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Congress' Gulf Oil Spill Response Given a 'D' By Commissioners

ananyo writes "Many of the problems that led to the 2010 BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill have not been addressed, say the members of a commission set up by U.S. President Barack Obama to study the disaster. The group released a report today (PDF) on progress towards its 2011 recommendations for preventing future disasters and improving spill response. The U.S. Congress fares worst in the new report, earning a 'D' rating for its failure to enact any meaningful legislation in response to the disaster. The Restore Act would allocate 80% of any fines that BP pays for the spill under the Clean Water Act to restoring the environment and economies of the states in the Gulf of Mexico, but the act has stalled in the House of Representatives. The Obama administration did better, with a B, thanks in part to new drilling regulations, while the oil industry's efforts to improve safety saw it awarded a C+."

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  1. Well, on the upside by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Funny

    They scored an "A" on fund-raising from oil companies.

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    1. Re:Well, on the upside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As well as protecting them from corporate liability(fine was absolutely trivial compared to harm done), competition from the rest of society(government not only subsidizes oil companies, but restricts harvesting to those who are given contracts), and personal accountability for executives(any of them see a dime of cost for their actions?).

      The commission itself was a joke from its inception. The only criteria of which a government sanctioned investigation like this will approve is more control and involvement by government and less control and involvement by the society these industries supposedly serve.

    2. Re:Well, on the upside by sycodon · · Score: 2

      earning a 'D' rating for its failure to enact any meaningful legislation in response to the disaster.

      Because anytime anything goes wrong, Congress should pass yet another law to cover it.

      I seem to recall that the reason the rig sank in the first place, which jacked up the pipe at the well head, was firefighting efforts swamped it

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  2. But an A by BP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In a related note, BP gave Congress' an A+ on their response to the oil spill.

    1. Re:But an A by BP by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      what bp did was already illegal.

      there's a problem with how the court/justice is implemented when they're not doing time for it..

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  3. Self-evaluation. by GodInHell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obama's administration gave itself a 'B' . . . dude needs to learn how "patting yourself on the back" is supposed to work.

    1. Re:Self-evaluation. by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Still two orders of magnitude below flying onto an aircraft carrier deck in a flight suit under a huge "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" sign.

    2. Re:Self-evaluation. by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We need a new Godwin's Law regarding the invocation of Bush. The parent specifically brought up Obama's administration... but you can't make a criticism of Obama without people immediately saying something along the lines of, "Yeah? Well, what about the time that Bush did yada-yada-yah? Huh?"

      Also, I realize I am opening up a whole new branch of Bush-as-Hitler metaphors. Resist the temptation, people. That shit is old.

    3. Re:Self-evaluation. by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference is Bush actually did what I said, while the GP is just making shit up. Also, I seem to remember an awful lot of Clinton blow-job jokes during the Bush years. Sauce for the goose and all.

    4. Re:Self-evaluation. by sunwukong · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I seem to remember an awful lot of Clinton blow-job jokes during the Bush years. Sauce for the goose and all.

      Cue uncomfortable silence.

    5. Re:Self-evaluation. by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

      Yeah. It's only beyond the pale when the Repubs are on the receiving end.

    6. Re:Self-evaluation. by GodInHell · · Score: 2

      Remember how modest he was when he roped in with SEAL Team 6 and personally shot Bin Laden?

      No. I do remember when he came out and calmly announced that the Obama administration had ordered SEAL Team 6 to go into Pakistan and kill them some Terrorist assholes. I think you can comfortably assume that you will see Obama taking a few more victory laps on killing Osama. You will also have to get used to seeing it in places like text books, because that shit was history in the making.
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    7. Re:Self-evaluation. by sycodon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now, that's a narrative I've yet to hear.

      The fact is that the Left and Obama in particular have used Bush as an excuse for everything. They do so to excess, to the point of it being a Saturday Night Live parody.

      As for going back 8 years, things were going as well as could be expected after 9/11 until about 2007, when the Dems got a hold of the check book again.

      I, for one, do look back with fondness on the dollar something a gallon gas and the 4 something percent unemployment rate.

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  4. Oh really? by laughingcoyote · · Score: 5, Informative

    The administration ought to get an 'F', given that they've approved Shell to drill in the Arctic Ocean. You think it's tough to clean up a spill in the nice temperate Gulf of Mexico? Wait until we have a midwinter blowout up there, with no idea how to clean it up or even stop it.

    You'd think they'd at least learn something. Apparently not.

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  5. I'll give them a passing grade... by flaming+error · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... for doing nothing. This was, as I understand it, more a problem of lax regulation than lack of regulation.

    I don't like the "but we must do SOMEthing" philosophy. Most problems are caused by solutions.

    1. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      BUT BUT BUT BUT the free market will take care of it! Incentives and all that shit.

      The free market doesn't work when the fat cats have control over all the levers of government. This just shows it once again.

    2. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The free market isn't free when the laws are purchased.

    3. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't like the "but we must do SOMEthing" philosophy. Most problems are caused by solutions.

      I'll agree with your disagreement. Government solutions usually need more solutions.

