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Ask Slashdot: Best Practices For Maintaining IT Policy In K-12 Public Education?

First time accepted submitter El Fantasmo writes "I work in public education, K-12, for a small, economically shaky, low performing school district. What are some good or effective tactics for getting budget controllers to stop bypassing the IT boss/department? We sometimes we end up with LOW end MS Win 7 Home laptops, that basically can't get on our network (internet only) or be managed. The purchaser refuses to return them for proper setups. Unfortunately, IT is currently under the 'asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction,' who has no useful understanding of maintaining and acquiring IT resources and lets others make poor IT purchasing decisions, by bypassing the IT department, and dips into IT funds when their pet project budgets run low. How can this be reversed when you get commands like 'make it work' and the budget is effectively $0?"

208 comments

  1. Use fear. by MrQuacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just make up some bullshit about how only machine brand XYZ will work for us. All the others can be hacked by predators to take pictures of the children. Use FUD to your advantage.

    1. Re:Use fear. by decipher_saint · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, literally, "Fear will keep the local systems in line"

      I fear for when your IT department becomes fully operational.

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    2. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, somewhat along those lines you could legitimately argue that the "windows 7 dust bowl edition" does not meet the organization's security standards (because it won't join a domain).

      Speaking of which, how can these low end winders laptops use school resources if they can't log into the company domain? You *are* using active directory, aren't you? Please tell me you aren't just leaving everything open.

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    3. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Fake a virus attack. Sometimes it's the only way to survive in this industry.

    4. Re:Use fear. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just make up some bullshit about how only machine brand XYZ will work for us. All the others can be hacked by predators to take pictures of the children. Use FUD to your advantage.

      You didn't "listen" to TFA - you would still have to make it work. Generally the laptops would work with a bit more memory, as I have a real bottleneck now with my work PCs having less memory than optimal. As time marches on Operating System and Software require more resources and the real killer is paging memory. A bit of push-back may be required - have IT issue (with support from upper management, no mean feat) a minimum plaftorm for purchases. When technology decisions bypass IT and then IT is saddled with maintaining it, it sets the stage for Failure. Ultimately the IT department has to make its wishes known and have full support or the battle will always be a losing one.

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    5. Re:Use fear. by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 1

      Domain security isn't always the answer - what it does appear to be is a series of IT people screaming "my kingdom, my kingdom!" especially with the move to student owned devices. Thankfully a lot of technicians are coming around on actually securing their shit rather than hiding it (my personal favourite: Poor home folder permissions because group policy says you can't connect directly to UNC paths or run scripts or open cmd.exe etc.). Missing simple features like transparent proxying over just lopping them off at the firewall is a sign of a technician who is going to be left behind very quickly - especially with the android/iOS revolutions that are streaming through schools at the moment.

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    6. Re:Use fear. by idontgno · · Score: 2

      Oh, c'mon. In the mind of a PHB, any kind of rational argument about capabilities and feasibility is refuted immediately by "I don't care how, just make it work." When a PHB says that, all laws of causality and physics and economics and common sense are instantly banished. The PHB has made the impossibility YOUR problem. If you can't do it, it's your fault.

      And to the previous commenter who said something about use fear of PEDOS or HACKERS or TERRORISTS to bend the PHB to your will... HAHAHAHAHA! Use that argument, and all you've done is that you've just admitting to KNOWING the risks and FAILING to stop them! Because the PHB said "GET IT DONE" and you didn't. You're now a pedo-facilitator or terrorist-supporter because YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING to STOP THEM.

      Read up on Cassandra some day. Don't be Cassandra.

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    7. Re:Use fear. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      All the others can be hacked by predators to take pictures of the children.

      Why would they care about that, when the government has no problem with school districts spying on students themselves?

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    8. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Dunno about where you went to school. My daughter (HS senior) can bring her own laptop and other electronic devices to school, but they are absolutely forbidden from connecting to the network.

      I think this is partly because of exactly what MrQuacker was talking about -- the possibility of sexting or other inappropriate materials getting on the school network from students. (Staff is a different matter.) The organization protects themselves from abuse by the legal system by forbidding all but school property to connect to the school network.

      One domain, and every resource accessible from that domain, would seem to solve the problem. It has the side-effect of not allowing cheapie home edition laptops to join the network, which gives IT leverage to get the equipment imaged properly.

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    9. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 0

      So, what I'd do in that case is:

      A) Set up a domain, and cut off all the Dust Bowl laptops from the school network, period. If they want access to resources, they must turn in their laptop to be re-imaged. Period. There, I just made it work.

      Or

      B) Quit. Because I don't want that stain on my resume.

      I don't see any other solution.

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    10. Re:Use fear. by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1

      Just make up some bullshit about how only machine brand XYZ will work for us. All the others can be hacked by predators to take pictures of the children. Use FUD to your advantage.

      For god's sake, don't forget sun-spots! The sun-spots will work with the predators and John Travolta to create landing pads for gay Martians...*

      * Apologies to whomever's sig I just ripped off.

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    11. Re:Use fear. by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 2

      Protecting the children is absolutely a necessary thing to be doing, and I can not agree more with the general sentiment. However I don't see that lack of network access is going to affect the children's ability to traffic in sexting or other similar acts, only cover the ass of staff when it happens on school grounds. They are still able to be prosecuted for negligence without the devices on the network, and I'm sure if we went and looked there would be at least one case where this happens. At least when you put the student owned devices (SOD) on the network they can be monitored. There is plenty of software and hardware available to listen and watch, you can enable client isolation on your AP's and log everything through a local jabber server as a just in case. This doesn't stop something like apple's AirDrop or even point-to-point wifi, so your AP's are set to nuke any rouge AP's around the place, and so on.

      There are a lot of SOD's moving into schools and corporations now, many of them are driven from the (probably incorrect) viewpoint of beancounters or upper management. Wrong or otherwise, we need to adapt or die - and if adapting means we have to change our field a bit and stop thinking of how many units are in the empire, instead thinking of how we monitor and control the devices that are out there then that is what needs to happen.

      And it's going to cut down on budget as well. A lot of people complain that they need that big a budget. That might have something to do with it.

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    12. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      > Protecting the children is absolutely a necessary thing to be doing, and I can not agree more with the general sentiment. However I don't see that lack of network access is going to affect the children's ability to traffic in sexting or other similar acts, only cover the ass of staff when it happens on school grounds.

      My understanding is that this is precisely the point. The rule is not to protect the students but to provide legal protection for the staff.

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    13. Re:Use fear. by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      I don't - the greatest antidote to war machines is a ragtag bunch of young misfits, and there's really no trouble finding those in K-12 schools.

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    14. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It sounds like he's working in a district infested with Republicans (at least as far as local school board and county/state representation are concerned).

      I've worked in 3 different school districts. Most of them started out with the basics. Get a few hard-core "why are my taxes so high" republicans onto a school board or county tax board, and the next thing you know, your educational budget is FUCKED.

      They can't fire teachers, because that gets noticed - go from 25 to 35 students per class and the parents see it.
      They won't ever fire principals or superintentents, that gets noticed and they have tenure.
      So who gets fucked? Well they look in the obvious places.

      #1 - running your own cafeteria and actually providing healthy meals? Well we can get a kickback if we switch to some crapass "food substittute" provider like Aramark or Chartwells and let them festoon the buildings with coke machines and snack vending machines.

      #2 - Janitorial staff? Feh. We'll just make the teachers do it.

      #3 - IT budget. This is where the "but I have a nephew who knows O SO MUCH about technology and he says this laptop is fine" bullshit comes into play. You're trying to set up a secure network and a domain that will prevent unauthorized access and other problems, all Mr. Dumbshit Creationist Republican knows is "compooter cost munny."

      End result? Exactly the shit he is seeing.

    15. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And DC and Detriot are shining examples of the other party?

      You can't fire teachers due to the UNIONS. They'll strike and mess up everyone summer.

      Look in any public school and to them PCs are MS WORD/EXCEL/ACCESS. Thats as far as they go... and its a waste of time. If you want to 'learn PC's then go to a summer camp or figure it out yourself.. like most of us did in the 80's and 90's.

      No school needs a computer lab... its just another wasted resource and an outmoded educational method.

    16. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea! They'll have to go with a free software distribution like Trisquel then.... :) Anything else is a major security risk to your children.

    17. Re:Use fear. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Generally the laptops would work with a bit more memory,

      It depends on what you mean by "Work". In our school district, we found out the hard way, that the VLM KMS Server (microsoft DRM) doesn't work with commodity hardware, PERIOD. There is an extra setting in BIOS that is a MS Key on Enterprise level hardware that is required for the KMS to activate our Win 7 Professional/Server 2k8R2. (Office KMS works fine however).

      This alone is reason enough to say "No unauthorized purchases". When you're imaging (WDS is a godsend) bulk computers, saving the district THOUSANDS in labor by having everything "enterprise" level and supporting 5000+ computers with a staff of 9, it all makes sense.

      As for the Original question, I have learned a phrase that keeps people at bay, "Can I have a budget code for that", whenever they ask me if something is possible. In IT, almost anything is possible, given the right budget. The idea that you can run everything on a shoestring should be put to rest that easy.

      The other phrase I've learned is, "If you won't support IT, why should IT support you". The meaning is simple, if you go around IT, then you don't get IT support, or you are last in line when it comes to solving the issues of the day. "Your Acer isn't running Pro? Sorry, I have computers that are part of the domain that need support, they are my priority"

      Lastly, one has to communicate WHY (often in overly simplistic terms) the IT has its rules. It isn't to be dicks (okay, sometimes it is) but rather because there are consequences for not doing things right in the first place. Mostly those consequences cost more in the long run than doing things right in the first place. Lost data, slow support, expending resources to put out fires that didnt't need to happen in the first place. ALL trying to save a buck.

      And I feel for the guy. I know what it means when the Administration is too stupid to know how dumb they really are. These people know nothing, are making decisions in complete and utter arrogance of ignorance. And I have the stories to prove it.

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    18. Re:Use fear. by GmExtremacy · · Score: 2

      Protecting the children is absolutely a necessary thing to be doing

      Yes. Sexting. How awful! We must protect them from indecent thoughts! For the children, of course.

    19. Re:Use fear. by rioki · · Score: 1

      I am not so sure about that monitoring thing here. I understand the basic sentiment and you need clear rules of conduct for the schools IT resources. The big problem is children are involved you must be VERY CAREFUL that you don't trample on their privacy rights. You know you have a problem when you installing a monitoring software goes for securing the IT systems to you pervert spying on our poor children.

    20. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know you have a problem when you installing a monitoring software goes for securing the IT systems to you pervert spying on our poor children.

      Did you just have a stroke?

    21. Re:Use fear. by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 2

      Generally the laptops would work with a bit more memory,

      It depends on what you mean by "Work". In our school district, we found out the hard way, that the VLM KMS Server (microsoft DRM) doesn't work with commodity hardware, PERIOD. There is an extra setting in BIOS that is a MS Key on Enterprise level hardware that is required for the KMS to activate our Win 7 Professional/Server 2k8R2. (Office KMS works fine however).

      If you don't have hardware with SLP bits in it, you can get all your enterprise stuff to activate by changing the registry setting:
      “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\OOBE\MediaBootInstall” to 0

      REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\OOBE /v MediaBootInstall /t reg_dword /f /d 0
      and slmgr /rearm

      aught to do it.

      MS volume licences are "upgrade only", so it either needs to recognize MS SLP bits in the BIOS, or installed by an "upgrade", or tricked to think it was installed as an upgrade.

    22. Re:Use fear. by operagost · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that's the solution: get rid of the Republicans. Let's ignore the fact that at the local level, partisanship is much less of an issue. I'm sure that reducing ourselves to one-party rule is the solution. We don't need to address waste, loss, graft, or high administrative salaries.

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    23. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying it's the Republicans fault that they can't fire teachers, principals or superintendents?

      I don't know where you live but my experience doesn't follow that. I live in the most liberal part of a deep blue state and they're closing entire schools. Parents are pissed beyond imagination, but the area just doesn't have the money, a product of the economic downturn, driving businesses out of town with uncompetitive taxes and fees (losing their tax base) and plain old waste. The single largest budget item in the state is education, (to the tune of $12K per student per year last time I checked) but somehow that doesn't translate to much funding by the time it gets to the classroom. I'm told that the ratio of administrators to teachers was three to one when I moved here and is now something like seven to one. I'm pretty sure there are some unnecessary personnel in there somewhere, but the problem seems to be that it's the unnecessary people who get to choose.

      Seeing as how we couldn't field a Republican mayor, governor or congress critter to save our lives, I'm having a hard time laying this at the Republicans feet. It'd be convenient, though, I'm sure.

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    24. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I don't think that's the point. The point is to protect the school system from legal and public hassles when underage porn is found on the school network. Even if it's entirely a student's fault that it's there, the school still takes the hit in the media and courtroom.

      You can't stop sexting. At best you can try to keep it off your own machines.

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    25. Re:Use fear. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Nice! Thanks for the reg hack. Gonna try it right now. And if it works, and I ever meet you .. I'll buy you a brew of your choice.

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    26. Re:Use fear. by ultranova · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying it's the Republicans fault that they can't fire teachers, principals or superintendents?

      No, he's saying that it's the Republicans fault that Republicans are slashing education budgets as low as possible to get lower taxes while trying to pretend they're not doing that by avoiding easily noticeable things like firing teachers. This may or may not have consequences down the road, such as creating an undereducated public who can't compete with China nor Europe on either engineering nor cultural output, thus dropping the US into third world status, but that's beyond the point.

      Mind you, I'm an European, so the only thing that's troublesome in this scenario for me is that ICANN might be moved to some country without a First Amendment. That "goddamn piece of paper" is the only thing the US still has to contribute to the rest of the world. That fact should also be some food for the thought for you folks, and something you should digest before it's too late. Unless, of course, you want to be tpssed into the wastebin of history with the rest of the has-beens.

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    27. Re:Use fear. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      So, again, we have seven administrators in the school system for every teacher. Does that seem proper and efficient to you?

      The current educational budget in my state works out to roughly $12,000 (US) per child per year, making it the single largest budget item in the state. If that's not enough, what is?

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    28. Re:Use fear. by zildgulf · · Score: 1

      You might want to take a cue from "Mordac: The preventer of IT services" of the Dilbert comic.

    29. Re:Use fear. by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      For more information check: http://bit.ly/aXS77Q

      For all bystanders: "Volume licences" from Microsoft are upgrade only. You cannot buy bare metal with no license, and put a VL image on it. They are, for example, to upgrade a Windows XP Professional OEM license (or retail I believe) to a Windows 7 Professional license.

      You are also entitled to:
      -Reimaging rights. If you bought computers that came with Windows 7 Pro OEM licences, you are allowed, at no charge, to install your Windows 7 Pro VL image on it.

      -Downgrade rights. If you bought computers that came with Windows 7 Pro OEM licences, you are allowed, at no charge, to install your Windows XP Pro VL on it.

      While I dislike some of Microsoft's licencing policies, I don't advocate piracy, particularly in a school or business.

    30. Re:Use fear. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      It also depends upon the VLM agreement you have. There are some agreements that, like the one we use, are based on ADA and give rights to install on any computer the various bits we are licensed for, without regard to computer counts. This allows us the freedom to install WIN7PRO and OFFICE2012 on all computers district wide, and included all the SEAT licenses for things like Server 2008R2 and Exchange (both we have to purchase separately)

      This means we can tell the Superintendent that we know we are 100% in compliance regardless of the details. I can sleep at night not worrying about Microsoft audits.

