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Facebook Unveils Timeline, Updated Open Graph
An anonymous reader writes "Facebook today announced a new Timeline feature and a new type of social app under its Open Graph. They're not available yet, but almost all the details are finally official."
The only thing missing from the new profile is the ability to set huge animated gifs as my background.
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in the old days people would go to a religious place to think about their importance and place in the universe. in the 21st century you show off your entire life to the world on the internet
Forgive me if my memory is failing me, but didn't Facebook HAVE a timeline about 5ish years ago? You know, back when you could do quizes on your friends' interests, you put your home address up because only your University friends would see it, and there were NO RELATIVES?
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It's simple. The companies FB has partnered with to mine that data want their jobs to be easier. So it's now up to the users to put the connections in there that they either couldn't (due to too much noise, legal concerns, what have you) or didn't want to spend the money on developing. That's what this is all about. Make it voluntary and in most instances you've made it legal. Make it necessary and you have the users doing the hard work for you.
Given how much effort it takes just to get a simple feed of stuff from friends, the way it used to be, I have the feeling that this portends the end of usefulness for the facebook. Perhaps the Oatmeal is right, by 2014 it's nothing but old women playing games who have the time to put those connections together.
In google stock, if you can afford it that is.
"Even I'm irrelevant to the majority."
Thanks for finally owning up, Steve.
"I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
"Everybody hates the new layout and are leaving". Seems odd FB would make such a change right as Google+ registration opens.
I agree that what we put online should be conscious. That said, people have intentionally set up whatever is automatically publishing to Facebook. I have a Facebook account and actually use it for a active group (works like a forum, kind of like Slashdot), and to look at pictures of friends' kids. Facebook does not know my real email address, the contents of my address book, my phone number, or where I'm eating lunch.
I'm not sure why anyone thinks FB should know where you are, but there are people who enjoy these features (bless their hearts). Of course, everyone else blocks these people...
Question your beliefs.
Here's the primary problem with this: Uncontrolled Content Publishing
Hey, welcome to the internet era. We still have the same amount of useful information; what we gained was a shit-ton of noise (my comments included).
The internet has made me hate people way more than I ever thought possible.
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Does it come with auto-on 20 second clips of poor bitrated versions of favourite songs?
Not the consumer. Google or Facebook, it doesn't matter.
Everytime I see someone complaining about people annoying them on Facebook it cracks me up, because the people that are annoying you are people you intentionally befriended. These are your peers. Perhaps turning away from your computer screen for a few minutes for a nice long gaze into the mirror would be useful.
For those that listen to Leo Laporte on TWiT, didn't he mention something similar by some big-name company? This was maybe 2 or 3 months ago. It also used Facebook as a source. Anybody remember what it was?
Their stock didn't go up due to that. In fact it went down more than $100 a share, or16%, from the time google+ launched to that milestone.
Stock price measures many things. Market factors, industry factors and company factors. The first two are beyond Google's control. The phrase "a rising tide lifts all boats" is often used to say not to read too much into a rising stock price when everyone else is also going up. The same is true when everyone is going down.
Even if you only "know" both of them thru some passing knowledge, you can see their private chats and messages so long as 1 of the 2 or (for multi person messages, at least 1) of them has not blocked it explicity.
Oh wait, I meant "dislike".
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I guess you're cool on slashdot as long as you complain about everything Facebook does, regardless of whether it is good or bad. So keep complaining about how it is getting too much like MySpace, or Twitter. Keep complaining about how Facebook is further diminishing your privacy each time a new feature is added. Be sure to include some conspiracy theory. Most importantly, threaten to close your account. Then you'll be really cool.
Complaints can actually be well-founded, and those who dislike the subject of a news story are just as welcome to contribute their opinion. I might suggest that Slashdot's main audience is a little beyond caring about who thinks they're "cool" - didn't you see the tag out front? "News for Nerds"? If you want a hivemind, seek out Reddit or 4chan, though there are plenty of good people in both of those communities too.
Get over yourself. It is no secret that what you put on Facebook is not private. It is not secret that they use your data to drive targeted advertising campaigns.
An open mission or goal can still be objectionable. Dismissing someone's objections doesn't actually mean you've won an argument, or even started one. Doing so simply makes you look arrogant and presumptuous.
You will not cancel your account, so stop threatening to. No one on here gives an ish. Zuckerberg isn't reading your slashdot post either. He doesn't give an ish. So go try your, "I swear I'll walk out of here right now!", on your girlfriend or the guy trying to sell you a used car. You may have better luck.
An "ish"? This is a site for grownups, and you can use four letter words. For example, I don't care one fucking bit for your sneering tone.
Zuckerberg won't read the post, but others will, and ultimately he has investors, employees, and business partners who can be rattled by widespread criticism and rejection of new functionality that's too unpleasant. If nobody talked about things they disliked, or expressed the objections you resent so vociferously, then no one would learn otherwise, and things would simply die off without an apparent cause, or stupidity would be perpetuated. And, for what it's worth, I deleted my Facebook account after reading about the F8 conference.
