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Server Names For a New Generation

itwbennett writes "Server naming is well-trod ground on Slashdot. But as new generations enter the workforce, they're relearning the fundamentals of what makes a good scheme. Can servers named after characters from The Simpsons or The Howard Stern show stand the test of time? If you name your servers after the Seven Dwarfs, can you have any doubt that Grumpy will cause you trouble? Striking a balance between fun and functional is harder than it seems."

429 comments

  1. If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... can I get sued for copyright infringement ?

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    1. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Copyright, no. Trademark infringement, yes.

    2. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Copyright, no. Trademark infringement, yes.

      Actually he can be sued for both. He can also be sued for just about anything, that doesn't mean that he is guilty of anything.
      It's only trademark infringement if it is reasonable to assume that the customer can confuse the two brands.
      Creating a soft drink known as cock-cola is a possible trademark infringement, having a server named coca-cola is not unless the judge is unable to see the difference between a computer and a liquid. (I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.)

    3. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trademarks are also registered against specific industries.

    4. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by wvmarle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Trademarks do not necessarily have to be registered; and can be lost by not using them even though they're registered; and may be lost by not defending it (i.e. letting infringement to go on for long time, without taking any action). It's far from black and white.

      Actually in this coca-cola example: just naming your server like that should be fine, assuming he's not running a shop selling coca-cola branded servers.

      However coca-cola being such a well-known brand may have a case against you selling computers under the coca-cola brand. Especially if you were to paint them red, with a white wave in the middle, because in that case you obviously try to pretend to belong to the soft drink company instead of being a computer seller, and cause market confusion. Or if you would paint them in that red/white colour scheme, but calling your company the coca computer company or so.

      Trademarks are indeed generally industry-specific indeed, think Apple Computer vs Apple Music as well-known example.

    5. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Dan541 · · Score: 2

      I call mine Skywalker, Vader and Yoda.

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    6. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you will, but only if your business will be successful.

    7. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Roy+van+Rijn · · Score: 3, Funny

      That might be a good (new) scheme as well: Coca Cola, Coca Cola Light/Diet Coke, Coca Cola Zero, Coca Cola Vanilla, Coca Cola Cherry, Coca Cola Lime, Caffeine-Free Coca-Cola. And it might be extended with other drinks from the brand: Fanta, Sprite, Minute Maid, Fruitopia, Dasani, Simply Orange, (etc)

    8. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Coke 2, also known as new Coke.

    9. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by sheehaje · · Score: 1

      I named all my servers after ships in EVE, and just prefixed them with type of server. So AS-Scorpion for an application server, FS-Blackbird for a file server. To add to the confusion, we use a prefix of VM- for machines that have been virtualized.

      It doesn't matter what you name servers, as long as the people working on them know what they are, and documentation is always important in any case.

    10. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and don't forget, New Coke, Classic Coke, The Real Thing

    11. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by plopez · · Score: 1

      Ahem.... don't you mean Coke 2.0? Now go an turn in your geek credentials. You blew it.

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    12. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by squidflakes · · Score: 1

      How do your Minmatar servers hold up?

    13. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unacceptable charecter gor server name

    14. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by sheehaje · · Score: 2

      Most of my minmatar servers are made from leftover Dell, HP and IBM parts held together with duct tape for good measure.

    15. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by squidflakes · · Score: 1

      But did you put wingy bits on top?

    16. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      That was pretty good until you used Apple as an example, because, well... They got sued.

    17. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Trademarks are indeed generally industry-specific indeed, think Apple Computer vs Apple Music as well-known example.

      And yet Apple Records started a suit against Apple Computers for that very same thing anyway. Ironically, or perhaps hypocritically, Jobs named his company Apple because he was a Beatles fan.

      It was settled out of court, with the settlement saying that Apple was fine until it entered the music business, which got them into more hot water with the iPod and iTunes.

    18. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Since I only have two computers on my own network, mine are called Acer and HP. I try to save my creativity for fiction.

    19. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      That is a specific example exactly because the final (out of court) settlement was that both would keep their trademark, and both would stick to their respective industries.

      Now of course later Apple Computer started meddling in the music business again... but only after they go so big that they could get away with. Because that's what they did, obviously.

    20. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So when you name yer server Coca-Cola when it is up and running will you refer to it as being Fizzy and Flat (running as expected and down respectively?)

      and under no circumstances should you ever write COCA COLA got hacked in your publicly facing documentation...it could spell trouble for you.

    21. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And don't forget their Dr Pepper knockoff, Mr. Pibb (not available in all markets - actually where Coke distributors also bottle and sell Dr Pepper, they don't do Mr. Pibb)

    22. Re:If I name my server "Coca~Cola" ... by cynyr · · Score: 1

      what if you put a AS server in a VM? does it become "VM-AS-Scorpion"?

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  2. Bugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My personal opinion is that bug names are a better solution. They are almost infinite. You never know when an organisation will grow a lot bigger than you expected.

    1. Re:Bugs? by emurphy42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      from the tempting-fate dept.

    2. Re:Bugs? by slackware+3.6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or you could name them after Linux distro's those are almost infinite to.

    3. Re:Bugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minerals and precious/semi-precious stones are better.

    4. Re:Bugs? by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 3, Funny

      At last count there are over 640K bugs! That ought to be enough for any organisation.

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    5. Re:Bugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh Bill you are so amusing. ;)

    6. Re:Bugs? by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Bugs? You must be kidding, there are no bugs in this software.

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    7. Re:Bugs? by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      Murphy took them all out and put them in the servers.

    8. Re:Bugs? by Talderas · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd rather take this a step further and name them after viruses.

      Smallpox.
      HIV.
      Ebola.
      Polio.

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    9. Re:Bugs? by plopez · · Score: 1

      By which you mean names like Blattella germanica (German cockroach), cimex lectularius (common bedbug), or Calliphoridae(blow flies). If you're not using scientific names, you are not a geek.

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    10. Re:Bugs? by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      And if you are using scientific names, nobody will ever manage to spell them right. Keeps the processor demand low, at least.

    11. Re:Bugs? by Creepy · · Score: 1

      heh - my kind of server

      I like to be derogatory to my servers and name them things like filth, slime, dirt, shit... brings up some humorous conversations, like "this server is shit!"

      Note that the name I see isn't what my users see though (they are VMs with web clients), so no problems with management so far, but I did get a laugh out of an auditor.

    12. Re:Bugs? by Auroch · · Score: 1

      heh - my kind of server

      I like to be derogatory to my servers and name them things like filth, slime, dirt, shit... brings up some humorous conversations, like "this server is shit!"

      Note that the name I see isn't what my users see though (they are VMs with web clients), so no problems with management so far, but I did get a laugh out of an auditor.

      You should start naming the servers after people you know. Thus, when bill (the print server) isn't working, you can loudly exclaim "Bill is such a jackass! He REFUSES to print my G-D 104e form for accounting". (yes, said jackass, won't say god-damn ... oh FFS).

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    13. Re:Bugs? by kbnielsen · · Score: 1

      Active Directory?

    14. Re:Bugs? by Krneki · · Score: 1

      Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

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    15. Re:Bugs? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Name them after Linux distro's What? Almost infinite to what?

      >syntax error, compiler halted

    16. Re:Bugs? by cynyr · · Score: 1

      I tired that once for my desktop, named it "eudyptula" that lasted about 2 days, before it was renamed "Korora" well mostly, the LVM VGs are still named "eudyptula-home", "eudyptula-usr" and so on.

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    17. Re:Bugs? by SeNtM · · Score: 1

      I prefer to name my servers after Venereal Diseases.

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  3. Server Names: The Next Generation by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make it so.

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    1. Re:Server Names: The Next Generation by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

      My home net has enterprise, voyager, defiant, ghandi, excalibur.

    2. Re:Server Names: The Next Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make is so so!

    3. Re:Server Names: The Next Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.

      Or maybe it just mean rebutting the tangled mess that passes for an argument isn't worth your time.

    4. Re:Server Names: The Next Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOu mean basement, right?

    5. Re:Server Names: The Next Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My open source project's main servers are stargazer and ds9. I've also had enterprise, defiant, m5 (from TOS), voyager, deltaflyer, ...

  4. Fun names worked great, for a while. by glassware · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At my startup company, we named servers after notable videogame characters. It was quite nifty when we had three servers; it stayed fun for years. But when we reached 30 servers, gradually problems crept in. One machine needed to be rebuilt and the name kept getting reassigned. Similar names were confusing.

    Server naming schemes are cute until you outgrow them. Hint: Determine for yourself when you outgrow them. We now name servers by their function and their sequence number.

    1. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hint: Use CNAME and you can keep the fun server name, too!

    2. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hint: Use CNAME and you can keep the fun server name, too!

      ...not if they are Windows servers with file shares (SMB). As of Win2k3, CNAMEs don't work for that. Ironically, exposing Samba file shares on Linux works just fine with CNAMEs.

      Haven't tried again with the latest Windows server software, so YMMV.

    3. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Hint: Use CNAME and you can keep the fun server name, too!

      CNAME's are great for client machines but when it comes to servers, the people managing them are professionals who should understand the naming convention. If any sysadmin cant understand the naming convention in 15 seconds, it's a bad convention. Users who have remote access to their machines have a functional name and an easy to remember CNAME.

      Users should not need to connect to servers that aren't defined by Group Policy or login script, even beyond this it's easy to tell them LON dash EXC dash ZERO ONE then trying to remember if "Philbert" was a file or exchange server (OK, the file server should really be "Heifer", given the amount of storage inside).

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    4. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by crafty.munchkin · · Score: 1

      If any sysadmin cant understand the naming convention in 15 seconds, it's a bad convention.

      So true... my last gig was at a place where the naming convention was a mix of football players names, cricket players names and character's from the Matrix movies. Made zero sense - yet they didn't want to make changes that would've meant it was logical. Oh yeah, zero documentation too! Very glad to have moved to a new company, where I've been able to implement a naming scheme for servers which makes logical sense - function/number-location.domainname.

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    5. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by CaptainHayashi · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm currently volunteering as the head of the computing dept. of a student radio station, and this year we've gone completely the opposite way.

      Why? Because when I arrived, we had a server called "*name of station*fs1" (File Server 1) which wasn't a file server, a server simply named "*name of station*" (makes for fun times when it goes down...!) which wasn't the main, all-powerful server, "jukebox" (which did run the station jukebox... and more) and some other systematic, role-based names such as *name*sw0 and *name*backup1 that'll probably stick better but who knows. Such names just don't work well when the workload moves across servers, we've found, which is often.

      Then we got a new server for running builds/development stuff, and I decided, in an optimistic prediction of its stability and uptime, that it was going to be called bsod (Building Server of Development!). This sort of name still works quite well in non-backronymed form now that bsod is the main, generic Computing Team server. Since then, we've decided as a team that naming things with role-based names == setting up an artifact name bomb, and recent naming conventions have included naming servers in honour of well-loved Computer Science department lecturers, "dog" (of HELLO, THIS IS fame) and at one point a pair of servers was going to be called "red" and "blue", after a famous pair of handheld console RPGs...

      Having said all this, the fact that we're run primarily by undergrad students and have a small number of servers means that we can get away with giving things silly names. We'll probably start CNAMEing/HOSTSing the role names eventually (already do this on the HOSTS level for the database server), so it doesn't matter if "dbserver" is "*name of station*specialpikachuedition" or whatever, and we can repoint the DNS if things move around!~

    6. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      You must be real fun at parties.

      C'mon - you people that want strict functional naming schemes are missing the point. Names are supposed to be for humans. We have all kinds of ways of associating names with functionality.

      Bottom line - if you can't say your server name 3 times fast, then you are hindering the humans that have to talk about that server on a daily basis.

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    7. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      Amen!

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    8. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bottom line - if you can't say your server name 3 times fast, then you are hindering the humans that have to talk about that server on a daily basis.

      So I guess "Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tubeman" is out?

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    9. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by FlopEJoe · · Score: 1

      Oracle11g, Oracle11g, Oracle11g.

    10. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by PReDiToR · · Score: 1

      Out, but not as far out as
      "Intergalactic Proton-Powered Electrical Tentacled Advertising Droids"

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    11. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The host naming convention should never encode the server role; the server role is associated to a specific server via a CNAME: when a service moves or a role changes the CNAMEs reflect the change. (This rule is true whether your servers are named "fun" or "boring".)

    12. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by giverson · · Score: 4, Informative

      I actually just dealt with this recently. Vista and 7 have no problem connecting to servers using CNAMES, but XP does. The solution is a single registry change on the server side. It's a very easy fix. Google DisableStrictNameChecking.

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    13. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is a whole RFC on this. Apparently youth has forgotten RFC1178.

    14. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      Hint: People who actually think server names are so much fun they'll use special software to retain them have their own special problems and their own special needs.

    15. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by rnturn · · Score: 2

      "C'mon - you people that want strict functional naming schemes are missing the point. Names are supposed to be for humans. We have all kinds of ways of associating names with functionality."

      I agree. Strict functional naming conventions come with their own problems. For example, I just had to re-read for the umptyumpth time, the multiple re-sent emails, wiki pages, and web pages containing the corporate warnings about making sure you're logged into the correct server before executing changes. It seems that the policy of having systems assigned names like "mxyzptlkvm001" and "mxyzptlkvm010", etc., isn't as useful as someone originally thought. (Quick! Which one's the production database server and which one is the test web server?) Sure... it makes figuring out what to name a system easier -- just pick the next number in the sequence -- but administrators and users can't remember where their applications and data live and a simple typo can get you connected to the wrong system without your even realizing it. I'm fortunate enough to be working (primarily) with some systems that were named before the new corporate standard naming convention was put into place and I have no problem knowing what system I'm working on. But, man, my eyes just glaze over when I have to wade through a list of the nearly-identically named systems built after the naming convention mandate.

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    16. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      We used planets at my office for a while along with SOL for our main file server. Soon it got changed to other stuff and finally just function and number.

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    17. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by asc99c · · Score: 1

      The admins should be able to trivially look up a name in a spreadsheet. We've got a lot of redundant server pairs, and an application that shows the current server name in the corner. With fun names, you can ask a user which server they are on, and often they know the answer without checking. Good luck with them knowing LON-EXC-01 without spending a couple of minutes looking it up.

    18. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      You are preaching to the choir. Our corporate naming standard does incorporate prod vs dev, etc., but as you pointed out it is hard to differentiate similar servers. As others have stated, aliases (DNS CNAME) is a nice compromise, but our IT overlords don't want let us have that benefit. I have resorted to local hosts file entries to enforce my nicknames. It is a pain to manage, but for the most part these things don't change that often.

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      leonard, rajesh, penny, howard, sheldon

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    19. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      At a past job we used planets until we got to URANUS, and the techs started snickering too much. {sigh}

      When we purchased two new systems which would run alongside a legacy system called CASPER, I proposed naming the new machines YAHWEH and JESUS. Unfortunately my boss got the joke*, so it didn't happen.

      *the Father, the Son, the Friendly Ghost

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    20. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by OzoneLad · · Score: 1

      We've been using names from the Cthulhu Mythos. Our first two servers were named Yog and Sothoth. We just have to be careful how many times we use 'Hastur' in a given conversation, though.

    21. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Sylak · · Score: 1

      I actually need to include my radio station's call sign in computer names so ITS doesn't fuck with our computers on the network...

    22. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i recently started at a smaller company, they have around 120 vm and physical servers, and their using 'fun names' (well, not anymore, but 80+% still is on that scheme).

      i want to punch whomever had that brilliant idea, As being the newguy coming in, there is no way to logically link what system names are connected to which applications aside from brute force memorization--i have far better things to waste my cycles on.

    23. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      What does 'fun a parties' have to do with it. This was his work, where logic and order make his job easier, and leaves time for parties.

