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RapidShare Fighting Piracy By Slowing Download Speeds

An anonymous reader writes "File hosting sites have been under increased pressure since the shutdown of Megaupload — both from law enforcement and from the sudden influx of new users. RapidShare, already dealing with a reputation as a facilitator of piracy, has now instituted a policy they hope will drive pirates away: download speed caps for its free service. According to TorrentFreak, 'RapidShare says that there is a direct link between free users of file-hosting services and copyright infringement. Those who like to pirate prefer not to pay, the company believes, not least because they want to avoid connecting their personal payment details to a copyright-infringing cyberlocker account. Now, there will be those who say that however RapidShare dress it up, the company will be aware that the restrictions will drive users to their premium services to get better speeds. But interestingly RapidShare is now offering ways for users to get faster download speeds without paying a dime — providing those uploading the original files they’re trying to access do some work.'"

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  1. Alternative career for RapidShare execs by Compaqt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tightrope_walking

    Seems like they have experience.

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    1. Re:Alternative career for RapidShare execs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      RapidShare is in Switzerland. Unless their execs travel to New Zealand, they have nothing to fear.

    2. Re:Alternative career for RapidShare execs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mine was stolen right after I bought it. Who knows who the bastard was that used it? Always a work around

  2. nominal payment by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder then if requiring all users to pay a 10c charge would stop piracy completely for site such as this.

    1. Re:nominal payment by shish · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd still rather pay 10c for a fast and simple criminal service that treats me with respect than pay $20 for a legitimate fiddly DVD that treats me like a criminal... (also this)

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    2. Re:nominal payment by tripleevenfall · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But then their payment information is connected to piracy in a verifiable way, which would scare most of them off due to possible legal problems.

    3. Re:nominal payment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      where are these mythical $20 DVD's?

      Here. Pick one.

    4. Re:nominal payment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd still rather pay 10c for a fast and simple criminal service that treats me with respect than pay $10 for a legitimate fiddly DVD that treats me like a criminal.

    5. Re:nominal payment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those "mythical" $20 DVD's are what nearly any move that isn't at least a couple of years old costs retail. "Most are under $10" only applies to used and bargian-bin sales. But you already knew that.

    6. Re:nominal payment by fast+turtle · · Score: 2

      The only thing is, it's not the downloaders who are the infringers, it's those who uploaded the file to begin with and in the EU, that's the key difference. It's still legal to download files and at $0.10 I'd be quite willing to download any album I'm interested in as that would be far cheaper then Amazon/iTunes or any other Legitimate vendor because I don't give a rats ass if the label looses money or not. It's their fault for not providing things in a format I'm willing to pay for at a price I'm willing to pay - Tennent of a Free Market Economy and Capitalism.

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    7. Re:nominal payment by JudgeFurious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apart from the "loosing" I kind of see what he's saying. You constantly hear that it's the content owners right to charge whatever they want for the content and that's true but the reality of the situation is that nothing has value greater than what people are willing to pay for it. Someone may believe that their "whatever" is worth $12 but if nobody is willing to give them that then they're just mistaken. Most of the pirates (downloaders, not uploaders) I know (myself included) pay for their accounts without any concern for anonymity. They pay for the account for faster download speeds and the ability to download multiple parts at one time. I use iTunes as well and don't mind paying for what I want there but I buy songs, not albumes. Episodes, not seasons. Movies, when they're on sale. That I'm willing to pay something to download a file (albeit from someone other than the rightful owner or at a discounted price from a legitimate source) says that there is a price that the public is willing to pay. I just don't think that the content owners/creators are too excited at the new price point. They better adjust though because it's not going away.

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    8. Re:nominal payment by neonKow · · Score: 2

      The people that want tv and movies streaming via their computer are still in the minority.

      It's getting there... but the user base is not in place yet for a company to fully commit to it.

      I'm sorry, but it is complete bull. It's completely about making money. Maybe a decade ago it was hard to get things into an ondemand service, but now with iTunes and Hulu and Netflix all competing to get TV shows and movies up ASAP, the only thing delaying them is not a technical issue, but suppliers unwilling to cut into their current market on TV.

  3. eDonkey by Dave+Whiteside · · Score: 2

    has died then has it - I thought this was where all the kids get their dodgy stuff from ?

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  4. Cause if there's one thing non-pirate users want by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...its slower speeds. This should in no way chase away legitimate users leaving only the pirates who dont care if their copy of photoshop takes half a day to download while they're at work.

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  5. won't people just lie? by apcullen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like rapidshare is doing some CYA here. If you want better speeds, all you have to do is supply them with some cantact info-- fake will likely do-- and some information about the files being shared-- again fake will likely do. This way if they get raided, they can say "I didn't know that was a TV episode, they told me it was home videos".

  6. Re:Cause if there's one thing non-pirate users wan by djnforce9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes. Rapidshare is only driving away the "impatient" pirates. They are delaying the inevitable because ultimately, the works is still just as pirated regardless of how long it took to obtain.

