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Picture Blocking Beer Cooler Keeps Your Face Out of Embarrassing Photos

cylonlover writes "It may sound like something dreamed up by a cheesy men's magazine as a joke, but apparently this is a real thing that actually exists. Ostensibly, the Norte Photoblocker is a functional beer cooler surrounded by four sensors that can detect the flashes from cameras or cell phones. If a flash goes off in the direction of the Photoblocker, it fires its own flash to flood the resulting photos with bright white and obscure anyone nearby. Now you can go about your usual business of cheating on your spouse, being an idiot around your boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers without worrying that some wildly irresponsible person will tag you in a photo and posts it online."

200 comments

  1. Absolutely flawless by igreaterthanu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because there is no way to take a photo without a flash.

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    1. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

    2. Re:Absolutely flawless by icebike · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not always.
      Some modern cell phones have fantastic low light capability simply because they know that LED Camera flashes are so weak.

      But you can counter the good low light cameras with an LED hat: http://hacknmod.com/hack/blind-cameras-with-an-infrared-led-hat/

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    3. Re:Absolutely flawless by camperdave · · Score: 0

      Usually, if you're at a bar or a house party, there's no need for a cooler. Coolers are for outdoor parties, and in such situations, are frequently set on the ground. A flash from a ground based source is not going to affect a photo too much, unless you're trying to take a picture of someone passed out on the grass.

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    4. Re:Absolutely flawless by rev0lt · · Score: 2

      I've done concert photography with an f/3.5 lens and 1600 ISO without much issue. Many modern compact cameras also shoot in the infrared range, so you can actually see people without any visible light. Sony even advertised this feature in some models.

    5. Re:Absolutely flawless by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess video cameras don't exist either.

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    6. Re:Absolutely flawless by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      And it's not obvious how would it work with fill lighting (where you use the flash as a secundary scene light source), or multiple hi-speed sequence shots with a professional speedlite.

    7. Re:Absolutely flawless by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      are the videos useless too? like the low-light security cameras all over the bars that low paid security workers sell to the press?

    8. Re:Absolutely flawless by Hentes · · Score: 1

      In a dark bar, there isn't.

    9. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Also, you can actually detect the IR that most autofocus systems use and then flood the light space.

      This tech has been around a while

      example product for celebrities

    10. Re:Absolutely flawless by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      I think video cameras would work fine. The summary states that the cooler "flash" only fires when it senses a camera flash. Those video cameras don't use a flash so I don't think they would set off the cooler. The article might say something entirely different, but I didn't read it. This is /. after all.

    11. Re:Absolutely flawless by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      I hate flash photography. Not as much for the blinding flash, but it flattens an image. The people nearby are brightly lit (sometimes too bright), the background is black or near so. The whole atmosphere is gone. Most parties (as on the videos shown in TFA) use coloured lights and so: that is all gone as soon as you flash. Photos taken without flash (albeit much harder to do without having them blurred) usually look so much better.

      That said: I'd love to see actual real-life results of this beer cooler in action. Not the shots from the videos (which are part of advertising so likely exaggerate), but just some snapshots that are affected by this cooler. I'm interested to see how well it works (or not).

    12. Re:Absolutely flawless by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

      In the video, they showed that the cooler could only contain 1 drink at a time. It is a personal beverage cooler, not a big thing that contains lots of beer.

    13. Re:Absolutely flawless by mysidia · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking.... put a polarizing filter on the camera, and a cover/filter on its flash. Use a flash of a specific wavelength and filter everything else out from reaching your camera.

    14. Re:Absolutely flawless by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Your money was well-spent, sonny. She's been cheating on you."

      "I suspected as much, that's why I hired a private dick. But it's proof I need."

      "You're not gonna like it..."

      "I can take it. I have to know, for sure."

      PD slides an envelope across the table. Man opens it. He stares, aghast.

      "Oh my god."

      "I'm sorry, sonny. Been workin' this line of business twenty years, but I never get used to the look of guy's faces. Some guys, they don't really want to know. They want to hold on to a forlorn hope that maybe, just maybe, the dame really was visiting her sister, see?"

      "YOU BASTARD! HOW COULD YOU?"

      "Look, I'm not proud of what I do. But you hired me, sonny. If you didn't want to know, y-"

      "You used a flash! Where's the artistry? It's so unnatural. Her form intermingled with my soon-to-be-dead friend's.. look at their bodies. There's no depth. The lighting, good god man, the lighting! I'm supposed to believe this was a romantic interlude? They're like lifeless puppets!"

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    15. Re:Absolutely flawless by soulsteal · · Score: 1

      A decent photographer would know to drag the shutter so you get a good blend of ambient light with enough fill flash to freeze the action and properly expose the subject.

    16. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I wasn't too lazy to log in, I would mod the shit out of this.

    17. Re:Absolutely flawless by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Interesting link, thanks.

      Are there other ways to prevent photos from being taken, or at least make it harder? How about clothes that have interference lines or strong color contrasts, would that at least mess with picture quality?

    18. Re:Absolutely flawless by JonySuede · · Score: 3, Funny

      yay, black and white pics !

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    19. Re:Absolutely flawless by artor3 · · Score: 1

      That's what I thought this was going to be... a cooler with IR floodlights to basically disable any digital photography in the area. Seems like that would be way more effective.

    20. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, even more interesting is what is the refresh rate? Will it trigger on the pre-flash and still recycle fast enough to fire to block the actual flash. Or, I wonder how will it works as a fill flash.

    21. Re:Absolutely flawless by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      According to the mythbusters glass is quite reflective to most IR frequencies. The hat may be foiled by DSLR's and phones with Carl Zeis lenses. Only one glass lens should do.
      Season 2006 episode 16 "Crimes and Myth-Demeanors 2" according to Wikipedia (they were trying to beat an infra-red motion detector. They tested different methods by applying it to Tory and putting him in fron of an IR camera. Someone with a pane of glass walked in between them and they could see a perfect reflection of the cameraman on the IR camera. Very cool)

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    22. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. The IR-filters in most modern cameras are good enough to be pretty much IR-impervious (This is why IR-modding DSLR is a pretty big thing these days if you actually want to DO IR-photography). Camera phones / web cams usually have piss poor IR-filters tho

    23. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people who snap photos do not know how their photo-taking device works. If it's got auto-flash on by default, they leave it on. Do you know how many times I've seen people snap photos of glass display cases in museums, or a distant skyscraper, or the night sky with flash on? This could easily stop 90%+ of photo takers.

    24. Re:Absolutely flawless by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      In a relatively enclosed space (a regular room in a house, for example) you can significantly reduce this washing-out effect by taping a little piece of card in front of your flash. Put it at a 45 degree angle to horizontal, touching the flash at the base (this is easier if you leave two corners to fold over, making a neat surround for the flash). This will redirect the vast majority of the light upwards providing indirect lighting (great for killing shadows), and still let plenty of light through the card to directly light the front of the object. It also completely eliminates red-eye for portraits.

      I'm not even an amateur photographer; I just thought it would be a good idea, and it worked. I later found out this is called a "flash reflector". Google it for more info.

