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iPhone 4S Has Been Jailbroken, Hack Enables Siri on iPhone 4
Diggester writes "Unless their chipset has already been exploited and jailbroken on a previous device, it takes a lot of time for the iOS jailbreaking community to jailbreak for a new iOS device. The iPhone 4S and iPad 2, both of which are based on a still unexploited dual-core A5 chip, haven't received a jailbreak for iOS 5 yet. However, it appears they'll be getting one soon, as a certain eminent iPhone hacker has let us know that the iPhone 4S has jailbroken, and a jailbreak for the iPad 2 is in the works." In related news, Hackers have succeeded in bringing a limited port of Apple's new Siri voice assistant feature onto jailbroken versions of the iPhone 4 and the fourth-generation iPod touch.
I'm confused. Are we supposed to complain about having to jailbreak the 4S or whine about how dumb Siri is?
You shouldn't make these threads so complicated.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
meh... they want to give people a reason to upgrade to 4S from 4
Apple could've easily built a larger server farm to handle the larger load. They chose not to.
Slashdot actually allow you to skip the news you don't want to read - It takes zero clicks to be accomplished.
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I would hope a more fair assessment of the Slashdot "we" would categorize us as people who recognize that Android and iOS are both very significant mobile platforms, and are thus neither surprised nor outraged when an important milestone on a product with millions of current or future users is reported here. Especially a milestone likely to be directly of interest to a "hacker" community.
So I would instead say: the rest of us are well-adjusted enough not to take the slightest pretext to open up a platform religious war of in which everyone is already fully aware of the pros and cons on both sides.
Since there's not much of a technical reason the iPhone 4 cannot have Siri, I think a big part of why it's only on the 4s (and not even the iPad 2) is to help Apple understand server load from the service before it goes live for 100 million+ people.
Are you kidding? It's a big part of the product differentiation for the iPhone 4s. They just launched the iPhone 4s and made a big deal out of the new voice assistant, Siri. They want people to buy the iPhone 4s for the new voice assistant, Siri. And you're wondering if the reason that they only make the new voice assistant, Siri, available for the iPhone 4s, the phone you'll have to buy if you you want the new voice assistant, is because they want to understand server load???
furthermore, slashdot even allows users to exclude stories by topic...
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Then you will want the 5 for more gpu, cpu, 64 bit and the next gen of games that will never work on any 4 ect.....
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Since there's not much of a technical reason the iPhone 4 cannot have Siri, I think a big part of why it's only on the 4s (and not even the iPad 2) is to help Apple understand server load from the service before it goes live for 100 million+ people.
That plausible but I'd suspect a couple other reasons too. First, when you rollout something new you want to make sure it does not get a reputation for sucking. One way to do this is to roll it out only on the best machines. And also as you say a smaller foot print helps control things. Second, I'd bet it is full of debugging code and is not optimized. It is known already it chews batteries. If you put this on older phones with tired batteries it's going to get a bad reputation.
So there's reasons besides the naked one of forcing upgrades.
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meh... they want to give people a reason to upgrade to 4S from 4
I think considering that the iPad 2, which has a faster processor than the 4s doesn't have Siri, this is a very strong probability.
I'm annoyed that I haven't found much in the app store that takes advantage of the new processor.
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It is natural that a lot of people would be going hog wild over Siri at first, greatly overusing that service for a while until they settled down into what would become the typical usage patterns. By rolling it out more incrementally, Apple didn't need a massive amount of infrastructure for just a short period of time, and thus they won't be stuck with a massive amount of unused surplus server power that was only really needed for the initial release of iOS5 (if Siri had been enabled on iPhone 4 devices).
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My brain may be addled, but I believe I was using Siri as a stand-alone app on my 3GS already, before it was bought up by Apple? As it's own app, it was not as good as the integrated thing it has become, but it was okay for searches. I also was using Apple's own voice recognition on my 3GS 2 years ago to dial numbers or "call home" or what not. Wasn't terribly good, which is why I hardly used it, but all I had to do was press and hold down the single button until it came up.
