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There's Been a Leak At WikiLeaks
adeelarshad82 writes "German paper Der Freitag claims it has uncovered a batch of online unredacted diplomatic cables that came from WikiLeaks. Editor Steffen Kraft said he found a 'password protected csv file' that contained a 1.73GB cache of diplomatic cables from WikiLeaks. Its pages contained 'named or otherwise identifiable "informers" and "suspected intelligence agents" from Israel, Jordan, Iran, and Afghanistan.'"
Is that based on the honor system?
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In light of the sensitive nature of the information, Der Frietag has not published these documents, nor provided proof of their existence, but Der Spiegel, another German paper, has chimed in to confirm that they're real.
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Scooter Libby got away with treason, why shouldn't Manning?
Der Freitag is associated with Daniel Domscheit-Berg (DDB) and the OpenLeaks project. I find it curious that Der Freitag "discovered the file on the internet" right when DDB has been making an ass of himself by deleting thousands of documents leaked by whistleblowers, and at a notable point of his campaign to discredit Wikileaks.
I think it's wonderful that WikiLeaks lampoons people of wealth and power, but most intelligence sources are likely poor fuckers like you and me who are just trying to rid their countries of tyranny or terrorists. Posting their real names on the web subjects them and their loved ones to gruesomely violent reprisals.
That's Not Right.
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You are one of many who has repeated the misconception that "information wants to be free" was intended to include information that can be used only to commit fraud using the identity of another.
Personally? Is there some other way of thinking? Impersonally, I think you are insane.
I think similar thoughts when I hear sentences that start with "Honestly". I want to cut off the speaker and tell them, no no, I was looking for a good lie.
William of Ockham had no beard. The most likely explanation is that it was chewed off by squirrels every morning.
I'm registering http://www.wikileaksleaks.org/ as we speak! ;-)
Kevin?????
I think the point is that he's not stating this as what /should/ or /aught/ to happen generally, just what he'd do were he "the decider."
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Isn't it time for someone to simply leak every bit of every document they can get their hands on?
That guy is in jail already.
The force that blew the Big Bang continues to accelerate.
You win, he's a standard loser. I DECLARE THE BOUT OVER.
I love your black and white world where since we tortured, we always tortured, and every piece of information collected was put to use for that. The point the OP was making was that those things are not true, most of them are just trying to stop the people who are torturing, murdering and terrorizing the people in their communities. But it's so easy for you to judge them, having never even begun to approach their situation.
If I can just reach out with my words and touch a butthole, just one, it will all be worth it.
I checked out your link and it confirmed what I suspected to be true all along!!!! GoDaddy and Oil Change Coupons are the fuckers providing all of this sensitive info to wiki leaks. Let's go lynch them.
To see whether or not Mr. Assange and others will feel the least bit remorseful for the deaths of these informers or their families... Or perhaps some poor bloke that just has the same name.
Someone who had enrolled in CIA, participated in setting up of torture facilities in client countries, tortured or assisted in torture or kidnapped people to be tortured or provided information for those people to be kidnapped and .... i cant continue typing this shit. you get my idea. anyone who willingly enrolled and kept perpetuating that kind of shit, cannot be named as 'poor fuckers like you and me'.
In the intelligence world, "agents" are the locals of a country that work for a foreign intelligence service. As in, "poor fuckers like you and me" who for some reason or another have decided that working with a foreign government is the right thing to do. Those people in the CIA that set up the rendition programs are not "agents". Unless, of course, they were working for another government at the time. These terms actually have a legal connotation.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
"There has been no 'leak at WikiLeaks'. The issue relates to a mainstream media partner and a malicious individual."
I love statements including "honestly" -- it almost always marks a lie. This is tremendously more informative than the truth, provided you already know it. Lies can run in so many different directions and reveal the liars mind. So, yes, yes, I was looking for a good lie.
Congrats. You have no idea about intelligence gathering or the intelligence cycle. But you sure can spell torture and shit. Kudos, now stare upon your college dipolma with pride.
This explains why the US is all over this. Manning outed spies, which is considered treason and is punishable by death. Personally, I think that we should put manning and W Bush on the firing platform.
