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Should Microsoft Put Office On the iPad?

theodp writes "Microsoft is working on a touch-friendly version of Office for Windows 8, writes GeekWire's Todd Bishop. But what about Microsoft Office on the iPad? 'The decision,' Bishop says, 'will say a lot about Microsoft's priorities in this new era. The company can give Windows 8 a boost if it makes Office exclusive to Windows-based tablets. But that's also a risk. The iPad's momentum not only in the home but in the workplace opens the door for Office alternatives to take hold on the Apple tablet, posing a challenge to Microsoft Office.' Over at Minimal Mac, Patrick Rhone feels Microsoft has bigger problems than the lack of Office apps for iOS and Android. 'Like the curtain finally falling from the Wizard of Oz to find just a small, frail, man pretending to be far more powerful and relevant than he really was,' writes Rhone, 'Microsoft's biggest miss was allowing the world to finally see the truth behind the big lie — they were not needed to get real work done. Or anything done, really. And that will be what ultimately kills them.' Perhaps, but BusinessInsider — which finds it just can't quit Excel — also makes a case for why Microsoft should put Office on every platform. Speaking of the future of Office, did you ever notice how people use MS-Word to convince people to use Google Docs?"

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  1. Would *I* use it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No way. Typing on my iPad is one of the most awkward things I do in a day, but I don't blame the device. There are people in my same department at work that I have seen knock out multipage emails on one as if sitting at a regular computer.

    I dunno, I just can't do it so Office would be worthless. My iPad is basically a youtube, game device, photoviewer, and mastubatory aid (porn).

    I guess I'm a retard

    1. Re:Would *I* use it? by Phrogman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Despite all the spite and screaming against Apple that will populate this thread, I thought I would point out that people are *still* judging the iPad as if it were a laptop.
      Its perfect for what it is: a tool that is great for certain uses, and not for others. I wouldn't do programming on one, its not suited to it - even if you use a keyboard - in my opinion but if I want to view images, watch TV off the net, use Netflix, its a perfect tool. Its well designed, performs well, seems fairly bug free, easy to use, quite portable, has good if not great battery life etc.
      All that said, my wife bought an iPad, and stopped using her netbook entirely at the same time. It is serving all her needs - including writing (using a keyboard mind you) quite well, and I have yet to hear a complaint.
      If I had a need for one, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one myself. I am however a desktop person. I hate laptops, netbooks etc. I might get an iPad at some point but I will most likely never buy a laptop or netbook.

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    2. Re:Would *I* use it? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And this is a silly point. I was going to buy a BT keyboard for my ipad on several occasions but every time I had it in my hands and walking to the register I put it back because the words in my head kept ringing..."If you need to type that much, just grab the laptop you always have with you anyways"

      I have never seen anyone that has an iPad and uses it for business, have only that iPad. they always have a laptop as well.

      I know a lot of people are attracted to the fiction of only having a thin light ipad with them all day long for all uses, but it's not reality. I simply reach down and flip open my 17" macbook and do serious creation work. it wakes up within 30 seconds and is ready to go.

      If the person is a very tiny weakling waif, they can get an ultrabook like an air or other type to have a light compliment that they can not get winded and pass out carrying around.

      Why try to make a tablet do everything? why not use it for what it was created for? a compliment to your PC.

      I just wish that a real version of Microsoft One Note would hit the ipad. you can't do handwritten notes on the ipad version. so my ipad stays in the case and the Fujitsu tablet comes out in meetings.

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    3. Re:Would *I* use it? by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a media consumption/review device. Office readers would be great. Office is such a pig for resources otherwise, that compositional tools would be plainly insane to port to iOS.

      The question itself if a fishing attempt to find feature interest. Office is coming to Windows 8 in one form or another, so do they bother to port it to iOS? Same chipset (ARM) same form factor (tablet) same profile of consumer (please, no sandals vs loafers arguments).

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    4. Re:Would *I* use it? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And this is a silly point. I was going to buy a BT keyboard for my ipad on several occasions but every time I had it in my hands and walking to the register I put it back because the words in my head kept ringing..."If you need to type that much, just grab the laptop you always have with you anyways"

      This is very true - for those that have laptops. As tablets become more powerful and more popular, individuals and companies will have choices to make: laptop, netbook and/or tablet? It probably won't be one of each (and may only be one if budgets continue to shrink). Some Android tablets already offer video out options, and it's not farfetched to see a tablet replacing a netbook or laptop when hooked to a docking station for some users.

