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Pakistan Bans 1600 Words and Phrases For Texting

Hugh Pickens writes "In a move reminiscent of George Carlin's Seven Words You Can Never Say on TV, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority has handed down a ban on about 1,600 terms and phrases it has deemed obscene and told carriers they have seven days to block the words on their networks, or face legal action. 'The filtering is not good for the system and may degrade the quality of network services — plus it would be a great inconvenience to our subscribers if their SMS was not delivered due to the wrong choice of words,' says an official at a one of the telecoms. The list includes such words and phrases as 'idiot,' 'monkey crotch,' 'athlete's foot,' 'damn,' 'deeper,' 'four twenty,' 'fornicate,' 'looser,' and 'go to hell,' among others. There are also various double entendres included in the ban such as 'beat your meat' or 'flogging the dolphin.' Mohammad Younis, a spokesman for the PTA, says the ban is 'the result of numerous meetings and consultations with stakeholders' after consumers complained of receiving offensive text messages. 'Nobody would like this happening to their young boy or girl.'"

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  1. Looser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's going to make giving instructions difficult. I hope no-one's working with an IPL over IM over there.

    1. Re:Looser? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      flog your dolphin

      At 7-11 doesn't that mean the same thing as sell tuna?

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    2. Re:Looser? by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      IPL = Initial Program Loader

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    3. Re:Looser? by mangu · · Score: 2

      OK, I get it now. It becomes looser after an athlete inserts his foot there.

      The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority seems to have a weird taste for porn...

    4. Re:Looser? by Tomato42 · · Score: 2

      Institute for Penalizing Laughter

    5. Re:Looser? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Animal lovers will appreciate the banning of the words "Cockfight," and "Pussy Cat." Rich people will get behind "Deposit," "Penthouse," and "Showtime." Reporters will love "Hostage," "Kill," "Murder," "Suicide," "Sniper," and presumably "Stupid." Construction workers seem to get the best with the banning of "Deeper," "Back Door," "Laid," "Banging," "Dome," "Harder," "Hole," "Joint," "Period," "Slant," "Screw," and "Budweiser." Everyone else will get behind the banning of such horrible words as "Creamy," "Jugs," and "K Mart." And pretty much all feminine hygiene is, by definition, unhygienic.

      Strangely, they banned both root words and modifiers of root words... like calling out ass AND ass clown, ass banger, etc. It's like they don't know how filtering, or words, work. Also, they banned the phrases "XXX" which is, itself, a censor word to represent something else.

    6. Re:Looser? by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because its Pakistan I can't tell if they meant loser or if they were serious...

      As soon as I saw 'looser' on the list, I thought that they can't be all that evil. We do need a concerted effort to eliminate this example of stupidity. It seems rare these days to find anyone spelling "loser" correctly. Ignorant loosers!

      But seriously, this list seems a bit dubious to me. Why would a country so paranoid about having bad things said about the Prophet Mohammed only include Jesus Christ on the list as a blasphemy? Why would a country that was once a part of the British Empire (and as such, still has English as on of its official languages) have one word on the list with the British spelling "arse", and 71 words with the American spelling "ass"? Why would there be no attempt to include the deliberate misspellings, abbreviations and contractions that are typical of texters?

      It could be that they simply sourced a list of words from elsewhere, but it seems strange that they would not tailor it to their own country's requirements.

    7. Re:Looser? by anubi · · Score: 2

      My parent clearly shows why this is a loser.

      People will just code around the blocked words.

      However, this will make for much frustration from people trying to have a significant conversation and inadvertently step on banned words.

      Read the list . (Same as above, I just copied it here to give you another whack at it.)

      Way too many common words used in meaningful conversations are on that list.

      I believe that 98% of the phrases on that list are indeed used for nothing else other than naughty texting. But what's to say that other "naughty words" will quickly be coined and substituted for the censored ones?

      We cannot enforce morality through technology and censorship like this. It will just frustrate everyone.

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    8. Re:Looser? by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Strangely, they banned both root words and modifiers of root words... like calling out ass AND ass clown, ass banger, etc. It's like they don't know how filtering, or words, work.

      Kind of a shame they didn't use regex-based word subsbreastutions, though perhaps they didn't feel enbreastled to make any bumumptions.