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    25. Re:Absolutely flawless by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      Or a laser beacon. More commonly used as safety kit on the sea, it continuously beams a near IR laser 360 degrees around the vertical, and about 30 degrees above and below the horizontal. Stick one on a hat and you should be fairly invisible.

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    26. Re:Absolutely flawless by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Bullshit, I take pictures in Felbers with my phone all the time. It has no flash, and the pictures come out as good as any other indoor picture.

    27. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too lazy to log in, but you have mod points. Methinks that's not your mouth your speaking with.

    28. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more like blind yourself and everyone you look at (permanently) with an infrared hat, AMIRITE

    29. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why you have smoked glass doors on your TV entertainment cabinet. The smoked glass lets your IR remote through.

    30. Re:Absolutely flawless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real fallacy of this is recycle time.. I am a professional photographer and strobist and have spent a lot of time and money on different triggering mechanisms. The most easy to install and use is an optical trigger, and I actually joked about mounting one to a hat to prevent my photo from being taken.. These work great when all the equipment is set on manual mode, or even thyristor technology... nowadays and for quite a long time) camera flash is metered using TTL (through the lense metering) the camera fires a preflash, measures the light, and fires the flash when the shutter opens.. this happens so quick, the optical trigger fires the flash full power and is still recharging when the shutter opens and the main flash fires.... also, newer entry level SLR's with a built-in pop up flash use a stroboscopic flash (to similate a modelling light) so the camera can autofocus.. My canon rebel T3i fires a strobe for about 10 seconds during autofocus, then a preflash, then a flash for the shutter... if a beer cooler can fire that many flashes, i'll be the first to buy one as a primary light for my studio... there would be no room for beer, just a huge ass battery..

    31. Re:Absolutely flawless by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention the cooler doesn't actually exist...

    32. Re:Absolutely flawless by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      So you buy one of those baseball caps with the LED lights in the brim, swap out the white LED's for IR LED's, and wear it at partys. Your face will be obscured by the bright light in photos, and you will not be popping and flashing like a thunderstorm all night.

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  2. About time someone invented by ackthpt · · Score: 0

    the beer cooler you can wear as a helmet.

    Oh, this isn't a helmet, but you could always wear it as one! w00t!

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    1. Re:About time someone invented by Dayze!Confused · · Score: 1

      Can't wait to put this on my car and scooter. Hopefully it takes care of those speed/red light cameras.

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    2. Re:About time someone invented by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting
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    3. Re:About time someone invented by artor3 · · Score: 2

      This is a pretty risky idea, FYI. If the cops can get even a partial plate number, combined with the make and model of your car, they can most likely track you down, and will have additional incentive to do so when they see the bright IR flash in the photo. You're better off just not speeding/running red lights. If you go a bit over the limit, or accidentally run a light by mistiming the yellow, then you probably won't get a ticket. The systems are not fully automated - they get screened and marginal cases are thrown out because they don't want to bother with a case that might actually go to court (can't make money on those!). Having plate obscuring systems is just going to draw unwanted attention to your car.

    4. Re:About time someone invented by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      Hardly. Not unless they are investigating a murder and this is the only way of tracing you (and it's a TV show.) The drones who handle traffic fines sure as hell aren't going to track down each and every partial plate. If they don't get a readable plate, they dump it. The resources required to track you down, get a suitable warrant to search your vehicle on private property, get enough guys to serve it (on the assumption that you'll be a drunk/belligerent idiot) would not be worth the result. Seriously, think how few outstanding warrants for unpaid traffic fines are actually executed like that?

      The only risk, IMO, is if the device is visible outside the vehicle (like the example in the video) and you get pulled over on another matter and the cop is looking to "pad the bill".

      (Under the old "broken window" philosophy they should track down every partial or obscured plate, on the chance that the car was used in other crimes, but these days they seem more driven by revenue maximisation.)

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    5. Re:About time someone invented by Shompol · · Score: 1

      The systems are not fully automated - they get screened and marginal cases are thrown out

      Red light cameras are fully automated, and earns most of the money on "missed yellow by 200 milliseconds". It takes a picture of your car entering intersection on red, and the case is no longer marginal. This is where the beer cooler would come handy to defeat this money-collection system, at least after dark.

    6. Re:About time someone invented by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Or you could just stop on yellow like you're supposed to.

      Stop breaking the law.

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    7. Re:About time someone invented by Shompol · · Score: 1

      I am allowed to enter the intersection on yellow. I have not heard of a jurisdiction where this is not so. By making yellow extra-short my city rakes in some extra $

    8. Re:About time someone invented by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Only if it is impossible for you to stop. You can't treat the yellow as an extended green, it's a grace period so you don't run the red because the light changed 1/10th of a second before you entered the intersection.

      I am very well aware that some cities have put in extra-short yellow times, that needs to stop. But so does the perception that you have to "catch the yellow" by speeding up. If you're speeding up to catch it, you should have stopped instead.

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  3. Fast Lens Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My f/1.8 at ISO 6400 just said "U MAD BRO?"

  4. Product Synergy by Kuipo · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will go great with my strobe light at my next party!

  5. I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by bryan1945 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're an adult, no problem going to a bar/party. Just don't strip to your undies and and poor beer on yourself. If you're married, don't go out to public places with the prostitute/mistress. Don't throw wild keggers in your backyard. If you're going to go through this much trouble not to have your picture taken, you may want to 1) rethink your priorities, or 2) do such things in relative privacy with people you trust.

    If you're still young, go be an idiot. That's what college is for, generally.

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    1. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor beer, indeed.

    2. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but let's be realistic. There's a lot of things we might do in jest among friends that could be detrimental in the future. People snapping pictures surreptitiously at parties or "spy shots" should be kicked out, like what happened to Phelps.

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    3. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other partygoers can see things, and describe them later. Why should they be permitted to do so biologically, but not electronically?

    4. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      If you're still young, go be an idiot. That's what college is for, generally.

      Just don't throw up pictures of yourself being an idiot on Facebook. Or let you friends do so. In fact, don't have Facebook at all, or have friends whom you (moderately) trust. Hell, I just graduated and I wouldn't generally go drinking without trustworthy friends (certainly not to bars), if only to make sure I got home safely if I had one too many (which may or may not have happened to me, my memory is a little... fuzzy, at times). College student or not, those kinds of pictures can and quite likely will bite you in the ass later in life. Unless you intend to do that sort of thing your whole life, in which case... go right ahead.

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    5. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Mousit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't have to be an idiot for a picture to be a problem. After all, there was the somewhat recent case (even featured here on Slashdot, sorry I'm too lazy to dig up links) of the kindergarten teacher that was fired over a photo of her at a party, drinking from a cup that allegedly contained alcohol (gasp). She was of course legal, and was doing nothing unusual, merely smiling and drinking, but it was deemed "inappropriate" for her position, whatever the fuck that means.

