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Universities Agree To Email Monitoring For Copyright Agency

New submitter fish waffle writes "The universities of Western Ontario and Toronto have signed a deal with Access Copyright that allows for surveillance of faculty correspondence, defines e-mailing hyperlinks as equivalent to photocopying a document, and imposes an annual $27.50 fee for every full-time equivalent student to pay for it all. Access Copyright is a licensing agency historically used by most universities in Canada to give them blanket permission to reproduce copyrighted works, largely to address photocopying concerns that may extend beyond basic fair-use. Since the expiration of this agreement, and with recognition that many academic uses do not require copyright permissions or payments or are already covered under vendor-specific agreements, Canadian academic institutions have been united in opposing continuation of the agreement with the agency. Access Copyright has countered with a proposal for increased fees, and expansion of the definition of copyright to include linking and the need for online surveillance. In a strange breaking of ranks, the University of Western Ontario and the University of Toronto have capitulated and signed agreements that basically accede to the licensing agency's demands. The Canadian Association of University Teachers bulletin provides detailed background on the issue (PDF)."

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  1. Change Universities by twotailakitsune · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that others are NOT doing this means that people in Canadian Universities can change to a different University. Lucky people.

    1. Re:Change Universities by phrostie · · Score: 4, Funny

      eh

    2. Re:Change Universities by ae1294 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      0.3% feels substantial to you? You aren't going to switch schools over another $30. You might switch on the principle, but not for economic reasons. Just driving out to the university, getting lunch, and spending your time looking at the program costs more than $30.

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    3. Re:Change Universities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Back in the 80s I paid $600 a term ($1200 a year) for comp sci at Waterloo, and with paid work terms in between it practically came out to be free... Every time I read slashdot I feel lucky that I'm old, sad isn't it.

    4. Re:Change Universities by niftydude · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, $27.50 is a drop in the bucket compared to tuition, and hence not likely to affect much of anything.

      You are focussing on the students. I think it is more likely that the faculty staff will start leaving. Email is insecure enough as it is, and the last thing most professors actively involved in research will want is a third party having access to any unpublished research that is sent to colleagues and co-authors via email.

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    5. Re:Change Universities by Tuoqui · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isnt about drops in the bucket this is about Copyright Lobby's war chest...

      73,685 Students (UofT) * $27.50 = $2,026,337.50 / per year

      That is being given to hostile entities that may just come by and sue anyways. Sorry but UofT and Western Ontario did their students a great disservice by selling them out to the copyright lobby. Honestly, if I was in either of these schools I'd be transferring and encouraging everyone else to transfer to.

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    6. Re:Change Universities by tsa · · Score: 3, Informative

      More and more people at our university use gmail these days because it's more reliable than the email service the university provides.

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  2. Is this some sort of joke? by tkrotchko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'd think the Universities would be the last to cave in to a blatant demand for protection money.

    Can they really be serious? Linking is equivalent to a copyright?

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    1. Re:Is this some sort of joke? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somebody high up in the university administrations got bribed, is my guess. I honestly can't think of any other reasonable explanation.

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  3. This [nonsense] would not fly in the US of A... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Access Copyright that allows for surveillance of faculty correspondence, defines e-mailing hyperlinks as equivalent to photocopying a document...

    How can emailing a hyper-link be equivalent to photocopying? When one photocopies, they then get a physical copy of a document. On the other hand, e-mailing a hyper-link provides no such physical object.

    Here's how to circumvent the insanity: Email actual documents and then argue that *no* hyper-links were emailed as required by the stipulation. How about that?

  4. Re:Poor Google? by ThePeices · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Poor Google? How about poor Canadian WWW, almost every website that's hosted in Canada has at least one hyperlink to an external site, the contents of which are copyrighted.

  5. Anti-scientific? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This practice sounds like complete the opposite of the principles of scientific research.

    1. Re:Anti-scientific? by hism · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The prevailing trend in Canada seems to be drifting way from scientific research: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16861468

      Each time I read a new article about my country, I become more and more ashamed to be Canadian...

    2. Re:Anti-scientific? by Amadablam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This practice sounds like complete the opposite of the principles of scientific research.

      Of course. Publishers aren't in this for the science.

    3. Re:Anti-scientific? by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 5, Funny

      See, people keep saying Canada is just another part of the USA, but you guys never believe us...