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    31. Re:Use fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work at a UK private prep school ages 3 - 13 we are on the cheaper end of the scale for the south east and we charge £12k per year for day students plus extras I think $12k per year average for a whole school district is a bargin.

  2. If all else failes, try the obvious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I know this sounds like a stock answer, but you will get much more bang for your buck with Linux.

    1. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this sounds like a stock answer, but you will get much more bang for your buck with Linux.

      True.It sounds like the submitter is up the creek regardless of OS, though. Apart from Linux, they'd probably need some more personpower too. And realistically, even if it would technically be the right thing to do, telling the boss that we should ditch all the licences for W7 that we've "paid" for isn't gonna fly...

      Maybe a long term plan of building a parallell machinepark of rag-tag donated machines running linux and used for experimenting and learning about computers themselves (as opposed to learning word and access and bonzibuddy) , while being able to do wordprocessing and webpages as well... but howto further the gnu/linux commike plot was not the topic. ..

      Meta: So, parent was modded flamebait... I find that moderation more inflammatory than the above comment. Whom would the comment be baiting? Are we really supposed to not mention that linux is free of cost and could be used for general computing, because that could get Microsoft proponents agitated? I think the moderator should try to aquire some better moderating skillz.

    2. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by next_ghost · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If you're low on cash and somebody keeps taking your budget and giving you junk instead of working machines, switch to bare-metal-only policy for acquiring new machines. Making your own Linux install image is pretty easy and it takes much less post-instal setup than cloned image of Windows (plus there's no trouble with minor differences in hardware which can make cloning Windows installations between different machines impossible). As a bonus, you can then report the superintendent for wasting money on useless Windows licences.

    3. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by AnalogDreams · · Score: 1

      Our IT department built Windows 7 images that can be deployed across different hardware builds.
      This was after we were asked to find a solution without purchasing additional software, which we did.

      Now I want access to SCCM.

      Also, making an image of a Windows installation with Ghost, Acronis or another program of your choice is not the "correct" way to image multiple machines.

    4. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by kenh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What problem would switching platforms solve? They'd have to select/learn a whole lot of different software, they'd have to cobble together some way of centrally managing several hundred computers AND a thousand or two user accounts without any real vendor tools to speak of.

      Typically people who spout 'linux' as the answer for problems in educational computing tend to think that shooks use little more than an office suite & a browser... That is rarely the case - typically textbooks have supporting software, there are various assessment tools, special-purpose tools for managing HVAC, the library, student records, etc.

      Turning the entire infrastructure of a school upside-down to switch platforms is more of a problem than a solution.

      The OP didn't complain about technology (apple, PC) but about respect and trust issues. His teachers would never think twice about picking hardware for his environment, but they'd never let him pick their text books.

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    5. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

      Also, making an image of a Windows installation with Ghost, Acronis or another program of your choice is not the "correct" way to image multiple machines.

      Actually it works pretty dam well if you know what you're doing. Some of the cloning software supports restoring to dissimilar hardware. The MS deployment toolkit doesn't work real well for installing a lot of software. In many cases, it really is simpler to build and customize one machine, do a sysprep, and them clone it out. If you're cloning, you should probably look at enterprise.volume licensing or have a KMS server just to avoid the licensing and activation headaches.

    6. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by AnalogDreams · · Score: 1

      Cloning software does work work, both have their purpose.
      With .wim images, I can manually add drivers and certain MS updates with DISM. This is great for when you have 100 new laptops to get ready for students.
      Or I can manually setup one laptop, then build a customized image.
      I am not saying this is easier than Ghost (or other software), that would be lying, but there are a lot of aspects with Windows images that I like. Combining multiple images into one and utilizing single-instance storage allows me to have a 32bit and 64bit image in one ~8GB file. Anytime it is updated, I can replace the .wim file on my USB flash drive, which boots with the Windows installer and graphically guides me along. No more WinPE command line needed, unless I want to appear busy.

    7. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by AnalogDreams · · Score: 0

      If I could, I would of given you all my mod points.

    8. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by lwriemen · · Score: 2

      Meta: So, parent was modded flamebait... I find that moderation more inflammatory than the above comment. Whom would the comment be baiting? Are we really supposed to not mention that linux is free of cost and could be used for general computing, because that could get Microsoft proponents agitated? I think the moderator should try to aquire some better moderating skillz.

      Come on now. Microsoft probably paid good money for someone to mod that post down. ;-) Oh wait! You're post is modded to zero as well. Surprise, surprise. OTOH, maybe it's due to the AC. Let's wait and see if my post gets modded below 1 as well.

      As someone else posted, there are application considerations, and Microsoft still has an "applications barrier to entry" in the PC world. This might be insurmountable wrt textbook software, etc., but like you said, one can easily set up some test machines.

    9. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by lwriemen · · Score: 1

      What problem would switching platforms solve?

      Turning the entire infrastructure of a school upside-down to switch platforms is more of a problem than a solution.

      The OP didn't complain about technology

      I would consider not being able to connect to the network to be a technology problem, and the OP also never states what infrastructure the school is on or what platforms they usually run. The suggestion of a switch to Linux also assumes too much.

      Your points about needing to consider Windows-only applications needs are valid, considering Microsoft's still present "applications barrier to entry" on PCs.

    10. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by next_ghost · · Score: 1

      I did a bit of cloning for a school which had two groups of identical machines. What I did: install a full system on one machine, use Sysprep, reboot to System Rescue CD and create system image using Partimage, then restore the image on other machines. It worked fine within each group but if I tried to restore the image in the other group (one group was about 3 years older than the other so there was completely different hardware), all I got was BSOD right after bootloader. Sysprep documentation says that reference and destination machines must have compatible HAL and the same ACPI interface. That was apparently not the case there. So what's your suggestion?

    11. Re:If all else failes, try the obvious. by AnalogDreams · · Score: 0

      If it is XP, my suggestion is to build two different reference images.
      All of my Windows XP images have been specific to the model of the build system at work. It may be possible to make a generic Windows XP image for different hardware configurations, but I honestly have never tried it.

      To give you an example of the issue we ran into; newer laptops and desktops with updated chipsets would give an error during the configuration portion with our generic Windows 7 .wim image. I located the latest chipset drivers and used DISM to properly insert them into the .wim, which resolved the problem.
      Also, I only use the tools Microsoft provides to capture a SysPrep'ed OS; never Partimage, Ghost or Acronis.

      I am not an expert on Microsoft's Deployment Toolkit, just trying to point out that they do offer a solution to customize the operating system to your needs and deploy without the purchase of additional software. It is not an overnight process to learn, unless you are extremely gifted.

  3. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find a way to make it work.

  4. licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    You need to have the licensing right for the software that you have.

    http://www.microsoft.com/education/en-us/buy/licensing/Pages/schoolenrollment.aspx

    But right now you need to tell the people who say 'make it work' how big the fine is for not have the licensing right.

    1. Re:licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And get their answer in writing. When the worst happens, their main concern, won't be fixing the problem, but asigning blame.

      Remember, bureaucracy first, IT second. Trust me on this, or your next post here will be about your search for a job.

    2. Re:licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Get records of that, bring it up at major district meetings so that everyone knows about it, and if they still don't fix it...

      Anonymously tip the BSA off to trigger a raid.

    3. Re:licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great way to get fired also anyone with half a brain would look at the BSA "auditors" and tell them to get lost until they contact the lawyers.

    4. Re:licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      We're talking about public school administration staff.

      You're lucky if there's a quarter of a brain there.

    5. Re:licensing Microsoft School Enrollment by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      True that. Peter Principle at its worst is found in education.

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  5. Do you have a service-quality issue? by gweihir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a reason people are bypassing you. From my experience, it is because you either are not performing well, or they think that you are not performing well. If it is the latter, you should raise awareness with regard to backups, security, etc. You may also want at look at prices. For example, recently I have seen ridiculous internal prices for a few GBs of file-server storage accessible to a complete department.

    Of course, if it is the former, then you are screwed and people are bypassing you so that they can get their jobs done. In that case you should think about abandoning the current IT department and building up a new one with people that understand that they are service providers.

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    1. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I should also add that IMO you must get away from "curriculum and instruction" or you will not be able to do your job well. If you cannot do that, then I advise you to look for a better job where they actually let you do work under acceptable conditions. Yes, that may be hard, but in these situations, typically all the good people leave for exactly this reason and the IT department slowly becomes non-functional. I have seen this several times, fortunately from the outside.

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    2. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Well, there could always be the issue of "thats the way we always did it." If no one has shown the folks doing the purchasing how the process ought to go before, then they will do whatever they are familiar with/whatever they can come up with. You might be able to get somewhere by setting up a very simple procedure (making sure to avoid the problems mentioned in parent) and then get out and talk with the people who are making the requests that sidestep your department. Basically, if you can train people to come to you first then you can sanitize all the requests. On the other hand, if people perceive faults like the parent suggested, this won't work.

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    3. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a reason people are bypassing you. From my experience, it is because you either are not performing well, or they think that you are not performing well

      From my experience, your job performance is entirely irrelevant. This is simply pointy-haired-boss syndrome. Some idiot up the food chain thinks he knows how to do your job better than you do.

      If you can't properly train your PHB, the only solution that usually works is to get a new one. This may involve planting kiddy porn on his laptop and seeing him do some hard prison time, if he proves intractable.

    4. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Obligatory link to BOFH.

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    5. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He did say he was in an "economically shaky, low-performing school district". An organization being characterized poorly like that usually means that the people running it at the top are doing a lousy job, and when that's the case, there's not much people at lower levels can do, and it also means those people at the lower levels probably aren't to blame.

    6. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Forget all the bad advice. It's called politics. Want the right things done, start accruing political power. Create a circle of supportive people with sufficient power to make real decisions.

      Never forget there are many shit heads who will make terrible decisions just to get freebees from suppliers, undermine that relationship and they will seek to get you fired and they will do that as their major job focus, unbeknownst to you, until you are gone.

      Want to implement solutions. First present them to the 'elected officials' and explain how they can make themselves look good in the eye's of the public by implementing them and how they can make the political competitors look bad by going with campaign donors, hard sell, easy to count money the understand anything at all to do with IT.

      Reality solution, line up another job, then and only then implement the correct solution riding roughshod over all the political appointees, arse holes looking for freebees and, people to lazy to change. You will either succeed or be blamed for everything including the bad weather and be fired.

      You will find that corrupt supplies will block sound decisions at every turn and you will have to directly publicly challenge them and their supporters.

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    7. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. His predecessor could have been an idiot, and now he is fighting the institutionalization of that.

    8. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that there must be a reason they do not recognize that the IT director should have oversight of IT purchases. As the IT manager for a larger district with better funding, I feel your pain. You need to put together a concerted marketing effort (not just one PPT!) to demonstrate how you can get real ROI by implementing basic standards around HW and SW platforms. If you can't get them to agree, it is either because you are not the right person to sell it, or they really are idiots. Either way, it's time to look for another job.

    9. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Meh. It's probably a poor district with not terribly bright students. There are lots of those. Occasionally, miracles are worked on these places, but largely they fail through inertia. You're right that the low-level employees aren't usually due for any significant blame.

    10. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      That's partly the case. I'm convinced that some of the administrators we've gone through lately either needed a job or used us to gain experience and leave. Thus they have no regard for the longevity of the district, only their own immediate gains. Our current superintendent was the 3rd or 4th choice. The other applicants turned it down, one didn't even know he had applied.

    11. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 2

      The IT department was recently, briefly under "business and operations," but when the HR director who led the restructure left and a new asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction came in, she got IT moved under C&I so she could have direct access to its budget. She was employed for less than 3 years and lost over ~$500,000 worth of grants because she fired her secretary, who kept "nagging" her to finalize some grant paper work for money already awarded.

    12. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      No it's not a QOS issue. You can't convince some of our employees not to buy $399 laptops for school from Wal-mart. "Why does a wireless access point need to cost $400? Can't you just go to Best Buy and get a $50 one? The one I have at home works just fine." They just think we're trying to buy Porches when a Nissan will do all they want and more, but they are wrong."

    13. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, he has *somehow* avoided the whole Apple thing. Since that is the #1 issue in technology in education, he at least has got that going for him.

    14. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 1

      It sounds like a large part of the district administration is probably worthless. Who cares about that? The voters, potentially, and the Federal government ultimately. Claim that All The Children Will Be Left Behind if they don't have good IT resources. Get local news coverage, get the mayor or city council involved (anonymously, obviously). That's the only way to fix broken administration. You'll get your token budget from the admins for a year or two (they probably couldn't care less about it anyway), and you can try to future-proof what you buy to last until the next time you have to drum up support.

    15. Re:Do you have a service-quality issue? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      People that crave power this badly and at the same time are completely incompetent to wield that power are the scum of the earth.

      I agree with the comments that you can either leave or go political.

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  6. Techsoup by gotpaint32 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you considered purchasing your software through Techsoup. Microsoft software is virtually free (last i remember something like 10 to 20 bucks per copy of windows, similarly cheap for server OSes as well) so long as your organization qualifies. I am assuming you want to integrate everything on a Windows domain...

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    1. Re:Techsoup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately public schools aren't allowed to take advantage of Techsoup. I am the IT guy for a non-profit that takes advantage of Techsoup (Cisco 2960 switches for $250) but am not allowed to use them for the public school that I am the volunteer admin for.

    2. Re:Techsoup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Schools typically do not qualify for TechSoup. It's mainly intended for 501c3 non-profit charities.

  7. You don't. by idontgno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it's literally as bad as you describe, your intended function is to fail as spectacularly as possible in order to be the fall guy. You can't gather meaningful evidence to convince or refute the decision-makers, and no one is going to believe you when you claim you're being asked to do the impossible by the unreasonable.

    Leave. The only reason they want you there is that they want you on the bridge when the ship runs aground.

    When failure's not an options (because it's mandatory), you're under no obligation to remain involved with that fiasco, and short of blackmail-level evidence, you have no way to change course anyway.

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    1. Re:You don't. by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I second the "Leave" recommendation. You aren't going to change minds. You can dig in your heals and tell them "No, this will not work", and they may listen to you...but just as likely they'll find someone who they can bully around. More likely really.

      Time to jump ship and let them fail on their own.

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    2. Re:You don't. by gweihir · · Score: 2

      I agree. Except that they may not understand that they are setting IT up to fail. They may just consider IT to be "not important". Of course that is wrong in any modern organization. Today, IT is basically always critical. Still, there is no reason to battle insane odds, no matter the root cause. A lot more organizations need to fail because of handling IT wrongly or as a lesser priority before things change.

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    3. Re:You don't. by forkfail · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also concur. Get out before they drag you down with them, and ruin your chances for another gig.

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    4. Re:You don't. by Marillion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      First things first. You need to recognize that you don't have a technology problem. You have a people problem. Then you need to articulate this (tactfully, of course) as far and as wide as possible.

      If you succeed at that, follow up on the other excellent technical ideas expressed here.

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    5. Re:You don't. by JeanCroix · · Score: 1

      Start getting your resume out now. This isn't a budget/technology problem, it's a management problem, and it doesn't sound like you're in the position to do anything about it except take the fall.