    My guess is that they are either secretly hoping to boost premium sales (they would NOT get away with throttling paying customers) or to do "something" in order to prevent Megaupload's fate from repeating with them.

  7. the direct link by muuh-gnu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > there is a direct link between free users of file-hosting services and copyright infringement.

    There is also a direct link between internet users and copyright infringement. There is also a direct link between prople exchanging information and copyright infringement. And so on.

    Copyright is for-profit censorship. As soon as you have two people exchanging information, be it on the net, by pendrives, even exchanging books, as soon as you cut out the middlemen, it will probably be some kind of infringement.

    The problem with this, what they call infringement is _normal human behavior_ that shouldnt be infringement in the first place. As soon as people get together, they exchange information. Declaring parts of this information exchange somebody elses "property" and trying to censor it by basically spying on every information exchange between two people, is censorship straight from the darkest surveillance state nightmares. The worst case scanario. It is basically north korea, but not with respect to "political information" but with respect to "proprietary information". Censorship is censorship, whatever paltry excuse you can come up with for it.

    1. Re:the direct link by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is a direct link between eating High Fructose Corn Syrup and Murder.

      Every Murderer in the USA consumed HFCS at one point in his or her life.

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    2. Re:the direct link by mark-t · · Score: 2

      Copyright was created to help ensure steady profits from a published work

      This is incorrect. Copyright was created to give people incentive to publish in the first place, so that society could benefit from a continual influx of new published works.

      Sadly, this is not what many people think of copyright today.

  8. We're fighting piracy, honest! by Eil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has anyone in the history of the world ever paid for a RapidShare account to use it for downloading non-pirated content?

    These guys are no different than the ones who offered newsgroup access for X amount per month (and by the way, here are all these great tools for managing large binary downloads should you happen to need them).

    Rapidshare's business model has always been about making the free download option as obnoxious as humanly possible. "Pay us money and you can download this random file which may or may not be copyrighted at full speed instead of playing capcha games and waiting all day for your file to download and then have it stall at 98%" This is nothing new or unexpected.

    âoeRapidShare has been faced with a severe increase in free user traffic and unfortunately also in the amount of abuse of our service ever since, suggesting that quite a few copyright infringers have chosen RapidShare as their new hoster of choice for their illegal activities,â the company explained.

    IANAL, but that seems like a refreshing admission of legal liability for being willful accessories to copyright infringement.

    1. Re:We're fighting piracy, honest! by Xtifr · · Score: 2

      Do you know what "willful" means? The first definition is "said or done on purpose; deliberate". Which fits perfectly with PP's usage. You're probably thinking of the second definition ("obstinately bent on having one's own way"), but that's not the only, or even the most common, meaning.

      It's really funny (bordering on ironic) how many self-appointed "grammar nazis" are completely ignorant of polysemy, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of common English nouns and verbs display it. It's even funnier how many self-appointed grammar nazis can't be arsed to pick up a dictionary or reputable usage guide.

  9. Re:Simple solution by jandrese · · Score: 2

    Blocking by IP doesn't work so well if your customers have dynamic IP addresses. People on PPPoE (still quite common) can get a new IP address anytime they want. It's a bit harder for DHCP users, but still only takes a couple of hours typically.

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  10. Re:still fast enough by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry, no.

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  11. MAFIAA doesn't care by mounthood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does RapidShare think this will give them cover over piracy? The MAFIAA doesn't care; they're happy to burn down the Internet to protect their business.

    The MAFIAA also don't really care about piracy, despite all their noise about it. Their goal is to maintain high prices and the business model that they know and control. Piracy is just a means to manipulate the publics attitude and justify the use of extreme measures by the government. Which for RapidShare means that they can't win unless they become part of the establishment ... but Hollywood needs enemies to fight more then allies to share the wealth with.

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    1. Re:MAFIAA doesn't care by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bimbo Newton Crosby this is about control, especially to the RIAA. The future is video channels on the web and tours booked for a percentage instead of the frankly assraping and "Hollywood Accounting" that the record companies have been pulling and this scares the crap out of them. My oldest and his college buddies never listen to the radio, its all tube channels and internet streaming which gives unsigned and unknowns the same chance as everyone else to be heard and this scares the living hell out of them. Ultimately the MAFIAA want to turn the net into the home shopping network so they can go back to being the gatekeepers of exclusive content but frankly even film making with Machinima is getting damned good.

      Anybody see "Escape from city 17"? Frankly it was more exciting than the last 3 Hollywood boomfests IMHO and that was made on a shoestring budget. Hell one of the more interesting movies I've seen in awhile practically had a zero budget, wish i knew the name. maybe if I describe it somebody will chime in, it was about a party for a friend that was moving off and as the story progressed you found out the reason the guy was moving was because he was actually over 10,000 years old and had to leave before it got too obvious he didn't age.

      this is what scares the MAFIAA, that they won't be able to leech off of artists anymore like how they are screwing many 70s artists like Cheap trick by giving them NOTHING for digital sales, basically saying since it didn't exist when they signed in the 70s tough shit, or how Meatloaf went bankrupt fighting the studios who cliamed Bat out Of Hell I, the album with the record for longest stay in the top 200, actually didn't make a dime. Living close to Memphis I've seen kids sign and hand over an album the studios DIDN'T PAY SHIT FOR only to have the album sell 300,000 copies and get handed a BILL by the studios for "promotion expenses". The sooner that whole cabal DIAF the better.