      There's a plethora of such cases. Or the numerous stories (again, featured on Slashdot too) of companies that troll social networking sites (or employ third parties to do so for them) to look up info on applicants and potential hires. Simply being at a party, drinking, is often frowned upon as the companies have outright stated when interviewed on this subject. There's also the issue of not everyone in your social circle may respect your wishes about no pictures (yes, I think that makes them jackasses), and this is especially true of parties where attendants may not all be your personal friends. Friends of friends, acquaintances, the types that are even more especially likely to not know and/or respect your picture wishes.

      All of this, of course, are symptoms of a much larger blight on our society, but nonetheless, the point still stands: a picture of you drinking at a party does not necessarily have to show you being an idiot, to affect your life. Especially your professional life.

    6. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gah.. so many rules, how is one supposed to remember them all! :P

    7. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that's the reason why you can join the army at 18 but can't drink until you're 21.

    8. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

    9. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by geekoid · · Score: 1

      What about people who are just done want their photo taken?

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    10. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I realized that a bit later. But it would be much better with a fine microbrew! Shows good taste.

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    11. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by bryan1945 · · Score: 2

      ^^
      True those. I didn't feel like breaking down everything; I'd be here all night.

      The professional angle is one that is at least, interesting. I've had top level bosses that would get blotted at every company party, and it was officially called "being a character." At the time I was entry level, so I just drank soda, just in case. Some others didn't, and the following week rumors of the boss(es) being displeased were circulating. For things like "Bob had 3(!!!) beers."

      And that was for people at the same party. With a picture, you can say whatever you want. As far as I know I have 3 pictures on the internet- one of me with the Lego sea dragon at Disney, one a Christmas family pic, and one with my goddaughter and her godmother. Maybe I'm a dungeon and dragons fanatic!

      In conclusion to this ramble, yep, just an innocent pic can bury you if the wrong person sees it. Used to be "if it's not illegal nor hurting anyone, it's cool." Now- "You WILL conform to what I believe is right." Yes, a blight and sad.

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    12. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're married, don't go out to public places with the prostitute/mistress.

      You're talking about responsibility, and you say the stupid part is going outside with the prostitute/mistress.

      I LOL'd.. Thanks for that.

    13. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Menkhaf · · Score: 1

      I say we attack this problem from another angle. Instead of using a "flash blocking beer coolor", put your pictures online. Same goes for opinions, sexual preferences, and any other personal detail you can think of. With enough people joining in, we'll change the standard and make it publicly acceptable to act yourself (or be an ass).

      I'll start: I'm drunk on the remains of a Cuban Havana Club. Mmmmmm.

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    14. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

      No it isn't.

    15. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

      No it isn't.

      Is it harder to tell a lie than fake a photograph?
      OR people, don't know it's harder to lie than fake a photograph?

    16. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      You don't have to be an idiot for a picture to be a problem. After all, there was the somewhat recent case (even featured here on Slashdot, sorry I'm too lazy to dig up links) of the kindergarten teacher that was fired over a photo of her at a party, drinking from a cup that allegedly contained alcohol (gasp). She was of course legal, and was doing nothing unusual, merely smiling and drinking, but it was deemed "inappropriate" for her position, whatever the fuck that means.

      Sounds more like an employer finding an excuse to get rid of a person they considered either not good at her job, or with whom they simply could not get along personally.

    17. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      I think we're eventually going to have to come to terms with the fact that we've done stupid things in our lifetime. If you don't hire anyone who has a stupid picture of themselves on facebook, then the employee pool is going to be too small for you.

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    18. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      You laugh, but I attended an elementary school that was run by a church. Being photographed with alcohol (or something that might be alcohol) in your hands would actually have constituted grounds for firing a teacher.

    19. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      As a child my parents would take me to church often. Part of the mass was always the braking and sharing of bread and wine. That's alcoholic of course. And when there was some meeting in the evening it would also be quite common to have wine and beer around. Oh well, different church, different culture as well probably.

    20. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Well, it wasn't a Catholic church. It was the sort of place where consumption of alcohol - at all, ever, in any quantity - was frowned upon. My parents didn't subscribe to the their morality, but it provided an excellent primary education at a very low cost, and it was close - starting in third grade, I rode my bike to and from school unless the weather was bad.

    21. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      . Simply being at a party, drinking, is often frowned upon as the companies have outright stated when interviewed on this subject.

      Personally I'm glad that these companies do this filtering, because it saves me the potential trouble of going to work for them, finding out they've got a stick up their corporate asses, and then having to look for another job and quit. However I understand other people might be in more need of a job, so I fully support finding anyone who hires and fires based on such things and photographing them in compromising positions.

    22. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      You gotta get into the mindset of those fundamentalists. You see, if you read the bible "literally", it becomes abundantly clear that "wine" means "grape juice". Or something. Ah, well - as long as they didn't inject their bullcrap into the teaching, let em be.

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    23. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

      Eactly, it's like when people's naked pictures leak onto the internet and there's an outcry about somone's career being ruined. I truly don't get that because last time I checked everyone had nipples and buttocks, were we supposed to believe that "famous people" didn't?

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    24. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      It was a private school, so they were well within their rights to inject whatever they chose into the curriculum. And they did. We used A Beka books, which have students learn to diagram sentences with such examples as "God does wonderful things for us every day". In their favor, though, they did actually teach diagramming and other parts of grammar, which most of the local public schools couldn't be bothered to do.

    25. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Well, it wasn't a Catholic church. It was the sort of place where consumption of alcohol - at all, ever, in any quantity - was frowned upon.

      You're Muslim? Mormon? What kind of "Christian" church frowns upon an activity Jesus himself engaged in? Hell, one of his miracles was turning water into wine! The bread and wine isn't a Catholic thing, and in fact the Baptist church I used to attend had communion, as does a Methodist church I recently visited one Sunday, as does the nondenominational church I attend now.

      I mention the Mormon cult because my ex-wife converted to Mormonism, and according to my daughter they frown on just about everything, including drink. And alcohol is strictly forbidden for Muslims. But a Christain church? WTF?

    26. Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      It is a member of the Presbyterian Church in American located in the deep South. Communion, of course, exists, but is given with grape juice rather than actual wine in nearly all Protestant denominations in the South (the Episcopal and Lutheran churches use wine). Children are taught that the "wine" of the Bible was much closer to grape juice than what might be called wine today (which is not completely insane - many Romans, for example, thought that drinking unwatered wine was the mark of a lush).

      And, of course, it's frowned upon, not forbidden. It's a cultural norm much more than a religious prohibition. I could count on one hand the number of times I've ever had alcohol at lunch while here, and I'm pushing 40 and have no objection to alcohol consumption. Drinks and/or wine with a nice dinner, sure (though it's not a given). Some people are just more strict about it than others.

  6. Just don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's best to just be the type of person who doesn't show up in photographs.

  7. bite me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A black hole in front of my face would be more effective i guess...but its a start.

  8. WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I GOT MARRIED??!! by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

    Not of me of course, I was merely an innocent bystander, too afraid of my wifes wrath.

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  9. There are other ways! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Three much simpler and cheaper solutions:

    1. Don't party.
    2 Party, but wear a ski mask.
    3. Kill the asshole taking pictures.

    YMMV

  10. otherwise known as a slave-strobe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should really be powered by 8 D-cells.

