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Phelps Clan Tweets Intent To Picket Jobs Funeral Via iPhone

It comes as no surprise that Margie Phelps of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church has already declared the church's intention to picket Steve Jobs's funeral. What is interesting, is that she did so using an iPhone. The 142 characters of wrath read: "Westboro will picket his funeral.He[sic] had a huge platform; gave God no glory & taught sin. MT @AP: Apple co-founder Steve Jobs has died at 56."

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  1. Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny
    You missed the best part when she defended herself:

    Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell you Steve Jobs is in hell.God created iPhone for that purpose! :)

    She's just confirming what Apple fans already knew: God works at Apple.

    That's a bittersweet reminder of my Roman Catholic upbringing. Whenever I did something good like played the trombone well or scored well on a test, I was instructed to pray to Jesus for working through me to do something so good. Whenever I screwed up, well, all those powerful forces like God and the Devil were suspiciously absent and the fault was solely mine.

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    1. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also: Whenever life is going well, praise the lord for your good fortune. Whenever your life hits a snag, your faith is being "tested".

    2. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ok, I've swung to the other side about WBC. These people are not sincere.

      They just want to make headlines, and publicity is the only god that they worship.

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    3. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm an adult with faith but his complaint seems more than warranted.

    4. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by lymond01 · · Score: 2

      Umm...but that's sort of common in Christianity. "Praise God the doctor saved him!" And then, sure, when you miss the throw to first in little league, you receive an entirely different exclamation to God.

      The doctrines of many religions seem to mean well. It's the practitioners who cause the problems. So if THAT'S what you meant, then I'm cool with you. :-)

    5. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by lymond01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm guessing the Phelps aren't like this, but I remember reading a letter to the editor in some mainstream magazine where the author said something like, "I don't understand how people can act this way. Their souls will be delivered to eternal torment in Hell. We HAVE to keep trying to change them to prevent that!"

      Despite religion being mostly a community of mythologists, some people feel that Hell is as real as an oncoming bus while you're standing in the road. You NEED to listen! You need to get out of the road! Can't you see!

      It's a little spooky.

    6. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Jawnn · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry your childhood was rough. Please, don't attribute that kind of harsh upbringing to a religion.

      Your joking, right? I mean come on. The Catholics have certainly refined institutionalized guilt, but the notion that we are inherently flawed and need the intercession of some invisible man in the sky goes all the way back to the book of Genesis, and that notion is the very foundation upon which all Abrahamic religions are built. Harsh upbringing (and worse, much worse) may be directly attributed to this bullshit all too often.

    7. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You thought they were sincere?

      Their whole schtick is to be assholes and then sue anyone who confronts them.

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    8. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by dougmc · · Score: 5, Informative

      They just want to make headlines, and publicity is the only god that they worship.

      They want publicity, yes. Because they want somebody to assault them or violate their civil rights, so they can sue.

      This page explains how they work pretty well. Basically, they're all lawyers, and the moment something happens, they sue, and all their paperwork is perfect.

    9. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by SleazyRidr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
      Then he is not omnipotent
      Is God able to prevent evil, but not willing?
      Then he is malevolent.
      Is God both willing and able to prevent evil?
      Then how does evil still exist?
      Is God neither able, nor willing to prevent evil?
      Then why call him God?

    10. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by ocean_soul · · Score: 2

      If god created the iPhone, how can they claim Jobs didn't give god glory?

    11. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He was not unique. I can attest that all Catholics are indoctrinated this way. It's been said that the quickest way to become an atheist is to grow up in a Catholic household, because of this kind of religious mindscrew.

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    12. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 2

      iProfit more likely

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    13. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by mellon · · Score: 2

      Or, really, "praise God, the doctor saved him from the deadly disease that God gave him." Whether you believe in God or not, this is a completely nonsensical statement. And as you say, as far as I can tell it's not really the message that the Christian church was supposed to be teaching anyway. Sigh.

    14. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by nhat11 · · Score: 2

      This isn't about religion. The Westboro uses religion as a facade to piss more people off or to make more hate like you. And it's working. They're just plain hateful people.