The timeline is innovative. It allows you to showcase the most memorable or important times of your life. It gives a better idea of who someone is than their most recent status updates. With the current interface, every post is given equal importance. Why would you complain about a new feature that allows you to give prominence to the posts that best define your life? Lastly, this is a feature that sets it apart from the other Twitter style status updates. It fixes a major flaw IMHO. FTFA: "Zuckerberg says the Timeline is “a place that you are proud to call your home.” While the current Facebook profile is completely based on showing all the latest updates, the Timeline is meant to highlight all the important updates of your life."
The timeline sounds time-consuming. I have hobbies, a job, a family, grad school, friends (real ones!). Why would I want to spend more time pondering what's important to the grand scheme of my life every time I want to send out a brief status update? Why would I want to assign a label like "home" to a web page dedicated solely to devouring data about my life to serve up to marketers and advertisers? Why should I bother with a new paradigm that would ultimately make my life more exposed, complicated, and tedious? Every overhaul Facebook rolls out makes the experience more complicated, when all it originally did was serve as a kind of community bulletin board for an inner circle. It's a metastasizing freakshow, and I'm just plain done.
I can only hope your from the near future.
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Complaints can actually be well-founded, and those who dislike the subject of a news story are just as welcome to contribute their opinion.
My point is that there were no valid complaints. In all of the posts before mine, it was the typical knee jerk reaction. Everyone complained, but no one provided any real argument as to why. You were the first one to provide something of substance, about it being "time consuming". Although, I don't see much substance in it. You can post status updates normally, since newer items will be appear at the top unless you chose to weight them.
Zuckerberg won't read the post, but others will, and ultimately he has investors, employees, and business partners who can be rattled by widespread criticism and rejection of new functionality that's too unpleasant. If nobody talked about things they disliked, or expressed the objections you resent so vociferously, then no one would learn otherwise, and things would simply die off without an apparent cause, or stupidity would be perpetuated.
Maybe, maybe not. It is likely that they get their feedback from people posting complaints on Facebook itself. Regardless of that, with constructive complaints, the first few posts on here were a waste. In order for the system you described to work, people need to express what they like or do not like constructively.
An "ish"? This is a site for grownups, and you can use four letter words. For example, I don't care one fucking bit for your sneering tone.
Thanks for proving my point about being cool, by showing me how you can swear on-line, and suggesting I do the same.
There's one annoying behavior in FB, not fixed until the last time I verified it. When you comment something on a person's wall, such comment appears in all your contact walls, and there was no way to avoid it, supposedly because the owner of such wall must decide that, not you. How hard was to build, via programming, a feature that would allow the option 'This message will be visible only in this wall' or 'Do not allow this comment to be forwarded to other walls'?
How do you do that then?
... is the really, really slick new timeline features. I'm having a hard time coming up with anything negative to say about the new timeline based layout. For those of you that have enabled it, what are your thoughts? I'm actually very impressed, and I think Facebook just leveled from my perspective.
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Walls are public. If you want to send a message to a user privately, send them a message. Durr.
I don't have any posts like those on my newsfeed. Your problem is the people you call your friends, not Facebook.
[Well I did once have someone who posted "Going to the fridge" and another who did nothing but play stupid farmyard games. But they were rapidly hidden. Just like email, the tools are there to improve the signal to noise ratio.]
US version only. Click on Friends - check subscriptions - enable only those you want enabled. Shows up on Home in the upper right corner.
Note if one friend has permissions (by default) enabled, you still get to hear both friends even tho one turned it off.
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I don't see anything to do with chats there.
You have to have chat on - if you disabled it (because it's really annoying) you won't see it.
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I already said what was innovative about the timeline. I don't need to repeat myself. You could also try reading the article for yourself.
I'm not sure why you are comparing a forum, or e-mail, or RSS to social networking.
It's the kind of thing I'd love to see an open version of, that I could run on my own servers and leave to my children. Sadly, filling in all that data for FB's use just ain't going to happen.
with Zuckerberg being the puppet master, selling off access to our life stories to corporate marketers.
Facebook does not know my real email address, the contents of my address book, my phone number, or where I'm eating lunch.
Maybe not - but it's pretty trivial to obtain, for those they sell your data to. Facebook has a limited amount of data that you type in. Add in login times and ip address/es. Others data sources (the sort that Facebook sells information to, can add to, and validate that information. And proxies are only as anonymous as any of the routing hops. Then there's your Fffacebook fffriends (any of them use MS live?)
That's tin foil hat stuff of course and should be dismissed as paranoia.... Except it's also abilities currently being hawked for data mining - both for "anti-terrorism" and "marketing". You may believe you're only half serious - but it's likely you're much less so.
(*)This example is not actually true
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Chat != Wall posts
of course chat doesn't equal wall posts.
However, multi-person chats and chats between two people that are friends without permissions both turned off to you do in fact show up.
Had fun for a couple of days repeating what I overheard in my status so that my friends realized the whole world could hear them - or their moms might find out ...
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But apparently FB cleaned this up; I haven't been able to replicate it today.
The best part; ppl I warned about it DIDN'T CARE if "only FB" could see the chats; they were concerned primarily that their chats might be broadcast to the world. *facepalm*