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The Science of Handedness

Hugh Pickens writes "Representing only 10 percent of the general human population, scientists have long wondered why left-handed people are a rarity. Now a new study suggests lefties are rare because of the balance between cooperation and competition in human evolution and a mathematical model was developed that predicts the percentage of left-handers by sport based on each sport's degree of cooperation versus competition. 'The more social the animal—where cooperation is highly valued—the more the general population will trend toward one side,' says study author Daniel M. Abrams. 'The most important factor for an efficient society is a high degree of cooperation. In humans, this has resulted in a right-handed majority.' If societies were entirely cooperative everyone would be same-handed, but if competition were more important, one could expect the population to be 50-50 because cooperation favors same-handedness—for sharing the same tools, for example while physical competition favors the unusual. In a fight, for example, a left-hander would have the advantage in a right-handed world. The mathematical model accurately predicted the number of elite left-handed athletes in baseball, boxing, hockey, fencing, and table tennis (PDF)—more than 50 percent among top baseball players and well above 10 percent (the general population rate) for the other sports. For other sports like football or hockey where team cooperation is paramount, it is ideal for all individuals to possess the same handedness. For example, in football, blocking schemes are often designed to protect a quarterback's blind side. As a result, it is beneficial for all quarterbacks on the roster to possess the same handedness to minimize variations of the offensive sets. 'The accuracy of our model's predictions when applied to sports data supports the idea that we are seeing the same effect in human society.'"

258 comments

  1. So why the right hand? by cpu6502 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why isn't everyone left-handed? That too would be beneficial in a cooperative society (shared tools). Maybe millions of years ago, the left-handed tribes died out. (Maybe they called themselves Neandertals.)

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    1. Re:So why the right hand? by CSMoran · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why isn't everyone left-handed? That too would be beneficial in a cooperative society (shared tools).

      This probably reflects the assymetries in the human body (heart on one side, one lung smaller, etc). Anyway, if all was in reverse and the majority were left-handed, you'd be here asking "Why isn't everyone right-handed?" :).

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    2. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      And this still doesn't explain why I pee with my left hand and masturbate with my right hand.

    3. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Why isn't everyone left-handed?"

          I might say that it's a sinister plot, but that would be gauche of me.

    4. Re:So why the right hand? by Mooga · · Score: 1

      Why is there no mention of genetics? It's common knowledge that many people who were naturally Left Handed were forced to switch to be Right Handed back in the day. The whole shared tools is hog-wash. How many tools do you know of that depend on handedness? I can think of only a few, and none that are important: computer mice, modern fencing weapons, golf clubs.

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    5. Re:So why the right hand? by dcollins · · Score: 5, Informative

      Writing, scissors, buttons, car shifter (first few I thought of in 10 seconds).

      In particular, writing: It's designed that right-handers are dragging the writing implement behind their hand in a smooth gliding motion. For left-handers we're smashing the point into the page in front of our hand, making it highly variable and irregular (a non-equilibrium), and then also smearing the hand over what we just wrote. Truly a pain. That's specifically the reason why my uncle (for example) was forced to switch by my grandparents tying his left hand behind his back.

      And personally, I think that writing is the most important of all human tools.

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    6. Re:So why the right hand? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      *golf clap*

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    7. Re:So why the right hand? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Define "left-handed" or "right-handed". You can't come up with an unambiguous definition of either.

      The only real definition we have is that "right" is the handedness of the majority of the human population. If the whole population was actually "left" handed as we now understand it, they would be right handed.

      The short version of this post is, if you ever meet a perfect version of yourself constructed by aliens from radio transmissions, don't shake their hand.

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    8. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scissors, plyers, knives..
      Corkscrews, can openers
      Oven mitts

    9. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a theory that the right hand its superior for stabbing an opponent in the heart with a spear. I believe it is a fairly known theory, so Google for it if you are interested.

    10. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about languages that are written from right to left? Do right-handers have smearing problems there?

    11. Re:So why the right hand? by Soporific · · Score: 1

      You've obviously never seen my writing, it would be described as anything but a smooth gliding motion and I'm a righty. ;)

      ~S

    12. Re:So why the right hand? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Writing the way we do is because we are right handed. Earlier are left handed, because we chiseled it out of stone. That is easier from right to left. At least that is what I learned in school.
      However that does not explain writing from right to left in other languages. e.g. Arabic.

      It is also the reason schools have the desks placed so the light comes in from the left si during writing you have more light.

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    13. Re:So why the right hand? by kaws · · Score: 1

      Only one thing from what you've said do I object to, car shifter as you put it. I've driven on both sides of the road and had to deal with the stick on both sides. It really didn't bother me at all. The only challenge that I had was staying in the center of the road.

    14. Re:So why the right hand? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I practised writing right to left and in reverse as Leonardo Da Vinci was known to do, and it felt a bit wierd at first, but eventually it became easier. Obviously I didn't continue past satisfying my curiosity, because nobody would be able to read it easily.

    15. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This probably reflects the assymetries in the human body

      I'll have you know my ass is perfectly symmetrical, thank you very much!

    16. Re:So why the right hand? by Scaba · · Score: 5, Funny

      At the same time?

    17. Re:So why the right hand? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Car shifter? Do you mean gear lever?

      Correct me if I'm wrong but that's where it is due to which side the driver sits, which in turn is due to which side of the road people drive on, which usually dates from the days when people rode horses (which don't have gears).

