk on a notebook and bring it with you, and ask the salespeople at the various places near you if they would mind if you transferred some things to the thing and see what it looks like.

      You won't be happy with a nook color unless you really want color, e-Ink is energy conscious - I've charged it twice in two months. Don't shut it off, just leave the last page you read open. Chart or index or reference or whatever, it stays there until you replace it, no burn-in.

      I hate to sound like a shill, I'm just really happy. $379 or whatever well spent, and it will get cheaper.

      Please, don't tell me if it hasn't.

    8. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 1

      The DX screen is only 6". The iPad has a screen size of 9.7". Hardly about the same size... The iPad is *almost* large enough to comfortably view a full page (albeit slightly shrunk from full size). For comparison, a full-sized letter or A4 page has a diagonal of about 14".

      Given the recent trend of increasing resolutions and display sizes, another viable choice would be to simply wait until an A4 or letter-sized unit actually becomes commercially available.

    9. Re:Kindle DX by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Take a look at the Brother SV-100B. A4 size so you get a whole page on screen at once. 9.7 inch LCD rather than eInk but 80+ hours battery life. Not cheap.

      Otherwise the only other option is a large tablet. If you get an Android one it integrates nicely with Google Docs so you can just upload everything to there (it accepts PDFs) for wireless access.

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    10. Re:Kindle DX by cpghost · · Score: 1

      I agree, the Kindle DX is great. However, it misses one important functionality: split screen. More often than not, I need to pin a definition, a theorem etc... in one section of the screen, and to scroll through the remaining pages (e.g. proofs, additional remarks etc.), in the other section. Looking at both parts simultaneously is very convenient, when you don't have paper and pencil at hand (e.g. when you're traveling). But save for that, yes, I love the Kindle DX.

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    11. Re:Kindle DX by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      The Kindle DX has a screen size of 9.7".

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    12. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 1

      My bad. I was misinformed.

      As I said, however... that display is *almost* large enough to comfortably view a full page of content at once such that all of it is legible.

      Push that up to about 12", and as long as the dpi wasn't actually reduced, even though that diagonal is still about 15% smaller than A4/Letter, the display would probably be quite adequate for displaying such content.

      I have several issues with the Kindle, some technical, some philosophical, which is why I do not expect to ever be getting one.

      Fwiw, I have several issues with the iPad too, but I happen to already own one...it does not have most of the technical issues I have about the kindle, and it was a gift - or else I probably wouldn't own an iPad either.

    13. Re:Kindle DX by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      So you don't know that the DX is a 9" display but you're still making comments about the PDF reading experience on it? Something doesn't add up here.

    14. Re:Kindle DX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The DX is rouchly the same size as 8.5x11 paper zoomed out slightly for the margin of the device itself around the screen... and it handles pdf natively. Not sure why the GP suggested reading sideways. Use it straight up. One large page at a time... it's exactly what I use mine for...

    15. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I don't have to own a Kindle to know the (current) limitations of e-ink.

    16. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I have other issues with the Kindle anyways... most of the technical ones are due to the current limitations of e-ink technology.

    17. Re:Kindle DX by mark-t · · Score: 1

      A 9.7" diagonal is not A4. A4 and letter both have roughly a 14" diagonal. Even if you allow for one inch margins, that's still a full 12 inches of diagonal distance, not 9.7, which is almost 20% smaller than a 12" diagonal, and about 30% smaller than a full A4 or letter sized display. In practice, a 12" display would likely be adequate for viewing letter-sized or A4 documents, as long as the dpi resolution of the display is kept up to show crisp text and other content.

      Most people don't need a display that large, of course... but then most people don't extensively read scientific papers on ebooks either.

    18. Re:Kindle DX by Silas+is+back · · Score: 1

      If you have a Mac, try Papers on Mac + iPad! Absolutely fantastic.

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  4. Don't use a default Kindle by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't have much experience with different e-readers. Just noting that from my personal experience with the Kindle's default handling of PDFs it isn't very good for scientific papers. Diagrams especially don't come out well, and occasionally stuff isn't rendered correctly (although that issue has become nearly non-existent with the new Kindles and the upgrades. I don't know what they did but presumably improved stuff somewhere). I have friends who have had good experiences with the iPad, and for diagrams it is quite nice. You can easily rotate them or zoom in or out using a very intuitive interface.

    1. Re:Don't use a default Kindle by dudeman500 · · Score: 1

      I have the kindle 3 and have had no issues. However, i regret not buying the DX as even turned sideways the 3 can be frustrating.

    2. Re:Don't use a default Kindle by artor3 · · Score: 2

      I own a Kindle (2e) and love it, but I agree with the above sentiment. When it comes down to it, e-ink in general isn't very good for any paper with lots of diagrams or schematics. You want something that can pan and zoom without refreshing the screen, which means you want an LCD screen. So far I haven't heard of any top notch Android tablets, so that leaves the iPad as the frontrunner for this particular application.

  5. What's wrong with the Kindle? by questioner · · Score: 2

    I've had no issues with PDFs on the Kindle, whether the DX (which is the right form factor), or the 3 (which is conveniently portable). It's not a perfect solution, but it works.

    IMO, the optimal solution would be a hybrid display (like Pixel Qi make), a form factor halfway between the DX and the 3 (i.e. roughly the screen size of a normal book), and running an Android OS so apps can be written to support things like DJVU. I had high hopes for the Adam (Notion Ink, http://www.notionink.com/), but they're a little too ... grungy ... for me to be willing to spend $600 on.

    1. Re:What's wrong with the Kindle? by OFnow · · Score: 2

      Somehow for me the Kindle DX is a terrible pdf reader. The fonts that look sensible on paper just look really light on Kindle. And the search on Kindle is horrible: AFAICT no partial word search no control of case-match/not and so on. Even translating the source to an ebook format only helps with the character visibility (while kind of making the really long tables in the doc I want on Kindle into a mess), using Calibre as the transformer.

      Been reading a few books a day for a week now, recovering from a small injury, and find Kindle DX great for books...

  6. Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by introp · · Score: 2

    The built-in PDF reader on the Nook Color is decent. It drains the battery faster (maybe 2x or 3x?) than reading epub files but is still quite usable. I've only ever had trouble with one PDF: there was one page with a TON of overlaid vector images and it wouldn't render correctly; all pages after that page were missing images entirely. Otherwise it's been a fine machine.

    1. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by blackest_k · · Score: 2

      Calibre seems pretty good at format shifting pdf to epub which is a lot less of a strain for an ereader , android device to cope with.

      I haven't tried calibre on complicated pdfs but so far it has handled everything i have given it.

    2. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 2

      I have used it; it works well when there are no headers or footers. But with heathers / foothers (i.e., all technical manuals), the headers get in the text and disrupt it.

      Anyone has tried some software that does not have this problem?

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    3. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by akpoff · · Score: 3, Informative

      I bought the Nook Color for the same reason. The Nook Color PDF reader is a very capable viewer. I didn't want the Nook version of Android so I bought one that was already rooted with CyanogenMod.

      I'm mostly happy with it for reading PDFs. Like any tablet-sized reader you will have to pan. You can view the pages in portrait mode fully zoomed out but it's hard to read that way. I read in landscape and just pan the document a bit. I'm finding more authors are publishing to PDF using one column. In those cases it just work. Pinch-zooming works but the text rarely (if ever) re-flows the way web pages do in Chrome.

      I don't like the Adobe file browser on Android, though. It adds every PDF on the SD card to the master list. It's a giant scrollable list with each folder path as a section separator. I would like the option to toggle between hierarchical folder view and list.

      I tried using Calibre to convert some PDFs to ePub. Two-column PDFs have been a disaster. I rarely get anything that's usable. YMMV. I decided to stick with PDFs (or .ps files I convert to PDF).

      Using Chrome to read web pages is mostly workable. Strangely, clicking an HTML file in the file manager doesn't launch the regular Chrome browser. Rather you get the "HTML Viewer". It's mostly Chrome but has no open dialog or access to bookmarks (AFAICT).

      As an Android device it's quite functional. Most market applications install without a problem. The one I have problems with are those for which the Download button doesn't appear. I haven't chased the issue down yet. Not sure whether it's a Cyanogen issue.

      Google Books works great but you have to have internet access to read the books. Just goes to prove Android is really designed to be an always-connected OS. FBReader, on the other hand, just works.