      "you people that want strict functional naming schemes are missing the point. "
      No, you are issing the point. Logic and order make work easier.

      " Names are supposed to be for humans. "
      And, the servers have names.
      " function/number-location.domainname."
      In fact, they seem to have a logical and properly identifiable names.

      "if you can't say your server name 3 times fast, then you are hindering the humans that have to talk about that server on a daily basis."
      THAT's the metric? That's better then Oracle_1_DB.Apps ?
      Hey, server bob is down
      What functionality is that?
      I have to look it up
      What systems are impacted?
      I have to look it up
      What customers will management need to call?
      I have to look it up.

      Sure, cute fun names are fun, and a way to show of your geek penis side, but once you start having 30 server, 50 servers? 100 servers? it's impractical, wasteful and a fucking nightmare.

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    24. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      So your complaint is actually BAD naming conventions?

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    25. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by dwye · · Score: 1

      Bottom line - if you can't say your server name 3 times fast, then you are hindering the humans that have to talk about that server on a daily basis.

      So naming servers after the evil gods in the Lovecraft/Cthulhu mythos is no good? Bummer, there goes yogsuthoth and nyarlathotep. At least I get to keep Hastur and Miskatonic U.

    26. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint: Use CNAME and you can keep the fun server name, too!

      CNAME's are great for client machines but when it comes to servers, the people managing them are professionals who should understand the naming convention. If any sysadmin cant understand the naming convention in 15 seconds, it's a bad convention. Users who have remote access to their machines have a functional name and an easy to remember CNAME.

      Users should not need to connect to servers that aren't defined by Group Policy or login script, even beyond this it's easy to tell them LON dash EXC dash ZERO ONE then trying to remember if "Philbert" was a file or exchange server (OK, the file server should really be "Heifer", given the amount of storage inside).

      Wow, you don't get invited to many parties, do you?

      -@|

    27. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Names are supposed to be for humans

      You've never had a pet?

    28. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Christopher_G_Lewis · · Score: 1

      So I hate to be tech support on /., but geez...

      http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281308

      The only thing hard is the Kerberos/SPNs, which just requires approporiate rights.

    29. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I agree. Strict functional naming conventions come with their own problems. For example, I just had to re-read for the umptyumpth time, the multiple re-sent emails, wiki pages, and web pages containing the corporate warnings about making sure you're logged into the correct server before executing changes. It seems that the policy of having systems assigned names like "mxyzptlkvm001" and "mxyzptlkvm010",

      As I said, if you cant understand a naming convention in 15 seconds of it being explained to you (a sysadmin) the convention sucks.

      The biggest problem with the above system is that it does not seperate important details. A good naming convention is very abbreviated. LON-EXC-01 (London, Exchange, iteration 01), you dont need to put every detail in there, just the ones that matter the most (arguably another issue with functional names that many people get wrong).

      A bad functional name is not any better then calling the servers Phil or Rob, when you manage 40+ servers, you will forget what that little blade in the fourth rack named Gladys is doing, but not if it's named NYC-SQL-11.

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    30. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Capt.+Skinny · · Score: 1

      once you start having 30 server, 50 servers? 100 servers? it's impractical, wasteful and a fucking nightmare.

      I know what you mean. I've started giving my co-workers aliases so I can remember what they do and where they are: I call Bob G. in Accounting ORDACTGCLRK001, Rosie M. in HR is ORDHRBNFTS012, Ron P. in New York IT is LGAITSYSADM023. Otherwise, there's no way in hell I could remember which of my co-workers to contact when I need something.

    31. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I always found Casper to be really creepy.
      He as after all the friendly little dead kid which is just really kind of freaky if you think about it.

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  5. Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I realise that the new generation may not be bothered with such mundane details in their pursuit of eternal hipsterness, but server names need to be functional. Whenever possible, IT should be able to identify server's location, platform and purpose by glancing at the name... "TEAMEDWARD1" just doesn't cut it, unless the server is located in some depressingly remote location nobody knew about, until the server was placed there.

    1. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever possible, IT should be able to identify server's location, platform and purpose by glancing at the name

      Except when any of the server's location, platform or purpose changes, you'll have to change its name.

    2. Re:Functional by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. After years of enduring networks with servers with tree names or GI Joe character names, when it came for me to come up with names for my servers and other network devices, I came up with functional names that describe physical locations, departments, functions, and so forth. That way I have a descriptive network rather than trying to remember which one of the Power Rangers the last IT guy liked the best.

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    3. Re:Functional by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whenever possible, IT should be able to identify server's location, platform and purpose by glancing at the name

      Except when any of the server's location, platform or purpose changes, you'll have to change its name.

      Right!

      Is this a bad thing? Is it better to name the server SnowWhite and then having to remember whether SnowWhite is a DNS server or a Web server this week? Better to rename it (even better to reimage it) from prod-dns1 to dev-web1. I ship servers between datacenters so infrequently that renaming the server when it moves is not a problem.

    4. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell is a tea medical ward?

    5. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever possible, IT should be able to identify server's location, platform and purpose by glancing at the name

      Except when any of the server's location, platform or purpose changes, you'll have to change its name.

      Right!

      Is this a bad thing? Is it better to name the server SnowWhite and then having to remember whether SnowWhite is a DNS server or a Web server this week? Better to rename it (even better to reimage it) from prod-dns1 to dev-web1. I ship servers between datacenters so infrequently that renaming the server when it moves is not a problem.

      Better to reprovision it. If SNowWhite was a DNS server it will have the legacy of that function. Just installing the next set of software (say RDBMS, Web Server, etc) and re-using it is fraught with problems. How do you harden it? What needs backing up? Has infrasturture software been modified for the last purpose in such a way to make it less suitable for the new?

      Therefore, while reinstalling the OS, loading the current server image, setting up the monitoring, backup and other infrastructure software, etc in preperation for its new role, rename it with an accurate name.

      On the other hand if you treat your servers as home PCs and don't reprovision them name like home PCs.

      Sent from a home PC called Totara (a New Zealand tree), not a commercial server like WebProd01.

    6. Re:Functional by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      We use a boring systematic naming system: A site prefix, and a server number. I'm always losing track of what each one does.

    7. Re:Functional by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      All very well until you run out of space and have to move them. Cute is awkward, functional can become misleading as locations and roles change... either way, problems abound.

    8. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is fine except when IT make the server names un memorable strings of seemingly random characters where the difference between prod and dev servers is that one has a p in its name and the other a d.

    9. Re:Functional by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      BORING.

      Server names should be members of an (interesting) class.

      Agate, garnet....

      Socrates, Hypocrates...

      (all Berkeley.edu)

      blood...

      (bbn.com... I'll let you guess some of the others in the series :)

    10. Re:Functional by trancemission · · Score: 1

      Indeed, and DNS lends itself very well for this purpose.

      Server 1
      A Record: web.location.domain.com

      Backup Server:
      A Record: web.location2.domain.com

      Or webA.location etc...

      CNAME: www.domain.com then points to the 'live' server.

    11. Re:Functional by rvw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. After years of enduring networks with servers with tree names or GI Joe character names, when it came for me to come up with names for my servers and other network devices, I came up with functional names that describe physical locations, departments, functions, and so forth. That way I have a descriptive network rather than trying to remember which one of the Power Rangers the last IT guy liked the best.

      They can be functional by metaphor. Lake names can be used for storage. Star or planet names or river names for mailservers, etc. OK, given the server name Mercurius, people won't instantly know that it's a mailserver, but once the system is clear, it's quite simple. And occasionally you come across a name that you don't know, which can be educational as well for those interested.

    12. Re:Functional by shri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Our naming convention is two-letter-country - DC three letter code - application - offset us-sjc-nfs-1 jp-tok-php-1 etc

    13. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're clearly a boring person.

    14. Re:Functional by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The server number was originally practical: It just says which number it is physically in the row. That way if server number three acts up so badly we can't remote in, we know to count to the third server from the left and reboot it.

    15. Re:Functional by Kidbro · · Score: 1

      So how do you deal with servers that have more than one purpose?
      lax-debian-prod-dns1-mail2-wiki1-dev-svn1-mercurial1 ?

    16. Re:Functional by The_Crisis · · Score: 1

      I like this. It adds an element of security by obscurity to the system, as opposed to an intruder being able to determine a server's function through its name, while still keeping it somewhat functional.

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    17. Re:Functional by dkf · · Score: 2

      So how do you deal with servers that have more than one purpose?

      If you've got too many purposes on a single machine, that's an indication of potential problems anyway. Split up into separate VMs (with their own names) and the physical machine then has a clear purpose: hosting VMs.

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    18. Re:Functional by alanthenerd · · Score: 1

      If the server is suitable to be used for more than one purpose then each purpose should be in its own virtualised environment which will have its own purpose defined name.

      With how easy virtualisation is these days there is no need to go mixing different functions within the same os environment which can cause all sorts of random problems as different software reacts with each other. Separate them out using virtualisation making it easy to move to new hardware, easy to retire old things no longer needed, easy to re-image if some software plays up.

    19. Re:Functional by gman003 · · Score: 1

      I do this. Not with servers - I don't have any. But my home machines are named after Zelda characters.

      The laptop? Farore, Goddess of Courage. Courage - boldly going where no man has gone before. Laptops - going where no computer has gone before.

      The old gaming rig? Din, Goddess of Power. Also, coincidentally, named after the din it makes - those fans are LOUD.

      The old desktop I slapped BSD on and use as a messing-around test server? Nayru, Goddess of Wisdom. Because you have to be smarter than the average user to use OpenBSD.

      The latest addition, the old Mac Pro? Ganon. Both for being pretty damn powerful, and for "seducing me to the Dark Side" by being a Mac.

      The Wii is Navi - small and annoying, but you put up with it because the game's so good. The Droid is Midna - small and bitchy, but you put up with it because... why did we put up with her again?

    20. Re:Functional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We've done this. Databases are galaxies, web servers are stars, clusters are constellations, etc.

    21. Re:Functional by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      There's nothing so wrong with having more than one thing on a server. Using that for the name is a bad idea. mail-dns-web-imap-pop3-smtp.example.com .

          Having a DNS server on the mail server can help cut down latency looking up hostnames. You may have a web interface to manage it, or for users to check email.

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    22. Re:Functional by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I've seen planets, animals, countries, and all kinds of arbitrary names. One place we had: mx, nic, noc, steak, smart, stupid, free, gen, It's been a while, I can't remember the other names, but they were just as bad.

        I try to standardize names, with something like unit.rack.city/airport.company.tld. It becomes *very* important when you have multiple racks, in multiple cities.

          Once upon a time, one of my machines was p01.yyz.example.com. We combined the rack and unit, as we (hopefully) wouldn't use up the alphabet in that one location. That was, rack P, machine 01, Toronto datacenter.

          Without such a designation, and if you have a lot of machines, it gets to be *really* hard to figure out where to fix something.

          One place had web01.example.com through web15.example.com. Those were spread across 4 datacenters, and in no particular order. Some datacenters used multiple racks in the same IP address space. Which datacenter do you call when the machine crashes and won't come back up?

          I like sequential numbering. When you're doing upgrades, it's easier to go straight down the list, and assign blocks of machines to different people to do. You take a01.nyc through c40.nyc. I'll take d01.nyc through f40.nyc. I'd usually do it in smaller blocks of say 10 or so. That way, we could do blocks, and when someone finished their assigned block, I could assign them the next one.

          Switching names can be hard. Where I am now, we have logical names assigned. Some people *still* call them by their old names. Even though we have maps and lists, I get asked "where are fubar, mouse, rat, elvis, and estonia?"

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    23. Re:Functional by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          What server room and rack is gold.berkeley.edu sit in? Would that be by chemistry, geology, or finance?

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    24. Re:Functional by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

          You should put a sticker on the rack too. :) It'll help new sysadmins. Third rack from the left? Is that when facing the front or back? I guess it'd work for the 3rd rack, if you only had 5 racks in there.

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    25. Re:Functional by geekoid · · Score: 1

      why is that name bad?

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    26. Re:Functional by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Why would server names be different than real names. You are not called NYM2 because you are the second male child born in New York. And New York is not called BEC4 because it is the fourth big city on the east coast.

      Purely functional names are usually hard to remember and hard to pronounce. Also, names like prod-dns1 and dev-web1 make good alias but are no good for actual hardware. What if you decide to put a mail server on prod-dns1 ? Should your server be named "mail" or "prod-dns1" ?

    27. Re:Functional by geekoid · · Score: 1

      boring is good. You want excitement? go jump out of an airplane. I want boring and routine for servers and infrastructure.

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    28. Re:Functional by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I would guess geology.
      Chemistry should be:
      Au.berkeley.edu
      Accounting:
      Money.berkeley.edu

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    29. Re:Functional by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      You want boring? Go spend forty years of your life in a Soviet hirise, in one of the occupied countries. Say, 1945-1985.

      Sure, for any large installation (say, over ten), you want numbered servers indicating location etc. For any installation below that whose names will front-face to humans, you want human-readable names that will stick in the imagination and inspire.

      ~"You" meaning "one" in the sense of "reasonable person" and not in the sense of "heartless bureaucrat who wants to make their life a little bit easier by making the lives of everyone around them a little bit deader," of course.~

    30. Re:Functional by serialband · · Score: 1

      Those are good names.

      There's also balder hel, thor, odin, sigyn, sif, skuld verthandi, etc... for a while.

      Then there where also the naval ships, america, bataan, midway, nimitz, etc.. Which were eventually narrowed down to just aircraft carriers as they lost systems.

      Or poets, scott, millay, etc..

      or apple varieties, arlet, bonza, braeburn, crispin, mcintosh, winesap, york, etc..

      or baked deserts, cake, muffin, scone, cookie, etc..

      There are numerous names that work. If you don't stick to one theme, you can name them and have a good idea of their exact location. I have over 250 named systems memorized by location, based on the theme. For smaller numbers of systems, you could keep the themes located to the rooms. If it had gotten much larger, I would use a hybrid system and keep the names for the central them and use numbers after them.

      Some of the coworkers didn't like all the names and changed them to bureaucratic numbering schemes when they installed their systems.

    31. Re:Functional by hawguy · · Score: 1

      If you have one server to do imap/pop3/smtp and a web interface to email, I'd just call it "mail.example.com". If you really must put your DNS server, then call it "mail-dns.example.com", but if the goal is fast dns lookups on the mail server, I'd just put in a local DNS cache and keep my corporate DNS server on a separate server (virtual or physical).

      No need to let a successful SMTP/POP/IMAP/HTTP hack also lead to a takeover of your DNS. Likewise, no need to let a successful DNS hack lead to a takeover of your mail server.

    32. Re:Functional by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      Is that Mercurius or Murkurius? Now, repeat that over the phone to one of your underlings or bosses when you're in a location with spotty cell reception and there's an outage.

      This makes more work. "What did that thing do again?" Pitty on the poor fool who comes next.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurius

      The term is not clear, at all. Now, what happens when someone (say, you) decides the scheme doesn't quite work for a given system, etc. and you need to redo/add to the convention? I've run into this. I've got two servers with one convention, a dozen with another, and then odds and sods with no real explanation or meaning.

      Now, assume you've got everything on one subnet, or even carved up into multiple subnets with no distinction between them (per se). You've got workstations and servers on the same subnet/network. When you've got workstations named after simpsons characters,cars, food, and other random things, and then you've got servers with some of those same random things... it gets dicey.

      People who have little experience in multiple environments do what you do, and they end up making a mess of it which the next guy who comes along has to fix. There's no good reason to do it, and it really doesn't make your job easier, so just don't.

      Oh yeah, and I've found most people don't understand colloquial metaphors, nevermind obscure single-word metaphors which only make sense once you know the context.