    1. Re:otherwise known as a slave-strobe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should really be powered by 8 D-cells.

      Or, maybe instead invite several scantly clothed model wannabe girlfriends powered w/ D "cells" to your party and nobody will be taking your picture... This is otherwize knows as a slave-girl-disrobe technique...

    2. Re:otherwise known as a slave-strobe by Beorytis · · Score: 1

      I have a slave strobe that fits into a standard light socket. I use it to improve exposure from weak flashes in a dark room. Here it is: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/121845-REG/Smith_Victor_690001_45_W_S_Screw_in_Strobe.html

  11. Does NOT work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flash will be there but limited to the source and light is DIRECTIONAL so if the source is not in the picture no masking

    1. Re:Does NOT work by pudding7 · · Score: 1

      Also, if the blocker thing is behind the camera, it won't work. Also, if the blocker thing is covered by a cardboard box, it won't work.

  12. Uh.. by RobinEggs · · Score: 0

    So I should be a vampire?

    I'm cool with that. Geeks are practically vampires already: we hate the sun, we can't score with chicks, we fear running water, and we talk funny.

  13. Speed Camera's by linatux · · Score: 1

    I always thought a similar device would be good defence against speed camera's - much easier to just not speed though (in my old/slow car)

    1. Re:Speed Camera's by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      All you need is a flash with 'slave' mode. Half decent flash units have a built in sensor that can be used to fire it, which is useful when you are doing a photo shoot with multiple flash units. So, you can mount one of those on the back of your car and give it a try at 250km/h down the E311, but don't complain to me if you end up with a million DH in fines...

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  14. I want this for my car by Joe+U · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can I get this for my license plates?

    1. Re:I want this for my car by jamesh · · Score: 1

      When was the last time you saw a flash when you got done for speeding?

    2. Re:I want this for my car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when your city has red-light cameras.

    3. Re:I want this for my car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Red light cameras here in the states use a flash to catch your plate.

    4. Re:I want this for my car by imunfair · · Score: 1

      Red light cameras also record video of a few seconds before and after the incident. So if someone is checking the video and theres some way to make out your license plate before the flash (maybe a streetlight or daytime?) - then you'd probably get a ticket for the infraction PLUS I'm sure trying to obscure your plate is ticketable.

    5. Re:I want this for my car by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      This is old technology in a new packing.

      Secondary flashes (or however they're called properly) are used for a very long time: usually in photo shoots where the camera of the photographer shoots a flash aimed at the ceiling, triggering the real flash (or multiple flashlights) that are positioned around the model to provide even lighting. This is the exact same principle, just with the secondary flash aimed at the camera instead.

      You should be able to easily build this into your car if you would want to. Put the flash detector in an appropriate spot, set up the flash light, and you're done. But whether it's legal or a good idea - I don't think so.

    6. Re:I want this for my car by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 2

      I've been wondering about illuminating my license plate with inexpensive infrared LEDs at each corner. They won't help during daylight hours, but IR-sensitive night cameras should be rendered useless. Great holiday gift for those with foil hats and hate the thought of automated license plate scanners that are being used to troll traffic for black hats.

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    7. Re:I want this for my car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      about 20 minutes ago, damn

    8. Re:I want this for my car by Rary · · Score: 1

      Can I get this for my license plates?

      Yes.

      http://www.phantomplate.com/

      http://loover.com/

      http://www.regblocker.com/

      http://www.photoblockercanada.com/

      Probably many others too. I have no idea the legality of these, but I've seen a few of them in the wild. I don't personally use or endorse any of them.

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    9. Re:I want this for my car by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      A product exists that might be suitable to your interests. "Once sprayed on your license plate, PhotoBlockerâ(TM)s special formula produces a high-powered gloss that reflects the flash back towards the camera. This overexposes the image of your license plate, rendering the picture unreadable. With PhotoBlocker, your license plate is invisible to traffic cameras yet completely legible to the naked eye."

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    10. Re:I want this for my car by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      Yes.

      For which value of Yes? None of those are the same as this.

  15. If there are two of them in the room, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    would the first stray flash trigger a duel to the death?

    1. Re:If there are two of them in the room, by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      LOL

      On a more serious note: no. After a flash or two the capacitors are empty and need to recharge from the batteries, which takes a while (seconds at least - more than enough to break the cycle). A flash can't fire often in quick succession.

    2. Re:If there are two of them in the room, by mdmkolbe · · Score: 1

      I think you've hit upon how to defeat it. Time to start getting suspicious of anyone carrying two cameras.

    3. Re:If there are two of them in the room, by identity0 · · Score: 1

      No, it would make the party an AWESOME MOSH PIT.

    4. Re:If there are two of them in the room, by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      Does that mean I get to carry two mugs of beer at all times?

  16. Probably easily defeated ... by Paolomania · · Score: 1

    ... by any anti-redeye camera that does a pre-flash. However, it is quite successful if considered solely as a promotional tool for this particular beer company.

    1. Re:Probably easily defeated ... by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      The preflash to to eliminate red eyes is a low intensity one, and often photocell-driven photographic equipment won't fire until the real deal.

    2. Re:Probably easily defeated ... by CaptBubba · · Score: 1

      The red-eye emission is typically a rapidly pulsed emission of much, much lower intensity flashes than the actual flash emission. Setting the trigger level would be pretty easy to do.

      I'd be more concerned about the pre-flash used for metering. You normally can barely see it but there are actually two pulses in nearly every camera flash: A pre-flash fires to figure out the reflectivity of the scene so the camera can know how long to fire the main flash. With a bit of bad luck it would be possible that the pre-flash could trigger the cooler flash and leave it without enough stored power for the main flash coming 1/20th of a second later. Of course most likely the effect of the cooler messing with the pre-flash metering would be enough to throw off the exposure of the photograph badly enough to render it useless.

  17. Suckers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You know it's a computer-generated farce, right? (It's not a real product.)

  18. Denial of Service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What might be really fun is when two of these things are in sight of one another. Then, you set off a flash and they will keep trying to stop each other from taking a picture until their battery wears out.

  19. IR hat by Xaide · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with just rigging up an infrared ball cap? Why aren't those being sold yet?

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  20. Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

    Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

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    1. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's probably never used a decent lens, or is one of those MegaPixies roolz Canon users.

      Nikon rules the night.

    2. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by planimal · · Score: 1

      you're also a massive nerd. most cameras are in the hands of half drunk J.A.P's and are little more than casual or cell phone cameras.

    3. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by geekprime · · Score: 1

      Ya, we arent inviting you OR your spycam to the party, thanks.

    4. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by samkass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nikon super-ISO modes are pretty awesome. But I still gotta give props to Canon for always having a $99 F/1.8 55mm lens available for any camera they make. The difference between your typical F/3.5 zoom versus an F/1.8 prime is like night and day (no pun intended). Too many people overspend on the body and underspend on the lens.

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    5. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In case you haven't noticed, this is "News for Nerds".

    6. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Awesome, now we just need every 15 year old girl to pull $5k worth of camera equipment from her purse to take a semi blurry snap that ends up on facebook.

