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Coming to an Ice Cream Shop Near You: Soft Serve Beer

Cazekiel writes "Sticking a mug in your freezer to ensure a cold beer may be made obsolete, if the Japanese brewing giant Kirin has anything to do about it. How? Kirin came up with a way to create frozen beer foam, dispensed the way you would a soft-serve ice cream cone. Gizmag gives us the details: 'To make the topping, regular Ichiban beer is frozen to -5 degrees Celsius (23 degrees Fahrenheit) while air is continuously blown into it. It's kind of like when a child makes bubbles in their drink, except inside a blast freezer. Once the topping is placed onto regular, unfrozen beer though, it acts as an insulating lid and keeps the drink cold for 30 minutes.'" Might make flavorless rice lagers easier to go down, but what about real beer? A hefeweizen under an ice cap on a warm summer afternoon? How about an entire glass full of frozen chocolate stout?

157 comments

  1. Ice anyone? by CoderExpert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why they don't just put ice on the beer like every normal person in Thailand does?

    1. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf? why would you ruin a perfectly good beer with ice?

    2. Re:Ice anyone? by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      That waters it down?

    3. Re:Ice anyone? by DC2088 · · Score: 2

      Why would you ruin your beer with frozen *water*?

    4. Re:Ice anyone? by flibbidyfloo · · Score: 1, Funny

      I assume it's because they are not savages

    5. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then you aren't drinking fast enough.

    6. Re:Ice anyone? by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1

      Why not just stick the bottle in the freezer for a bit - you know you've timed it just right when you open it and the release in pressure causes the beer in the neck to turn into slush.

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    7. Re:Ice anyone? by CoderExpert · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it keeps it nicely cold. The beers are stronger (6.7%) to begin with. With temperature of 30-40 celsius beer gets warm really quickly. Ice helps with that, and it doesn't really ruin it.

    8. Re:Ice anyone? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Hmmm.

      New product. Beer Ice, to keep your beer cold.

      *Ice cube containers not included.

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    9. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Stronger than what? Piss water lagers?
      Lots of real beer is stronger than that. Check out an Eisbock sometime.

    10. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't the whole point that the ice is made of beer, so it doesn't water it down? The problem I see is having to buy the same type of beer ice as the beer you.

      Why not just use those rock cubes that you can get for whisky that you stick in the freezer? You might need a bigger glass so that you don't displace the beer. And they'd need to be smooth enough that ey don't flatten the beer by nucleating too many bubbles too quickly.

    11. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No real beer drinker wants to drink slushy beer, Barbie. Then again no real beer drinker wants to drink Kirin.

    12. Re:Ice anyone? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      They would be like whiskey rocks, I assume. They're rocks (or sometimes metal cubes) that you freeze and drop into drinks you don't want diluted.

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    13. Re:Ice anyone? by DC2088 · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what the soft serve beer is, precisely? Beer foam ice?

    14. Re:Ice anyone? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      No, actual beer. Frozen. In ice cube form.

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    15. Re:Ice anyone? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, but since I don't have that right now, Beer Ice is workable.

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    16. Re:Ice anyone? by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Funny

      Assuming it's American commercial beer, the additional water content from melting ice is statistically insignificant.

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    17. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be american.

    18. Re:Ice anyone? by DC2088 · · Score: 1

      Delicious.

    19. Re:Ice anyone? by SomePgmr · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure adding previously frozen beer to your beer is better than a little water, which is most of what every beer is to begin with.

      Maybe worth a shot though.

    20. Re:Ice anyone? by Algae_94 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is there this dick waving contest to make ever stronger beers? If you really need to get your drink on, have another beer, have some wine, or liquor. There's nothing wrong with a beer just because there's a different one with a higher alcohol content.

    21. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because American commercials beers are all just Coors light.

    22. Re:Ice anyone? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      They would be like whiskey rocks, I assume. They're rocks (or sometimes metal cubes) that you freeze and drop into drinks you don't want diluted.

      Whiskey isn't carbonated, so this would likely result in an explosion of foam. If the metal ones were smooth enough it might not, but that also might hamper their effectiveness. Also, the stone ones (like the ones I have) are usually a soft stone like soapstone, that wont damage the glass when dropped in. I guess the metal ones would have rounded edges.

      But the real answer is for people to step up from pisswater beers that don't need to be right at freezing to be drinkable. :)

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    23. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sort of how smaller breweries seem to be in a contest to see who can make the bitterest, hoppiest beer possible. Great, you win but it is undrinkable.