      AFAIK the Nips, Limeys and Jaapies have roughly the same percentage of caggies as Americans do.

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    18. Re:So why the right hand? by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 1

      There is also a theory that using the right hand for complex tasks allows primates to cradle a baby nearer to their heartbeat with their "dumb" hand.

      I heard of it in a book of Asimov essays. Somewhere in The Roving Mind, if I remember correctly.

    19. Re:So why the right hand? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Car shifter isn't handedness. Otherwise, you are insinuating that drivers in the UK are left-biased. As someone who has driven on both sides, handidness doesn't matter for shifting. It isn't fine motor skills. You might as well complain about how doors are hung, and that's something that even the off hand is perfectly fine with.

    20. Re:So why the right hand? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Oven mitts are reversible, at least mine are.

    21. Re:So why the right hand? by AJWM · · Score: 2

      The only challenge that I had was staying in the center of the road.

      I'm not surprised, if anyone coming the other way was also trying to stay in the center.

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    22. Re:So why the right hand? by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

      And this still doesn't explain why I pee with my left hand and masturbate with my right hand.

      - It definitely doesn't explain any of THAT! I believe most people don't pee with their hands.

    23. Re:So why the right hand? by FrootLoops · · Score: 5, Interesting

      if you ever meet a perfect version of yourself constructed by aliens from radio transmissions, don't shake their hand.

      For those who don't know, this refers to a story in the Feynman Lectures on Physics. Here's my version; I've taken some liberties.

      Imagine you're on the phone with an alien who speaks English, except they don't know what "left" and "right" mean. You want to explain it to them so they know which tentacle they should use to shake the right-handed President's hand if they should ever meet. The alien can be anywhere in the universe, so you can't refer to stellar positions or similar, leading you to devise an experiment for them to perform.

      Your initial attempts use gravity, electricity, and magnets, but you notice each experiment comes out essentially the same if you swap "right" and "left"--for instance, you could give the alien instructions for making a clock in hopes of defining "right" using clockwise rotation, except if the alien made the clock exactly backwards by reversing the notion of "left" and "right", they wouldn't be able to tell. A particle physicist happens by and tells you about a magical experiment involving the weak nuclear force that *does* distinguish left and right inasmuch as the experiment fails if the alien screws up "right" and "left" and succeeds otherwise. (For the curious, some more details here and here.) Great, problem solved.

      "But wait!" the physicist says. "The alien needs to use regular matter instead of antimatter in the experiment. The results will be reversed otherwise! Come to think of it, I have no idea how to tell them the difference between matter and antimatter. If you ever meet them and they start trying to shake your left hand, RUN, since the alien will be made of antimatter!"

    24. Re:So why the right hand? by Smekarn · · Score: 1

      Well, it's true that the "gear shifter" goes in the middle, and depending on wether you drive on the left or the right side will indeed decide on which side of the stick you will be sitting. However, the reason for driving on the left side can be traced back to the old sword-smacking-days. You would normally pass oncoming riders on the left so that you could either hail them or strike them down with your favourite right hand, so indirectly, gear shifters ARE handedness.

      I heard somewhere that the reason why some countries switched to the right side had to do with their king being left-handed, but I can't (or won't, pick one) verify that.

    25. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The car shifter is not a valid example. The shift lever is in the center of the car in the USA, and in the centre in the UK.
      I have passed drivers test in both countries, and shifted the gears with the opposite hand, or, um, the hand nearest the shift lever, depending on where I sat.

    26. Re:So why the right hand? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I wasn't talking about how they got that way. That's irrelevant to the topic. The question was one about actions/tools that have some advantage/disadvantage based on handiness. Shifter was listed. Given the large number of people driving on one side or the other (or both, in some countries), there isn't any handiness link that can be drawn. Lefties aren't more likely to crash in the US, and righties aren't more likely to crash in the UK.

    27. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh, it's because everyone else is right-handed.

      There could be a reason, but it could just be pure chance, once there is a predominance of one handedness over the other it would be beneficial for it to increase to saturation point.

    28. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's likely this theory is bunk, or somewhat bunk.

      The left/right hand thing comes directly from the brain. The right hand is controlled by the left brain which is logical, controlled, analytical, language, etc. (think: engineering) Those traits are very useful when working with tools.

      The left hand is controlled by the right brain which is artistic, emotional, erratic, flighty, unpredictable, etc. Not very good for tool use unless you're doing artwork or similar "fuzzy" activities.

    29. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why isn't everyone left-handed? That too would be beneficial in a cooperative society (shared tools). Maybe millions of years ago, the left-handed tribes died out. (Maybe they called themselves Neandertals.)

      HEY!! NOT COOL

    30. Re:So why the right hand? by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry, but that's totally bogus. Most people who owned a horse (unlike a sword, horses naturally reproduce) didn't own a sword. According to your theory, the majority would want to ride - or walk - on the "wrong" side to be harder to target.

      The fact is that we don't know why some countries and cultures got into the habit of "everyone on the right" and others "everyone on the left" - but it has nothing to do with left- or right-handededness.

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    31. Re:So why the right hand? by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      First remember that this is US based science where they assume the whole world is exactly like them. Hint, spiritual societies have a higher percentage of left handedness.

