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Kazakhstan Disables the Internet , Telecomix Restores

bs0d3 writes "In the face of oil protests on their 20th independence day, Kazakhstan has blocked the internet and disabled cellphone towers in the city of Zhanaozen. As with previous internet blackouts, hactivist group telecomix is putting together free dial-up servers for people blacked out in this region."

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  1. Couldn't Resist... by broginator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Very nice!

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  2. Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who still has a modem thats capable of dial-up????

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    1. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by astropirate · · Score: 2

      People not in "developed" countries..?

    2. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lots of recent laptops still come with them - it's cheaper to include it than it is to remove it by changing the motherboard design.

      Also, the government action is self-defeating. Trying t get back at oil workers on a sit-down strike doesn't get those oil workers back to work - and oil workers are a specialized trade. Firing and blacklisting one group "en masse" just means you now have a smaller pool to hire from. Reagan could do it during the air traffic controllers' strike because there were others available to hire and you can use new technology to fill some of the gap - this isn't the case in an industry where technology has already taken up all the slack it can, and there's a world-wide shortage of oil workers.

    3. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by jhoegl · · Score: 2

      I agree, comparing your first world devices to third world nations is worthy of commentary.

    4. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Who still has a modem thats capable of dial-up????

      I've got an old first generation Powerbook G3 that still boots up. Got a hole on the side with a little picture of a phone.

      First I'll have to clean all the cat hair off. She used to sleep on it because it got so nice and toasty warm.

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    5. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by dbIII · · Score: 2, Informative

      The former USSR was developed - the countries that came from it most likely more so.
      It's possible the average level of education there is greater than what was available to you, especially in geography and modern history it appears.

    6. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      Trying t get back at oil workers on a sit-down strike doesn't get those oil workers back to work - and oil workers are a specialized trade. Firing and blacklisting one group "en masse" just means you now have a smaller pool to hire from.

      They are not firing them, they're firing at them, quite literally. Anywhere from 10 to 70 people killed, depending on who you ask. And it's not like those workers can freely pack and move elsewhere, either.

    7. Re:Hard to do w/o a Hayes compatible modem.... by dbIII · · Score: 2

      To you and the above - if you can't travel at least read a newspaper that reports on places outside of your own country or it's equivalent.
      By the way the "faster-than-56k modems" shows somebody else without the least clue about dialup, so why should I care about some ignorant idiot saying I don't know what I am talking about?

  3. Re:On methods of independent verification by AngryDeuce · · Score: 2

    To be fair, I'd say that is about as reliable as the media, not necessarily more or less.

  4. Hey by Galestar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least in the Land of the Free we don't kill protesters. We just pepper spray them, beat them senseless, and arrest them only to let them go 24 hours later without charges.

    America's dead. Long live America.

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    1. Re:Hey by a_kibitzer · · Score: 4, Informative

      The kids at Kent State and Jackson State may disagree with you.

    2. Re:Hey by Grygus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have not been repeated yet. People have been hurt. It's only a matter of time before some Occupy kids decide they've had enough and actually fight back; if some of the cops are willing to assault completely peaceful protesters, what will they do given a reason to be afraid? It seems very unlikely to me that they will suddenly become professionals with a modicum of restraint. It doesn't take a corrupt police force; just one coward with a gun. We've already seen that those are being deployed to these events. I think it is inevitable unless the protests die out fairly quickly.

    3. Re:Hey by element-o.p. · · Score: 2

      It is patently obvious to any but the brain-dead that you simply cannot trust ANYONE - police, army, civilians - with anything capable of deadly force. Not a single one of you has the capacity to reason when usage is appropriate.

      I was agreeing with your posts up until this one. Unfortunately, your statement quoted above is a crock of bovine poo. I have owned a number of firearms since I was old enough to legally purchase them, and I have never even considered using one on another human being. Why? Because the rules of engagement are crystal clear: when I have reason to believe that my life, or my family's life, is in mortal peril I will use whatever force -- up to and including, if necessary -- deadly force. In all other cases, the gun stays put away. Fortunately, the situations where deadly force is necessary are very, very rare...as in "I have yet to encounter one" rare.

      And here's the clincher: there isn't a single thing any police force or government can do to completely eliminate the possibility of someone using deadly force on another. Guns aren't the problem. Neither are tanks, swords, knives, bows, belts, towels, rocks, box cutters, screwdrivers, laptop computers, magazines, newspapers, broom handles, molotov cocktails or any other "weapon" that any human being has ever leveraged against another in violence. Because the only deadly weapon that actually exists is the one between our ears. Our brain is the only tool we need for turning ordinary, harmless objects into weapons; attempting to eliminate the weapons in order to keep people from hurting each other is a futile effort because we are creative enough to find ways to turn anything within reach into a weapon when all else has failed.