    15. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Rolgar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Fred really got going in '92 or '93, and I had a couple of friends that would counter protest over the next few years before we left town for college or military service.

      I'll tell you this, they sincerely hate the people they protest. You can sense it in them when they are around, although their usual weekend rounds at the local churches is usually pretty low key other than the obscene stick figures on their signs, which I don't care for my kids to see.

      What Fred's family really gets out of this though is that their protests bring condemnation. I suspect they sell this to the congregation that they are being good Christians being persecuted like the early Christians who were tortured and executed by various means. By ostracizing his followers from everybody else in town, they reinforce their members' dependance upon one another like any cult, and the family probably sees pretty good revenue in the collection basket.

      A couple of his kids (he has a very large family, 2 or 3 are at odds with the rest of the family) wrote a book about Fred and the things that went on during the 70s and 80s. I think I once read some of it online. Very disturbing stuff.

    16. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 3, Funny

      Frankly, journalistic style sheets need to be updated so that they are always referred to as Westboro Baptist "Church", including requiring TV presenters to make finger-quotes when using the word "Church".

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    17. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Applekid · · Score: 2

      I'm an adult with faith but his complaint seems more than warranted.

      Sounds less to do with the religion and more to do with those practicing it. What makes religion religion as opposed to a mere collection of rituals and superstitions are the people that indoctrinate. Sometimes they take a path of free knowledge and guidance, sometimes the path is to beat it into the heads of the young.

      I know which of the two paths represent at worst a benign influence on human civilization and which path at best is responsible for intolerance and oppression.

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    18. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They make a profit by suing counterprotestors

      They are media whores and scammers. Don't feed the trolls kids, they'll bite your head off for the main course.

    19. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by DJLuc1d · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can attest that all Catholics are indoctrinated this way.

      I can attest that not all Catholics are indoctrinated this way. I can however attest that people with a narrow mindset will say things like this.

    20. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by gtbritishskull · · Score: 2

      Why can we not judge a religion based upon those who practice it? I thought that the purpose of religion was to mold behavior (telling you how to live a "good" life). Shouldn't it also teach people how to teach the religion "correctly". How do you know you don't have it backwards? Maybe your experience is the "exception" that we should ignore yours and just look at the other path to judge the religion. Or did you really mean to say that when judging a religion (or just your religion) we should just look at the good aspects and ignore the bad ones?

      I think that a religion should be judged based upon ALL of the people practicing it, good and bad. Talk is easy. Actually living that talk is where a religion is judged.

    21. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by somersault · · Score: 2

      Or someone should do something more long lasting than a punch, like chopping their balls off, and see how funny they find it then.. that would really "fix" their wagon :p

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    22. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Jaysyn · · Score: 2

      -- Epicurus

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    23. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      So was it HUMANS or GOD doing the molestation?

      You've missed the point of the post.

      It's irrelevant if humans or god were doing the molestation. It's the fact that god either allowed it to happen through inaction, didn't know it was happening - or worse knew it was happening and didn't do anything about it. Either way, god is not what Christians purport him to be.

    24. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by peragrin · · Score: 2

      That is why your confused. The purpose of religion is to make you feel better about the choices you make, and to make you a part of an extended family so you can feel like you belong.

      Humans are lazy. The easist way to feel good about yourself is to compare yourself to some one else. So you find or make up something that you dislike about another person that you can push them below you.

      Some try to step above such pettiness but few really do.

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    25. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      Actually, I thought the Comic-Con counter protest was the best response to the Phleps family that I've ever seen. It reduced them to ridicule and, via sheer numbers, made them seem pathetically small to boot. (About 4 Phleps followers versus dozens, if not hundreds of Comic-Con "protesters.")

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    26. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by geekoid · · Score: 2

      "What makes religion religion as opposed to a mere collection of rituals and superstitions are the people that indoctrinate."

      that IS religion.

