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Microsoft To Offer Flight For Free This Spring

hypnosec writes "Microsoft's Flight Simulator series, which was in dormant state until now, will see a re-launch this spring and that too for free. The name of this series will be simply Flight, and players will have free access to the digital sky with this simulator. In other words, it will be available as a free download; however, the user would need to buy additional content to enhance their experience. The content that can be purchased includes aircraft as well as new environments. Microsoft states that the most amazing part of this game is the user can experience some real life locations like Big Island of Hawaii along with 'region-specific weather patterns, foliage, terrain and landmarks.'" [Video demo here.] I'd like to know where the ESRB finds "crude humor" or "mild violence" in there.

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  1. I got my beta invite yesterday by DCTech · · Score: 5, Informative

    And I have to say I'm really impressed with the game. The free model seems great too, especially considering that there has always been a huge market place towards Flight Simulator aircrafts, scenery etc. Maybe they will work out some deals with third party developers too. But as I'm under NDA I wont say too much, but you can sign up for beta here. I suggest you do!

    1. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The free model seems great too

      Nope, there's an article just a few down saying that this model is broken, and since it was on Slashdot it must be true!

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    2. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by DCTech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about if you stopped following my posts and actually contributed to the discussion like I do? I have no idea why someone would upmod your off-topic post and down-mod my on-topic opinion, but oh well.

    3. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh look, another fucktard claiming "Shill! Shill!" against an informative post, just because they don't like MS! How unusual...

    4. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by g0bshiTe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually MS has always had some of the best flight sims out there. I've been a fan of MS flight sims since the days when Combat Flight Simulator and the MSN Gaming Zone reigned supreme. The bad thing is my current computer just can't handle flight since X was released.

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    5. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Usually I just look at the post history of somebody to see if they have some sort of bias.
      You might not want to do that in this case.

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    6. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by capnkr · · Score: 2

      If, as stated @ 0:58 in the video, they have that "serene cityscape" of Honolulu "on the Big Island" - yep, it's broken... :)

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    7. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Am I free then to point out thousands of accounts that seem to be shills for Linux, Gnu, RMS etc etc?

    8. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No... that was a contribution. It was on topic and relevent, contained information someone interested in this flight simulator might find interesting (a link to the beta signup) and an opinion about the quality of the game. The only problem you have with this post is that it is positive toward a company you don't like.

      You are the one getting argumentative, you are the one derailing the conversation, you are the one who is adding exactly 0 value to this discussion, and your stance boils down to an ad hominem attack. You look absolutely petty. So even if this person is being paid to say what he's saying, what you're doing is much much worse.

    9. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      NO they haven't. They've had some of the best looking visuals but their simulation part has always been - wanting. X-Plane has historically been the opposite. Meaning, X-Plane has historically lacked in visuals but offered superb simulation. Since X-Plane 9, it has generally met or beat MS in both visuals and simulation. About the only thing MS' offering beat X-Plane at has been some advanced avionics, such as Garmin 430 and 530, so on and so on.

      In a nut shell, if you really want a simulation, MS has never been much. If you want pretty visuals, MS has always been worth looking at. If you want both, these days, X-Plane is the only game in town.

      And in case you're wondering, when professionals want a low cost flight sim for real aircraft research and development, they reach for X-Plane too. MS' offering is never even considered simply because the flight models are laughable. X-Plane even has an FAA certified variant.

    10. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

      Amazingly enough, people already do this, albeit not with Microsoft Flight Simulator. X-Plane pilots join up with virtual air traffic controllers to efficiently run the airspace in their virtual world. X-Plane is a pretty hardcore package though that appeals to a different set of people than Microsoft Flight Simulator.

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    11. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by cvtan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mahalo for pointing out that Honolulu is not on the Big Island. Fun place to visit, but it's hardly serene".

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    12. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      How can you shill for Gnu or RMS, doesnt shilling mean you get money for it?

      Just saying...