      Let's face it. YOU are not a typical photographer.

      Also lets face it if you used an 85mm f/1.4 in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling in the gap between you and the subject you're trying to photograph :-P

    7. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt he was invited to many of the places him and "Ol' Nightstalker" have been taking pictures.

    8. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

      Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

      ahhh...why do you take such an expensive cam into every night club you visit???

    9. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      You'd carry your DSLR out with you to a "rager" or bar?

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    10. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That isn't his point. The point is that people here know enough about technical options, whereas Joe Six Pack only knows how to do it with a flash, making the special cooler useful for most situations.

    11. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by FloydTheDroid · · Score: 1

      Pics or it didn't happen

    12. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by timeOday · · Score: 1

      The D700 still has an autofocus assist light... busted!

    13. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The same reason that nerds use high dollar computers to visit every trashy site on the web? A guy who has good tools, no matter what trade, hobby, or profession he might be in, isn't going to keep a "backup" set of cheap tools around for those "less important" jobs. A real pro might have a workshop filled with ultra-expensive tools of his trade, but even his carry away bag of tools is going to be filled with quality items.

      Whatever your profession is, look at your own carry away "toolbox". Did you buy a bunch of junk from WalMart to fill it?

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    14. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The easier to have it stolen, my dear.

    15. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

      Is that an expression of pride at having spent some $5000 just so that you can continue, as per TFS, to be one of those wildly irresponsible people taking embarassing photos of people cheating on their spouses, being an idiot around their boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers? :P

    16. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by JonySuede · · Score: 4, Insightful

      s100 for fun... D700 for WOW... it be moronic and socially clueless to bring a DSLR to a night club...

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    17. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by durrr · · Score: 0

      You mean the special cooler makes Joe Sixpack take his decadent behaviour while partying a notch higher, thinking he's photo immune.
      When he subsequently is fired, divorced, ridiculed and goes to jail over pictures i'm sure he'll be happy

    18. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      And no one gives a shit.

      Given the type of photographer being targeted here uses the flash to take photos of fireworks.

    19. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

      Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

      Translation: No I haven't ever been to a bar or real party

    20. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by mark_elf · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

      Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

      Then they'll have to put a warning on it that says "not for use with MasterOfGoingFaster's Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens. He has images to back up that statement."

    21. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm. Sure. So, to you, a solution that works 95% of the time and then reduces the risk is worth nothing in your book? Is that the gut of your statement?

    22. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Nikon F1.8 50mm is around $50

    23. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      A carpenter isn't going to use his good circular saw blade to saw through firewood riddled with nails and screws. He'll use one that had years of service and isn't sharp enough anymore.
      A Ferrari owner isn't going to bring his good car to a destruction derbie. (besides the non-overlapping target audience :-P )
      Some of my friends have DSLR's. They all have a point and shoot camera for parties. My father is an amateur fotographer. He recently bought an E 150 or so ruggedised waterproof point and shoot to take fishing. On longer trips he'll also take the DSLR for scenery foto's but he won't take that when he's going to stand in a river.
      Some tools won't get damaged on the "less important" jobs (computers for example). Those you can get the best and use it for all jobs. Some tools may get damaged on rough jobs where an old tool would do. Some jobs require tools with different specs.

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    24. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Canon's 85mm prime was also designed 20 years ago and doesn't need a friggin steampunk screw to focus.

    25. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      That said, I wonder what sort of party affords enough subject distance to use an 85mm prime and have enough DoF at larger apertures.

    26. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea, but it also has manual focus and if the auto focus light is strong enough to trip the flash, it could be replaced with a standard strobe light to much the same effect.

    27. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by m50d · · Score: 1

      I only carry my less-powerful tablet when travelling, just for size and weight reasons, unless I know I'm going somewhere specifically to do computer gaming. I would expect it to be similar for photographers given how bulky those cameras get.

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    28. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by neyla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It doesn't, offcourse.

      It probably works reasonably well *if* the photo is a flash-photo, and taken from precisely such a direction that the beer-cooler is directly between your face and the camera.

      This might be the case for some fraction of embarassing photos, but certainly not 95%.

    29. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by findoutmoretoday · · Score: 1

      <quote><p>Nikon super-ISO modes are pretty awesome.  </p></quote>
      Yeah, but does it hold its beer?

    30. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...which you turn off, along with the AF-lock beep, the LCD and the illumination for the top LCD.

      That being said, I would still call this product nothing more then an ego-stroker :)

      (I make my living shooting mainly concerts and theatre... and I can attest to the "awesomeness" of D700, D3 and D3s when it comes to low light photography)

    31. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...which you can turn off.

    32. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a developer I used to keep an old computer around specifically for a VC5 project I had to maintain; didn't want to polute my main machine with old the VC5.
      Nowadays you just use a VM for this. I also tend to keep old software tools around even though I'm no longer using them for new projects.

      I also do photography as a hobby and have some expensive equipment, on a normal day I carry around a mobile phone with a good camera (phone was chosen mainly based on camera quality). As I understand it, most professional photographers also keep good P&S cameras around and some of the most famous photo's in the world are shot on the cheapest camera's of the time.

      Carpenters usually keep a cheap set of screwdrivers around as "multitools". They use the good screwdrivers to drive in screws and the cheap ones to poke, hammer, pry open, scratch and generally do things that will likely ruin the tool. There are more appropriate tools for each of these jobs, but a single disposable tool is a lot easier to carry around.

      The highest quality tool might be the best tool but it isn't necessarily the most appropriate tool for every situation..

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    33. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      I guess the point of the beer cooler is that it will cause most -casually taken- pictures to fail, not necessarily all pictures.

      Because I need guaranteed anonymity I always wear a baklava at parties. Or should that have been a balaklava - no wonder it didn't work.

    34. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by cbope · · Score: 1

      Nikon's "super-ISO" modes can't hold a candle, literally, to the Pentax K-5. The K-5 wipes the floor with it's high-ISO performance. At the moment, there are few cameras that come close, even several FF CaNikons fall victim. ISO 6400 is very clean and 12800 is usable if shooting RAW with moderate post-processing. I heard that passable shots can be had at ISO 25600 using heavier post-processing, but I have not tried it myself.

      Any by the way, I don't need to buy a *new* prime lens for a Pentax DSLR... the K-mount is still around and I can pick up an old Pentax-M or Pentax-A prime for very little money and use it on my K-5 (which I have). I can even use M42 screw-mount lenses from the 60's. Not even CaNikon has a bigger lens selection when you take into account that Pentax DSLR's are compatible with every Pentax K-mount and M42 lens ever made... and there is some very good old glass available if you look for it.

    35. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pics or it didn't happen!

    36. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      So ... in my night-time job as a divorce private eye, I get someone to go around pick-up bars with a flash camera, dropping fliers for this device (which I sell in my day job) ; this lulls the idiots whose spouses hire me into a false sense of security. When I'm paid to photograph them in flagrenti, I use my big-lens low-light camera.

      Err, (3) ... Profit?