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    27. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 2

      "Nor does the church promote it" my ass. Why do you think there are all these other Catholics and ex-Catholics in here going 'oh yeah I had the same experience!' Did it ever occur to you that maybe your specific parish was the odd one out, if indeed, and I rather doubt, it was. My wife was raised Catholic and she dumped the religion in part for the same reason. She experienced the same things both at church and in her parochial schools. It's systemic, and either you were extremely lucky (more likely extremely blind) or you're just lying to cover up the reality of emotional manipulation and abuse in your cult.

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    28. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by geekoid · · Score: 2

      No, but it does make you irrational.

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    29. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by couchslug · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your reply is suspect because Catholics must defend their faith and honesty is not required by your Church in dealing with outsiders or the flock.

      I cite the ONGOING pedophile scandal(s) throughout the Catholic world as examples. There is zero reason to believe your assertion over the FACT of more than ONE BILLION dollars being paid out in settlements/hush money and the FACT of pedos being hidden from the law and the FACT that this was systematically done.

      Even the Vatican's most primitive followers are sometimes having second thoughts.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/world/europe/ireland-recalibrates-ties-to-roman-catholic-church.html

      Before anyone mods this Troll, use the search engine of your choice and have a look at Church exploitation and corruption worldwide.

      So far only one predator got real justice:

      http://articles.cnn.com/2003-08-24/us/geoghan_1_joseph-l-druce-worcester-county-district-attorney-defrocked-roman-catholic-priest?_s=PM:US

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    30. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by oudzeeman · · Score: 2

      I was brought up Catholic, my parents were involved in the church choir, but we almost never talked about god or religion outside of church. We were never taught to give god thanks for everyday things. All success or failure was attributed to us. My parents would have considered themselves very spiritual, in her later years my Mother loved to read books about saints, and she made a pilgrimage to France. But I never felt like religion was part of our day to day lives. As a kid it was an hour a week, maybe two if we were doing "CCD" (religious education). I think they would be pretty upset to know I don't really believe, but they never mentioned having my son baptized, or the fact that we did not attend church.

    31. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by marnues · · Score: 2

      No it doesn't. Fully believing the theology of any religion is irrational, but being a religious follower for the community and spiritual insight is incredibly rational. I envy the Mormon church, not for their horrible history or laughable theology, but for the community and real ethical teachings. No atheist is part of a community so focused on being a good person and striving for the good life.

    32. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by couchslug · · Score: 2

      Christians acting like Christians merit publicity.

      The body count of their murderous superstition down the centuries stands witness that churches are more than just social clubs for the old and stupid.

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    33. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by Empiric · · Score: 2

      Evil enough to eliminate all human free will to avoid any incidence of it? No.

      That would be "evil", not "good", to do.

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    34. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      That might be the official press release... but...

      I really hate the fucking fucks that gave these twits national audience or some semblance of credibility. They were annoying enough when they stormed into Lawrence KS 20 years ago. May they rot in hell.

      Can't someone get the IRS involved...?

    35. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by thejuggler · · Score: 2

      The Westboro Baptist Church is not Catholic, or Christian. They are a Cult that claims to be Christian. The reality is they are pretty much a single (maybe inbred) family that calls themselves a church.

      I am a Christian Biker Geek
      This means I am Christian first and an avid motorcyclist and a programmer and systems administrator. I also ride with the Patriot Guard http://www.patriotguard.org/ to help shield families of our fallen heros from these despicable people of this so-called church.

      Please do not confuse these people for actual Christians.

    36. Re:Her Defense Was Pretty Good Too by mug+funky · · Score: 2

      i'm pretty sure they don't have to dunk you in magic water if you want to become an atheist.

      the problem is there's no "exit ceremony" in these wackjob cults except ones involving death. if i could be un-baptised, i would. until then, i consider myself an atheist.

  2. Attention Whores by recoiledsnake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing but attention whoring, they shouldn't be given press at all.

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  3. This has to be a troll by macmacaman · · Score: 2

    Even a Westboro Baptist idiot has to realize the irony...

    1. Re:This has to be a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course they do, they're a family of professional trolls - literally. That's how they make their money. Spout off a slew of hateful garbage, push people to the breaking point, and let the lawsuits fly.

    2. Re:This has to be a troll by Monchanger · · Score: 2

      This is actually worth exploration.