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    33. Re:Functional by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      My computers have multiple names. They've got a canonical name that never changes (I use animals), and then a bunch of CNAME records for the services provided. So, for example, my internet services server ("firebird", I was feeling exotic that day) also has the names "www", "ftp", and "mail". If, for example, I decide to split the mailserver off to a new computer, the only thing I need to change is the DNS records.

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    34. Re:Functional by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I used that as an example. A lot of people swear by it. I normally keep my DNS servers as *just* DNS servers. It's a great way to repurpose old equipment. Even in an environment where we had millions of daily viewers, the DNS servers were pretty much idle all the time.

          I suspect the idea was from the "good old days", where people may have everything tied together with a 10Mb/s hub, which would suffer from massive collisions all the time anyways.

          They probably intended it to just be a caching DNS server, but plenty of people misinterpreted that as their public DNS server. In either case, it's a DNS server. Caching or not, if it's the only listed resolver in resolv.conf, it has to be there.

          I could extend the insanity out. -ssh- on Linux machines. -RDP- on Windows machines.

          Like someone else said, DNS isn't and shouldn't be used as an asset management system. 01-19.nyc.example.com should be sufficient. If you want to know *what* that machine does, it should be cross referenced with the asset management system. Database, flat file, whiteboard, or scribbled notes thumb-tacked to the wall, it doesn't matter. Sadly, I've seen quite a few places that don't even have the scribbled notes. Asset management is in someone's head, and probably should be extracted with a fire axe.

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  6. It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Necroman · · Score: 2

    I've used various naming schemes for systems I've setup (normally based on whatever video game I'm playing at the time). But the biggest change I've done is naming of virtual machines when I was administrating multiple servers, each running multiple VMs.

    As I can have a lot of VMs on a single server, remembering what VM maps to what server can be a pain. I normally just do something simple like having the base server called "blue", then the VMs will be called "blue-1", "blue-2", etc. This helped me track down the host server quickly when I needed to fix something.

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    1. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're in deep trouble when you build an ESX cluster. Then you'll have blue-1 running on the ESX server red and blue-2 running on orange.

    2. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by CBravo · · Score: 1

      You never migrate a hot VM?

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    3. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by afidel · · Score: 2, Informative

      What kind of broken VM platform are you running where VM's are tied to an individual host? Every major player now supports live migration of VM's between hosts, in fact the only hypervisor I'm aware of that doesn't is Virtualbox which isn't exactly something I'd use on a server.

      As far as server names I'm still using [sitecode][application][function][d|t|p|dr][instance #] where application is the LOB app name, function is something like app, db, web, etc and d|t|p|dr are which environment (dev, test, prod, dr). The only time this has ever been a problem was some ghetto app that had a hard coded 8 character hostname limit.

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    4. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are lots of admins running the free ESXi due to budgets since it lets them have more servers per box. (free version usually don't support hot-moves)

      I run all my ADS/DNS/DHCP servers on three of them (not all on the same box though)

      I'll be upgrading to the licensed versions in the next year.

    5. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 3, Informative

      VirtualBox does now support live migration as of version 3.1 via it's "Teleporting" feature.

    6. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're assuming that his/her company has shared storage to enable this, many smaller shops do not and use ESX to save space/heating/cooling, but cannot afford enough infrastructure to use the HA/DR stuff.

    7. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by bertok · · Score: 1

      Then you grow a little bit, buy an additional box and distribute your VMs using cold migration.

      Oops... you naming system is now a jumbled mess.

      Try again.

    8. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by sander · · Score: 1

      What kind of broken VM platform are you running where VM's are tied to an individual host? Every major player now supports live migration of VM's between hosts, in fact the only hypervisor I'm aware of that doesn't is Virtualbox which isn't exactly something I'd use on a server.

      Virtualbox supports VM hot migration (teleportation) since version 3.1.

    9. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by jon3k · · Score: 1

      If you have two ESX hosts you have shared storage. See Falconstor or Datacore or any of the storage virtualization vendors.

    10. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          VirtualBox has a "teleport" function. It's CLI, not GUI.

          If you're using a small setup, that uses local storage, you'll have to take it down, copy it over, and bring it back up on the new server. On any of them, that will be required to adjust load. If one VM gets real busy, you'll want to move it over to a host with less activity on it. That, or move others away from it.

          I have a small environment of a couple dozen VMs using VirtualBox. It takes less time to move a VM to another host, than it would have to move a physical server between racks. :)

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    11. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the free ESXi users can easily move machines between hosts. Granted, you can't make the moves with the guest systems running, but as long as you use shared storage floating machines between hosts is trivial and only requires a short (measured in seconds or low minutes) downtime.

    12. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by Necroman · · Score: 1

      Development only system. I used to have a bunch of systems in the lab that most of my co-workers were too lazy to manage, so I put ESXi on all of them to handle remote management of the OSes.

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  7. Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know the Pokémon names are going to get old fast.

    Star Wars, Star Trek, even Battlestar Galactica are great sources for names. JigglyPuff is NOT a server name!

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    1. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PUFF

    2. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Octorian · · Score: 1

      That's why, when I was in college, they used Pokemon names for DNS resolution of IPs given out via DHCP to laptops roaming campus :-)

    3. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work at a government department providing services to veterans of the armed forces.

      Today I noticed that the test environments for one of the systems were named Gold, Juno & Sword.

    4. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Tastecicles · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jigglypuff is that Prescott-based box with the stack of Maxtor drives in it... it vibrates, then explodes.

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    5. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      oh sweet. My clusters are always named Jupiter with each node being nothing more than a serial number, until such time as it's deployed.

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    6. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't you a bit old to have ever gotten into Pokemon? It came out, what, in 1997 or so? You would have been a grown man playing with children's games and watching children's cartoons.

    7. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Wooosh!

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    8. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When she said "jigglypuff" she wasn't talking about your server...

    9. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worked in a place where the server names were female porn star names. The users never knew the name of the server. They just called it their Home drive or email, or app server. But always made me laugh a little walking int the server room and seeing all the porn names. Yes, each server was labeled. In big bold letters.

    10. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even at my school they used pokemon for DNS:

      xxx.yyy.zzz.1 - bulbasaur.resnet.zzz.edu
      xxx.yyy.zzz.2 - ivysaur.resnet.zzz.edu
      etc

    11. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Well, at least if anyone ask you can just say they're My Little Pony names.

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    12. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is "Jar-Jar"?

    13. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

      Okay, so Ewok, Jawa, Muffit, Tribble?

    14. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Only if it's a VM on a server.

      Then only if the server is named LeatherFace or something akin to it.

      THEN only if the other VMs are named something like Wesley, CousinOliver and Bombadil.

      THEN only if the VMs are used for testing viruses, malware and intrusion.

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    15. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      JigglyPuff is NOT a server name!

      It is now.

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  8. I name them after girls by simoncpu+was+here · · Score: 4, Funny

    I name my computers, VMs, and bots after female characters (Inara, Padme, Daenerys, Trinity, etc). It originated from a long forgotten time when I can't get laid.

    1. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It originated from a long forgotten time when I can't get laid.

      Too bad your freudian slip of mixing past and present tense gave you away.

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    2. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I name mine after girls that I actually laid. And I'm running a data center for Google.

      Ba-dum-bum.

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    3. Re:I name them after girls by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Funny

      I name mine after girls that I actually laid. And I'm running a data center for Google.

      So....

      Christy_from_Canada_1, Christy_from_Canada_2, Christy_from_Canada_3, ...Christy_from_Canada_99999

    4. Re:I name them after girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems fair. They were probably doing it for professional reasons too.

    5. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, that's actually a bit of a problem. Canadians really need to get a little more creative in naming their daughters.

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    6. Re:I name them after girls by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      I always thought you should name servers after former employees. As an added bonus, if you're working a startup and you run out of names, that's a good indication that layoffs are coming, and you should start printing your résumé.

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    7. Re:I name them after girls by theNAM666 · · Score: 2

      So...

      NULL.google.com
      ??? :P

    8. Re:I name them after girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I always imagined Google had more than two servers. At least if "My Left Hand" server goes down "My Right Hand" will still be working.

    9. Re:I name them after girls by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, that's actually a bit of a problem. Canadians really need to get a little more creative in naming their daughters.

      How about their racks? ChristyAA, ChristyC, ChristyDD...

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      Obi-Wan: "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were sudden
    10. Re:I name them after girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best is when you get to say "Trinity went down on me."

    11. Re:I name them after girls by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Christy_from_Canada_1, Christy_from_Canada_2, Christy_from_Canada_3, ...Christy_from_Canada_99999

      He's got 99999 problems but a server name ain't one.

    12. Re:I name them after girls by mario_grgic · · Score: 2

      So they are all virtual machines.

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    13. Re:I name them after girls by rullywowr · · Score: 1

      Like last night?

    14. Re:I name them after girls by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      You could name the racks and base the server name off the rack it's in.

      DollyParton1..DollyParton20
      JenniferLoveHewitt1..JenniferLoveHewitt20
      SalmaHayek1..SalmaHayek20

  9. Simple... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... I name all my systems "bob".
    I also named my dog "Stay". Sure he gets a little confused sometimes -- "Come here, Stay" -- but like the server names, it keeps things interesting.

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    1. Re:Simple... by Sneeka2 · · Score: 2

      So you're running Linux on Bob?
      That's quite confusing indeed...

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    2. Re:Simple... by WrecklessSandwich · · Score: 1

      The wonders of virtualization...

    3. Re:Simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a server named BOB, he's the DEV Build server. ;)

    4. Re:Simple... by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 1

      Is it good or bad when "bob" goes down?

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    5. Re:Simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bob's your uncle!

    6. Re:Simple... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Is it good or bad when "bob" goes down?

      I don't worry, it always comes back up...

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  10. How it really gets done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    [2 char OS Type] + [4 char location] + [2 char Hardware Type] + [2 char server role] + [4 digit Number]

    WNNYNYVMPD0001

    Windows server in New York Data Center running as a Virtual Machine in the Production environment first server.

    RHLACAAMTS0200

    Red had Server in Los Angeles Data Center on a AMD platform Test Environment 200th server.

    1. Re:How it really gets done. by mitashki · · Score: 1

      no fun at all I must agree...

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    2. Re:How it really gets done. by Score+Whore · · Score: 2

      Done by the inexperienced perhaps. Location, sure. A number, sure. But type and purpose and OS? No thanks. DNS is not a configuration management tool.

      Assign your servers names and addresses for purposes of managing the servers. Assign your applications their own names, and (potentially) addresses.

    3. Re:How it really gets done. by 88Seconds · · Score: 1

      I wish that was how our supplier did it, but thay have their own naming standard based on location by country, city, server identifier and operating system. Great for them when they want to apply OS and security patches, but of no help to us when we get change records or problem records assigned to us because the name is similar to a server we do look have to look after, which serves a different function.

    4. Re:How it really gets done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd LOVE bitnet.

    5. Re:How it really gets done. by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      That's just as cryptic and useless to a new a new employee as if it were called mickey-mouse.

    6. Re:How it really gets done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it gives an imposing illusion of serious business. Appearances matter :p

    7. Re:How it really gets done. by Suzuran · · Score: 1

      No, it gives an imposing illusion of "My managers dictate every action I take down to the smallest detail."
      Because only management things names that retarded and unpronounceable are a good idea.
      The first time someone tried to recite one of these over the phone to a new user it should have become apparent how useless it is.

    8. Re:How it really gets done. by sander · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Any such host name base scheme will also not cover all the other funtions the same host is being used for either, and systems are rarely single function building blocks. This is what is handled much better by configuration management databases.

    9. Re:How it really gets done. by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      That's like the naming convention I use for our and our customers' hardware; two characters for function (sv=server, vm=virtual machine, rt=router, pr=printer, etc), four characters from the company name, a sequence number 00 to 99 linked to the company, and finally the sequence number 000 to 999.

      Other names with functional description are made in DNS as they're only used within one company.

      The only way to run out of names is either more than 99 companies with the same name or more than 999 servers within one company.

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    10. Re:How it really gets done. by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      I just get the server names from /dev/urandom. They're equally easy to remember.

  11. Doctor Who by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    My main server is called TARDIS, because it's bigger on the inside...

    1. Re:Doctor Who by laejoh · · Score: 1

      Mine is called HouseOfLeaves, for exactly the same reason.

    2. Re:Doctor Who by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it Alien?

  12. But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2

    And my server ain't shaped like a coke bottle either

    Can they still sue me?

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    1. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, color coding servers might not be a bad idea ... ;)

    2. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by trancemission · · Score: 3, Funny

      Our IT network uses this convention, annoys the hell out of the network engineers as we now have servers like cerise, cerulean etc...black and white was fine ;)

    3. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by justforgetme · · Score: 2

      Especially if you are color blind!

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    4. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you live in the USA just mentioning your evil plans here can get you sued.

    5. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      I like the old Bekeley labs machine names - they were natural disasters. Examples that I recall are Earthquake, Tornado, Avalanche and Headcrash.

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      Never been known to fail..."
    6. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I like the old Bekeley labs machine names - they were natural disasters. Examples that I recall are Earthquake, Tornado, Avalanche and Headcrash.

      A headcrash is a natural disaster?

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    7. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      Just hire more women as network engineers.

    8. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      It depends on your natural environment. ;-)

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      Never been known to fail..."
    9. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      Purple can get you sued by Cadbury, who have a trademark on the colour purple.

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    10. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by cynyr · · Score: 1

      I'd go one step farther and stick to only colors that start with "c". coral, cyan, clover(maybe?)

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    11. Re:But I didn't paint my server red and white ! by SeNtM · · Score: 1

      That is why I paint my servers UPS brown.

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  13. Be creative but have rules by DJ+Jones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A server name needs to directly correspond to a server's function. I'm not saying you can't be creative but don't be stupid. When you grow beyond ~10 servers, cutesie names are going to cause you to work weekends trying to track down basic networking issues. Here's what I do: if it's a web server, start the name with a "W". MySQL server, start the name with an "M" and so on. If it's paired or load balanced, put a numeral on the end of it to identify it's system. Beyond that, I let the interns name the servers using whatever new-age cultural references their little inexperienced hearts desire.

    Eventually you may outgrow any naming convention but by then you hope to be on an island sipping margaritas while someone else worries about these things.

    1. Re:Be creative but have rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That will suck if you switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL or Couch DB :)

    2. Re:Be creative but have rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We use a 3 to 4 letter abbreviation of the physical location the server is housed. When then use W or L to determine if it is Windows or Linux. Then it is P for production or T for test. Lastly it is an abbreviation of function, and a number if there is a primary or secondary. A Primary Windows Domain Controller in New York would be NYWPDC01. Easy to remember.

    3. Re:Be creative but have rules by wylf · · Score: 1

      With a large bunch of sysadmins, everyone had their own naming schema. Yeah, you try and get 4 argue-for-the-sake-of-it types to agree on something so trivia^H^H^H important. So we used CNAMEs to give context to the server. apps-prod-3, db-dev etc. All connectivity went through the CNAME... except for the sysadmins I guess. This made life really easy when replacing servers - update dns, drop the virtual iface on the old one, plumb it up on the new.

    4. Re:Be creative but have rules by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Our main server is used as an active directory domain controller, file server, DNS, DHCP, runs the build management service, webserver for a configuration program... name that one!

      Big companies might be able to afford a seperate server (Or more sensibly, virtual host) for every service, but in the smaller ones it's common for servers to do many, many tasks.

    5. Re:Be creative but have rules by webnut77 · · Score: 1

      Here's what I do: if it's a web server, start the name with a "W". MySQL server, start the name with an "M" and so on.

      This falls apart if the machine is both a web server and a MySQL server. (and a DNS server, and a DHCP server, etc.)