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  12. Re:Anonymous payments by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or a prepaid credit card that can be picked up just about anywhere.

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  13. It's basically marketing BS. by makomk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At a guess, this is just marketing BS being used to disguise an attempt to get more paid users. Rapidshare have form in this area - they rebranded themselves the "Anti-Waiting Company" at the same time as increasing the amount of time free users have to wait for downloads and increasing their premium prices.

  14. Of, if you DON'T pick just new releases... by kiwimate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...you'll find a whole bunch of stuff well under $20. Two of the most popular releases from 2010 - The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (Two-Disc Special Edition) is $7.78 for the two-disc set and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 1 is $4.99. (In fact, it was that price even before December - I bought it as a Christmas present.) New releases are going to be more expensive - you can't blame a for-profit industry from trying to make a bit more money from those people who've gotta have stuff now and are willing to pay a premium instead of waiting six months, can you?

    I know people love to whine about how over-priced movies are, and how that justifies your piracy, but seriously, these are two block busters from 2010 for the price of a McDonald's meal. What's it going to take to stop you pirating this stuff?

    As I commented in a previous story, people are bringing this on themselves, and also ruining the internet for the innocent bystanders like me.

    1. Re:Of, if you DON'T pick just new releases... by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As I commented in a previous story [slashdot.org], people are bringing this on themselves, and also ruining the internet for the innocent bystanders like me.

      I guess it is perspective - I feel like people willing to feed the RIAA/MPAA infinite copyright machine are ruining the internet for innocent bystanders like me.

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    2. Re:Of, if you DON'T pick just new releases... by b0bby · · Score: 2

      What's it going to take to stop you pirating this stuff?

      A DRM free download at around that price. I don't want any more plastic discs hanging around, and I started buying mp3s when Amazon started selling them DRM free. If I could buy a nice mkv file of Harry Potter for $3-5 I'd do it, and so would a lot of other people. But a DRM locked copy from itunes costs $10-15, at least twice the cost of the DVD!

    3. Re:Of, if you DON'T pick just new releases... by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 2

      I know people love to whine about how over-priced movies are, and how that justifies your piracy, but seriously, these are two block busters from 2010 for the price of a McDonald's meal. What's it going to take to stop you pirating this stuff?

      I don't actually "pirate stuff" hardly at all, but do you want the real answer?

      The first thing to understand is that different people turn to piracy for different reasons. The one you're ostensibly arguing against is this one. And that is the reason why your argument fails: The problem is not "DVDs should be $10." The problem is that a legitimate copy of a sufficiently recent show or movie is not available. Not for $10, not for $20, not for $50. And by the time it is available on DVD, $20 is no longer an attractive price because you've already seen the content (one way or another) and it frequently isn't worth $20 to buy something old that you've already seen.

      But there is an implicit assumption in your argument that bears pointing out: Even if you improve the attractiveness of legitimate offerings, that will never "stop" piracy, because people turn to piracy for different reasons. What it will do is increase revenues, because you do convert the subset of pirates who turn to piracy because of a lack of attractive legitimate offerings, in exactly the same way that iTunes did for music and substantially reduced music piracy.

      But it won't stop people who turn to piracy for reasons other than lack of legitimate availability. There is a large subset of pirates who do it because they consider "fuck the MPAA" to be a public service. If you want to convert those people, you have to adopt a strategy that targets them -- like the MPAA publicly (and in actual fact) abandoning its lobbying campaign to enact legislation and treaties that support DRM and impinge civil liberties.

    4. Re:Of, if you DON'T pick just new releases... by oldmac31310 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I strongly disagree with your use of the word 'meal' to describe MacDonald's food product.

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  15. Re:Cause if there's one thing non-pirate users wan by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They can put whatever positive, law-cooperating spin on it that they want, but the real reason is simply that Rapidshare no longer has any competition to drive up their free download speeds.

    Their single largest competitor (Megaupload) just dropped off the map and all their other competitors have either blocked the US or dropped any free support whatsoever.

  16. Re:TANSTAFFL by davidwr · · Score: 2

    1MB unthrottled: How fast are the Intertubes today? Probably 3 seconds for most users.

    1MB at 100KB/sec = 10 seconds. That 7 seconds is enough to be annoying but not painful.

    1MB at 30Kbits/sec (less than 4 KB/sec) as RapidShare is doing now = 4-5 minutes. 4-5 minutes per MB is painful, or perhaps nostalgic.

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  17. Heh by lightknight · · Score: 2

    And in other news, the MPAA is fighting piracy by releasing movies that aren't worth copying, thus destroying piracy at the source.

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