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    32. Re:So why the right hand? by Phroon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Luckily, the physicist has since discovered another clever experiment which the aliens can use to differentiate between what we call matter and antimatter. There's a certain type of particle that can transform into it's antiparticle and back again. But the catch is that one of the transformations will happen more often than the other. That means that even if the alien swaps matter for antimatter they will still be able to tell which is which by looking at which transformation dominates. (More details here)

      "Now," the physicist admits "this all assumes that the aliens haven't swapped the direction of time on us as well! Buggers might just have effects preceding causes." (See CPT symmetry)

    33. Re:So why the right hand? by SlashV · · Score: 1

      What is this "writing" thing that everybody is talking about?

    34. Re:So why the right hand? by swalve · · Score: 1

      *vomit*

    35. Re:So why the right hand? by swalve · · Score: 1

      The correct way to write is to position the paper and the hand so that the hand is below the line of text being written. Nobody should be dragging their hands through previously written text, regardless of handedness.

    36. Re:So why the right hand? by WillDraven · · Score: 1

      My dad once asked his professor about how to format an assignment, to which the professor replied "I don't care if you do it upside down and backwards, as long as you do it." Well, you can guess where that led to.

      After struggling through reading it, he gave my dad an A and made an announcement to the class that homework would no longer be accepted upside down and backwards.

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    37. Re:So why the right hand? by tyrus568 · · Score: 1

      You say this like you expect the world to have conformed. We don't. I'm left-handed and my hand drags right through all the stuff I write. All of my life I have dealt with ink drops or pencil smudges along the side of my left palm. I still write frequently and have been unable to adjust to any other style. I understand that it's completely my fault for having ink or pencil on my hand all the time.

      I also write in print instead of cursive (which looks more alien by the day).

    38. Re:So why the right hand? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Both arguments sound spurious.

      Don't overthink it -- probably putting the vital heart further away from the hand that does most of the work (and fighting) gave those organisms slightly higher survival rates, especially with respect to danger, since it was less likely a bite, punch, whack, or, hell, a severed artery in the arm, for that matter, would cause the heart to stop.

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    39. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm left handed. No one forced me into anything, you just learn your way around. That "learning process" is not hard at all and no harder than learning the first time with your left hand. When golfing, I drive right handed but putt left handed. Back when I was a teen and started hitting local par 3 courses and learning, they only had right handed clubs but the cheap putters were not specific. I've been golfing that way for decades. Scissors? I could not use my left hand for that at all even with left handed scissors whcih they tried to make me use in school. I also use my right hand for the mouse, cell phones, mp3 players, remote controls etc. I can use either one but I naturally always use my right.

      I guess the more I think about it, it is random what hand I normally use for specific tasks but it is almost always that hand for that task. I just recently had carpal tunnel release on both of my hands a few months apart. I had a harder time when my right hand was temporarily unusable then my left. Strange but I had a hell of a time wiping my ass using my left hand. Jokes aside, I've always used my right hand for that and never thought about it until I couldn't.

      Kicking, throwing and writing? Those are things I can not do at all right handed. I can bowl and bat either way with close to the same results though.

      Most right handed people I know rarely use their left side for anything but most lefties I know use both for different things.

    40. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I guess the Arabs must all be left-handed then?

    41. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the majority was left handed then surely the right handers would be elite?

      Having played games like baseball/rounders, fencing, etc the problem isn't that lefties are intrinsically better, you're just trying to play against someone who's spent all their life playing against people like you. Most obvious in fencing, lefties are a pain to beat because you're not used to lunging on that side, but as they always play right handed people, they tend to be very good at hitting your weaknesses.

      Indeed this is what the article touches on. They agree that if the population was inverted, we'd simply see the opposite effect. In some sports, however, it is desirable for all players to have the same handedness for optimal defense (having someone standing the wrong way leaves a hole open).

      The reason most of us are right handed is because left handedness is a recessive trait.

    42. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This probably reflects the assymetries in the human body

      The development rate of the meninges has a strong influence on which hand becomes dominant. Whichever side of the brain gets the best supply of nutrients and oxygen.

    43. Re:So why the right hand? by RodBee · · Score: 1

      In the old days lefties wrote with their right hands just fine - they were forced to.

      I'm left-handed and I use scissors with my right hand just fine, and the same goes for my computer mouse - I don't want people switching it every single time they want to use my PC. And I never cared about left-handed scissors. The car shifter doesn't really require high dexterity, unless you have a very old car, I guess; I wouldn't know.

      If someone is left-handed nowadays, chances are they can use most tools with the right hand, too - and in the past, they were trained to be right-handed. So the difference would be only slightly significant in cooperative activities(maybe a more suave learning curve, but that's it - and that's enough to condemn your future in football, I guess). In a competitive sport, however, being left-handed is a big edge - you trained all your life against right-handed people, but they aren't as prepared for you.

      Sports only brings the more dramatic results, I think.

    44. Re:So why the right hand? by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      Haha, thank you. Just to be clear, my original post left off where Feynman did, before CP violation was discovered.

      YouTube'ing Feynman is a great way to spend some free time. I wish we had videos of some of the other great minds in history--what I wouldn't give to watch Gauss say, "here's how I did it"!

    45. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we are already establishing communications can't we just send an image? How the heck are we communicating again? Can't use stellar positions? how are they coming to meet the president again? Seems like a hoax... April 1st could be any day of the year for these "tentacled" freaks.

      Maybe you should have taken your meds before starting your day, aliens on the phone? you don't say...

    46. Re:So why the right hand? by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 2

      I couldn't think of anything good, so I'm just going to go with:

      "These are not the droits you are looking for."

