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Ask Slashdot: Finding a Trustworthy VPN Service?

New submitter Cheeze ball writes "I've recently moved to Europe and I'd like to setup a VPN so I can get Hulu, Netflix, and a few other services. I've found plenty of sites offering cheap VPN services, but they all seem just a tad too shady. Searching for any reviews on them only brings up pages of positive reviews on sites whose only content is said review. Does anyone have any suggestions on reliable reasonably safe VPN?"

193 comments

  1. Run your own by dskoll · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get a cheap colocated server in the US and then run OpenVPN or whatever flavor of VPN you prefer.

    1. Re:Run your own by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can get a vm at rackspace for about $11 a month: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/pricing/

      Or of course, there is always the ever popular Amazon..

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    2. Re:Run your own by hodet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just run a cheap VPS and tunnel through SSH. its like $10 a month. You can get VPS in any country you need to originate from.

    3. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep. I'd get a free tier amazon ec2 machine and set up openvpn there. 15GB traffic is free and since you pay both in and out, it's 7.5GB/month vpn traffic. Good for a few movies, but after than you'll pay regular amazon traffic rates.

    4. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But beware that $11/month doesn't include bandwidth charges. Streaming video might add substantially to that bill.

      Uhhh, if you are in the UK I might consider a trade....

    5. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That price doesn't include any bandwidth, you pay per gb for bandwidth on top of that price.

    6. Re:Run your own by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Informative

      Downloading 30Gb with it (since you only pay outgoing bandwith) adds about $4 to the bill for the month. You do pay for bandwidth, but it isn't very much.

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    7. Re:Run your own by vlm · · Score: 2

      Its important to point out that at a couple bucks per movie you're rapidly approaching "blueray at the local redbox" prices.
      This isn't relevant to the original european requester, but its still interesting.

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    8. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same rackspace from the other day that allowed an unauthorized user to access another's account and transfer several domains, and then offered a paltry half month of free hosting as compensation?

    9. Re:Run your own by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Get a cheap colocated server in the US and then run OpenVPN or whatever flavor of VPN you prefer.

      That's exactly what I was going to say with the exception that I would recommend a cheap virtual server not a colocated or dedicated machine.

    10. Re:Run your own by 1s44c · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same rackspace from the other day that allowed an unauthorized user to access another's account and transfer several domains, and then offered a paltry half month of free hosting as compensation?

      Yes, that same rackspace.

      Is there a list of providers that never fucked up somewhere? Because I personally don't know of any.

      I had a lot of trust in Linode until the recent BitCoin Heist revealed that any machine could have been raided. I trusted Hetzner until I heard of some abuse of their admin tools.

    11. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Get a cheap colocated server in the US and then run OpenVPN or whatever flavor of VPN you prefer.

      A quality USA (American) VPN service permits Internet users to securely connect to a remote server based in the USA and access their favorite USA only streaming and other websites.
      I am using Pure VPN and enjoy my favorite USA Internet TV Channels like Netflix, Hulu, Roku Box, Pandora, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. from anywhere in the world. Currently its Price is $9.99/month, gives 14 servers in different countries as well as 24/hr customer support.
      There are many others VPN Providers offers quality and dedicated USA VPN servers like, IAPS, Strong VPN famous for best vpn services.

    12. Re:Run your own by wisty · · Score: 1

      Most of the advantages of VPNs (fast disk IO, admin rights) are kind of irrelevant for this. Of course, you'll hammer their bandwidth, so they might block you for that.

    13. Re:Run your own by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Its important to point out that at a couple bucks per movie you're rapidly approaching "blueray at the local redbox" prices.

      But without all the Blu-Ray bullshit. The total cost to user could even exceed renting Blu-Rays and still be a preferable alternative. Depending on one's peeves, Blu-Rays which have lots of ads would have to become free-as-in-beer in order to become competitive.

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    14. Re:Run your own by Pieroxy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same rackspace from the other day that allowed an unauthorized user to access another's account and transfer several domains, and then offered a paltry half month of free hosting as compensation?

      If all you install is OpenVPN, what do you care? Machine compromised? Reinstall the whole thing with a different set of keys. Problem solved.

      I'd say that for this purpose a hosting company that is not too rigid on the procedures is all the better.

    15. Re:Run your own by Cthefuture · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's too much. Check out lowendbox and find something you like.

      Since you don't need disk space, much RAM or CPU then you should be able to find something that will work for less than $20 a year. They usually come with a fair amount of bandwidth.

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    16. Re:Run your own by unclebob79 · · Score: 1

      Good idea. But you can only tunnel traffic originating from programs supporting the SOCKS protocol, right ?

    17. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I setup my own personal service using DNS and a transparent HTTP proxy, along with a PAC file to send certain requests to the proxy.

      The content Netflix shows you is based on which location you appear to be coming from. For instance, you can reuse your existing Netflix account from Canada and access US-only content.

    18. Re:Run your own by iced_tea · · Score: 2

      If you do a SOCKS proxy, try one of these to catch the traffic... should catch almost anything if properly configured.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_proxifiers

    19. Re:Run your own by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why when there are so many services? And to answer the OPs question, look at the review here. http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-really-take-anonymity-seriously-111007/

    20. Re:Run your own by vlm · · Score: 1

      Yes I do agree that generally, torrents are a better product, less DRM and less advertising, and some media is only released to certain countries... Just make sure to do it for that reason, not out of some misguided idea of saving money.

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    21. Re:Run your own by koan · · Score: 1

      Then your exit is Amazon's network, is that a good idea?

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    22. Re: Run your own by Guppy · · Score: 1

      cheap

      If you have friends or family living in the US willing to assist, perhaps you could one up at their house and run your VPN for free? I've been wondering how well a ordinary consumer-level router (preferably one of the higher-end consumer routers) running TomatoVPN or similar firmware would work for this purpose.

      Of course, it goes without saying that you need to be considerate of their bandwidth (residential service upload bandwidth is usually quite limited), and their provider's TOS and such.

    23. Re:Run your own by unrtst · · Score: 2

      Good idea. But you can only tunnel traffic originating from programs supporting the SOCKS protocol, right ?

      Wrong. Since you own both ends, it's trivial to set up ppp over ssh to make it a real and routable link. Here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ppp-ssh/

    24. Re:Run your own by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      TFS specifically states services that are legal in the US... Where Amazon's exit nodes would be... though finding a nice VPS may offer better advantages, depending on availability and included bandwidth.

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    25. Re:Run your own by dskoll · · Score: 1

      PPP over SSH is a bad idea. In general, running TCP over TCP leads to nasty timing problems.

      OpenVPN is free, easier to set up than PPP-over-SSH and doesn't have the TCP-over-TCP timing problems.

    26. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if the service is legal why use VPN?

    27. Re:Run your own by Cragen · · Score: 1

      Lovely. This was upgraded to "Insightful"? Good grief. There is a different between "screwed up" and "screwed over".

    28. Re:Run your own by psych0sis · · Score: 1

      Much content provided to the US on Hulu and other streaming sites are blocked across the pond. A good tunnel allows that stuff to stream where it is otherwise blocked.

    29. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This works pretty good over ssh:
      https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle

      Transparent proxy server that works as a poor man's VPN. Forwards over ssh. Doesn't require admin. Works with Linux and MacOS. Supports DNS tunneling

    30. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO don't do the EC2 its like 25 bucks a month for a couple of movies or about $7.5 just to host the image that was already there if you don't use bandwidth.
      not a good deal.