    24. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I actually doubt he is since he used Celsius in his post.

    25. Re:Ice anyone? by pulski · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem with that is that the stones (Soapstone) only are really good at lightly chilling small amounts of liquid. Your Scotch/Whiskey will not be ice cold, just chilled, and only if you pour it in small quantities.

      I bought my stones with that idea in mind, but it just doesn't work out. They are fantastic for what they were designed for though.

    26. Re:Ice anyone? by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good beer should taste good at room temperature. And watering down beer definitely ruins it.

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    27. Re:Ice anyone? by bemymonkey · · Score: 2

      And to be fair, they mostly only drink Chang ("Elephant brand" beer) this way. I played on an ice hockey team with a bunch of Thai dudes in Bangkok for a few months, and Chang beer with ice was their drink of choice after practice... the other stuff was usually shotgunned straight out of the can ;)

    28. Re:Ice anyone? by soapdude · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Speak for yourself. I like hoppy beers (well, I like all beers). I like the feeling of not knowing if I just had a sip of beer or I just bit into a grapefruit rind. And no. No sarcasm was intended here.

    29. Re:Ice anyone? by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 2

      You don't drink the slush - it's only in the neck of the bottle - the ice-cold beer filters through the slush in the neck. On a really hot summer day, it's ... well, just try it.

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    30. Re:Ice anyone? by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I personally prefer never to have an experience that might be confused with biting into a grapefruit rind, but I will firmly uphold your right to do so if you wish.

    31. Re:Ice anyone? by CaptainLugnuts · · Score: 2

      So sayeth Lucas, the prince of darkness.

    32. Re:Ice anyone? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I found Sam Adams Beer quite enjoyable.

      Or are you talking about the big name. Coors, Bushe and Budwiser.

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    33. Re:Ice anyone? by DiogoBiazus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nothing tastes good at room temperature when it's above 30 celsius!

    34. Re:Ice anyone? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Indeed, the keeping chickens is on the rise here in the U.S., and any woman who wishes to breed chickens for food would need to have at least one cock.

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    35. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, no one better be putting their stones in my scotch or whiskey.

    36. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .... wouldn't the same sentiment apply to putting ice in beer in the first place then? If your cold beer is getting warm, clearly.. you aren't drinking it fast enough. No ice needed.

    37. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6.7% is regular beer....

    38. Re:Ice anyone? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because American commercials beers are all just Coors light.

      There's also Milwaukee's Best, which makes Coors Light look like Guinness.

      There are good US beers, but you can't escape the fact that the majority of US beer drinkers prefer the wispy nothingness of Coors/Bud. I once stocked the fridge with a cornucopia of great choices from smaller brewers. Later, multiple guests poked around and asked if there was any Coors :-P

      Behind every crass generalization is a kernel of truth.

    39. Re:Ice anyone? by akboss · · Score: 1

      personally I prefer a single malt scotch such as Glenlivet.

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    40. Re:Ice anyone? by hawk · · Score: 2

      We're still trying to figure out why anyone would put ice in good whiskey, and now you suggest doing it to beer, to?

      Argh

      hawk

    41. Re:Ice anyone? by JDevers · · Score: 2

      Same experience here. A few summers ago we hosted a party for about 40-50 people, mostly 20-45 year olds from work. I stocked the liquor cabinet and devoted the whole fridge to a great variety of different beers. It was only in the mid-80s, but at the end of the day very little of the beer in the inside refrigerator had been drank (mostly by my brother in law and myself). The garage fridge I keep stocked with Bud Light and some wheat beer for drinking while working in the yard and garden was nearly empty though.

      Completely blew my mind. I drink the stuff when I am sweating my ass off and don't want to further dehydrate myself, don't see much other use for it. Oh well, I guess diversity is what makes the world go round...

    42. Re:Ice anyone? by Demolition · · Score: 2

      Because it keeps it nicely cold. The beers are stronger (6.7%) to begin with. With temperature of 30-40 celsius beer gets warm really quickly. Ice helps with that, and it doesn't really ruin it.

      The way to keep your beer from warming up is to drink it faster. The positive side effect to this tactic is that you get to drink more beer.

      Yay! Problem solved. :-)

    43. Re:Ice anyone? by ancienthart · · Score: 1

      How about ...
      Frozen vodka!!! That'll fix up that pesky dilution problem for you.