      As you can tell, it's no iPad in terms of "It Just Works". In sum, as a PDF reader I'm mostly happy with it. All the other features are bonuses. The issues are mostly irrelevant.

      Lastly, if you check E-Bay or B&N's website they sell refurbed Nook Color's for $199. For an extra $50 you can get the extended warranty (if you're into those). For the same $249 for a new one with 1-year warranty you get a unit with a 2-year warranty.

    4. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by GrantRobertson · · Score: 1

      I suggest Repligo Reader for reading .PDFs on any android device. It is the only one I have found that allows you to add annotations just like Acrobat Pro does so you can share the file between your device and your desktop.

    5. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by xtracto · · Score: 2

      I own a Sony PRS-900 and use it *only* to read PDFs (mainly Comp. Science papers). So far what have worked for me is using Briss to automagically crop all the headers, footers and margins from all the pages.

      For multicolumn papers the PRS-900 has a great multi-column reading mode (dividing the page in 4 quadrants, zooming in the first one and as you select "next page" going into the adequate next quadrant).

      I installed Calibre some time ago but deleted it as it was a huge beast (it really made my computer crawl). I tried converting one or two PDFs to Ebooks but as you said the headers/footers messed everything. Maybe combining Briss with Calibre would work.

      I have a small batch file in my desktop in which I drop every PDF before reading it. It has soPDF and Briss. I have had no problems reading any PDF so far.

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    6. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by NightWhistler · · Score: 1

      I second this... working on my MSc thesis, and figured I'd give my 2c since it took me some time to find a setup that worked for me. Right now I use: Archos 10 inch tablet with repligo for reading and an Ubuntu netbook with LyX for actual writing.

      Repligo handles 2-column document really well: tap the column to bring it up to full screen size, drag your finger over text to colour it... it's like having a virtual bag of magic markers. You can also add annotation text to marked sections.

      I sync between my tablet and my netbook through dropbox. It automatically notices when I changed a PDF and uploads the changes. All annotations and markings show up in the PDF reader on my netbook and I can copy-paste the marked sections for easy quoting.

      The last tool in my chest is Referencer which I use to save short summaries, thoughts, etc about the papers I've read so I can quickly find a paper again.

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    7. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 1

      I found reading programming books on the nook color doesn't work so well. I am not sure if it was the fixed width font or something, but the code examples would often scroll off the page, which made things very difficult to learn.

      My nook is about a year old though, maybe later revisions are better.

    8. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by pz · · Score: 1

      I'm finding more authors are publishing to PDF using one column. In those cases it just work. Pinch-zooming works but the text rarely (if ever) re-flows the way web pages do in Chrome.

      To my understanding, PDF is not designed for reflow. It is designed for a fixed page size, not a variable one. Reflow is an exclusively web-centric idea.

      As someone who has typeset thousands of pages of scientific documents to professional standards as well as has designed a handful of web sites, designing documents for proper viewing under reflow is much, much harder than doing the same with a fixed page size. Unless of course you don't care about where images and figures appear relative to the text, and you don't have formulas or expressions with non-standard breaking points, or you don't care about correct line breaks and even paragraph filling.

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    9. Re:Nook Color handles 99% of my PDFs by b0bby · · Score: 1

      There may be a way to set it to exclude margins, or ignore that text - I've only played with Calibre a little, but I found that there are some pretty advanced options for conversion. Some versions of Acrobat might export to Word & you could clean it up there. I've found that pdf conversion is usually a pain whatever you do, but if it's something you're doing a lot of, might be worth looking into.

  7. Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I own a Kindle DX, it is good enough, but for heavy PDF nothing beats an iPad with Papers 2

    1. Re:Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by Tragek · · Score: 2

      Ditto on the iPad.

      I paid for Papers (Both on the Mac and iPad), and while it's passable, I really find their workflow disagrees with me. It just seems really hard to get CS to work in it properly (developed by Biological Sciences people, and it feels like the workflow for databases like the ACM DL and IEEE are a bit.. rushed)

        Final word: Use the trial for Papers on the Mac for sure. Papers on the iPad is perhaps easier to justify, though, I don't know if it'll run stand alone (can you import/export without the mac app?)

    2. Re:Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by drjzzz · · Score: 1

      iAnnotate PDF on the iPad is a great way to read, bookmark, and annotate pdfs. You can highlight, draw, add notes, etc. It is great for conferences and meetings with a lot of documentation; all fits easily on even the 16GB iPad (of course, and much more beside). For heavier duty note taking, I copy from iAnnotate and paste into Pages.

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    3. Re:Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by Lust · · Score: 1

      Have to agree with this. Bought the ipad as an experiment and haven't gone back. Can sync changes in iAnnotate with Dropbox.

    4. Re:Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by sakelley · · Score: 1

      The Kindle DX is my favorite for simple documents I read through linearly, one page at a time. It's light and runs a week or two on a charge with the wireless switched off. The iPad is much better (and significantly faster) for programming books, and technical papers, but is quite a bit heavier and generally needs at least daily recharging.

      For scientific papers, I'd either go with an iPad, or wait a little while to see what Amazon has planned for the fall.

    5. Re:Nothing beats an iPad for heavy PDFs by Wim+Dog · · Score: 1

      On iPad, Papers is good – as is iAnnotate...but I find that Sente is much nicer. All PDFs synchronised between your devices, including highlighting and markup. But these are only really good solutions if you're using the desktop client which is mac only.

  8. easy by djfake · · Score: 2

    Just use a printer and let them pile up on your desk. When you finally get to finishing that paper, they'll be there, somewhere!

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    1. Re:easy by solidraven · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much exactly what I've been doing. Found a trick to do it for free. Every once in a while a printer, fax machine or copy machine breaks down and needs to be fixed and off course tested. After buying my share of coffee for the repair guys I managed to get a pretty nice deal. Needless to say 1000 page tests have occurred a few times already.

      At the moment it comes down to this:
      Cost of coffee: ~€70
      Cost of printed documents if I were to normally print them: ~€440

      At the moment I like the profit margin.

  9. Non-touch screen eReaders are annoying by Angrywhiteshoes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to have the Kindle DX. I bought it so I didn't need to carry a bunch of paper or books around with me. But I soon found, that it was VERY annoying for using as reference or reading papers on. Jumping from page to page with the clicky buttons was very slow and you couldn't do any side-by-side comparison. Not to mention, if the PDF or whatever is an Image PDF, it takes a decade to load. I just went back to paper and books, can take notes in the margins, highlight easily, do side-by-side comparison and easy reference by keeping bookmarks and flipping between pages faster. Maybe its just the method Amazon uses to render the screen, but I didn't like it for those purposes. Others might have a different opinion than me or a better solution (which I'd be glad to hear since I hate carrying all my books, etc around).

  10. Barnes & Noble Nook Touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Barnes & Nobel Nook Touch is a touchscreen e-ink reader running Android 2.1 Eclair. It has been rooted with Google Apps installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132693 . You can download ezPDF or Acrobat reader through Google market. I have a Nook Color, the color LCD version of this running Android 2.2 Froyo. It renders scientific papers quite well. I don't have direct experience with the Nook Touch, but I imagine the experience would be similar.

    1. Re:Barnes & Noble Nook Touch by GrantRobertson · · Score: 1

      For e-ink this is what I would recommend. However, I prefer Repligo Reader for reading .PDF files. You can mark up the document with highlights, notes, drawings, etc. just as you can with Acrobat Pro. Plus, these annotations are put into the file using the same format as Acrobat so you can sync your files between your e-reader and your computer and use the exact same file on both. The program has several other features that I think make it the best .PDF reader around.

    2. Re:Barnes & Noble Nook Touch by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      I dunno, my Android devices (1st gen Snapdragon and a Ti OMAP 800MHz) are pretty slow at rendering big scientific documents. My 300-page EE PDFs take ages to load and scrolling farther than half a page per second gives me blank spaces that take a few seconds to load up...

    3. Re:Barnes & Noble Nook Touch by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Umm, eInk readers don't run Android. Maybe the LCD Nook does. But it isn't an eInk reader.

  11. Ipad by garaged · · Score: 1

    Dont go for a eink tabled, it will never work until they have eink at full colors

    Besides, ipad wpnt need a lamp if you want to readat night, I have a little insomnia problem and my nights are much better since I buyed my wife an ipad, you can stay at bed reading without much trouble until you get sleepy again.