      If you know about how the Phelps cult works, you know that alongside brandishing their ridiculous picketing signs, they like to sing reworked versions of mainstream music. I recall hearing them do a modified version of a Gaga song not long ago. You could take them to court and sue for creating derivative works and unlicensed public performances. Considering they are making money doing this, there's definitely room to demand damages.

      I'd love to see them try to defend themselves against some real (expensive) lawyers.

  4. Mistake by bonch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Westboro Baptist Church doesn't want to incur the wrath of hardcore Apple fans. They just don't know it yet.

    1. Re:Mistake by Beelzebud · · Score: 2

      Their cult is about to find out what happens when you mess with real fanatics!

    2. Re:Mistake by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2

      I'm readying the pitchforks right now.

      Wouldn't Vaseline or Crisco be more appropriate?
      Imagine the headlines: Westboro thugs brutally buggered by impassioned Apple fans. SF police stand idly by, thinking it's just a wild party they weren't invited to.

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  5. I can't wait to see them come out... by tonywong · · Score: 2

    And get mobbed by hundreds of Steve Jobs and Apple supporters. And everyone including the the WBC will be carrying iPhones. Zealot on zealot action at 11!

  6. Preview of their signs by bwintx · · Score: 2

    "HELL IS INSANELY GREAT"

    "GOD HATES VISIONARIES"

    "BLACK TURTLENECKS CAUSE CANCER"

    Unfortunately, these are probably 'way more intelligent than what these assholes will really display.

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  7. Why spread the vile? by CTalkobt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why do people help these people spread their vile?

    Posting stories on Slashdot / Putting it on CNN is only helping them get what they crave : Attention.

    Some problems are best ignored - then they'll fade away out of frustration when they realize they're not getting the attention.

    Blah blah - free press - I get it. I'm not asking for a law but common sense to take place.

    People love dirty laundry - D. Henly.

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  8. Media Wh**es by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What attention wh**es. They are like the Kardashians with a bible instead of a sex tape.

  9. I think you meant "bile"... by neiras · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do people help these people spread their vile?

    "Vile" isn't a thing one can metaphorically spread.

    Unless you're talking Vegemite or Marmite - that shit is spreadable vile incarnate.

  10. Patriot Guard by Ganty · · Score: 4, Informative

    All we need are the Patriot Guard in black turtlenecks to even up the numbers.

    www.patriotguard.org

    Ganty

  11. terrorists by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't you look at these people, who cheer when others die and think - wish I had a military drone of my own on stand by?

    1. Re:terrorists by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      No, I will be totally saddened by their sudden demise, you won't see ME cheering.

  12. You Misunderstand My Fond Anecdote by eldavojohn · · Score: 2

    I'm sorry your childhood was rough.

    I'm sorry if I lead anyone to imply my childhood was rough. That was merely an anecdote about how people "with faith" often see a given event or action. Then after the event or action is prescribed to be "good" or "bad" (often subjective in and of themselves) they will say that it was "God" or the "Individual" at work. This often perplexed me as a child and, like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, its place in the toolbox of control became very clear to me later in life around age 16. I do not call this abuse of any kind, I see this as a method of control that was particularly effective with me.

    Please, don't attribute that kind of harsh upbringing to a religion.

    Good sir, there was nothing harsh about it. It is, however, a core concept of (nearly all) religions. An eye in the sky that can magically be anywhere and everywhere at once? That knows everything? That is free to judge me without fear of judgment of itself? A being I cannot communicate with? A being of somehow infinite goodness that is so powerful and unknowable that it's okay to let children in Africa starve to death -- children who have never had the opportunity of knowing Jesus? I have often mused that Roman Catholics would rather you believe in Satan (or Shai'tan or whatever) than God as fear will keep you in line. As a child, I definitely feared God more than anything else. And I assume you're a god-fearin' man.

    Now that, my friend, will keep a young boy in lock step. It did for me and I'm not opposed to rear my children the same way until they are 16 and the same books that fell into my hands start falling into theirs.

