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Company Accidentally Fires Entire Staff Via Email

redletterdave writes with an amusing tale of missent email. From the article: "On Friday, more than 1,300 employees of London-based Aviva Investors walked into their offices, strolled over to their desks, booted up their computers and checked their emails, only to learn the shocking news: They would be leaving the company. The email ordered them to hand over company property and security passes before leaving the building, and left the staff with one final line: 'I would like to take this opportunity to thank you and wish you all the best for the future. 'This email was sent to Aviva's worldwide staff of 1,300 people, with bases in the U.S., UK, France, Spain, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Ireland, Germany, Norway, Poland, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Finland and the Netherlands. And it was all one giant mistake: The email was intended for only one individual."

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  1. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It will now be two people leaving the company!

    1. Re:Wrong by Lohrno · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe ...Unless the guy they fired was in charge of sending out dismissals. This was his final (possibly intentional) mistake. :D

    2. Re:Wrong by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It will now be two people leaving the company!

      In the immediate, yes. However I suspect dozens more will follow them upon realizing that the company endorses firing people via e-mail using a form letter. It's a universally bad sign when a company has streamlined it's firing process to that degree. I worked for a company where the phrase "is no longer with the Company" was so common I had to setup an Outlook filter to mark them read and remove them from my inbox. A high turnover rate is an unambiguous indicator of bad management.

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    3. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good, Let's start from you :D

    4. Re:Wrong by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, to be a fly on the wall when HR told him to fire himself via e-mail.

    5. Re:Wrong by Rakishi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it also means the company has no idea who to hire and keeps hiring morons.

    6. Re:Wrong by bws111 · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you read the article, you will see that nobody was fired. Someone was leaving the company, and they got a note reminding of them of contractual obligations, procedures to be followed, and a thanks for years of service. That person would have found nothing odd at all about receiving the note. It was the people who weren't expecting the note who assumed they were fired.

    7. Re:Wrong by Jawnn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And it is, generally, a worse thing to continually hire unproductive employees. In other words, "bad management".

    8. Re:Wrong by paiute · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are always unproductive employees.

      No lie. At my company, about half of the employees have below average productivity.

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    9. Re:Wrong by WillHirsch · · Score: 5, Informative

      Slow down there, champ. Despite TFA being headlined "[FULL TEXT]", the full contents of the email doesn't appear in the article.

      The link to Reuters in the article doesn't either, but contains the following statement from Aviva's spokesman: "An email which was intended for a member of staff who was leaving today was accidentally sent to all Aviva Investors staff worldwide."

      In other words, the intended recipient was well aware he/she was leaving, not even necessarily fired, and a form letter is used to lay out information outgoing staff need to be aware of. Worth a giggle at how for a moment it might have looked like all the staff had received a surprise sacking, but not really an excuse to get out your pet grievance about large organisational structures.

    10. Re:Wrong by newcastlejon · · Score: 5, Funny

      We apologise again for the fault in the email. Those responsible for sacking the person who has just been sacked have been sacked.

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    11. Re:Wrong by Nimloth · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear they immediately sent out 1,299 apology emails.

    12. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear they immediately sent out 1,299 apology emails.

      Well, they certainly tried to, but in an ironic twist, the apology email only went to the 1 person they were originally intending to fire.

    13. Re:Wrong by flatt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Morons who, in turn, send form letter emails firing all of the other morons. Where's the problem?

    14. Re:Wrong by Cylix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dark Helmet: Careful you idiot! I said across her nose, not up it!
      Laser Gunner: Sorry sir! I'm doing my best!
      Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
      Major Asshole: I did sir. He's my cousin.
      Dark Helmet: Who is he?
      Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
      Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
      Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
      Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
      Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
      Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
      [Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
      Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
      Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!
      [Dark Helmet pulls his face shield down]
      Dark Helmet: Keep firing, assholes!

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    15. Re:Wrong by Bobtree · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you mean 1,298.

    16. Re:Wrong by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 4, Informative

      Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The opening credits have an awesome joke where they promise to sack the people responsible, then they promise to sack the people who were supposed to do the previous round of sackings...

    17. Re:Wrong by newcastlejon · · Score: 4, Informative

      They say a picture is worth a thousand words, which is patently bunk since this obviously couldn't contain 5 million words... unless you can read really fast.