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  6. Re:Poor Google? by PIBM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I find interesting is that for 27.50$ per year per student, they have a blanket permission to reproduce any copyrighted work (should I understand the summary correctly) ... That's such a small fee vs what people have had to pay for limited copyright infringements..

  7. And in other news by Skapare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Use of encryption, and international email services on HTTPS, has started to rise in Canada.

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    1. Re:And in other news by Paracelcus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Encryption should be used routinely (just because)!

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  8. Re:More Sources by zill · · Score: 5, Informative

    The agreement reached last month with the licensing agency includes provisions defining e-mailing hyperlinks as equivalent to photocopying a document, an annual $27.50 fee for every full-time equivalent student and surveillance of academic staff email.

  9. Re:Poor Google? by Auroch · · Score: 3, Informative

    What I find interesting is that for 27.50$ per year per student, they have a blanket permission to reproduce any copyrighted work (should I understand the summary correctly) ... That's such a small fee vs what people have had to pay for limited copyright infringements..

    Not quite blanket. No music, and nothing that would reproduce the entire work, unless that work is short and/or monumental.

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  10. Re:Privacy law disagrees by Auroch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Except in Canada you have to give them the right to monitor email or internet traffic as you do have reasonable expectation of privacy.

    Simply have to refuse to sign any paperwork which gives them the right to monitor. If they do monitor and try to do anything then they are basically providing evidence that makes your lawsuit very easy.

    One of the universities I attended had some BS clause about allowing them to give access of my information and documents to third parties as they saw fit. I argued it up to the dean and was eventually told that if I wanted to continue in the program, I needed to sign the clause.

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  11. May violate collective agreements by sdavid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Monitoring faculty email in this way may well violate the U of T's collective agreement with their faculty. I'm at another Canadian university, and I'm pretty sure it would violate ours.

  12. Re:Privacy law disagrees by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're in Canada, you should have demanded your money back. They have no right to give your information away, or force you to sign it away like that. It's a violation of the privacy act. Hell, if you are canadian and are in Canada, and this happened I'd consider filing a complaint to the privacy commissioner over it anyway.

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  13. Re:Random Redirection NOW! by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually, that makes me think... If they're monitoring your emails, start appending links to three random charities in each email, and demand that those charities get their cut....

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  14. So Where's My Cut? by avgjoe62 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a blog that I write and own the copyright on. Will Access Copyright send me my cut if a student happens to send a link to my blog to a friend? And what if they send a link to their own blog? Will that student now be entitled to a partial refund of their 27.50 Canadian?

    Seems like this could be a revenue stream that bloggers may have to wake up to!!

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  15. Re:Poor Google? by msobkow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seeing as they contractually treat sending a link as making a photocopy, it would seem that you are now allowed to photocopy entire works under this new agreement.

    Not a bad perk for the price increase at all.

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  16. Students & Faculty Attack Agreement by ancarett · · Score: 5, Informative

    Via Ariel Katz, UofT Students and Faculty Demand Suspending the Access Copyright Agreement

    I'm on faculty at a different Canadian university. So far, we've cut no deal with Access Copyright yet and I hope we stay strong. You can bet that I'm asking our union to keep an eye on the situation as it relates to the privacy rights of students and faculty!

    Ironically, I benefit financially from Access Copyright, having registered as an author with them years ago when a colleague pointed out they were collecting money on my behalf, whether or not I made my claim against them. I'd much rather take a few hundred dollars out of their pockets to pass onto a copyfighting cause each year!

    If my university does cave to Access Copyright, I'll cease using my university email. It'll be annoying to switch away from an address I've used for twenty years, but better than seeming to acquiesce to further indignities. I suspect that we'll see more and more academics exploring that option if Toronto and Western are setting a trend.

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    1. Re:Students & Faculty Attack Agreement by dcollins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've worked at two universities and both, during my time there, have had IT departments evolve to demand that all communications be done by in-house email (i.e., "we cannot reply to personal email addresses for security reasons"). It seems (a) dumb, (b) not really a security benefit, (c) a violation of academic/speech freedom, and (d) unsustainable if anyone outside wants to communicate with us (i.e., break the whole structure of email itself).

      But it's the first thing I thought of with this "monitor faculty email" bit. Link that with "all correspondence must be by faculty email" and then you've got a real academic dystopia going.

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  17. Re:Poor Google? by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Funny

    Haha, you think this extends to textbooks.

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