    6. Re:Be creative but have rules by danbeck · · Score: 1

      Oh, right. Changing a hostname of a server is a huge pain compared to moving to a completely new database architecture. Who really uses hostnames for services like a database anyway. You are telling me you force your client machines and everything else to do hostname lookups on every connection? What if you have 100's of thousands of connections per minute? That's real time and resources you are wasting.

      Hostnames are for admins and people trying to find failbook.com, not for servers.

    7. Re:Be creative but have rules by Terrasque · · Score: 1

      One school I was on used names from Star Trek. I don't remember all, but I do remember two pretty good ones (IMHO):

      Uhura -> router
      Worf -> Firewall

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    8. Re:Be creative but have rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. That's hilarious. I used to work for a company that got a bit jumpy when I renamed a box "Kermit". "We have a strict naming policy," the sysadmin said, "If we get a report about some box called 'Kermit' we'd have to look it up in our list before figuring it out where it is". "Cool, so where is NTS40DB?" "Eh, I dunno.. I'd have to look it up". "Yet you know where 'Kermit' is?"

      Personally I like LOTR characters, but I'm old school. I also name my cigars after imagined 3rd world children - it's gives smoking more depth.. "This is Eduardo, his parents were killed by snipers in the ceevel war. He only knew of life in the refugee camp, until even that was snuffed out." Giving things a human scale makes you appreciate them even more.

    9. Re:Be creative but have rules by 7213 · · Score: 1

      That would get a generic "infastructure" name.

      [datacenter][IS][number][letter if clustered]

      You can toss app owner in their if you want, I wouldn't though.

      I've worked at places that stick strictly to a functional naming scheme & those that used comic book characters and the like.

      I gotta say, the silly comic book character names function to keep new hires less valuable for longer. It's confusing to everyone but they guy who's been there since they where built. Then again, keep in mind I've only really worked in datacenteres of fortune 50 sized companies, SMB systems might be easier to track w/silly names.

    10. Re:Be creative but have rules by aix+tom · · Score: 1

      >You are telling me you force your client machines and everything else to do hostname lookups on every connection?
      Only if some miraculous bug disable the local DNS cache in every OS in your organisation.

    11. Re:Be creative but have rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My org recently acquired an infrastructure who used, essentially, orgname001, orgname002, orgname003, etc.... If you asked an employee there, "what does orgname053 do". They'd have to go look it up in a spreadsheet. Kill me now.

      It's going to take a long time killing that naming convention (300-ish servers).

    12. Re:Be creative but have rules by thomas.galvin · · Score: 1

      Call it Monolith.

    13. Re:Be creative but have rules by Thundersnatch · · Score: 2

      You just gave away your inexperience there.

      You really want to touch configuration files on hundreds/thousands of machines just because a server IP has changed? How do you migrate a server to new hardware without downtime?

      There's this thing called a "DNS Resolver Cache", in every OS. And another thing called a "TTL" on a DNS record. They'll save you hours of scripting work the next time you need to do a service migration.

    14. Re:Be creative but have rules by J'raxis · · Score: 1

      An ISP I used in the 1990s used the same scheme.

      Uhura was the mailserver. When it was upgraded, the new server was Kira. Transporter was the FTP server. Tholian was the web server. Kirk and Spock were two login boxes for admins. At some point, Kirk was replaced with Picard.

    15. Re:Be creative but have rules by trdrstv · · Score: 1

      A server name needs to directly correspond to a server's function. I'm not saying you can't be creative but don't be stupid. When you grow beyond ~10 servers, cutesie names are going to cause you to work weekends trying to track down basic networking issues.

      Not if there's a Built in mnemonic to the server name. "Kirk" can be a Domain Controller "Uhura" can be an email server. "Gene" [Roddenberry] can be a payroll server... If you have multiple sites break it down by shows. Headquarters could be the "ToS" Enterprise(s), another building could be the Next Generation Enterprise(s), and if need be, just branch out into more shows, like Futurama, BSG, StarGate ... The only trick is to keep it Sci-Fi / Fantasy so the names are memorable and meaningful to the IT staff.

    16. Re:Be creative but have rules by jon3k · · Score: 1

      What happens when you inevitably move a test server into production?

    17. Re:Be creative but have rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, a hostname should never reflect the host's function. It doesn't matter if the name is interesting or funny or boring or functional (etc). Functions are mapped to hosts via DNS CNAMEs.

    18. Re:Be creative but have rules by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Well changing hostnames *is* a big deal, if you aren't local to the servers. Who's going to change the sticker on the machine? Helping hands? That'll get expensive real quick. So don't change the sticker? Good luck when the day comes that you have to get helping hands to reboot it. Or when you send someone out to work on obscure129551, just to find that it's now named obscure95128.

          I've been that guy. I showed up at the datacenter. Luckily they had one rack. So only 1/3 of the machines had labels that weren't in the inventory. I spent a couple hours on the phone with the office, where people kept asking each other what the real machines were.

          They actually used city names in the hostnames. Unfortunately, a bunch of machines were moved in from other datacenters, and the labels were never changed. Most of the people hadn't even heard of servers ever being in the city that the stickers said.

          These particular machines were quirky. If they had been rebooted without a monitor attached, the screen was dead til it was rebooted. I wanted to just reboot them so I could see them. The refused, because there were "essential" production machines running in the same space, that couldn't be rebooted. Couldn't as in they had a 15 page restart document. If you rebooted a box, you had to carry out 15 pages of procedures across a half dozen other machines to bring it back up. That took 1.5 to 2 hours.

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    19. Re:Be creative but have rules by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

      I have hostnames for all clients and servers on my network, so Ghandi and Excallibur are the routers (Ambassador class). Phone is Voyager, goes with me everywhere, deep exploration. Enterprise is my laptop, shorter range exploration more likely to be used by others (meeting new civilizations). Desktop is defiant (most powerful in raw CPU)...

    20. Re:Be creative but have rules by tom17 · · Score: 1

      This.

      There is another thing, connection pooling. Do you really think you are making 100's of thousands of NEW connections per minute on a busy web server to db connection? If it's tuned right, you will be using large connection pools which only need to do a (cached) DNS lookup once they are created. Sure, there will be stale/recycled connections, but nowhere near the levels you are implying.

  14. Cross functional standard that is driven by mgmt by ctime · · Score: 2

    There can be a naming standard that is applied to all devices, network, servers, storage, so on, that help simplify how an IT organization works. This has to be driven by management. Naming things by some arbitrary set of characters from your favorite story does not scale well, to say the least. Lets create a standard that scales like a mofo:
    ie, SJN1FIDBSW0001 The goal would be to have each device identified by a location (SJN), location code (1), businessorg (FI), zone (DB) device type (SW), ,logical identifer (0), physical device # (001)

    How about a web server in NYC datacenter 4 behind a load balancer, but in the DMZ, for the finance organization. The logical "placement" identifier really comes in handy to quickly tell where the hell something is located, inside outside, behind lb, not behind lb, in dmz, extranet bullshit, etc.
    NYC4FIWEBSRV1001

  15. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right now I've been using the names of AI's. My lastest is called "Post-dated Chw=eque loan," or "Petie" for short (From Schlock Mercenary)

    1. Re:Hmm... by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

      Well, it's spelled Petey.

  16. LOST by depaya · · Score: 1

    Just name every server a character from LOST and then you'll have an explanation for anything that goes wrong.

    1. Re:LOST by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Connection to 4.8.15.16:42 failed. Error 23. Host lost

    2. Re:LOST by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      They were dead the whole time?

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    3. Re:LOST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant 4.8.15.16:23 - Error 42

  17. simians by strack · · Score: 0

    i dont know about server names, but i name my hard drive volumes after types of simians. c: is gorilla, i: is chimp, j: is monkey.

    1. Re:simians by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I used to store data on hundreds of DVDs. I found that you can cram 32 disks into a 30-disk cakebox, so I numbered them all in hex. That way the first digit identifies the box to look in.

      The full naming scheme is [media type][number], so hard drive number sixteen is HDRV10.

  18. MIT lab used laundry detergents by bgalbrecht · · Score: 1

    Back in the 80s, I visited a MIT lab that used laundry detergents for their names, and each machine had the name from the detergent box taped to the hard drive. At the time, the hard drives were about the size of a washer and had a removable disk. Each computer was connected to a single hard drive. How times have changed....

    At my work, they're more practical, and the first letter indicates domain (test, production, etc), second letter the OS, third letter server application type (webserver, database server, app server, etc), followed by a short name and number. When there are hundreds of servers, cutesy names just don't cut it.

    1. Re:MIT lab used laundry detergents by Suzuran · · Score: 1

      You were at Moon's Laundromat?

  19. On my home network by Altus · · Score: 1

    I only have one server, so I call it Mother.

    The laptop is Ripley.

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    1. Re:On my home network by pecosdave · · Score: 2

      Is this built up from the years of pent-up frustration developed by not having Sigourney Weaver in your lap?

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  20. pick a theme - Vaudeville by Bork · · Score: 1

    Vaudeville acts -
    for pairs -
    Burns and Allen
    George and Gracie
    Sid and Imogene ...

    singles:
    Jerry
    Dean
    Milton
    Perry
    Dean

    plenty of names to use.

  21. My favorite server names by I'm+just+joshin · · Score: 2

    The seven deadly sins...

    Nothing beats giving the sales guy a computer named "greed"

    -J

  22. Thanks, XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I named my server Robert'); DROP Table students;--

  23. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by aussiedood · · Score: 1

    We use a very similar naming convention, slightly less granular, but effect; State, City, Use, Number ie NYNYFS01 = NY, New York, File Server, 01 (a second file server would be numbered 02) At home or in small business movie/book/game characters can be fun, but once you start to get more than a few systems and employees and that starts to become unwieldy.

  24. Just checked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hastur, cthulhu and nodens

    still going, a decade after leaving the place they're housed...sometimes the Old Ones are the best...

  25. Traditionalist names... by leftover · · Score: 2

    Maxwell, Tesla, Watt, etc.

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    1. Re:Traditionalist names... by fuzzywig · · Score: 1

      Yup, I'm gradually going through the members of the Royal Society, so we have newton, hooke, stirling, wren, poleni etc. Of course, I have less than 20 servers (real and VM) so silly alphanumeric designations aren't necessary.

  26. Greek alphabet.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tends to work well. Unless you have more than 24 servers.

    I used to use Final Fantasy VI Espers for server names... until it got too annoying to correct people on their spelling over the phone ;)

    1. Re:Greek alphabet.. by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Final Fantasy will get you a large pool to work with.

      109+ unique names out of summons.
      103+ unique names out of playable protagonists.

      Figure at least 25 unique villains not necessary the big bad but could include things like the characters from the Turks of FF7 (Tseng, Elena, Rufus, Reno, Rude).
      Figure at least 50 named characters that aren't playable or villains but are relevant (Cids, Beatrix [FF9], Nabaat [FF13]).

      That puts you up to 275+.

      Add in unique locations featured in the games [Midgar, Balamb].

      If you really want to start drudging into the superbosses of the games [Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon, Ozma, Nemesis, Yiazmat].

      Heck start dragging out common weapon/equipment names, mundane monsters. There's plenty of stuff to make a FF themed network. If you're clever you could even work out a code using various types of names.

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  27. What's wrong with functional names? by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 2

    Cute names are so old and busted. "Okay, Kenny is the one with the accounting software that crashes constantly. Cartman is the old file server, because it's huge. Kyle is for the legal department."

    Name your shit for what it does and, if you have multiple data centers, where it's located.

    1. Re:What's wrong with functional names? by Hacksaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nailed it.

      With servers being generally virtual these days, and the underlying physical hardware a highly replaceable substrate, there's no reason for an enterprise to have serves which do more than one thing. If a server does only one thing, it ought to be named for that one thing.

      mailserver-eastcoast.example.com

      Where is that machine? Somewhere in the blade cage. If I yank the blade, it'll appear in a few seconds on another blade. Where is the data? On the giant fiber RAID, which is replicated in the west coast office, and two secret locations.

      Compute is a cloud, storage is a cloud, services come from that cloud, the clouds made of physical devices in as many locations as make sense.

      The old physical network topology is finally just the nerves and pumps, and no longer the focus.

      The focus is the data. The data is what we produce to make value, to drive the business process. Servers aren't special anymore, they're like hammers. You don't name hammers, typically. But you might have more than w=one, and you definitely want to know two things: where is it, and what is it for.

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    2. Re:What's wrong with functional names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do number and track hammers in a high-risk environment. You know, like aircraft mechanics that can't overlook the details!

    3. Re:What's wrong with functional names? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Depends.

      I used to run a development server that thanks to highly creative IT rules, had to be internet facing. In six months we learned "dev.app.department.corporation.com" got hammered because the word "dev" made some script kiddies salivate.

      We found however, that "fbihoneypot.app.department.corporation.com" largely got untouched.

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    4. Re:What's wrong with functional names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >If I yank the blade, it'll appear in a few seconds on another blade

      Using what magic? Stop trying to pretend it is simpler than it is. You mean "if I yank the blade, hopefully the monitoring software will notice, and spin up a new VM, and in a minute I'll have it back but I just lost a bunch of data".

      >On the giant fiber RAID

      Yeah, we just one one big honking storage device that can magically handle all the IO of our hundreds of servers, no need for local storage at all!

  28. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by morcego · · Score: 1

    Or you could do something "new and radical" and use SNMP objects with all that information, and just name the server whatever you want.
    On any network big enough to need those controls you are speaking of, you will have some kind of management platform.

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  29. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by isorox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There can be a naming standard that is applied to all devices, network, servers, storage, so on, that help simplify how an IT organization works. This has to be driven by management.

    Naming things by some arbitrary set of characters from your favorite story does not scale well, to say the least.

    Lets create a standard that scales like a mofo:

    ie, SJN1FIDBSW0001
    The goal would be to have each device identified by a location (SJN), location code (1), businessorg (FI), zone (DB) device type (SW), ,logical identifer (0), physical device # (001)

    The problem with that naming convention is you get very similar named servers, which might only differ by a single character in the middle of a hard-to-scan blob of text.

    On colleague of mine has managed to flatten a production oracle server because he connected to the Manchester one, not the Washington one. The difference was embedded in the middle of the all-caps dns. Several people have restarted services on the wrong server too, again a single character difference in 15.

    Since then I've instituted a policy of changing PS1 to prepend the hostname with the location in plain text.

    When it comes to outside addressing, heigherarchial dns and cnames allow easy addressing. oracle1.washington.mycorp.com, web1.gaza.mycorp.com is fairly clear where the box is and what the function is, and when it comes time to reassign functions, you just update the cname.

  30. With apologies to T.S. Eliot by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The Naming of Servers is a serious matter,
    It isn't just one of your holiday games.
    You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
    When I tell you a server has three different names..."

    ... those being DNS entry, IP, and the one which "the server itself knows, and never will confess."

    --

    "The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
    1. Re:With apologies to T.S. Eliot by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can't believe noone mentioned this: picking a good server name is important.

    2. Re:With apologies to T.S. Eliot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! That looks like a FreeBSD-4.x screen. Or Slackware.

    3. Re:With apologies to T.S. Eliot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when I was in the military, our shop's servers were named after Peanuts characters,
      and the network printers were named after Batman villains.
      Which leads to dialog like "Sally went down again last night". "Joker just took a huge dump", etc.

    4. Re:With apologies to T.S. Eliot by tzanger · · Score: 1

      Or a text-based Debian install. I saw that screen just this morning.

  31. different schemes by ahaubold · · Score: 1

    Devices at home get named after SC-BW buildings. Like Nexus for the server, Forge is the development machine, Pylon the Windows box and so on. At my current workplace the servers are named pretty bad. They are named with Manufacturer_Model_Number. I'd try to avoid that if I'd be in charge. In a company I worked for long ago, every maschine had to have the name of an alcoholic drink. Beer was a DB-Server there, Port did the firewalling. Employees workstations must have names from drinks which were typical for the country/region the employee originated from. Like the Russian dude's workstation was Vodka, the German guy's Korn. I think that was a good directive.