    13. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Applekid · · Score: 2

      Except you don't contribute. You shill. Then when you are found out, you create a new account and return to shill.

      How is it a shill when it's a post with a link to a game that's discussed in TFS?

      Maybe if the story was "The Death of Flight Simulators" and the frist post was "Oh, hay, no it isn't dead, check out this link", but I think your shill detection sensors are dialed in a little too sensitive.

      I personally stopped playing flight sims in the early 90s and just seemed to forget they exist at all. I might actually try it out if it's free and the paid bonuses aren't obnoxiously staring me in the face every 2 minutes like other "free" games.

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    14. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fight isn't Flight Simulator per-se. MS sold the Flight Simulator franchise to Lockheed Martin, Flight is a re-design from the ground up.

      http://www.flyingmag.com/blogs/fly-wire/goodbye-flight-simulator-hello-microsoft-flight

    15. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      IE saved the web? Really? Wow ...

      Sure, by stagnating and spurring innovation in other browsers. Sing along: Here it comes to save the day...

      You ever heard of XMLHttpRequest?

      It was invented by Microsoft.

      Sorry but Microsoft has a lot of great engineers working on their projects as well, including IE.

    16. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by h5inz · · Score: 2

      There is a general guideline to not to respond to AC trolls but I believe that I have to defend what in my opinion is the spirit of Slashdot. So what if he likes a product published by Microsoft?
      1. It is his opinion.
      2. There are also good products published by Microsoft. Their work is often quite impressive - Look at white papers coming out from Microsoft Research.
      3. Even if he worked for Microsoft, then maybe he could sometimes afford to little bit promote the products associated with him. People working at NASA post about their projects sometimes. This is Slashdot, shouldn't be news to you that most of the people here work for technology companies.

    17. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by ah.clem · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is quite common; I have been doing it for many years on VATSIM (ATC Simulator) and flying with a virtual airline (DCA). It is a lot of fun if you are really into simulation (not games). For radio comms, Teamspeak is one of the popular voice systems. Realtime weather is also available once you log into the VATSIM servers. You do have to know your stuff, but the VATSIM folks are really pretty helpful and don't mind if you keep your plane parked for a few hours and just listen to the chatter to get an idea how to communicate properly. All of this is free to use but you have to fly responsibly or get bounced. I have never had a problem with griefers on VATSIM, probably because of the time commitment it takes to do a realistic simulation. We fly DC-3 aircraft; it is pretty amazing to do WW II re-enactments of major air ops and be in the middle of a dozen or so other C-47s while dodging flak on the way to drop zones. We have some actual pilots in the group, some retired, and some that can't make the medical. Yeah, it's incredibly geeky, but it's also a lot of fun. And it's all free; we all put time into creating historic flights/designing the environment we fly into/over and try to make it as historically accurate as possible.

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    18. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by nschubach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been somewhat passively following this ordeal for about a month (maybe longer) now. Personally, I think if someone is constantly changing account names and trying to game the system, it's a clear violation of the "spirit of Slashdot" to begin with... so you are arguing with an AC who pointed this out. (Articulate are not.)

      Main Points:
      First post is well known to be the premium spot. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they get the most views.
      He/they regularly changes accounts because they want to keep good karma so people read the posts. (I can't seem to find the post where they stated it, mainly because I don't remember which account it was posted under and I didn't keep the link. [didn't find it that important until now...])
      They get first post on Google/Android stories and Microsoft stories. Always with the same bias. (Usually "selling" something great about Microsoft either way...)

      Side Points:
      There are companies called "Reputation management" companies that specifically try to game online systems to try to steer opinion.
      Slashdot's Karma system is not flawless and can be exploited (Hell, everyone knows about sock puppets.)
      I personally don't like to be played.
      I can't help but watch this train wreck.