    31. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I need to get to work reliably every day, i live next to subway station, my workplace is next to subway station, subway goes every 3minutes. Yep, i'll get an gold and diamond decorated toyota aygo which costs 2 000 000$ while being worth just 30 000$ even with all that gold and polish.

      Point being: Amazon EC2 is nothing special, maybe even worse than "standard cloud vps" (which neither are nothing special really), it merely is the most expensive VM service you can buy.

    32. Re:Run your own by Skal+Tura · · Score: 1

      First you need to spot that your VM is compromised and someone is listening in the middle... oops!

    33. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the service is to be used on anything which might in some twisted mind, no matter how far fetched, lessen the amount of coin in the pockets of MAFIAA it is and will be illegal and you are headed towards major ass pounding.

    34. Re:Run your own by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Just after your VPN, the traffic isn't encrypted anymore by the VPN. So someone could listen to the ethernet plug just outside your VPN and he'll get the same data as if he was listening "inside" the VPN. So an intrusion isn't really something you should be worrying about.

      The only worry is if the someone also uses your VPN - or your machine - to do illegal stuff (you'd be liable). But then it's true of all your machines...

    35. Re:Run your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only free for a year, and then becomes quite pricey. Cool, though.

    36. Re:Run your own by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Awww. You are jealous that my stupid comment got modded up.

      I'm not sure why, it's not like you can but food with karma points.

    37. Re:Run your own by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      Nope, you can use any program if you use tsocks.
      man tsocks :)

  2. VPS FTW by expat.iain · · Score: 1

    Get a UK based VPS service and terminate your VPN there.

    1. Re:VPS FTW by expat.iain · · Score: 1

      s/UK/US/

  3. Is it legal? by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    Is this thing legal? I can imagine the local MPAA-lookalike not being happy that someone gets their streaming service from abroad.
    And, if it's legal... as an European, how can I sign up for that?

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    1. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    2. Re:Is it legal? by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's practically zero chance of them finding out. They would need to somehow know that the IP address of the VPN server is illegitimate (that's pretty unlikely already), and then convince that VPN service to hand over your personally identifiable information.

      And if they do catch you, what crime do they have you for? Violation of the terms of service?

    3. Re:Is it legal? by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      AIUI using a VPN, proxy or similar service to access the internet is not in itself illegal. However if you use it to access sites that are supposed to be geographically restricted then you are likely to be breaking the terms of service of those sites. This then raises the quesiton of whether those terms of service form a legally enforceable contract.

      For pay services you are also likely to need a US payment method.

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    4. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen people go to jail for violating a TOS agreement. Here in the US, TOS violation can be considered as unauthorized use/computer trespass.

      Since the UK extradites on a whim, it is highly unlikely it might happen, but the possibility exists.

    5. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as long as he's watching anonymously (without signing up) there's no contract.

    6. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Legal? Well, if you're concerned about that - or anonymity - you should probably be looking a VPNs which accept Bitcoin in payment. *Those* are the providers that actually care about protecting their clients. Here's a list:

      https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Connectivity

      Bitcoin does have its uses...

    7. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's likely against someone's terms and conditions.

      For one person who is watching stuff he would be allowed to watch in his home country - who cares? It's not like the guy is trying to pirate this stuff on torrent networks or inviting hundreds of people around his house to watch it.

    8. Re:Is it legal? by fearofcarpet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What really irks me about geographical restrictions is their totalitarian approach. I keep a permanent address in the US along with a few bank accounts and whatnot. But if I subscribe to a US-based service with my American address and bank account, I'm only allowed to use it while I'm physically within the US. I understand the reasoning--that stuff airs abroad at different times and with different distribution/carrier agreements--but as far as Hulu or Netflix is concerned, I live in the US and just travel 99% of the time... I mean, I still have to file US taxes (because taxes are based on citizenship and residence, so I get to file taxes in two countries) but PayPal/Hulu/Netflix/etc. throw a temper tantrum unless I log in through a US-based VPN... Anyway, it seems unlikely that a citizen living abroad who pays for a streaming service in their own country would be extradited for violating the TOS; more likely to happen to someone re-selling access or broadcasting it in a pub or something.

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    9. Re:Is it legal? by houstonbofh · · Score: 2
    10. Re:Is it legal? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you have not. A ToS violation is the breaking of a contract -- a civil matter. You can get sued for breach of contract, but you cannot go to jail.

    12. Re:Is it legal? by lucidlyTwisted · · Score: 1

      Copyright infringement. That used to be a civil mater...

    13. Re:Is it legal? by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

      If the OP is only using Hulu and Netflix, it doesn't matter. They're not going to subpoena the service's logs just on the chance that you might not be in the US.

      TorrentFreak's article is more about BitTorrent piracy. In that case, any US-based service ultimately has to comply with a lawful court order, so they're vulnerable even if they say they don't keep logs.

    14. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think the point is that the VPNs which claim not to keep logs - but don't accept Bitcoin - *still* know who you are; by virtue of the fact that electronic payments to them are linked to your identity. That is not the case with Bitcoin, properly used.

      You may be interested in Rick Falkvinge's take on it:

      http://falkvinge.net/2011/09/27/never-trust-a-vpn-provider-that-doesnt-accept-bitcoin/

    15. Re:Is it legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you have not. A ToS violation is the breaking of a contract -- a civil matter. You can get sued for breach of contract, but you cannot go to jail.

      STFU and wait for the officially-licensed BluRay release for your region. Or we'll send a drone up your ass. America, fuck YEAH!

    16. Re:Is it legal? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      First, always go with more security than you need, not exactly what you need. That way when you find out your estimation was off, you have some leeway.

      Next, a court order can not make logs that do not exist magically appear... They are counting on the fact that the *IAAs are notoriously slow and they order will come long after any useful information is gone.

    17. Re:Is it legal? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      They know who you are, but may have no way to tie any specific traffic to you. All they could give is a list of all customers.

      As to the article, it is insightful, and he has a good point. But a dishonest player can still give your real IP address, and that is traceable to you.

    18. Re:Is it legal? by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

      Next, a court order can not make logs that do not exist magically appear...

      If the court order says "you will held liable if you don't keep logs" then yes, they can. And it's not just logs. Any information the service has about you is potentially discoverable. It's all a matter of how much you've pissed off whoever it is that's coming after you. If you're a pedophile terrorist drug lord, no company is going to be withstand the pressure.

  4. Roll Your Pwn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Micro instances on Amazon EC2 are super cheap. This begs for a "roll your own" type of solution.

  5. DIY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a VPS to build VPN service by yourself,
    or just ask a friend at US for sharing network connection ( many home router with OpenWRT/DD-WRT can be a VPN server)

  6. WiTopia, TunnelBear by jaffray · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using WiTopia a little over a year and had no problems with it.

    BoingBoing recently posted a link to TunnelBear, which has several positive reputable reviews.

    1. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have used WiTopia for two years now. I am very happy with the service and it is less than $10 a month with tons of servers available.

    2. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Blahah · · Score: 1

      I also use Witopia from the UK. It has about 30 different servers you can connect to in different cities around the world - I use it all day to listen to Pandora and occasionally watch Hulu. Also good for watching the BBC from abroad and watching Japanese channels from the UK.

      Excellent service all-round - high speeds and a choice of four VPN protocols.

    3. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have used Witopia for nearly two years and it just works. Simple to install, simple to use. The price is about $60/year. I plan to keep using Witopia.

    4. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using Witopia in the US (using it now). Pretty good service.

    5. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use have used hotspotvpn.com for 7 years now (and recently their tiny hardware firewall). No software no configuration just plug it in and I can get to Hulu, Netflix, anything from several devices at once. You can use any of their servers or let it choose for you.
      Cool.