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    9. Re:Looser? by milkywayer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Being a Pakistan who knows all the BS the current government has been doing (or not doing) for the past 4 years. This is insane. They failed at everything else, there's daily power loadshedding/blackouts, 2,3 days a week CNG (gas) blackouts, loads of corruption. And then they come out with strange moves like this out of no where to divert people's attention. This was really uncalled for. The only thing that every teenager and college student texts almost once a day is prank/hate messages about the current corrupt president Zardari, I wouldn't be surprised if there was 'Zardari' listed somewhere in those words.

    10. Re:Looser? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Seemingly a random and disassociated list. Obvious purpose make it more palatable as more politically aligned words are added to the list. Silence private communication between individuals associated with the political opposition. After texts comes voice.

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    11. Re:Looser? by Vastad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would a country so paranoid about having bad things said about the Prophet Mohammed only include Jesus Christ on the list as a blasphemy

      Ummm...because if they censored the words "Prophet" and/or "Mohammed", that would be censoring a pillar of the Muslim faith? How would the righteous and moral doublegood citizens of Pakistan discuss the most important person in their lives? Or is this a test....?

      Jesus is a prophet but not THE Prophet in Islam, so that's OK to make sure the infidels don't get to sell that silly concept outside of their strange cult.

      More importantly though, this is actually a good thing. Why? Because we can look to Urdu - the national language of Pakistan - becoming the source of an entirely new and titillating orgy of euphemisms and slang that will defeat this list and that can never adapt effectively to counter it. The authorities have unwittingly introduced chaos and creativity into the very evolution of their national language. In less than a year, I make a gentlemen's bet that there will be their equivalent of the Number 1 Top 40 hit by their equivalent of Justin Bieber or Duffy belting out lyrics about "big tracts of land" and "brown roses with small petals" that will have the older generation pleased at the agricultural bent of the song.....and the young'uns practically creaming themselves in laughter.

  2. Oh that's sure gonna work by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    After all we know how ppl using txt spel pfectly an don abbrev any wrds.

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    1. Re:Oh that's sure gonna work by mysidia · · Score: 2

      After all we know how ppl using txt spel pfectly an don abbrev any wrds.

      I'm sure they anticipated that... that's why the 1600 word/phase list is probably 1600 variants of the phrase "F**** the PTA" or "The Pakistan Telecom authority sucks"

    2. Re:Oh that's sure gonna work by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And as we all know from the early attempts of the MAFIAA to curtail the sharing of music by disallowing the names of certain songs to be part of a file being shared, people will invent creative ways around it. 1600 or 16000 variants, people will find some that will slip through and the info will get shared quickly.

      Censorship doesn't work. People route around it.

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  3. Didn't work in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pakistani users will have 1600 new euphemisms by the end of the week.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_crab_(Internet_slang)

    1. Re:Didn't work in China by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pakistani users will have 1600 new euphemisms by the end of the week.

      How are we going to replace "flogging the dolphin" though?

      Abusing the porpoise?

      Whipping Flipper?

      Chasing the white whale?

      Shaking hands with Shamu?

      Strangling the Baird's Beaked Whale?

      Grinding the narwhal?

      OK, I've done my part. But we still need to come up with another 1594 new euphemisms for masturbation by Friday.

    2. Re:Didn't work in China by tempest69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      discipline flipper

      But perhaps the better euphemisms are the ones that would have normal meanings--

      Shifting into third
      Grabbing Some Lamb
      Avoiding Traffic
      Out Shopping
      Hailing a Cab
      In a Meeting
      Discuss it over lunch
      Spinach

      If your mind just made up a whole bunch of messed up meanings for those euphemisms, then you might need serious help.
      Though enough words as euphemisms, and nobody will be able to reliably text..

    3. Re:Didn't work in China by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      "going to Penn State"

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    4. Re:Didn't work in China by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Occupying Wall Street

    5. Re:Didn't work in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even whitelisting doesn't work.

      http://habitatchronicles.com/2007/03/the-untold-history-of-toontowns-speedchat-or-blockchattm-from-disney-finally-arrives/

      "We spent several weeks building a UI that used pop-downs to construct sentences, and only had completely harmless words – the standard parts of grammar and safe nouns like cars, animals, and objects in the world."
      "We thought it was the perfect solution, until we set our first 14-year old boy down in front of it. Within minutes he’d created the following sentence:
      I want to stick my long-necked Giraffe up your fluffy white bunny.