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    1. Re:You Misunderstand My Fond Anecdote by mellon · · Score: 2

      Well, actually, if you look at what a lot of mainstream Bible Belt churches teach, it's actually Satanism. It's not just using Satan as a threat: it's genuinely worship not of the God described in the New Testament, but of a God who plays favorites (Satan, not the Christian God, who causes it to rain on the just and unjust alike). Who rewards his followers here on earth, not in Heaven. Who encourages us not to turn the other cheek but to answer any injury with a far harsher injury, likely delivered randomly rather than actually to the one who causes the initial injury. Who loves those who sing his praises in public, but who turns his back on those who have a more personal relationship with him.

      I don't personally have a problem with people following the religion of their choice, but really, we ought to be clear about just whom it is that they are worshiping. It sure as Hell isn't the God Jesus spoke of.

    2. Re:You Misunderstand My Fond Anecdote by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's the god that Jesus said was his father. The god who sure as hell played favorites with a "chosen people" who were given divine commands to kill all the infidels, not to mention all the petty squabbles about birthrights among the leading patriarchs and progeny.

      Your "Christian" god is heresy, as you're describing the conception of Christianity as viewed by Marcion of Sinope, who was excommunicated for it.

      Christians would do well to research their religion fully, and they will perhaps realize their religion is morally detestable, and that anybody who opens their eyes and questions it is kicked out, lethally if the tempora's mores are willing. (Forgive me, Cicero.)

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  13. But they HAVE to be given press by Shivetya · · Score: 2

    so the in crowd can head nod and act all smug with their belief that all Christians or people of faith are really like this. For no other reason is such a person newsworthy, it is very much like the bit on Scary Movie, The press only wanna interview the most ignorant person they find.

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  14. Steve Jobs is God by Quick+Reply · · Score: 2

    You clearly misunderstand: God created iPhone, therefore Steve Jobs is God, and that means that they picketing God's funeral.

  15. Oh dear, no by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2

    but the notion that we are inherently flawed and need the intercession of some invisible man in the sky goes all the way back to the book of Genesis

    It cannot go "all the way back" because in reality Genesis (from its first word in Hebrew, Bereshit) is one of the later books to be added to the canon. It is a convenient reference of creation myths of several Middle Eastern societies, put in by a society that really wasn't that interested in how things started. It was the Catholic Church first, and then the Protestants, that gave it an authority it did not have.

    That's why in the "real" Bible, all that original sin and guilt stuff is missing. David goes off and totals a load of Palestinians and they make him king. A couple of spies get into a city with the assistance of a kindly (if dim) prostitute, and nobody thinks to try to get her to mend her ways ("While we're putting this city to the sword, just have a read of this tract about raising fallen women"). The writer of Ecclesiastes is close to pessimistic atheism. Many of the people who get a good Press in the Bible are mass murderers (who had good scriptwriters.)

    I'm sorry, you cannot blame the Jews for the idiocies of Christians and Muslims. And Islam postdates the start of the Catholic Church. I, as a one time student of sociology of religion, put the blame squarely on the Romans, and the rules they invented to keep the Plebians under the thumb of the Patricians.

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  16. Re:Taught sin? by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 2
    The evil of Apple been known for some time. See this website:

    http://objectiveministries.org/creation/propaganda.html

    Some choice quotes (since it is a long article):

    "the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! "

    "Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an "Open Source" license, which is just another name for Communism. "

    "Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple by the serpent."

    "This OS -- and its Darwin offspring -- extensively use what are called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- they are notoriously poor spellers: magick, vampyre, etc.) "

    "to open up certain locked files one has to run a program much like the DOS prompt in Microsoft Windows and type in a secret code: "chmod 666". What other horrors lurk in this thing?"

  17. Bring It On, Assholes by Bemopolis · · Score: 2

    Considering their attention-whoring targets are the likes of military funerals and Mr. Rogers, it would be a fucking honor to have made these douchebags' lives miserable enough to justify them picketing my funeral. Sic semper cuntannis.

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  18. Isaac Asimov by geekoid · · Score: 2

    “If I am right, then (religious fundamentalists) will not go to Heaven, because there is no Heaven. If they are right, then they will not go to Heaven, because they are hypocrites.”
      Isaac Asimov

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