    6. Re:WiTopia, TunnelBear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Towards the end of 2011, I paid the $40 to TunnelBear (normally $60). Barely worked, slow as fucking shit, no response to 6 support emails, fuck them. Just wrote the money off, but not before burning those fuckers to the ground in newsgroups, forums, blogs, etc.

      Went with WiTopia about a month later, it's been rock solid, butt-easy to use, wirespeed fast, and tons of locations & protocols. Sheesh, why didn't I find them before TunnelTurd.

      WiTopia gets a big thumbs up. TunnelFuck gets 2 used pieces of toilet paper shoved up their nostrils, in case you didn't pick up on my subtlety earlier...

  7. VPS should work by CmdrEdem · · Score: 2

    You can use basic VPS service (I use vps.net myself for my site hosting and works fine), set up a Linux distro you like and use Putty on your machine to tunnel over. And there you go: Secure VPN.

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  8. Astrill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in China and use Astrill (www.astrill.com). It's cheap and stable. I run Netflix, stream from NBC, and occasionally Skype with it. Streaming video like Netflix is smooth, but the quality isn't super high. So far my only real complaint is that they have a client software that sits on your desktop. Good luck!

    1. Re:Astrill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in China and use Astrill (www.astrill.com). It's cheap and stable. I run Netflix, stream from NBC, and occasionally Skype with it. Streaming video like Netflix is smooth, but the quality isn't super high. So far my only real complaint is that they have a client software that sits on your desktop. Good luck!

      I too use Astrill, from Canada and am very happy with it.

      I am not sure what "trust" in the original article means. Reliable service for streaming; or identity protection? Is the latter relevant here?

  9. Unblock Us by titten · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been using http://unblock-us.com/ for a few months (not affiliated in any way), and I like their approach. You change the DNS servers in your router, and it directs the traffic for you. That way, you can use Netflix et.al from devices that don't support VPN clients (like your smart TV/XBOX/AppleTV etc).

    1. Re:Unblock Us by scyph · · Score: 1

      Seconded.

      As it's DNS based routing (requests for US-centric services get proxied via their US servers), not *all* your traffic goes via the VPN, so if you happen to have 100M cable to your house, you're not throttled by the limitations of routing everything via the VPN's bandwidth. And, as titten says, it enables it across all devices on your network (assuming you configure your router to use their DNS servers), not just the VPN initator; it 'just works'.

    2. Re:Unblock Us by fearofcarpet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A friendly warning from experience: I have lived in Europe for about as long as Hulu has existed and have found them to be incredibly aggressive at blocking free and pay-for proxies/VPNs. I tried all sorts different services and eventually each was blocked by Hulu, usually within 3-6 months. None of the others, mind you--Netflix, and and all the networks and studios continue to work. (And most use some sort of region-checking URL as a gateway, meaning you can direct just that one connection through the proxy, and then stream at full-speed.) I certainly hope unblock-us continues to evade Hulu (and I like the DNS approach), but if you use Hulu a lot, I would start looking for Plan B now, just to be safe.

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    3. Re:Unblock Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used this in India for over a year. cheap and simple, amazingly effective.

    4. Re:Unblock Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This! Unblock.us works like a charm for most geographically restricted services, completely hassle free and at a very reasonable price.

    5. Re:Unblock Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using http://unblock-us.com/ for a few months (not affiliated in any way), and I like their approach. You change the DNS servers in your router, and it directs the traffic for you. That way, you can use Netflix et.al from devices that don't support VPN clients (like your smart TV/XBOX/AppleTV etc).

      Yep, i use it too and the service works really well! just change your DNS servers and voila!

    6. Re:Unblock Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use this service too. I recommend it for video/music services. Regarding Hulu and HuluPlus - it works most of the time although occasionally there are streaming slow downs. Other services such as Netflix, Vudu, Pandora, work great. It's rough 1/2 what you'd pay for a VPN.

      Using a VPN for anonymity is never guaranteed but I recommend the TorrentFreak article quoted above. Many services may sell you out if forced with to with a subpoena. Pick a service that officially keeps no logs of activity.

    7. Re:Unblock Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just wanted to point out, if you're using Unblock-US as your DNS on your router, and you're using DNSMasq, set the "strict-order" and set another DNS as your 3rd DNS, so if your IP changes you don't have to change your DNS settings to log into the site to set your authorized IP again.

  10. TPB FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Actually, The Pirate Bay has its own VPN service, which costs 5 eur a month. Though I don't, personally, use it (yet), I think that if I was to trust someone for VPN service, it sure as hell would be TPB. It's called IPredator (.se)

    1. Re:TPB FTW by icebraining · · Score: 1

      It's in Sweden, though, so it doesn't work as a way to access Netflix & etc.

  11. Why! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why go through all that trouble just to watch crappy, advertising-riddled American TV? You're in Europe! I don't understand why anyone would *want* to watch US TV unless they had no other choice (meaning, they live in the US).

    1. Re:Why! by couchslug · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't watch US TV and I DO live in the US.

      Go enjoy Europe.

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    2. Re:Why! by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why go through all that trouble just to watch crappy, advertising-riddled American TV? You're in Europe! I don't understand why anyone would *want* to watch US TV unless they had no other choice (meaning, they live in the US).

      Just watch BBC and see what will be on US TV in a few years.

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    3. Re:Why! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why go through all that trouble just to watch crappy, advertising-riddled American TV? You're in Europe! I don't understand why anyone would *want* to watch US TV unless they had no other choice (meaning, they live in the US).

      DUDE! Where else can I watch night after night of uninformative TV documentaries about the Jersey Shore????

    4. Re:Why! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That might be true for the BBC but have you ever watched French (or even worse Italian) TV? Just because there are less ads doesn't make it better. European TV shows are mostly crap. There's a reason why Europeans flock to the intertubes to get their fix of Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc.

    5. Re:Why! by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      Why go through all that trouble just to watch crappy, advertising-riddled American TV

      Paid streaming services don't tend to have ads.

      Yet.

      Most free shows from network websites do.

      But if you want to argue about "mine is better", there was a great 6502 vs. Z80 and Atari vs. Amiga debate yesterday - it made me feel young again!

    6. Re:Why! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      European freeloaders continue to infringe on the copyright of countless american television shows. Too bad you guys are desperate for US made entertainment. Besides.. Eurpoean movies... LOL. have they stopped being shitty by now at-least?

    7. Re:Why! by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

      I don't watch TV period. I'm in Europe btw.

      Go enjoy your books!

    8. Re:Why! by rhart96 · · Score: 1

      As an American living in England, American TV is much better.

    9. Re:Why! by CavemanKiwi · · Score: 1

      I am curious what about American TV is better ? What shows or type of shows are missing in the UK?

    10. Re:Why! by rhart96 · · Score: 1

      I haven't been able to get into any British show besides Black Books. Don't know why but I havent been able too. As for American programming on British TV I find that they are behind on a lot of shows and seem to run the same set of reruns a lot.

    11. Re:Why! by Wingfat · · Score: 0

      exactly! becasue almost 80% of American TV shows are re-done British ones you could see on the BBC! lol.. Being Human, Life On Mars, the Idol shows ect... all were better over there before Coke and Pepsi and Dinsney got ahold of them all ;-)

    12. Re:Why! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there have been some very good shows on European TV that have found their way into English TV. Here are some that I have seen in the last year alone:

      France: Le Spirale
      Italy: Inspector Montebano
      Denmark: Borgen, Those Who Kill, The Killing
      Sweden: Wallander

      As for non-BBC shows within the UK, we've had Downton Abbey, Titanic (ITV), Misfits, Campus (Channel 4). Channel 5 is mostly reality TV dreck and imports, though.