    6. Re:Didn't work in China by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 4, Funny

      http://www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Dictionary/masturbation-male
      My favorite: Warming up the alter boys dinner.

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    7. Re:Didn't work in China by martin-boundary · · Score: 3, Funny
      Beat you're meat?

      As a grammar Nazi, I request that somebody kill me now, please!

    8. Re:Didn't work in China by petman · · Score: 2

      Or you could just use the proper spelling for "masturbate", which, ironically, is not in the list.

  4. Hey now everybody chill by wjcofkc · · Score: 5, Funny

    After all: It's for the children! Right?

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    1. Re:Hey now everybody chill by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's for the children! Right?

      Not in a country where it's legal for a 60 year-old man to marry a 4 year-old girl, mate with her, then throw acid in her face and stone her to death for not wearing a burqa.

    2. Re:Hey now everybody chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      All of those things happen in Pakistan, but each one is illegal except for one*.

      - Age of consent for marriage is 18 for males & 16 for females under Muslim Family Laws Ordinance 1961. Underage marriages are illegal.
      - Throwing acid in a person's face was explicitly criminalized in May of this year and can get you life in prison. Under older Muslim law, the victim had the right to return the favor and have acid dribbled in the eyes of her attacker.
      - Burqa wearing is optional and largely AFAIK common mostly in areas that border Afghanistan. Stoning a woman to death for not wearing a burqa is murder.

      * The one legal bit you implied was forcing your wife to have sex. Pakistani law requires that the victim not be legally married to the perpetrator in its definition of rape, just like in many US states up until North Carolina was the last to close the loophole in 1993. Many states still don't protect a woman if she's incapacitated and unable to refuse her husband.

    3. Re:Hey now everybody chill by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's nice. But the AOC isn't enforced outside of major cities. Pakistan is quickly sliding into a imperialist islamist shithole. Meaning that sharia is the law of the day, and a wife or women who isn't subservient is disrespectful of their man, and in turn god. And where the whole sharia law thing has kicked into full gear, there's no such thing as rape. Unless you can find 8 male witnesses. And of course you can't rape your wife, she has to submit.

      The Burqa is also becoming a 'norm' throughout the country as the government tries to appease the hardliners. Keep up with the times AC.

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  5. The only appropriate response by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

    to Pakistan government on this one is

    g o t o h e l l a n d f o r n i c a t e you l o o s e r i d i o t s

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    1. Re:The only appropriate response by renedox · · Score: 3, Funny

      a t h l e t e ' s f o o t

    2. Re:The only appropriate response by lennier · · Score: 5, Funny

      g o t o h e l l

      You had to say it, didn't you? You had to say that one little four-letter word. You couldn't just say "call hell" or "eval hell" or "do hell while true" or even "gosub hell". No, you had to put yourself right there beyond the bounds of civilised discourse and say The Word.

      Consider yourself harmful indeed, sir!

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    3. Re:The only appropriate response by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

      g o t o h e l l

      You had to say it, didn't you? You had to say that one little four-letter word. You couldn't just say "call hell" or "eval hell" or "do hell while true" or even "gosub hell".

      The implication is that there is no return. Gosub hell indeed.

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  6. Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But what do they really think this is going to accomplish, other than invention of a new vocabulary?

  7. Controlling communication helps controlling people by Hentes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?"

  8. Re:four twenty! by indeterminator · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's how the French say 80.

  9. OK wow by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the list: "harder". I can understand a**f****r, but "harder"? WTF? (also, they have IDIOT and ID1OT and IDOIT... but not 1D10T. Noobs.)

    Also on the list: lotion and period. Scientists with dry hands are gonna have some difficulties.

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    1. Re:OK wow by Haedrian · · Score: 4, Funny

      It puts the ***** on its skin

    2. Re:OK wow by Whiternoise · · Score: 2

      The list is clearly stolen from elsewhere. A quick Google of some of the more obscure phrases, such as "Purina Princess" yields this:

      http://outsports.com/nfl/2005/0301nflshopnaughtywords.htm

      Surely that's not a coincidence?

  10. Re:four twenty! by Mr+Z · · Score: 2

    And Abe Lincoln.

    Something tells me, though, it refers to reefer in this context.

  11. What could possibly go wrong? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has something that wasn't a terrible plan ever been implemented by people who use the phrase "consultations with stakeholders" with a straight face?

