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New Car Anti-Theft Device Profiles Your Rear End
Hugh Pickens writes "A car-seat identifier developed at Japan's Advanced Institute of Industrial Technology by Associate Professor Shigeomi Koshimizu can recognize a person by his or her rear end with 98 percent accuracy when the person takes a seat in his car. The bucket seat's lower section is lined with 360 pressure sensors that measure pressure on a scale from 0 to 256, sending information to a laptop, which aggregates the information, generates the key data and produces a precise map of the seated person's rear profile. Researchers say traditional biometric techniques such as iris scanners and fingerprint readers cause stress to people undergoing identity checks, while the simple act of getting seated carries less psychological baggage. Koshimizu wants to see his work available commercially as an anti-theft product in two to three years if automakers agree to collaborate. He sees possibilities of this device being used beyond auto-theft identity protection to a device for security identification in office settings, where users log on to their PCs as they sit down."
Some people apply their rear pressure differently based on if their rear load is full, empty or something in between. Not only does your overall weight change, but also the formation of rear pressing against the seat will be different, especially depending on your nutrition and different days. Is it going to be able to detect such load changes without many problems? Obviously there needs to be some kind of threshold, but if your rear pressure varies a lot the device could even lock you out from using your car.
"measure pressure on a scale from 0 to 256" ... what an odd design choice.
No, honey; it's your arse that makes you look fat.
How is detecting your rear any more stupid than your fingerprint? It's way more convenient, and especially so with cars as you're going to be sitting down anyway.
Technician: Hello, this is OnStar. How can I help you?
Owner: I locked my keys in my car, can you unlock it?
Technician: Certainly, let me just bring up your profile... Wow, sweet pooper -- do you do Zumba?
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Oh yeah, who wants to drive to and from work EVERY day. With 2% failure rate, you can expect 8 failures-to-drive a year.
I mean, seriously, 98% is a good rate, but putting it on something one uses every day is just an accident waiting to happen.
Plus you won't be able to lend your car easily.
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'your ass is mine'.
Ganty
and i can not lie.
Only, if that device learns to adjust its saved profile of me as I get fatter and fatter, it would be great. It means even if someone somehow gets all data about my butt, I only need to make a diet or eat some more and all my previous butt data will become worthless. Mwahaha.
Seriously though: lol.
Rash of False Car Thefts Reported Late Evening of Christmas Eve
And the subheading reads: People heading home after pigging out at relatives' feasts trigger new derriere alarms in their vehicles
Now as you mention tentacles... next up: Artificial vagina able to profile users, may be used in anti-theft devices shortly.
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yours truly
Wacky Japanese
That is "98% accuracy" with a test set of six persons. Meaning that this is more press release than solid science. Go on, try again with six thousand persons, see if you still reach 98%. Then try again over time. Good luck figuring the ex-sumo wrestler before and after the weight loss associated with stopping sumo wrestling.
Can't help thinking of the Monty Python song.
So what happens when your ass no longer matches the profile? Will you still be able to start your car or log into your computer?
And I am not necessarily talking about getting fatter over time. It is possible to get leg and back injuries that cause you to sit differently with different pressure applied to different areas when you sit down. What about people with hemorrhoids that need to sit on an inflatable donut?
my arse [they will]
you're walking until you loose those extra pounds.
If I owned a car, I'd likely drive it to work every day. I'd also drive it home from work every day. Quality statistics aside, that's 50 car tips every 25 days, not every 50.
Support a few technologists in Washington.
How is detecting your rear any more stupid than your fingerprint?
Fingerprints ridges have tens, or hundreds depending on the system, of computer verifiable data points. With an ass you have weight, shape, position and behavior, but it's only possible to get a few limited data points out of each. A good fingerprint reader can achieve 99% accuracy. I believe almost all the accuracy from this device will be based on a single data point: weight. Weight is a good addition to a security system, it's already used in some areas, but thinking it can ID a person is silliness.
I would much rather hand over my keys if an armed would-be-car-thief came at my new gadget-filled vehicle than hop in and drive him to his chop shop of choice.
Also, to pass this "security" test the driver's door must already have been unlocked and opened.
I'll be your candy shop of infinite deliciousity if you'll be my discotheque of endless rump-shaking.
0 to 255. Yeesh.
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In 2015, Koshimizu, struggling financially, sells his accumulated pressure sensor data to a third party software animation company. The third party matches the data with leaked DMV license photos and registration information. Two months later, sit-on-my-face-while-driving.jp is one of the 100 most visited sites in the world.
Ugh, you mean 0 to 255?
If an officer ever threatens to taze you, say you have a pacemaker.
I's more likely.