You mean because Bush('s administration) committed the same act of treason?
shut up traitor, or Dick Cheney'll shoot you in the face!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Except that's mostly not what happens. Sure, there's a few assholes out there who take advantage, there always are. Most of these people are simply reporting things like "I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure Ali down the street is planting all those bombs that are killing your soldiers and my neighbors indiscriminately." You see, mostly US soldiers aren't out to randomly and indiscriminately arrest and torture people. Yes, yes, bad shit happened, people abused their positions, it was all over the news and I'm not defending it. There's no excuse for the scum bags that use a war as an excuse for thrill murders, or treat prisoners like dogs. Unhappily they exist, happily they aren't nearly as common as you seem to think.
I spent a year in Iraq. We dealt with these informers regularly. We verified and double checked everything they told us, because that's our responsibility. We caught some people trying to to settle scores or cause trouble. We also caught people with the information we were given. People that did some truly horrifying things. Not just to our guys, to their neighbors and countrymen. At the time I was over there, the bombs killed civilians as often or even more often than they killed soldiers. These days the balance has shifted even farther. The majority of casualties for these types of attacks are civilians.
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That Wikileaks is far too important to keep as it is and as it has been run. It needs to be fully decentralized and immediate, no delays, no central control, no waiting for slow news days, etc. A truly decentralized and secure system with checks and balances and that is it.
Now there is so much confusion and doubt. Is this an agent, is there an agenda, is this a real breach or manufactured, etc? Wikileaks is simply doing the same thing that news organizations and governments do at this point and it serves no purpose... in fact it hurts the entire cause. I have been saying this same thing for years any time Wikileaks comes up in the news and it is almost universally met with negativity and people claiming Wikileaks is perfect the way it is. It isn't and we are toying with something very important and crucial to all of us, true freedom and information.
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Its a leakception!
According to what i understand: The leak is confirmed (1) independently and also by one of the WL partners (4), which claimes it was in relation to Daniel Domscheids Bergs (DDB) return of this data and a human error on the side of wikileaks which resulted in a password and the data being published. It has been known to insiders for some time, claims a known german tech Journalist who wrote (3) in a comment to (1), direct link to his commen (6). Several of these suggest that the handling of the data which was returned by DDB to Wikileaks and the uncontrolled release of the data an password were the reasons for DDB to destroy the remaining WL data instead of returning it. Other sources claim he is wrong.
(1) http://netzpolitik.org/2011/leck-bei-wikileaks-bestatigt/
(2) https://netzpolitik.org/2011/leck-bei-wikileaks/
(3) http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/34/34398/1.html
(4) http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,782923,00.html
(5) http://www.golem.de/1108/85993.html
(6) http://netzpolitik.org/2011/leck-bei-wikileaks-bestatigt/#comment-434548
Somebody should start up MetaLeaks.
Apparently, someone with reading comprehension issues and all the poetry of soul that a thermal label printer might possess disagrees with you...
Manning didn't get away with treason, why should Scooter Libby?
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Who is the most famous fictional agent at MI6?
Did you say James Bond? Or maybe George Smiley? You'd be wrong. They were both officers in the intelligence service. Intelligence sources, "agents", are "poor fuckers like you and me".
There is a good reason why diplomatic cables are usually kept secret.
One must weigh the cost of keeping secrets against the cost of exposing corruption.
Would you prefer a world where wikileaks never existed, and the Arab Spring never happened?
Like all pain, suffering is a signal that something isn't right
While information does want to be free, this is going to get some very good people killed. You know, there are some really evil people out there and it is up to someone to keep track of them. Sometimes that function falls on the people being exposed here.
Keep Doing Good.
It's obvious...you need a leak to confirm the first leak. And now, of course, you need a third leak to confirm the second, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum. It's proof that goverments don't work...the only way to get return values on their methods causes a recursion error.
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Had access to certain cables just like The Guardian. They do not have the password to the file insurance.aes
All cows eat grass!
Publish everything and let the chips fall as they may.
Really? Why don't you tell your wife 'Gee honey, you really DO look fat in that dress' and see how far that gets you.
Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
Interesting that Wiki leaks is revealing (or has revealed) state secret information on countries trying to be democratic like Israel, Jordan, Iran, and Afghanistan.
But countries that blatantly ignore or have questionable human right policies seem to get a pass.
How can you like these guys?
Thanks for the heads up!