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    47. Re:So why the right hand? by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      It's not TOTALLY bogus.

      The drive-on-left rule dates back to ancient times with the first real roads. It became a custom to make passing easier in travel, which was later invoked as law by the Romans and then the Pope. The modern use stems largely from the British colonization and the crown's ruling in 1773 requiring travel on the left. It is said that this was due to the ability of a horseback rider to hold the reins with the left hand and greet or defend themselves with a sword from oncoming travelers with the right.

      The drive-on-right rule is actually quite a bit newer, in that it comes from huge horse teams being driven on common roads in the US. The driver of these teams would sit on the rear-left horse, and wanted to keep right so that he could see oncoming vehicles clearly and avoid the wheels of their carriage. Personally, I think it is largely from wanting to be different from and break away from the English rules, especially given the time frame of the English ruling and the revolutionary war.

      http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/634/why-do-the-british-drive-on-the-left

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    48. Re:So why the right hand? by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      spiritual societies have a higher percentage of left handedness.

      Do you have an actual source for this? It sounds remarkably like arbitrary US-bashing and religious pride.

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    49. Re:So why the right hand? by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1
      "It is said that this was due to the ability yadda yadda yadda ..."

      Riiiighhhttttt .... "it is said" is about as authoritative as "magical religious thinking". None of this has anything to do with the majority of the people being born right-handed, and certainly has nothing to do with swords. Even your [citation needed] statement that it was enacted as law to make travel easier has NOTHING to do with swords. So, totally bogus.

      Also, the claim about horse carriage drivers drove on the left so they could "look down to see that you were passing the other driver's wheels" is also bogus - by then it would be too late, even if both wagons were only travelling at 3 mph. Do you need to do this to drive a car? Of course not. It's all obviously post-hoc fantasy rationalizing. Then again, I doubt most slashdotters have ever ridden a horse. If you spend any time looking down, you're doing it wrong, and neither you nor the horse is really going to enjoy the ride.

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    50. Re:So why the right hand? by matunos · · Score: 1

      Fate flipped a coin, I guess?

    51. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      people like you whine about the US being bigoted, stupid, and ignorant, yet you behave exactly as you accuse...fucking hypocritical twat.. take your superiority complex and shove it up your ass..

    52. Re:So why the right hand? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      You've got to see where Arabic alphabet comes from. It is an ancestor of the Aramaic alphabet, which itself was derived from the Phoenician one, which was incised with a stylus, which is, as you have mentioned, easier from right to left. Later, ink writing was introduced, but the writing system was already established. To make ink writing from right to left simpler, Arabic script was introduced, which started as a cursive Aramaic (more or less, there were more intermediate steps) and developed into what we have today because calligraphy was encouraged by Islam.

      Hebrew alphabet, on the other hand, stayed almost as boxy as Aramaic, just with some added serifs. In fact there is only a little difference between Aramaic and Hebrew alphabets, sort of like the difference between Comic Sans and Times New Roman.

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    53. Re:So why the right hand? by Sabriel · · Score: 1

      If the alien is made of antimatter, I suspect the problem will be discovered long before you get close enough to shake their hand. :p

    54. Re:So why the right hand? by PhillC · · Score: 1

      Writing, scissors, buttons, car shifter (first few I thought of in 10 seconds).

      Why isn't everyone in the UK, Australia and South Africa lefthanded, or at least a much higher proportion of people, due to the car gear stick being operated with the left hand?

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    55. Re:So why the right hand? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      In particular, writing: It's designed that right-handers are dragging the writing implement behind their hand in a smooth gliding motion

      Left handers may prefer Arabic or Hebrew (right to left)... Or old style Chinese...(top to down, right to left).

      That's specifically the reason why my uncle (for example) was forced to switch by my grandparents tying his left hand behind his back.

      Trivia: Rafael Nadal a top tennis player is right-handed but was encouraged by his uncle to play left-handed (an advantage in such sports)... Seems to be doing OK.

      We may be better at learning to do stuff with our dominant hand, but it's definitely possible for most to learn how to do complex stuff with the "other hand". After all when you're doing one thing with your dominant hand, your other hand ends up having to do what's left... I learned to drive stick-shift in UK style cars - I doubt I'd be good at driving stick-shift with my right hand. And a car had the clutch pedals swapped with the accelerator, I'm sure my right foot would be bad at clutch-control till I got enough practice.

      Conventional fighting game controllers have the joystick on the left and the buttons on the right. At the beginner/intermediate levels the complex and quick motions have to be done mainly with the joystick - so the left-handers may find it easier than the right handers. But for some games at the advanced levels of play it gets complex on the buttons too (e.g. streetfighter: plinking, double tapping, "pianoing"). That said there's a guy (Mike Begum) who plays Streetfighter with his _mouth_ at a rather high level...

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    56. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He claimed that's the correct way. You stating the way you do it has problems doesn't contradict that... I'm right handed and I get smudges too when writing - so I'm probably doing it wrong too.

      Anyway I mostly type nowadays so I no longer really care :).

    57. Re:So why the right hand? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Earlier are left handed, because we chiseled it out of stone. That is easier from right to left. At least that is what I learned in school.

      Don't buy that. I hold a chisel in my (non-preferred) left hand, but with my arm across so it's on the right side of my body, rather like this incorrectly attired gentleman. It's a lot easier to use the hammer that way.

      This means that if I'm working left to right I can see where I've been - exactly the same as if I was using a pen, brush etc.

