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Study Suggests Magnets Can Force You to Tell the Truth
Estonian researchers claim that magnets can either force you to lie or make it impossible. Subjects in the study had magnets placed at either the left or the right side of the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, and the results suggest that the individual was either unable to tell the truth or unable to lie depending on which side was stimulated. From the article: "Last year, researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology also used powerful magnets to disrupt the area said to be the brain's 'moral compass,' situated behind the right ear, making people temporarily less moral."
...how do they work?
"magnets to disrupt the area said to be the brain's 'moral compass,' situated behind the right ear, making people temporarily less moral"
Is that why people on cell phones act like assholes?
Must be the pull of the North Pole influencing their moral compass...
...or feel my right arm.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Modern neuroscience is killing any wiggle-room that might have remained regarding souls and free will. As I've mentioned before, neuroscientists, ethicists, and legal scholars are concerned that "my brain made me do it" will become a reasonable courtroom defense. (No, I'm not talking about the traditional "insanity defense".)
We will eventually be forced to re-think a lot of cherished beliefs about brains, minds, and behavior.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Note that not being able to lie does not imply not being able to tell anything but the truth. Many people telling wrong things actually believe them.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Yeah, I find the whole thing a bit dubious. It's not shocking to me that it might be possible to disrupt brain activity in such a way that a particular patient couldn't fabricate certain kinds of lies, but the idea that everyone's brain has a clear "lies on" and "lies off" switch that can be activated with a magnet.
Reading one of TFA:
The volunteers were presented a series of coloured discs, and told they could tell the truth or lie about the objects' colours while half were being stimulated on the left and half on the right.
Results showed that the eight volunteers who had their left DPC stimulated lied more often, while the ones with the right DPC stimulated were more likely to tell the truth, researchers said.
So it sounds like they were given the option of lying about something with no consequences, and they lied more often with one part of the brain stimulated. It doesn't say that it was "impossible" to lie, or even that it made it difficult to lie when strongly motivated to do so. Maybe it didn't directly cause them to be more likely to lie, but made them feel more whimsical or creative and likely to want to lie in a consequence-free environment.
Then there's the much-overlooked difference between "not-lying" and "telling the truth". I can tell you something false because I'm mistaken, because I'm telling you a fictional story, or because I'm over-simplifying. None of those actions are deceptive in nature, but none of them are "telling the truth".
"No mention of how strong a magnet."
You win a prize for asking the correct question.
It is a TMS. so we are talking about a MRI level magnetic fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation
here is a slightly better article:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128284.400-powerful-magnets-hamper-our-ability-to-lie.html
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Funny story.
Friend of mine was driving back home from grad school for a short vacation. Got pulled over by some state troopers on the way home. Apparently he was driving a road that is frequented by drug runners from mexico and his little compact car was stuffed to the point of overflowing with random possessions. Trooper asks to search his car. He says no.
Trooper then calls in a K-9 unit after mumbling something to himself, which walks around the car for many minutes without once alarming (barking). Obviously annoyed at this damned citizen who won't let him do what he wants, the trooper then moves my friend behind his police car and goes back to the car with the K-9 trooper. My friend sees them kick the car to get the dog to bark, and the troopers come over and inform him that the dog barking gives them right to search the car. They then spend the next half hour throwing his possessions all over the side of the highway. They found nothing and went on their way.
Moral of the story is - it doesn't matter. The more authority we surrender, the more our 'rights' become meaningless in the face of an overwhelming corporate/government bureaucracy that protects its own rights over yours.
How does it feel to be a liar with pants constantly on fire?
Magnetic fields do no work.
Oh, man, you just ruined my day! Those suckers would definitely take this idea and run with it.
TSA rep: "All passengers will place their heads into the magnetic lie detector and answer the simple question: 'Are you a hijacker?' If you answer in the affirmative, you will be detained. Please remove earrings and other metallic objects."
Armed with this technology, they should be able to nab one or two people out of a thousand, and they may even end up with a quota system. I can see it now, a leaked TSA memo: "Have you met your hijacker quota for the month?"
it's = "it is"; its = possessive. E.g., it's flapping its wings.
I tried building a gauze rifle, once. It was very fluffy.
psmylie's dictionary: Godzillion (noun) Any number large enough to destroy Tokyo
Don't worry, this technology will be banned by politicians faster than you can say "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
There is a war going on for your mind.
For those thinking parent's story is just an anecdote and thus not evidence, here's a Chicago Tribune story on some real research into how common this practice is.
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It sounds about as credible as phrenology, so I'll await confirmation.
But in the meantime, think about the impact this would have on society if there was truly a way (temporary, harmless) to prevent people from lying.
How many marriages would survive?
What would happen if 435 congressmen simultaneously "decided to retire...immediately"?
Would the resulting society even be recognizable?
-Styopa
I don't think this will work on politicians. They seem to have a natural resistance against the truth. :-)
However, since they won't be able to tell lies , maybe it will just shut them up. Which is fine by me
Slipping shoelaces ?
Won't work on politicians, because the magnets affect brain function--- meaning that you need a brain first. No worries here.
b.g.
Politicians don't lie. They just don't believe in the truth.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_recoilless_rifle
TSA: What Color is my Shirt
Man 1: Blue
TSA: Hold on... (Flips a switch) Now what color is my shirt
Man 1: Yellow.
I want a shirt like that.