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    19. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by the_bard17 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The flight models in X-Plane have been better due to Laminar Research's approach; MSFS has traditionally used look-up tables for aircraft modelling, whereas X-Plane uses finite element analysis. Even with FEA, though, Garbage In Garbage Out applies.

      Furthermore, XP is packaged with a variety of tools to create and manage aircraft models. Blender and GIMP can be used to enhance their visual modelling. There's a "free as in beer" world editor. Put it all together and the FS community can put together content for X-Plane.

      There's a lot of controversy being generated over at the AVSIM forums right now, due to rumors stating that there will limited opportunity for third parties to create (and distribute, free or otherwise) content for MS Flight. It's my belief that community support is what makes a flight simulator really shine. If MS has killed or maimed that community support for Flight, I'm not sure it'll go anywhere.

    20. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by bennomatic · · Score: 2

      Are you defending MS shills? SHILL!

      (could I be any more shrill?)

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    21. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by the_bard17 · · Score: 2

      Check out VATSIM sometime. It's already an "MMO" of virtual pilots flying together, along with virtual Air Traffic Controllers. VATSIM takes it seriously, too, trying to be as professional as can be (pilots and ATC).

    22. Re:I got my beta invite yesterday by the_bard17 · · Score: 4, Informative

      FSX has plug-ins for VATSIM and IVAO, just like X-Plane. Furthermore, FSX and X-Plane pilots can see and interact with each other via the virtual environment, so it could be considered platform independent. Runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux, so it's *that* platform independent, too.

  2. * Planes and runways not included by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    the user would need to buy additional content to enhance their experience. The content that can be purchased includes aircraft as well as new environments

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    1. Re:* Planes and runways not included by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft Flight without any add-ons would be better known as Microsoft Walk.

  3. I prefer the old model... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3

    ...where you bought the game and then picked up community-created addons for free.

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    1. Re:I prefer the old model... by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those community-created addons weren't free. They cost a large amount of money, but people still loved them.

      That's odd. My FS2004 installation is 36GB and I only ever paid for one aircraft add-on... the rest of those gigabytes were all free addons.

    2. Re:I prefer the old model... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MS is clearly trying to turn MSFS into a walled garden they can milk. This is the structure of a "freemium" MMO they're emulating.

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    3. Re:I prefer the old model... by Ogive17 · · Score: 2

      My boss still flies 4-5 nights a week. He says that while there are plenty of free content out there, the most realistic planes cost a small fee.

      Basically you get what you pay for...

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    4. Re:I prefer the old model... by million_monkeys · · Score: 2

      Hopefully they'll do both. The other big flight sim program, X-Plane, has both community created free addons and commercial addons at additional cost from third parties. There's a big community around that and it adds a lot to the program. As people might expect, the stuff you pay for is usually better quality, althrough there is some really great free stuff out there.

      It'd be nice if Microsoft encourages others to make content and provides tools to help with that. But I'm not sure that's part of their business model for this release.

    5. Re:I prefer the old model... by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Wow, I downloaded a shitload of addons (all free) but didn't get my MSFS2k install anywwhere near 10GB 8-(

      If I remember correctly, that 36GB includes high-res terrain data for the whole planet, and most of the scheduled airline flights.

    6. Re:I prefer the old model... by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wouldn't mind so much for something like this. There are only a few simulated aircraft I'd like to fly, so if I could get those for cheap then I say no problem - I'll pay the few $$$. Better to let it be focused on the stuff that I actually want to do rather than pay a huge lump sum to get a bunch of stuff I have no interest in.

      Basically, the main plane I want is the Piper J3 Cub. Older stuff like a the Taylorcrafts, Luscombes, Aeronca Champ, etc, would all be nice too. Basically the stuff I'd actually want to fly in real life (which I currently can't - I have my PP-ASEL but can't get my medical renewed due to some issues - simulation is a good substitute).

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    7. Re:I prefer the old model... by Phaedrus420 · · Score: 2

      Flightgear has the Cub. The sim is free. The plane is free. The terrain is free, and based on the real world. I don't know which of those other planes are included, but I will say that the Wright Flyer is a bit of a challenge.