    6. Re:You don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When failure's not an options (because it's mandatory), you're under no obligation to remain involved with that fiasco, and short of blackmail-level evidence, you have no way to change course anyway.

      I second the "Leave" recommendation.

      A matter of taste, I guess: I second the "blackmail-level evidence" - just don't make it short.

    7. Re:You don't. by v1 · · Score: 2

      We DO seem to see a lot of "I'm in an impossible job situation, what do I do?" Ask Slashdots lately. The most common answer is usually the same... if you're in a bad spot, things are falling apart, and all the usual routes of resolution are being thwarted by people you have no control over, YES, it is time to leave. It's frustrating, defeating, and unfair but sometimes that's just how life is and you have to react.

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    8. Re:You don't. by Krishnoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If it's literally as bad as you describe, your intended function is to fail as spectacularly as possible in order to be the fall guy.

      I found this epic tale as an example of this situation. Knowing the indicators to look for based on others' hard-won experience can keep you from repeating their mistakes.

    9. Re:You don't. by mandelbr0t · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This story has a lot of valuable lessons to be learned. The first lesson, I think, that you can take from your experience is that you are wholly unqualified to deal with the political and management issues involved. Therefore, do not involve yourself in management or politics. The (non-technical) suggestions given have all involved either an upward appeal to authority, or coercive measures. These will only make matters worse for you. If you want to keep your job, and think that you actually have a chance to make things work, ingratiate yourself to some people who can support you if things go south. I doubt very much that you are being deliberately set up as a fall guy. The school, after all, has a need to stay somewhat technologically relevant, but they're doing it on increasingly less money.

      I'm guessing you went into education because you want to make a difference. Some people I know did as well, and they all tell the same story. Long, hard hours with very little acknowledgement. I would guess that's a reality of education these days. With a budget that's always short on funds, management will squeeze every last drop of effort from every employee. So, work under the assumption that the people who hold the purse strings are under at least as much pressure as you are. Maybe it's not true, but there's nothing you can do about it except quit.

      Off the top of my head, the best people to get on your side are teachers and students. While you can't solve everything all at once, perhaps there are some small problems you can solve for specific people. And, while someone joked about making network maintenance an elective, there's probably some truth to it. I volunteered to help out the sole network admin when I was in high school. Perhaps some bright students would be willing to help out in exchange for some tutoring. The important thing is that some people know who you are and what you do, and can commiserate since your job is just as difficult as theirs. If it's important to you, hang in there. If it's not, then it's probably time to look for something less stressful.

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    10. Re:You don't. by grasshoppa · · Score: 2

      I wish I could teach people NOT to feel defeated by this. In IT, it's not only par for the course, but it's how you get raises. Take two people of similar capabilities, except one is somewhat seditary while the other changes jobs every year or two. Give it 10 years. Guess which one will have the higher salary, by quite a margin?

      This is just one aspect of our business, and I wish people understood that better.

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    11. Re:You don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one that changes jobs every year or two..... The other will be afflicted with salary compression.

    12. Re:You don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow... I think people are missing some key things here. This is not some Fortune 500 company with deep pockets and the ability to solve problems with money. This is education, a portion of our country's budget that is typically underfunded, and when it isn't the money goes to testing and other things that don't involve IT infrastructure. I'm not saying he's not being setup for failure, but think about what failure might mean in this case.

      Maybe the OP is working in education because he loves the reward of helping children at a "a small, economically shaky, low performing school district" get ahead through learning. Leaving may be the only option, but it's possible the OP doesn't want to leave... He might really just want advice on how to make a difference.

      I'd suggest learning to mange up. In education, there are still a lot of older educators in leadership roles who have little technology understanding. Taking initiative for more clearly articulating the problems with past purchases and showing the impact to student learning might be a way to change things. There are a variety of tactics you can use. Another option would be to look for grant or partner opportunities where third parties will provide better quality technologies for deployment in your school. Many school systems have grant writers who might be sympathetic to your cause and might be able to help.

      Regardless, education is a tough industry right now. Keep your chin up, and good luck.

    13. Re:You don't. by v1 · · Score: 1

      The outcome of that comparison is completely dependent on the circumstances. Financial condition of the company, boss's attitude, corporate politics.

      Remove a variable and look again. Compare two more-or-less identical people at different companies and see how the different companies treat the two entirely different.

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    14. Re:You don't. by zildgulf · · Score: 1

      There are a few strategies that could work if you have the ear of a higher up. Otherwise CYA and plan an exit strategy NOW!

      On second thought, plan an exit strategy now anyway, via networking and certifications. If they end up making you a fall guy you would be in a better position to find new work or start contract work. It worked for me. I was in the same position years ago and I got canned. Starting my own business and working contracts paid the bills until I went full time. I also learned a lot about how a business operates because of hands on experience, something even an MBA program can't do by itself.

      Remember that failure is always an option and you must be prepared to survive it. Once you understand that it will be easier for you to determine what you need to do and will likely increase your chance of success. It is counter-intuitive but often true. Dealing with failure mitigates fear of failure, allowing you to take the necessary risks to make your project succeed.

    15. Re:You don't. by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

      I was speaking general; obviously specific employers might buck the trend.

      There are a few employers out there that actually value their employees correctly, preemptively compensating and the like. They are obviously the exception. But I think if you take an average throughout the industry and correct for like-skill sets, you'd find that my position holds true.

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  8. two words by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

    bsa adult

  9. Push back by Okomokochoko · · Score: 1

    If you can, start by cutting off access to devices that you don't have control or at least knowledge of, i.e., any device that hasn't been brought in for proper setup (where I work we achieve this through central static DHCP). Also, tell your boss that you cannot do your job if (a) you have no money to do it and (b) no one lets you do it by bypassing you at every opportunity.

    1. Re:Push back by Korin43 · · Score: 2

      start by cutting off access to devices that you don't have control or at least knowledge of, i.e., any device that hasn't been brought in for proper setup (where I work we achieve this through central static DHCP).

      So annoy everyone and make more work for yourself?

    2. Re:Push back by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Where I work, they just use static addresses by policy. it's both annoying and completely impotent. We are a BYOD organization, which means that most employees have to manually set up laptops every time they come home at work. Once a month, someone sets it up wrong, and someone else's computer won't network properly. But I can just use the IP of another machine that I know is out of the office and assign that one: it's like musical chairs for IP addresses.

      God, how I have begged them to move to static DHCP.

  10. Within your domain by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    Run with your hair on fire!

    Unless these machines are members of a domain, remote management will be a *major* PITA if not impossible without 3rd party tools. Working stand-alone workgroup machines sucks balls from an IT admin point of view. They also tend to suck up vast amounts of bandwidth youtubing and playing games. You can forget content filtering via DNS content filtering as students will end up using their own public DNS forwarders. It can sorta be done. But locking shit down through a managed firewall will take weeks if not months of tweaking and tuning. It will absolutely be a cat and mouse game between you and the students. Again, you can't manage their machines with GPOs and whatnot.

    Simple solution. Ban all laptops and have them use iPads instead. Focus on IP white listing at the firewall level. No viruses, everything is the same experience. And parents foot the bill for the units.

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    1. Re:Within your domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Content filtering etc. is done at the firewall/router/proxy level, so that's not an issue. If the hardware supports it (switches, access points, etc), then I'd set everything up so that clients get assigned round-robin into a number of VLANs -- as large a number as the network hardware will support. Each client would then only see the outside internet (via a proxy), a domain server, and a small number of cohabitants on the same VLAN. I've set it up that way at work, and it helped prevent spread of worms and viruses that would try and attack every machine on a given subnet. Since we have about 20 permanently attached machines plus up to 10 coming-and-going ones, everyone is always on their own VLAN as we have configured 64 VLANs. Equipment is also segregated into VLANs: IP phones on one VLAN, printers on another, network switch and access point management interfaces on yet another. Access to internet, and routing between VLANs, it configured per VLAN, so for example printers are invisible for anything but the server machine, as are the phones. Client machines are not mutually visible either, and guest clients only see a SMB print service (via a separately running instance of samba). Only clients that register on an internal webpage (using a valid username/password) get switched over to the full gamut of services (SMB file/domain/print server, AD server, etc).

  11. $0? by tqk · · Score: 2

    Shut it all down. Continuing to run it in that condition's just going to degrade it further. Send the kids home with a note explaining what the incompetent !@#$hole forced you to do to their kids. Cc: the note to the news media.

    Oh, and get another job. You'll need it. Hell, you need it now.

    A !@#$storm like this can only blow up in your face. No point putting the solution off until it does.

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  12. Mission of your deparment is??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If your department doesn't have a mission/vision statement, then you have no standard to complain about not being able to meet. You also have no direction, and frankly, probably don't deserve to get funding for anything anyway. If you do have a mission statement, and you're currently unable to meet its objectives, then point it out. If you don't have leadership support, go to the citizens. Have them elect a school board which gives priority to educational technology. This is not that hard to do, but it does require a steadfast commitment. The National Ed-Tech Plan is also a good resource to argue from. Seriously, there are so many funding opportunities for low-income school districts in this country that there's no excuse for wallowing in your current predicament.

  13. Fiscal policy? by philip.paradis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    dips into IT funds when their pet project budgets run low

    Given the fact that you work in the public sector, you may wish to consider obtaining anything and everything available on budgetary policy for your school district, county, state, etc. It may turn out that what you're observing on the fiscal side of things actually represents clear misappropriation of funds. If that's the case, bringing it to the attention of people three or four levels up in the chain of command may have an interesting effect, and perhaps a detailed letter to a state representative would bring uncomfortable attention to those mismanaging the funds.

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    1. Re:Fiscal policy? by idontgno · · Score: 1

      If that's the case, bringing it to the attention of people three or four levels up in the chain of command may have an interesting effect, and perhaps a detailed letter to a state representative would bring uncomfortable attention to those mismanaging the funds.

      That's dangerous, unless you are absolutely sure of the lines of patronage and corruption, and you're sure you're not complaining to a decision-maker about one of their pet cronies.

      Yeah. I would normally concur with the general guidance of "use the chain of command" (or, more accurately, "go over his head"), but you need to be sure you're not narcing out to the wrong player.

      Maybe anonymous muckraking whistleblowing? I can think of any number of TV station newsrooms with investigative reporters salivating at the prospect of misappropriation, gross negligence, and the unwillingness to THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

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    2. Re:Fiscal policy? by philip.paradis · · Score: 1

      I certainly agree that if there's any chance of serious blowback, it may be in the submitter's best interest to conduct the research and submit reports anonymously. Of course, any retaliation resulting from an honest report of funds misappropriation would most likely be a very poor move on the school district's part, and would be great fodder for lawyers and the media as well.

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    3. Re:Fiscal policy? by godel_56 · · Score: 1

      dips into IT funds when their pet project budgets run low

      Given the fact that you work in the public sector, you may wish to consider obtaining anything and everything available on budgetary policy for your school district, county, state, etc. It may turn out that what you're observing on the fiscal side of things actually represents clear misappropriation of funds. If that's the case, bringing it to the attention of people three or four levels up in the chain of command may have an interesting effect, and perhaps a detailed letter to a state representative would bring uncomfortable attention to those mismanaging the funds.

      . . . and nothing bad ever happens to whistle blowers. /sarcasm

    4. Re:Fiscal policy? by starcraftsicko · · Score: 2

      Fiscal Policy is a red herring. Your Superintendent controls your budget and has the power to set and change priorities. No doubt he/she follows the letter of the rules. There is nothing to blow the whistle on unless you can represent criminal activities BEYOND mere negligence.

      You must USE the system. You must must PLAY the politics.

      In most K-12 districts, the fiscal year begins; your budget for the year becomes active; on July 1. 90-95% of your budget MUST BE encumbered (POs written against it) by July 15. All planned hardware and supply purchases are ordered and probably in transit by July 30. This is self defense.

      Some POs are for bills that may not come due until December or later... but these are not items that can easily be cancelled. Adobe & MS School agreements like to renew in January... pity the MEd who cancels Windows and Office for any pet project...

      So yes, they can grab up the 5-10%. That's basically contingency anyway. USE the system. When a critical system breaks in April and you don't have the parts on hand you will be the one grabbing the leftovers in other accounts to get it fixed. Trust me, if the server that hosts payroll needs a HDD, it will arrive tomorrow and nevermind the budget.

      USE the system. In April, your Superintendent is looking for projects to spend any leftover dollars on. Yes, s/he's going to use them to go to a conference in Hawaii... but if there is anything left, you might have a shot at it. You need your proposal - 3 quotes; i's with dots, t's with crosses - ready to go immediately. Hypothetical doesn't sell when the money has to be spent now.

      PLAY the politics. Find a convention in Hawaii that you and your Superintendent(s) can go to. People that do that are called TEAM PLAYERS. Be one.

    5. Re:Fiscal policy? by philip.paradis · · Score: 1

      I certainly understand how the budgeting process works; I'm speaking more to the apparent fact that funds already allocated in a budget are being redirected elsewhere mid-cycle. This seems to me to be likely indication of somebody breaking the rules, specifically the "asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction" the submitter mentioned. That job title seems to be beneath the superintendent, so I wonder if the superintendent is aware of what's happening.

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    6. Re:Fiscal policy? by starcraftsicko · · Score: 1

      so I wonder if the superintendent is aware of what's happening.

      Speaking from direct experience, it makes little difference. In every district I've worked at, transfers beyond a certain amount have to be approved by the school board/committee. A large city supt may be able to move $100k without approval, a small district fiscally challenged supt may only be able to move $2500. Bear in mind that's $2500 _at_a_time_. Transfers beyond the threshold will absolutely have been approved by the 'board or committee.

      Allowing transfers is fundamentally ethical. The district budget is not a suicide pact.

      If the Supt or ASupt or Business director say that the transfer is in the best interest of the students (even if you and I think otherwise). "The Rules" don't require that IT staff (or custodians, or misc. teachers, or school nurses) be consulted before a budget is modified. These transfers are generally approved without much debate. Good 'boards (and bad ones) trust their administrators to manage their schools and school budgets within reason. It really is for the children...

      Spending the discretionary budget ASAP is the single best defense against this ... negligence. The pet projects will happen. Let them happen to someone else. Run out of money fast.

      The next best defense is to go to the board meetings (all of them). Being there makes you a player. It puts you at (or near) the table when a 'board member asks innocently "well are we sure this is the best place to take that money from?"

    7. Re:Fiscal policy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is government they don't care. Pointing out that they don't care will not work. It will only make them suspect that you care and then you will be the problem.

    8. Re:Fiscal policy? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, everything's kosher; just bad decisions funding unplanned pet projects by higher ups to get funded by the IT department with an operational budget who spreads their money throughout the year so they don't operate 8 months of the year penniless.

  14. You are asking the wrong crowd by ZeroPly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a management/politics question. Gaining resources for your own department is what a good manager or VP does every day. IT people are fundamentally bad at this because they give answers that are technical and correct, yet are irrelevant in a financial or political context. While fighting the good fight, terms like "PCI", "HIPAA", and "BSA" will help you much more than "IPSEC" or "DNS".

    Learn political skills, work on establishing trust relationships with the other players rather than just being a technical grunt, and remember that if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.

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    Support microSD: in a post 9/11 world, it is unwise to carry your data on media that you cannot comfortably swallow.
    1. Re:You are asking the wrong crowd by rk · · Score: 2

      This is education. A big political term you should acquaint yourself with is FERPA.

  15. I don't the schools have the funds for ipods and s by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Run with your hair on fire!