      All told, you have the makings of a decent few months of TV watching. And none of the idiotic one-liner retard-vision that American TV specialises in. In Europe, people don't need a joke to be started and finished in the same breath and a new one within 30 seconds to be entertained.

    13. Re:Why! by Deekin_Scalesinger · · Score: 1

      Peep Show - google it. You'll thank me later.

      --
      "As the intrepid kobold companion continues his journey, he begins to wonder... if priests raises dead, why anybody die?
    14. Re:Why! by Deekin_Scalesinger · · Score: 1

      Should have put this in my first post - Father Ted and the IT Crowd - also Graham Lineham productions along with Black Books. He has a habit of making great shows that end well before their time (which maybe is part of the reason why they are great shows!)

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      "As the intrepid kobold companion continues his journey, he begins to wonder... if priests raises dead, why anybody die?
  12. Netflix is now available for UK and Ireland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...and on top of that, there's also Lovefilm from amazon. Which country are you based on?

    1. Re:Netflix is now available for UK and Ireland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personal experience: Netflix in the UK (and Lovefilm) have a minuscule selection of Watch Instantly movies. I mean minuscule. I can scroll throught the entire collection of science fiction/fantasy in a few seconds (the main display option is scrolling sideways through images of DVD cases, maybe 50, max.). I think there's might be as many as a thousand titles in there total, if you include all the categories I haven't even looked at. It's as bad as it was during the first month that Netflix had Watch Instantly up and running in the US, if not worse, and it's not getting better. There's a reason people here want the US Netflix. US Netflix selection doesn't suck.

  13. One good one by jjp9999 · · Score: 2

    Well, keep in mind just about any of them would give your data over if the authorities came knocking, but I know HotSpot Shield doesn't store user IP info (just don't use their free service - puts a big ad on every page you visit). So in other words, even if the authorities came to their door and offered them a billion dollars for your IP, they wouldn't be able to give it because they don't have it. But they have said they would start storing IPs if a law were passed saying they had to.

    1. Re:One good one by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      Here is a list of several and the logging policies they admit to using. http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-really-take-anonymity-seriously-111007/

  14. Amazon EC2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kind of like what dskoll said, but you could use Amazon EC2 for free for a year if you make your server the minimal configuration that is free tier eligible. Just spin up a Ubuntu Server instance and toss Openvpn server on there.

  15. http://www.prq.se/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In their own words:

    Welcome to PRQ! We are a specialized hosting and internet service provider, located in Sweden, a free-speech haven. We serve a growing community of international clients with special needs.

  16. Confused...and performance is a problem... by Shoten · · Score: 2, Informative

    Okay, for one thing, I'm trying to figure out why you're worried about "safe". Your intent is to watch Netflix and Hulu with the VPN service? What are you worried about? Yes, I know...both take credit cards...but they do so over SSL.

    Your biggest problem will be throughput, and potentially latency. A VPN does not help with network performance, and neither does adding more hops to the route that the traffic will have to follow...especially when the server with be US-based and you'll be on the other side of the pond in Europe. So whatever service you do look at, make sure that they will be able to keep the data flowing at the bandwidth rates you need, and without causing problems from latency. And remember...latency and bandwidth are kind of related, but not the same thing. You can have high latency on a huge pipe, and low latency on a skinny one.

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    For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
    1. Re:Confused...and performance is a problem... by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Sometimes a VPN or proxy can help with network performance:
      a) The ISP is throttling certain traffic, and the VPN masks it.
      b) The normal route path could be by what is cheapest or most convenient for the ISPs involved not what is fastest for your traffic. A VPN could force the use of a better path.

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    2. Re:Confused...and performance is a problem... by acoustix · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with security and everything to do with him wanting to watch US programming in Europe, which is not allowed by Netflix and Hulu. This is why he needs to tunnel through a US-based IP address.

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      "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
    3. Re:Confused...and performance is a problem... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Latency is a problem when you're waiting for keystrokes or weapons fire to be transmitted 'twixt server and client, but it is a total non-issue while watching streaming video with a buffer measured in minutes.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:Confused...and performance is a problem... by ZygnuX · · Score: 1

      Latency is a problem when you're waiting for keystrokes or weapons fire to be transmitted 'twixt server and client, but it is a total non-issue while watching streaming video with a buffer measured in minutes.

      Mod parent up.. If streaming video is the necessity, 50ms or 300ms don't really make a difference when buffering.

  17. BlackVPN by ReeceTarbert · · Score: 1

    I've been using BlackVPN.com for 2 years and it's €5.00 a month or €13.00 for 3 months for a single server (i.e. tied to a specific geographic location) but they offer several different packages ingluding "global" for €9.50 a month.

    Just a word to the wise: they don't like P2P traffic on the US server -- actually I think it's disabled altogether, as I couldn't even update WoW through that. ;-)

    RT.

  18. Try using a Proxy Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There should be lots of Proxy Servers you could sign up for, even some free public ones - http://www.publicproxyservers.com/ .

  19. android by mstrminus · · Score: 1

    I followed the route of cheap VPS/Amazon/Rackspace Cloud and I found out the hard way that my android ICS tablet did not work with L2TP/IPSEC PSK vpns. You didn't mention if you were using Linux, Android, IOS or Win 7. PPTP/GRE VPNs worked great however, as did port forwarding SSH. You could also use a squid proxy on those setups, but that just makes it more complicated.

    1. Re:android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think you must be doing it wrong.

      I've had the L2TP/IPSec/X.509 stuff working just fine with Racoon/xl2tpd on Linux. Ditto just Racoon with the iPhone.

      Could be Amazon is blocking something.

  20. StrongVPN by Sepodati · · Score: 2

    I've been using StrongVPN (OpenVPN) on a Buffalo G300NH loaded with DD-WRT and haven't had any issues. Works great from Belgium for Netflix, Pandora and web browsing. I chose the router solution so that the Roku, iPhone, and Wii can always be on the VPN and the laptops/desktops can be switched back and forth. I have another wireless router that provides local Internet.

    Streaming works great here, too. The kids are always watching something on Netflix. I'll sit outside by the fire with a cigar for a couple of hours and Pandora streams the entire time. Depends on your location in Europe and ISP, of course...

    -John

    1. Re:StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've been using StrongVPN for about a year and have had only one outage. My DSL goes down more than StrongVPN (reliablehosting.com is the provider). The service is cheap and the customer service is really great. I run it through my Asus router so I always have an American wi-fi network in my house. I have no hesitation in recommending StrongVPN.

    2. Re:StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should use OpenWRT and support real open source!

    3. Re:StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I also use StrongVPN. Very reliable and relatively cheap. I don't access netflix or hulu through them however. For lighter traffic, yeah, I'd just roll my own on Amazon's EC2 free tier.

      That's definitely one thing to check no matter who you go with. Some content providers & file lockers block the corporate VPN IPs. Look at the forums and see if your choice for VPN service is being blocked by any service you want to use before you sign up.

    4. Re:StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also use StrongVPN but use it to get from US back into Europe to watch BBC and ITV through XBMC. I also setup a router using DD-WRT so that I can get my AppleTV connected and it works like a charm.

    5. Re:StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO StrongVpn is a front for law enforcement. I believe this for two reasons:

      1. They require a verified phone number to set up service.
      2. Their terms of service explicitly state that they will share any and all subscriber information with any relevant authorities.