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    18. Re:Wrong by Sulphur · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man, to be a fly on the wall when HR told him to fire himself via e-mail.

      Then you can be fired from HR?

    19. Re:Wrong by TrekkieGod · · Score: 4, Informative

      average != median. Woosh !

      That is incorrect. The median is most certainly a type of average. The mean is another type of average, and the mode is yet another type of average. Most of the time, when people say "average", they are referring to the mean, but all three of those are averages.

      In addition, it's generally a good assumption that productivity at a company will follow a normal distribution, in which case the median and the mean have the same value.

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    20. Re:Wrong by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 5, Funny

      At my company we employ one guy to sit around and do nothing.

      We do too. We call him the CEO.

      Hold on a second, I just got an email; I'll be right back.

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    21. Re:Wrong by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, you invite the person into your office and tell them they're fired.

      It's more a matter of basic human decency. They're still people. They're still your employees. Most people will interpret this as a complete lack of respect, and many of them will look for a company that treats them as human beings rather than machines and an email address.

    22. Re:Wrong by Nyder · · Score: 5, Funny

      People don't need an excuse to gripe, just an opportunity.

      God tell me about it? Give anyone a chance and they start bitching about the crap people do, it's so fucked up. Swear to god people just love to bitch about every fucking thing, no one can keep their stupid mouth shut.

      god damn bitchers...

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  2. Tacky by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those responsible should be sacked!

  3. I wonder by dakkon1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many "How you really feel" comments went around during this time that people are going to now have to live with.

  4. The intended recipient... by Veetox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This should have happened to the United States Congress.

    1. Re:The intended recipient... by hendridm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amateur politicians still think they can make a difference, and might even try.

    2. Re:The intended recipient... by mr100percent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, this country was built by rich and educated local leaders (elites, if you will), who were the doctors and lawyers of the country. They already had the respect and trust of the population, seeing as they were the aristocracy of the time.

      While many were amateur politicians, the truth was that many had served in local pre-existing legislatures and were sent as senators or ran for higher office.

      Yet more proof that the Tea party crowd has no grasp of actual history (though they have a romanticized fictional version).

  5. Didn't they put the person's name on it? by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's pretty cold to send a termination email and not bother including their name in the message.

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    1. Re:Didn't they put the person's name on it? by waynemcdougall · · Score: 5, Funny

      They did, but he had recently changed his name to Robert; staff; management; everyone; Tables

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  6. Moral of the story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never hire an employee named "allstaff".

  7. Re:Happiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would be the worst.

    First email: You're fired!

    Second email: Oops. It was all a mistake. Only one person was supposed to be fired.

    Third email: That person is you.

  8. Not the first time by bakes · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is not the first time that Alan 'Call me Al' Staff has caused this problem.

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  9. Re:moral of the story by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nobody was fired. RTFA. It was nothing more than a final note to a person who was leaving the company.

  10. Re:Happiness by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was thinking first email: You're fired

    Second emaol: Can someone fix the email?

    Third email: Where is everyone? Can someone please fix the email?

  11. Re:moral of the story by Annirak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be fair, TFA is titled "Aviva Investors Accidentally Fires Entire Company Via Email [FULL TEXT]." But, TFA links to another article as its source. But that source isn't the origin of the story either. It came from Reuters. Honestly, if you're submitting a story to a news aggregator like Slashdot, take the time to send a link for the ORIGINAL story...

  12. Re:Giant Mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I accidentally the entire company

  13. Re:Happiness by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would be the worst.

    First email: You're fired!

    Oh, yah? Well screw you all! I never liked this company and pissed in the coffee daily. And Mr. CEO, I am banging your wife.

    Second email: Oops. It was all a mistake. Only one person was supposed to be fired.

    Uh....

    Third email: That person is you.

    Damn...

  14. Re:Giant Mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SNAFU is an apt description for doing anything "legal" via email or via the internet for that matter. Unfortunately it is becoming all too much the "norm" and billions are getting bilked from the systems every year. The free exchange of information is still all this is truly suitable for. Anything digital can be faked, intercepted, etc and after all this time there is no such thing as a "secure server", never has been, never will be, not functioning and connected to the internet at least (just to skip all the "disconnected, slagged, sealed in concrete and sunk to the bottom of the Marianas Trench type lines).