    Im not a fanboy, I actaully work on a linux laptop/desktop 100% of the time, but the itouches ar one great thing comming from apple, just jailbreak it :)

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    1. Re:Ipad by garaged · · Score: 1

      Well, as much as it makes some sense, having had this problem decades before the ipad even existed, kind of invalidates the theory

      Only thing that have found to help is exercise, but even that is not 100% solution

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  12. None Currently are Perfect by BruiserBlanton · · Score: 2

    I don't know what your discipline is, but I think it'll depend on what journals you typically read.

    I'm a chemist, so a lot of what I read is from the American Chemical Society. Most of the articles are formatted for a big (bigger than letter size) with two column format. It's a big of a squeeze down to letter paper, but you can still read it.

    I've got a Kindle DX and I find the ACS journals are just too small when fitted to the Kindle DX's viewable area. It's suppose to be able to show a letter-sized document in full but that's only if it has "standard" margins. Most journal articles don't have those standard margins. I personally am hoping for someone to market a 13.1 in diagonal e-reader which should be able to show a letter-size pdf in the full. Delta's eMagzine fits the bill but no commercial companies have brought it to the market.

    If the article is one-column or manuscript-style, it should be easy to read on most e-readers but I would stay on the large size because of things like diagrams and small indices in equations.

    I don't know of any readers that do postscript.

  13. Skim on Mac (but not e-book per se) by iliketrash · · Score: 1

    This doesn't specifically respond to your e-book specification, but Skim on the Mac is amazingly useful for reading PDFs. It has extensive notation and mark-up abilities. I use it exclusively to read technical papers and also use it exclusively to review journal manuscripts that are sent to me.

    1. Re:Skim on Mac (but not e-book per se) by mrfrostee · · Score: 1

      Does Skim work well on the small MacBook Air, or is the resolution too low?

  14. iPad and Papers Touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Get an iPad and Papers Touch. It seems to be what you need. http://www.mekentosj.com/papers/touch

  15. still looking.. by zeldor · · Score: 1

    I was so looking forward to the KNO device for this very reason.
    but it didnt quite make it to usefulness :(

    The ipad and goodreader is my current default but the screen is really just a little to small for
    tech/scientific docs.

    the asus eee pad transformer has promise but battery life sucks.

    there are some flip screen laptops that are nice but again short battery life and quite spendy.

    Ive been looking for years for such a beast but technology and demand arent there yet.

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    1. Re:still looking.. by tvller · · Score: 1

      You just need to use the crop function of Goodreader to crop the viewable area closed to the main part of the paper, everything will get bigger, even bigger than printed paper.

  16. iPad + iAnnotatePDF by toupsz · · Score: 1

    May not fit your desires, but I have been very happy with my first gen iPad + iAnnotatePDF. Combine that with Dropbox, BibDesk (with auto-file), and I now have a database of all the papers I have read / want to read + annotations + all highlighted text searchable.

    1. Re:iPad + iAnnotatePDF by toupsz · · Score: 1

      Oh, and a little custom field + auto-file magic and I get my papers organized by my assigned order-to-read.

      Also, if it's useful at all, my background is human-computer interaction research (so a lot of ACM proceedings papers).

  17. Re:Just who is this Unknown Lamer anyways? by MrHanky · · Score: 1

    Not much is known about him, except that he's unknown, and a lamer.

    Ob. topic, I've only tried a Kindle and a Sony something. The Sony could display PDFs remarkably well for its tiny size (there are bigger ones from Sony, though), and had a touch screen with a stylus you could use for scribbling. E-ink is far better for reading than any traditional screen.

  18. if the by nimbius · · Score: 1

    process of science is to enhance the knowledge of all humankind, why bend to the device that seems to refute and diminish the enhancement of mankinds knowledge?

    in summation: while sometimes cumbersome to pack, and lacking in search features, the technical and scientific papers and books I employ to do science have never stepped intentionally in my path to prevent me from learning or understanding the knowledge they contain.

    until "e-ink" and the 700 page book on my desk are indistinguishable in terms of functionality and accessibility, i say to hell with kindle, nook, and the lot of them.

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    1. Re:if the by mark-t · · Score: 2

      If all you need to have at hand is a single 700 page book, then portable electronic readers probably won't have anything to offer you.

      If, however, you need to have at hand the equivalent of 10,000 pages worth of information (or more), then that's where an e-reader can probably be of help. Paper is heavy... ebooks are weightless... and the reader itself is generally only a few ounces.

    2. Re:if the by b0bby · · Score: 1

      I assume you're referring to Amazon remotely deleting/modifying books on the Kindle - I agree, I wouldn't buy from them if there's another option. If, however, you load on your own content (scientific pdfs), they have no control over that and it's just another viewing device. E-ink and books are never going to be indistinguishable, you just need to weigh the advantages of each format. I've been reading books on devices from my first (non-backlit) Palm Pilot, and I really like the e-ink screens. Pdfs are a pain, though, and there are certain things I'd still prefer to read on paper. Not many, though.

  19. Biig screen by Simulant · · Score: 2

    For PDFs you need a big screen. None of the small screen e-paper readers will do, and judging by my phone, nothing less than a 10" tablet will do either.

    1. Re:Biig screen by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

      While that is certainly true in part, the other issue is that 'reflowing' anything but the simplest pdf's is fraught with peril. Two column scientific papers in particular are hopeless because the PDF format is locked into a specific document size when the pdf is created.

      One option which might help but does involve some know how and initial work is to grab the original TeX of the paper if it is available and switch from two col to one col output and then generate the pdf. You can also trim the margins too. Once you figure this out it will be pretty rote.

  20. Papers on the iPad by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    All we real scientists swear by it.

    Lets you read color PDFs, edit them, and access all the scientific journals and notate them.

    Nothing less works as well.

    Plus it's like 10 pounds sterling.

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  21. What document readers are missing by zmughal · · Score: 1

    I've been thinking about the sorry state of document readers for a while and have surmised that there are several places where the current software is lacking.

    Content and document layout analysis
    Scientific writing is by nature highly structured. So far, I have not come across anything that takes advantage of that and pulls out the semantics of the text. For example, I would love to be able to click on a citation and have that open up either my browser to look it up or grab the document from storage. Other places where the software could improve is in the automatic generation of table of contents if there isn't one or in the recognition of a floating figure/table along with its caption and then allowing the reader to zoom to just that part of the document.

    Annotations
    As I am reading, I must have the ability to take annotations easily and quickly. These annotations must be exportable and editable on any of my other devices. The annotations must be able to be searchable and cross-referenced with other documents and annotations.

    Interoperability
    Each e-book reader use different databases to organize their data into categories or mark a document as read. This should really be open. Furthermore, why is it that I have to plug my device into my computer to transfer large numbers of documents? Why can't I use the LAN to control that particular aspect? I want to be able to search for papers on my computer then just sit back and read through a couple of papers. Having to manage files breaks my flow.

    Other areas for improvement include organization of large libraries of documents, bookmarking (down to at least a paragraph level), and the ability to view multiple documents (or different parts of the same document) at once.

    1. Re:What document readers are missing by zmughal · · Score: 1

      Yes, it turns out great when the author has thought all that through. Unfortunately, a lot of papers I grab online are missing that.

    2. Re:What document readers are missing by Hatman39 · · Score: 1

      In fact, when I do this, I tend to get it back from the editor with the kind request of removing those pesky links. I whole heartedly agree that everyone should use those links, but it seems scientific publishing is having none of it.

  22. Take a look at the current crop of Android Tablets by rafial · · Score: 2

    I have the Galaxy Tab myself, and really like it, but I've also played with an Eee Transformer and was very impressed. I previously had the Xoom, and it was okay, but it's screen wasn't as good as the former two. The 10.1" Android Tablets have higher resolution screens than the current crop of iPads (1200x800 vs 1024x768), meaning a slightly higher DPI, meaning slightly easier on the eyes for reading.

    Honeycomb gives you lots of flexibility as to how you get PDFs on to the device (e.g. via Dropbox, local file transfer, etc) combined with the freedom to then view those PDFs with the app of your choice. Android has a version of Adobe Reader, which while feature light, is pretty much guaranteed to correctly render any PDF you throw at it. For my own purposes though, I typically use RepliGo, which handles most things, is notably faster, and lets you view and add notes in PDFs.