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  5. Re:Internet loss = BAD by icebraining · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would just curl

    Not without Internet, you wouldn't!

  6. What's the best low bandwidth way to send a msg.? by wisebabo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Other than e-mail, what is the best way to get your message across (probably text only) to the largest number of people?

    Some sort of newsgroup, bulletin board? Or is it twitter? (But then you need to have a following right? I don't know, I don't tweet).

    Heaven forbid that we (in the democratic west) ever face this problem but maybe while traveling we might face a situation where just getting a few characters out of info could mean a world of difference. I'm reminded of the time when that Israeli scientist who blew the cover on their nuclear program was caught. As he was being transported via a van in front of a bunch of photographers, he pressed his palm up to the glass where, clearly legible, was a short message (I think it said where he had been kidnapped). I think there was another short message sent by a journalist right when he was being taken in by the Egyptian police (a long time ago) which helped keep him from "disappearing".

    Hope that never, ever happens to me. Maybe having a tiny USB modem should be part of my travel kit.

  7. Re:What's the best low bandwidth way to send a msg by fred911 · · Score: 2

    We used to use usenet. Simple and effective. RIP

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  8. Re:What's the best low bandwidth way to send a msg by chikanamakalaka · · Score: 2

    HAM Radio

  9. Re:Internet loss = BAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He still doesn't wget it....

  10. Re:What's the best low bandwidth way to send a msg by bbqsrc · · Score: 2

    Even if you don't have a large following on Twitter, for things like this situation, there is almost always a hashtag for the protest in use. For Egypt, it was #jan25, so if you wanted to send a message about Egypt to as many people as possible, you send a message with #jan25 somewhere in it, and people would easily find it, and retweet it to their followers.

    Abstractly, in a lot of ways a hashtag on Twitter is like an asynchronous equivalent to an IRC channel, in that you can search for it and get any messages from that tag at any time, and share them with your followers. Hope that helps.

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  11. Particularly since they are almost nothing by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    More or less all a modem is in a laptop these days is the hardware to convert the impedance and voltage to work with the 48v balanced phone system. There is no logic, it is all handled in software. Computers are so powerful it isn't hard to do anymore and there's no real performance issue. As such adding one to a system is dirt cheap.

    Also there are some geeks, like me, that still have a modem laying around. I have an old USR Courier in my closet. Should I need it for any reason, like when I move to a new place and am waiting on cable to get hooked up (though they are much faster now) I have it. I haven't used it in years, particularly what with having a smartphone, but I still keep it because why not?

  12. Re:First Post by tqk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It adds more to the conversation that using buzzwords like "hacktivist".

    I happen to like that word. What's wrong with it?

    English is a bastard language, stealing from wherever and then mangling what it stole into whatever form it pleases. What's your problem?

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  13. Re:nbd by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of all Asian Soviet republics, Kazakhstan was the most well developed. Among other things, it's where Baikonur is.

  14. Re:First Post by jd · · Score: 2

    A "hacktivist" is someone who is either a Black Hat or a Grey Hat who uses their skills for political activist purposes rather than curiosity, non-directional malice, boredom or because they have a script. It has a definite meaning, it serves a definite purpose, so it's not a buzzword. It may be overused, but that's not the word's fault.

    I don't know if the word is in the OED yet, but if it is then it is a proper word. The OED is the bastion of the English Language and what it say goes. It is the only definitive source for the language and therefore any word therein is a part of the language.

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  15. Re:First Post by Luckyo · · Score: 2

    Point of reference: lesbian vaginal sex.

  16. One more thing ... by dbIII · · Score: 2

    Why do you assume that nothing has progressed since those places were opened in in the 1990s? That's a very strange assumption if you ask me and implies that you think the place should have stayed as it was.

  17. Re:First Post by tqk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes the English language had diverse roots but came to a standardised form MANY moons ago ...

    Hogwash! As recently as Churchill ("... up with which, I will not put!"), it's been a lively language. Hell, all you need to do is put an Englishman in a room with a Scot, an Irish, an Aussie/Zealander, a Canuck, and a North and a South US-ian, and you'll be hard pressed to understand what anyone's saying. Extra points if the Englishman is Cockney.

    The French have been trying to set their language in stone for quite a while by law, and look how that's turned out.

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