      Using a VPN is like wearing a black ski mask while walking on a public street: the authorities immediately want to know who you are and what you are doing. So far, the feds haven't shown any interest in prosecuting recreational file-sharers, and a service like this will make it more difficult for the MPAA, RIAA et. al. to track you down, but be aware that by using a VPN you are probably attracting at least some federal attention.

      I live in the U.S. and use a european VPN so that the **AAs would have to sue in both the U.S. and europe to get my identity. I have no illusions though, that the feds know who I am and probably all the movies I've watched.

  21. private tunnel by pamri · · Score: 1

    I have used Private tunnel to connect to Hulu and similar services. It is offered by OpenVPN Technologies, the company behind OpenVPN, is quite fast compared to other offerings and the pricing is based on data usage as opposed to monthly plans, so it works out cheaper if you just want to use it occasionally to watch a few shows.

  22. You're using it for Hulu and Netflix, safety, WTF? by NevarMore · · Score: 2

    If the primary purpose of the VPN is just location spoofing who cares if its safe? Go with the cheapest option, don't give them a direct credit card payment (ie PayPal, a temporary card number, or a one time card) and use the one that works. If you need to do something 'secure' over that VPN double down and use SSL.

    The evil hackers in Slobenia aren't interested in your Netflix queue.

  23. Perfect-Privacy.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would highly recommend perfect-privacy.com. They have gigabit servers in the US and Europe and don't keep any logs. They also support many types of tunnels (SSH, OpenVPN, L2TP-IPSEC, PPTP, SQUID, SOCKS5) and allow multiple connections with one account so you can cascade your connections. They offer dynamic port forwarding for P2P applications but everyone shares the same server IP so It's still completely anonymous. I've been using them for over 3 years and will never use another service. (Went through 3 or 4 before finding PP) They even have a bandwidth status page so you can check and see what servers are being hammered before you connect. I regularly pull 4+ MB/s connecting from the US to Europe. I had some 2nd thoughts about the legitimacy of the service until I heard about the servers in Paris being shut down because of spammers. They pleaded on their online forum for the person to stop but they couldn't ban the user because they REALLY don't keep logs.

  24. Re:You're using it for Hulu and Netflix, safety, W by NevarMore · · Score: 1

    Furthermore, if its location spoofing for US-services the VPN has to terminate in the US. We have laws and a mostly functional society over here. Thats a huge protection.

  25. purevpn by csrster · · Score: 1

    I've been using purevpn for a couple of years, mostly to the UK although they also have servers in the US. They're cheap and reasonably reliable. You could just buy a one-month trial subscription ($6) and see how they work out for you.

    1. Re:purevpn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used pureVPN for while. Fast enough for hulu and what not.

  26. I live in China 6 months a year by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    I use http://www.vpnmakers.com/ - cheap, reliable, works great for streaming content, plenty of speed. Month-to-month billing as well, pay only when you need it ($4.85 per month).

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    Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
  27. Use GetMyLAN and BarracudaDrive on cheap VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was in Europe I used GetMyLAN and BarracudaDrive as the backend server. You have plenty of low end boxes. I paid $15 a year for my server. Check out the silver plan: http://yourvz.com/

    GetMyLAN:
    http://barracudaserver.com/products/GetMyLAN/

    1. Re:Use GetMyLAN and BarracudaDrive on cheap VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, if you make a mistake and visit hulu without using a VPN, you get all sorts of cookies that make it impossible to visit hulu via the VPN when configured. You must clear all these cookies. I presume they have some intelligence on the server e.g. travelling to Europe with a laptop takes longer than the few seconds you use when switching from non VPN to VPN :-)

    2. Re:Use GetMyLAN and BarracudaDrive on cheap VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've had wifi problems and got disconnected, but as soon as i got my vpn back up, streaming came back no cookies no nothing..

  28. Get a cheap virtual server by Helliana · · Score: 1

    I'd just use a virtual private server in the US and OpenVPN. The server i use is from datarealm.com and is $5 US a month for 100GB of traffic. If you think you need more than that, larger packages that are also fairly cheap. Seems to be really nice support whenever i have needed it.

    1. Re:Get a cheap virtual server by unclebob79 · · Score: 1

      OpenVPN is so hard to setup, dont you think? :-(

    2. Re:Get a cheap virtual server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Slashdot, you must be new...

  29. Re:You're using it for Hulu and Netflix, safety, W by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not OP, but it seems rather obvious that he's concerned about his prospective VPN/VPS "neighbors"..

    People do use these services for various shady activities, and if a guy is using e.g. a legit Netflix account /w his real name and such, he'd probably prefer not to have the hardware seized and examined by the cops (thus becoming a suspect / accessory) because someone else on the service was using it for illegal purposes.

  30. Logmein Hamagachi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Logmein Hamagachi, easy to setup and works like a champ. Use the "Gateway" option and it's just like a VPN and gives you the ability for 8 nodes for free and has a decent latency

  31. HMA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hide My Ass is probably the best VPN service around, they offer around 22000 IPs at the moment. If you're only location spoofing no feds are going to come after you. If you're doing illegal things then break out Tor, because no VPN service won't bow to a court order.

    1. Re:HMA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tried it. My bandwidth took a major nosedive with HideMyAss. The best performance I've found on my VPN service search is VyprVPN. They've got 8-servers scattered around the globe and most give my bandwidth only a minor hit.

  32. Or not Re:One good one by davidwr · · Score: 1

    So in other words, even if the authorities came to their door and offered them a billion dollars for your IP, they wouldn't be able to give it because they don't have it.

    But they would have your payment information...

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
    1. Re:Or not Re:One good one by bendodge · · Score: 2

      Remember Hushmail? Turns out they were logging traffic after all. I would never trust a random VPN to not log traffic.

      I'm currently at a university and don't bother running a VPN, but I'd check out AirVPN. They allow you to pay with BitCoin, so that they don't even have your payment information.

      --
      The government can't save you.
  33. WTF? by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    You want to pay money, so you can use services that the providers of which deem you unworthy to have, just because you currently reside in europe...

    Why would you want to continue supporting companies that discriminate against you like that?

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  34. Reliable and cheap VPN service by kangpeh · · Score: 1

    I use Private Internet Access. They are the sponsors of Freenode.net. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

    1. Re:Reliable and cheap VPN service by realrasengan · · Score: 1

      Thanks

  35. Doesn't make much sense if you are using banks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, if all you are looking for is a redirection to Netflix, I guess you will do fine with any service. Just use end-to-end encryption (https, etc.) for anything that involves secrets, which you are probably already doing anyway. Shadiness doesn't mean much in this context.

    For other uses though, a little obfuscation is essential. Not using a payment method that can be linked to your identity is a good start (cash, Bitcoin or in some cases prepaid cards might be suitable). Also, adding more hops might prove useful if your IP address is statically assigned to your person. This would increase latency but shouldn't decrease throughput.

  36. I recommend AlwaysVPN by jchevali · · Score: 1

    I use AlwaysVPN and I would recommend it. They charge by GB rather than by month. If you're an occasional user that works out cheaper than most, as the bandwidth you buy from AlwaysVPN never expires.

  37. Re:You're using it for Hulu and Netflix, safety, W by dargaud · · Score: 1

    For location spoofing, I've heard about tunnelbear by boingboing members, but I haven't used it.

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  38. BTGUARD by Subratik · · Score: 1

    I use BTGuard; I might be a noob because I haven't done much research on the company but I always get about 1MB ps dl from their netherland's server (i live in PA, USA).. .they also have servers in the US, France, and Germany I think??

    it's 9.95 a month, and it does allow you to just pay once if you'd like so you don't get stuck with bothering about ending the subscription come end of the month.