  23. GoodReader on iPad by jasomill · · Score: 1

    No eink, and at this point I'd probably wait for an iPad with a higher-resolution screen, but I've been reading maths papers and books using GoodReader for almost a year now and it works quite well. GoodReader is fast, handles large files well, and has a "persistent crop" feature that's worth its weight in gold: for any given document (and, optionally, for facing pages), you can crop the margins, eliminating the very annoying "turn the page and zoom" phenomenon characteristic of my experience with other readers.

    What others have said about "reading straight through versus skipping around" is quite true, alas: I find myself buying hard copies of any books that I reference heavily for exactly this reason.

  24. Re:Sony PRS 950 by AardvarkCelery · · Score: 1

    PRS 950 screen (7.1") is far smaller than the Kindle DX (9.7"). For reading letter/A4 sized scientific articles, screen size matters.

  25. Re:Papers on an iPad by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    I own papers but I took it off after getting iAnnotate Pro. Tags and your own arbitrary folder structure, plus excellent searchable annotation that you can share and dropbox support. And I find the actual PDF reader, locking zoom, etc. nicer. It lacks the pubmed integration but with the ability for Safari to transfer PDFs that's okay.

    For the story poster, consider an iPad. I tried ebook readers and the inability to scroll smoothly and the flashing when they updated the screen really annoyed me. I prefer to read papers on my iPad to any other way now.

  26. What is it with the word "niche"?? by Demerara · · Score: 2

    FTA: It seems right now that this particular niché is not being served: or is it?

    Why do so many people have a problem with this word? I can put up with the US pronunciation (i.e. "nitch") though I grew up in Ireland and England pronouncing it what I presume to be a slightly French way - i.e. "neeesh"

    But how in heavens did we arrive at "niché "??

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    1. Re:What is it with the word "niche"?? by Unknown+Lamer · · Score: 1

      That was me being a dolt (does anyone want some habañero dip while we're at it?). Move along, nothing to see here.

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    2. Re:What is it with the word "niche"?? by jabberwock · · Score: 2

      I thought it was spelled nietzsche. But that was from only one of my perspectives.

    3. Re:What is it with the word "niche"?? by toutankh · · Score: 1

      As a French I agree "neesh" sounds closer to the original french word. We don't really make a distinction between short and long vowels (to my knowledge at least), so probably something between "nish" and "neesh" is the way we frog eaters pronounce it. Also, we don't move our mouth in the middle of a vowel (it would crush the shell of the snail that we constantly keep in our mouth) so I'd say it's just the same frequency all along the vowel's short life.

  27. Kindle with Duokan firmware by zmughal · · Score: 2

    I am currently using a Kindle 3 with the Duokan firmware and find the PDF readability much better in terms of the interface. It can also handle ePub, HTML, and DjVU. Possibly more formats, but I haven't tried those.

    It has a rudimentary column splitting feature that lets you read the common two-column document format easily without having to continually zoom and pan.

    I particularly like that it actually uses the filesystem to browse for documents, so I can organize the files my own way.

    It also can play back OGG and FLAC in addition to the MP3s you get with the regular firmware.

  28. WeTab by hweimer · · Score: 1

    Depending on your preferences, you might want to have a look at the WeTab. Since it's based on MeeGo you can install basically any PDF viewer you like (xpdf or evince for a slick experience, Okular if you want to make annotations). And no need to hack it, root access is just one sudo away.

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  29. I have tried a lot of them by linuxguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am in the same boat as you. I wanted an ideal portable device for reading PDF documents. Here is what I have tried so far:

    1. Barnes and Noble Nook B&W e-ink device. PDFs simply do not look right on this device.
    2. Barnes and Noble Nook Color. Slow processor and small screen. Some squinting and patience is required to read PDFs on this device.
    3. ipad (1 & 2). Really good PDF rendering and pages turn fast. Downsides are: a) No easy way to transfer documents. Some may consider iTunes easy to work. I do not. b) Lower resolutio and physical size of the display when compared to Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and other similar Android devices.
    4. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7". Very portable and reasonably fast processor. Downsides are: a) Battery drains faster than other modern tablets. b) Small and low resolution screen when compared to its big brother.
    5. Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. This is my current PDF reading device. I use it quite frequently. Display is excellent. Battery performance is outstanding. There are many ways to transfer documents. I just mount a share over the network and drag and drop content. Messing with cables and another computer etc. for doing this is stupid and Steve Jobs should know it. The only downside is that the PDF reader options on Android are not as good. The built-in reader on ipad is really really good. On Android, you have Adobe reader, that is missing some really critical functionality. For example you cannot bookmark a page. I currently use Aldiko. It is OK. It is a bit slow. And appears to render PDFs not as sharp. Also it acts utterly dumb if you switch to landscape mode. There is no way to tell it to fill the width of the screen. So I mostly read my docs in portrait mode and for that it is quite good. I really like the ability to change brightness level without using menus and moving my finger up and down.

    1. Re:I have tried a lot of them by tkdtaylor · · Score: 1

      Doesn't the Galaxy tab come with Polaris office? I have the Transformer and I use the built in Polaris pdf reader which is great, has bookmarks, is very responsive and was already on the Transformer when I bought it.

    2. Re:I have tried a lot of them by tkdtaylor · · Score: 2

      I just found the answer to my own question: http://www.everythingabouttablets.net/2011/05/08/polaris-office-android-market/
      I'd definitely recommend grabbing the Transformer if your primary purpose is reading pdf's. I can't really comment on anything else because that's what I use it for and I'm very happy with it. I still need to pick up the dock/keyboard for mine and once I have it maybe I'll use it for chatting, email etc. but I don't really like typing on a touchscreen so I generally avoid anything that involves a lot of typing.

    3. Re:I have tried a lot of them by drjzzz · · Score: 1

      3. you can transfer to the iPad very easily either by mailing or dropbox or downloading directly (I think... haven't done that recently). No need to use iTunes. As several others have recommended, read and annotate easily with iAnnotate PDF.

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    4. Re:I have tried a lot of them by TheJodster · · Score: 1

      iPad all the way. I just bought an iPad 2 about three weeks ago. It's my goto document reader. Transferring documents to it is quite simple. I have hundreds of them on mine. My PDF reader (Goodreader) has a built in web server so you can just upload your files to it from the computer's browser. You can plug it in to drag the files into the application of choice in iTunes. You can use DropBox. You can ftp into your computer from the iPad. There's ten ways to do this easily and quickly right off the top of my head. The fastest way is to plug in the cable and drop them on the application in iTunes. The USB transfer is very fast.

      I am FAR from a fan of Apple or Steve Jobs but I have to begrudgingly admit that this iPad 2 that I bought is one of the best technology purchases I have ever made.

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    5. Re:I have tried a lot of them by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You may not be aware you don't have to use iTunes to transfer files to iOS devices - and you've never had to. There have always been other options.

      Since nowadays most everyone has a Dropbox account, and there are free Dropbox apps for iOS (as well as most every other mobile OS out there)... I'm not sure why transferring files should be a problem for anyone. And, if you don't like Dropbox, the Briefcase app has existed on the iOS for years - that lets you easily transfer files from another computer over ssh. There are others, but those are the two I've used.

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    6. Re:I have tried a lot of them by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Steve does know it, which is why that's all being fixed in iOS5 (re: messing with cables, needing iTunes as a base etc etc) - and about time. It was one of the annoying things about iOS that I was hoping would be changed. Android had that right from the start.

    7. Re:I have tried a lot of them by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      I did a little more research into various PDF option for Android after posting my earlier comment. And I think I have found a really good one. APV PDF Viewer. It is considerably better than any of the other PDF readers I have tried. Including the ones on ipad. It has a lot of useful features. What's more, it is completely opensource. So if I develop a minor itch, I can scratch without too much fuss.

      I cannot recommend this reader enough.

    8. Re:I have tried a lot of them by drjzzz · · Score: 1

      the subject of this discussion is scientific papers, which are commonly already 'uploaded' and available for download (not true for manuscripts but that is where email or dropbox work great).

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    9. Re:I have tried a lot of them by dachshund · · Score: 1

      GoodReader is a fantastic iPad PDF viewer that includes the capability to mount a share on the network and transfer files that way.

    10. Re:I have tried a lot of them by eealex · · Score: 1

      If you have an android tablet, would recommend you give RepliGo Reader a look.