The reason it's not on the 3GS/4 is to make it an exclusive feature on the 4s as a reason to upgrade to it. Not that I care. I bought mine on the features it had at the time, not future promises. What make the 4s worth my while is the factory unlocked version coming to the US in November that's compatible with all networks (Verizon, Sprint, ATT, GSM worldwide). Since I travel internationally to a select few countries, I'm really anticipating a phone where I can swap out native sim cards at will, so I don't have to pay the ridiculous international roaming fees or carry 2 phones.
But they also continue to sell the iPhone 4, and even the 3Gs. Yes it is something of a differentiator but a new customer would likely end up with a 4s anyway, if for no other reason than the camera is much better.
yes true, but if siri was enabled on a 4, then less people who already have a 4 would upgrade to a 4s.
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
FYI, the unlocked version is GSM-only. (Fine print at the bottom of http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone/iphone4s )
I wouldn't use it to book flights.
"Watson, I need a flight to Chicago."
"Booking your flight for Toronto; would you like an isle seat or WHAT IS LEG?"
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
two cans and a string work without the antennas or service.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
that you have to preface your post with a disclaimer about the intensity of your dislike for a major corporation that doesn't know you exist? It speaks to something very sad about this community when you have pledge your intifada-like hatred for Apple as the intro to any post which is even tangentially related to Apple.
It would save time if you could just use a quick arm gesture and short phrase to make your allegiance clear. Maybe just shoot out your right arm straight at a 45 degree angle above the shoulder and say, "Heil, Google"--something like that.
Siri was, of course, available as an app for iPhones going back to the original 2G, correct? And on 4S launch day, Apple (having bought Siri from the original developer) disabled Siri for everyone who was already using it, in a naked attempt to force their loyal fanbase to upgrade, if I'm not mistaken? It's amazing to me how Apple fanboys can continue to stay so fanatically loyal after every punch in the beanbag from Cupertino.
Dude, it's Apple. They could take the iPhone 4, put it in a different case, call it the iPhone 5, and fanbois would line up to get one.
Heck, they could put an iPhone 3 in a new case, call it an iPhone 5, and probably most Apple fanbois would want one.
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Looking at the Slashdot front page right now, the topics are:
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So out of 34 stories, two are about Microsoft, one is about Google (with two about Android), and two , yes TWO, are about Apple. /. commenters derail other stories and make them about MS, Apple, or Google, whose fault is that? ...and who is trolling?
Now if the
...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.
You'd think so, but I remember seeing an article with statistics showing the older iPhone users being less likely to upgrade than the newer ones.
...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.
Some probably would upgrade. After all, some people have unlimited money for all intents and purposes in this discussion. But mainly I think it is a product differentiator for new customers or the old customers that are upgrading from an older iPhone to one of the newer ones.
I recently upgraded from an iPhone 3G to an iPhone 4. The reason I didn't go with the 4s is that it was more expensive and the faster CPU and Siri didn't really appeal to me.
I don't believe the faster CPU and GPU are a big sell on their own to the general public. Apple needed some VISIBLE new feature to differentiate the 4s. They came up with Siri, which TBH currently appears a little dumb to me.
Great, you can run Siri on an iPod touch. Well done.
Now try convincing the world at large that jailbreaking is not primarily motivated by the running of pirated apps.
Since there's not much of a technical reason the iPhone 4 cannot have Siri, I think a big part of why it's only on the 4s (and not even the iPad 2) is to help Apple understand server load from the service before it goes live for 100 million+ people.
Yes, I've heard Dan Benjamin complain on one of his podcasts that there's some disruption of Siri services when there's a large influx of users, such as when the US east coast wakes up. So this would seem to be at least part of the reasoning.
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This was my thought exactly. Siri is still listed as a product in beta, and all the logic is cloud-based. Sales of the 4S exceeded expectations, and I don't think it's a coincidence that last week several users across the country were reporting frequent problems with Siri connecting to the network. There's really not a lot of work done on the client, so there's no reason that Siri would not be available on any device capable of running iOS5 when it goes GA. If it shows promise, expect it to be open to all devices. If not, expect it to fade into obscurity.