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    58. Re:So why the right hand? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Do you mean pliers? I've never seen any that are designed for a specific hand.

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    59. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be more worried about how to wriggle, salute, shake, squirt in the greeting of the alient. It's easy to describe to them that when the president offers a hand in that they offer the same tentacle rotationally mirrored 180 degrees. Or you could visually describe it by saying the buttonhole on the presidents suit is on his left.

    60. Re:So why the right hand? by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      What is this "writing" thing that everybody is talking about?

      Its like that "signing your name" thing people make you do occasionally only with lots more of it and different, more complicated patterns.

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    61. Re:So why the right hand? by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      H. Beam Piper put forth that handedness develops when a culture becomes aware of anatomy and learns to fight w/ the heart being guarded by twisting the body.

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    62. Re:So why the right hand? by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
      Learn to read. I said spiritual not religious, I avoided the use of the word religious because the US colloquial use has corrupted it's true meaning so that it is now useless anywhere else. The US is actually highly 'religious' but very low on the spiritual scale, if you watch a lot of US preachers they almost carry all their body weight on their right side.

      As for US bashing, it's just simply the truth that the US views the world through it's culture centric googles and constantly makes the error of generalizing to all humans from it's own population and trying to impose it's culture on others. Why do you think a lot of mature people in other countries dislike the US?

      Now, as far as these spiritual cultures go, they're spiritual cultures, not scientific, they don't do science, in fact they don't do much of any sort of competitive controlling expansionistic activities (of which both science and religion are a part), they just live simple happy lives where they aren't constantly trying to change everything around them. You have to visit them to actually see the truth of it.

      If you knew anything about how the hemispheres of the brain work (left hemi/right body all about control, organization, and understanding, right/left body all about the present, acceptance, and being) and how the human body works (use it or lose it) you would also easily see the truth of it.

      Isn't it funny how your culture centric goggles made you do a cosmic joke in front of everybody? US'ians are very 'you're either with us or against us', I've never seen a more BPD culture that has little room for truth and fact and turns everything into a divisive political position.

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    63. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we are already establishing communications can't we just send an image?

      How will you read the pixels? From left to right, or right to left?

    64. Re:So why the right hand? by afeeney · · Score: 1

      You pee with your left hand?

      Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "golden touch."

    65. Re:So why the right hand? by morgauxo · · Score: 1

      Probably because if they were then somebody would be asking why everyone isn't right-handed. It had to be one or the other!

    66. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firearms are a biggie. Some are designed for both now a days. Take a look at saving private ryan, the american sniper was left handed, notice how he has to hold the rifle and reach over it to operate the bolt with his left hand on the right side of the rifle. Safety's, bolt (manual or just for loading the first round), sometimes the ejection path of empty casings.

      The m4/16 has a bolt pull that works from the back, but the magazine release is on the right (in front of the trigger which makes changing mags really fast). The ak has the release in front so its the same left or right (but slower in use than right handed on m4/16), but bolt bolt handle is on the right.

      (Somewhat rare) A level action rifle with a scope (one I saw was a 30-30). The empty casings eject top-right. A scope must be mounted top left to clear the ejection area. Making it impossible to use left handed. A M1 garand with a scope (very rare thing from WW2) had the same problem (also it was top loaded), and is probably the reason why it wasn't fielded much (the sniper above would not have been able to use a scoped M1 garand at all) (google scoped garand)

    67. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the left side of the brain (responsible for the motion of the right hand) is also detail oriented and more logical, it tends to be our right hands that are naturally better at fine-motor skills. Machines and tool use tends to be encoded in the left brain.

    68. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For further self-education on right brain vs. left brain, I'd probably watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI

      If you're not familiar with RSA animated, somebody basically cartoon-sketches Royal Society talks. It's pretty sweet.

    69. Re:So why the right hand? by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

      Why isn't everyone left-handed? That too would be beneficial in a cooperative society (shared tools).

      Tools are usually made for right handed people. You know, like scissors, gaming mice, spears, stone axes, etc. The evolutionary advantage was to be right handed.

    70. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds remarkably like arbitrary US-bashing and religious pride.

      [snip reply]

      Nope, you were wrong. It was arbitrary douchebaggery and spiritual hypocrisy.

    71. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spontaneous symmetry breakdown.

    72. Re:So why the right hand? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I'm right-handed, but ambimousetrous. Some computer mice are asymmetrical, but the symmetrical ones can easily be used left-handed, even without reprogramming.

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    73. Re:So why the right hand? by prionic6 · · Score: 1

      In particular, writing: It's designed that right-handers are dragging the writing implement behind their hand in a smooth gliding motion. For left-handers we're smashing the point into the page in front of our hand, making it highly variable and irregular (a non-equilibrium), and then also smearing the hand over what we just wrote. Truly a pain. That's specifically the reason why my uncle (for example) was forced to switch by my grandparents tying his left hand behind his back.

      I have proposed that lefties learn to write upside-down, so you would be starting in the lower right corner and go left from there, then move up a line. For people that can't read upside-down, they just need to rotate the paper by 180 degrees.

      Unfortunatly, none of the left-handed people I know have reacted positively to my suggestion. Don't know why.

    74. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How then do you explain that continental europe, with a similar roman legacy, but without the US revolution bias you mention,
      also drives on the right?