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
obvious comments, such as "... obviously this feature will not prove popular with women."
...what happens in those 2 of 100 cases it detected your behind wrongly? :D
i ate too much at the bar and the car wouldn't start.
The scene: Aristocratic antique styled dining room. There's a long table to seat over 20 guests with a prominent chair at the head for the prime minister.
You see various servants tidying up and leaving the room one by one while a butler inspects, he leaves last.
*Ethan Hunt carefully drops down from the skylight suspended by a cable*
*After much twisting acrobatics he replaces the seat cushion on the prime ministers chair with a pressure sensitive decoy unit* (For suspense let's put in a scene where he nearly knocks over a glass of red wine and catches the spilt drop with one hand while holding the glass with the other, a single drop of sweat will fall on a plate at this point, Ethan will wince as the drop lands but he won't have time to wipe the plate off)
*He quickly lifts up just as the butler returns to the dining room, nudging the sensor into perfect alignment right as it leaves his reach*
*Butler notices the drop of sweat and raises an eyebrow curiously, he then makes an icy stare at the servant girl who set that area as she enters the room, she looks fearful and guilty*
*Cut to MI van parked outside, a 3D printer is printing out a faux-butt for Ethan to wear while he steals the prime minister's car, it is spraying a realistic flesh tone over the perfectly carved rear* (Insert witty joke from Luther about Ethan's butt, perhaps stating that he had to guess the color and hopes it's right)
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Just another something to break and require a costly repair.
Years ago, I didn't go for the automatic seat belts which put the shoulder part in place but you still had to manually do the lap part. It had no benefit and was just another thing that could break.
Am I locked out of using my car if I put my wallet in the other rear pants pocket? My exercise pant don't even have read pockets.
A growth industry?
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I believe almost all the accuracy from this device will be based on a single data point: weight. Weight is a good addition to a security system, it's already used in some areas, but thinking it can ID a person is silliness.
The bucket seat's lower section is lined with 360 pressure sensors that measure pressure on a scale from 0 to 256, sending information to a laptop, which aggregates the information, generates the key data and produces a precise map of the seated person's rear profile.
*emphasis mine*
Fingerprint recognition works by creating an image of the print. This new method is no different, though the resolution is much, much lower and the area being examined is different.
A person's weight is not evenly distributed across their cheeks. Even if it were then the shape and size of the crack differs from person to person; I'm not saying this is the be-all and end-all of arse recognition but it does illustrate the point that one might be able to differentiate between people by looking at their backsides.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
What about valet parking or taking the car to the shop? Obviously, there has to be some kind of override and as such, thieves, will find a way to hack it and still steal the vehicle.
I'm sorry Dave, I can not open the garage doors and let you drive out in your car since you gained 5 kilo during xmas. You need exercise, take the cycle.
This'll give added meaning to the term "Oklahoma Edition..."
1) Do you think this "seat weight distribution" seat key is more or less creepy than a "scratch and sniff" seat key? Ditto analysis for not just creepy, but success in the market, for example, facebook is creepy, yet also is a huge success?
2) How long until a virus is released that uploads the stored key data, for either this weight system, or my proposed odor sniffing system, to facebook or whatever social media platform of your choice? I'm giving it less than a year. I am undecided if fakes should count; an example of a fake would be a odor analysis system that randomly tweets "Captain, sensors $owner ate at taco bell last night" rather than actually sampling the air in the area to determine it. I suppose the weight distribution system might be sensitive enough to detect digestive rumblings or forcefully expelled gasses, so the possibility of this exists for that platform also.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
I'm not sure how to go about this.. should i really be comfortable with my car modeling an image of my wife's ass? What about that Auto(mobile)IQ thing?
I'm sure this is probably racially insensitive to discuss, but around here a "Chinese Firedrill" is where a car full of (drunk) people at a red light get out of the car, sprint around the car continually in a circle, and when the light turns green, or someone pukes, at which point everyone leaps back into the car, statistically likely to be a different driver. Then you drive away and repeat at the next stoplight. This is much more fun in the big city than the little village with only one stoplight. The reaction of the other drivers watching these antics is always funny. Well, thats what 5 digit UID /.ers did for fun in cars as kids before they invented smartphones and texting while driving and sex. Over the decades the prevalence of this has decreased with increasing enforcement of drunk driving laws and increased police militarization and paranoia (they are doing something weird, better call it into the terrorist hotline just in case, if you see something say something!). As a side issue I'm genuinely mystified why this activity is claimed as "Chinese" because I feel I should be able to come up with something far more racially insensitive to do at a stop light with a bunch of drunks, but then again I can't think of much else to do with a car full of drunks that doesn't involve expelling recently consumed bodily fluids. Maybe the name is a part of the "joke" making it even more ridiculous than it already is?