  39. vpntunnel by timbo234 · · Score: 1

    I've had reasonably good experiences with vpntunnel.se so far using BBC iPlayer from Germany and torrent downloads (there's a plague of speculative invoicing currently in Germany so if you download from TPB et al you need a VPN). It's 5 Euro/month or less if you sign up for longer, you can pay by paypal and a few other methods.

    They have had some reliability issues in the past though so I'd only sign up for a month and try it.

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    Pre-canned Evolution Links for all those Slashdot holy wars.
  40. Why bother? Just pirate it. by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason you can't use Netflix and Hulu is that the copyright holders have insisted that your money is no good. If they knew some of the money they were receiving was coming from you, they would be furious and look for any way possible to force you to take it back. They're already pissed off enough that Americans are still paying them, and they're constantly working on ways to make us stop.

    Bittorrent avoids the problem. Why keep fighting to pay someone who doesn't want your business, when even greater interoperability (anything can play a avi/mp4/mkv file), higher bitrate, better uptime/reliability, and lower bills? They don't want anyone as customers, but especially you.

    Either switch to piracy, or come to terms with the fact that you will be playing a constant game of cat-and-mouse and escalating arms races in order to do business with someone who is playing the same game with the goal of avoiding doing business. This is Hollywood we're talking about, who practically invented the idea of accounting tricks to avoid profits. Now that everyone sees through the fraudulent accounting, the endgame is to make the lack of revenue real and if you fight them by paying, you are picking a fight with the very best, most highly experienced, brilliant losers. I don't care how bad-ass you think you are, with your tricks to make a suicidal industry have revenue against its will, but you are likely out-matched. Get realistic.

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    "Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
  41. VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use amerinoc, i got 10tb transfer per month, a small 256mb ram 10gb hdd xen vm. got linux on it and made a simple pptp vpn with no encryption. my friends and i use it to watch hulu, play some geolocked games and the like. it was on sale when i bought it 48 usd for a year...

  42. thers a perfect webservice for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the webservice www.premiumize.me has specialised in exactly your demand.

    they offer you a proxy server that automatically routes you via the appropriate country to access those services.

    the great thing about premiumize.me is that they do not only offer usa servers but als servers i many other countries and automatically pick the right server.

    so you have just one proxy and they route the traffic transparently.

    you can also connect to special proxies located in the target countries if you want to access a site that is not officially supported by them, however in this case i recommend writing a support ticket with the request to add the servie you wish to use. they usually implement it within 1-3 days.

    i am using the service for quite a while now and i am totally satisfied, therefore i recommend it.

    premiumize.me also offers access to a lot of other sites as a premium user (for example rapidshare and a lot of other hosters)

  43. HideMyAss.com by hedronist · · Score: 1

    We have a niece in Australia who is using HideMyAss.com with Netflix and Hulu and she says it works great. Her boyfriend is German and he tested it at home before meeting her Down Under. They have proxy servers all over the place, so this doesn't just work for content on U.S. servers.

    HMA is under US$7/month if you do a yearly contract. A lot easier/cheaper than setting up/maintaining your own.

    1. Re:HideMyAss.com by Pinkfud · · Score: 1

      Yes, HMA is good and they have a large selection of proxies in many countries. Changing to a different one is a matter of a few seconds. Plus you don't have to set up anything in your browser like you do to use a socks proxy.

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      The world is my oyster. That's why it's always in a stew.
    2. Re:HideMyAss.com by cluemore · · Score: 1

      according to the article on torrentfreak, LulzSec was cracked last year because one of their hackers used HMA, and HMA readily gave up their logs to the FBI. HMA is a UK company. So, if privacy is of any worth to you, don't go with HMA. If you think you can use HMA to get onto torrents and share movies or songs without worrying about the long arm of the american law, think again. next stop, gitmo.

  44. Use StrongVPN by Taylor123456789 · · Score: 0

    I live in France and use StrongVPN for Hulu and Netflix. They are reasonable, have actually helpful 24 hour customer service on chat, and sell a preconfigured VPN Cisco gigabit router to share the VPN with the whole house (which they support). They also have good troubleshooting tools, and lots of servers to choose from. It took some patience to get it setup properly but now it's running smoothly. I recommend them. If you buy the router, I also recommend you upgrade to their OpenVPN servers.

  45. Here is one by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    I like Tunnelr. Tunnelr offers two services: SSH tunneling and OpenVPN tunneling. I like tunnelr because they use the most secure operating system on the planet, the infamous OpenBSD, as their infrastructure. Their rates are reasonable and throughput is good.

  46. Run your own (more generic open source setup) by snowtigger · · Score: 1

    I recently set up my own VPN network and wanted a generic solution with access to a number of countries, mainly the US, Canada and the UK. I wanted something that would work naturally with all the devices on my home network, including the Wii, Playstation, etc. The problem with a regular VPN services is that they only give you one country at a time, plus you will probably tunnel more traffic than you want. Your ISP is usually the best route for traffic that doesn't have to originate inside a specific country.

    So I've got a number of VPS instances in different countries, all running OpenBSD. These routers are connected with IPsec tunnels. That's not really necessary (ip encapsulation would work just fine) but gets me around national packet sniffing (Australia, I'm looking at you). Then I use OpenBGPD to dynamically announce routes between the routers. Finding out the routes for a provider is easy: just lookup the whois information for an IP number and you get the corresponding CIDR. Add that route to BGP and it's visible across the network in seconds. You also need to forward the appropriate DNS traffic, to get around the load balancing based on originating IP used by some CDNs.

    This solution may seem too complicated and overkill, but it works incredibly well. You could of course achieve the same thing by having multiple VPN connections from a single router and add a bunch of static routes. But where's the fun in that?

    As an added bonus, it's trivial to set up redundant gateways to the US and load balance traffic between them. This is a natural feature of BGP: if a router goes down, the BGP connection dies and traffic is routed through another path. Since OpenBSD is very light, I only pay for the smallest VPS instances, usually 128MB ram and a tiny bit of cpu for a few $/month per instance.

  47. Been doing this for months now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ive been using Hulu in Canada for about 6 months now. In the process I tried just about every major VPN provider I came across, in my experience, their was only one server that provided enough bandwidth for Hulu to work flawlessly. ViperVPN from Giganews. Most of the others I tried (SwitchVPN, IBVPN, Hidemyass, etc etc) seemed to target their focus primarily at the security / hiding part and lacked on the bandwidth.

    On many of the cheaper options, I would get less than 1mb/sec testing at places like bandwidthplace.com

    1. Re:Been doing this for months now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just realized this, the "Goldenfrog" mentioned below is "vyprvpn" same thing, since I spent time looking at who ran the VPN service I tend to call it Goldenfrog.

  48. Seconded, I've been using it for months by F69631 · · Score: 1

    I've been using HMA! for at least half a year now and I've got very few complaints. Both the Linux and the Windows client work pretty well and the connection is (assuming you choose a proper server location) good enough to stream Netflix pretty decently. I was satisfied enough to buy half a year of the service as a gift for my friend and she has also been satisfied with it, from what I hear. At times the connection doesn't seem to be good enough to comfortably stream HD video but that's somewhat compensated by the fact that there are servers all around the world, so you can also stream UK only content, etc.

    So yeah. I'll give the service four stars out of five.