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  32. Take me to the server, Papa's got a new ... by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Musicians at one, colours at another, snakes at a third so two machines destined to spend time at those sites were called "Brown" and "Green".

    1. Re:Take me to the server, Papa's got a new ... by greg1104 · · Score: 1

      Rather than musicians, I use album names here. Most "cute" name schemes people use draw from a limited pool that isn't growing. But there are a large number of new albums released every year. Also, I can set the desktop background to the album cover, which makes them easy to identify if there's a GUI console up.

    2. Re:Take me to the server, Papa's got a new ... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      One amusing version at a government site a few years ago was pokemon. Replacement machines got the evolved name. I don't know what would happen with a second replacement or if the name pool is growing or not.

  33. The best server name is server. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you happen to have more than one server, name them like server0, server1, server2... There are other things you have to better spend your time in life.

  34. Child of the Mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I name my servers "Jane's" and then Function.
    Jane's Annex
    Jane's Library
    etc.

    Because lets admit it, if they ever become sentient, there could only be one name.
    Who else to fight Bugs?

  35. HHGTG by Space · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some names will stand the test of time. A box with two monitors should of course be named Zaphod.

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    I Don't Work Here
  36. We didn't, but I wanted to... by JavaBear · · Score: 1

    Because of the risk of outgrowing a naming scheme, because you run out of names, or because too many names become a chore to keep track of, I once wanted to do a hybrid approach, but instead went with the _ approach in the end.
    The initial idea were to use only a few names, for functions, ie. Frodo for File server, Gandalf for the Gateway, etc. But once you start doing that, you might as well just just Fileserver, or Gateway instead...

    I'd say that in larger installations, "cute" server names are a thing of the past.

  37. Random Naming? by eonFoo · · Score: 1

    package com.company.servers;

    public class ServerName {
           public String createName() {
                  return String.valueOf (RandomNumberGenerator.generateNumber());
           }
    }

  38. You'll strain something by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 3, Funny

    You will strain something if you have a twister mat laid out in mission control, so you can point out how to move data across your platform.

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  39. I used contageous diseases by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, customers weren't too thrilled to see their website hosted on "syphilis" or "herpes".

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    I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
  40. location in name is wrong by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    Use subdomains for that. Bonus is that you can move stuff around datacenters without having to reassign hostnames.

    --
    I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
  41. the _ scheme? by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    How did you manage to get _ working in DNS?

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    I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
    1. Re:the _ scheme? by JavaBear · · Score: 1

      We didn't, it was an example. :P

    2. Re:the _ scheme? by webnut77 · · Score: 1

      How did you manage to get _ working in DNS?

      I don't like straying from standards, but for bind:

      check-names master ignore;
      check-names slave ignore;
      check-names response ignore;

  42. Seriously? Still talking about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please can we move on with our lives?

  43. Keep it simple by MortenMW · · Score: 1

    I generally just use the location and function of the server. Something like this: Country-Function-Number. So a web server in the US would be US-WEB-1 and the second database in Germany would be DE-DB-2. Makes troubleshooting and looking for a machine a bit easier.

  44. Names for servers by Ziest · · Score: 1

    Several years ago I was working at a network equipment manufacturer in Sunnyvale, Ca. We had 2 monster Spectra Logic tape silos. One worked petty well the other not so much. One was name "Gir" and the other was named "Dib" Gir used to do random things for no apparent reason like wake up, pick a tape and eject it. We would walk into the data center to find a pile of tapes on the floor. Nothing in the logs, no backups running, it just decided it was time to eject a tape. WTF! We had a name plate attached that said "Gir: It's not stupid, it's advanced."

    Can't count the number of time the Spectra Logic field engineers were working on this tape silo but could never get it to work right.

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    Another day closer to redwood heaven
  45. Desiases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My former colleague used successfully disease names to servers. The hosts forming a cluster where index numbered, which resulted names such as cholera-1 to cholera-3 (file servers). Usually the worse the disease the worse the service was. And there where endless possibilities to humor. For example acrophobia cluster had troubles staying up.

    1. Re:Desiases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My former colleague used successfully disease names to servers. The hosts forming a cluster where index numbered, which resulted names such as cholera-1 to cholera-3 (file servers). Usually the worse the disease the worse the service was. And there where endless possibilities to humor. For example acrophobia cluster had troubles staying up.

      I'd have called then Nymphomania, 'cause they couldn't stop going down.

  46. Mythological figures by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    I use antique names transliterated to English - eg. enki, metis, dagon, tiamat, pallas, etc. They're mostly short, easy to spell, pronounce and remember, and there's an almost endless pool to draw from.

    1. Re:Mythological figures by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Until someone mishears that as 'Phallus' and you have to deal with a claim of sexual harassment.

    2. Re:Mythological figures by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Short and easy to spell? Agamemnon, Odysseus, Triptolemus, Hephaestus, Anesidora, Prometheus, Cytherea, Persephone, Pausanias, etc, etc.

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    3. Re:Mythological figures by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      Some more, some less. ;)

    4. Re:Mythological figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How are any of those difficult to spell?

    5. Re:Mythological figures by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Short and easy to spell? Agamemnon, Odysseus, Triptolemus, Hephaestus, Anesidora, Prometheus, Cytherea, Persephone, Pausanias, etc, etc.

      I had Odysseus, Heracles, and Demeter as server names, but people kept misspelling them as "Ulysses", "Hercules", and "Ceres". It was a very frustrating situation.

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  47. You Mother ****** by rdebath · · Score: 0

    The only problem with this is what's you've done when you fuck up your server.

  48. Onomatopoeia by Dadoo · · Score: 2

    I've been on the Internet a long time and, when I named my first Internet-connected computers, I thought it would be cool to name them after Star Trek characters. (The guys a floor up from me decided to name their after planets.) It wasn't long before I discovered that, at that time, half the machines on the Internet were named after Star Trek characters, and the other half were named after planets. I decided that, in the future, I would choose the most original naming scheme I could think of. I've been naming my computers after onomatopoeic words for years - screech, kablamm, whirr, etc. There are plenty of words, so the chances of running out are small.

    The only time I got into trouble is when I was putting together a server for a customer, and I called it "crash".

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  49. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by bertok · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Moderate parent up please!

    Full, descriptive names are the only sane way to name servers.

    Alphanumerical gibberish is a system promoted by suit wearing idiots who's job it is to track corporate assets, not the people who's job it is to press the "OK" button on the "Are you sure you want to destroy this 5 TB volume?" dialog box.

    No, you don't need the operating system platform in the server name, or the room code, rack number, owner, or anything else. Learn to use spreadsheets, asset tags, and description fields like a normal person. Name servers something clear and simple, like "ProdFile1" or "DmzDns2", and put the unrelated meta data where it belongs: elsewhere. Don't be afraid of CamelCasing either, just because server names are case insensitive doesn't mean they are not case preserving.

    I've been at a site recently where there were wildly unrelated servers distinguished only by a single character, using both the numeral '1' and the letter 'I' in the same position. I saw, with my own two eyes, one of their senior admins moving the mouse cursor towards the "OK" on the "Are you sure you want to permanently delete this VM" prompt, and they had the wrong server! I corrected the guy before it was too late, so he then promptly found a second, also incorrect, server to delete.

  50. "For a new generation"? by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    "For a new generation"? I am afraid the only thing the new generation can come up with is Pokémon names.

    --
    My first program:

    Hell Segmentation fault

    1. Re:"For a new generation"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. We can also come up with My Little Pony names. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether that makes it better or worse.

    2. Re:"For a new generation"? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Not true. We can also come up with My Little Pony names. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether that makes it better or worse.

      Derpy Hooves! I want my workstation to be called Derpy Hooves!

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    3. Re:"For a new generation"? by DeathElk · · Score: 1

      Now it's Moshi Monsters :P :)

  51. Asset labels by c_g_hills · · Score: 1

    No longer an admin, but I have always given servers names based on their asset label, e.g. SV-0700543. The benefit of this is that the servers must be recorded in the asset register before they can be set up. When it comes to virtual machines I simply used a counter, e.g. VM-000001. The important ones (fsmo roles, database servers, app servers, etc) get friendly names with dns cname records.

  52. All machines should have two (or more) names. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with naming servers after their functions is that in most shops, a server does more than one thing. And they often get moved / repurposed / whatever.

    So that machine that's now ldap-ny-02? Well, last week it was web-ny-05. A couple months from now, are you going to remember that name change, and that web-ny-05 had that flaky power supply / fibre card / etc?

    Oh, that service that had been running on lasco05? We moved that to the 'new' lasco03. (and there have been how many machines named lasco03?)

    I've worked in a lot of places, and these days with clusters, virtual hosts, etc, you often have a different public-facing name (which will get used when people call in a problem ... how are they to know that some service is 5+ machines behind a load balancer? Or that all of the web sub-domains are really on the same server? Even if you don't plan for the abstraction, it already exists due to these different aggregations.

    If you give the hardware one name when it comes in, and only use aliases for each of the public services, you don't have to worry about recycling names just so there's no service interuptions. ... and, true story, I've even worked in place with a machine named 'teller' after Edward Teller (the last article), as all of our mail servers were named after scientists ... but when I moved it for testing, I renamed the pair for that cluster to 'penn', and we later added a 'copperfield' and 'houdini' ... but we had to scrap the physicist names when our director didn't believe us that the spam filters weren't rejecting his e-mail because it was going through a machine named 'lovelace', and it was named after Ada Lovelace, not Linda Lovelace.)

    I've worked with machines named after cheeses, spices, cartoon characters, music albums, movies, adverbs, muppets, states, rivers, tv-characters, the boss's family, periodic table, hashes of the service/location/os, astronomical phenomena,

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    Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
  53. Greek mythology by Zoxed · · Score: 1

    FWIW our triple screen test machine is called 'hydra'.

    (Well it was for many years, until the Windows admins took over our Solaris boxes, and started renaming them XXnnnn in sequential order :-( But 'hydra' is still an alias to it.)

  54. Rule of thump! by madhi19 · · Score: 1

    Use whatever funny names you want until you got more servers than you can fit in one room! After that start naming servers room instead of individual server. If you get a way bigger room instead of an extra room name row in that Uber room!

    1. Re:Rule of thump! by MadKeithV · · Score: 2

      Rule of thump? Is that the one where if you have a software problem, you thump the system, and if the problem persists it's now a hardware problem?

    2. Re:Rule of thump! by DeathElk · · Score: 1

      Rule of thump!

      Thanks, dude! Now I know what to name my upcoming Techno release!

  55. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of ours are named using the letters B, C, D, E, P, T. e.g. BD01PT034C and PTE02T056CD

    Read those out over the phone and you'll understand the problems. Imagine the other person has a heavy accent too. Thank goodness we don't pronounce "Z" as Zee.

    It's a cruel joke.

  56. Underground stations by omershapira · · Score: 1

    Setting up a postproduction facility, I once had workstations named respectively for their roles in the stream (Ingest/Offline, then Graphics/Compositing, then Sound and then Online) after the stations in the Haifa underground(1 mountainside funicular, 6 stops, perfect for the downstream metaphor). The first 'stop' had 4 Avids, so they were named 'East', 'West', etc.

    Long story short, I'll never do that again.

  57. Use a logical naming system people,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My home computer is "DESKTOP" my laptop is "LAPTOP" the server at the small business I do handywork for is "SERVER"
    My desktop at work is WDXXXXXXXXXX - our naming convention is WD (Windows Desktop) then S/N for the machine itself, this ensures unique machines.
    Example WDAUD03122177A (HP S/N) it's also handy for the service desk to ask the customer to obtain the S/N of the machine for hardware faults too. So relatively logical.

    Now, some of the people at work, long long ago who are unfortunately in much higher positions than I, decided to name ALL the servers "P000xxx" when I say ALL the servers, I mean seriously ALL of them - that's the naming convention.
    Windows server? P000612 Unix server? P000534 Lotus Notes server? P000353
    This security by obscurity is one of the most inane, stupid things I've ever encountered, this is for a fairly large Government department, it's confusing and frustrating as fuck. (Take note, those numbers are random, it's not like all the notes servers are in the 3xx series or all the windows ones, 6xx series..) I'm not making this up either.

    That being said this same group decided on a new username standard, no longer will users get something semi-logical like js44 (John Smith 44'th person with J.S initials) (which I realise is ALSO not ideal) no no no, this Government department has opted for the following naming standard,.. wait for it.
    YYYZZZZZ
    YYY represents the state I work for, and zzzzz is RANDOMISED.
    So let's say I work for QLD Govt, a username might be
    "qldvz1sq"
    Imagine working with file shares/folders where EVERY USERNAME starts with QLD
    So we have:
    qldvc1sq
    qldvz2gh
    qld412z
    and so on and so forth,.. (fortunately new usernames get this standard, old ones retain the original standard to avoid 20,000 renames)

    I really wish I was making this up, I really do! It's the epitome of security by obscurity and more so, security by stupidity. It's .... mind boggingly retarded. Utterly retarded, I can't think of anything less than retarded for it.
    So please don't name your servers after famous Australian cricketers or Simpsons characters OR random naming conventions for the sake of security, do something bloody logical.

  58. Muppet characters by Boris_SDC · · Score: 1

    We name our lab servers after characters from the Muppets. There is an excellent Muppet Wiki which provides more names than we could ever need!

    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Muppets_Characters

  59. *sigh* by UnresolvedExternal · · Score: 1

    These things are good:
    ice cream and cake,
    a ride on a Harley,
    seeing monkeys in the trees,
    the rain on my tongue,
    and the sun shining on my face.

    These things are a drag:
    dust in my hair,
    holes in my shoes,
    no money in my pocket,
    fucking stupid naming conventions from people who should know better
    and the sun shining on my face

    1. Re:*sigh* by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      Mask [mis]quote? Nice job.

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    2. Re:*sigh* by UnresolvedExternal · · Score: 1

      Yep spot on - one has to wonder why you were modded up for spotting that but I am sitting on an unhappy 1 :(

      I have e-peen issues

  60. Needs to be memorable, unique and consistent by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    I prefer Real world names over numbers. Doesn't have to be anything too esoteric. City names will do. Or animal names.

    It's just a lot easier to remember that Chicago or panther has a problem than S391 has a problem. Or was it S319? If sequence matters, then go in alphabetical order.

    Of course, there's often a need to distinguish between different types of computers. Use another naming scheme. Countries, mountains, types of cheese. Doesn't really matter.

    1. Re:Needs to be memorable, unique and consistent by geezer+nerd · · Score: 1

      A very long time ago I was in a work group whose IT guy had decided to name the servers after mountains in the Bay Area. That worked very well in general, but no one could ever spell Umunhum correctly, and it was forever a problem! So be careful when you choose place names.

  61. animal names by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

    I find animal names work well, Kitten, Piglet, Elephant... not too hard to remember, unlikley to offend, etc.

  62. It depends... by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 1

    The naming scheme depends on your company.
    If you are a small shop with a few servers and one or two sysadmins, it really does not matter.
    Once you go beyond one physical site you need to include an identifier for what site the server is on.
    And the more people you have managing the servers, the more you need a standard. Because it is not YOUR server anymore.
    And the more servers, the more you need a scalable naming system (which mean numbers somewhere)
    One factor to take into account is when you list your servers, what is the primary way you want to sort them? For our company (with 500+ sites) it is the site they are on, so the first parameter is the site. If you are a single site shop, then it is probably function. Do whatever fits the way you work.

    And then there is another factor: If your servers are called Mickey Mouse and Frodo, there is a risk that management will not perceive the IT people as the most serious bunch, and they will treat you according to their perception. If you present a well structured system, then there is a good chance that you will be taken more seriously when you deal with management.