    44. Re:Ice anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want your whisky cold why don't you just keep your whisky in the freezer? Seems to work fine for vodka.

    45. Re:Ice anyone? by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      They're also good for social events where you want to pretty much constantly have a drink in your hand, but don't want to get drunk. Drink 6 Bud Lights over a few hours, no problem. 6 high gravity beers (say Bell's Two Hearted), you might be drunker than you want.

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    46. Re:Ice anyone? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      A drop or two of ice-cold water will open of the flavor of good whiskey. Ice cubes are just taking it to the next level.

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    47. Re:Ice anyone? by MiG82au · · Score: 1

      And the vast majority aren't. IPA, APA, PA, bitter, and many of the other excellent varieties of ales are usually less than 6.7% I like my strong Belgian ales as much as anyone, but to pretend that everything at 5% is piss water is just fucking stupid.

    48. Re:Ice anyone? by MiG82au · · Score: 1

      Look at the volume of ice and at the volume of beer. If you don't go all american on the ice (the american obsession with icing the shit out of water upsets me), the dilution is minor.

    49. Re:Ice anyone? by dwye · · Score: 1

      Good beer should taste good at room temperature.

      Not everyone drinks British beer. Actually, almost no one but the British do, except on a dare, Guinness excepted from the exception.

      And watering down beer definitely ruins it.

      No argument, except for some American beers where watering them to the point that you cannot taste them is preferable to being able to taste them (my hometown Iron City, frex). This is not limited to American beer, just that I know them better.

    50. Re:Ice anyone? by dwye · · Score: 1

      You said "good" whiskey. Ice goes in crap whiskeys. No one orders a Laphroag on the rocks except to get a rise out of someone else.

  2. Mmmm.... Duff Squishees.... by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Must get to Quikee Mart....

  3. Kirin's not bad by bigredradio · · Score: 1, Funny

    I seem to only drink Kirin at sushi restaurants so I don't expect to rushing out for it. However, if this was available for my favorite beer then I might give it a try.

    1. Re:Kirin's not bad by Silfax · · Score: 1

      I seem to only drink Kirin at sushi restaurants so I don't expect to rushing out for it. However, if this was available for my favorite beer then I might give it a try.

      While I like the 90 minute IPA, I think that the 120 minute IPA might make a better beer slushie (if you could get it to freeze smoothly).

    2. Re:Kirin's not bad by gatkinso · · Score: 2

      At about $10 for a 12 OZ bottle, you would be a fool to freeze your 120 minute.

      I love Dogfish, but that this just a bit ridiculous.

      As an avid homebrewer, I have a 120 minute clone that is about to go into secondary (I used some of my wife's home grown hops!) I suspect it will be much better.

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    3. Re:Kirin's not bad by bigredradio · · Score: 1

      Where do I send the self-addressed stamped shipping container?

    4. Re:Kirin's not bad by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      I seem to only drink Kirin at sushi restaurants so I don't expect to rushing out for it. However, if this was available for my favorite beer then I might give it a try.

      While I like the 90 minute IPA, I think that the 120 minute IPA might make a better beer slushie (if you could get it to freeze smoothly).

      And completely crush the flavor of the beer in the process. If you don't like hops, why pay 12 dollars a bottle for this beer.

      Some craft brewers are printing a recommended serving temperature, which I think is a great idea.

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    5. Re:Kirin's not bad by Altus · · Score: 1

      Please post a recipe. I would love to give something like that a shot. If nothing else it will make good research for other crazy IPAs that I want to make.

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    6. Re:Kirin's not bad by gatkinso · · Score: 2

      I used the one on Homebrew Chef (halved the recipe... what would I do with 10 gallons of 120m other than eventually get arrested?), substituted my wife's hops for the Amarillo.... also I own the cheapest oxygenation kit I could find.

      www.homebrewchef.com/120minuteIPArecipe.html

      I think it is going to be awesome. Warning this recipe is a commitment, and by far the most advanced I have yet attempted. There are some nice (and easier!) 90 minute clones out there as well. Also over at Hopville there is a nice all grain (Great Divide Brewing Company) Titan clone I am itching to try.

      Long live the hops!

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  4. Real beer? by slyrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would consider Kirin to be real beer. They do also make a Happoshu but the actual beer they make isn't bad. Beer is a very diverse drink and there are many kinds and types. I wouldn't ever consider one type to be more 'real' than others. Regardless it would still be interesting to try this technique for frozen beer foam on all of the different types of beers.

