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Anonymous, Decentralized and Uncensored File-Sharing Is Booming
PatPending writes with this excerpt from TorrentFreak:
"The RetroShare network allows people to create a private and encrypted file-sharing network. Users add friends by exchanging PGP certificates with people they trust. All the communication is encrypted using OpenSSL and files that are downloaded from strangers always go through a trusted friend. In other words, it's a true Darknet and virtually impossible to monitor by outsiders. RetroShare founder DrBob told us that while the software has been around since 2006, all of a sudden there's been a surge in downloads. 'The interest in RetroShare has massively shot up over the last two months,' he said."
Let the games...continue.
Clamp down on torrents, clamp down on file sharing sites, what do you expect? People to meekly give up sharing files?
It only takes one person to write a darknet program like this and the game is back on.
It sounds a lot like a program I'd considered writing before and if done right it's basically impossible to shut down, or compromise effectively, without severely screwing up the internet. Which is probably the next step.
A true darknet would not depend on traditiona DNS (root servers). I can't immediately tell from their FAQ if their methods are entirely independent of DNS.
Freenet has been around that long hasn't it?
Verifiability via PGP vs Anonymity: of course you can't have it both ways -- that's how PGP works. From the project FAQ http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Is_RetroShare_anonymous.3F
Is RetroShare anonymous?
RetroShare is partly anonymous. There are anonymous forums and channels where no one can tell who posted something and you can download files from people your are not connected to anonymously, using anonymous tunnels. However the people you are connected to, know who you are and know your IP address. They can also see which files you are sharing, unless you mark them as not browsable. No one else on the network can see this information.
The friends of your peers also know of your existence, and can attempt to connect to you through the Auto-Discovery system, but they can't connect to you unless you add them as friends.
"...files that are downloaded from strangers always go through a trusted friend."
Doesn't that just make the "friend" instantly liable for contributory infringement? It's going to be hard (impossible)? for the "friend" to qualify for "common carrier" status, which could provide a safe harbor against an infringement suit.
It's true that this setup appears to be resistant to monitoring by outsiders, but keeping the people you don't want as members out of your online network is difficult, to say the least. It's certainly more work than busting up torrenters, but it's not exactly a difficult barrier either.
And, if I'm providing files, I want files downloaded TO strangers to go through one of my trusted friends (of course, that friend is going to have the contributory infringement problems I suggested earlier.) I don't give a *bleep!* about the downloader covering his tracks, (And when has the xxAA gone after downloaders? Don't they always go after uploaders?) I'm more worried about mine.
Yeah, it's the most overrated book in geekdom, IMHO. Don't understand all the love it gets around here.
It read like Doctorow was whcking off under the table with his free hand while he typed it with the other. The main character was a mary-sue par excellence an, well, I just didn't think it was that good.
If you are being monitored the police/... can still see who you are talking to even if they can't understand what you are saying. OK: if messages are routed through a friend to some other ''accomplice'' it makes things a bit harder for them, but most private networks like this will not have huge numbers of people on them. Also you can learn a lot just by studying the timings of packets (eg: a packet from A to B is often followed by a similarly sized packet from B to C, it looks as if A is talking to C).
It's the first time I've ever seen any attempt at copyright protection that didn't resulted in worse outcome for their customers! For example...
. Funny sectors on floppy disks. Legitimate users can't make backup copies, pirates (with the copy protection removed) can make all the copies they want.
. "Find the nth word in the nth paragraph on the nth page of the manual". Legitimate users have to dig up the manual every time they want to play a game, while pirates (with the copy protection removed) can play any time they want without such annoyances
. Parallel port dongles. Legitimate users have to muck around with parallel port dongles that interfere with their printer. Pirates don't.
. Funny sectors on CDROM's. As per floppy disks, but it turns out that some CDROM drives couldn't play the games at all (RA2? or was it C&C2?). Pirates have no such problems
. Phone home via internet every time you want to play?... you see where this is going
It seems like every time the software industry introduces a new copy protection scheme, it really only annoys their paying customers. It doesn't hinder the pirates one little bit.
But it is still way faster than going to a real store, buying it and playing it. Especially if you are on a budget.
But on the other hand now it seems that the software industry has put enough pressure on the illegal file sharers that doing it that way is harder, or at least slower than it was. If the software industry allowed you to download the game direct from them for a reasonable price, they might be in with a chance. We all know they'll still continue to screw it up though.
Private darknets are a step backwards, IMO. At the one end you could have a large number of small networks between people who trust each other very well, but are limited in the size of the shared pool of material. At the other end you have less trusted large networks with a more material, but still nowhere near as large the entire internet, thus you would often not be able to find what you want. And the larger a network is, the less you are likely to trust everyone on it and the more vulnerable it is to infiltration. Even a small network could be compromised by someone who decided to betray all of their 'friends' (not necessarily out of malice).