  63. Virtual Machines by andrewa · · Score: 1

    For a long time I've had at least 5-6 systems at home, and naming machines was no big deal. Started off with characters from the Lensman series of novels and most recently name my systems after football grounds (ok, soccer...). Now that virtualization is so accessible though, I have literally dozens more virtual hosts on my network for development purposes, so now it gets harder. Prefacing the name of the host with "vm" helps, and the transient nature of a VM means that using a taboo convention like naming the host after its purpose (i.e. VMSIPSVR-1 for a SIP Server) is entirely acceptable.
    But some nice suggestions here, my footy stadiums naming convention may have to change. Possibly favourite Liverpool players, so Torres would obviously not be an option and Carroll would be the system which gets the lowest hits.....

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    1. Re:Virtual Machines by Nick+Number · · Score: 1

      Possibly favourite Liverpool players, so Torres would obviously not be an option and Carroll would be the system which gets the lowest hits.....

      Yeah, doesn't that one run headerless?

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    2. Re:Virtual Machines by dwye · · Score: 1

      Be glad that you aren't naming them after US football stadia. They change their names every few years, or when the company that bought the naming rights goes bankrupt.

    3. Re:Virtual Machines by andrewa · · Score: 1

      Getting to that point in England too mate....

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  64. Dual naming by sqldr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I joined a company with over 500 servers and a really incoherent naming scheme - or lack of. I could talk for hours on how you built a name out of a class hiearachy which also matched its class in puppet, but the dual naming them was a win. Basically it works like this:

    When servers are racked up, they're just numbered, with a TLA for the location they're in based on nearest airport code.

    lax-001
    lax-002
    lax-003

    That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location. It also gets assigned an IP right away. But so far a bit meaningless. then it gets assigned a function

    foo-web-01 CNAME lax-002
    mail-02 CNAME lax-003
    bar-db-06 CNAME lax-004

    This has a couple of huge advantages, namely:

    1. When a guy in the datacentre asks you for label names to rack them up, you just say "just number them 45-67", and they get on with it before you've even assigned them.

    2. No re-labelling

    3. You can look up the "meaningless" name just using DNS

    4. You have a numbered inventory

    5. With a bit of work, you can pre-assign IP addresses to servers before they've even turned up and get the network guys to tag them straight in to the switch on arrival

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    1. Re:Dual naming by khr · · Score: 5, Funny

      lax-001
      lax-002
      lax-003

      That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location

      I take it then you prepend "ex-" to the name indicating they used to be lax...

    2. Re:Dual naming by karolgajewski · · Score: 1

      This comment is brilliant in its simplicity and usefulness.

      I wish Slashdot had a bookmark comment option.

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    3. Re:Dual naming by glassware · · Score: 1

      This sounds like the scheme we used to use when I was at Vivendi Universal. It was very successful even if the names weren't quite memorable.

      I definitely like the idea of using CNAMEs to give department servers fun names for their groups; but I wouldn't go overboard. Most end users I know don't really care to name their servers, they just need a page they can look up to find the right server name. Which brings me to my next point...

      No matter what naming you choose, create and maintain an IT department wiki. The instant you create a server, open up a new wiki page for it and make notes on whatever you did to the server. If stuff fails or if it bombs out or needs to be rebuilt, keep a running log on the wiki of what happened to it. Makes disaster recovery much easier and gives everyone a solid place to go to for documentation.

    4. Re:Dual naming by sqldr · · Score: 1

      I take it then you prepend "ex-" to the name indicating they used to be lax...

      Unfortunately, ex-lax isn't a product here in the UK, so we called ex-servers "anusol".

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    5. Re:Dual naming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mail-02 CNAME lax-003

      According to the RFCs, you shouldn't use CNAMEs for mail servers. MX records should always use A records for example.

    6. Re:Dual naming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinda silly to be renaming servers as they are quiet often shipped around, as I see often working in a datacenter.
      How we do it is: as soon as a server is purchased and arrives it gets inventoried. It gets an asset/inventory sticker (000nnnnn) on the chassis, another sticker on CPU, RAM, add-in cards, RAID controller if its replaceable, etc. and finally a DS-nnnn sticker gets placed on the front where it's clearly visible. Where DS means dedicated server (i.e. DS-1234). We can search our inventory system by this DS-1234 number or by a friendly name we assign it. If the server ends up being our new SQL server it might be named -SQLSRV- , VAN-SQLSRV-02, etc. It would be named VAN-SQLSRV-02 (DS-1234) in the system.

      It doesn't matter if we ship the server from Vancouver to Toronto, that sticker remains DS-1337 sticker remains.

      Networking equipment is named as --nn -- TOR-CR-01 would be core router in Toronto. CS for core switch - etc.

    7. Re:Dual naming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow.... do they also buy servers off eBay? Cause that sounds like an old employer of mine.

    8. Re:Dual naming by sqldr · · Score: 1

      glad to be of service! I'd tell you more, but I'm writing a book along the lines of "how to build an enterprise with configuration management systems" and have dedicated an entire lengthly chapter on "how to design a naming scheme", so I'm still working on it and ironing out the few, but annoying issues we had with how we came up with the "meaningful" names. Usually it worked perfectly - there was one guy who set up 2 boxes to run mongodb and rang in sick the following day so I took over. I didn't ask anyone for the name - I just logged in to what I figured he called it if he was following the rules, and he was :-)

      Although to give you a head start, it's actually foo-web-01.lax1 and bar-db-06.lax1. Both would have "lax1.blah" in their searchpath so within a 'zone', you could bounce from one to the next, and you could build an exact replica of servers elsewhere for DR with the same names without changing the names of what they all connect to. "foo" and "bar" are 'divisions', and "mail-01" doesn't have a division, so no division prefix.

      The class heirarchy of 'foo-web-01' in puppet was thus: foo-web-01 inherits -> foo-web inherits -> web inherits -> 'host'.

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  65. People still do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got over this in highschool and found naming computers after characters or things to be counterproductive (though my home router still goes by discovery, and my main computer goes by monolith, and I used to have servers called Jupiter and Europa, and Hal-9000, I think you see where I'm going with this scheme) but I found after a while, it's easier to name servers after what they do and who owns them. as goodm easure, at work we call them after the company name, usually initials, with server tacked on.

    so say, companyname being CNserver and then using CNServer02 CNServer03 CNSQL01 CNHVHOST and so on.

    as a company gets bigger name the server after the location's internal name, if you have one, or by department CNHRSERVER

    it's pretty straighforward and you understand what it is right off the bat, if you're paranoid, using a cryptic name might deter would be hackers, but in reality once they get past the firewall and land inside your network, they will go after anything and everything.

  66. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by sqldr · · Score: 1

    SJN1FIDBSW0001

    The problem with that naming convention is you get very similar named servers,

    Plus, you have to remember where it is to find it, which sucks if you have more than one location. Why is it in SJN? What overall function does all servers in SJN have in common?

    Assuming the function is "production1" or just "prd1"

    FIDBSW0001.prd1.blah.blah

    That's a start - now put prd1.blah.blah into the searchpath in every server in that location, so once you're on the bastion for that location, you only need the first bit.

    How about some hypens? Now you can write code to separate the parts and do a bit of automation (eg. if you're using something like puppet/chef/cfengine):

    fi-db-sw-0-001

    Next. device type AND physical device? I should only have to know one of them. Since multiple devices can do the same job, I'll stick with the number:

    fi-db-0-001

    Not sure we need a logical identifier here.

    fi-db-001.prd1.blah.blah, or just fi-db-001 if I'm logged into the prd1 bastion. There. fixed it for you

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  67. Keep it simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know it's not really a sexy reply, but keep it simple... Something like Company-Function-OS-Number, Company-Dept-Function-Number, Company-Location-Function-Number.

    Examples:
    SD-WebLin-01 for Slashdot Webserver Linux N1
    SD-WebWin-05 for Slashdot Webserver Windows N5
    SD-MSSQL-C2N1 for Slashdot MS SQL Server Cluster N2 Node N1
    SD-I30R5-LAMP-02 for Slashdot LAMP server N2 in isle N 30 rack N 5

    It's boring, but it's functional. Try to avoid version numbers though, as you might upgrade along the way on the same machine or VM.

    I've got a similar naming scheme in the datacenter, but here at the office I'm stuck with a Top Gun naming scheme. My predecessor thought it would be cool to name our local servers by Top Gun names. As such, we're stuck with Viper & Jester as domain servers, AirbossJohnson as ISA (now defunct & replaced), Pattern as NAS,... This is NOT fun to work with.

    At home, sure, I named my servers and computers after THHGTTG, with stuff like Colin the happy security droid, Zaphod etc. But at work? No way.

  68. Sad day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Our old student filestore servers were named after the planets, and as luck would have it, uranus was not only the most troubled of the lot, but it was also the last to be decommissioned.

    Pretty sure the server team regretted it pretty quickly... "Can you go down and give uranus a kick?" "All the users in your uranus are having problems logging in?" "Logins are taking a while - hows the load on uranus?"

    1. Re:Sad day by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      Should have renamed it to Urectum. It would have ended those jokes right away.

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  69. Don't use meaningful names! by zeptic · · Score: 1

    Don't use meaningful names! Instead use a number scheme. Call your servers Z000001, Z000002, etc. That way you don't have to change servername when the server changes function, location, etc. (if that's how you previously named your servers).

    If you really need different names then create a DNS Alias/CName.

    1. Re:Don't use meaningful names! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      IMO it's easier to remember your server names. And actually it makes sense to change the server's name when its function changes, since the machines around it will address it by its name, not caring about the machine itself but its function.

      In other words, a server's name should be linked to its function. Not the machine itself.

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  70. All depends on the environment by VTEX · · Score: 1

    For smaller shops, I see nothing wrong with naming your servers whatever you want. It's when you start to get bigger (say, over a dozen servers or so) that you are probably going to want to define a proper naming convention.

    I actually name servers after people who are close to me in my life. It's nice to have a little reminder of those you care about while you are working.

  71. Minor characters from Stargate SG-1 by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    ...with the workgroup named for the Jafa home planet.

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  72. Be wary, you might be suspicious for your names by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A current case (page in German) of an Austrian person who got their door kicked down for naming his servers after ancient Germanic gods (which was good enough as an excuse to label him Nazi which is against the Austrian criminal code).

    More likely, though, they didn't like his rather critical attitude towards the Austrian government and its position towards surveillance, and they needed some kind of excuse to fill his room with a swat team.

    So be wary if you dare to voice your dissent, don't name your servers after, say, some Muslim prophets.

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  73. HAL by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

    My machine is named as HAL9003 (successor of HAL9000). And yes, he has an eye.

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    1. Re:HAL by dwye · · Score: 1

      But does he have a *voice* ?

    2. Re:HAL by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      I'm working on it

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  74. Administrators, learn to administrate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think this whole conversation is ridiculous. I work with server parks from 120 different clients, each using their own naming scheme. I've seen pretty much every suggestion made in this and previous threads on the subject. I never had a problem with it.

    What it boils down to is this: if your administration is so bad that you rely on server names to know their function or location, you have no business being an administrator of any kind. Documentation is key, not some concocted naming scheme that makes perfect sense to you, and makes you look like an idiot without a life to whoever comes after you.

  75. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1178

                Use real words.
                      Random strings are inappropriate for the same reason that they
                      are so useful for passwords. They are hard to remember. Use
                      real words.

  76. Unfortunate Real World Names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of my company's largest clients (we're an IT consulting & support firm) has all their servers named after Simpsons characters. It's always good for a chuckle when I see "Smithers is Down" then "Smithers is up."

    There's another company that named all their servers after wines (Merlot, Riesling, Pinot, etc) and all their printers are named after beers (IPA, Stout, Lager.)

  77. when you have hundreds of servers by night_flyer · · Score: 1

    in lots of locations worldwide, a standardized naming scheme works best... we use location, primary or secondary server number, application name, dev, test, or production, and which server in the cluster it is

    so something like LAX1SDP1... we know where it is, what its function is, and how critical it is if something is going wonky at 2AM

    it ain't sexy, but it sure helps keeping things straight

    now as for my local network I know where everything is so I name mine after mythological creatures

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  78. RFC 1178 by phrank · · Score: 2
  79. Video game references by WML+MUNSON · · Score: 1

    Firewall: shoresofhell
    LDAP: shodan
    Terminal Services: portal
    Mail: postal
    DB (crashes/dies 5 times a day): king-graham

  80. Work & play by Sandman1971 · · Score: 1

    At work we have over 600 servers spread across many cities, so we don't use any 'fun' names. The name has a standard of including city/location, function and number. Not our choice, this was enforced by a previous manager a few years ago. Even though location and such is all tracked in an inventory database, it is a little helpful to know where a server is located/function without having to look it up. Long ago, when we only had 50-60 servers and a different manager, they did have names based on celestial bodies and sports teams (weird combo, I know). Now with virtualization the function part isn't really useful, so we'll probably have to come up with something new, but meh, that's a story for another day.

    At home however, my machines are named after the Endless/characters from Sandman. Destruction for my gaming rig, my SANs are named Lucious and Destiny, my main (non gaming) PC is Morpheus, wife's PC is Desire, etc.. etc.. I try to match the function with the appropriately matching character.

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  81. Logical name and friendly name by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    At the company I work for (large international corp) we have a logical name and a friendly name. The logical name helps identify where the machine is geographically (country, data center, unit) and the friendly name which is given out to everyone, which can be whatever name was requested, as long as it is suitable. This way you keep both the network team happy (you can tell from the name where to find it) and everyone else too (they have a name that is easy to remember).

    In the case of virtual machines and blades there is another logical naming scheme, adapted to the context.

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    1. Re:Logical name and friendly name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stage 1, tiny: The server name doesn't matter. People just say "the server" and context indicates the machine

      Stage 2, small: Everyone has fun thinking up server name schemes and outsourcing the task to AskSlashdot

      Stage 3, medium: The cute naming scheme has gotten unwieldy, so a role-based naming scheme is invented

      Stage 4, large: The role-based scheme is cramming so much data into a hostname that it is now pure gibberish

      Stage 5, huge: The server name doesn't matter. People just use a GUID for labels and a database for data

  82. The future by chriswaco · · Score: 1

    As an old guy, I am not looking forward to a future with servers named after Harry Potter characters. If Trek was good enough for us, it's good enough for our kids!

    1. Re:The future by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      "But.. our servers have "HP" logos on the front.. doesn't that mean "Harry Potter?" ..

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  83. Dead musicians society by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My servers are named using the surnames of erstwhile rock stars/musicians/celebs who did NOT die of natural causes. A scheme guaranteed to never run out.

    There was a slight deviation when one host and all its virtual machines were named after those most likely to transition to the main naming scheme in the next five years. Thanks to Amy and Witney for making the transition. Watch out Pete, Britney, and Drew/Michael!

    1. Re:Dead musicians society by bandy · · Score: 1

      The MIT AI Lab gave all of their Lisp Machines (both in-house, LISPM, and Symbolics) names of dead rock stars - it's an ever-growing set.

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  84. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

    Don't be afraid of CamelCasing either, just because server names are case insensitive doesn't mean they are not case preserving

    CamelCasing is ugly, but it's so much more readable than fucking all-caps. People who claim stuff needs to be in all caps because it looks professional should be mildly inconvenienced IMHO.

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  85. Naming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One set of machines in our test lab were named after the original Windows utilities, so: Notepad, Cardfile, Reversi, Paint, Clock, Write. Later, Word and Excel got added. These were all Unix machines (Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, Linux, FreeBSD etc).

    The Windows machines had names like Inherent, Increment, Inclement, Influent, Emergent, Accident, Adherent, Aberrant, etc.

  86. Transformers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been naming all my boxen after Autobots and Decepticons for the last few years. It's pretty cool because a lot of the transformers have specialized purposes, so you can name your boxes with familiar purposes, for instance, Soundwave could be a box that controls security cameras or a media box.