  12. And this is one way language evolves by oakgrove · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is fucking stupid for one simple reason.

    Kids and adults alike will just find new ways to say "beat your meat" "go to hell" or whatever in 3..2..1

    The censors cannot possibly hope to keep up.

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    1. Re:And this is one way language evolves by oakgrove · · Score: 2

      Heh...much more interested in rocking the little man in the boat!

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    2. Re:And this is one way language evolves by camperdave · · Score: 2

      The censors cannot possibly hope to keep up.

      Don't think of it as not being able to keep up. Think of it as job security.

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  13. Banned: Juggalo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some of the banned words are amusing for various reasons. Some have fairly obvious explicit meanings, others do not. Some examples of messages that will be banned after this goes into effect:

    "I am putting a new roof on my house and the stringer length is 18 feet."
    "Did you see the new wuutang clan movie on netflix?"
    "When using distance measuring equipment in aircraft, it measures the slant length between the VOR and the aircraft."
    "When approaching to land, you should retard the throttle abeam the intended landing point."
    "I want to go land at Bremerton Airport, IACO identifier PWT."
    "When running long distances, you should be careful of joint pain in your knees."
    "Calculus is often considered to be a harder class than algebra."
    "Juggalo fatso got jesus" * (All words in this one are banned)

    Wow. This is good stuff. I often wonder what is going on in these people's heads when they come up with lists like this. They are not sane as we know it.

  14. And the irony is... by wjcofkc · · Score: 5, Funny

    In my original attempt to post I wrote "It's for the children!." in all caps in order to communicate the absurdity to those on Slashdot who don't always think things through and might actually take me seriously. I received the following error: Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

    Come on Slashdot, isn't that what we have moderation for?

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  15. That would block all my messages! by syousef · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just last month I sent a text to my boss that read...

    "Hey, monkey crotch! How's your atheletes foot? Any looser? Damn! Quit beating your meat and call idiot!"

    And to my wife...

    "Tired of flogging the dolphin? Let's fornicate!"

    And she replied

    "Go to hell!"

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  16. Is this technically feasible? by B1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was thinking about this the other day as a technical challenge.

    Assuming their SMS system handles tens of thousands of texts per second, each of which needs to be tested against this user-definable dictionary of 1600 words, is it even possible for the platform to keep up? Are there sophisticated search / pattern matching algorithms for testing a message against 1600 substrings? I can think of a very naive way to do this, but I'm sure it would not scale.

    How would one implement this kind of high-speed pattern matching??

    1. Re:Is this technically feasible? by Mr+Z · · Score: 5, Informative

      What, you think they're going to do this on a Commodore 64?

      I looked it up, and folks in the US send 80 billion SMSes per month. That works out to about 30k SMSes/sec on average across the entire United States. Now, I realize that certain times of day are more likely to have SMSes than others, so let's say, to a first order, the peak rate of SMSes is 100k/sec. Now divide that among all the cell towers, understanding that some will be busier than others.

      Let's say a given cell tower has to process 100 SMSes a second, each at the full 160 character limit. That's 16kB/s. Let's say each word take 1000 cycles to test for, which should be on the high side since it assumes you can't use, say, a trie to take advantage of common word roots, or use pattern matching accelerators (which are quite common in this space). 16kB/s * 1000 * 1600 = 25.6Gcyc/sec. That sounds like a lot, but it isn't.

      A single board in one of these cellular base stations has literally dozens of processor chips, most with multiple cores, running in the GHz range. And that's just one board. My employer sells a chip in this space which crunches away 10Gcyc/sec across all of its 8 processors, and our customers put dozens of these on each board.

      On GSM networks, SMSes are control channel messages. They go via a low bandwidth side channel that is nowhere near as compute-intensive as the main voice channel. If you're provisioned to handle a certain number of phone calls, you're more than adequately provisioned to handle SMSes and the corresponding filtering, as long as you do the filtering at the base station.

    2. Re:Is this technically feasible? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      hardware accel.

      its how routers do DPI these days.

      any real firewall worth anything has hardware support for string finding, substrings, etc.

      since routing is now 'boring' and its all worked out; the new hotness is to have 'apps' run on high speed router platforms and 'do things' at realtime speeds with your data.

      now, aren't you sorry you asked?

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    3. Re:Is this technically feasible? by Kalriath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cell tower? Why wouldn't you run all this on the considerably more powerful SMSCs?