      It's not all about the right now. In 2, 3 or maybe 5 years, things will be very different (just look back a few years and see how far tablets and smartphones have come). I don't subscribe to the 'everything on the cloud' philosophy, but the 'cloud' isn't going away and many companies are embracing it for file & data storage. The cloud is a solution to some of the problems created by portable devices. Microsoft needs to find its place in all of this, and better pick soon because in a few years it won't be as easy to get traction, marketshare or mindshare.

  2. I'm not sure I see the need by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess I can see the attraction of running powerpoint presentations from the iPad, but Office in general, is there a point?

    I can't imagine you'd want to be doing a lot of text input on it, would you?

    This in mind, it seems to me the whole thing is a non-story. MS is now an also-ran in the phone biz, and has no footprint at all in the tablet market. Office or no office, it doesn't seem to matter.

    1. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Informative

      Keynote runs Powerpoint presentations.

      (Also edits and exports them if it comes to that.)

      $9.99

    2. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by Aethelred+Unread · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My company uses Citrix to virtualize everything. I have had office, outlook, remote desktop on my ipad via Citrix for over a year and it is great for meetings, presentations, doing inventory, and just using an excel spreadsheet as a checklist. I can log on to my machine at work anywhere over 3G and have instant access to all my internal resources over a secure connection. Text input? Are you kidding? Combine Citrix Reciever with a ZAGG keyboard, jailbreak it, and you have an extremely effective machine for basic document editing and creation, a very powerful terminal emulator for network admin (my job) and access to all those lovely legacy tools like the fax modem connected to my PC via a serial cable so I can administer the Nortel PBX. Best thing is, all the processing is done on the server at work and if you lose the connection everything is where you left it when you reconnect. All this discussion about iPads having a place in enterprise is retarded, (literally, slow minded) the tools are already out there only Apple didn't develop them in house.

    3. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have the Citrix receiver as well. I'd rather kick myself in the nuts than do anything other than novelty stuff or very very basic work related administration through it on a tablet. Basic things are possible but not worth the 5-10x increase in time and effort. If I'm out and about and get a call to fix something that requires me to "log into work", I'll try to call another engineer myself or I'll respond back to the support desk that I'll get back to them in XX minutes and either drive home if close by or go to my car, grab my laptop and find the nearest free AP. Yes, I still consider those much better options then using the Citrix receiver on my tablet.

    4. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Remember the old adage: no one ever got fired for buying IBM? In the current corporate culture it's pretty much the same for buying Microsoft.

      Yes, but I'm not sure that applies where tablets are concerned. It doesn't seem to help them in the corporate phone market.

      Except that 'Metro' isn't just Windows 8, it is the future UI paradigm for Windows/Microsoft. IE 10 will have two versions, Metro and 'traditional'. I don't think MS is going to continue to create two versions in the future. Windows 9 will take things one steep further - probably a compatibility mode or VM for traditional applications - or perhaps eliminate traditional 'windowed' apps all together. Windows 8 is a transitional product release for Microsoft.

      In which case I see a lot of people moving on from windows, especially in the enterprise, or doing as they did with Vista and just not bothering to move.

    5. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The biggest feature lacking on the iPad for remote desktop goodness is Apple's lack of support for bluetooth mice.

      A bluetooth keyboard helps for keyboard intensive tasks, but even with GUIs that are very keyboard friendly the combination of BT + Wifi + RDP lag makes rapid tabbing or GUI widget manipulation frustrating on the iPad. Even at best, I find that a BT keyboard only adds about 25% additional ease of function on the iPad.

      With a mouse, though, it would be a pretty appealing platform for RDP work, particularly if the iPad 3 display resolution rumors are correct.

    6. Re:I'm not sure I see the need by fast+turtle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I suspect that the EOL in 2014 of XP is the only reason that many companies are even bothering to look at Win7 and as they upgrade, they'll stick with Win7 until EOL in 2020 when Win12 will finally be out and then they'll move to something Nix like that looks/acts like XP instead.

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  3. Re:woo! by andreicristianpetcu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft should put Office on "The LINUX"!

  4. Auto Correct by thammoud · · Score: 4, Funny

    Witch one will ween?

  5. Re:Ah, Excel by SomePgmr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use excel for stuff all the time. Little jobs... quick, repetative, formulaic stuff. That and popping open csv's.

    The one I often saw abused was access. Horrible things happen when a shitty Access side-project ends up getting passed around an office.

  6. Microsoft already is by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember reading about this a few months ago. The article is here.