    11. Re:I have tried a lot of them by jstomel · · Score: 1

      Another thing to consider is that the iPad has some very good apps designed specifically for scientific paper reading. "Papers" on the iPad is not only an excellent pdf reader with good coverflow options, it will sort and arrange your papers by author, year, and journal. It directly searches public repositories of articles like web of science and google scholar and will directly import both from the web and from dropbox, eliminating the need to deal with iTunes.

  30. Nook Color + CyanogenMod + EZPDF Reader by versil · · Score: 1

    I use this exact combination for reading scientific articles and tech specs (diagrams, formulas, and all!) And it makes a very nice Android tablet for $250. EZ PDF Reader also lets you annotate and mark up the pdfs as well!

    1. Re:Nook Color + CyanogenMod + EZPDF Reader by GrantRobertson · · Score: 1

      I have found I prefer Repligo Reader to EZPDF. The latter may be better now, but I preferred Repligo at the time I tried them both, several months ago.

    2. Re:Nook Color + CyanogenMod + EZPDF Reader by RyuMaou · · Score: 1

      I'll second a vote for the Nook Color. I rooted mine, too, with super, super easy instructions from http://nookdevs.com/
      I don't read scientific papers, but I work in IT where a significant amount of documentation is in PDF format. The PDF reader from the Android store, which is free, has performed admirably for me. Different PDFs sometimes need different adjustments and I occasionally have to zoom pages to get them to fit right, but I've been very happy. As others have noted, battery life could be improved some, but it's good enough for my use. At least it gets me through an entire day without a problem, and I just charge it up with my iPhone at night.

      Also, as others have mentioned, the $250 price was definitely a factor in my choice. As was the ability to read ebooks from both Barnes and Noble, natively, and Amazon, via an Android Kindle app. I didn't want to get locked into a single bookstore for all my ebooks! This was a neat solution to that problem, in my opinion. And, again, it handled PDFs very well without having to do any software gymnastics. Oh, and the Dropbox app makes getting PDFs from any of my PCs to my Nook a piece of cake.
      Here's a couple shots from when I first got it:
      http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5507703665_1ffa034af1_s.jpg
      http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5508300506_3fa733191a_s.jpg

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  31. Apple solution ... by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 1

    iPad is my preferred mobile pdf reader. iBooks app is a free download. Decent days plus worth of reading time. Quality hardware. Decent company backing it up with a good warranty. And not likely to pull the plug anytime soon.

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  32. Love My Kindle DX by glatiak · · Score: 1

    I get a lot of documentation, magazines and so forth in PDF format. The Kindle DX has worked well for me. Usually I use it in portrait -- the much higher resolution of the ePaper display makes even the small type of Scientific American crisp. Sure, reading on my laptop is more colourful -- but the Kindle can be read in full sun, so reading on a deck chair is very pleasant. I tried a neighbors iPad under the same conditions and found it almost unreadable -- bright sun makes the Kindle even more legible. Most stuff that I download from the web just gets dragged across the usb -- when connected to a computer the Kindle storage appears as a USB disk drive. You will use categories to group the documents into sensible buckets -- but be aware that it is all artifice and the actual document store is just one big bucket. So name collisions could be inconvenient. If the pdf is a scanned document it sometimes helps to turn the Kindle sideways and read in landscape mode. Color would be nice but for 95% of what I read it is mostly irrelevant. The only problem I have had is that some of the two page high density graphics encountered in magazines (Sciam, for example) take a long time to render and if you get impatient something gets lost. Then the only way to recover is to do a hard power-down/reset. My first DX got the dreaded frozen bar disease -- happened quite abruptly for not apparent abuse on my part. I suspect that the ePaper assembly came delaminated somewhere and this broke electrical connectivity. I have the impression that this is an occasional problem of all ePaper displays. Amazon declined to comment but shipped a replacement out very quickly. And the battery life is very long -- makes it easy to forget that this is a little Linux box with a specialized interface. Ultimately it is an issue of taste -- and we all know that in matters of taste we are all quite mad. The Kindle DX works well for me.

  33. iRiver Story HD Google Ebook Reader ( resolution) by citizenr · · Score: 1

    You want resolution, so I recommend iRiver Story HD Google Ebook Reader
    check out the review(/comparison to kindle) with some info about electronics documentation in PDF format
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWKOoy20Rs

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  34. Don't do it. by Badge+17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    E-ink products will not serve your needs. I'm a grad student in physics, and I tried doing exactly this. I love my Kindle for reading books, but the delay and screen size issues (even on the DX) made reading technical papers, where I often am moving back and forward quickly, frustrating. This leaves aside the difficulties of organization - ereaders are not really designed to have 200+ papers. I suggest getting a tablet instead - the ability to download new papers directly from the tablet is worth the additional money.

  35. Kindle DX or a tablet by JayDiggity · · Score: 1

    The only thing that comes close to an eInk eReader that can handle PDFs well is the Kindle DX ($380). Do not go with a smaller format reader and think you can convert PDF articles to ePub. It turns out really badly - unreadable.

    Back when eReaders were the big new thing, many companies were going to come out with a large format reader. PlasticLogic was going to come out with their Que reader, but it was delayed multiple times and cost something like $600. It was dealt a quick and merciful death.

    The only sensible options today are the Kindle DX or a tablet. I read plenty of journal articles on my Honeycomb tablet, and it's really not that bad. Certainly not bad enough for me to drop $400 on a dedicated paper-reading device.

  36. Pocketbook, iliad or tablet by AlXtreme · · Score: 1

    Found myself in the same boat a while back. Small-screen ereaders are cheap but rather awful for reading regular PDFs, large-screen ereaders are pricey but you can fit a single page on it.

    In the end I went for a Pocketbook 902. They're cheaper than the other 10" ereaders and handle PDF/PS very well, together with a host of other formats and supports wifi+bluetooth. I've read a bundle of papers and a few ebooks on it over the summer and haven't regretted it, in spite of the manufacturer being unknown and the software being 'ok'. It runs on an ancient version of Android but you wouldn't recognize it from the UI.

    Note-taking on it is next to impossible though (no touchscreen). If that's a key feature for you you might want to look at their premium model, a hacked DX or the Iliad.

    I have a 10" Android tablet too (I splurged on gadgets, sue me) but I find reading on it not a lot more comfortable than on a regular monitor. Reading a quick paper is fine, it's great for couch-surfing and handles anything you can throw at it, but if you're expecting to read for hours on end I'd go for the Pocketbook.

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    1. Re:Pocketbook, iliad or tablet by freak132 · · Score: 1

      Check out the Pocketbook 903 Pro. It's basically the 902 but with a touchscreen. It's not available until Oct 2011 but it seems worth waiting for.

  37. eInk by pavon · · Score: 1

    The slow page change in an inherent limitation in current eInk technology, as it has to apply an electric charge to cause small colored balls to move through a viscous fluid to display the image.

    LCD screens, be they transmissive (like the iPad), reflective (like the Eee Note), or tranflective (like OLPC one) don't have this problem, and the later two are almost as nice to read on as eInk.

  38. Sony by Beetle+B. · · Score: 1

    The largest size Sony should do it for you - although perhaps only barely...

    It's not cheap.

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  39. Mendeley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    3. ipad paired with Mendeley works for me. Mendeley (http://www.mendeley.com) allows you to organize your scientific papers with tags, and share them automatically via the "cloud".

  40. Consider the Onyx Boox M90 Reader 9.7" by pandarin944 · · Score: 1

    Aside from the Kindle DX, there are only a few companies that make E-ink ebook readers with 9.7" screens, among them Onyx-International and PocketBook. Among the dozens of formats that the Onyx Boox M90 support are PDFs and CHMs. As a software engineer, I use it to mainly hold some reference books. As a comic book fan, I use it to read cbr and cbz files. The screen size is sufficient for reading all Worx and O'Reilly books. It's got a pretty big fan base in Europe and Asia, but not so much in the US. I actually heard about this device from an attorney friend who uses it to hold notes, exhibits, and opening statements. The Onyx-International M90 reader is the only one that is Linux-based (The GUI is QT). The company has a downloadable SDK that you can use to develop application. I heard that there's some games available for download online for it, but I've only played Sudoku on it. Aside from my experience, you should take a look at some online forums like MobileRead and see what others have to say about their experiences with the devices. Also, the M90 can be found almost anywhere, Amazon, eBay, and on their website at onyxboox.com.