  49. Trustworthy VPN Service - Witopia by lcadwallader · · Score: 1

    I have been using the VPN service from Witopia for nearly a year now. Found it to be bullet-proof, easy to configure, bounds through 31 countries and has PPTP, IPSEC, and L2TP. Support is fantastic, with Wiki support and user forums. Have recommended to clients, family and friends. Been a solid robust performer.

  50. VPNs for activists by metrometro · · Score: 1

    Two VPNs based in Sweden with strong reputations for defending users and not logging:

    https://www.anonine.com/en
    https://www.vpntunnel.se/en/

    Sweden has best-in-class privacy and media protections. For instance, it's illegal to pressure a journalist to reveal sources, which is the inverse of many countries, where it is illegal to conceal a source.

    As noted above, running your own, or setting one up for others is an ideal solution, although most of the groups I advise want and deserve a simple pay-and-play solution.

    If anyone wants to build a WordPress plugin that turns any WordPress install into a discrete VPN provider, I would super appreciate it. It's been talked about, but I haven't seen anything in the field.

    These, of course, won't help you watch Hulu, but I suspect this thread will stick around in Pagerank and serve users with needs other than the original poster.

  51. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I came here to say this exact thing. Why jump through 10 hoops to do something that is technically against their terms of service when you can just go in another direction and get sweet, fast, ad-free TV via various pirate channels.

    The only benefit I can think of would be downloading vs. streaming. But SD TV shows are small, and should download within a minute or two on a fast connection.

  52. Streaming is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Streaming over VPN is lamer, Not that you're lame, just streaming is in general not my favorite way to watch video or listen to music.
    I got Goldenfrog VPN with a Giganews account as part of their premium package, however there will be no torrents or other extreme bandwidth use through their connection they are straight up about that.

    I would also read their privacy statement carefully, I have inadvertently downloaded several major Linux distributions over VPN that were multi-gigabyte and haven't had a problem so it appears "reasonable" bandwidth use is accepted, I have also gone to bed and left the VPN running and it's still connected in the morning.

    Good number of Worldwide servers, consistent fast connection, multiple types of VPN, but again not for torrenting or anything like that, and I'm pretty sure streaming would be out though I have watched a few 55 minutes Youtube vids back to back over VPN so I guess it's more of a "how much" rather than just the fact you're streaming.
    I use it primarily for IRC and forum posting/web browsing, again remember once it leaves the VPN it's open so know who hosts your exit.

    I like Goldenfrog for what it is, but it came as part of a package, if you want more "privacy" (laugh) you may want to look at the other suggestions, just remember "Who is hosting your VPN exit?" oh and... no matter who you go with Google the fuck out of them and understand who owns and runs the service you're going to use, IMO that's more important than the cost.

  53. ivpn.net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ive been very satisfied with ivpn.net since I joined them six months ago.

  54. Hideipvpn by b0bby · · Score: 1

    I have used http://www.hideipvpn.com/ every so often, and they've been fine for my uses. They're about $6/month, more for extra stuff I don't need. I have watched BBC/Channel 4 video streams over it in the US and they have been ok, so I imagine that Netflix would work in Europe.

  55. mulvaad by cool_arrow · · Score: 1

    located in sweden. easy to use. works with linux , mac, win, android and iphone. I have not had problems with the service on win : http://mullvad.net/en/

  56. Re:WiTopia, by Kludge · · Score: 1

    Witopia good.
    Many servers around world.
    Cheap.
    Openvpn.
    Witopia good.

  57. Cheap VPS = Cheap VPN by utkonos · · Score: 1

    People are suggesting things above that are a bit too expensive. You are going to be doing things that do not require much overhead, so go with the smallest, cheapest VPS you can find that is hosted by a reasonable hosting provider. As long as everything you are doing is legal, I suggest the following from personal experience: NQHost costs $6.95 per month.
    Virpus costs $4 per month, or $36 per year.

    The difference is that you can install NQHost instances yourself, but Virpus does the installation for you. You get root on your server in both cases.

  58. VyprVPN by Talsan · · Score: 1

    I recommend Golden Frog's VyprVPN service. I get their basic service as part of my Giganews subscription. There are cheaper alternatives (their service as a standalone option starts at $15/month), but they now have 8 endpoints, 3 of which are in the US. I use them at home to access sites that limit access to people who aren't in the US as well as using the closest local service whenever I'm traveling and stuck with open wifi connections.

  59. IPVanish... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    I'm currently trying out IPVanish - they have servers everywhere (including at least 6 locations in the US), and yes, it can be used with OpenVPN, L2TP, and PPTP (on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android). Besides US servers, they also have a ton more around the world.

    It's fairly new so the utilization is really low (they were partnered with Easynews)

    Works well enough for Hulu, I'd guess Netflix as well.

  60. Perfect-Privacy.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gigabit servers in US and Europe. Allows multiple connections for cascading. No logs. You share the the same IP with many people. (Completely Anonymous) P2P friendly with dynamic port forwarding. I'm a 4 year customer and have tried many different VPN providers, this one is the best.

  61. My experience. by cadu · · Score: 1

    Linode with OpenVPN + SQUID + SSH. Cheap and takes care of everything i need.

    The Good:

    - Having a smallish vps is cool. If you want to roll other services (icecast2 server to stream tunes between friends from your bandwidth-deprived home adsl link or even a cheap portfolio page from apache) you can, and it probably won't effect the main use of it.

    - Custom, routed solutions are the least prone to being caught and blocked by Hulu/NetFlix and friends (If you're into that sort of thing. I'm not but once i tried Hulu and it just worked, for the sake of testing). (whatever)VPN + Iptables + ip_forward=1 will make that machine essentially you, without a way of detecting it's a vps or something else (unless they start logging vps'es ip ranges and blocking, maybe? too mission impossible for me!)

    The Bad:

    - Custom means manual set up. This is Slashdot anyway so it's not like people that hang around here are going to struggle with a bit of command line mumbo jumbo

    - If it breaks you'll have to set it up all over again, unless you're careful and make backups or snapshots (do we even have this capability in cheapass vpses??? i dunno.)

    Just my 2c

  62. Thanks!! by Cheeze+ball · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the flood of responses. Hulu and Netflixs so my wife can watch her shows, I'd use it mostly for silly DRM based games, Steam purchases, and Anime torrents. So bandwidth could be an issue, I don't want to step on someones donated bandwidth, nor do I wish to be cut of by the service. As for the safe, it was a question of gross data security (I should have specified) more of specifics. I had found some reviews suggesting some services were sifting data over their devices for CC data and other financial data (i.e. Steam Purchase or direct download of software). The Torrent Freak article was a very helpful link should I decide to do that vs a hosting service and OpenVpn. Again, Thanks everyone.

  63. Use a family member or friend by psydeshow · · Score: 1

    You probably have family or friends in the US who would be willing to let you install a Mac mini or SheevaPlug or some other small, efficient computer on their home ethernet network, in exchange for a few dollars per month towards their broadband bill.

    You can use port forwarding and dynamic DNS for connectivity through their router, and OpenVPN to bridge the network. Unlike commercial hosting companies there is no chance that their residential IP address will be blacklisted or that they will be shut down for selling "piracy" services to large numbers of people.

    Geographical content restriction is stupid and impossible to enforce. I will *never* understand why content producers want to limit the potential audience for their work, and why sponsors are so willing to go along with it.

    1. Re:Use a family member or friend by TranquilVoid · · Score: 1

      Geographical content restriction is stupid and impossible to enforce. I will *never* understand why content producers want to limit the potential audience for their work, and why sponsors are so willing to go along with it.