    75. Re:So why the right hand? by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      I actually spent a few seconds trying to rework the punchline to get around that little inconvenience, but no dice. I'm sure Feynman thought the same thing and I'm pretty sure he was smarter than I am (certainly he was quicker), but he apparently wasn't able to get around it either.

    76. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The oldest writing are the Semitic languages (Hebrew, Arabic etc) which are written from right to left so historically your case would have led to more left handed people.

      This raises an interesting question - do Israel and Arabic countries have more left handed people?

    77. Re:So why the right hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    78. Re:So why the right hand? by elsurexiste · · Score: 1

      That's specifically the reason why my uncle (for example) was forced to switch by my grandparents tying his left hand behind his back.

      OMG. My grandma, a leftie, told me the same anecdote. I half-believed her (she had Alzheimer after all), but after reading you I think she told the whole truth. I guess it's true that we are living in the most peaceful times of humanity, and as little as 50 years ago the world was more of a shithole than today.

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  2. That means we lefties by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    are like the wolves amongst you right-handed sheep, right!!!!???

    I'm not ENTIRELY convinced, what about situations where it is advantageous for people to have opposite handedness for optimal cooperation? There seems to be a built-in assumption here that different-handed assortments of people will always have more problems working together. I'm not sure there's a practical way to test this as a general thing though.

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    1. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you RTFA'd, then you'd see this was taken into account for.

    2. Re:That means we lefties by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      Where would opposite hands lead to greater cooperation among primitive man?

      I think the point is that left-handed people would need special left-handed spears, knives, et cetera. If they lost their special tool they couldn't just grab a friend's right-handed version, so they'd be left weapnless and get eaten/killed by the lion before they had a chance to procreate. Thus leftie genes would become rare in homo sapiens.

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    3. Re:That means we lefties by icebike · · Score: 5, Interesting

      are like the wolves amongst you right-handed sheep, right!!!!???

      I'm not ENTIRELY convinced, what about situations where it is advantageous for people to have opposite handedness for optimal cooperation? There seems to be a built-in assumption here that different-handed assortments of people will always have more problems working together. I'm not sure there's a practical way to test this as a general thing though.

      I agree, the theory is weak.

      Using sports as a model for why handed-ness exists is putting the cart before the horse. That Baseball was able to capitalize on left handed pitchers throwing to much more common right handed hitters is a rather late innovation in the annals of human endeavor.

      Further, very few tools existed in historical times where handedness mattered at all. A wrench or a hammer or a spear have no handedness. Only much later were tools invented to meet the needs of the majority or users, which is why there was a tendency to put controls on power tools on the right.

      The whole thesis mistakes cause for effect, suggesting tools and games we invented had something to do with what made us what we are. Whether our ancestors threw the spear, or picked the berry right or left handed couldn't have mattered at all.

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    4. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That means we lefties are like the wolves amongst you right-handed sheep, right!!!!???

      Then we almost-ambies are almost like huntsmen among wolves and sheep? To clarify: I am as good with my left hand as I am with my right, except for writing. Writing with the left hand feels "unnatural". In addition, I tend to slightly favor right hand over left hand when doing random simple stuff like picking up things, but not by a very large margin. Quite convenient for hand-tiring activities like bowling or clicking with a computer mouse all day or ... uh ... performing some other highly repetitive one-handed job.

      I guess it is convenient to have a default choice for occasions when either one would be good if everyone did it. For example, when two cars approach each other on a road from opposite directions, always stopping for negotiating passingeach other would be cumbersome. That is why most countries have right-sided traffic.

    5. Re:That means we lefties by Muros · · Score: 1

      I'm having a little difficulty with the idea that cooperation required same-handedness to the degree that it largely influenced evolution in pre-literate societies. Tool use is cited; I have never seen an axe, hammer, knife or shovel that was not largely symetric in design.

      The sports bit is interesting, but probably a red herring. Cooperative sports like football etc. were not played by professionals hundreds of years ago, and they didn't have every detail of the game worked out and practised beforehand. They just kicked the ball about. On the flip side, sports like boxing are cited as examples where being left-handed provides an advantage. I am going to assume the same would be true for a real blood and gore, swinging swords and spilling guts fight a thousand years ago. We know warfare has shaped genetic makeup; it is estimated that about 0.5% of all men in the world are direct patrilineal descendents of Genghis Khan. If left-handedness provides obvious advantages in something that has been an important evolutionary pressure for at least the past 100 generations, why then is it not more widespread?
      I think we could be back to correlation vs causation here. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've read in the past that the left and right hemispheres of the brain are slightly different, and that whichever of them is dominant decides the handedness of the person (left hemisphere for right handed & vice versa). I would guess then, from my position of having no education whatsoever in psychology or biology, that the primary evolutionary pressures deciding for or against lefthandedness are mental in nature, and that things like possibly being better at boxing are merely a side effect.

    6. Re:That means we lefties by gadget+junkie · · Score: 1

      spears, knives and early swords had no handedness, which in the case of swords is limited to the form of the hilt, which in the case of a modern basket hilt is handed. and remember that in practically all the history of fighting, the relative size of the population gave an advantage to lefthanders, since the simple probability of meeting a left hander was too low for every right handed fighter to be adequately prepared, while the opposite is false, since left handers had plenty of practise working against right handers.
      The modern rifle is an interesting case of standardization going against best results: many designs, especially Bullpup, cannot be used by left handed personnel out of the box unless a specific version/modification is available. the only military rifle that does not require a specific version/tooling is the Beretta ARX 160, which can be modified on the fly without tools to switch side of the loading lever and/or ejection port.