      Story time! I have an in-law who works for a certain energy company that had a pipeline leak within the past few years (it's not BP, and I honestly don't remember the name). He's a manager for a department of about a hundred people whose primary job is to produce reports to accommodate whatever silly requests the government agents want. Among the requests I've heard about:

      • Daily updates on the age of a pipeline
      • Metallurgical review of a piece of pipe, confirmed by four independent metallurgists
      • A list of all airplanes who would be crossing the area during repairs
      • Justification for every piece of equipment (including things like radios and portable toilets) at the repair site
      • Marital statuses of all construction workers

      As it was explained to me, the vast majority of those agents were contractors, who make requests simply to look like they're doing something, which then entitles them to a piece of the government's clean-up money. The energy company faces enormous fines for not complying with every request, no matter how ridiculous the request or how indirect the connection to the incident may be. The end result is that the government money goes to producing useless reports, the company's repair efforts get less funding, and my in-law has a job.

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    4. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by Hillgiant · · Score: 2

      Most problems are caused by solutions.

      Wrong. Most problems are caused by empty platitudes. Why do you hate America?

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    5. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by trout007 · · Score: 2

      Its all a big scam anyway. Who is really capable of writing meaningful safety regulations? Only people in the industry with the experience. So who do you pick in the industry to write the regulations? Your biggest donors of course. And when they write the regulations you can be sure they will write them in order to benefit them.

      It's like the lead paint in toys. The big toy makers wrote regulations that made it near impossible for startup companies to comply even if they made the toys themselves and had full traceability in their production.

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    6. Re:I'll give them a passing grade... by reve_etrange · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."
      --Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations

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  6. Useless information by Iniamyen · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, the commissioners were given an 'A+' on their use of overly simplified letter grades for summarizing complex issues.

  7. Re:How much money did this report cost? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    The real problem was crooked regulators. The regulatory agency was responsible for both collecting leasing fees from the oil companies as well as regulating them. Holy conflict of interest Batman!

    With that sort of setup no wonder the regulations were laxly applied. And of course the regulatory agency was frequently taken to parties stocked with all sort of goodies by the oil companies. Including prostitutes.

    http://oilprice.com/The-Environment/Oil-Spills/U.S.-To-Restructure-Offshore-Drilling-Regulatory-Agency-In-Wake-Of-Oil-Spill.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Ocean_Energy_Management,_Regulation_and_Enforcement#Gifts.2C_gratuities_and_the_revolving_door

  8. Meanwhile in Brazil.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    .... it is funny that the accident in the Gulf of Mexico was in part responsible for a very harsh response to a tiny spill just south of the equator:

    http://www.economist.com/node/21542179

    If anything, other countries have tried to learn from this disaster and the way it was handled.

  9. Re:WHAT?! by PickyH3D · · Score: 2

    That's not at all what he said; I am not sure where all of this "free market" crackdown is coming from on Slashdot recently, particularly when it's not mentioned anywhere else. His point is that the actual regulators--the government people--were just as corrupt as the people doing the drilling in this case. What legislation should be passed by the government to prevent government corruption? Anti-corruption laws? Those exist.

    Besides, the entire fiasco was not even as serious of a problem for BP as it should have been, beyond PR, thanks to the way that the administration forced them to handle it financially. Practically half of BP's escrow turned into a tax write-off (read: effectively funded by US taxpayers) for them rather than an expense for doing something incredibly stupid, and bad. Me thinks there was a bit of bias in the entire "study" in missing a $10 billion practical-expense that the government incurred as a result of BP's escrow account that was supposed to be entirely their own money (and the ~$20 billion was, but the $10 billion tax write off thanks to their spending sure made that a lot more palatable for a company that actually has that much money sitting around).

    It's terribly shocking that a committee setup by the President would give him the best grade while avoiding an A to act like it was not biased.

  10. Easy to criticize obama about... without fantasies by microbox · · Score: 2

    "I...I...I...I...My...I...My...I....I...I..." etc.

    Pay attention now. Obama uses personal pronouns less than any modern president. Yes, there has been empirical analysis on the topic. In particular, I refer you to the work of James W. Pennebaker, a social psychologist at the University of Texas at Austin, who specialises in the use of pronouns.

    None of this matters, of course, because political discourse continues to devolve to "four-legs-good, obama-bad" for the right. One might reasonably think that the left is just as bad, and they are pretty bad; however, this is simply not true. And for that, I refer you to the obama hate machine, which chronicles just how bizarre republican vitriol has become in the last 4 years.

    And your comment is a perfect case in point. In the absence of any real criticism, we have nonsensical and factually inaccurate ad-hominems. There is plenty to criticise Obama about without making stuff up.

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  11. Contractors, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you mean private individuals whose position comes on them creating some reason to justify their employment?

    How exactly is the problem with government as a whole, as opposed to the privatization of government into the hands of those who benefit not by doing their job properly, but who have corrupted the process for their own benefit?

    What does that tell you? Which party is the one who continually claims that outside individuals are somehow going to be better? Whose ideology is that?

  12. Re:commission set up by Obama? by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I dunno... maybe these people:

    http://www.oilspillcommission.gov/page/commission-members

    are all supporters of Obama... but after reading their bios, I find no reason to believe they're more or less supportive of Obama than your average businessmen or scientists, other than they were selected while Obama was in office. If fact, there's 2 co-chairmen; one's a democrat and the other's a republican. All members seem to be experts in their various fields, specifically marine ecosystems, engineering and oil extraction/spill cleanup (a couple of Exxon Valdez veterans on that list; sounds very useful and logical to me).

    Briefly perusing the meeting minutes, it seems they've been up to a lot more than grading Congress and Obama's administration, anyway. If you have a problem with what they're doing, this site's where to go to learn more, and it's surprisingly full of info.