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    37. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'll bite.

      several FF CaNikons fall victim

      Several? Try zero!
      According to http://www.dxomark.com/ every Nikon (D700, D3, D3X, D3S) and every Canon FF camera (5d, 5dii, 1d...) have higher "low light ISOs" scores than the K5.
      The K5 is a great camera, and it has very good High ISO performance for an APS-C camera. It seems to be on par with the D7000.
      But even 3 years old full-frame cameras have the edge on 2011 APS-C cameras.

      Finally, you don't have to buy *new* prime lenses for CaNikons. 30 years old AI lenses still work flawlessly on Nikon bodies.

    38. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by nahdude812 · · Score: 2

      in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling

      Not in the US! It'd be a mix of bar flies, trannies, and hot coeds drinking for free by using the power of suggestion on lonely guys looking to score. But not teenagers, no sir chief!

    39. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Just because any given tool does not protect against every possible attack does not mean its useless. Your typical Kevlar vest won't do much against a hellfire missile but I'd sure still want one if I were walking around parts of Yemen.

      Just because these flash thing won't defeat expensive cameras with high speed sensors, large lenses with low F stop values, powerful post processing features does not mean its useless. Most people don't have those things and the ones that do are still less likely to have these things in the place you'd brig this "beer cooler". I don't see many folks at the club with full size DSLRs hung from their necks.

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    40. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      but I'd sure still want one if I were walking around parts of Yemen.

      Fortunately, other people seem to be doing that for me. I seem to have become a bit of a coffee nerd, and IMO most of the Yemen beans I've tried are the fucking shizznit, and I love them. Oh, and BTW, not getting blown to bits is quite nice too.

    41. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you spent a lot of time and money to make sure you could violate my privacy?
      A hammer still works against that kind of equipment, I'll point out.

    42. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by slacker001 · · Score: 1

      Actually, there'd be 0 teenagers (in the US) as the legal drinking age is 21.

    43. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      ... and that's really representative of most of the pictures you see posted on facebook, right?

      Come on, only an idiot brings an expensive DSLR to a kegger, or even your typical beach/pool party.

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    44. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by gfxguy · · Score: 2

      Now who's being naive?

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    45. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Talennor · · Score: 1

      You're assuming someone that can't focus manually bought that camera?

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    46. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Most people don't have those things and the ones that do are still less likely to have these things in the place you'd brig this "beer cooler". I don't see many folks at the club with full size DSLRs hung from their necks.

      I don't see many people with beer coolers in bars, either.

    47. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus all this crap about toting around a D700 everywhere, seriously a bag with extra batteries and you lenses and you're looking at a good 20 pounds of crap. Few photographers carry that kind of gear everywhere because it sucks to lug it all around.

    48. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well, maybe if you kicked it up a notch and stopped going to dives like the Sandtrap Tavern, you might experience what the rest of us do. Namely, a lack of cockroaches and filth.

    49. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmmm. Sure. So, to you, a solution that works 95% of the time and then reduces the risk is worth nothing in your book? Is that the gut of your statement?

      I don't think that was the point durrr was making. I think the point was that Mr. Sixpack will use this cooler as a reason to be more obnoxious and annoying in his drunken revelry, regardless of whether or not it works. That is to say, the upshot of this device is worse parties and more annoyed partygoers, and if it DOES work as advertised, little to no consequences for such actions by our hypothetical soon-to-be-ex-friend Joe.

    50. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome, now we just need every 15 year old girl to pull $5k worth of camera equipment from her purse to take a semi blurry snap that ends up on facebook.

      Let's face it. YOU are not a typical photographer.

      Also lets face it if you used an 85mm f/1.4 in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling in the gap between you and the subject you're trying to photograph :-P

      Also let's face it that in 5 or 10 years, point-and-shoots (and probably many cell phones for that matter) will be performing pretty much the same as today's DSLRs. Some of the nicer point-and-shoots already do quite well without a flash - not the same level as today's DSLRs, but certainly on par with those of 5 years ago. And as for today's DSLRs, you don't even need an expensive one (or an expensive lens). My D5100 pulls off those kinds of exposures in the dark with the kit lens it ships with. Sure it's grainy as all hell, but it still manages to pick up more detail than most people's eyes do at the same light levels.

    51. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a professional photographer, when I am not working, i take a cheap point and shoot camera... most photographers have two or three good camera bodies and a point and shoot, and usually they all travel with them. Even during a full crew photoshoot I will have my point and shoot with me... I wouldnt take my Canon 7D and 200mm lens to a party I wasnt being paid to shoot, comparing camera gear to a high dollar computer is silly... Your high dollar computer is worthless in a few years, my first professional SLR camera, bought in 1985 is still the bread and butter of my studio.. Sure new versions of camera's come out every few years, and for entry level dSLR's every 6 months, but they do not make the old version obsolete... only wannabe photographers thing the latest in camera features are usefull.... Remember, some of the best artisists photos were takin' with a kodak brownie... The skill is in the photographer, not the camera.

    52. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 1

      Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

      Is that an expression of pride at having spent some $5000 just so that you can continue, as per TFS, to be one of those wildly irresponsible people taking embarassing photos of people cheating on their spouses, being an idiot around their boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers? :P

      None of the above. The bar pays me to shoot. I try to get tasteful images of people having a good time. So I have a good (professional) reason to be doing this with pro gear. I only shared this because nearly everyone thinks they are safe from cameras in dark bars. But Slashdotters should know better...

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    53. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 1

      Also lets face it if you used an 85mm f/1.4 in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling in the gap between you and the subject you're trying to photograph :-P

      I'm tall and work fast. I also time the gaps in the crowd. If you think about it, you'll see there's easy ways to deal with all that.

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    54. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that this trick only works for the first picture regardless. After that, if they want to take a picture of you puking, they'll just throw a jacket over the keg for a second.

    55. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    56. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Then you need to read the summary. It doesn't need to be in any precise direction, and it doesn't need to be between your face and the camera. Otherwise, any piece of crap would work, such as your hand, glass, etc.

    57. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Good for you. Really :-)

      The only time I did a gig similar I felt silly carting a 35mm along. All the other guys were shooting with a 14-24 or something equivalent for their various cameras.

      Mind your we only have a few clubs in our city and there's usually long queues to get in (yay for press passes), and they are usually so tightly packed that you'd need to plan your toilet 20min in advance to take into account time wading around the dancefloor.

      To be honest, I didn't like club photography. Landscapes are far more calming :-)

    58. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      Which part of "in my night-time job as a divorce private eye" did you not read?

      Oh, and yes, I do take decent cameras to parties from time to time. They may not be as populated by degenerate idiots as the ones you frequent, but that's your choice of party. Babboon-like beer-swilling college retards are unlikely to be able or willing to pay my divorce investigation fees, so don't come into consideration.

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    59. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by neyla · · Score: 1

      If you believe the marketing-spiel, sure. In real life, this is just a flash-triggered-flash, i.e. it's got a fast photosensor and a few leds that fire when detecting a flash.

      That's not magic, and infact "any piece of crap" describes it pretty well.

    60. Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure a camera with a 3.3 inch lens is very good for stealthily taking pictures.