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    7. Re:That means we lefties by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, it wasn't actually...

      "Cooperation favors same-handedness—for sharing the same tools, for example. Physical competition, on the other hand, favors the unusual. In a fight, a left-hander would have the advantage in a right-handed world."

      This is simply taken axiomatically as a starting point for the study. I see no indication that it was determined by any sort of analysis. I'm not even sure such an analysis is feasible. You'd have to know what activities people carried out in prehistoric times, how, and what the value of cooperation was for each one. There could be various advantages and disadvantages of same or opposite handedness depending on the activity, etc. The entire concept of their study rests ENTIRELY on the validity of this same-handedness is better for cooperation proposition. I'm not saying it is untrue, but without demonstrating it to be true and to what degree I cannot see how any meaningful conclusions can be drawn.

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    8. Re:That means we lefties by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      For example, when two cars approach each other on a road from opposite directions, always stopping for negotiating passingeach other would be cumbersome. That is why most countries have right-sided traffic.

      Bit of a non sequitur. Why does it matter which side it is, as long as it's consistent?

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    9. Re:That means we lefties by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Tool use is cited; I have never seen an axe, hammer, knife or shovel that was not largely symetric in design.

      Some chefs' knives have an asymmetric profile. I have a left handed friend who can't cut straight with mine.

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    10. Re:That means we lefties by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

      Eh, I have yet to meet a firearm that gave me any more than the most trivial problems. Certainly left-handed firearms are nice, but in a practical sense both sorts work fine. Working the safety on a pistol quickly is probably the least convenient feature of wrong-handed hand guns.

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    11. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also heard of a study once which suggested in those who are ambidextrous, neither side of the brain had become dominant (as is apparently the case with left- and right-handers) so they are, on average, not as intelligent.

    12. Re:That means we lefties by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Eh, I have yet to meet a firearm that gave me any more than the most trivial problems. Certainly left-handed firearms are nice, but in a practical sense both sorts work fine. Working the safety on a pistol quickly is probably the least convenient feature of wrong-handed hand guns.

      My father is right-handed, but shoots leftie. And he postively hates bolt-action rifles for that reason - operating a bolt from the wrong side is painful, at best.

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    13. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shell ejection is sometimes an issue for lefthanded shooters. An M16 (and an AK-47) ejects shells (if your the shooter) to the right meaning that a left handed shooter will have hot shells dumping out on to their arm (and possibly down their shirt if circumstances are right). I don't shoot lefthanded but I'm lefthanded for other things so I do feel your slight frustrations with things.

    14. Re:That means we lefties by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      Finally someone who can think!

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    15. Re:That means we lefties by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      I'm neither left-handed nor right-handed (but I don't consider myself purely ambidextrous, either). I tend to favor my left hand for non-handed implements and tend to favor my right hand for handed implements. And I can tell you that the items you listed are not handed unless constructed to be so (curve of the handle).

      However, I think the study failed to take into account that certain sports (such as golf and bowling) don't involve cooperation but should have a decided advantage for lefties. In golf, the course is usually set up to challenge a right-handed golfer based on the typical ball path which is the opposite path for a leftie. Same for bowling, oil patterns break down for righties more because more carry-down happens when more righties bowl on the lanes. If you are the only leftie on the lanes, your line holds a lot longer.

    16. Re:That means we lefties by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      That Baseball was able to capitalize on left handed pitchers throwing to much more common right handed hitters is a rather late innovation in the annals of human endeavor.

      Your point still stands, but you have the baseball backwards. Opposite handedness favors the batter.

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    17. Re:That means we lefties by icebike · · Score: 1

      You're right of course, bad proof reading on my part.
      The simplistic explanation for non baseball fans is here.

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    18. Re:That means we lefties by readin · · Score: 1

      Where would opposite hands lead to greater cooperation among primitive man?

      Think of a group of people rowing a large canoe with some rowing on the left and some on the right. Think of a group of people carrying the canoe. Think of sneaking up and surrounding an animal with some going to the left and others to the right. Think of cooperating in a fight against the neighboring tribe where it helps that your opponent doesn't have a pretty good idea which is your stronger arm. Think of buiding something where it helps to be able to swing the hammer from a different angle to hit certain spots.

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    19. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of cooperating in a fight against the neighboring tribe where it helps that your opponent doesn't have a pretty good idea which is your stronger arm.

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    20. Re:That means we lefties by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      None of these things is specific to handedness.

      There is no reason a left-handed person and a right-handed person would have better luck flanking/attacking an enemy or prey than a pair of same-handed people.

      If you have ever actually propelled a canoe, you would know that which side you paddle on does not matter. All steering and control should be done from the same side of the canoe(C-stroke and J-stroke) - you shouldn't be switching the side you paddle on to steer, or using an oar like a rudder.

      If you are cooperating with your tribespeople in a fight against a neighboring tribe, why would it be advantageous to have some of your people off-handed? It just breeds specialized tool needs, confusion, and non-conformity. If anything, it makes synchronization of tribe members harder.

      Swinging a hammer from a different angle does not rely on the chirality of the person swinging it, nor does it involve 'opposite hands leading to greater cooperation'.

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    21. Re:That means we lefties by FrootLoops · · Score: 2

      but without demonstrating it to be true and to what degree I cannot see how any meaningful conclusions can be drawn.