Anyway the point of this ramble is, whatever you call this fine upstanding activity, what happens if you boot the car with one rear, and while running the rear magically changes into another rear? Nothing? Onstar reports a suspected car jacking? Onstar reports a car full of drunken idiots?
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
To the best of my knowledge, the engine-kill anti-theft device has never been circumvented by any thief who did not have legitimate keys to the car in the first place.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I think the wider application for this technology will be in the workplace... to track when/if employees are actually sitting at their desks.
Score rear ends based on its measurements. Lets you know how your date scores on a 1 - 10 scale. Just don't use voice announcements.
Tells you when you need to go on a diet. great gift for the significant other in your life.
Think your significant other is cheating? - check out the butt log.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
To the best of my knowledge, the engine-kill anti-theft device has never been circumvented by any thief who did not have legitimate keys to the car in the first place.
Ever heard of a tow truck?
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Can anyone see the problem in a theft system that activates the moment you plant your butt on the seat? Hint: You have to be inside the car to trigger it.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
8 wires
That's all you need to run a fucking car.
Everything else which has been added over the years is from the problem, reaction, solution wash cycle
Now with no Constitution, we are entering the era of police state.
Will you stupid motherfuckers wake up, or will you use more credit to buy a car you can't afford, to take profiles of your ass?
Throw these SCUM out. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/
First!
Use of a tow-truck to steal vehicles is not that commonly employed. Mostly owing to the amount of time that it takes to properly hook up a vehicle to a tow truck, the likelihood of discovery is exponentially higher. Although the action might appear innocuous to quite a few people, there is a huge risk of being questioned or even photographed, and a thief risks having to deal with both situations. Cars on private property can only be legitimately be towed with consent of the owner of the vehicle, or else by consent of the owner of the property, and proof of such authorization might be requested by someone who sees a car being hooked up. This is problematic for thieves who might want to employ such a technique... they are taking a 15 minute gamble that nobody who works there or sees them will care what they are doing. Finally, to discourage property owners from profiting from thefts on their own property, if a host of thefts from one particular place occur in too short a time, the owner of that place is probably going to be facing something just short of an inquisition to confirm that he or she is not somehow party to the thefts. In fact, I actually know one store owner who once was questioned about an unusual number of car thefts (not towed... just ordinary thefts) on his property, and he ended up having to invest in security cameras, which I had heard actually immediately made a differences in the number of car thefts happening there.
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Or even better. Have a rod rammed up your colon to scan it. If it's the right colon to start the car, do so and get all the biogas to power the car from the same source.
. . . a practical use for that 3 Tb drive I've been hearing so much about.
I was under the impression that "amateur" thefts of cars are way down due to current anti-theft measures.
This doesnt do anything for the "pro" approach to stealing cars, which typically involves a flatbed.
Better off getting Lojack or similar me thinks.
360 pressure sensors give us one solid computer verifiable data point; weight. Something like the shape or size of a soft body does not produce verifiable data points. You can categorize and estimate the data, but no matter what you do this system will never approach the 99%+ accuracy needed for identification, there is just not enough data.
Fingerprint recognition works by creating an image of the print.
This isn't true. It wouldn't work that way. Fingerprint recognition works by building a set of verifiable data points. These points can be verified over and over using scientific methods. This gives us an objective system to match any finger with it's prints. You know those scenes in movies where a cop searches a fingerprint database and images flash by?...doesn't happen. The searchable part of the fingerprint databases only includes the data points.
They use a protocol named ARP, short for Ass Recognition Protocol.
I don't think that this will be a great invention. When more and more things around us get an interface we don't see, we will be stressed alone by the fact that there may be something somewhere which controls our identity, our behaviour, our mood, our tiredness, what else.
At least I'd rather have my car stolen because it has no such system installed than knowing my identity will be checked everytime I enter the car. And if I'd have a car worth enough, then there will be someone who finds a way to steal it anyway.
Other thing: security includes the person and if there is too much of it around, the items may be save but their owner is not.
cb
Engine kill anti theft devices based on keys with chips on them have been in place for years. Cars equipped with them at the factory still show up in the Top Stolen Car lists. It's a nice idea, but certainly not fail-proof and devices like aftermarket alarms bypass the anti-theft systems before the thief even arrives.
Yeah, but how instead of wearing gloves, we have to be wary of every chair we sit in that might be rigged to steal our butt identity.
"Honey, does this security system make my ass look fat?"
360 pressure sensors give us one solid computer verifiable data point; weight.