    1. Re:Real beer? by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Funny

      First they came for the American lager
      And I didn't speak out because I don't like Bud Light
      Then they came for the mass-produced European lagers
      And I didn't speak out because I don't have the money to blow on fancy schmancy imports.
      Then they came for the stouts.
      And I didn't speak up. Do I look Irish to you?
      Then they came for the IPA's.
      And it was about damn time. I like hops but I don't like to rub them in my eyeballs while I'm drinking beer.
      But then they came for the Kolsch.
      And there was no one left to speak out for me.

    2. Re:Real beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the "craft beer enthusiast" definition of the term. Your pale lager is helpless before our vast army of snobs.

    3. Re:Real beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First they came for the American lager

      And I didn't speak out because I don't like Bud Light

      Then they came for the mass-produced European lagers

      And I didn't speak out because I don't have the money to blow on fancy schmancy imports.

      Then they came for the stouts.

      And I didn't speak up. Do I look Irish to you?

      Then they came for the IPA's.

      And it was about damn time. I like hops but I don't like to rub them in my eyeballs while I'm drinking beer.

      But then they came for the Kolsch.

      And there was no one left to speak out for me.

      ... because they were all fallin' down drunk!

      There, FTFY..

    4. Re:Real beer? by busyqth · · Score: 1

      As if Kölsch is anything special... Ha!
      Yes I do drink Kölsch: In Köln, at the Früh restaurant, with Rheinischem Sauerbraten or Himmel und Erde.
      Otherwise, not.

    5. Re:Real beer? by hawk · · Score: 1

      Err, why would anyone defend your sissy northern European see-through lager???

      *sigh*

      And there are only two words for this foam process: "alcohol abuse."

      hawk

    6. Re:Real beer? by Dimes · · Score: 1

      Hey now, that is a decent beer. Especially within its class/category. And really, you shouldn't go around knocking "sissy northern european" beers, lest the "sissy northern european" beers of Belgium come knocking on your door.

      dimes

    7. Re:Real beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering that Kirin Ichiban uses 100% barley malt, I consider it more of a 'real beer' than almost any other light lager.

  5. This is nothing new by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 2

    Ben and Jerry's has an ice cream recipe book (probably still sells on Amazon), which includes among many other flavors, BEER SORBET *yum*.

    1. Re:This is nothing new by beerdragoon · · Score: 1

      It does still sell on Amazon, I just bought it with my ice cream maker. The beer sorbet is a nice idea, but unfortunately you need to add 3/4 cup of corn syrup in order to make the sorbet set properly (i.e. not turn into a block of beer flavored ice). Unfortunately this makes the sorbet taste rather unpleasant.

  6. Most beer is too cold already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only beer that merits consumption at anything close to "cold" are the thin, watery excuses produced by the Big 3 breweries in the USA (Larry, Moe and Curly, AKA Miller, Bud and Coors) Real beer needs to be chilled nicely but served in the 45-55 degree range for the flavors to be enjoyed.

    1. Re:Most beer is too cold already by chispito · · Score: 1

      The worst offender, IMO, is Heineken. It goes from drinkable but grassy tasting at cold temps to downright skunky at cellar temperatures.

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    2. Re:Most beer is too cold already by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm confused: When did Miller, Bud and Coors start selling beer? I thought their product was slightly alcoholic water.

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    3. Re:Most beer is too cold already by pwnyxpress · · Score: 1

      But what about my Keystone while I'm playing beer pong? Shit could be frozen and it still wouldn't be cold enough to be palatable.

    4. Re:Most beer is too cold already by Pausanias · · Score: 0

      I'm sick of this high-temperature snobbery. The number of times I've heard people at bars go tut-tut at a bar because their favorite microbrew's been too cold? Give me a break. What you say may be true of a fine Bavarian Paulaner, but in the USA, most of the microbrews and not just Larry, Moe, and Curly need some serious cooling down due to a number of flavors that they' amateurishly been unable to suppress.

    5. Re:Most beer is too cold already by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I thought their product was slightly alcoholic water."
      As a Whiskey drinker, that's what I think of all beers.

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    6. Re:Most beer is too cold already by slyrat · · Score: 1

      The only beer that merits consumption at anything close to "cold" are the thin, watery excuses produced by the Big 3 breweries in the USA (Larry, Moe and Curly, AKA Miller, Bud and Coors) Real beer needs to be chilled nicely but served in the 45-55 degree range for the flavors to be enjoyed.