    1. Re:Consider the Onyx Boox M90 Reader 9.7" by iampiti · · Score: 1

      I was going to post something like this. I hope Sony or other big name ebook manufacturer makes a 9 inch device but, for the moment, the M90 seems to be the best eink reader for PDFs. Note that I said eink-based, maybe the LCD tablets are better for PDFs, I don't know, I haven't tried them.
      This is the mobileread M90 thread. There you'll find lots of info about it.

  41. Not e-ink by JanneM · · Score: 1

    I played with the Sony E-reader with the idea that I'd use it for bringing papers to read (yes, it's a Sony, but despite that the e-reader is quite open and format-agnostic).

    In some ways it could work quite well: it has a mode that shows you one quarter of the page at a time, which fits very neatly with the typical two-column format. And the touch screen makes it natural to swipe around in the text.

    But it has two downsides: it doesn't do color, which makes many illustrations unreadable. And there's no way to organize large amounts of papers - no good way to index them or search them.

    Instead I'm going to get an Andy Pad Pro next month. The long format of Android tablets is a good fit for two-column papers. It's the same size as the Galaxy Tab, but with higher resolution screen, and cheap enough that I can justify getting it just as a tech toy even if it doesn't work out as a paper reader.

    Which leads me to a question: anybody know of Android software to index PDF files? Or, optimally, a way to transfer papers directly from Zotero, keeping labels and notes intact? Not likely that last one, I know, but just in case...

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    1. Re:Not e-ink by xtracto · · Score: 1

      I've got a PRS-900 and have been using it for reading papers for about a year. Indeed the default document selection mode is unbelievably clumsy. However after I decided to install the PRS+ firmware it allows me to browse my library using the SD folder structure I have. That is very convenient for me as I had all my PDFs sorted using a folder structure.

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  42. did you actually try an iPad? by reversible+physicist · · Score: 3, Informative

    3. ipad (1 & 2). Really good PDF rendering and pages turn fast. Downsides are: a) No easy way to transfer documents. Some may consider iTunes easy to work. I do not. b) Lower resolutio and physical size of the display when compared to Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and other similar Android devices.

    You don't need to use iTunes to transfer PDFs. There are several hundred PDF readers written specifically for the iPad. I've only tried a few of them but my favorites are Papers, GoodReader and AirSharing, none of which require you to use iTunes for transferring files. Direct access to servers, including mail servers and dropbox, is common. Did you actually try an iPad?

    1. Re:did you actually try an iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have you ever tried one? You can't even *start* an iPad when you take it out of the box without first lashing it to a PC or Mac with iTunes.

      I wanted a TouchPad, but would now buy an iPad if it weren't for the fact that it DOES REQUIRE iTUNES. (And I go a step further than linuxguy by saying I think iTunes is one of the most user-hostile pieces of software still in use. How Apple managed to make *everything* in iTunes a PITA (especially on a PC) is really kind of shockingly amazing....)

      When Apple joins the modern networked world and lets me use their devices without being imprisoned in their "walled garden" iTunes/App Store, then Ill buy thier stuff. Until then, I'm just waiting for something that doesn't aspirate...

  43. Kindle DX by Garabito · · Score: 1

    I use a Kindle DX for that purpose. My experience has been positive so far: It will handle almost any paper I throw at it, no conversion required, most are readable in full page in vertical mode ( some papers will have complex diagrams that will make you zoom & pan to be seen). Although most two-column papers are readable in full page in portrait, many times I turn it to landscape mode to have a better view of the column, and pan trough the document to the bottom of the page.

    As other posters have pointed, the DX is kind of slow rendering pages, so if you need to go back and forth frequently while reading or reviewing a paper, you will find it annoyingly slow. For me, it has been fine.

    In my opinion, to read scientific papers, the Kindle DX is the device to have if an e-ink display is a must. As others have said, an iPad or Android tablet will make easer and faster to navigate trough the paper, and you will be able to read them in full color (every now and then, depending on your field, you will encounter images or diagrams that require a color display). but the active display won't be as gentle to your eyes as an e-ink reader. So, I think it depends on what is more important to you: the e-ink display or the ability to navigate faster trough the paper.

  44. iPad by 602 · · Score: 1

    I bought an iPad 1 about 9 months ago primarily for reading science PDFs. It's fabulous for this.

  45. iPad with Papers by bukharin · · Score: 1

    Papers for Mac is a really great way of organising and viewing scientific papers. For me it was the killer app that made me switch from Linux to Mac as my main operating system.

    The iPad version looks great and syncs with the Mac, providing a very nice solution - easily the best I've seen. A number of my colleagues read most of their papers on their iPad using Papers (usually when they're in a boring meeting!). There's also a version for the iPhone for those with good eyesight... I don't know how well it works without a Mac but according to the website it looks pretty easy to get documents in there from various sources.

  46. Re:PDF expert on ipad by njainsch · · Score: 1

    I had a Sony Daily Edition(?)--the large screen one. While it could display PDFs, it would do horrible things to the formatting. Now I have an Asus Transformer and really love it, especially since the new PDF Reader from Adobe is really pretty good. It's more of a tablet/netbook type thing though, but as an academic at an art school I spend a lot of time looking at PDFs, .docs, and .movs, .swfs and a whole lot of other stuff.

  47. Iconia A500 by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

    If you need easy access to your pdf's the full size usb port is excellent for hooking up usb hd's or sdhc reader. The built in lumireader works well for pdfs, bookmarking ability but no note taking, but faster than adobe. Adobes reflow viewing works good if formating isn't an issue, i.e., not good for reading formatted code. Not bad for reading comics either. NB, a 4x3 aspect ratio like ipad or hp touchpad might work better for some books, all depends on the aspect ratio of the source material you'll mostly be reading.

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  48. Screen too small by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Current e-ink screens, while very nice outdoors, are far too small for a scientific paper. Until there is an A4-sized e-ink device you will not be able to use it to read scientific papers. I've found that using a tablet is the best way to go so far. While the screen is lower resolution and not very good outside the advantage is that it updates very quickly so it is easy to enlarge plots, enlarge the text and scroll around the now too-big-for-the-screen page etc. which you cannot do with e-ink.

    If they ever release an affordable A4/letter e-ink device which displays PDFs then I'd go for that but until then tablets seem to be the best for scientific papers.

    1. Re:Screen too small by putaro · · Score: 1

      Seconded - I thought I'd be able to read papers on my Kindle as well but the print is just way too small.

    2. Re:Screen too small by boristhespider · · Score: 1

      Mod +1. My feelings exactly. eInk screens are too small for papers and don't update anything like fast enough. What's more, a lot of papers come with colour figures, which eInk screens will currently mangle into 16 shades of grey, removing all meaning from the plot. Use a tablet or stick to a screen for now - the time for papers on eBook readers will come in a good few years.

    3. Re:Screen too small by itsdapead · · Score: 1

      Thirded - at least for the regular Kindle (cant speak for the DX). Its great for reading novels in ebook formats where the text can be re-flowed to the screen size, but its poor for reference. There's no problem displaying PDFs but you cant fit a whole page on the screen at a legible size and zooming, scrolling is cumbersome. Unless you really want to read papers on the beach (in which case the DX might be a contender) go for a tablet and spend a buck or so on a souped-up reader app.

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    4. Re:Screen too small by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Does the kindle not let you switch the view to landscape? That should allow you to see half of a PDF page at a time, with full formatting and good size fonts. The Sony readers let you do that and most PDFs I tried are very readable that way, save for a few with fonts that aren't too legible even on a computer screen.

    5. Re:Screen too small by putaro · · Score: 1

      There were some different ways to view PDF's but you couldn't change easily on the fly. Scientific papers tend to be formatted in multiple columns so it's not as though you can just page forward if you put it in landscape mode. You have to read the top of the first column, page forward, and then page back to read the top of the second column. Personally, I didn't like it, others may feel differently.

  49. Yow, expensive! by darrylo · · Score: 1

    Great farking zarquon! I just took at look at those iPad PDF apps -- $10-$20!!!

    When the main purposes are (1) saving your position/bookmarking, (2) annotating, and (3) sending pages/annotations to others, it's a bit hard to justify spending $10-$20 in a $0-$5 app world. The iPad's built-in PDF viewer works just fine, as long as you don't need position saving or annotating (the free Evernote app is decent for saving/viewing PDFs, if you don't need much in terms of features).