    Unless these machines are members of a domain, remote management will be a *major* PITA if not impossible without 3rd party tools. Working stand-alone workgroup machines sucks balls from an IT admin point of view. They also tend to suck up vast amounts of bandwidth youtubing and playing games. You can forget content filtering via DNS content filtering as students will end up using their own public DNS forwarders. It can sorta be done. But locking shit down through a managed firewall will take weeks if not months of tweaking and tuning. It will absolutely be a cat and mouse game between you and the students. Again, you can't manage their machines with GPOs and whatnot.

    Simple solution. Ban all laptops and have them use iPads instead. Focus on IP white listing at the firewall level. No viruses, everything is the same experience. And parents foot the bill for the units.

    I don't the schools have the funds for ipods and even then the hardware / software to manage them.

    Also buying software for lot's of ipods is a big mess as well.

  16. Install win7 ent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Install the correct version of Windows 7 and send them the bill. If they ask whats the difference, tell them the license is for home use only and does not support the minimum connectivity needed your environment.

    You need to be able to win that battle first.

    Talk with the budget controllers to let them know that you have to pay for Windows twice if they select the wrong options. Work with them to build a list of 2-4 pre-configured builds that you publish twice a year. I believe Dell can set you up with an account to manage something like this.

    1. Re:Install win7 ent by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Install the correct version of Windows 7 and send them the bill.

      And pay for Win7 Ent licenses from where? Own pocket?

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    2. Re:Install win7 ent by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      No mater what breaks, gets lost, stolen or neglected 95% of the time, no one pays for it unless it's IT; because the asst. super says, "just do it, we'll worry about responsibility/accountability later." We can't bill internally for anything.

  17. CYA by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bitch, constantly, in writing... preferably notorized.

    That way, when the shit inevitably hits the fan and your bureaucratic slave-driver comes looking for a fall guy, you have documentation that shows you tried your ass off to get them to change their idiotic ways, but they staunchly refused.

    Been there, done that; still got screwed, but at least by documenting everything I managed to take the asshat who wouldn't listen down with me.

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  18. Options: Easy way or Hard way or A** Hole Way.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Probably the easiest and most satisfactory way to solve this situation is to resign in protest. After finding a new job of course.

    OR

    Brainstorm with your boss about strategies for change, (or maybe you are the boss of the IT dept).
    Look for board members that are sympathetic to your cause.
    Get outside review from some impartial organization.
    Get media attention. Someone would probably like to do an expose about the school district making incompetent IT decisions.

    OR

    Just be an indignant self-righteous belligerent basterd about it. Foam at the mouth too, it helps. [yes I know it's messpelled]

    OR

    Just do a half-ass job

  19. Is Linux an option? by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 1

    Is there any possibility that the laptops could be converted to run Linux? Usually Linux can be make to work very well on older and more resourced constrained devices. If the IT department knows nothing about Linux or you must have Win7 then it might not be a good option - otherwise why not explore this option.

    You could get everything you need for zero cost: an operating system, LibreOffice, browsers, decent networking (although that may depend on the wireless chipsets), LDAP etc. Plus, you won't have to lock them down so lots of games get played on them (apart from TuxRacer).

    Plenty of schools run Macs - at least the ones near me, so the "they only understand Windows" argument is invalid. Linux could be made to work well for school-type tasks without you having to get anything other than the budget for one competent sysadmin.

    1. Re:Is Linux an option? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      We have done this on about 250 out of 650 systems. For the most part it works very well, as the students are not yet brainwashed into the "I can only blow my nose on a kleenex" mindset when it comes to product choice. That happens when we become adults.

      You do, however run into problems with short-sighted vendors who only support windows and grudgingly support mac. And despite the relatively short path to porting most mac stuff to linux most vendors are loathe to do so. For the most part this is kind of warped economics, as they fear they will have to start supporting Linux. No dude. That's what WE'RE here for.

      You will also need to prevent your curriculum "experts" from getting starry-eyed from the shiny BS spun by the sales reps. On a broader note, even though they may have a "cloudy" spin on their web-based stuff to get the suits all moist, it damn well better integrate with the SIS, and not charge extra for the privilege. Unfortunately you have to get the powers that be to see past all the cutesy graphics and crap to the underlying mechanisms (or lack thereof).

      LDAP integration for auth, and NOT just AD. Support for groups in separate OUs. The list goes on.

  20. Quit by atari2600a · · Score: 1

    You really shouldn't be settling for anything below a high-end netbook or a low-end thinkpad.

  21. Ditch windows by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

    I mean it, keep some terminal server boxen around for the stuff that really must run on windows. Pitch it as a cost savings and standardization plan. Everything running end user windows should be using deep freeze or similar so you revert back to the known good state every reboot. Linux runs on just about anything you throw at it and lets face it most lab PC's need to run a very limited set of software.

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  22. id say adapt by nimbius · · Score: 1

    to the lowest common denominator. an active directory would be nice, but if you have control over the network then you essentially are 'the internet.'
    id consider repurposing the older hardware for something thats still useful (flagrant *nix plug, sorry) to students and teachers as a general access desktop that gets its configuration once a day or once a week and can still be used for teaching programming or proctoring an online exam. more advanced systems can be granted access to the sensitive side of the infrastructure like AD shares and "the network" as windows knows it.

    as for people bypassing the helpdesk, locking down network ports and wireless AP's is a good way to get to know these guys. make sure you approach them with a smile and a bit of sympathy as theyre likely only being clandestine because theyve been abused in the past. consider having a power-users group of faculty or maybe students too that can help eachother if you're overloaded, and always accept their feedback (even if it isnt really that great.)

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  23. I work for a public school district by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Let me explain how it works, will any of this make the person in charge look good(politics)? Telling your district purchaser to stop the madness will just lead to negative political impact on the person making the call unless there is greater easier political capital to gain by making the call. Until someones ass is held to the fire for the mistakes (which is rarely the actual one making them) nothing will change short term. Now lets talk on how to make school district politics work, forget the current person in charge, they already have their established friends and people who they owe favors. Instead look about 3-5 years in the future and figure out who might be in charge then and gather their favor as they are clawing their way to the top, these people will be much more willing to listen and have a higher probability of effecting the change you are looking for.

    Your first step, get your butt out to the school sites and work closely with the principals and give them what they want and need. These are those people who you will see in the positions you are looking to effect 3-5 years in the future, and most of them will remember the favors you did and the logic you provided those years ago.

    Welcome to school district politics, its slow, its annoying but with enough patience you can get it to work.

    1. Re:I work for a public school district by ghbpiper · · Score: 5, Informative

      I do as well. We've been able to save TONS by purchasing off-lease systems at 10 cents on the dollar WITH 3 year warranties. The bigger issue is that the wrong person is selecting and specifying technology purchases. Talk to the Supt or CBO. And yes try to make them look good, if you can. All computer, networking, AND software purchase should have to pass through the IT dept for evaluation. To not do so is foolish at best.

    2. Re:I work for a public school district by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah and one might never get what they need because it doesn't fit into the neat little "enterprise" box that IT lives in. :-(

  24. Good (exclusive) or effective tactics by __aamdvq1432 · · Score: 1

    Good Punch the idiot in charge in the face every time you get stuck with junk technology. Effective This one's trickier. It sounds as though your system's policy structure is ill-understood by your "asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction." On what basis just he justify overriding the placement of responsibility for purchases from IT to your budget controllers? Take the issue to your school board with clear explanations of the wasted monies that result from buying unusable computers. Explain to the board the failure to provide required educational materials. Convince them to clarify and set up or reaffirm the needed policies and establish or approve procedures to maintain oversight and enforcement of the correct practices. If your board seems recalcitrant, take your arguments upstream to the commissioners (or other public officials) who control the board. Finally, the court of last resort is public opinion; get media coverage to expose the waste and failure of the current practices. If it's too risky to your employment to attempt these things directly, recruit parents to be your public interface and feed them the needed facts.

    1. Re:Good (exclusive) or effective tactics by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      They don't understand why we keep telling and explaining not to buy $399 laptops from Wal-mart. They just see it as twice as many computers.

  25. Go to the supt, and the CBO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure that ALL technology purchases require IT department approval and evaluation. This is what we do. Also, we report to the business dept, not curriculum, which works better since the CBO has a better grasp of "technology" (K12-speak for IT/DP/Stuff with das blinken lights).

    1. Re:Go to the supt, and the CBO by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

      Make sure that ALL technology purchases require IT department approval and evaluation. This is what we do. Also, we report to the business dept, not curriculum, which works better since the CBO has a better grasp of "technology" (K12-speak for IT/DP/Stuff with das blinken lights).

      There can also be a disclaimer to this: "All technology purchases NOT approved by IT are unsupported." Although making the rule, and enforcing it are two different things.

    2. Re:Go to the supt, and the CBO by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      We can't get district administrative support, because Wal-mart sells a brend name laptop for $399.

  26. learn how to be unhelpful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think it's a no-win situation, but you need to learn when to be completely unhelpful.

    You see, the thing a couple things happen if you start to help someone do something with inadequate tools and resources. If you try to explain that you're willing to help them but tell them why it won't be as good as it could be, they'll either take it as a.) an insult couched in technobabble or b.) an excuse for your own ineptitude (also couched in technobabble). If you go forward with it and deliver a subpar solution (as you told them you would), you will find that you now own that solution and all the quirks and frustrations that go along with it. If it causes a problem for one of their responsibilities, they'll just tell their boss that it's your fault.

    Just repeat after me, "I'm sorry it's so technical."

    Along the same lines try to avoid end-user education. It took me a long time to figure this out, but it's pretty obvious really. What did all the cool kids in school think of the teachers of difficult subjects such as algebra or chemistry? They hated the teacher, personally, not the material or their lack of dedication. Those people grew up to be your co-workers, and they'll turn it into a personal issue if you attempt to teach them something and they don't get it on the first try.

    I suppose the biggest thing is learning how to let users fail and learn their own lessons. They won't listen to a computer nerd like you, because they believe they're better than you are. Just let them fail on their own, and if you get flack for that just say those magic words, "I'm sorry it's so technical."

  27. maybe...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Start a project to install open source, get the students involved, see how good they are at problem solving how to get a laptop working on your network.

    Also make sure you have mail stating your position on licensing and keep a copy ;)

  28. People problem not technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your problem is with your boss. I am not sure if this is the best place to get people advice. Couple of mine

    1) Sit down and explain to him the issues. Come up with a policy for a minimum standards.

    2) If this fails, PHB keeps going on, making it work.
            a) Try the fear factor. Not my favourite, not work in the long run. Against my ethics.
            b) Document it and make sure document survives after you leave. Then start looking for a job.

    Good luck...

    1. Re:People problem not technology by Joiseybill · · Score: 1

      Amen.

      As this poster says, mixed with some previous posts.. the people are the problem.

      "they" - the users or folks buying these doorstop machines are doing it because they think they have to.
      bosses / beancounters : if nobody is getting raped, killed, or sued .. then your problem isn't scary enough to throw money at.

      You are in a key position to make a difference.
        In addition to your technology know-how, you also have the position of being inside the system.
        Most of us IT folks have to learn on the fly. Just change your tactic a little.
        Learn the laws and policies that your State, county, school district, etc needs to live by. Put together a binder if that helps you.
        Student info needs to be protected under many US laws.. learn them, quote them, hang them in your office, sign your email with it.. anything that helps.

        In addition to having your boss - who is obviously in a position to control some money (just not the way you think it should be done).. you are allowed, and probably encouraged to participate in School Board meetings, Educator's Union or other trade council meetings, and technology groups ( like ACM education SIG) .
      Learn to speak the bureaucratic language. Heck, I bet you need a signature to request a vacation day. Get a signature every time you make an adjustment or installation on a computer. Not just when you want to - all the time. This becomes a "policy".
      When you see that users are trying to work around the system - something isn't working. The IT department is only there to make the job of education (and administration) easier. When you help , you are probably not noticed. When you impede, then you become the big problem everyone will blame.

      Make it work. You are on /. Have you ever heard of Linux, Samba, Open Office, Apache?
      Get open source software, install it on as many machines as you can - then put all the work on a server that you keep secure.
      If the users can get what they need on your website, they won't need high-end machines.
      Watch your system logs, and document the heck out of things. Make sure users know they are being logged.
          ( raises your visibility without becoming THE problem)

      If your dept has money to spend and bail out other people's pet projects, then you are doing it wrong.
      Start the year out with a planning meeting. Discuss how your department will most effectively use the budget you have.
      Put these goals on paper, and periodically refer back to them.
      This gives you concrete items to work towards, and the money is all "spent" on paper.

      If another department has a project / problem / cash shortfall that impacts your IT department, then you have the backup to say,
      " Okay, if we deviate from our original plans, do you want me to lower standards or cut out project 1, 2, or 3 ? "

      For as long as you keep this job, think of it like a small boutique store that you manage.
      Everything is documented, the customer is always right, and nothing is free.
      --If nothing else, that will cut your frustration and headache levels.

    2. Re:People problem not technology by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      Each person up the chain can tell the person below them how to spend their budget, zero out their budged, "borrow" money or just take some regardless of planning so long as it's legal. When the assistant superintendent runs out of money they poke around in our budget because we didn't blow it all in October.

    3. Re:People problem not technology by Joiseybill · · Score: 1

      ( Late - I know)
      I have a lot of experience working in the local government / edu systems ( not K-12, though)
        I get that you can make all the plans you like, but tomorrow the boss's boss can steal 99% of your budget, your people, even your offices.
        All I try to do is get written - or spoken plans out in the open as soon as practical; even creative or what-if ideas .. like committing $$ from next-year's budget to pay part of a bigger project.

      That way, when evaluation time / raise / bonus / layoff / scapegoat or what not rolls around.. you at least have something to fall back to.
          " We planned xxx... then we lost resources ( time, money, people).. and I did the best I could to work around it by ... [possibly - 'again, as we discussed when it happened']

      Also, I was trying to pass along some advice it took 10 years to sink in for me... the job stinks. Most jobs working for any gov't agency do. Anyone who has really "worked" at one will tell you that.
      But, after a while we humans can get used to living near a smelly swamp or noisy airport.. if we let the silly bureaucratic process/ people drown back into the other background noises.. then it isn't so stressful for folks like us - who still want to do things the "right way".
      If I could have gotten that Idea 10 years ago ... I'd still be at a lousy job, but at roughly 2.5 X the pay.

  29. Re:Good (exclusive) or effective tactics: Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find a group of parents who are somewhat tech savvy and who also volunteer at the school or local community organizations. Tell them what is going on and outline the ways you believe the system can be made to work correctly. Nothing is nastier in the collective minds of the school board than a collective of concerned committed capable parents.

  30. My sympathies by deacent · · Score: 2

    Sadly, it's not just education that's suffers the "make-it-work with $0" mindset. This along the lines of "the beatings will continue until morale improves" except it's "the budget will not be funded until results are achieved." This is a management problem, not an IT problem. You need someone intelligent who speaks management to make it understood that they have to have realistic and definable IT goals which includes a willingness to fund them on your side.

    I don't know much about your community but if you're lucky enough to have a grant-savvy PTO, you might be able to get them to write a grant application for the funding but, again, you need to be very clear about what the goals are and how the hardware/software you want will achieve them.

    Also your local board of ed and board of finance may be interested in the dipping into the IT budget when pet project funds run low. They tend to frown on stuff like that.

