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For Sale: Internet Spying Business Developed For Gaddafi

itwbennett writes "French computer company Bull Group is looking to sell off the Internet spying software business of its subsidiary Amesys. The Eagle system, which was 'designed to build databases supporting lawful interception activities on the Internet,' has an interesting pedigree, having been 'developed for Libya after signing a 2007 contract with the regime there,' according to the WSJ."

36 comments

  1. I'm sure someone will find a use for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expect a bid from a US-government backed shell corporation any day now.

    1. Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it by zlives · · Score: 1

      much better software already implemented!!

    2. Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people who planned to sell this software to Ghadaffi need to be jailed. If the French authorities won't do it, then citizens who care about Democracy need to take justice into their own hands!

    3. Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it by Capitaine · · Score: 1

      Well, to be jailed, they should have done something illegal. Being French, I know the French government sometime take liberties with the rule of law but I would prefer them to avoid it. The bid was backed by French government and was aimed at "fight against terror". Being unethical doesn't make it illegal. The problem comes more from politicians than arms dealers.

  2. Libyan Intelligence System should be valuable by retroworks · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's never even been used.

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  3. Canada might be interested in buying this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Bill C-11 passes, I imagine the government would love to have a unit like this to police the internets.

    1. Re:Canada might be interested in buying this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How Canada should retaliate ? Should they send horses and soldiers armed with sticks ?

    2. Re:Canada might be interested in buying this by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Canadian swat team: (knocks on door) Sir? I have to ask you nicely to open this door at your earliest possible moment, or I will be forced to ask you nicely again!

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    3. Re:Canada might be interested in buying this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Federal Conservative government spent nearly a billion dollars on the G20 meeting in Canada. Other countries like the US and France can get away with spending only $30 million or so. One theory is that those piles of cash went into paramilitary-style training and equipment for participating police forces.

      So they're more likely to chuck a grenade through the window than to knock politely on the door.

    4. Re:Canada might be interested in buying this by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Unless politicians are a lot different in Canada, I have a pretty good hunch just where that money went.

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  4. Armovore + Degban have both expressed an interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in order to make their DMCA take down requests 99% more accurate than they have been to date!

  5. Partial trade embargos never work by Nutria · · Score: 1

    Even if my "virtuous" country had barred it's companies from working for Teh Eevil, some other not no virtuous country's companies will be more than willing to do the work (and employ it's workers at the same time).

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    1. Re:Partial trade embargos never work by __Paul__ · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because unemployment is so much more important than ethics.

      Fuck it, let's allow our private corporations to supply goods (weapons) and services (intelligence) to terrorist states too. It'll help fix the unemployment problem, and if we don't do it, someone else will!

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    2. Re:Partial trade embargos never work by slick7 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because unemployment is so much more important than ethics.

      Fuck it, let's allow our private corporations to supply goods (weapons) and services (intelligence) to terrorist states too. It'll help fix the unemployment problem, and if we don't do it, someone else will!

      Look what happened to Gaddafi, thanks to the Rothschild banksters. Go ahead, use the program, and you'll end up just like him, besides, the Promise software has done and can do more damage than anyone realizes.

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    3. Re:Partial trade embargos never work by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Damn straight, let capitalism sort it out. It will create jobs, both in the weapons industry as well as the military, and as a side benefit, those military positions get freed up every now and then and have to be restocked with more unemployed people.

      The system works!

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    4. Re:Partial trade embargos never work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every single network equipment manufacturer (NEM) in the world has to provide "lawful intercept" mechanisms for governments. It's true for Cisco, Check Point, F5, and all and any of them. Your company can easily install a certificate that'll be pushed on your PC from the domain and look into any encrypted traffic they like. Having the ability is not the same thing as actually doing it, and there are local laws to prevent that. But who's to say every single company follows the law?

  6. Patents by rabenja · · Score: 2

    ...ensues long patent lawsuits from Google and Facebook...

  7. plenty of competition by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2

    It's not like you can't already buy software for that. Most of the suppliers for these have a long list of non disclosed governmental agencies of various countries as their customers. I'm fairly certain most will also have sold their product to regimes that were considered "okay" at the time but fell from grace later on.

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  8. Agreed, it's all the France's fault. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    They should have never rescued the US, which subsequently evolved into the "great Satan", from Great Britain. The US is a horrid miserable failed experiment and is the root of the majority of the world's evil.

    Fucking losers.

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  9. buy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone want to go halfs with me?

  10. I'm glad I'm not involved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked, briefly, for a now defunct HPC company who were partners with Bull, and had contracts with various three letter agencies around the world. I'd always refused to work for "defence" companies before, and naive little me didn't quite twig at the time that the majority of super computers weren't exactly being used to cure cancer. It made me feel very dirty once I realised what a lot of the customers were using their systems for.

    See yeah, the news that Bull were contracted to spy for the Libyans doesn't surprise me, and I'm very glad that I don't work in that industry any more.

  11. Who will buy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know that there will be many buyers. The question is "Who?". It will be interesting to find out their identity. Maybe Anonymous can find out because the corporation will probably want to keep the list of their customers secret.

  12. Re:I'm busy and don't have much time to troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only more trolls had lives.

  13. Reviews by Crasoose · · Score: 2

    Pretty sure it would be easy to dissuade a potential buyer, their only review from a satisfied customer was his last video entry to the world.

  14. Good for them by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    Lucky there is a still huge (and growing) market for that!

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  15. Re:Fuck those faggot froggies by lightknight · · Score: 1, Troll

    Shush. They make excellent cheeses, which is more than enough reason to keep them in good company.

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  16. Governement support by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    Current France's president is quite unlikely to support that kind of investigation, given how close it got with Ghadaffi. We can be confident that french authorities validated the sell of this software. Fortunately, president Sarkozy is about to be shown the door on upcoming elections.

  17. I guess they'll have to find a new buyer by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Since Gaddafi is, you know, sorta dead.

    But luckily, there is no end of customers who want this stuff - and they probably don't even have to look overseas.

  18. No pride in these products, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must wonder...

    Wasn't it a great product as long as Gaddafi was legitimate? And now it isn't, anymore? Awww...

    1. Re:No pride in these products, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww man Lybia was the shit.. those guys used duct tape to mount fucking machine guns on their SUV's... XZibit would have shat bricks.. 8 months madmax2 on al'jaeera...

  19. Re:Fuck those faggot froggies by lightknight · · Score: 1

    Why the down-vote? They do make excellent cheeses.

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  20. Let's start collecting! by amix · · Score: 1

    So, let's get our hands on this. Maybe the EFF will jump in and we can turn the steering wheel. It most probably has been developed to spy on fellow citizens and suppress their human rights, but who said billion dollar companies would have them? ;-) We could use it to find out, what Grand Inquisitors Google and Facebook is doing exactly with our data.

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