    Just make sure to name your most error prone box Starscream.

  87. Rocks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use a three digit location identifier that's intercompany and a small code depending on the application of the server: dc, sql, web, fs, etc.

    I did an internship with a company that named their servers after rocks. They used names like pearl, emerald, diamond, onyx, ruby, etc. I still think think it's an excellent generic naming scheme.

  88. Naming conventions in Academia by QuantumPete · · Score: 1

    Piled Higher & Deeper had a whole bunch of comics on this topic a while back: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1467 and my favourite: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1469

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  89. FUBAR and SNAFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I worked at IBM I built two file severs for the dev group I worked in. I named the FUBAR and SNAFU and was formally reprimanded for using "Foul Language" in the work place.

  90. This implies a securuty risk... by Mr.+Rigby · · Score: 1

    By adopting a naming convention one only needs to start guessing until coming up with a matching name of another server in your network. Where I work we use elements of the periodic table, it will take you 5 minutes at most mapping all our server names.

  91. Mostly anime themed by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

    My physical machines are named after the goddesses in A Megami Sama . General purpose server: Belldandy. Slower workstation: Skuld. Faster workstation: Urd. Netbook: Peorth.

    My Amazon EC2 machines are named after cloud formations: Cumulus (East coast) and Nimbus (West coast).

    I was also playing with some Chobits and Kyo Kara Maoh! naming schemes, but they're not in play right now.

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    1. Re:Mostly anime themed by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      My physical machines are named after the goddesses in A Megami Sama . Slower workstation: Skuld. Faster workstation: Urd. Netbook: Peorth.

      Now that's weird.. an anime using bits from the Nordic pantheon? Skuld, Urd, and Verðandi are basically the Northern mythology analogs of the 3 Fates. Peorth is Old English (Anglo-saxon) for the P rune, AKA Perthro.

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    2. Re:Mostly anime themed by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Yep, I did actually know that. Mostly I mention it as coming from the anime because it came to me via the anime.

      Unrelated, how on earth did you get Slashdot to render an edh properly?

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    3. Re:Mostly anime themed by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      ;) The character map utility.

      Both windows, and most linux distros, have one. (no idea about Mac though..)
      Have æt it .. I couldn't get "thorn" to work for some reason though. Under "preview post", it just vanished..

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    4. Re:Mostly anime themed by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Interesting. When I'd tried that approach before for more common characters (usually vowels with diacritics) they would just disappear like what you are describing with thorn. I didn't know if you had used some HTML entity code to make it happen . . . I was hoping you had some trick up your sleeve that would make them not disappear. Ah well. Thanks for the info.

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  92. Go Retro by Kamel+Jockey · · Score: 1

    I always got a kick out of using WOPR.

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  93. Days of the Work Week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Company I worked at used five Windows 2003 servers. We named them Monday, Tuesday etc. It reminded us what day of the week we had to reboot them so they kept working properly....

  94. Insensitive names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pick names for virtual servers like hilda, bertha, maud, Margaret, patty, bonnie and tina.... You figure out the connection.

  95. personal test environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a bigger, work-related environment I would almost certainly do this differently, but my personal test network machines are named after the Dharma stations from the show LOST. The main machine being named "TheIsland"

  96. my scheme by KernelMuncher · · Score: 1

    I used to name all of our servers after famous mathematicians / physicists. Pretty nerdy but a big hit with the PhD's who used them. I've also seen movie stars names - FrankSinatra, GingerRogers, etc. And states / cities.

  97. Wizard of Oz by MatrixCubed · · Score: 1

    When my (then) 4 year old daughter fell in love with all things Wizard of Oz last year, I decided to rename the devices on my network in honour of her interest. So far, I've got the main characters: - lion: media server - tinman - dev server - scarecrow: my laptop - dorothy: my daughter's laptop - toto: the firewall I'm looking forward to adding more in the months to come (glinda, munchkin, winkie, et al). The names don't necessarily have to do with rhyme or reason (except perhaps dorothy and scarecrow, hers and my favorite WoO characters, respectively), but the convention is fun. Besides, my old naming scheme (elements from the Ultima game series) was getting stale.

  98. The old advice is outmoded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I used to be the guy that argued, back in the 90s, that stupid robot-corporate naming systems like "lnx-mailsrv-034-a.us.example.com" were ridiculous, and point out all the advantages of real hostname standards. It did make sense then to pick a memorable name scheme which was independent of the machines' functional roles. Back then (and earlier) you bought expensive servers and kept them around a long time through lots of software and network/role changes, and servers were frequently multi-purpose long-life machines, and the counts were usually relatively low. Each server was a persistent thing to manage, an independent entity.

    IMHO, these days the trend is so far in the other direction that those host naming standards no longer make sense. When you deploy servers in bulk packs of 200x generic x86-64 boxes as part of a virtualization farm and then carve out role-specific VMs, it makes perfect sense to name the physical hosts like "node034.farm03.us.example.com" and name the virtual hosts directly for their roles, e.g. "mail01a". Ditto for cloud servers carved from e.g. EC2. We're in a different world now for the most part.

    Both scenarios always existed, there was always an argument for either naming route depending on your situation. It's just that the average situation has shifted pretty far in the "generic" direction over the past couple of decades.

  99. I inherited a naming sheme by GungaDan · · Score: 1

    Our servers are named after dances. Tons of good names to choose from, some of which sometimes relate tangentially to function. Unfortunately the British bosses put the kibosh on "shag." It would have been such a dirty little DMZ box...

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  100. After computer parts by biohazard35 · · Score: 1

    I like to name my servers after parts of a computer. It makes people asking for help hilarious. "Keyboard isn't working!" "Monitor is down!"

  101. Unintended consquences... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know some servers named after Austin Powers villans - 'Dr Evil' (DC), 'Number2' (BDC), 'Minime' (TS)...

    Then they added a SQL server called Mustafa which was repurposed for use on a DoD contract. They did ask for a quick explanation on why their server had a middle eastern name just after 9/11

    Oh, and the DoD TS is called FatBastard.

  102. Tron by Shirogitsune · · Score: 1

    We recently implemented a Hyper-V server which we named Grid and all of the virtual servers running on 'Grid' are named after characters from the Tron movies. (Flynn lives!)

  103. Geography by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

    The best server naming scheme I've come across was naming servers after cities, towns, rivers, lakes, and mountains in the locale of the business unit. The names are limitless. And people have a near instant mnemonic association with name/location and function. No one forgot what servers were used for. People had a "mental geographic map" of how their systems were interconnected.

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  104. The one true naming standard by jon3k · · Score: 1

    for small networks, doesn't matter.

    for medium networks, srv001-srv999 and a spreadsheet

    for large networks it really varies. but usually at least: [location][identifier][unique serial#]. maybe: nyc-db-005

    1. Re:The one true naming standard by plopez · · Score: 1

      Escept that small networks have a distressing tendency to grow over time. Start with a good convention, then as the network grows you won't have to switch to a new one.

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    2. Re:The one true naming standard by jon3k · · Score: 1

      as you approach medium size, or the upper end of small, you begin to transition your naming scheme

    3. Re:The one true naming standard by plopez · · Score: 1

      There is nothing more permanent that a temporary fix or convention. Start correctly and you won't have to worry about migrations. A good sys admin is lazy in the correct sort of way.

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    4. Re:The one true naming standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there's no migration, you just adjust as you go

  105. naming scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A long time ago, I used star trek ships

    then I used colors

    now I use entries from the perodic table of elements. elemential weight is relevant to box type, with laptops, phones and low power machines getting the lighter elements, desktops getting the middling transition metals, and servers getting heavier elements
    a friend used to use "manned US space flight missions"

    Then there is the issue of scale. Both colors and elements have a long list of entries to scale well. Then comes the issue of discrete vs serial naming. Groups of machines don't get discrete names, but the group gets a name, and the machines are serialized. Lets there was either a server cluster or a computer lab, named for the elements. We'd name one cluster of workstations Iron, and the machine names will be Iron1-whatever and another cluster cobalt, etc....

    1. Re:naming scheme by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      A long time ago, I used star trek ships

      That must be a frustrating naming convention, since all Star Trek ships are named "Enterprise"

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    2. Re:naming scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he meant he named his machines:
      NCC1701
      NCC-1701-A
      NCC-1701-B
      NCC-1701-C
      NCC-1701-D
      NCC-1701-E

    3. Re:naming scheme by SeanBlader · · Score: 1

      That must be a frustrating naming convention, since all Star Trek ships are named "Enterprise"

      You should not be allowed to read slashdot. I'm actually offended by your existence right now.

  106. My own VMs by JigJag · · Score: 1

    I have started work on recreating my entire home network using ProxMox (a VM server running on Linux, offering both full virt for Windows and openVZ containers for other Linux distros). On my action plan, I decided to name my servers after cartoon characters that are relevant to me.

    Being a huge 80s cartoon fan, the list is near inexhaustible, with short or long names. For instance, an extract of my list is:
    * Tao, Esteban, Zia (from The Mysterious Cities of Gold)
    * Flo (from The Swiss Family Robinson: Flone of the Mysterious Island)
    * Astro (from Astroboy)
    * Jayce (from Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors)
    * etc (my list is much, much longer)

    Then, I devised a way to create easy password to reconstruct, but hard to guess or remember. So, I take the username I want to create (typically "root"), I tack on at the end @servername.domainname (e.g: root@babar.myfamilyname.lan), then I prepend the string with a salt I have memorized and finally I hash that new string with SHA1 and extract the first 8 chars and add a couple of spaces according to a fixed schema (for instance you get "9 F4A BC3 2". I can't remember that password after 2 days, but I can easily reconstruct it on another machine, or even my phone. This is good for at least one user (root) per VM, the other users are driven by LDAP.

    While we're on the topic, I also chose my IPs range to be easy to use. All static services are on 10.10.10.*. For instance, my DNS is 10.10.10.10. Since everything else is obtained from DNS, I don't have to remember too much else. 10.10.20.* is for my wired computers (DHCP), 10.10.30.* is for my IP phones, 10.10.40.* is for my wireless. 10.20.*.* is for remote (openVPN) machines.

    JigJag

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    1. Re:My own VMs by squidflakes · · Score: 1

      I once ran a site that used cartoon character names. You could track the age of the server and the popularity of a particular animated show pretty easily.

      You knew that Spongebob, Squidward, and Patrick were older machines than Fry, Leela, and Zoidberg, which were in turn older than Finn, Jake, and LumpySpacePrincess.

      I haven't been at the location in years, but I get the pick list mailed to me every so often. It was fun to see that all the new servers have names like Rarity, TwilightSparkle, Applejack, FlutterShy, etc.

  107. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok, but when you have 11 diag outputs to examine and report back on, it's near impossible to keep those alphabet-soup names straight. Your eyes play tricks on you with the "ells" and the "ones" and so forth. When the customer tells me that the hostname of the broken server is "NYC4FIWEBSRV1001", I say: "ok, let's call that one 'v1001' for the purposes of our discussion". But of course this extensible naming system would make sense to a PHB, who never has to actually REFER to it.

  108. What would Spock do? by plopez · · Score: 1

    It's not about fun. It's about work. If it wasn't work they wouldn't have to pay you to show up, now would they? Besides real computer geeks get off on functional naminng convetions. Spare, functional, and logical. Ask yourself, "What would Spock do?" He would come up with a convention like .

    Like ShaSS2DR2P which could mean "Shanghai sweatshop 2 disciplinary records server 2 physical". Note that servers are always named in chronological order so that ShaSS2DR1P would be older than ShaSS2DR2P and so would be ahead of the newer server in the hardware rotation queue.

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  109. Used to be cool by cfulton · · Score: 1

    Used to be cool and nice. But now with virtualization there are just rack after rack full of blades in the Server Room. You can't find enough Dwarfs to name them all. We used the Beatles long ago when the bank I worked at only had 4 giant HP-UX servers. But, those days feel long ago.

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  110. Good names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once worked in a medical library. I suggested that all the public pcs be named after diseases. There's a print job stuck on Syphilis. That naming scheme didn't get accepted though.

  111. We use fruits and vegetables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our VOIP phones are (to us, at least) exotic sounding fruits: kumquat, jujube, pomelo, etc.

    Our servers are more normal sounding fruits: orange, pineapple, watermelon, kiwi, etc.

    And workstations are whatever the person using them happens to like: blueberry, raspberry, grape, papaya, etc.

    This works better for our SMB than the previous system I came up with, which was a LOCATION CODE-PURPOSE CODE-NUMBER CODE scheme. That might make sense in a huge organization, but in a company about 50 connected devices, it wasn't worth the pain of nobody remembering which number they were and the pain of dealing with devices with very similar names. As devices were removed and replaced, holes in the numbering sequence developed that become more confusing (is that machine missing or was it decommissioned, let me look it up).

    I couldn't remember that my phone was ASHWHPH003, but I sure do remember that it's "kumquat".

  112. Neon Genesis Evangelion by munozdj · · Score: 1

    Nobody made a reference to the Magi??? I'm starting to lose my faith on ./

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  113. I named my servers after the cast of Jersey Shore by toygeek · · Score: 1

    "JWoww" - is an advertising server, makes lots of noise but generally pretty lame content.
    "The.Situtaion" -- has a flashy case with lots of bright LED fans but really doesn't have a lot of CPU.
    "Snooki" -- This server goes down a lot

  114. My home network naming scheme by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

    Inspired by Trailer Park Boys

    Firewall: mrlahey
    Server: julian (big black box that everyone on the network always needs things from)
    Old laptop: ricky (has duct tape holding it together)
    Riced-out, flashy gaming box: jroc
    My newer, smarter laptop: bubbles
    Old-school XBox: coryandtrevor

  115. Brain anatomy by AttyBobDobalina · · Score: 1

    Used to work at a major university lab doing brain research - liked the naming scheme there, all landmarks in the brain: Amygdala, Hippocampus, Cortex, Callosum, Thalamus...

  116. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May be should use a subset of alpha numeric characters that do not have ambiguities like they do in Electrical Engineering connector/BGA pin numbering.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphanumeric "Subsets of alphanumeric used in human interfaces"

  117. Lots of names for male masturbation techniques by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    There are so many to choose from:
    * chicken-choker
    * lizard-drainer
    * mushroom
    etc, etc, and the list goes on and on for miles.

    You would need a pretty massive server complex before you exhausted the list of possible names.

    Oh, wait. You probably want names that can be used in a professional workplace.

    Nevermind.

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  118. Even MMO data centers get in on the fun by sandytaru · · Score: 1

    How boring would it be to log into NA-WOW-015 instead of Ironforge? Or SE-FFXI-09 instead of Bismarck? I think sticking with the industry names is good enough. A lot of our clients are medical offices, and some of the servers have boring names, but others have names like "Baby" for an obgyn office. No one knows where SURG-446-SAV is, but just say "Scalpel" and you know immediately it's the surgery center server.

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  119. Find out what is important to you and your company by Sait-kun · · Score: 1

    Naming servers after people, places or mythical creatures is a cute thing to do for your home server but it has no room in a business.

    The purpose of naming a server is to know where it is, what it does and who it belongs to.

    An simple example that will work for most small and medium businesses:

    Example:

    A = Datacenter Amsterdam
    B = Datacenter Brussel
    V = Virtual Machine

    A-SQL01 (The first SQL Server on a dedicated hardware machine located in the Amsterdam datacenter)
    A-DHCP01 (The first DHCP Server on a dedicated hardware machine located in the Amsterdam datacenter)
    B-DNS04 ( The fourth DNS Server on a dedicated hardware machine located in the Brussel datacenter)
    V-DC01 ( The first Domain Controler hosted on a Virtual Machine)

    You can basically add/remove variables to fit your needs.