  31. take the initiative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In situations like this, the problem is ignorance of management to the costs and issues involved. Done properly, you can have machines that are standardised, running the correct OS, and costing less than generic individual PC/license purchases.

    Rather than simply bitch about it, work towards fixing the problem. Engage Dell/HP (or put the requirements out to tender with a bunch of them) or another large OEM, and run them through the number of PCs you have, and come up with a plan to depreciate them over 3-5 yrs (get extended warranty). Dell/HP will likely be able to give you bulk discount pricing of significantly less than RRP - like 25-50% off retail. Discuss your licensing options - being an educational institution, you should be able to get the correct software licenses for less than the cost purchasing individual licenses - and because they're perpetual "per head" or "per machine" licenses, you don't need to buy new ones every time you get a new PC - you simply pay for the count in use on an annual basis, which will save you money.

    I work for a company that had been doing licensing the "dumb" way before, and we ended up getting a better selection of software, proper enterprise support and annual per-head licensing for less than the cost of buying individual machines with OEM licenses. And thats with no EDU discount.

    Once you've got some numbers and a plan together, pitch it to management - ideally with a couple of suits from Dell/HP/MS at a meeting for your IT requirements.

    I"m guessing you're fairly young - all this coming from some fresh out of uni kid will not get much respect, but if you have suits from Dell/HP/MS on board and saying the same thing, your opinion will have a bit more validation behind it.

    If management are still not on board with the idea, leave. There's no hope, and you don't want to be stuck in a dead end job with no budget and thus no exposure to proper IT tools and procedures. It will do bad things for your career. At least you'll be able to say you tried.

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  32. School IT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Start by setting up a second network. If possible, put a different color faceplate on the outlets. Use smart switches with MAC authentication and VLANS.

    Now you have the IT maintained network, and the unsupported network.

    On the IT maintained network, you want your domain, all of your printers, and all of the machines you support.

    For the unsuported network, you have a DHCP/DNS server, transparent proxy/filter.

    Let them add their own computers to the unsupported network AFTER they have checked them in with you (MAC filtering), but make it clear that anything on the unsupported network are NOT something you are going to fix / make work. All you are providing them on the unsupported network is an IP connection.

    Now, that proxy set up we talked about above? Set it up to monitor for virii, and shut down access (via the switches) when it detects them. Before it does, send an automated warning to the sponcer (teacher or student), as well as to you, your boss and the sponsors immediate supervisor. Then after the third warning, kill their access, noting that they need to fix it before it can be added back to the unsupported network.

    Now, thats the stick. You also have ot have a nice carrot.

    Find some nice toys you can support. Basic Moodle installs, site access to databases, etc. (make them go through the log-in from home stuff via the unsupported network). storage is a good one. Site licensed software is a good one. Network printing (paid by IT) is a REALLY good one, and fight like hell not to let the unsupported computers anywhere near the IT supported printers.

    Oh, don't play the port game, you will loose. Open ports on request for the supported network. Make it REALLY easy on the supported network. Close problematic ports on the unsupported network, but leave everything else open.

    If you can make the supported experience a lot better than the unsupported one, you will start to win hearts and minds. Be REALLY good about fixing things on the supported network. ACTIVELY support teachers on the supported network. When you start getting a few teachers saying "of course your computers don't work - you keep bringing in this crap that you use on the unsupported network" then you will start to win.

  33. I know! by dishpig · · Score: 2

    Make Network Maintenance an elective!

  34. Linux for Schools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the Budget is 0 there is only one way out - Linux

    Do like Extremadura in Spain and go for Skolelinux.no (Debian Edu)

    http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/01/24/0416236/spanish-extremadura-moving-40000-desktops-to-linux

    http://www.slx.no/

    That way the kids will learn.

    Go for it :-)

  35. Quit by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    Let them wallow in their own failure.

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  36. Quit by lightknight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quit.

    You'll score a job at a place which values your expertise, probably with higher pay. The institution you worked for will go under, not because you left, but because it's fairly obvious that it's already borderline, and the people in charge have their heads up their asses -> Misallocation of appropriated funds is not looked kindly upon by the press, and following the fomenting scandal, the state may be forced to shutdown the school. Since it's already a low-performing school, an argument will be made that the state's SAT scores will rise by getting rid of this particular institution, and after a fight by the local Teacher's union (you need a leg to stand on to win these kinds of battles, and they won't have one), some dagger work will be pushed through, and the problem (the school) will be made to "go away."

    You probably feel for these kids, and you want to help them out; however, you can't. You have neither the time nor the resources necessary to change the pervading mentality that IT is the asst. supervisor's trick. Given that, the best you can do is hope that their future will not be terribly impacted by the ensuing shit-storm, and get yourself out of the line of fire.

    And be sure to document all further interactions with people of interest, in either written or electronic form. Keep a nightly off-site backup of your emails, as you may be charged at some point for complicity in this madness, and will need an alibi. Remember, a bureaucrat will not hesitate to throw an underling under a bus to save himself, and no one believes the accused.

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  37. I like the car analogy... by snemiro · · Score: 1

    IT is just like a car....you can run for a while...until you need gas. No gas, no energy to move the car. Pushing the car is against the purpose of the car. - Establish a plan with milestones and goals. Offer alternatives. Use open source. If somebody insist in $0 budget, ask him/her advice in how to do that and if he/she want to join you to make it happen. I don't know how to run a car with an empty tank with no gas. I've used LTSP once and it's cool to boot a class of 40 diskless PCs with PXE. Using a 100 Mbps network, they even boot much faster than any MS product. A little tricky for the graphic config. http://www.ltsp.org/

  38. Several solutions by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have worked in EDU for quite a few years now, I was involved with a K-12 before (consulting) and have been at two higher ed jobs (one in central IT, one in research)

    a) Go open source and simply tell them: no more Windows because your licensing doesn't check out (licensing for small-to-mid schools is mighty expensive even if you get all the discounts). You have to not only get your licensing for your machines (which are ridiculously low to pull in your non-technical staff at a low point sometimes $10 or $20 for Professional versions or bundles with Office and Windows licenses) but a heap load of servers and CAL's to get everything on the Microsoft-side to work together (which ended up in one of the negotiations I was in averaging $25/FTE/service (Exchange, Sharepoint, Forefront and AD (the standard suite) was thus $100/FTE) + several $100's per server (~$300 for W2K3 Standard back then).

    b) Spec a lot higher than you need. Sure, someone (you) can go to Dell/HP and spec out a $500 machine but you should budget for that machine to cost $1500, your purchasing department (if there is one) will balk and negotiate you down to $1000 and you'll get a decent machine. I have to do this all the time in research because computer gear is the first thing that gets axed out of the budgets. For ballpark figures in research: budget your workstations at 2x the actual cost, servers at 3x the actual cost, storage at 4x the actual cost and you'll usually barely be able to afford what you need.

    c) If you really need MS Office or a 'commercial' offering because the manager/purchasing/principal wants someone to yell at when it breaks down talk to an Apple rep and have them spec out your environment including all software licensing, they're pretty honest about it unlike Microsoft as the client is simple and included in your hardware cost (no 'upgrade' or 'enterprise' required), Server is unlimited clients and cheap (and again, your organization qualifies regardless), no CAL's, no FTE calculations, no hidden fees, no need for extra licenses or site licenses just to evade their auditing department (I'm your customer Microsoft, not your serf), you'll get a rep that has experience with K-12, free seminars and classes. They're great and easy to manage and integrate well with Windows even though they may require an overhaul of your entrenched Windows admins that got hired because they're the friend of the cousin of the principal.

    d) Get better negotiation skills and set up vendors against each other. Dell for example will RAISE their prices or remove their cheapest offerings for K-12 (especially existing customers) unless you can pit two sales people against each other. They can sometimes go to great lengths to reduce their cost. Alternatively, I have found that if you need a boatload of generic computers, you might even be cheaper getting a local company to custom build you a boatload of your specced out computers. I have worked with a company that custom builds laptops and desktops (if you need more than 50) and they have local, free customer and technical service whenever it breaks down and they're cheaper than the Dell/HP offerings and they build only to what you need. I needed for example specific workstations (2 nVidia cards with at least 1GB VRAM, Xeon CPU's, 16GB ECC RAM) and HP would sell me machines that came with the choice of Quadro ($$$) or an empty slot while Dell would in the same lineup have 1 month a shipment of nVidia cards and the next a shipment with ATI (now AMD) cards and then all of a sudden they would send me a machine with ECC RAM but the motherboard didn't support the ECC functionality.

    e) Look elsewhere to cut your budget. Do you really need Cisco gear? How about HP or Netgear even? Do you really need service plans? Do you really need Microsoft software on your server? LDAP is free, Samba is free and both are just as easy to manage as AD with the proper tools. And for the whiners that say "how about Global Policies" - do you really use that crap? In an educational environment you want to be

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    1. Re:Several solutions by starcraftsicko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wrong. I work in a district much like GP. What you describe is probably how the last guy got this one into this mess.

      a) "Open Source" is not a magic fix-it. If OP/GP is a windows/PC tech, he has a sharp learning curve ahead and he already has no time. If he makes a switch and can't make it work, he's on the street. Even if he can make it work, training the users will be nearly impossible. Sure, a browser is a browser, but K-12 is a strange industry where uncooperative employees tend to survive to weigh down the process for years. "You can't expect me to use this thing without training!" "You can't expect me to show up to training seminars without extra pay!" "I can't do my job because you gave me a computer that I can't use!" "Test scores are down because I spent all my time trying to use your system!"

      b) $1500? This guy is bidding against the donated 5yr old crap and "Black Friday" new pricing. They're going around him because he (or the last guy) was taking your advice. YES, $1500 is a good budget number for a midrange computer and monitor, standard MS software, and related infrastructure. He won't get that. You can play that game in your research environment only because everyone does....

      c) The reason you need MS Office is not for the Principals... The teachers will want an office suite on their computers that matches the instructional materials they can buy to aid their instruction. Yes, they should teach it differently, but they don't and this guy is a decade away from having the street cred to tell them how and still keep his job.

      d) Your best advice. If he can get them to come to him, get at least two vendors to fight for the business. Don't go the sealed bid route. Tell each about the other bid. Rinse and repeat.

      e) He has no budget. If he has a discretionary budget, infrastructure is the way to be. No you don't need cisco- I am personally a fan of HP switches...

      My advice: Setup a meeting with the Superintendent(s) and the business administrator. Share your reasonably priced vision of what their district could be in 3-4 years with consistent, managed investment. (Include their pet projects - grit your teeth and do it!) Tell them what it costs both in terms of dollars and procedural changes. Do this every 6 months or so regardless of the result.

      Regardless of the result:
      1: Core infrastructure first. Those switches. 2 Servers. Good backup for critical data (business office; stuff used by superintendents).

      1a: Business critical systems must be setup and managed correctly. This is the ONLY item I would take to the school board if you can't get cooperation. This means domain, authentication, good enterprise class AV, VPN access for semitrusted systems that need access. You should insist on this in the strongest way possible.

      2: Inventory and Ticket system. Knowing how many of what you are responsible for is important. Knowing how many times you've had to fix the lab of black Friday rejects is critical too.

      3: People that work through you take priority. If they did it your way and bought what you wanted the way you wanted, it MUST work. MUST! If you have to sit there a switch the bits yourself...

      4: That means you get to those home OS mistakes when you can. NEVER order parts for these machines. NEVER spend a lot of time servicing these machines. DO NOT be afraid to declare these systems "no longer usable without significant repair investment". When asked about that cost, quote the dollar amount of a properly spec'd new machine.

      5: DO NOT leave non-functional machines deployed. Non-functional equipment makes you look bad. Insufficient quantities of equipment may lead to proper budgeting...

      Finally: If you find yourself with a small budget for user endpoints (computers) and want to deploy to gain the most budgetary 'bang for your buck', consider deploying in the K-4 / K-6 segment of your district. Most districts put their best in the 9-12 space and place progressively older / less r

    2. Re:Several solutions by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      We have a chronic problem multi-year funding. The next administrator (high turn over) that comes along stops infrastructure upgrades so they can spend it on THEIR vision. The only funds that are successfully committed are those that are contractual. They halfway made us install prison refurb, 6 year old Dells to teacher's and students, only slightly better than what they replaced and now, 2 years later, need to be replaced...

      Admin refused to commit to any significant and/or long term IT spending.

    3. Re:Several solutions by guruevi · · Score: 2

      a) Yes I understand, but again, if you don't have the budget for properly licensed machines, you shouldn't be using them. Guess who will pay for an unlicensed machine on their network during one of these audits: Your job. Because even though you may have complained about it for years, you have also enabled it. Simply give them the machine with a free OS (FreeDOS will work) and tell them that you're not allowed by law to give them a Home edition if the machine was purchased with school funds and tell them you don't want to go to jail and also include the cost of fines to the school district for improper licensing. You'll get one of two results: the school will pay for your stuff to make the problem go away or the school will find out about this free stuff on the market.

      b) But that's the way it works. If you want NEW stuff, then you should quote those prices. If you're bidding against your own purchasing department, you have already lost the war because they'll continue buying the improper items with bad licensing etc. If you have no budget, ask parents to donate their old computers and continue cobbling old stuff together.

      c) Again, properly specced out computers will run whatever software the teachers need and Mac's are very prevalent in education. The good thing about Apple is they make things really easy on your end and the pricing will be honest. That was my point. Whether or not you'll still need Windows machines here and there is up to him to decide but it doesn't take away that Mac's may fix a lot of his issues with licensing.

      e) If he has a discretionary budget it still behooves him to cut spending. It may give him some leeway with the other stuff if he can quote lower prices than normal on commodity items. I do it as follows: quote them the high price and then later buy the item at a lower price. It gives you good cred if nothing else.

      Again, be creative with what you have and try to save money left and right. If you end up saving 50% on the backend systems you'll leave some room to breathe for them jn their budgets and they'll be more flexible with you when you're not saying "we need enterprisey stuff to make my life easy, please donate $100k to Microsoft"

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  39. Job Titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking as someone with an advanced degree in curriculum and instruction, let me just say how much it gets my goat that many so-called "curriculum and instruction" people in schools have zero educational background.

  40. Accountability, connecting perception to reality by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    There is often a disconnect between perception and reality in school environments (many others as well, but I've seen it magnified in schools). The real job before you is getting their perceptions to catch up to reality. Do you know how much equipment your IT staff is responsible for maintaining? Do you know how many hours are spent on particular tasks? Setting up an inventory and work order/ticket system, and having the staff use it allows you to produce hard numbers instead of "Somewhere around 'X'". That kind of data can help your IT boss reason with the supervisor, or the board.

    You may have a crappy situation with existing equipment, but make the best of it you can while advising school teachers and administrators that this is the best that can be done with sub-par equipment. Giving them a little bit of knowledge (equipment is sub-par, but we're precluded from buying better because of bureaucracy) can help mobilize the squeaky wheels (every district has them) that won't stop nagging until changes are made.

    Solutions? Does your IT department oversee/maintain solutions that contribute to your Districts bottom line? Things that improve test scores or save money? If not, get some. When you get technology working for your district, you make your department more relevant. Saving money on power by ensuring classroom computers shut down is a simple money saver that contributes to the bottom line.

    Documentation. I just heard you groan, but building a documentation system can be a real blessing. Wiki's have worked well for me, but use whatever works best in your environment. It can be a reminder for ubscure stuff you may have to handle from time to time, and it can also be an awesome show and tell piece for people to understand that you don't just re-install the OS.