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  4. Huh? by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft states that the most amazing part of this game is the user can experience some real life locations like Big Island of Hawaii along with 'region-specific weather patterns, foliage, terrain and landmarks.'

    You mean just like Microsoft Flight Simulator?

  5. Why isn't this on XBox360? by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only games I play are on XBox360. I might be interested in that game/simulation. If I needed to buy some fancy control devices, so be it. But having my nice big TV and all it would make the flight simulation pretty nice. And doing the the Live networking would be kinda fun too where you could join groups of flyers and such... interacting with them and all.

    Not long ago, I saw my brother doing the flight sim thing on his PC. It was impressive enough, but not impressive enough for me to want to buy and set up a Windows PC... game system? Okay. But my stuff is Linux. I'm comfortable there... got some Apple stuff collecting dust but otherwise all Linux. A free game isn't enough to pull me back to Windows at home.

    1. Re:Why isn't this on XBox360? by demonbug · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only games I play are on XBox360. I might be interested in that game/simulation. If I needed to buy some fancy control devices, so be it. But having my nice big TV and all it would make the flight simulation pretty nice. And doing the the Live networking would be kinda fun too where you could join groups of flyers and such... interacting with them and all.

      Not long ago, I saw my brother doing the flight sim thing on his PC. It was impressive enough, but not impressive enough for me to want to buy and set up a Windows PC... game system? Okay. But my stuff is Linux. I'm comfortable there... got some Apple stuff collecting dust but otherwise all Linux. A free game isn't enough to pull me back to Windows at home.

      It is a flight simulator. Doesn't exactly match up with the gameplay demographic of consoles, though it does sound like there will be some arcadey options. Oh, and there is the fact that high-quality simulators are often CPU-bound, so they would have to make serious compromises to make it playable on a console. Not that this has stopped any other game companies from designing down to that level, and it is too early to really have an idea of how advanced the simulator element is, but that could be a real problem.

      Personally I like the idea of a flight sim, but so far the ones I've tried have all been pretty boring. While one can theoretically use them for actual flight training (if you get the extra-special dongle that doesn't do anything but cost you an enormous amount), to me the fun part is doing stupid shit that would get you killed in real life. PC sims like Flight Gear and X-Plane do a decent enough job of simulating routine flight dynamics, but as soon as you start doing anything remotely stupid (or fun) they just fall apart. And they don't even have the decency to show pieces of your plane flying apart when you hit things :( I'll probably give MS Flight a try, since it is free, but I'll likely stick with Il-2 for my flight sim cravings; the flight model might not have quite the same fidelity, but it rewards stupidity with bits and pieces flying off - and then there's the fact that you can blow shit up when you're tired of just flying.

    2. Re:Why isn't this on XBox360? by JAlexoi · · Score: 2

      Not only that, I doubt that XBox360 can handle the FlightSim X

  6. If I had to make a guess... by idbeholda · · Score: 2

    I would say the "Crude Humor" and "Mild Violence" come from the "Enhanced Experience" which probably involves making a pass/grope at the stewardess and spanking unruly passengers back in coach.

  7. Sounds too much like Zynga's business model by CuriousGeorge113 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds like they are taking a page right out of Zynga's playbook. Offer a game for free, get a user addicted, and then convince that user to spend money on "improve their game experience." I know a few people that have spent quite a bit of money on farmville, mafia wars, etc. with in-app purchases. Way more than anyone would spend to download a full version of a game.

    I'd rather pay up front for something and have a complete product (or at least, know how much of that product I'm getting). I'm real aversive to Zynga's model, because there is no way, up front, to know how much you are going to spend to get a good experience playing the game. You just have to keep buying more and more credits as time goes on.

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    1. Re:Sounds too much like Zynga's business model by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      Depends on the game really. Are you looking for a complete start to finish gameplay experience, or an ever expanding realm in which you can pick and choose what to purchase as needed?