    1. Re:Yow, expensive! by drjzzz · · Score: 1

      Good point darrylo, iAnnotate was much cheaper - like $1 - a year or so ago, and it's updated gratis so far. Though $10 is not so bad if you know an app will be just what you need. I would also hesitate to buy a more expensive app with so many alternatives unless I knew it was what I wanted. Too bad iTunes doesn't permit try/buy... I've bought a number of apps I never use after the first couple tries.

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    2. Re:Yow, expensive! by Silas+is+back · · Score: 1

      Well, considering Papers offers much much more than that -- sync the whole Papers-library from the Mac to the iPad (or even iPhone), Pubmed, ArXIV and tens of other online services integrated into the app, matching of PDFs to PMIDs and doi and more -- the price is justified in my eyes. Also, 10$ is not much for software you use daily, that's what you pay for one meal in the cantina -- ONE meal!

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  50. My wife uses her iPad by adenied · · Score: 1

    My wife is writing her PhD dissertation and uses her iPad for this. She loves it. The screen is nice, it renders the PDFs very nicely, and she doesn't have to carry around a stack of 80 odd journal articles when she's writing.

    YMMV of course, but she says it's made her life a lot easier.

  51. iPad + Papers is fantastic by halfdan+the+black · · Score: 1

    Thats the main reason I bought an iPad-2. I read a lot of scientific papers, there is an absolutely fantastic application (Desktop + iPad sync) called Papers, http://www.mekentosj.com/papers/

    Basically, papers manages all your papers, hooks up to google scholar, ACM, ..., downloads, archives and searches papers, and syncs up with the iPad version of Papers, and automatically creates a bibtex database.

  52. Try ezPDF Reader by Fencepost · · Score: 2

    I tried several readers that I had free access to (Adobe, ThinkFree Office included on the phone, Aldiko) and was not pleased with any of them. Little things like not recognizing that a table of contents actually had links to specific locations were deal-breakers.

    I picked up ezPDF Reader from Amazon's AppStore as a free app (normally $2 in Market), but it pretty much just kicks ass. It recognizes links, allows you to display in either text-only or full page rendering, navigates well, and just generally wins. I've been using it with Digging Into WordPress which has quite a bit of very funky layout, and it's been working well. Highly recommended.

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  53. Re:Take a look at the current crop of Android Tabl by fermion · · Score: 1

    I have been playing with Papers to store journal articles across my Mac and iPad. The software is not free, but has been useful. I have not had time to really make it work, but it has proven useful in terms of citations. It is not made for Android, but there may be similar software. I find the ability to work between devices to be a key feature

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  54. I had exactly the very same problem by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    I am a physicist and in my daily job I usually have to keep open and study several papers and textbooks. Most of the documents I study are in electronic format (mostly pdf and dejavu), but paper is still covering a significant part of my desk. I currently use a PC with two large screens, but for looking at my documents I wanted to find something more comfortable and that was easy to carry along my travels (my laptop is a bit too big and heavy, and I am quite tired of bringing it with me). However after trying some ebook readers and tablets I decided that the best thing I could do was to keep my PC/laptop as a reader, and replace the software I used for looking at pdf documents. I switched from Acrobat reader to STDU viewer, it reads pdf, dejavu and other formats, and allows you to quickly open and switch several documents with just a mouse click. I only regret that I don't have a A4 monitor, so I cannot always look at a glance to a full page, however I noticed that replacing the pdf reader greatly improved the way I work.
    IMHO tablets and Ebook readed are still very far from being a replacement to printed paper, and I suspect it will take a very long time before we will see a viable alternative.

  55. A Laser Printer by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

    And a stapler.

  56. Re:Just who is this Unknown Lamer anyways? by UnresolvedExternal · · Score: 1

    Yep, kinda like me - just lamer

  57. annotation? by CSMoran · · Score: 1

    It might be a silly question, but what happens when you want to annotate the paper -- you know, highlight an equation or two, draw an arrow to the margin and add your own explanation and so on?

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  58. My solution by Neil_Brown · · Score: 1

    (I'm not aware of any specific issues relating to scientific journals- my reading is predominantly legal journal articles (usually in .pdf), PDF prints of web articles (converted via Readability), and legislation, cases and the like.)

    I used a couple of eReaders (COOL-ER (no longer trading) and Sony), but, whilst these were great for reading novels, or for casual reading, I did not find them of use for reading academic materials - I wanted to make notes, to highlight sections and the like, which neither of the devices I used supported. I also found the delay in loading the next page disruptive, even with getting used to pressing the "next page" button earlier than I'd turn the page in a physical book / journal.

    I saw no point in an iPad when I first tried one, but, having struggled along with eReaders (and not wanting to carry paperwork, nor struggle to organise it), I decided to try an iPad, running iAnnotate PDF - and I have not looked back. It is not perfect, particularly given the nature of the screen, and the edges, which make it somewhat uncomfortable to hold, but, in terms of productivity for reading, it has been brilliant - I have read many thousands of pages using it, predominantly via iAnnotate, but, increasingly, for text books, through iBooks.

    As well as the ease of reading / annotating on the device, I particularly value the ease of synchronisation, via the PC/Mac server software - I wanted something which could simply expose my directory structure, and the documents within it, so that, if I make a change to a document, it gets synced back, overwriting the original (although this is a preference setting, default is to add a new version), which makes document management so much easier. It works nicely via VPN, so, even if I'm at a conference, I can annotate a paper, sync it back to the server back home, then sync back down onto my laptop. (Perhaps convoluted, but it works...)

    I have not tried it myself, but friends have been using GoodReader, so that might be a viable alternative to iAnnotate PDF, if an iPad-based solution was acceptable.

    I occasionally still read a paper book, but, since I can get most of what I want in pdf / electronic copy (even if that means buying the paper copy, and acquiring a pdf), that's increasingly rare - I've got through the first year of a masters, studying in my spare time, without any paperwork at all, which has made studying much easier. As long as I've got my iPad, I can study wherever I want, and packing a laptop for writing papers and the like is no chore either - brainstorming / mindmapping software is also useful, along with a simple "paper replacement" writing-on-the-screen application on the iPad, for randomly jotting thoughts down (PenUltimate). Paper no more...

  59. Ipad with ReaddleDocs by Faraday's+Sloth · · Score: 1

    Same use case. Love my Ipad. In a wlan network Readdledoc functions as a wireless file server that you can mount as a regular drive on any os, which is exactly what a caveman like myself who uses plain old file system operations for my document management needs. The downside is the IPad's somewhat clumsy overall file management imposed by the ios.

  60. screen width vs columns by backwardMechanic · · Score: 1

    Lots of you have commented that Kindles just don't have a big enough screen for scientific papers as PDF. When I look at the papers I have next to me, they're all formatted as two columns (so your eyes don't lose track of the line you're reading). So what we really need are scientific papers formatted for e-reader. Are any of the major publishers doing this? (Yes, I know we all have a ton of PDFs, but let's look to the future for a moment...)

  61. We tried pocketbook and kindle at our lab by js_sebastian · · Score: 1

    We bought 2 10 inch Kindles and 2 10 inch pocketbooks 903s at our lab, to see if we could use them to read academic papers instead of all those dead trees. Also, a colleague had a 7 inch kindle, so we tried that as well. Most papers we read are PDFs in two-column format, so how well a reader can handle that was perhaps the most important requirement.

    The pocketbook is quite nice, and is also a very open device (it's linux and you can run scripts on it etc), and it has WIFI. Other than that, the readers are quite similar: they have a two-column mode that shows you one column at a time and moves forward correctly. This works well for reading papers, and the ability to do full text search directly on the reader is very convenient. However, when you have to look at a piece of text and the table or figure it describes side by side, dead trees win. For this, the 10 inch models are better than the 7 inches, because you can turn the text sideways and see the whole width of the paper (for those wide figures or tables).

    However, both the kindle and the pocketbook have insufficient features for annotating pdfs: this means they are not really an option for me when working on a draft or reviewing a paper. Furhtermore, I like to scribble on papers I read, so in the end I mostly used the pocketbook for reading novels rather than papers. In the future I think I will keep reading papers on paper until I can get a non-backlit reader that has good support for annotating the stuff you read by scribbling on the touchscreen... in the meantime I'll probably buy a 7-inch reader for reading fiction.