    Basically it is a very dumbed down version designed just to read office files on the go similiar to the pocket Office versions for WindowsCE of the past. They do not want adoption of IOS, but the pocket versions do encourage Windows and Office on desktop computer and kills smaller companies or Apple from getting a foothold in the market which would then threaten Windows.

    MS has to be careful and walk a very fine line here. This would negate the reason to buy a Windows smart phone as the only reason people bothered with WindowsCE organizors over palm was the ability to read work documents. Now this gives a great reason for these executives and directors to buy an Iphone. Great now I can work on them too!

    Office file formats are not going anyway. I got modded down here a few times saying I can't leave Office because I can not guarantee that my resume will look the same on someone elses computer running Office if I make it under LibraOffice. For that reason it will stay forever in business and MS Office is not going anyway as suppliers and customers will think you are incompentent if you send a document that looks funny on their computer.

    So if I worked at MS I would only release Office for Windows 8 and Windows mobile and not care what Google and Apple do as I would have the ball no matter what.

    1. Re:Microsoft already is by ddocjohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Office file formats are not going anyway. I got modded down here a few times saying I can't leave Office because I can not guarantee that my resume will look the same on someone elses computer running Office if I make it under LibraOffice. For that reason it will stay forever in business and MS Office is not going anyway as suppliers and customers will think you are incompentent if you send a document that looks funny on their computer.

      If you can't figure out how to make a pdf then maybe they're right.

  7. Re:You would use it... by Flytrap · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have the iWork apps on my iPad (and before that I relied on documents to go).

    I rarely create new documents on my iPad, but I do a lot of editing, proof reading, and finalisation of documents that I then share, send on, present, etc. I consider myself highly productive on my iPad - even though I still have a notebook at my desk on which I will knock together complex presentations or spreadsheets, before iCloud syncs them onto my iPad where I will continue working on them or present them from using key note or numbers. In a typical day I spend about an hour or two in front of my notebook at my desk; and the rest of the day is spent on my iPad in meetings, workshops, waiting rooms, aeroplanes, etc.

    I doubt that having Microsoft Office for the iPad will change the way I work, much. I suspect that there will be less fixing and tiding up of PowerPoint or Word documents that Keynote or Pages mangled during the conversion process. But I will still spend more than half my time on the iPad reading, editing, changing, commenting on spreadsheets, presentations and documents in collaboration with others and am unlikely to change the volume of material authored from scratch on the iPad itself just because I now have Office for the iPad.

  8. Re:Ah, Excel by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everything you list is a shortcoming of the specific interface that you are using, not of the database concept itself. The way I see it, the problem is that nobody bothered to write a UI for a database that makes it look easy and simple to edit like an Excel spreadsheet. If you agree with this view, then Excel is just another database with the absurd limitation of constraining you to fit everything into one big table (data, calculations, output formatting).

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  9. Re:Complete non-story by MisterSquid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are toys. They use them to surf the web in meetings, they play games on it, and so on. They use them to have fun and waste time, not to do work.

    Academics are those whose mission is to pursue knowledge for knowledge’s sake. I’m not surprised many professors are entranced by tablet devices (iPads) given my own experience with them.

    As a former academic who currently works in web development, I have an iPad and I wish wish WISH that I had had one when I had been a professor. I use a PDF reader (iAnnotate) that allows me to annotate PDFs, upload those PDFs to my desktop. From there I can (using custom PERL scripts) generate XML containing the content and metadata of those annotations, which XML objects I incorporate into an XML editor/viewer (Tinderbox) for editing, organizing, and HTML export. I bring the exported HTML into a CMS and publish that on the web. Between these pieces of software and hardware is ENORMOUS pedagogical potential

    I know this because I had such a system in place as a faculty and students who hated Blackboard regularly commented how useful and more efficient my online course materials were. This was pre-tablet device (read pre-iPad), so I had been using a desktop program (open source Skim) to make these annotations. iAnnotate is a much more direct translation of book-reading skills and had iPads existed prior to my leaving academia for the Silicon Valley, I would have been using one, too.

    tl;dr: I suspect that the "ooh shiny" professors have for tablet devices is actually the realization that touch devices are a paradigm shift from desktops, a paradigm with its own set of advantages and possibilities. Faculty buy into these things not because they are easily distracted but because they have a researcher’s curiosity for useful technologies.

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  10. Re:woo! by symbolset · · Score: 4, Funny

    You might get it on if you try a little less Wine.

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