      This is mostly true. There is actually a Guinness extra cold that is meant to be served cold. They even have special taps that serve it through a super cooler at 3.5C. So I would say that unless a beer is brewed to be enjoyed cold it probably is best served at the 45-55 range as stated.

    7. Re:Most beer is too cold already by JrbuPTur · · Score: 1

      You might be sick of it, but it's still true that those well-brewed beers taste a lot better when served at their recommended temperature.

      I agree it's a bit snobby, and every time I see someone sample the wine at a restaurant before saying "Yes, that'll be fine." I shake my head, but I can taste the difference quite distinctly.

      However, I don't go tut-tut at the bartender or bother others about it - rather I just make sure it's served to me in a whisky-type glass and hold it in the palm of my hand to gradually heat it up until it's right.

      What you say about US microbreweries might be true, I have no idea - but the Norwegian ones are excellent.

    8. Re:Most beer is too cold already by eltonito · · Score: 2

      Big 3? More like "Big 1.5"

      Miller and Coors (as we think of it in the USA) merged in 2008, making them effectively one brewery in the USA. "Bud" isn't even a brewer, but a brand within AB-InBev, which is about as American as moules-frites. I suppose I'll give you half-credit for that one.

      That correction made, I will concur with the remainder of your post.

    9. Re:Most beer is too cold already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As someone who injects everclear directly into my eyeballs, that's what I think of any other type of alcohol. Enjoy your "drinks".

    10. Re:Most beer is too cold already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I thought their product was slightly alcoholic water."
      As an alcoholic, that's what I think of all alcohol.

    11. Re:Most beer is too cold already by smg5266 · · Score: 1

      Well there's now Molson-Coors also which is half Canadian, so none of the big 3 are actually truly American. I think Yuengling just passed up Boston Beer Company as the largest American brewer.

    12. Re:Most beer is too cold already by gatkinso · · Score: 1

      Clearly you have never been to Mexico. A place where the local climate is not an unending variation of cloudy with showers.

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    13. Re:Most beer is too cold already by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      "American beer is like making love in a canoe, it's fucking close to water" - Eric Idle.

    14. Re:Most beer is too cold already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Big 2 breweries, Miller and Coors are now MillerCoors

    15. Re:Most beer is too cold already by MiG82au · · Score: 1

      OK girly boy, weak tasting Munich Lagers are your preferred taste at the moment. That's fine. But don't go spouting off about tasty beers that don't suit you. Maybe I've been spoilt by being exposed to Pacific NW microbrews, but they definitely aren't as good when as cold as lagers. Hell, at Burning Man I drank a few completely uncooled, and I liked it!

  7. $8 thank you come again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $8 thank you come again

  8. Guiness by midtowng · · Score: 2

    Guiness and Boddingtons would be the perfect beer for this. Something rich and thick. Forget the lagers.

    1. Re:Guiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The suggested serving temperature for Guiness is 50 - 55 degrees Fahrenheit.

    2. Re:Guiness by arth1 · · Score: 0

      Guiness and Boddingtons would be the perfect beer for this. Something rich and thick. Forget the lagers.

      Last I had it, Boddington's was a lager, and by no means could be called rich and thick. Except for the odour, which is rich - it smells like a ripe urinal, but doesn't taste half bad as far as commercial beer goes.

      Anyhow, I think it's all around a bad idea. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. You can't buy mustard and pickle milk shake either, and that's not because people don't love mustard or pickles.

    3. Re:Guiness by chispito · · Score: 1

      Dark ales tend to be better at cellar temperatures than ice cold.

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    4. Re:Guiness by gatkinso · · Score: 1

      Well when I crossed to pond and visted the Guiness Storehouse (a vast marketing ploy, very little actual brewing) at the Sky Bar they served Guinees "Extra Cold" served at 33 degrees F (curious why they used F).

      So it would appear the Guiness doesn't always agree with you,

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    5. Re:Guiness by geekoid · · Score: 1

      English cellar temperatures. Which, historically, would have been around 40 degrees. i.e. refridge temperatures.

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    6. Re:Guiness by squizzar · · Score: 1

      Boddingtons is a bitter or pale ale. Used to drink tonnes of it when I were a nipper (because it was invariably cheaper than everything else).

    7. Re:Guiness by futuresheep · · Score: 1

      Guiness Extra Cold is not the same as the traditional Guiness Stout. I was just there in February and during my fun little "Pour your own Pint" Moment", storing the Stout at 38 degrees F and pouring at 44 degrees F was the recommendation.