'Breaking into the scene' of private darknets is diffcult for anyone who doesn't have pre-existing, probably real-world contacts (much like having ready access to good drugs, it might be easy for kids in a college environment, not so much for your average person). And at the end of the day, if you are going to limit your file sharing activities with a few people you know, you might as well just use email.
For a true culture of free information exchange, we need to look to systems that anyone with a connection and the right software can access and preferably search. This is far more technically challenging, and due to the measures taken to preserve anonymity, usually less convenient than what we are currently used to. But this will improve in due course. Tor, Freenet, I2P and others like them are the future, not walled gardens.
But on the other hand now it seems that the software industry has put enough pressure on the illegal file sharers that doing it that way is harder, or at least slower than it was.
This is a myth being propagated by MPAA & RIAA. As someone who's been around since the days of Hotline & IRC sharing, if anything, it's easier these days than before. Torrents are fast & there's not much you can't get from ISOHunt or TPB or the likes.
The serial-auth on ut2k4 was *almost* able to function with no negative effects for legitimate customers. Almost. There was but one flaw: The demand for legitimate serials for pirate use grew so great that some people wrote trojans for the express purpose of stealing the serials from those who actually purchased the game, resulting in the banning of many legal users after their serials were taken.
I've never read it, but there is a class of books where characterisation is severely neglected yet the book is still good because it shows an excellent setting. The characters are really just a narrative tour guide.
Retroshare itself may not require any centralized resource at all, but... how do you find like-minded friends in the first place and establish a web of trust? You're going to need a centralized forum/chatroom, aren't you, where you can meet people and identify those with common interests and focus? Retroshare simply shifts the focus of the centralized resource from the actual sharing of data to the social aspect of creating and maintaining that web of trust.
And apparently all it would take, as hinted by someone else here, is one traitorous bastard in your web of trust to lay the whole thing out bare for the exploitation by others with selfish motives.
Try a media tank like the WDTV or an NBox HD and your wife will change her tune REAL quick friend. Having ALL the movies and shows she likes at a press of a button, no messing around with discs? Priceless. This is why the current MPAA crap is so pathetic, as its holding back innovation. there is no damned reason why i shouldn't be able to just hop on Amazon and whip out a CC and get an .avi or .mkv file of whatever show or movie i just bought other than sheer stupidity. does it in ANY way hinder the pirates? Fuck no, they have the movie or show at release if not before in their choice of formats. Look at any torrent or emule search engine and you can have your choice in .avi or .mkv in every popular resolution from standard 700Mb DVD rips all the way up to 8Gb+ Bluray HD rips, no hassle. All you can get legit is a big pile o' DRM suck that makes you jump through hoops and won't work on a single media tank short of a full blown HTPC.
So trust me friend, try a media tank. To get your feet wet on the cheap I'd suggest an NBox HD (less than $60 most places) along with a 200Gb SATA or IDE drive with a $5 enclosure (If you're like most geeks you have some drives lying around and the enclosure is less than $10) and hook it up to the TV in the bedroom or den and watch how quickly she warms to having it all at her fingertips. Makes a great gift for older relatives too,and for those with kids they are a Godsend as you don't have to worry about little Suzy scratching her favorite Dora disc anymore.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
I actually prefer store bought media material - known format, quality assurance & convenience. It takes me less time to find it in the store (hell even ask the staff) to get it than trawl through spam, traps, seo bullshit & so on. However availability is an issue - 'net has almost everything, stores not so much. Unless you want to order and wait, even then.
This availability factor can be a great annoyance. I discovered several years ago that the Dreaded P.D.Q. Bach Collection [*] was not available from any store in Finland, and that furthermore the stores within reach said they could not even order it. I ended up ordering it from Amazon UK, which involved waiting weeks and paying their shipping fees.
[*] I use the third movement of the Pervertimento for bagpipe, bicycle, and balloons from disk 2 as the primary ringtone on my phone. The third movement is mostly bagpipe and string quartet, and is rather attention-getting, in its own way.
Also the WAF (wife acceptance factor) who very much likes dropping the disk in the home cinema drive and doesn't like computers.
All of our CDs and BDs and most of our DVDs have been ripped to the media server. It's even easier to use than dropping disks in the home theater.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Web of trust models will only work where there is an incentive to keep people out of the network. In the P2P world its just exactly the opposite. Users want as many other users on the network as possible because it speeds up their transfers and increases the amount of available content. You could use web of trust for something like e-mail where users generally want to prevent spoofs, scams, and spam.