    Remember that policy is all good and fine, but when the boss says jump, you jump. Even if it breaks policy. If it's a security issue, explain it to them, and if you judge necessary, require the exception to be made in some form that can be converted to hard-copy. Often they can tell between you being seriously concerned for District resources, or being a prideful hard-ass. Pick your battles carefully. When they can see you are willing to bend when possible, they will respect you more when you don't, even if they over-rule you.

    I see a number of people saying "quit", but these are the kind of challenges that can make a resume shine. Obviously you care about the job, otherwise you would have asked how to transfer from a K-12 job =D. [/soapbox]

  41. You're not in charge, are you? by spopepro · · Score: 1

    Based on your description, it seems like you have a cursory idea of the orgainizational structure of your school district, but very little knowlege about how things get purchased, out of where, and who is responsible for what. Based on your description, I have you pegged as a support tech, and there is 1 maybe 2 other people in the IT department (like a Technology Coordinator/Director and maybe a Network Manager). No?

    In truth, you should be celebrating the fact that your department is under the Assoc. Supe of C&I. Tech needs a department, and only the biggest districts are willing to make the Director an assistant/associate supe, so you either get to be under C&I or under Business. Your purchasing issues might get better under business, but the C&I side can get more things done, and is better for coordinating implementation. And can be used in your situation here if you know what to do.

    You make mention of your "purchaser" which I am also going to assume means someone at a site. This is typically how things go wrong. See, not everything is handled through the district budget and depending on your superintendent, schools frequently have significant lattitude in making their own descisions and purchases. Most of the time, not such a big deal. For tech: big deal. Now here's where you need your director of C&I, because that person is the direct pipeline into the sites, and the principals will listen to that person. So you only have to convince one person that the purchases are bad, and then it gets filtered out. Do you have weekly C&I or Educational Services meetings? You should. This is the place to get yourself (or really, your director) on the adgenda and demonstrate the problem. Don't explain it, it won't do any good talking.

    Now it also seems like you need to learn how school budgets work, because if you are public K-12 there is very little ability to take from one budget and move to another. Something else is going on there, and you probably aren't important enough to be privy to what's going on. Budget swipes have been prevelent in schools over the past 2 years, and part of it is because states are withholding categorical funds that were originally promised to balance their own budgets. Just last week we were informed that we wouldn't be getting $72k of categorical money from the state that was part of this year's budget, and then we had to start shuffling, because you can't make major changes in the middle of the school year. If you want to work with those in charge, rather than against them, try dialing back the mistrust.

    As far as no money, I'm going to guess that there is money out there. What is your ERATE filing? It might take some work, but most districts are leaving federal money on the table.

    1. Re:You're not in charge, are you? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      The boss is head of everything, jack of all trades minus programing; 1 "educational technology specialist" and 3 general tech support. ERATE is about 89%, but the school can't/won't fund the initial costs of new projects or upgrades and await ERATE reimbursement. Everyone else's pet projects get funded before more useful general IT projects and upgrades, unless it aligns with what someone else want's to do.

  42. Simple and effective answer. by Pollux · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, IT is currently under the 'asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction,' who has no useful understanding of maintaining and acquiring IT resources and lets others make poor IT purchasing decisions, by bypassing the IT department, and dips into IT funds when their pet project budgets run low. How can this be reversed when you get commands like 'make it work' and the budget is effectively $0?"

    Grow a pair.

    Seriously. You're not asserting yourself. You're letting your assistant sup do whatever they want with your budget. And he/she's probably doing it because you're not putting your foot down.

    I work in a small rural school as a tech coordinator, so from my experience, let me gather a few facts from your post. First thing's first: if you have an assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction, your district's not small, as in small-small. Practically any district that's less than 2,000 students K-12 won't have any assistant superintendents. Maybe you're not LAUSD, but you're not small. Given those numbers, you are probably not the only guy in your IT department, either. I'd give a rough estimate of somewhere between 500 to 1,500 machines in your district. Long story short, your district has money. Maybe it's not flowing to your department, but your district has money.

    Now, those machines need support, or they fail. Support costs money, both in parts and in human resources. You can easily communicate to your asst sup the poor return on investment he/she will get if they continue to underfund your department. If you want to illustrate the point more clearly, grab a faulty power supply out of your storage room (not one that fails outright, but one that has some inconsistent rails and a good heaping of dust bunnies to cause overheating), break into your sup's office and swap power supplies. When he/she calls you back the next day to complain, explain how you don't have any funding to repair the computer.

    But that's the passive-aggressive approach. What you really should do is get in there and assert to the ignoramus that poor purchasing decisions and lack of funding are diminishing the quality of the tech equipment in the building. If you want to be professional about it, cite observations you've made about increased demands on the computer resources over the last few years and increasing complaints from teachers and staff about how current tech is not meeting those needs. Explain the financial angle of how failure to comply with software licensing issues can be very detrimental long-term. Explain how buying equipment incompatible with the current infrastructure is a waste of money and human resources.

    And if he/she doesn't listen, go to the superintendent directly. If he/she doesn't listen, go to the school board. And if they don't listen, go to a different school.

    But seriously, grow a pair.

    1. Re:Simple and effective answer. by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      I'm not in charge, by any means. The boss is retired military, so his boss's word is God so he doesn't push issues. The assistant superintendent's exchange inbox reached it's limit of 5Gb, so she call over and told the boss to increase it. He said just save or delete old mail; now her inbox is 7Gb. Our attachment limit is 50Mb because they can't be bothered to use the shared folder; administrators and secretaries commonly have email with attachments bounce back.

      We have less than 3500 students and falling, about 300 teachers and staff, Texas 3A. The administrative job titles are created so the pay can be bumped up. An assistant superintendent gets paid more than a director who gets paid more than a coordinator... It's hard to get administrators to work here so they find creative ways to pay them more.

  43. Use linux ? by bigbangnet · · Score: 1
    Since cash is a big problem (boss are stuck up that subject ) in your school where you work, here is your answer. It's not the perfect answer but it's a good one. GNU/Linux. Yes it's not Windows, yes you have to do more than click next, yes it's not simple. But here are a couple of points that you should look at:

    1.Linux is free.

    2.If your new to it, start with some package distro like Ubuntu or Fedora, super easy to start with...learn from there. trust me it's easier than you think

    3.Linux distro works with Windows network environment

    4. Most,if not all, have free software alternative that can stand up to the big popular software like Microsoft office for example (openoffice is one)

    5.It's more secure for your users. In a sense that once it's deployed they can't change important system files or settings, they need administrator access for that

    6.You can customize lots of things like the look, the interface and lots of other settings

    7.Linux does have a Gui interface like Windows so the switch is easier than you think

    8.Linux as a great, wonderful, hell better support than Windows if you ask me. Lots of distros have wiki's, forums, website with support section.

    Note: Ubuntu is nearly as easy to use as Windows when it comes to it's use sometimes...just click next 20 times and your done installing..I swear. Super easy transition tip: Install vmware, then install Ubuntu in vmware. Install most programs you need. If you can't find some, find alternative (you will find some, your a geek like us), once your confortable enough, deploy some linux PC's in some department for testing and let it test for some weeks.

    1. Re:Use linux ? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      They absolutely won't go for it; I tried. I even suggested we only use Linux for student computers; no dice.

  44. Low budget but windows? by hobarrera · · Score: 1

    I can't even remotely understand how you can have budget issues, but can afford windows. Heck, if I wanted to buy windows 7 pro, it would cost 50% of what my current laptop costs. Granted: it's getting rather old, but that's exactly what happens when you have a low budget.
    Can't you just format it with something that's *free* if budget seems to be the issue for everyone?
    (I don't even mean FLOSS, just free as in freeware).

    1. Re:Low budget but windows? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      We only have the budget for about ~50 new computers to REPLACE old ones, so we reuse the Win XP Pro licenses. NEW and ADDITIONAL computers we try to get with Win 7 Pro. Too many "important" people have to have a recognizable brand name; they already complain about our white boxes.

    2. Re:Low budget but windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So someone went out and bought retail box licenses for the machines? What about all the server licensing? are they OEM licenses which cannot be transferred? Sounds like if you were hit with an audit, it would bankrupt the school district, the top staff and board would have their names in the headline of the paper and it would be total disaster for all involved.

  45. Deal directly with the Asst. Superintendent by rossz · · Score: 1

    Remove the engine from his car. Demand he "make it work". Refuse to give back the engine or to pay for a new one.

    Oh, and quit your job because there isn't a damn thing you can do to fix this problem. You are fucked.

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  46. but did you pay for the licences? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Also ghost is the old way of doing stuff and lot's of places still do stuff the old way hell XP is still out there on lot's of systems.

    1. Re:but did you pay for the licences? by AnalogDreams · · Score: 1

      So does (did) our department. Internally we have updated all of our XP images moved away from Ghost, but there are other IT clusters that still use the old Ghost images.
      Our XP systems are shrinking in number; however there will still be a percentage out in the wild for the next few years.

    2. Re:but did you pay for the licences? by ryanov · · Score: 1

      What's the right way if not Ghost (it's not my job to know, I'm just curious).

    3. Re:but did you pay for the licences? by AnalogDreams · · Score: 1
    4. Re:but did you pay for the licences? by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Last I knew though, sysprep was used WITH an imaging program (like Ghost) to remove machine-specific information, etc.

  47. Move On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps its time to move on before you are forced to. Is the current administration happy with the IT department? If no, then start looking for a new job. You should always be looking for a better job anyway. I've been in a similar situation and the administration had unrealistic expectations. I was always under a lot of stress, and my family and health suffered. Since then, I've taken other jobs, while paying a little less, they had no stress, normal hours, and have been some of the best jobs I've ever had. I wish I had left earlier. If they are lucky, they will find someone else who can take the IT department into a different direction and work well with the administrators, whether or not they are actually better or worse with integrating technology into the school.

  48. Consider Chromebooks by Guidii · · Score: 1

    I read an interesting write up on Chromebooks in education today. The article discusses tech for students... not sure if this is what you're looking for, but they really cut down on their support costs.

  49. Quit, or issue an ultimatum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. There isn't enough IT representation in the administration/decision-making strata -- which is necessary to PREVENT these situations. Even when we get there, we are typically relegated to token roles, without any authority, and certainly not strategic roles. We can't hold anyone accountable.

    You need to look for a better job -- or make one -- but, stop propping up ignorance and bad management.

    THAT is why the world is the way it is. That is why the Internet is being taken over by grey-haired men with well-trimmed mustaches: because IT bends over and takes it. Well guess what: they need us. It'll hurt, but we have to stand up and say "we won't play, unless it's on these terms."

    Use your skills (money, time, etc) strategically. If you don't like something, stand up and change it, or stop propping it up. Simple as that. It's gotten to the point I'd rather work in a warehouse than a lot of IT departments where I'm only helping make society worse.

  50. 15 years in K-12 IT with a multimillion budget by buss_error · · Score: 4, Insightful

    samzenpus,

    Stop making it work. It's the only answer. Your cleaver ability to make it work (somehow) only reinforces their "vision" that you don't know what you're talking about and ask for too much. Do be careful, and don't do this when a really obvious workaround is available. I'm taking about spending a week or two head scratching to come up with an answer is what you should stop or at least slow down. Don't make the slowdown suddenly, make it over a year.

    Also see this post: http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2686997&cid=39131125 - and take it to heart. Just happened to me. I quit rather than take the "death march". Got nearly a 100,000 dollar raise out of it too. Did I mention it's always good to carefully document your projects?

    When the higher-ups start complaining about things not working, say things like:
    "Yes, I knew that would happen if we substituted the windows licenses I requested for the less costly versions we were supplied. There is a reason for the price point difference. I would have pointed it out if I'd been informed of the change."
    "That hardware was known to be under-preforming, however, we were not advised our requested hardware was to be substituted for that or I would have pointed out the deficiencies."
    "I wouldn't dream of selecting what educational materials were purchased because I'm not an educator. I'm not sure why people that are not IT professionals would substitute their judgement in IT areas with out a even a consult with IT. We know about budget constraints and we specify the least expensive choice that still gets the job done with the resources available." (Careful with that one.)
    You should come up with at least a dozen variations on this theme and drop them causally to everyone, not just the PHBs. I was able to force out a PHB that constantly was changing my orders for software, services and equipment with careful documentation and a grass roots effort from classroom teachers.

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  51. Go to the school board/committee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Under your state's open meeting law, they should be allowing citizens to be present and be heard

  52. Since You're Already a Microsoft Shop by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 2

    You might consider exploring a campus agreement--some variants allow the sale of software at a super-steep discount (in recent years including OS) to students for use on their machines, so this might get you to a place where the machines could be manageable Pro or higher editions without major expense... Compliance would still be hard, but really we're at a point where you shouldn't be having "client" systems connect directly to the internal network, and should instead carefully manage their traffic and communicate content to students from the school on semi-private networks that don't have access to the live network. It isn't very difficult to conceive of configuring a VPN service onto that network in such a fashion as the clients couldn't communicate with the other clients, and only have access to the terminal servers you provide application services from...

    If students want access they need to login... Android, iPhone, and iPad all support VPN connections so it seems like a trivial inconvenience to protect all involved.

    It would also give you access to some very cheap pricing for the software you're probably already over-paying for.

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  53. He'll Need Another Job, Anyway by cmholm · · Score: 2

    @Joe_Dragon's suggestion re: informing the higher ups of Microsoft's licensing terms is good.

    If they ignore the advice, and El Fantasmo drops a dime on the district, he'll still need to anticipate looking for another job. Unless the written licensing memo makes it all the way up the chain, including the district superintendent and board (if any), there's probably going to be someone with firing authority to scapegoat IT if the resulting BSA audit ends up costing the district any money.

    I'm not surprised that the office responsible for the PO is getting you the lowest end crap they can find, it's a pre-Dilbert cliche.

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  54. The Sad State Of Educational I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Working for an I.T. contractor as a technician/for hire admin I have seen both ends of the spectrum. For example a school district was able to obtain over $100,000.00 in equipment and almost unlimited amounts of money for "contracted, non school district (government) provided services yet an hour away from that school district in the same state the situation was much what the original poster described. The problem is not only the district but the government that is responsible for ensuring kids in school have equal access to the same equipment (uniform). My only suggestion is to embrace the open source options to the fullest. There are options! For example if you can centralize your testing and educational platform to the web you can utilize a lightweight version of linux on minimum hardware to run a web browser to access those services. I think that it is sad that you would have to resort to the option above but it sounds like its your only hope. I can say that I have seen this work in other places with similar situations. It also never hurts to get the community involved. It suprised me how many companies/organizations tossed over thousands of dollars worth of equipment when the word got out that a school district could not afford a single computer let alone a whole class full.

  55. Be Part of The Bigger Solution by cmholm · · Score: 1

    I agree with the parent poster, your ideal option is to leave.

    That probably isn't your easiest option, naturally. You do have the option of making the best of your current job, while looking for other opportunities. If you're in a low performing district, I'd imagine you can get away with pushing the crap you get on down the supply chain, and playing the part of the BOFH when the users start bitching. Making sure to keep a solid email and written memo trail to CYA is excellent advice.

    Keep in mind that a low performing district is symptomatic of a poorly run organization. Wealth != superior IQ, and despite the challenges outside of school, the kids are capable of being taught, if the organization is willing to focus on it. Unfortunately, humans are susceptible to subconsciously writing off kids they assume are stupid. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to make the overall situation better. This leads directly to improvements in your situation.