    If you're a datacenter and host servers for others it could look like:
    --

    So that could look like: A24-wesellstuff-DC01

    So that would be the first domain controller from the company We Sell Stuff that is located in Amsterdam mounted in the 24th enclosure.

    So if your monitoring tools show that the server A24-wesellstuff-dc01 you know right away where the problem server is located, who owns it and what its primary function is without the need to dig trough documentation.

  120. Shouldn't they all be in a database? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    Turning a server name into a way to store information about the server is problematic. Hardware, location, role etc should all be recorded independently of the name in a rdbms which everyone who needs it has access.

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    1. Re:Shouldn't they all be in a database? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      " server is problematic"
      example? our system works very well. They day I started, I could look at servers and know exactly what they are for.

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  121. mmm beer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We name our servers after beer. mmmmmm beer...

  122. Multi-Client Hosting Naming Scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked in a Remote Hosting data center facility in the healthcare IT industry - over 5000 machines for a customer base of 180+ different clients, for application sets that typically required anywhere from 25-75 servers per customer. We actually had a naming standard, documented and updated regularly, that served us pretty well. The only thing the naming convention doesn't cover is physical locality, as at the time the standard was developed it was only the one facility (now at 3 and growing). There was also an seven-character limitation at the time it was originally developed. It still serves well, and I can identify a server function by just glancing at it.

    Format:
    CLIENTID | ENVIRONMENT | VERSION | FUNCTION | CLUSTERID/INSTANCE
    AA|B|C|DD|E

    CLIENTID - Two-letter code indicating to which customer the equipment belongs
    ENVIRONMENT - Single-digit indication of environment (1=PROD, 2=TEST, etc...)
    VERSION - Single-letter indicator.Clients moving to new versions of our software or getting a tech refresh would increment (A,B,C,etc...)
    FUNCTION - Two-letter code indicating application and/or function of server.
    CLUSTERID/INSTANCE - Single-letter or single-digit. A letter would indicate a clustered condition, incrementing with additional servers. A number would indicate a stand-alone or non-clustered instance.

    Examples (not real customers BTW):

    PD1AWS1 - Podunk Production Webserver, "A" (1st) environment, single-instance machine 1.
    HS3CMSB - Hayseed Training Master Database Server, "B" Node in a cluster.
    ST2DCT8 - Styx Test Citrix Server #8 in the customer's fourth complete environment.

    It's not perfect, but it worked out *extremely* well for a multi-client hosting scenario with thousands upon thousands of machines. Just by hearing the name we were told which client, the environment (important to know if it's PROD or not, right?), which set of servers it was (some clients had multiple complete environments and would only be live in one of them), and what it's function was. Knowing if it was clustered or not also helped, as this prevented a lot of active nodes from being accidentally made inactive if you catch my drift. They've added some extensions since I left to indicate various other states such as VMs and things. I proposed some additions that pushed it out to 9 characters and added a lot more functionality.

  123. Tried to keep it simple for my home machines by qzzpjs · · Score: 1

    I didn't want to do anything so complicated, especially if I have to type the names over and over. So I decided to just use single letters of the alphabet. Nothing's easier than typing a share when the host is only a single letter long! Eg. "\\a\c$".

    And to make it even easier to organize, IP addresses match the letter number. A is .1, B is .2, etc.

    It wouldn't work for a business, but for home, why make it any harder than needed?

  124. My boss proposed naming ours after Bond girls by Maskull · · Score: 1

    But we decided not to, when we realized how it would sound to say "Pussy Galore went down on me today, that's the third time this week!"

  125. I name them after moons and planets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With "uranus" reserved for the VPN remote access server.

  126. Server naming convention at my organization by joe170 · · Score: 1

    I have a theory that our Windows support group uses a set of Bananagram tiles to name their servers. XLBASWWRTPD1 is typical.

  127. Easy naming convention by preystalker · · Score: 1

    We name our hosts as per below: xxxyyynnnn where xxx is the three letter site/physical location designation, yyy is designation for type (i.e. svr for servers, wks for workstations, net for net appliances, etc.) and nnnn is logical 4 digit. This way we never have to rename a server because the functionality has changed, etc. We also assign CNAME for servers that is providing a service (i.e. intranet.local for our Intranet site or torsql2k8intranet for SQL Server 2008 instance using for SharePoint and located in Toronto).

  128. High Performance by leadfile · · Score: 1

    Naming a server is like naming a child, you have to realize that what you name your server will define it for the rest of its life! Which is why my newest server was named "Cyber Turbo Death Grinder 6066 --Laser". I can't imagine ANYONE wanting to mess with that. Unfortunately I was not allowed to name my child something similar. I blame this nanny state we live in.

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  129. Server names by Ralphus+Maximus · · Score: 1

    I named all the windows servers at work after female pr0n stars. Great times being able to say weekly that MarilynChambers, StaceyDonovan, or ChristyCanyon is going down on me.

    Had a solaris box named HarryReems. He's been up forever!

    Cheers,
    RM.

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  130. boring as i am... by pjr.cc · · Score: 1

    I personally find "fanciful" names for servers a little on the poor-judgement side of admin and they can lead to some regrettable situations when theres any real number of servers. We use dns to separate by location and network i.e. vlan.loc.domain.com, though vlan is a name, not a numeric. Then the server name defines its role in life. We dont generally mutli-purpose any server, though if we do it'll get a cname. Most things also have cnames to define roles as well.

    for eg, lxweb001.dmz.sing.domain.com (linux web server 1 in the dmz network, in singapore), which might also be known as web001.dmz.sing.domain.com but if its a globally relavent server, it might also be web001.domain.com. It might also have a cname like web001.japn.domain.com meaning it also serves web content for japan, etc etc.

    We never re-purpose servers (as in, web->dns) without rebuilds

  131. That would be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and the one which "the server itself knows, and never will confess.

    That would be its Active Directory computer account SID/GUID.

  132. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by serialband · · Score: 1

    There's nothing wrong with coming up with creative names. A hybrid naming scheme would work well as you scale up. If you have clustered systems, you wouldn't want to name each node something different. You could name your main node something like hive and use hive1 through hive99 for all the other nodes. If you're a large organization, you could still use name to identify buildings or floors. Odyssey1 through Odyssey20 for the 20 systems in building 15.

  133. Servers named after the Simpsons... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Let me tell you, I tried this, and it really hasn't stood the test of time. In 1994 I set up a small network with names like "Homer", "Bart", and "Flanders" - nobody remembers those characters any more! People keep telling me to rename them "Peter", "Meg", and "Quagmire"... I don't know what that's all about, some old TV show that got cancelled years ago I think.

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  134. Appleseed by fwarren · · Score: 1

    I went with Appleseed.

    My routers are Deunan Knute and Briareos.

    My servers are Athena, Hitomi, Niki, Tereus and Yoshi

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    1. Re:Appleseed by OffTheWallSoccer · · Score: 1

      I went with Appleseed.

      My routers are Deunan Knute and Briareos.

      My servers are Athena, Hitomi, Niki, Tereus and Yoshi

      That made me smile. Love that movie!

  135. Antartic themed names by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    I don't have the luxury to name our servers (and I hate the convention prefix we use) but I name my linux workstations based on Tux's environment.
    The most powerful workstation's name is "Glacier", others are, "iceberg" and "igloo" .. laptops are "icecube" and "icicle". I still feel like I'm missing a good name though. I don't think "ice sheet" or "ice block" have enough of a ring to them, and "snowball" is way too cutesy.

    .. and yes, I'm aware there are no eskimos to build igloos at the ANTartic, but the name was too cool to pass up.

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  136. The worst I've run into by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    I've run into some doozies:

    * A mix of obscure Latin-based terminology (medical terms, mathematical/scientific terms - mitosis) and/or folklore references (ghandi, chiva). Eg. "sentinel" would be for monitoring
    * Anime characters. Seriously, what the fuck. You can barely get more obscure.
    * Any cryptic and useless naming convention: Simpsons is a good example. What does 'bart' do again, and is it an important system?

    It's one thing if you're the sole administrator somewhere with a handful of servers. It's another if you've got a complex environment with many systems.

    A better approach is a naming convention which matches and documents the environment. "ldap" is ldap, "ad1" for your primary AD server, and so on. You are a professional, not a cartoon animator: you are not creating characters with personalities, you are a professional maintaining machines which perform work.

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  137. We only have two servers in our little shop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kandi is the working girl. Koko is who she gives all her proceeds to every night at 2am.

    We obviously don't work with women.

  138. Large Mechs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gurren
    Lagann
    Lancelot
    Deathscythe
    Heavyarms

    etc.

  139. Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid.
    Location, Function, Number if needed, done.

    IE:
    USAEdiOutbound
    USAEdiInbound
    USAFax
    MexicoMailServ
    BCExchange1
    BCExchange2

    Done, you know what it is, what it does, where it is located, and you don't even have to remember anything when looking at AD or a DHCP listing...
    And when something breaks you can tell the intern: "Hey, go to the server room and flip that POS exchange server."
    No worries about flipping the wrong server ever.

  140. Which begs the question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A long time ago, I used star trek ships
    then I used colors

    Does Mauve really have more RAM?

  141. Why not Zoidberg? by kc8jhs · · Score: 1

    Why not Zoidberg?

    No really, I used to use King of the Hill characters, but when it came to a server at a new host, I couldn't answer the above question, and now I have a server named zoidberg.

  142. rfc1178 by allo · · Score: 1

    http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html

    read it, understand it. thinks like "mailserver" or even "x101" or "debian-mail" are bad ideas ...

  143. Planets by sbjornda · · Score: 1
    We used to name servers after planets in our solar system. Then in 2006 the name space shrank by one and we had to make some hard decisions about which services to shut off.

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  144. Gandalf by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    When I worked as a coop student at Acadia University, the old room filling UNIX server which the tie dyed t-shirt wearing balding beard toting admins would turn the lights out and show all the pretty flickering lights was called "Gandalf"....

    It somehow seemed appropriate.

    1. Re:Gandalf by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah I should probably mention that was in 1995.

  145. Greek Islands by Skapare · · Score: 1
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  146. Pulp Fiction characters.... by kanuac · · Score: 0

    Antoine Roccamora, Marsellus Wallace, Mia Wallace, Vincent Vega, Jules Winnfield, Yolanda, Butch Coolidge, Lance, Jody, Zed, ...

    "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."

  147. LocationFunctionNumber by DigiTechGuy · · Score: 1

    obfuscated location_function_asset number

    It was established before my time with the company. While fairly good I would like something better. Some of the guys at other sites have been doing variations of this or different conventions for some systems without discussing with anyone else, which results in some minor confusion when supporting their undocumented network.

  148. Best Vendor incident with server names by RudySolis · · Score: 1

    So we first started out using signs of the zodiac for our server names. Of course this became a problem after we got to 13...so we decided to move to constellations since the zodiac names would still fit. When it came to naming a server for which we had a particular software product that constantly gave us more problems then we could deal with (company initials started with 'CA')...we decided to use something to distinguish it amongst the others AND relate our frustrations. We chuckled long and hard...but the chuckling came to a full blown roar when months later we were all sitting in a room with a lead developer from said company that was onsite to rebuild their software on the server because we (and them) could never get it working right. Those present included our senior management and the local, regional and divisional representation from said company (with the initials 'CA'). It isn't too hard to image what came next... yup, in the steps to rebuild the server, their SME refers to the server as 'Cancer'... one of the FUNNIEST days of my career.

  149. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

    You can blame NetBIOS name service for that one (windows zeroconfig host discovery), especially the populating of "workgroup" on certain Windows versions which would always display in all capitals.

  150. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

    bravo-delta-zero-one-papa-tango-zero-three-four-charlie. It's a shame this problem was actually solved back in 1932 (though not perfectly being the currently used variant).

  151. Do NAS drives count? by pulsar5271 · · Score: 1

    I used to work at a small stock photo agency as The Company's IT Guy. When I got there, there were already two drives, named Goldman and Tinman. Eventually they needed a third one, and I christened it Megaman.

  152. Oh my god they killed ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kenny, that's our webserver hostname. It has been stable ... so far.
    The rest are named after Viking mythology.

  153. My name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I name mine all localhost. It's quite easy to remember and I can always connect to them.

  154. Periodic Elements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All My network Devices are named after the corresponding element on the periodic table based on the last octet in their IP address

  155. Nameless by nobaloney · · Score: 1

    My servers are nameless. Really.

    See http://namelessnet.net/

  156. Stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After going through famous military ships (RIP Bismarck!) and female video game characters (I still love you Tanya and Natasha!) I finally settled on names of Stars. Not people, actual stars. Yanno, in the sky.

    My current systems are Deneb, Altair, Rigel, Vega, Spica, Mirfax, and Canopus. Well...and technically Toliman and Pollux, though my Android Tablet and Phone only use those for Bluetooth - they're stuck on the factory default random names for WiFi.

    The nice thing about this is that the potential names number in the millions, and you can strike a very comfortable balance between uniqueness and notoriety. For example, my favorite star is, of course, Sirius A, but the odds that I'll end up on a network with another Sirius are pretty high. So to with Deneb, Altair, Rigel, and Vega, but those are servers at home, so no problem. Mirfax, though? Doubt it.

  157. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At one data center, we gave names to city (by airport code), server row, rack and bottom U number from the bottom of the rack. It helped keep inventory straight, but it was boring. We did CNAME for a functional name that customers knew about.

    At a big company we did airport code, floor, room, and appended letter for printer/desktop/storage server/compute server/,etc. ... Still boring.

    At another big company each site was independent. One dept has a car them, dwarf theme, football theme, religious names, etc ... still lots of confusion ensued, but a lot more fun.

    At home I have used screendoor (firewall), backdoor(dial-in server, long gone), faith(faith that it is more robust and will keep running), hope(son, hopeing he will not do to much porn), charity(wifes machine where we did book keeping), love(daughters machine), nomad(my laptop), winmad(windows laptop-windows still drives me crazy), rodeo(wife's laptop - she's into horses). ... For small installations, having fun with machines fun names are good. I still like to have a 'logical connection'.

  158. Machines named after Canadian National Parks by edleslie · · Score: 1

    I name my servers (and desktops and laptops) after Canadian National Parks I have visited -- so Fundy, CapeBreton, BrucePeninsula, Yoho, Kootenay, Kouchibougouac, Auyuittuq etc -- I keep those hard to type ones for infrequently typed names like print servers.

  159. Names by Forty-3 · · Score: 1

    I name all my computers after mechanical devices from THHGTTG. My desktop is Marvin, and my laptop is Deep Thought.

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  160. My uninformed opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it seems to me that server names should:
    1. Be easy to speak, write down and memorize
    2. Identify a specifc machine permanently

    By extension, they should:
    2a. Not relate to the function or location of the server, as that may change

    The main requirement for point 2 is that the name should be unique.
    The main requirement for point 2b is that the name should not contain any information about what the server is or does.
    These requirements could both be met by generating names by incrementing a counter, but could run up against point 1.

    Point 1 can be met by using real words or names from a class, but that has the problem that it only scales as far as there remain available names in that class.

    So, I propose using something like a phonetic password generator to create fairly random unique server names of varying lengths from pronouncible strings of syllables. These would be easy to speak, fairly easy to write down and easy to memorize if one were to deal with a particular server for any length of time. Another scheme might be to have a data set of human names and surnames, and pick random combinations of these to assign to servers. There seem to be enough human names that we don't get confused between specific humans too often, so the same might work for servers.

    Additional meanings or information could be conveyed and searched upon by means other than server names. Meaningful names for more public use and memorization will tend to relate to the function of the server rather than the specific identity of the server, and can be assigned as aliases where necessary in a more dynamic way.

  161. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by cynyr · · Score: 1

    depends, it is easier to read when on a shop print. No guessing is that an L a I or a 1...

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