    8. Re:Guiness by mycroft822 · · Score: 2

      These beers only have that thick mouth feel because they use nitrogen instead of good ol' CO2. I would guess that the process described above would remove most of either of those from the beer.

    9. Re:Guiness by MiG82au · · Score: 1

      I don't think you've spent much time in the UK drinking real ales. They are served warmer than 4.4 degrees. I lived in Bristol for 5 months and loved the real ale scene.

  9. Re:Brain Freeze Redefined by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

    Even the CSI team couldn't find brains at a fraternity party.

  10. Re:News for nerds, stuff that matters? by Moheeheeko · · Score: 2

    Everyone knows the best coding is done while drunk, get with it man!

  11. excuse me? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    "Might make flavorless rice lagers easier to go down, but what about real beer?"

    You know, Japan does grow more than rice. Their beers actually use wheat/barley/hops...

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    1. Re:excuse me? by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

      Indeed. When I think "flavorless rice lager", I think Budweiser.

    2. Re:excuse me? by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Don't kid yourself - Kirin is about 30% rice (since that's the maximum allowed to still be called "beer") and in fact if you have had one in the US it was made by Anheuser Busch anyway.

    3. Re:excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, many Japanese beers use soy beans now -- the most famous being "Nodogoshi", a lower-priced beer made by Kirin.

  12. Re:Brain Freeze Redefined by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think they will find a slush fund instead? Or just rabid frat rats foaming at the mouth?

  13. Flavorless rice lagers by XiaoMing · · Score: 5, Informative

    Might make flavorless rice lagers easier to go down, but what about real beer?

    Considering how this is a pretty neat idea that is not only a pretty big step beyond just ice-cubes made of beer both texturally (frozen foam), and thermodynamically, I'm not sure why the author felt it would be necessary to even remotely knock it in such a retarded manner when...

    Let's take a look at America's top 5 domestics shall we:
    1. Bud light
    2. Budweiser
    3. Miller Light
    4. Coors Light
    5. Corona Extra
    http://www.fiveoclockdallas.com/five-most-popular-beers-us

    I'm not sure if OP has ever tried such a beer, but it's pretty flavorful compared to the 5 variants of piss I just listed. And considering how well the Japanese rice beers actually pair with sushi (which is probably where 99% of that exposure will occur in the states), I'd say it's pretty well suited to its purpose.

    Then again, it's also fair to say that the domestic Top5 is pretty well suited to their purpose, given that they all pair pretty well with ping-pong balls.

    1. Re:Flavorless rice lagers by QuantumRiff · · Score: 1

      He might have not been referring to the Japanese beer as the 'rice lager'.. Budwiser is 30% rice:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser_(Anheuser-Busch)

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    2. Re:Flavorless rice lagers by geekoid · · Score: 1, Informative

      Ironically, those top 5 beers are also the top 5 beers in Europe. Different order.

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    3. Re:Flavorless rice lagers by XiaoMing · · Score: 0

      As interesting as that is, I remain pretty convinced it was an ignorant statement used in an attempt to belittle another culture's work and interpretation of beer, with little regard to whatever the fuck is really going on.

      Furthermore, while I highly doubt Budweiser is adding rice to enhance the wonderosity of its brews, real rice lagers and wines (the ones in question here, and wine being sake) actually repeatedly polish the rice until only the core remains to maximize the starch and minimize protein. It's very labor intensive and actually a bit wasteful, but done for the purposes of quality.
      http://www.sawanotsuru.net/products/index.htm

    4. Re:Flavorless rice lagers by uzd4ce · · Score: 1

      And actually everyone (including OP) is neglecting the fact that the Ichiban Shibori is made from 100% Malted Barley -- NO RICE!

      Additionally, it was the Germans who invented Rice Beer, not Americans:

      http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2007/07/rice-beer.html

      Prost!

  14. Re:News for nerds, stuff that matters? by HexaByte · · Score: 1

    Because "free, as in free beer" is part of the GNU schtick. Therefore, anything to do with beer has to do with IT.

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  15. Nope by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

    No it won't be coming to an ice cream shop near you because no one will eat it here in the US. Had a chance to try it a couple months ago and it's horrid. Even worse than the flavorless rice lagers that generally come out of that area of the world (and the flavorless ones from the US too).

  16. Aw c'mon, just use ice by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Besides, as the ice melts, you have more beer.

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  17. Chocolate Terminator Milkshake by khr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about an entire glass full of frozen chocolate stout?