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  17. At least they have a public list. by I'm+Not+There+(1956) · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here in Iran messages are censored but nobody knows for which words. It's not even consistent: when there's going to be a protest event or news the filtering increases. Normally it filters less words. People guess these words. The worst happens for advertisers and advertising companies that send bulk SMS and later find out that nothing has delivered!

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  18. all i can picture by decora · · Score: 5, Funny

    is a bunch of middle aged bureaucratic dudes sitting around a table saying "What do you think about "Monkey dick".. should we ban that?"

  19. WooHoo ... by ProfM · · Score: 2

    I learned a few new swear words today. On a side note, why are 1072, 1073, and 1074 redacted? Are they too obscene?

  20. More list forensics by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Informative

    - "Beastiality" is banned, but not "bestiality". Coitus with animals is acceptable as long as you can spell it properly.

    - A lot of superstrings seem to be banned; I guess they expect the operators to censor the longest possible match.

    - I guess no one's allowed to do research on HSV in Pakistan, since "herpes" is banned.

    - How long before someone turns the blocking of "lesbian" and "gay" into a human rights issue? Especially "gay pride"?

    - Some of these bans are actually dangerous to public safety: "sniper", "hostage", and "stroke" are all being banned.

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    1. Re:More list forensics by fnj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Human rights? In a muslim theocracy? BWAHAHAHAHA!

    2. Re:More list forensics by devent · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why you assume that this theocracy is special only because it's a Muslim theocracy? We all know what was happening in a Christianity theocracy, and it's not better.

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  21. ask the people in prison in China by decora · · Score: 2

    who are there because they tweeted some small phrase or something.

  22. Thank goodness! by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

    Bad words are bad because I said so. I don't like them, and so they should be banned.

    Think of all the children that are being saved!

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  23. US needs a set of BALLS and Liberate Pakistan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The US needs to get a set of BALLS and Liberate Pakistan.

    This has gone to far, we need to bring freedom back to the world. Only way to do this is for the US to get a set of BALLS and Liberate countries like Pakistan and Canada.

  24. Re:Woefully ineffective by Haedrian · · Score: 3, Informative

    228. Creamy.

    No it won't. On the other hand neither will positive comments about icecream.

  25. I applaud Pakistan by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... for doing everything they can to ensure that the range of Pakistani euphemisms and double-entendres expands to ever newer and more creative territory. Let a thousand flowers bloom!

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    1. Re:I applaud Pakistan by halivar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let a thousand flowers bloom!

      That's just sick, you bastard.

  26. Re:Easy to get around and disrupted by mysidia · · Score: 4, Informative

    /* badpatterns[1599] = '7H3PT45UX' */
    for(p=text,p2=buffer;*p;p++) { if (!isspace(*p)) *p2++ = LEETMAP(*p); }
    for(i=0;i<1600;i++) {
    result = pcre_exec(badpatterns[i].regex, 0, buffer, strlen(buffer), 0, 0, optvec, sizeof(optvec)/sizeof(optvec[0]));
    if ( result >= 0) {
    national_database[ subscriber_id ].strikes ++;
    (* badpatterns[i].punitive_action) ( national_database[ subscriber_id ].strikes, &gps_position[ subscriber_id], buffer, DISPATCH_POLICE);
    return MSG_BLOCKED;
    }
    }

  27. Curiouser and curiouser by banda · · Score: 2

    I too would like to pretend that the XFL never existed, but ban people from texting "HEHATEME"? Is Rod Smart THAT controversial in Pakistan?

  28. Re:Jesus Christ by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What you do is to give people a lot of freedom somewhere while you take it away in other places.

    And when people aren't good behaving citizens then you pepper spray them.

    Freedom is what you think you have, reality is that you may be free to express what you think in the western world but as soon as you act upon your opinions to get others to listen then you are a danger to the order.

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  29. Language evolution by Roogna · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course the most pointless thing with language bans and censorship of this kind is that it's exactly why we -have- so many double entendres and such. Every time a culture, religion, politician, parent, teacher, whomever, tells someone that saying something is offensive, the best they usually manage is the creation of some other way of stating the same thing. Even if that involves making up new words. Beyond that, the very children who everyone is usually trying to protect with language bans like this, are the absolute masters at creating new words to circumvent such things.

  30. Only in English ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if they only will ban this list and words in English, how about the same words (meanings I mean) in their language ? are they banned too ?