    This involves the kind of grunt work our current President got a taste of when he first moved to Chicago, and can be a real PITA. Plug into the PTAs, the district board, talk to the teachers, etc. Get to know more about what makes your district tick, and then offer to be part of the solution. In a positive way, scratch other people's backs, and eventually you'll be able to suggest how they can help you.

    Consider that the core product your district is trying to deliver to students is sufficient mastery of the 3 Rs to be productive adults, and for a lucky few, a chance to not spin, crash, and burn during their first year in college. You may find that most teachers and staff consider any computers outside of the office staff to be a waste of resources, and in most cases, they won't be wrong. So, it may be that your best course is to help get the computers out of the classrooms, and focus on administrative IT. That also helps you get IT out from under the "asst. superintendent of curriculum and instruction", since the business rationale for that person's oversight is removed.

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  56. Why dont you quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the school districts money can be spent on educating children and not on useless toys (and your salary)

  57. Make It Work by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    How can this be reversed when you get commands like 'make it work'

    Those are magic words; be thankful. I'd love to hear stupid commands replaced with that.

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  58. Never heard of Free software? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Let me guess, the Op has never heard of Free software, BSD, Linux, Samba, Apache or Libre Office? Oh, well, let the ignorant maroon suffer then.

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    1. Re:Never heard of Free software? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, the Op has never heard of Free software, BSD, Linux, Samba, Apache or Libre Office? Oh, well, let the ignorant maroon suffer then.

      Let me guess, the OP has never had to support Free software, BSD, Linux, Samba, Apache or Libre Office before in a business environment.

      Oh, the irony of you blaming the OP for being ignorant...What's next, I suppose you going to point me in the direction of the spectacular support programs backing all this free software, because of course that couldn't possibly be one of the main reasons most FOSS packages never make it mainstream...

    2. Re:Never heard of Free software? by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up.

      The idea of a network administrator running from classroom to classroom, dealing with day to day issues (printer is empty, I forgot my password, I need this software installed, my computer isn't working...) is insane. Taking care of teachers in addition to students requires at least seven full-time seasoned IT people, for a school of 500. More if you want any decent performance / turn-around time / planning & integration of that technology. If you want to peel off 2 or 3 of them to teach the teachers the latest technology at a moment's notice (i.e. not during the summer, when the teachers are otherwise on trips and what not), you're down to 4 people manning the front-lines. What more, if / when technology issues arise, the teachers think you are doing it to them personally, so entire wars can erupt from not spending enough time politicking.

      So yes, Open Source is awesome if you are running a Data Center, or doing sh*t at home, or work for a company with several other programmers, or have a lot of free time. It's not so hot when the latest version of Ubuntu goes tits-up during a power-point presentation or video, and a teacher is trying to teach a class.

       

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    3. Re:Never heard of Free software? by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      Too many educational software applications will only run on MS Windows, and many of our administrators and staff are brand conscience. One admin refuses to use anything but HP printers because "they print better." We are running a mixed Linux/Windows server environment. I tried to get the district to switch to OpenOffice, but the Texas Education agency always sends out documents in the latest MS Office format. I suppose because I didn't mention I brush my teeth, that I've never heard of a toothbrush.

  59. Rattle from the top end of the food chain by sensationull · · Score: 1

    Write up a few examples of stupidity that ends up wasting more money than it saves, ie cheap laptops, inkjets in every room etc. Send this to the people at the top end of handling the money along with an estimate of how much it is costing and what issues is is and will cause. Hopefully when seen in dollars and sense ( :) ) they will step in and give you the mandate to fix the issues.

    Also check out this site: www.edugeek.net for experiences and advice from lots of other school techs.

    Having worked in this environment if the above options don't work for you and being forced to do a substandard job annoys you, your best bet is to simply leave. Some people are simply too stupid for their own good and its not worth the stress trying and failing to fix their decisions afterwards.

  60. There is a correlation between . . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the first line in your post " . . . for a small, economically shaky, low performing school district." and the last line " . . . when you get commands like 'make it work' and the budget is effectively $0?".

    To coin a phrase "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? "

  61. Three choices by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    You have the same three choices everyone who has ever been in your position has:

    1. You can quit.

    2. You can blow the whistle.

    3. You can do an incompetent job as directed.

    What's your pleasure?

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  62. OP Thanks and Carification by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

    Thanks for all the comments.

    No, funds are being misappropriated yet, just poorly spent.

    e.g.
    Admin: Why are so many of our teacher computers 5-8 years old and so slow?
    IT: Because we only have enough money to replace ~50 computers a year (out of about 1000), and you said student workstations were a priority.
    Admin: OK, we'll get the grant writer on it.
    A grant for ~$60,000 comes in and is spent on a grant manager, aid, new software, consumables and a 10 station lab with custom software and furniture.

    OR

    Admin: Why doesn't the school district have wi-fi ANYWHERE?
    IT: Because when we budgeted for it, you cut our budget by 25%/$120,000 (Texas educational budget cuts) and wi-fi got the ax along with a new server, student email address security cameras..., because we HAVE to have a firewall, internet service, anti-virus, student management and reporting software (contractual payments), 3 technicians, EMERGENCY repair and service funds...
    Admin: OK, that's understandable. We're going to borrow $5000 dollars for ~12 touchscreen tablets for administrators and principals and make you pay for cellular internet service for all of them until we get wi-fi. Can't we just plug in Best Buy wireless switches in a bunch of class rooms?

    OR

    They start buying SMARTBoards, Infocus machines and Elmos (interactive whiteboards, projectors and document cameras). They mostly become $2500 overhead projectors, and they refused to budget for replacement bulbs.

    They demand the quality IT resources of MUCH wealthier schools, on a small and declining budget. The powers that be, mostly, only give to the IT budget what the state says they must.

    No, we're not running active directory, yet. We've been trying for 3+ years, but admin doesn't see the value in it, despite being told it is the only way to automate or implement specific requests. They buy educational software and then ask why they have to manually add students; the software only integrates with active directory.

    The IT boss refuses to specifically pitch/sell necessary upgrades to his superiors because "we don't have the money."

  63. Re:the "right" way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using the tools that MS provides. For example, Microsoft Deployment Toolkit and setting up automated installation images. For a one off you could fall back to the simpler Win7 Repair Disc and an image on a DVD-9 or portable HDD. For my home machines I have an image on a DVD-9 and use the repair disc, and 10 minutes later I have a working base Win7 install with all of my drivers installed, basic Windows preferences set, and updates installed (up to when I did the image). It's really a much cleaner process than Ghost.

    That said, I worked as an A/V tech at MS TechReady, and was very amused to see the IT guys setting up the computers in the lobby for MS employee use using Ghost still...

  64. One word... policy by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Do whatever you can to get a policy initiative rolling. Draft it to specify, as far as possible, the "right way" to do things. Cite regulatory compliance, best practices, etc. wherever possible to support your policies as you work through the process of drafting and adopting. Make sure that everyone involved is as "on-board" and informed as you can make them. Once you have "the policy" to refer to, you have a tremendously powerful response to the idiot in purchasing who insists on doing stupid things like buying Windows 7 Home laptops that can't be properly managed. Seriously. "The Policy" carries far more weight than the words of the lowly IT guy, even if he's the one who actually wrote it. Part of this is psychological, but just as much is the fact that it's the standard that the institution has formally adopted as the right way to do things. Doing otherwise has (or should have) very clear consequences.

    1. Re:One word... policy by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

      That's the problem there is no policy support. If you complain high enough, a call gets made to make you an exemption. No one want's to embarrass anyone or stand up to anyone AFTER incorrect/improper technology decisions have been made. So, the burden get's put on the IT department to find a way to make it work, like spending unbudgeted money from IT on command of higher ups.

  65. Re:Accountability, connecting perception to realit by El+Fantasmo · · Score: 1

    The assistant superintendent refuses to run or look at reports from the help desk. One of the techs fills out a paper form each week with a basic outline of what they did, because the boss's boss wants to keep a record of what she does.

    Teachers bitch and moan because we started forcing their computers to sleep and require a password to resume from stand-by after 30 minutes. "Dr. XXXX I can't do my job because I have to type in a password because I left my computer alone too long." "My students are too dumb to type in stand-by passwords, it's effecting their learning time."

  66. take the initiative and see how it pans out by smash · · Score: 1

    In situations like this, the problem is ignorance of management to the costs and issues involved. Done properly, you can have machines that are standardised, running the correct OS, and costing less than generic individual PC/license purchases.

    Rather than simply bitch about it, work towards fixing the problem. Engage Dell/HP (or put the requirements out to tender with a bunch of them) or another large OEM, and run them through the number of PCs you have, and come up with a plan to depreciate them over 3-5 yrs (get extended warranty). Dell/HP will likely be able to give you bulk discount pricing of significantly less than RRP - like 25-50% off retail. Discuss your licensing options - being an educational institution, you should be able to get the correct software licenses for less than the cost purchasing individual licenses - and because they're perpetual "per head" or "per machine" licenses, you don't need to buy new ones every time you get a new PC - you simply pay for the count in use on an annual basis, which will save you money.

    I work for a company that had been doing licensing the "dumb" way before, and we ended up getting a better selection of software, proper enterprise support and annual per-head licensing for less than the cost of buying individual machines with OEM licenses. And thats with no EDU discount.

    Once you've got some numbers and a plan together, pitch it to management - ideally with a couple of suits from Dell/HP/MS at a meeting for your IT requirements.

    I"m guessing you're fairly young - all this coming from some fresh out of uni kid will not get much respect, but if you have suits from Dell/HP/MS on board and saying the same thing, your opinion will have a bit more validation behind it.

    If management are still not on board with the idea, leave. There's no hope, and you don't want to be stuck in a dead end job with no budget and thus no exposure to proper IT tools and procedures. It will do bad things for your career. At least you'll be able to say you tried.

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    I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
  67. IT In Education, what a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to IT in education, where idiots make stupid decisions and then want you to clean up afterwards. Oh and its your fault it happened because you are the IT guy

  68. Remove all apple hardware/software to save money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My company just removed 4,000 apple products (ipad, macbooks, iphone's) from the San Diego Unified School District campuses and fired 2 "mac specialists". We saved the district $110k/year on the two un-needed employees and by replacing the mac equipment with superior windows and android devices along with enterprise support contracts, we saved the district an additional $100k. The district has standardized on windows pro and a certain hardware set along with android phone support only. You need to quit your job if the school district you work for does not consult IT first. The SDUSD went with an outside consultant as there was internal disagreement (i.e. mac vs. pc) so after 4 various consultants recommended removing all apple equipment and banning purchasing apple in the future, our bid was accepted and we completed the cleanup of their mixed system.

  69. debian-edu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I run a small school IT dept. In fact I am the IT dept. Plus I teach almost full time. And my annual software budget is zero. This is all made possible by the fantastic debian-edu.
    The only thing I need money for is hardware, which lasts for decades if you use thin clients. I wouldn't hesitate to reformat those windows laptops and watch them fly with debian. (They will integrate properly into the ldap domain of course, which is already configured for you)

  70. K12 Education? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For K12 Education the IT policy would require the removal of the main ethernet cable feed coming in. K12 kids, don't need internet, software, or hardware. They need paper books, paper, and pencil, maybe a trumpet, drum, flute, or other instrument. They need their parents to put a fucking stop to government agent's replacing home packed lunches with chicken nuggets at the school. You want a generation of pussy ass braindead motherfuckers, continue to let this happen. Take your fucking vaccines, HFCS/GMO, and drink flouride water and shut the fuck up if you DONT CARE..

    No school had internet access back in the 60's and 70's. This is the time where kids should be studying math, doing science, building telegraphs out of coffee cans, flying kites, and playing football, baseball, soccer, not getting fat in front of a computer eating this shitty HFCS/GMO shit, all while being brainwashed into the K-12 Climate Education Project. (Payments to David Wojick for K-12 Global Warming Lesson Plan modules) instead of being taught the US Constitution and Bill Of Rights.

    By the end of this false science brainwash lesson, students will:
    1. Form definitions of the greenhouse effect based on prior knowledge, class discussion, and viewing diagrams.
    2. Participate in group brainstorming sessions and class discussions related to the impact of the greenhouse effect and global warming.
    3. Analyze global warming diagrams and resources to obtain a clear understanding of this scientific process.
    4. Hypothesize about the effects of global warming on the climate and the world's populations.
    5. Conduct research using a variety of primary sources to explore perspectives in the global warming debate.
    6. Complete a Venn Diagram that compares various points of view on global warming issues.
    7. Take a position on global warming and support this viewpoint with reasons, facts, and examples gathered during lesson activities.
    8. Create a project that supports their point of view about global warming issues.

    Related National Standards These standards are drawn from "Content Knowledge," a compilation of content standards and benchmarks for K-12 curriculum by McRel (Mid-continent Research for Education and Learning), at http://www.mcrel.org/standards-benchmarks/.
    Science
    Standard 1: Understands atmospheric processes and the water cycle.
    Geography
    Standard 8: Understands the characteristics of ecosystems on Earth's surface.
    Standard 14: Understands how human actions modify the physical environment.
    Standard 16: Understands the changes that occur in the meaning, use, and distribution and importance of resources.
    Standard 18: Understands global development and environmental issues.

    Sources.
    http://www.pbs.org/now/classroom/global-warming-lesson-plan.pdf
    http://cryptome.org/2012/01/heartland-docs.pdf

  71. IT & Student Achievement by lionchild · · Score: 1

    You need to align what you're doing in IT, to student achievement. If what you're doing improves student achievement, then it'll be very hard to say 'no' to letting you do your job. When going around you doesn't improve student achievement, or improves it less than the way you do it, they'll realize they need to let you do your job. Public Schools are about student achievement, first and foremost.

    Depending on what state you're in, Public Schools have to go out to bid on any signifigant purchase. If they're buying ones and twos of computers, they can effectively bypass you. However, if you take your budget and go out to bid, or piggy-back on another state contract to define where your equipment comes from, then you can lock-in where (and what) equipment can be purchased. If you're in a Western State, you should take advantage of WSCA (http://www.aboutwsca.org) for pricing that's about as low as you can go and is likely pennies over cost.

    If you're under the cirriculum side of the house, you should get out in front of teachers and show them how to use technology. Teach them how to use their clickers to get instant feedback from students to insure they understand concepts. Teach them how to use Air-Liners and Promethean boards to provide highly effective instruction. When you impact Student Achievement with tools like that, you become an invaluable resource and they'll start coming to you for advice.

    If you're floundering still, make trips to surrounding school districts, meet with their IT directors and see how they do things, see what they do that improves student achievement. Take the assistant Superintendent with you. When you see good ideas, replicate them at home; don't re-invent the wheel. Take the good ideas and make them your own.

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  72. F Techsoup look for off lease PCs by malignant_minded · · Score: 1

    Anonymous is correct, schools are not eligible for Microsoft licensing along with almost every other vendor on Techsoup which really makes it useless for only the smallest of qualifying 501 c 3s. http://www.techsoup.org/stock/restrictions.asp#ms

    Organizations that are not eligible: Not all 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations are eligible for participation in the Microsoft Donation Program. Those that are not eligible should visit Microsoft Volume Licensing for Industries for more information about charity licensing; they may still be eligible for discounted software from Microsoft. The following types of organizations are ineligible for Microsoft software donations:
    Governmental organizations or agencies.
    Educational institutions, including K-12 schools, colleges, universities, and trade schools. ...


