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Anonymous Hacks Tunisian Islamist Sites
eldavojohn writes "The hacktivist group Anonymous has claimed another victim by taking down Islamist sites in Tunisia. Similar to an earlier attack on Turkish government sites, #optunisia has resulted in several government blogs and sites being replaced with 'Payback is a b****, isn't it?' The message lists censorship as the motivation behind this activity. The AFP is reporting that this is also in response to the reintroduction of Salafist laws and the caliphate. An additional Anonymous message read, 'We are not against religion, we are Muslims, but we are defending freedom in our country.' Censorship continues wholesale in Tunisia."
I wonder if they're hacking these guys because they basically won't have any ability to retaliate, as opposed to the U.S. Government or the drug cartels in Mexico.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
Freedom of religion is what leaves you free to have no religion.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
When the radical Muslims pay the hackers back by kicking their ass.
Anonymous seems to just have its fingers in the wind these days, shifting its sites all over the placewith no real direction or purpose. I mean, they even took down the Boston Police Department's website because the city forced the Occupy Wall Street wackos out of Dewey Square after letting them squat there for months.
So, when Anonymous hacked Vatican's site, they were against religion, but now they say they are not? I guess they need to take a more cautious approach when they know tomorrow could be thousands of angry people on the street screaming for their beheading.
If you post as an AC, don't expect me to spend a mod point on you.
This counter tactic won't work for the Islamist sites that need to be populist, but it will work for the ones who have enough men, guns and money to seize power and control through fear, intimidation or murder.
Basically, if you attack them, they can simply murder some innocent person related to you. Say, find someone who studies computers and whether you declare this 'computer' thing an evil or not, simply murder them and publicize that they died in response to the attack. They would just be interested in creating a chilling effect, not in being accurate. This goes for any other group looking to dominate with fear, such as gangs, etc., but it depends on the amount of violence they control.
I'm just looking at this from a sociology point of view. The problem I see with this is the other side will need to be just as callous about the victims caught in the middle of the war in order to continue. Oh well. Change is always very tough. I hope things won't spiral out of control, but I wouldn't put my life on it.
You DO know "agnostic" and "atheist" are orthogonal right? All religions, as well as atheism, are belief claims, while a claim of agnosticism simply means "I do not put the same kind of confidence in this belief as I would in something derived deductively from prior principles." For example, an agnostic atheist says "I have no particular God belief, but this does not mean there never is, was, or will be a God or Gods in any place, time, or meaning."
When they hack a company/organization, that group is more resolved than ever to keep doing what they're doing, except now with improved net security. They are strengthening the resolve and defenses of who they claim to hate!
This was actually the Taliban in Afghanistan, nothing like Tunisia, but it does remind me of how Islamic justice doesn't necessarily need to get the (anonymous) perpetrator in order to declare justice. http://slashdot.org/slashdot-it.pl?op=discuss&id=2589110&smallembed=1
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So the 'Arab Spring' is getting all theocratic. Lovely. Mufties and imams subjugating billions of women and $150/bbl gas.
Can we please have our imperialist puppet dictators back now? These people can't govern themselves properly. Thanks so much.
But for Anonymous we'd have had ovens full of infidels before the MSM had reason to mention any of this.
Why is bitch censored?
Your mind has been hacked by McKay Hatch.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Because nothing says "Fight the power" like hacking a website in Outer Buttfuckistan.
Especially when the Outer Buttfuckistani government is going to hush the incident up locally.
And isn't likely to raid your house like they do when you script-kiddie domestically.
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Actually, it's a lack of prohibition of having no religion that allows you to have no religion.
Ezekiel 23:20
Islamist. It's not a real word, stop using it please.
Freedom of religion is what leaves you free to have no religion.
Freedom from religion would be better. That way, you could have your religion (in your basement, in the dark (as it should be - you alone comuning with your sky fairy)), and nobody would bother persecuting you for it. Everyone wins.
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
The guy they caught in NYC had a ninth-grade education, and he was LulzSec's chief-rooter-in-charge.
Since this site is for nerds, how about a nerdish description from someone of what exactly it means to "take down" a website in this way?
Politics and religion I'm pretty well up on, but I'd like to know more about the technology behind these well-publicized, probably over-publicized, attacks.
This is just a prank.
So they hacked the website of a bunch of illiterate sheep-herders. Big deal.
When they do something *really* meaningful, like bringing down a corrupt bank, or a mass weapon manufacturer, I will be impressed.
Tunisia has a caliphate? Since when did they organize a massive worldwide shura and elect a new Amir-ul-Mumineen? I must have missed the invitation.
What an odd accusation for Anonymous to make. The Muslim world hasn't had a caliph since 1924.
...we should call them "Irony"-mous.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Actually, it's a lack of prohibition of having no religion that allows you to have no religion.
You are seldom, if ever, going to have that unless the state has some guarantee of religious freedom.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
That way, you could have your religion (in your basement, in the dark (as it should be - you alone comuning with your sky fairy)), and nobody would bother persecuting you for it. Everyone wins.
Oh really? But isn't communicating with sky fairies sign of madness and people who do that should get a mental treatment? Why not put a camera in every basement - that's the only way to find all the people who need to be cured, and to get rid of the terrible disease known as religion once and for all!
Freedom of religion is what leaves you free to have no religion.
Freedom from religion would be better. That way, you could have your religion (in your basement, in the dark (as it should be - you alone comuning with your sky fairy)), and nobody would bother persecuting you for it. Everyone wins.
So you would support some crazy KKK person having freedom from dining with black people? No? You are free to practice your religious belief that you have no religion in your mother's basement if you wish but that freedom does not mean that you get to dictate whether other people are allowed to practice their faith in public. If you want to be "free" from interacting with religious people then stop trolling in stories like this one and stay in your basement dwelling. It is up to you to remove yourself from the equation. Alternatively, you can show some modicum of "tolerance" and tolerate those who think differently than you do. That is the price you have to pay to live in a free society.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
So you would support some crazy KKK person having freedom from dining with black people?
I have no problem with that. If the KKK person sees "coloreds" in the restaurant, he doesn't have to eat there.
If you want to be "free" from interacting with religious people ...
I said no such thing. I have no problem with religious people.
Alternatively, you can show some modicum of "tolerance" and tolerate those who think differently than you do.
I think we've shown toleration for religion for far too long. The death toll long ago hit the level of genocide on all sides, and it doesn't appear to be slowing down at all. Read a newspaper.
When's Iran going to attack Israel, or vice versa? Or when's Kashmir going to blow up again? Or Chechins hijack and crash another Russian plane? Or China pull out another Pogrom against the Falun Gong? Or Indonesia ...
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
Good one!