    OK, everybody, ignore the ancient noise above and get back to making money off this stupidity!

  15. HR Departments by owlnation · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Human Resource Departments: the single biggest brake on the World's economy. The reason for the lack of productivity, innovation and creativity in most large enterprises.

    It's a job that nobody with a brain ever wanted to do. Actually, it's a job that nobody ever wanted to do. Nobody ever grows up wanting to work in HR. The only people who do work in HR, are those who have failed. And they bear a grudge.

    Which explains why their inhumanity creates situations like this one, and so many similar situations. With the technology currently available, real managers can manage. HR staff need to be fired. All of them, everywhere. The world never really needed them in the first place, but there's no justification for having them now.

    The first corporation that has the insight to fire all its HR people will wipe the floor with its competition within 5 years. They will have all the advantages of a small business, mixed with the power of a corporation. And they will have MUCH happier, more productive, employees.

  16. Re:Moral of the story by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I worked for a company whose very first paying customer was named Richard Test. Poor Mr. Test had his account deleted by well-meaning and fastidious secretaries several times. (We'd have just renumbered his account if that ID wasn't used in a zillion other systems.)

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  17. Re:Giant Mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Situation Normal, All Fucked Up. Well, that's what I was taught it meant. And yes it is a SNAFU if your normal procedure for firing an employee is an e-mail. Man, that's fucked up...like being dumped over AOL Instant Messenger.

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  18. happens all the time by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was an administrator for a medium size tech company in the early nineties, and we got this all the time. The problem was not with the technically inept, but with the engineers, who would commonly send emails with:

    mail -s "some subject line text" user_name (left_arrow) textfile

    ...and leave off the double quotes, so that each word in the subject line was treated as a recipient. If one of those words was the name of the company or the name of any of several cities, or any one of a number of other common key words, (like "engineering") the mail would be propagated to an audience much larger than intended. You haven't lived until you've been directed to scrub several thousand copies of someone's negative performance review from a number of servers at 11:00 at night.

    This was the same company that had a homegrown script to delete a user from the system. (Not written, maintained or owned by my team, I hasten to say.) The script had inadequate error checking, and if an operator hit carriage return without entering a user name, the script would delete the entire home directory structure on several machines. It kept us busy.

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  19. I got fired by mistake once by istartedi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It happened when I was in support. I couldn't clock in. A told the manager about it and she was like, "maybe you got fired". We both had a good laugh about it because we were all on good terms. No mass layoffs were expected, this was the go-go 90s. Next day--still can't clock in. Manager is more serious. "I'll have to look into this". Sure enough, somebody fat-fingered me off the payroll.

    It was actually a good thing--I got paid for my accumulated vacation hours. They couldn't figure out how to charge them back to vacation. They "re-hired" me and I got money. The vacation hours started accumulating from zero; but I had just taken a few days so I didn't mind saving up again. The money came in handy.

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  20. Re:Giant Mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You accidentally what?

  21. Re:Giant Mistake? by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

    The ENTIRE COMPANY!

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  22. Re:Giant Mistake? by 24-bit+Voxel · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was invented by Disney during WW2 to help train soldiers to fight nazis. yes, they were trained by cartoons.

    Snafu was actually Private Snafu, who just fucked up everything he touched. Don't be like Private Snafu.

    It does mean "Situation normal all fucked up"

  23. Re:Giant Mistake? by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was invented by Disney during WW2 to help train soldiers to fight nazis.

    That sounded facinating, but when I went to learn more I found that Wikipedia disagrees with you. It cites several uses of the word prior to the creation of Private Snafu.

    Still, it was interesting to find out about the Disney shorts. I must watch some on Youtube once my boss have left the building!

  24. Re:Giant Mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's two fuckups I see:

    1) They send letters with legal weight via e-mail and this is accepted. That's just wrong.

    2) They wrote the e-mail so impersonal, without attribution, that 1300 people could mistakenly think they've been let off.

    What a shithole company.

  25. Re:Giant Mistake? by azalin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I must watch some on Youtube once my boss have left the building!

    *bling* "You got mail!"