  31. Re:Banned: Juggalo by smellotron · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your circle of friends has much higher standards for texting content than mine.

  32. Agreed, stop the hate, because this is a good move by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After all, don't people realize the horrible things that can happen when someone gets offended?

    I found this documentary about the terrible consequences of being offended. It recounts the gruesome details of people who have been offended, went to sleep, and woke up the next morning with leprosy.

    It's good that Pakistan is stopping these atrocities before they get out of hand.

  33. It's a well studied problem by mdmkolbe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With a maximum character length of 140 characters, 1600 strings to match, and assuming 8 character long strings, it would take 140*8*1600=1,792,000 character matches per message if you do it naively. That is only a millisecond on modern GHz processors, but when processing large numbers of messages using embedded processors, that is probably a few more cycles than you want to spend on each message. You can do better by using Knuth-Morris-Pratt or Boyer-Moore. Since we can pre-process the strings to be matched, this means it takes only 140*1600*k=224,000*k (for some k determined by the algorithm). This is better, but not by much.

    Notice that the dominant factor is the 1600 strings to be matched. If you really care about performance, then you want to get rid of that factor. Simplest way is to build a finite-state automaton. If it is encoded as an NFA, the performance won't be much better than before, but if you encode it as a DFA, then each message can be processed in only 140 table lookups. The downside of this is the size of the lookup tables. In the worse case, expect them to take terabytes of space depending on the particular 1600 strings being matched.

    There are algorithms like Rabin-Karp and Aho-Corasick that might take less space while still taking only ~140 character operations. The practical answer, is to try DFA, RK, and AC to see which, if any, don't require too much preprocessing space, and then use one of those. The space requirements will depend on the particular text involved, but there are good odds that the tables for DFA will be small, and even better odds that the tables for RK and AC will be small.

    Searching and sorting are two of the most well studied algorithmic problems in computer science. If you ever find yourself wondering how to do them efficiently, there is a good chance that very smart people have already figured out how to do it.

  34. Re:ROFL by haruchai · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have a very inflated view of themselves, which is reflected in their country's name - Pakistan means Land of the Pure.

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  35. Re:ROFL by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

    Imagine Kansas with nuclear weapons,

    truly, a point of know return.

    (been waiting *decades* to use that joke. NOW, what do I do?)

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  36. Good and bad by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    After reading the list, there are some good and bad parts:

    Good: #575 - Juggalo. ICP fans should be banned, everywhere.

    Bad: #657 - Master Blaster. Now how will Pakistanis know who rules Bartertown?

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  37. Re:ROFL by MurukeshM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the countries split, most things were split - wealth, population, what have you. But the amount of stupidity was duplicated.

  38. Re:ROFL by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 3, Informative

    In India, showing your bare feet to someone is extremely offensive. There are similar traditions in Pakistan so it probably is part of an insult of some sort. Just a guess though.

  39. Grimly Amusing by Hasai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems no matter where you go and no matter how ludicrous the subject, "IT'S FOR THE CHIIIILLLLDREN!" always wins. :\

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  40. Troublesome words by poena.dare · · Score: 2

    I was going to put every word on the list in a poem, but words #1072 to 1074 are impossible to rhyme.

  41. Re:ROFL by trojjan · · Score: 2

    I've been India all my life and never heard that. In fact in most places of worship(temples etc.) you are required to remove your foot wear and go bare feet, thus exposing them.

  42. If only we used English Curses in the First place! by ryzvonusef · · Score: 3, Informative

    The weird thing is, we don't text in English! We "txt" a bizarre 1337 Roman Urdu, with lavish sprinkling of punjabi curse words.

    Awesome language, that Punjabi, it has both, some of the very best poetry *and* curses.

    So yeah, our dear president, we will still continue to crude messages about you, good luck stopping us. (I could swear one in ten messages is something disparaging about the president, given my inbox)

    This is, of course, if the list *is* real. First of all, it's unlikely PTA would have revealed it, and secondly, I don't think they would dare censor something like Jesus Christ. All the churches would be in uproar, and the Supreme court would rip them a new one.

    (*BTW*, just to give an idea, Pakistan has one the highest rates for text messaging in the world. We have six companies offering extremely competitive sms packages, and we don't have incoming charges bullshit that you have there, so good luck filtering those tens of millions of messages sent every day.)

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