      It's because TV stations are local to a country, and if Netflix (or the streaming part of a regular TV station's website) makes it available to another country then the producers lose the ability to sell it to a local station in that country.

      The price is dependent on the number of buyers (i.e. TV stations, including Netflix). Generally a show will be exclusively sold to a single TV station in an area/country. Internet stations could bypass this by being global, so for producers to allow Netflix to broadcast across the world means they would have to either sell later to local stations at a much-reduced price (remember it takes time to form agreements especially internationally) or sell exclusively to Netflix at a much-increased price that would likely be unfeasible for Netflix.

      If Netflix becomes more popular then in theory it could support the price required for global streaming.

  64. Tunnelr.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use Tunnelr.com, never had any problems with them.

    Shameless plug: I run http://tunnelr.com - providing unlimited openssh and openvpn accounts. We have nodes in US and EU, which you can transfer in-between at any time.
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  65. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um.. buy the disc.. stick it in your player and watch. Whats so hard? I suppose you enjoy stealing other peoples hard work even when alternatives exist. And even if they didn't - what makes you think you deserve it? Does society owe you anything? What have you done to deserve that? Go ahead stick it to the man. I bet the low level workers and technicians who get fired when the CEO sees revenue decreases will love your arguments for breaking copyright law.

  66. StrongRoute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been super happy with StrongRoute (StrongRoute.com)'s VPN service. They've got a good 'tech guy' vibe and have been extremely competent; service has been reliable. Only thing is you need an invite to get in right now.

  67. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I find most funny about this is that Cheeze ball wants a "trustworthy" and not not "too shady" VPN service, so he can do something clearly illegal.

  68. Cryptocloud VPN services by Traksius+Egas · · Score: 1

    I've used Cryptocloud for many years with very good success. Not the cheapest option out there. But they have many options for connecting, numerous countries in which to connect to, and many different payment options. They take security/privacy seriously if that is a concern. They do no bandwidth throttling and no logs are kept on the VPN appliances. Well worth checking out.

    1. Re:Cryptocloud VPN services by Traksius+Egas · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention in my post above:

      Crossplatform: Compatible with Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Linux and Mac OS X
      Mobile: Compatible with iPhone, iPod, iPad and Android in both 3G and WiFi modes!

  69. Witopia. Happy customer for 2 years. by thebiss · · Score: 1

    The subject says it all.

    --
    Beware: I believe all are created equal, and have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
  70. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Friendly reminder:

    legality != morality

    It's harmful to confuse the two.

  71. DD-WRT and StrongVPN by gesker · · Score: 1

    The combination of DD-WRT and StrongVPN was a good solution for me while I was overseas. It proved to be a reliable solution. I wrote about my experience here:

    http://gesker.blogspot.com/2011/04/dd-wrt-and-strongvpn.html

  72. Re:Run your own - Try Ubuntu for 1 hour for free by dhart · · Score: 1

    https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/ Try Ubuntu for 1 hour for free on Amazon's EC2 Cloud

  73. Re:Run your own - Try Ubuntu for 1 hour for free by dhart · · Score: 1

    ssh -D 8080 -Nf ubuntu@50.12.345.67 (replace with valid IP from your Ubuntu Cloud Guest) Oh, and don't forget to add an SSH tunnel and configure your web browser to use a SOCKS proxy to localhost.

  74. MocaVPN & StrongVPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am in China and use MocaVPN. It's all right and works most of the time (not sure if outages are caused by Moca or Chinese government interference). Hulu works with MocaVPN; I haven't tried Netflix. I have also heard good things about StrongVPN.

  75. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    I didn't say anything about deserving or being owed. If you're going to bring those things up, then you might as well ask why I deserve to be able to buy the disc. The answer is that I don't deserve to be allowed to buy the disc; there's simply no conflicting interest which suggests I should be prohibited from doing so.

    The same goes for pirating products which aren't for sale. The purpose of copyright is to provide a financial incentive to publish. If the publishing doesn't happen, then the purpose does not exist. There's nothing to "steal."

    Um.. buy the disc.. stick it in your player and watch. Whats so hard?

    When I try that with DVDs, it definitely doesn't work (and never has) unless I violate the law. I put it in, mount the drive, see some directories and .VOB files, but they don't play unless I break the law. Turns out with DVDs that was fairly easy and totally undetectable. I bought DVDs and illegally played them (almost exactly as you suggest except for the illegal part) and nobody ever enforced the law (and nowdays I think there's an exemption which makes it allowed, though downloading the software is still illegal).

    But with Blu-Ray it is much harder. Even if there were an exemption which made it legal to play Blu-Rays, or even if DMCA were totally repealed so that it were legal to download the software to play them, legal for the publisher to upload it to me, legal for them to sell it, and legal for them to create it (all these things are currently illegal), it still wouldn't work well, because Blu-Rays have been actively adapting to prevent people from being able to play them. Even in this hypothetical world where illegal things were legal, I would have to subscribe to constant updates of player software and someone would have to be constantly working on making those updates for every new disc.

    Fuck that. DVDs were stupid but pragmatically handleable. Blu-Rays are just stupid. When someone says they don't want your money and they actively and continuously work to provide incentives for you to not pay them, the best thing to do is believe them and don't fight.

    I bet the low level workers and technicians who get fired when the CEO sees revenue decreases will love your arguments for breaking copyright law.

    I hope so. We should all work to make this happen as soon as possible, and I ask you to join me in getting all those people available so they can become employed in either more productive industries, or at more productive companies that aren't spending extra money to go out of their way to eliminate their own customers.

    Those people already know, though, that their employer's top priority is to reach a goal of zero customers. I'm sure their resumes are already out there. The ones that don't know, maybe they're qualified to work at McDonalds. If not, there's still a welfare state and that welfare state will have greater resources to spend on people who are unable to do anything, after our economy stops wasting resources on DRM. The sooner this insanity is over, the better for everyone, from people like me, all the way to the stockholders of the companies who are currently working to minimize revenue. When I say everyone I mean everyone.

    --
    "Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
  76. You actually may not need the US material..... by jg900ss · · Score: 1

    ....I moved to NL in 2005, from the US, and was troubled by the poor choices for TV here. I ended up subscribing to the UK's SKY+ service, as a foreigner, and it has all the GOOD stuff from America and NONE of the bad stuff. It has ON DEMAND, it has episodes missed, it comes with a TIVO like player (1TB, 2 tuners), and it has apps for the iPhone and other devices. With the advent in the last couple of years in NL of uitzendinggemiste.nl and veamer.nl one can now see just about any material online, after the fact, whenever you want. It has gotten to the point that I don't miss ANYTHING from the US TV experience now, which includes the ridiculous amount of drug advertising on TV. With an iTunes account in the US, and the download sites in NL, I feel comfortable that most of what I would want to see is available to me for little to no effort and cost (other than the original SKY+ installation.)

  77. Cloak is awfully nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.getcloak.com/account/plan/

    You get a couple hours and 1GB for free, or pay a very reasonable fee for more.

    Among other goodies: it can be configured to automatically VPN-ize your WiFi whenever you log onto an open network.

    It's really easy to use and totally trouble-free in my testing, but it's maybe not geeky enough for this crowd.

  78. Tunnelr.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out Tunnelr.com, they offer a great vpn service with endpoints in the us and europe for a very low price. And they are an honest and small company too

  79. Re:Why bother? Just pirate it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >I bet the low level workers and technicians who get fired when the CEO sees revenue decreases

    CEOs seeing revenue decreases? Have you been paying attention to Mitch Bainwol's bonuses recently? You're joking, right?