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  8. Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 by RogueyWon · · Score: 2

    They don't exactly give away Railworks, either. It does sometimes get discounted in Steam sales, and if you bought the original, then you got free upgrades to 2 and 3. You do actually have to buy the base game at some point, though.

    I suspect this is a special case, driven by the... erm... particular nature of the enthusiast community in question.

    More than anything else, it reminds me of the Idolm@ster games (huge in Japan, unreleased in the West), where the home console versions not only require the purchase of a full-priced game, but also have masses and masses of very, very expensive DLC. And yet there is a community out there that keeps lapping it up - even back when the home console versions were 360-exclusive.

    As an aside, I did import a copy of the PS3 version of IM@S2, just to see what all the fuss was about. It's cute, well presented and the minigames are fun, but the idea of spending a single penny on DLC for it just seems ludicrous.

  9. Crude Humor and Mild Violence by abe+ferlman · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's probably the inflatable auto-pilot and the nun with the baseball bat.

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    1. Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence by borgasm · · Score: 4, Funny

      nah, the crude humor is that all the flights in the game are on-time, and you get a meal + beverage for free

    2. Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course I'm serious. And stop calling me Shirley.

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  10. Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've often wondered though. . . yeah, you can make money that way, but for every person who spends hundreds or thousands of dollars on DLC, I bet you have hundreds or thousands of players who never buy anything?

    That kind of logic is what's causing problems for the movie and music industries. It doesn't matter how many people are not paying for your product, it matters how many people are. Your job, as a capitalist business, is to maximise the product of the number of people who are paying by the amount that they are paying. The movie industry has spent a huge amount on marketing campaigns to try to get people to stop pirating their products, forgetting that their goal should have been to make people start paying for them.

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  11. compares to flight gear? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

    I wonder how this new version will compare to FlightGear ?

    http://www.flightgear.org/

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    1. Re:compares to flight gear? by yourlord · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't compare to FlightGear. FG is built with a focus on simulating the physics of flight.. It's seen some really nice improvements in the eye candy department as of late as well.

      Plus, with FlightGear, it's free, as in freedom, and as in beer, as in "here's the source code and all the artwork!"..

      There isn't a market place to buy new locations because the ENTIRE PLANET is available for free in FG. Not to mention hundreds of planes, from gliders to cargo/passenger jets, WWI bi-planes to WWII fighters and bombers, to F-15's, etc.

      Local weather phenomenon, real-time real-world weather conditions from live METAR data on the internet, multiplayer support allowing you to fly with people all over the world, all free.

      All for free... Any other flightsim is pretty much DOA as far as I'm concerned.

  12. Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next up, movie add-ons! You get a copy of the script for free. $5 gets you a copy showing the characters against a greenscreen with no CGI. Another $10 will add in backgrounds. $10 each for household items, guns, explosions and nudity.

  13. I thought home flight sim was dead... by mark-t · · Score: 2

    ... since 2001, since it could supposedly possibly be used to train terrorists.

  14. Re:no put meigs field back in as the default airpo by anypundit · · Score: 4, Informative

    no put meigs field back in as the default airport

    You won't be able to take off with the giant X's carved into the runway.

  15. Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 by delinear · · Score: 2

    I remember support. It's what we used to have back in the days before public betas of supposedly finished products, where users get to find the bugs and report them on a cheap internet forum.

  16. Re:Meh by chill · · Score: 2

    You mean like X-Plane Pro? It'll cost you $5,000+ in FAA Certified hardware, in addition to the software, to be able to use the simulator to log some actual hours.

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  17. Re:no put meigs field back in as the default airpo by Sporkinum · · Score: 3, Informative

    That was a sad day when the default was no longer Meigs. I think that was a throwback from Sublogic days when the developers were based in Champaign-Urbana.