    That reminds me of the McMenamins pubs in Portland, Oregon that serve a milkshake with their Terminator stout in it. It's a delicious combination!

    1. Re:Chocolate Terminator Milkshake by Jeng · · Score: 2

      The Alamo Drafthouse chain of cinemas, primarily in Texas, serve a Guinness Milkshake.

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  18. Optimator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spaten Optimator is wonderful right at that ice state. Yeehaa

  19. Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Loosifur · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I didn't know gazpacho soup was meant to be served cold. I called over the chef and I told him to take it away and bring it back hot. He did! The looks on their faces still haunt me today! I thought they were laughing at the chef, when all the time they were laughing at me as I ate my piping hot gazpacho soup! I never ate at the captain's table again. That was the end of my career."

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    1. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Oh my god! Quoting from the Worst! Book(s)! Ever! Written! Did you ever notice? Every other sentence in the whole! (poorly written!) book! is an exclamation!!

    2. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it British humour is lost on you.

    3. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Loosifur · · Score: 1

      Wow, man, you just whiffed hard on that one. Google "Arnold Rimmer" and learn something.

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    4. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      It's also pretty much word-for-word from L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth.

    5. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Loosifur · · Score: 1

      Really? I'm not familiar with anything he's written, only with his whole Scientology thing. I wonder if Red Dwarf pulled the spoof of all spoofs...

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    6. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering that it's a line from Red Dwarf...I'd say you just did the /. equivalent of an "Arnold Rimmer" (go look it up...) as described by the quote.

      Fortunately, people do that one all the time...so it's not as bad...

    7. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I'd not be wanting to own up to having read Hubbard's tripe SF...

      Odds on, he's full of it. Quick google search on things provides nothing but refrences to Wikipedia's entry on Goal-post Head and people quoting his line as quoted up the discussion thread...

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    8. Re:Bring this Guinness back freezing cold! by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      I was looking for beer milkshakes, but this will have to do I guess.

  20. Beer Milkshakes by dchamp · · Score: 1

    Beer Milkshakes are delicious. I use a nutty brown ale with a good vanilla ice cream.

    c'mon, try it. Dave Lister would not steer you wrong.

    1. Re:Beer Milkshakes by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I take it you never watch Cannery Row?

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  21. No True Scotsman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The average beer is around 5%. 6.7% is stronger than a large majority of beers, and weaker than some.

  22. Despite Coors' Best Efforts... by nrozema · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... "cold" is not a flavor.

    1. Re:Despite Coors' Best Efforts... by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      ... "cold" is not a flavor.

      But their sister product, Miller Lite, has "more taste." What they don't tell you is that more crappy taste is not necessarily better than less crappy taste. The "more taste" marketing campaign never once said it had a BETTER taste than Bud Light, just that it had more. I've smelled some dog turds that probably have a ton of taste, but I'm not going to mess with those, either. I'll stick to Yuengling or Gennesee when I'm feeling poor, and keep sampling quality craft brews the rest of the time.

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  23. Re:Guinness by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 1

    York Castle Ice Cream in Silver Spring, MD, has a Guinness-flavored ice cream. It's pretty good.

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  24. I don't know by BetaDays · · Score: 1

    Would you be eating your beer instead of drinking it?

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  25. Remember the Alamo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see your Homer Simpson and raise you one Hank Hill.

    "I'll be gol-darned if I'm lettin' anyone serve me a frozen Alamo"

  26. This doesn't stand a chance by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    Against my horde of snobby homebrew buddies.

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  27. "....but what about real beer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking as a European who loves Belgian weissbier, German Bräu and British ales, I hate to speculate what the heading meant by 'real beer'.

    1. Re:"....but what about real beer" by gatkinso · · Score: 1

      Any beer that didn't originate in North America I would suspect (but then again Samuel Adams has fairly decent offerings).

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  28. Denatured alcohol enemas by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    Because your ass can't taste the denatonium benzoate!

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  29. Re:News for nerds, stuff that matters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, since you asked

  30. Blowing air? Beer and air don't mix! by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

    Exposing beer to the air will oxidize it and make it taste way worse. So what you will get is nasty frozen beer.

    What would be better is to come up with a complex process of removing the water and condensing it down into a beer flavored shot!

    1. Re:Blowing air? Beer and air don't mix! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you use nitrogen and/or CO2 instead of regular air.