No, you get 360 pressure measurements. That's more than one. You really ought to re-read what I said about uneven weight distribution. Imagine for a moment that we set a bowl full of water onto an array of pressure sensors: the bottom of the bowl exerts the most pressure. Given enough sensors it's possible to ascertain the shape of an object placed upon them.
If we used ultrasonic sensors instead of pressure ones to read the density of what's above them - like some fingerprint scanners - the end result would be the same: an image of the thing you're scanning, with a data point for every sensor/pixel.
Fingerprint recognition works by creating an image of the print.
This isn't true. It wouldn't work that way. Fingerprint recognition works by building a set of verifiable data points.
Any fingerprint reader captures an image first, this image is then converted to a series of points for matching against a database. Whether or not a matching system displays the source image of each print while it examines the hash (for want of a better word) is irrelevant. There's no reason it couldn't but obviously it does this only in the movies for exposition or artistic license.
Tell me, if a person's weight was all this system looked at would they really be using hundreds of sensors?
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
With an ass you have weight, shape, position and behavior, but it's only possible to get a few limited data points out of each.
It's measuring 360 distributed pressure points.
A good fingerprint reader can achieve 99% accuracy.
Unless you cut your finger. I've had my laptop biometric sensor lock me out since I do construction and occasionally tear up my fingerprints. I have yet to cut up my ass though.
Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
Use of a tow-truck to steal vehicles is not that commonly employed. Mostly owing to the amount of time that it takes to properly hook up a vehicle to a tow truck, the likelihood of discovery is exponentially higher. Although the action might appear innocuous to quite a few people, there is a huge risk of being questioned or even photographed, and a thief risks having to deal with both situations. Cars on private property can only be legitimately be towed with consent of the owner of the vehicle, or else by consent of the owner of the property, and proof of such authorization might be requested by someone who sees a car being hooked up. This is problematic for thieves who might want to employ such a technique... they are taking a 15 minute gamble that nobody who works there or sees them will care what they are doing. Finally, to discourage property owners from profiting from thefts on their own property, if a host of thefts from one particular place occur in too short a time, the owner of that place is probably going to be facing something just short of an inquisition to confirm that he or she is not somehow party to the thefts. In fact, I actually know one store owner who once was questioned about an unusual number of car thefts (not towed... just ordinary thefts) on his property, and he ended up having to invest in security cameras, which I had heard actually immediately made a differences in the number of car thefts happening there.
So you have heard of a tow truck.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Why would I care about this, or any other theft-prevention devices for a car (like a car alarm)? I have insurance. Everybody has insurance. If somebody wants or needs to steal my car, it's really not that big of a deal. Insurance will pay me, and I'll get another.
I don't respond to AC's.
How do you drive away with a car equipped with an engine-kill system unless you have stolen the keys as well?
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2% failure per use. Average two starts per trip, average one trip per day. One failure every 25 days. About 290 failures over a 20yr period. Say the average person who buys a car with this system would otherwise have one car stolen from them every 20 years, now with a 98% chance the car thief will be detected.
That gives you 0.98 successes for every 290 failures. Or a greater than 99.5% false positive rate.
(And that assumes the system can't be quickly bypassed by by a competent thief. Which would reduce the immobil-ass-er's success rate by whatever proportion of car thieves know the work-around. Say it's 50%, that doubles the false positive rate to around 99.8%.)
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
Unless you cut your finger. I've had my laptop biometric sensor lock me out since I do construction and occasionally tear up my fingerprints. I have yet to cut up my ass though.
Just wait till you do a half-ass job at the construction site and your boss tear you a new one.
Pressure sensors come in different number of bits, I see everything from 9 to 24 bits with a user-configurable one that can be set to 9, 10, 11, up to 16. They don't have to be in multiples of 8.
After the holidays, lots of people won't be able to start their cars.
The only thing I want to know is how far away the lethal response anti car theft devices are.
No, you get 360 pressure measurements. That's more than one.
Ok then, what's another data point besides weight? Look, researcher are still struggling to develop accurate facial recognition systems with megapixel images. If you have some way to pull even a handful of computer verifiable data points, literally, out of someones ass you are going to be a very rich person. Either than or you don't have a very good concept of what computers are capable of.
I thought it had my spouses hand prints.
What I see is a problem with this technology. In summer, when we wear no heavy coats, or shiver while the car warms up, the readings would have to be calibrated to my body with coat covering my lower body to my knees. In summer, it would register me as a different person.
Not a great product, unless it was used to adjust mirrors, car seat, radio stations, etc.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
This will sure make changing your password every 60 days a real pain in the ass.
large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate.
Also anus wrinkles are as reliable as fingerprints, if not even more so when you cover some butt-area as well and include all the molds and such.