  21. So what if there's more than one in one place? by mark-t · · Score: 1
    Imagine for a moment a room where between six to ten people have one of these. Someone snaps a photo, and one goes off. The flash sets off another, which in turn sets of others, and so on, eventually retriggering the first one.

    While arguably an interesting light show, I don't think that's an intended behavior.

    1. Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      At a techno pub, nobody would notice.

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    2. Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? by rev0lt · · Score: 3, Informative

      It won't work that way. Assuming the device is made as any other professional flash, the speed of the operation will be too fast and the bightness spike duration will be too short to have a cascading effect. I've worked with professional studio flashes, and this behavior don't happen.

    3. Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 1

      In 2nd Edition we called it Color Spray.

  22. I Predict This Joke Will Fly... by cmholm · · Score: 1

    ...over the heads of some commenters.

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  23. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that's the reason why you can join the army at 18 but can't drink until you're 21.

    If you really want to drink legally at 18, you can join the army and get stationed over seas for a few years get out and get a decent paying job with your military training...

    Of course at 18, you could also decide to go to college, to drink illegally at off-campus parties, and to major in underwater basket weaving and end up graduating with $100K in debt w/o job prospects...

    So your point is? (yes I know your point)

  24. concert photos by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    are you an official photographer? do you go to shows where they let you use good equipment or at least don't try too hard to stop you?
    I don't have luck taking photos at concerts unless I'm standing real close.
    if it's not way-too-dark, glare from stage lights can mess up the shot.

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    1. Re:concert photos by rev0lt · · Score: 4, Informative

      My wife is a professional photographer and consultant, I sometimes use her equipment to take some shots. But I can give you some hints based on what I know:

      You will need a DSLR camera. Sometimes you can take good shots with a compact camera, sometimes you can't. Professional-looking equipment is also part of the show, so people will bother you less if you look like a professional.
      You usually won't be able to make good close-ups from far away without a tripod (and you probably won't get inside with a tripod), so you'll need to be close to the stage. Work with your camera in manual mode or speed priority, use a lens with a good aperture (be aware that below f/1.8 many not-so outrageusly expensive lenses may suffer from severe chromatic aberrations), use a sensible ISO value for the lens aperture and the kind of venue, and be aware that you probably won't take good pictures using the camera on your hands with speeds below 1/20s. If many variables confuse you, you may try a fixed aperture lens - you can probably find something like f1.8/50mm cheap, that will allow you to do good close-ups. As I said, I've used a common 18-55mm/3.5-5.6 with good results, but with a f/1.8 lens you'll be able to take dark photos and capture all the essence of the moment.

      Some (good) photographers use speelites (those flashes you put on top of your camera) for floodfilling. You point your flash to the ceiling, and on a minimal setting, so it will "light up" the scene or the background without causing too much damage. Many use filters to scatter the flashlight and/or a small reflector to minimize impact on the public. Some (bad) photographers just think they need it, and spend all the time they have ruining other people's photos with light contamination.
      One final note regarding equipment - live concerts are terrible for cameras, be aware that you may have to send your machine and lenses to be cleaned every year or so. The cigarrete smoke and from special effects machines will slowly make your machine dirty.

      Now the good stuff - how to get in & get away with it: Get a professional-looking DSLR! If it is a local venue, you can contact the organization previously and ask for permission to take pictures, They usually allow it if you give them a copy of the resulting pictures. Many times you can score a free ticket if you already have portfolio. If the organization doesn't respond you, sometimes contacting the band directly works, but don't expect a free ticket. If nothing works, park near the venue and try to go in with the camera, they probably won't stop you if you look like a "photographer".
      With smaller bands, they won't care if your photographing or not, specially if not using a flash at all. In bigger venues, expect to have a limited time to take pictures (usually the 2 first songs). I've actually seen concerts where the band stopped the concert until everyone stopped flashing their eyes.
      Authorization from the organizers usually will allow you to go to the "special zone" between the stage and the public, but not much more. Every other situation may or may not give you access to that, so ask politely to whoever is doing security there.

      Don't take my experience as a gospel (I'm from an european country, it may be different where you live), specially because my experience is mainly extreme metal concerts. Last advice - the mosh pit isn't the place to carry expensive equipment, so be careful if you cross it.

    2. Re:concert photos by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      Sorry, too quick to submit. You should use Aperture Priority and not Speed Priority.

    3. Re:concert photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extreme metal? 1/20s? Srsly? 1/100s and faster will get your "trash" rate of pictures down a good deal, 1/80s is tricky, 1/50s is already border line. Longer shutter times can work, if you exactly know what you are doing and what kind of picture you want to take, otherwise I would strongly advise to use anything slower than 1/50s (and, as said, that is massively border line already). Aperture priority may work, but you risk getting too slow shutter times.

      Smaller locations prefer shorter focal lengths; if you have enough space you may even consider using 2 cameras, one with a short and another with a long(er) focal length, so you don't need to change lenses during the concert (which also helps against additional dirt inside your equipment). The longer focal lengths are also very good to do close ups without standing right in the middle (or even in front of) the mosh pit.

    4. Re:concert photos by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      thanks.
      even without getting involved professionally/officially (or appearing to do so), that information might prove useful.

      * quick shutter speed
      * properly aim flash

      it's the smaller bands/venues that tend to be more lenient or even openly supportive.
      might be easier to get away with smaller equipment with bands/venues that are less

      if the pit's large/intense enough, it's hard to do anything else

      once I used a small tripod and security told me off a few songs in. :P

      last show I was at, the lead vocalist paused to tell a guy with a camera that what he was doing is OK.
      At many shows, the performers have posed for pictures, supporting the behavior without specifically commenting upon it.

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    5. Re:concert photos by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      I've uploaded some examples for you see what to expect to http://qbrosr.imgur.com/all/
      Those photos are some years old, were taken with a EOS350D with a 24-70mm F/2.8. Most pictures were taken with F/3.5, 1/40 and ISO1600. None of them uses flash.

  25. Alternate uses may pop up by CaptBubba · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A pretty good marketing stunt, but I'm sure other uses can be found for this in areas where photos are not desired for privacy reasons.

    One that I can think of right away would be at abortion clinics. Many protestors will try to take photographs of the people entering the clinics and then post them online to try and shame them. I'd love to see this sort of tech spoil their day.

    1. Re:Alternate uses may pop up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This probably wouldn't work as well in the daylight.

  26. Ad Campaign Vaporware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This thing is not on the market, an Argentinian ad agency came up with the idea for a beer company, though the article linked to says they've been distributed to bars across Argentina. http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/ad-day-norte-beer-136868

  27. Mod article down, -1 Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on, /., you're supposed to be smarter than this. There's no way this thing could maintain the energy to fire-off a flash, continuously, nor respond in-time to a received flash, to blind the camera taking the picture, assuming the camera taking the picture is even using a flash. Then again, how do you know the cooler will even be in the shot with you? You don't, and that's kind of the point. Even if it could work for the most-part, it would still be mostly useless. Like Christmas coming earlier and earlier every year, so apparently, is April 1st. Also, I agree with the previous poster who said something like "a good way not to have your photograph taken doing something stupid or embarrassing in public, is to refrain from doing things that are stupid and embarrassing in public. I paraphrased, of course.