  31. So basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when it comes to beer you either have a choice between flavorless lagers, or bitter "real" beers. Remind me again, why even bother drinking beer if it simply is an exercise in forcing something unpalatable down your gullet? Why the hell would I want to scarf some bitter ass shit that only makes me gag?

    If you simply tell me that all you want to do is get drunk, I'll respect that and leave you to your addiction. But don't tell me it's for "the flavor" when it's all a guise to get shit faced.

    1. Re:So basically... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2

      Not all real beers with flavor are particularly bitter... they're just not watered-down-just-a-hint-of-piss U.S. Macrobrews.

      Also lots of adults enjoy a bitter flavor -- I say adults just because this is usually a taste that develops later. If it was just about getting shit faced vodka does the job much more efficiently. Nope, I likes my bitter beers because I likes my bitter beers.

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    2. Re:So basically... by MiG82au · · Score: 1

      I often have just one beer for the taste, and it's not enough to get tipsy. So unfortunately I can't confirm your hypothesis. On the other hand I can say you're a pussy and should go back to your Bacardi Cruisers if you think real beer is unpalatable. It's pretty simple isn't it?

  32. Re:Brain Freeze Redefined by busyqth · · Score: 1

    I dunno.
    Does it count as brains when one joins a club that trades a few years of vile and dehumanizing cruelty and debauchery for a lifetime of well paid sinecures coopted through the connivance of fraternity brothers?

  33. As a German,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..who is accustomed to drink beer as a sort of cultural effort, this video makes me feel.. uhh.. bad..
    like if i was an Englishman, and the the video shows the queen naked.

  34. Shades of a failed experiment by shogarth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This reminds me of a time we were in the field and our beer got unappetizingly warm. Due to the kind of work we were doing, we had plenty of liquid nitrogen but insufficient refrigerator space for our liquid refreshments. One evening a member of the team decided he wanted a very cold Guinness and so poured about 250 ml of liquid nitrogen into his glass of beer.

    Of course the nitrogen changed state but the surprise (to us anyway) was that the gas caused the beer to freeze sightly slower that it foamed. Within a few seconds, there was a meter or so of frozen beer foam standing up out of the glass. It was completely undrinkable (being in solid form), but wasn't bad if eaten with a spoon; which had to happen quickly as it started to melt immediately.

    Moral: Don't send a bunch of twenty-something researchers into the desert for weeks on end without proper cooling equipment.

  35. One Word: by flameproof · · Score: 1

    Gross.

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    1. Re:One Word: by lastx33 · · Score: 1

      Quite! Real beer should be drunk warm. Chemical beer should be chilled then flushed down the sink.

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  36. Beer Gelato by Daaelarius · · Score: 1

    I still think nothing posted so far beats the chocolate stout gelato you get from Capogiro during Philly Beer Week. Not to mention Philly Beer Week.

  37. What this really is by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2

    What this really is, is beer for people who don't like beer. I am a beer enthusiast (not quite a beer snob... yet), and I can tell you that the last thing real beer lovers want is ultra-cold, crapified beer. Don't we have enough beer for people who don't actually like beer? Like all American-style macrobrewed lagers (Bud, Bud Lite, Miller Lite, Coors, and most everything made by Anheuser or Miller-Coors), most Canadian beers (including most all of them exported to the US), Corona, most malt liquors, etc.

    Most cheap, common beers are pretty crappy examples of their respective styles. They are generally watery, taste more of adjuncts than hops or barley malt, 4.2%-5.9% alcohol, piss yellow, over carbonated, and meant to be served so cold as to mask what little flavor there is. I'll pass on this frozen beer BS, though I bet plenty of idiots who swear by Bud Light will be all over it.

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  38. You can't make "beer ice cubes" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you attempt to freeze beer you get a "cold distillation effect", where the alcohol gets concentrated into the part of the beer that freezes last. You can make an ice cube out of it, but that cube will not be "beer" all the way through. The first part to melt will contribute more alcohol to the mix, and the last part more water, so your drink will not stay the same as the "beer cube" melts.

  39. In Europe by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    We have alcoholic cider, too. It's popular.

  40. Re:Brain Freeze Redefined by dwye · · Score: 1

    Does it count as brains when one joins a club that trades a few years of vile and dehumanizing cruelty and debauchery for a lifetime of well paid sinecures coopted through the connivance of fraternity brothers?

    Who is getting the vile cruelty inflicted on whom? And for how long?

    Also, the debauchery sounds interesting, unless you are thinking of something different from what I am.