    I would suggest looking for a place that sells off lease PCs that come with Win7 Pro COAs you can find PCs with 3Gig of memory for $200 USD. There are a bunch of places that specialize in selling off leases to schools only and some have lifetime warranties - lifetime meaning for as long as you own it. They just keep gutting PCs and new ones are always coming in for them.

    1. Re:F Techsoup look for off lease PCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The goverment will give you free PC's ... look at the Computers for Learning program from Department of Defense... I'm the IT director for a small school district and we get some stuff from them. We have a pretty decent IT budget, however my buddy is the IT director at a small private K-8 school with no budget and a "make it work attitude" and he gets virtually all his equipment from them. We both also employ large amounts of open source software. If you know where to look you can get most of the hardware you need for free or cheap and everything you need for eduation can be done with open source.

      Some open source stuff to look at to make your life easier...
      FOG -- FOSS Imaging Solution
      pfSense -- bsd based routing distro
      Debian -- preseed scripts and a local mirror can give you hardware independant automated installs
      openDNS -- Free content filtering
      icinga/nagios --- Network monitoring
      postfix/dovecot/rouncube -- what we use for mail along with ldap auth against or AD domain

      You can you do your job well with a near Zero Dollar budget you but it will require you to be creative...

  73. From someone who's been there. by ilfastpitch · · Score: 1

    Microsoft has a new licensing program for K12 public schools that is based on FTE. Dirt cheap. Not as cheap as free linux, but if you are more comfortable with MS, then it is a rather cheap fix. Point out that the common core standards is on the way and all of those tests are online. 4 times a year. Your 4th graders will need to be able to type! http://www.corestandards.org/ What is your student information system? What does it run on? What about a website for your school? Have you looked at purchasing refurbished computer? Some vendors will be able to sell you 1 or 2 year old desktops with a 5 year warranty. Use FOG for imaging your systems (http://www.fogproject.org/), or if you are able to get the ESS licensing based on FTE from MS, you can use their software. Technology doesn't fix education, and should never be looked upon as a quick fix. It can only assist good teachers provide a better educational environment or it can really F-things up.

  74. Possible idea by pswPhD · · Score: 1

    If your school is a 'poor' or 'under preforming' school, it may be worth asking local business' if they are willing to donate some of their older machines. These won't be fantastic, and they probably won't come with hard drives, but may still be useful for the school. I work in academia, and mentioned at a conference that our old computer cluster had died and wasn't worth resurrecting. At which point we were offered some old second hand gear- provided we recycle it when we're done (which is standard university policy anyway).

  75. Good guy Microsoft. by zerofoo · · Score: 1

    I work for a small private school. Microsoft damn near gives their software away to non-profits and schools. If you have hardware running the wrong version of Windows, Microsoft will most likely upgrade you for free.

    Go here and do a bit of research:

    http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/community-tools/nonprofits/

    Put together a request and send it to Microsoft. You may be surprised at the response. Microsoft's business strategies have been less than nice in the past, but I can not fault how well they treat schools and non-profits.

    -ted

  76. Start with policy by Zxeses · · Score: 1

    You handle these things by superintendent and board policies, and then use disciplinary actions against employees who violate the policy.

    You do have a long battle to get around a poorly educated "educator" like your Vice Super. A high level director is the hardest person in the world to change.

  77. Advertisement by lwriemen · · Score: 1

    I fail to see how this post addresses anything in the OP's submission. ???

  78. Been there, doing that by Mekissa001 · · Score: 1
    I feel your pain, really. Before anything else, you need to document. Document everything. Any conversation, email, phone call that you have. You need a good IT system that links inventory to tickets. You need DATA. Schools are highly data-driven. Look at Spiceworks, it's free.

    Ask for a copy of the IT budget for planning purposes. Make a beautiful plan of systems replacment cycles, infrastructure needs, projected costs, etc. Make a 5-year plan for your technology. Show it to *everyone*.

    Make policies & procedures. Don't add a lot of crazy ramblings or jargon, keep it plain and simple. Show that to everyone too, and hopefully someone at the top will help make it official board-approved policy. Make a nice presentation about how your policies will reduce labor costs and increase hardware life. In education, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You also need to talk about how these changes will make things simpler for the teachers. Find model schools out there that have done great things with technology, and get copies of their policies, their student:device ratios, and their device:IT ratios. Talk with your state DOE, get on any mailing lists or Google Groups for school IT staff in your state/region. Isn't one? Start it! Just cold-call other schools and talk to their IT departments. Yes, I'm serious; most good school techs are highly collaborative.

    And if you can't change policy, then you need to find a way to make this mish-mash work. Consider desktop virtualization -- whatever junk they buy becomes a terminal. And how about using the health insurance policy model? You get the terminal we buy for you, or you get a $500 bonus check every 5 years to buy your own non-supported personal device to run the virtual desktop.

  79. Re:Accountability, connecting perception to realit by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    Is your IT department *just* a help desk?

  80. Sense of privilege by phorm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having previously worked in several educational settings, I'd have to say that teachers (and more-so school admins) are often some of the most self-entitled irresponsible clients you could have in IT.

    It's not necessarily that the IT dept sucks, but rather that the staff get in their mind that they want something right now and must have it - standards/rules be damned - and that they know better than any slob in the IT department.

    To them, there's no reason why they can't go buy the cheapest laptop possible and then have IT get it to work on the school network (despite lacking PXE or fitting into the standard imaging scheme) with all the standard software.
    Alternately, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to go out and buy a bunch of Macs in a PC environment (or PC's in a Mac environment).
    There's no reason not to share out their password with the class to install software X... after all why should the class wait for IT to vet+install software that they decided yesterday is absolutely necessary.

    You can't tell them they're wrong, because they're educators. They're used to telling students what's correct, so how dare some lowly IT peon tell them they're wrong.

    *Disclaimer: I have worked in 3 school districts as well as various other public/private entities not related to education. The above reflects many of my experiences with teachers. Not *all* teachers are like this - more are not - and happily the newer generations of teachers seem to be less self-entitled. However, even a few rogues can certainly make an IT Dept's life miserable, and generally detracts from the quality a district receives overall due to IT being tied up fixing their crud. I don't see as much of this in non-educational settings, possibly because a rogue employee is an expense.

    1. Re:Sense of privilege by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

  81. "Low-performing" is the key phrase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based on that, my feeling is that the OP is working in a black and/or hispanic school, and either that's the whole district, with very, very low property values, or it's part of a larger district, but in a "bad" neighborhood, with the result it's being discriminated against.

    Think this doesn't happen, slashdotters? In the late nineties, my son was enrolled in Sullivan High School in Chicago. A friend who'd gone there back in the sixties told me it used to be one of the best in the city; now, that part of the neighborhood is, shall we say, "less good", and I have no question whatever that at least the most recent Mayor Daley and his school board chairman were discriminating; for example, they had *one*, count them, "computer course". I would be willing to go on a witness stand, in court, under oath, as an expert witness, with a decades long career and a B.Sc., and testify that they had NO "computer class", they had a commercial typing class (weeks learning touch typing?).

    Meanwhile, in a tiny town in VA, which had a reasonably well-funded single HS, two of my daughters had not only computer classes, but one took AP classes in programming and databases.

    I think the answer for the OP is not merely to write standards for hardware and software, and present them as a fait accompli to the management, but to sign up at least some parents, and any civil rights organizations, to go to school board meetings, stand up, and tell them to their faces that this is discrimination, and that "poor performing" schools need more hardware and software budgets than the "higher performing" ones.

    Time for real pushback, guy.

                                    mark

  82. Some Thoughts by Blue+Cafe · · Score: 1

    I work in IT for a K-12 School District as well, under much the same conditions. What we have found is that standardization is the key to getting a handle on cost. We had to sell this however, and did so through the use of an analysis of the cost of standardization versus the cost of non-standardization. To do this, you must be able to explain the total cost of ownership over the lifespan of the computer. Often times what seems like a great bargain ends up costing far more in the end, because people take the internal cost for maintenance for granted and don't include it in the overall cost of the computing resource.

    Total Cost of Ownership

    A 2008 study by the Gartner Group determined that a $1,200 dollar PC could have a 4-year TCO as high as $5,867 per year. However properly locking down and managing the computer could cut that by as much as 42% or $3,413.

    Rick Kaestner of the Consortium of School Networking (CoSN) has a wonderful presentation about TCO as well as a great tool to help determine what your TCO is. I would suggest running several current case scenarios and a best case scenario for comparison.

    While cookie cutters work in the school lunch room, it has been my experience that many school districts fail to draw a distinction between the needs of instructional and business portions of operations. There is really no "one size fits all" solutions. The single platform approach tends to fail in the face of specialized requirements so it is important from a cost-effectiveness standpoint to analyze these areas and group their requirements accordingly, then focus standardized environments that meet the needs of these groups.

    The Importance of Partnerships

    Districts are also somewhat myopic in how they construct purchasing agreements, often confusing the terms price and value. Inexpensive doesn't always mean valuable. As an example, one district I worked for determined that it wanted to lower the initial aquisition costs, and to that end produced and evaluated an RFP containing evaluation criteria focused primarily on initial cost. After awarding the contract and receiving the first batch of computers, the district became rapidly aware that they had an issue when 50% or more of the machines were dead-on-arrival, requiring additional time and expense to return. This affected the value over time portion of the TCO of this equipment and after much consernation, the district was forced at additional cost to rebid the equipment, modify the evaluation criteria and waste implementation time overturning the original decision.

    The lack of insight with initial aquisition costs led the district in the long run to changes its way of thinking and to embrace longer-term contracts, but even more importantly it became aware of the advantages of long term partnerships. Long term partnerships bring some intangible items into the equation such as the availability of higher end resources such as access to engineers, as well as assistance with integration and other things that are important to business. On the instructional side, many of the larger computer companies maintain divisions who specialize in working with K-12 environments. The bottom line is that it is important to get a handle on the big picture and to make as many people as possible aware of the current picture and give them of a vision of how things could improve. School districts tend to pay attention when someone says "I can save us money, get better service and have data to prove it."

  83. Best advice is still be assertive by Pollux · · Score: 1

    First, create a nice, succinct list of issues and consequences that will take you ~5 min to read off. Prepare it so that it's as simple and as concentrated as possible. You have legitimate concerns that NEED to be expressed.

    Then, assert your concerns to your director. If he doesn't listen, assert your concerns to his boss. If she doesn't listen, assert your concerns to the superintendent. If he doesn't listen, assert your concerns to the school board.

    You have every right to tell the asst sup that she needs to delete emails. If she chooses to order you around like some slave, tell her very plainly that IT policy has limits of 5 Gb, and that's the limit because Joe Taxpayer pays your district so that everyone can use the tech resources provided, not just one email hog. The school parking lot is fairly segmented so that everyone has a place to park. Each student has the same size locker so that everyone has an equal storage space. She's not exempt from school board policy, and she's not exempt from IT policy.

    And you have every right to tell everyone who has ears that, if the IT department does not have the right to manage IT, then IT will slowly fail, which will contribute to unreliable technology in the district, which will disrupt the learning environment, lower the moral of the students and staff, which contributes to declining enrollment. Declining enrollment is dollars walking out the door.

    But seriously, assert yourself. And if nobody chooses to listen, find another school or position.

  84. Some personal experience ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My local school district is similar: impoverished area, high immigrant population, low performance. The district is considered by its upstream "super district" to be the laughing stock within the state with respect to its IT infrastructure AND personnel(!). The IT department is populated by Microsoft bigots and taodies. Every system and function is provided in house is hosted on Windows platforms except those functions provided by the state. The systems provided by the state are all Windows hosted; this is Washington state after all. Open Source anything is strictly verboten. The result is excessive IT costs and shoddy systems and workmanship.

    The jerk in charge of IT whose official title is "Asstant Superintendent, Maintenance and Operations" (think: sticks and bricks, busses), a 20+year employee, a direct report to the new (2011) superintendent spent a fortune to convert from Windows XP to Windows 7 over the summer in 2011. He was considered "indispensable" because he was the only one who understood the network. Most, about 400 desktops and more than a few servers, except the most recently acquired computers, had to be replaced because they didn't have enough horsepower to run Windows 7. Outlook (or whatever its called these days) and Exchange Server, as well as web access to systems did not work until after the beginning of the school year. None, and I mean NONE, of the classroom printers in at least one school worked and had to be replaced because there were no drivers for them. A few of the larger print servers did work, but not all. Most of the scanners didn't work and had to be replaced, same problem. The jerk's answer (permanent!, not a transitional solution) was to command people to find a working scanner and use it. The district bought a few laptops for specific student applications, pre-installed with Windows 7; those laptops did not work when delivered and still do not work. The IT department "purged" the trouble ticketing system because "the backlog was too long"; rumor was 10,000 tickets(!). I'll leave it to your imagination to discern "Why". Spam to district employees runs unchecked. Malware infections are common; one took the whole district down for a week near the beginning of the school year. Replacement and new equipment orders, not just IT, were "lost" or altered (downgraded or downsized) for elementary school (high immigrant school) but all middle school and high school orders went through exactly as written. Unnecessary and expensive "multi-media" peripherals such a speaker "systems" and overhead projectors were acquired for most classrooms, some still do not work. A very expensive ($15,000+) multiple CD/DVD server (physical CDs & DVDs, full rack of drives!) was bought several (5 or more) years ago and still does not work; WTF(!) don't these people know about ISO images or does Windows not know about them? I still wonder if kickbacks were involved. -- This is just the tip of the iceberg. The list is long and brutal and is not expected to be resolved during this school year.

    There is good news, however, the jerk is reported to have been fired, high confidence in the report. Now, the superintendent needs to purge the entire IT department of the Windows bigots and get some real IT expertise to do the job.

    You may want to approach your problem from the same point of view: It's an HR problem, not a technical problem.

    JMHO, YMMV

  85. Hire Me As Your IT Consultant by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    You need a Grant to get done what you want to get done when there's no more buget in the catagorical funds.

  86. Best Practices, low budget, low performing, K-12 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try and find an angle that will let you use a phrase like:

    "I can't do that because that is illegal. If I get fired for not doing something illegal I can get another job, if I get fired for doing something illegal, I won't be able to work in my profession again, it is best for all of us if I don't do that."

    Smaller communities in more rural areas or that have been historically "isolated from the main-stream" (i.e. no one from there has gone to prison for white-collar crime recently) usually have developed all kinds of methods of funneling money to administrative pockets instead of to the intended resources.

    Here's another phrase that will get you some leverage if they are getting any grant money, "Hey, I saw in the news some people are going to Federal prison for abuse of their grant money, we aren't doing anything like that are we?" You will either get some cooperation or get snuffed, depending on the local culture.

    Document your requests, specifications, and comments and their responses, so you can show that a pattern exists or existed that prevented you from doing your job well, great stuff in a lawsuit if you get improperly terminated or do not get great recommendations during job hunting.

    I also like the line "I'm not doing that! The last time I got caught holding the bag is the last time I'll get caught holding the bag! It was 1 st Grade."

    Semper Vigilo
    audiendo et cognita

  87. Liveport by NewYork · · Score: 1

    I think http://www.liveport.com/ is the right solution for OP

  88. Leverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the asst super have any family members? Just saying........ :-)