    1. Re:Mod article down, -1 Bullshit by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      There's no way this thing could maintain the energy to fire-off a flash, continuously, nor respond in-time to a received flash, to blind the camera taking the picture

      Dunnof it its implemented here (corporate restrictions), but it's very well possible to do. A simple circuit can consist of an LDR, two transisors (in Darlington), some resistors, a POTmeter for adjustment, a fast flashlight (probably led based) and a couple of high energy capacitors to store the charge (charge supplied by batteries). You only have to flash before the shutter closes to overexpose the picture so, assuming there will only be phone camera's, 1/100th of a second after the "trigger" flash should do. 1/1000th should be possible.

      assuming the camera taking the picture is even using a flash.

      Most parties are quite dark, from a photography perspecive. Most phone cams (the most cams used in this kind of thing) use flash to compensate for the small lens

      Then again, how do you know the cooler will even be in the shot with you? You don't, and that's kind of the point.

      Earlier in the replies somebody noted it was a 1-beer type of cooler. If I may assume it's in your hand (containing the beer you are drinking) it will probably be in the picture.

      Also, I agree with the previous poster who said something like "a good way not to have your photograph taken doing something stupid or embarrassing in public, is to refrain from doing things that are stupid and embarrassing in public

      I agree, and so does the writer of the summary:

      Now you can go about your usual business of cheating on your spouse, being an idiot around your boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers without worrying that some wildly irresponsible person will tag you in a photo and posts it online.

      Your sarcasm meter is way off if it didn't detect that. I have a $10K repair kit for sale if you need it.

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  28. No Strobe Lights in Clubs anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe i'm a bit old fashioned but I always assumed a Club included the use of a flashing strobe-like device.

    Get off my lawn!.

  29. Solving a problem that doesn't exist.. by crossmr · · Score: 1

    you need to approve photos tagged of you before people can see them..
    hardly a concern..

  30. Just because you won't get caught in a bar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...doesn't mean you won't make yourself look foolish elsewhere. I smiled when I saw on their site the 200+ people that Liked the product. Now sll your family and friends know you have something to hide.

  31. Erotica show in London by Geeky · · Score: 2

    I go to Erotica in London every year (if you don't know what it is, google it - it's held at Olympia every November).

    In previous years, photography has been banned outright. You were even supposed to leave cameras with security if you had them on you when you arrived.

    This year, the terms and conditions allowed for photography as long as it was with the consent of the subject. I guess they realised they were fighting a tide and couldn't police all the camera phones so just gave in to the inevitable.

    Lots of people dress up (or down!) for it, though, and some give free rein to their "thing" - you see people in slave gear, cross dressers and so on. Despite the rules, people were taking surreptitious snaps which no doubt would end up online. OK, the subjects won't be tagged, but who's to say that they won't be spotted?

    While I firmly believe noone should care what you do in your private life, a genuine picture blocker would be useful in the sad world in which we live.

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    Sigs are so 1990s. No way would I be seen dead with one.
    1. Re:Erotica show in London by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      They have those led's that constantly emit a near visible light that can obscure your face in most photo's from the glare. Put a couple of those with some watch batteries into your collar and you can probably hide your identity from >95% of photographs.

  32. Gadgets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thing is as useful as a USB humping dog.

  33. Easy work-around by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

    This just seems stupid.
    You don't even need a full-frame camera with an expensive 1.4 lens in order to get good shots.
    Any camera with manual control over aperture and flash output will do.
    This "picture blocking beer cooler"(TM)(C) is just an additional light-source with constant output, so consider it as such :

    1) Camera set to Manual mode (let's say ISO 100, f/3.5, 1/60, Daylight WB) and low pop-up flash on manual (say 1/16). The pop-up flash only helps to trigger the beer-cooler, and soon won't contribute to the picture. It's on manual to avoid pre-flashes that could mess up the beer-cooler and the exposure.
    2) Take a picture with the beer cooler 2 feet apart from your subject.
    3) It's probably too bright. Dial down your aperture till you get decent looking light on the subject. Say it's f/11.
    4) The cooler will still be much too bright. Either you don't care and leave it in the frame for a cool flare effect, or you move it just outside of your frame, without changing the distance from cooler to subject.
    5) Your ambient light is probably too dark, and you only see a well-exposed subject between a big flare and and an almost black background.
    6) If other coolers are around, this might look cool, with patches of people well exposed in the background and even more flare.
    7) The shutter speed doesn't have any influence on the exposure of the beer-cooler or the flash-lit subject, so you can use a longer exposure to bring back some detail to the environment.
    8) You can even use long exposure (say 2 seconds) to get cool looking pictures. You don't care about camera-shake, because the beer-cooler will freeze the moment. You can even zoom or rotate the camera during the exposure. Using rear-curtain flash might bring more natural-looking pictures.
    9) Take good pictures all night long without having to change any parameter, without using too much battery because your flash is now outsourced.

  34. Just do as the Germans do by The+Creator · · Score: 1

    They pull on a leather mask with a zipper over the mouth before going to the "club".

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  35. Takedown ? by redelm · · Score: 2

    While the photog owns copyright in asny pictures taken, the subjects of the photo also have rights. Why else do newsies get signed releases?

    Once you discover a undesireable photo, why not send a DMCA takedown notice to the offending site (Facebook?)

  36. Speed/Red light cameras? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More importantly, can it work against speed/red light cameras?

  37. Product replacement by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

    This will go great with my strobe light at my next party!

    You won't need a strobe light. Just make sure everyone brings one of these things. The cascade of flashes will blind everyone ;-)

  38. but... but... they pay me.... by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 1

    ... it be moronic and socially clueless to bring a DSLR to a night club...

    You are lacking data. The bar owner pays me to shoot the bands and guests. Thus I'm invited, and people want me to photograph them because I make them look a lot better than their friend's iWhatever.

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    1. Re:but... but... they pay me.... by JonySuede · · Score: 1

      then you are on duty and it is perfectly fine to bring your best tools, sorry for the assumption...

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  39. What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if someone... stands in front of the beer cooler flash....

  40. Larry Eustachy by MacColossus · · Score: 1

    Former Iowa State Cyclone basketball coach might still be married and working at Iowa State had he had this product. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/507716-the-biggest-party-animals-in-sports/page/5

  41. 2 D700 bodies, lenses = 9 lbs. by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 1

    Plus all this crap about toting around a D700 everywhere, seriously a bag with extra batteries and you lenses and you're looking at a good 20 pounds of crap. Few photographers carry that kind of gear everywhere because it sucks to lug it all around.

    It does suck to lug around all that weight, but sometimes that is the price you have to pay to get the results I'm after. A D700 and 24mm f/1.4 lens is about 4.25 lbs, and a D700/MB10/85mm f/1.4 is just under five lbs. With one on each shoulder, I'm carrying about 9 lbs. I don't need any other cards or batteries, since I have an entire spare camera.

    And I'm way better off then those guys carrying heavy pro zooms and flashes.

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