  62. not e-ink but... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    I've been using an ipad + goodreader to view pdfs, and so far it's the single best solution I've been able to find. iPad is a big screen, and goodreader allows you to non-destructively crop empty borders in pages, so you maximize your reading area.

    I wanted an e-reader for the longest time, but thought the current ones were way too overpriced. They still are IMO. I almost went with Notion Ink but I read about people having issues with it. Then the ipad 2 came out, and a reseller was selling original ipads for half price. So, iPad it was. :)

    1. Re:not e-ink but... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention that Goodreader also has amazing annotation capabilities. It's the single most powerful pdf viewer I've seen that runs on a gadget.

  63. I'll get tons of hate for this... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Best one is iPad. I tried everything else and the PDF reader on the ipad works fantastically. Good reader is nice but the one built into iBooks renders fast and correct every time.

    I did not like the choices on Android, but I have not checked for any new ones in 3 months since I switched to an iPad.

    It's not about the hardware, it's about the apps and quality of the apps. and nothing else has goodreader or a better pdf and all other format readers right now.

    Now unleash the foaming at the mouth apple haters...

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  64. iPAD + Papers by spagiola · · Score: 1

    iPad, in combination with the app Papers, is an excellent portable platform for reading scientific PDFs.

  65. I use an iRex iLiad by cgomezr · · Score: 1

    I have an iRex iLiad from 2007 that I use mainly for just that, scientific papers. It's great:

    - PDF's look great.
    - It's eInk. Much better for the eyes than a tablet if you ask me.
    - You can zoom to whichever part you want.
    - The screen is larger than in most of the latest ereaders.
    - There is a third-party reader that you can install for PDF's with column layout, letting you read in column order.
    - The device is free and can work as an USB drive, you can copy the PDF's directly to it or you can plug an USB stick to it, you don't need to care about third-party apps or DRM at all.
    - Last but not least, you can underline things and take notes with the wacom pen on the PDF. It's great for going over drafts of your own papers, or by annotating other people's papers.

    It's a pity that most ereaders released after that have been a step backwards, not forward, in functionality.

  66. Go with a tablet by fincan · · Score: 1

    I have (or had) several e-book readers, as well as an Acer A500 tablet. Even if you hack your kindle, nook etc. to install a proper pdf reader, the real problem is their screen resolution, 800x600. At this resolution, technical or scientific pdf files become very hard to cope with. On the tablet you have a 10 inch 1280x800 screen, which works great for pdfs. I agree that e-ink beats the regular LCDs for reading comfort and paper like feel but a good high res pdf capable device with e-ink simply does not exist yet.

  67. iPad + papers best I've found by quadshop · · Score: 1

    The issue is not just if it is good for reading PDFs - you also need to be able to organize the papers, create citations, make notes (and organize them), and most importantly, actually get the PDFs of the academic papers to begin with. The difficulty of this last one varies by field - some fields (e.g., mathematics) have a more-or-less central place to get stuff (if you are affiliated with a university with subscription access). Others require you to get papers from multiple different online sources, which can be a huge pain. I spent a lot of time on this and the only good solution I've found is the Papers application on the Mac + the purpose-built Papers Touch reader application on the iPad. This combination addresses all of those needs in a way that is tailored specifically for someone doing research who needs to review current scientific papers. In addition to being a graduate student myself, I'm the computer support guy in one of the largest departments at a major research university. For some of my users the functionality in this combination is enough to justify the purchase of a Mac laptop + iPad just for this purpose. While not perfect (having to have a Mac makes it a lot less than perfect if you don't use a Mac already, or don't have budget from your institution to support a purchase), it is the best end-to-end solution out there that I've found.

  68. FYI - background color by assertation · · Score: 1

    If you are stuck on a PC or laptop, Acrobat now allows you to change the background color of a document you are reading.

    It isn't as nice as an ebook reader, but changing the background color from white to gray helps to reduce ( not eliminate ) eye strain.

    FYI, if you still want to print those PDFs out you can be much kinder to the environment by printing with less white space in the margins and of course, doing duplex.

  69. Re:Notion Ink Adam or Adam 2 by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    Looks cool, but I really have no inkling to look at myself in a mirror while reading :/

  70. Entourage Edge (not too bad) by etienne_gr · · Score: 1

    I got an Entourage (now defunct) Edge this spring, for reading and reviewing papers. It's a dual table w/ both eInk and lcd screens. In theory, it could be a great review/read tool: you read PDFs on eInk. A nice feature is that you can select a rectangle on the eInk side (e.g. a color figure) and have it shown on the lcd side. Unfortunately, zooming (important when reading two-column papers) is clunky. Annotation is clunkier still.

  71. Get a tablet with a stylus! by godrik · · Score: 1

    If you just want to read a scientific paper then any color ebook reader with a decet size would do the trick. But my experience with scientific paper is that I want to write on it and I want to draw on it. So somtehing like a nook won't really do it, you do need surface to write. and you need a stylus. If the screen is not at least 80% of a letter, it won't be useful. I tried an iPad and found it too small.

    1. Re:Get a tablet with a stylus! by etienne_gr · · Score: 1

      The Entourage Edge has a stylus and you can scribble on a pdf. But: saving the pdf w/ the scribbles on top results in a bitmap (!) pdf. If you are interested, the EE forums are still very lively.

  72. Notion Ink Adam by pEBDr · · Score: 1

    I have recently bought a Notion Ink Adam for exactly the same reason. The nice thing with it is that it has a Pixel Qi screen, which makes it possible to read outdoors/in direct sunlight, but also a normal back-light mode, to read indoors. I find it absolutely wonderful to read papers/scientific books on. I previously used the Kindle, but I found the refresh time of the screen to be really annoying, as I like to skim large numbers of papers. And that it isn't possible to take notes on a Kindle in a reasonable way really made it rather useless for my purposes. (And then I sat down on it and broke it, making it even more useless.) The Adam is great to skim-read on. I have also bought a small portable USB-keyboard, so I can write longer comments on papers I read, or even write on articles when outdoors. Plus, I can read/write emails, surf and so on. But I must mention that the Adam has a lots of downsides: you pretty much need to have a geekish vain, since the original OS is complete crap (tabletroms.com has a nice pretty stable Honeycomb for Adam, which is great). Moreover, the reflective mode of the Adam really sucks compared to e.g. Kindle, you pretty much have to be in sunlight to see anything. It's quite similar to a Game Boy from 1990. Moreover, Notion Ink REALLY don't want you to buy things from them. Expect ordering time of at least a couple of months, and lots of issues. But I'm really happy with reading scientific literature on mine. Now I only need to buy a waterproof case for it, so I can read while in the bathtub. :-)

  73. I tried to love my Kindle ... by MyNicknameSucks · · Score: 1

    I tried to love my Kindle for reference books, but ... it's not there.

    First: tables are wonky -- they tend to be images that render poorly on e-ink (FWIW, they also render poorly on a PC and iPhone, so I believe it's at least in part a problem with using heavily compressed images).

    Second: the indexes in many reference books are non-functional -- the items are not clickable and, worse, don't have location or page number references.

    Third: it's tough to flip back and forth in different sections (colour-coded tape flags are still miles better than Kindle's marks).

    Fourth: annotating text sucks on a Kindle compared to paper and pen.

    What is my Kindle good for? Novels (I actually prefer reading e-ink over dead tree). Connecting to 3g networks (for free) in foreign countries so I can check my e-mail before I buy a SIM for my phone. I can search references throughout my entire library at once. In a pinch, I /can/ have a complete reference library for brewing in my hand. The first four books of A Game of Thrones is only $10 on Kindle; $20 and 4.4 pounds in paperback.

    But for reference materials?

    Pass

  74. Re:Papers on an iPad by reason · · Score: 1

    I bought Papers and was really disappointed with it. I use GoodReader instead. I imagine Papers may be good if you own a Mac desktop plus papers for Mac. On the iPad, I find it difficult to get new papers into my Papers library, I needed to manual correct each paper's metadata, and the annotation capability was nowhere near as good as GoodReader.

  75. Re:A typcal Ask Slashdot answer by reason · · Score: 1

    The normal Kindle screen is much too small for most PDFs, but the Kindle DX screen is not bad. Both can handle PDFs natively, with some limitations.

    Conversion with Calibre or any other currently available software tends to work well for simple, single-column documents without scientific equations, but gives very poor results for scientific papers (believe me, I've tried).