I realize that users of P2P networks want to keep *some* people (FBI,Secret Service,DOJ,Interpol,[M,R]P?IAA employees ) off but for the most part they want users on. The next problem is you have the lowest common denominator issues. Again you want it to be simple enough that everyone and anyone can use it so you have content selection but that also means you get the same idiots who are still providing the account and routing numbers to 419 spammers. All mister federal agent needs to is promise to upload tons of free porn and John HighSchool is going to cross sign his PGP key.
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At a glance, I don't see any hashes to validate the source files that are being downloaded.
If I were the Feds (of any country) or anyone who wants to inject malware (ie the recent Anonymous trojan), I'd replace the installers or redirect when people go to get source files or updates.
blindly antisocialist = antisocial
There are countries (France, afaiu) where encryption is illegal without a "licence".
So while many comments here say you simply can't ban encryption without banning safe commerce, that's not so true. The government simply makes using encryption require a license and said commerce sites get a license and commerce and advertising continues. Joe Average User doesn't get a license, and when he does use encryption (with another unlicensed party), they go to jail.
The one sticking point that I have never understood about such a situation though is that the government must also ban sending "garbage/random data" between two parties, otherwise how does it determine when two parties are using encryption and when they are just catting /dev/random to each other?
This is a myth being propagated by MPAA & RIAA. As someone who's been around since the days of Hotline & IRC sharing, if anything, it's easier these days than before. Torrents are fast & there's not much you can't get from ISOHunt or TPB or the likes.
Pretty much this. I've been trading files online since years before even Napster was around, and it has never been easier than it is today. Hell, with our download speeds, we're getting close to instant gratification. Any reasonably popular album can be had in under a minute. You can pull down whole discographies in the time it took to download a single song 10 years ago. There are cams of any major movie online within hours of it's premier; blu-ray rips are out by street date, if not even sooner. Software is cracked before it even hits the streets...
There's just nothing that the MAFIAA can do to stop it. File sharing is a modern-day hydra, cut one head off, two grow in it's place, and short of monitoring everyone 24/7, which costs orders of magnitude more than the alleged "profits" they're "losing", they're never going to be able to keep up with it.
Having never heard of this software before and hearing about it now I'm betting that usage is again about to shoot up! :-)
The "content providers" really need to get a clue. this comic says it all IMO -> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
They make it ever harder to get content and then wonder why people are sharing more and more. I have pretty much ceased downloading MP3 because I can easily and cheaply get them from Amazon. I have pretty much ceased BUYING E-books because publishers jacked prices through the roof and I can download them in SECONDS. I download and save TV shows for later viewing often even though I have a couple of TiVO and record many of the same shows. That saves me the EFFORT of pulling them off my TiVO, editing them, compressing them, and copying them. If the transaction is easy ala Amazon's MP3 (which even copy to cloud storage!) then the sales will come. Perhaps it won't be at the astronomical prices these idiots dream of but it sure beats a lost sale doesn't it? Their idea is to bottle things up such that everyone is FORCED into their business model - I'm sorry but that's not going to ever happen. Make the transaction friction-less, have an extensive easy to use catalog, and make it cheap enough I'll buy it like some throwaway app in an app store and "content" will sell like hotcakes.
Now then, I'm off to download and check out this new program. It will sure beat having folks over with portable drives for swap parties or participating in huge Torrent clouds!
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Congratulations, you found the Safe Harbor provisions. However, if you want to claim "Service Provider" status, that same section (subsection (h)) also authorizes copyright holders to completely pick apart your "service" via subpoena and allow the xxAA to implement "infringement finding" tools on your "service" upon request.
Oh, and if you forgot to warn all your users that they could be cut off for repeated infringement, you aren't protected at all. That's right, if you failed to get your friends to agree to a TOS, you've waived your protections.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
I could have GoT on my drive in minutes if I really wanted it - in HD would take a bit longer. I have at least two sources I could go through and neither of them would shower me with spam or anything else unseamly. Sure, I won't get the DVD extras but I seldom watch those. When I rip a BD I do save off the director's sound track though and if it was a DVD I store it lock stock and menu which my front-end plays without flinching. I can peruse tons and tons of media without getting off the couch. I can stream it to my portable devices anywhere, and I can stream media from my portable devices to my TV.
Do I still prefer store bought media? Yup, I prefer it because I process the video myself with my settings for the best picture. I then throw it in a box in my storage space never to see it again unless someone wishes to borrow it. why in this world have that stuff out where thieves can see it and where I must pore through it looking for it when I want to watch it? Even binders didn't work well for me, I'm way happier with everything ripped and ready to go!
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what WASTE does? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASTE
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*