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  18. For one, you can land at night with MSFS... by rwade · · Score: 2

    When Flightgear 2.0.0 was released, it was released with a new system that more-slickly rendered runway lights -- it used a so-called "point sprite approach." However, Flightgear's implementation of point sprites did not accommodate ATI's non-standard spec, so airports were 100%-dark for all those using ATI hardware. Who is at fault -- whether the Flightgear developers or ATI -- doesn't really matter to me. Why? It's fairly rare for other software vendors to ignore a quirk in a very popular piece of hardware -- ie. the runway lights have worked just fine in every MSFS version I have played.

    And this went on for months with no word of a fix or a patch from Flightgear. In fact, I'm not sure that it's fixed even today.

  19. Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 by jimicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'd never do that - people would too easily realise how empty most movies are without the eye candy of the explosions. Worst case scenario, people might actually start demanding well written stories that aren't full of holes.

    No, but they do do the reverse.

    You buy the DVD, you get the movie.

    Alternatively, you buy the "Directors Cut", you pay $3 more and get it with a couple of extra scenes which were left on the cutting room floor for a good reason and a director's commentary (which it turns out is fantastically boring and you can't bear to watch more than 5 minutes of).

    You could buy the "Special Edition" a couple of years later for $8 more. You get the Directors Cut version but the box is in a tin and includes a poster. The tin doesn't quite fit your bookcase and makes it look all untidy next to all the normal DVD cases; the poster you never take out and indeed you're surprised when a friend who's a real movie buff shows you it - you didn't even notice it in the tin.

    If you're patient and want something special, you buy the "10th Anniversary Special Edition" ten years after release for $10 more, you get the Directors' Cut, a "Making Of" documentary (where they cobbled together some footage from the original green-screen shots; occasionally these are interesting but as often as not you find the guys who make the movies are excellent behind the camera but terrible in front of it) and version with a different ending. Why was the ending different? Turned out that the original idea that looked great on paper really didn't work when it was filmed and edited, so they had to write another ending. You watch the original ending once, then never again.

  20. Let me know... by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 2

    ...when I can look out the cessna's window and see my actual house when I fly over my block.

    Seriously, for all it's technical accuracy, the scenery in MSFS is kind of dull and unrealistic. Sure I can fly around somewhat a somewhat real looking NYC (home) but 9 miles to the west, and my town looks like flat grassland. It gets old fast.

    I want to take off from Princeton Airport, head southwest and see Princeton. And then New Brunswick and Cranberry. Not random dirty green flatland.

    So yeah, I'll pay for another version of flight sim when (if ever) it will look something like really flying over the landscape. Houses, fields, etc.

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    1. Re:Let me know... by Plouf · · Score: 2

      This being said, I never appreciated FSX as much as since I got my PPL license. Sure I can't see my house, but I can actually practice and prepare VFR navigations using the default scenery since the stuff that really matters to the real pilots are is there. I also bought X-Plane to compare and it failed completely: it looks prettier but I almost got lost before leaving the CTR. So I can tell you, from a pilot's point of view, FSX really feels like flying over the landscape since I can use my low-altitude map in the game (and this is my Belgian countryside, not some fancy touristic places).

  21. Better deals by gr8_phk · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you really like flight sims, X-plane is the way to go. They have lots of free 3rd party content. If cheap is what you like, FlightGear is the way to go - open source with tons of add-ons, downloadable scenerey, but the graphics are not as pretty. Both have a linux (and mac?) version of course.

  22. MS Flight Simulator 1.0 Mac allowed me to crash by jsepeta · · Score: 2

    I could crash my plane horrifically into the Sears Tower using MS Flight Simulator 1.0 for Macintosh. My little turbo-prop airplane started out at Meigs Field. Mayor Daley was correct to close that airport, he just did it ham-handedly. Will Microsoft's downloadable content prevent wannabe terrorists from crashing planes into buildings? What if, as in my case, you just suck as a pilot? I never did learn how to land that thing reliably.

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