      Well, if the model predicts reality accurately, one concludes the premises are plausible or likely. It's not the greatest form of evidence, but it's enough for many purposes. I've seen physicists ignore the lack of mathematical rigor in their arguments, and as far as I can tell the justification is the same: the results are pretty good, so the steps taken must have been correct.

    22. Re:That means we lefties by matunos · · Score: 1

      Good points. But, the ultimate competition, personal combat, also shows that lefties have an advantage (enough to maintain equilibrium, that is) in a population dominated by righties. While both lefties and righties will be used to fighting righties, righties will be less accustomed to fighting lefties. This is true in hand-to-hand combat as well as armed conflict, including the modern sports of boxing and fencing.

      After all, modern sports doesn't exactly explain how we evolved. I would guess they're using sports as the closest analogy to prehistoric tribal/personal conflict.

      Unfortunately, when it comes to modern combat, most rifles are handed- for example a right-handed rifle will eject shells across te line of sight of someone holding it left-handed. I believe there are ambidextrous designs and various attachments that avoid some of these issues while not requiring a left-handed model. Then again, modern war is not necessarily the same as natural selection.

    23. Re:That means we lefties by findoutmoretoday · · Score: 1

      FN seems to have no problemen to create ambidextruous bullpups F2000 and P90. With a military gun good cover is sometimes more important than handedness.

    24. Re:That means we lefties by Lupu · · Score: 1

      Further, very few tools existed in historical times where handedness mattered at all. A wrench or a hammer or a spear have no handedness. Only much later were tools invented to meet the needs of the majority or users, which is why there was a tendency to put controls on power tools on the right.

      The whole thesis mistakes cause for effect, suggesting tools and games we invented had something to do with what made us what we are. Whether our ancestors threw the spear, or picked the berry right or left handed couldn't have mattered at all.

      The mention of a wrench here is a perfect example of how to overlook favorable tendencies for left/right handedness. Yes, the tool itself can be used in either hand, but the direction in which nuts and screws are wound in typically favors right handed people. Similarly, scissors with no ergonomic shape to favor one hand over the other typically have the top blade on the right, which leaves the cut much easier to see if the scissors are held in the right hand.

      I'm not intimately familiar with tools mankind has used throughout history, but I'd be cautious to make statements like "very few tools existed in historical times where handedness mattered at all".

    25. Re:That means we lefties by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      A wrench or a hammer or a spear have no handedness

      No, but when fighting against someone with hand weapons (eg: a club or spear), your opponent's handedness makes a huge difference. Go rewatch Princess Bride, or give up your 5-digit UID to some true geek who can make better use of it.

    26. Re:That means we lefties by readin · · Score: 1

      None of these things is specific to handedness.

      There is no reason a left-handed person and a right-handed person would have better luck flanking/attacking an enemy or prey than a pair of same-handed people.

      When you're flanking something then your target is moving laterally to you (that is, when it senses your presence and tries to run). If you need to stike, stab, grab or throw something at your target then the strength and accuracy of your throw will depend heavily on whether your good hand is on the side it is moving toward.

      If you have ever actually propelled a canoe, you would know that which side you paddle on does not matter. All steering and control should be done from the same side of the canoe(C-stroke and J-stroke) - you shouldn't be switching the side you paddle on to steer, or using an oar like a rudder.

      I have propelled a canoe and though I never mastered the one-sided stearing I know of it. However we're not necessarily talking about two-seaters. Look at pictures of polynesians rowing their canoes that cary 6 or more people. Look at pictures of dragon boats. Not all canoes are tiny.

      If you are cooperating with your tribespeople in a fight against a neighboring tribe, why would it be advantageous to have some of your people off-handed? It just breeds specialized tool needs, confusion, and non-conformity. If anything, it makes synchronization of tribe members harder.

      I have to admit I'm speculating quite a bit on this one since I'm not much of a fighter. But if you were a good fighter then I would assume that knowing which side is their strong side would help you make your defence and attack. In inter-tribal battle you're unlikely to know the handedness of each of your opponents so it would be helpful to assume they're all right handed. In intra-tribal fights you are likely to encounter the same opponent multiple times (since you won't be killing your fellow tribesman) and you'll learn which of his hands is stronger thus reducing that advantage.

      Swinging a hammer from a different angle does not rely on the chirality of the person swinging it, nor does it involve 'opposite hands leading to greater cooperation'

      I have found from building and repairing things that sometimes the nail or screw you need to work on is in a hard-to-reach location so that you have to use your weaker hand or hit at an awkward angle. At times it helps to have an opposite handed person around to work those screws or nails.

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    27. Re:That means we lefties by sackbut · · Score: 1

      That Baseball was able to capitalize on left handed pitchers throwing to much more common right handed hitters is a rather late innovation in the annals of human endeavor.

      Your point still stands, but you have the baseball backwards. Opposite handedness favors the batter.

      In batting in baseball, left side batting is favoured because the batter is one or two steps closer to first base, as well as their momentum from the swing going that direction. We often coach/teach people to bat from the left because of this.

    28. Re:That means we lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Left-handed people also had little practice against left-handed people. Does that matter?

    29. Re:That means we lefties by icebike · · Score: 1

      But again, you have the cart before the horse.

      Mankind shaped tools, not the other way around. When scissors were invented they were probably not handed, this only came later when the product was tailored for the majority of users.

      And screw threads were never universally lefty-loosie-righty-tighty. The british were notorious for using a mixture of threading direction until the age of mass production dictated standardization.

      We designed our tools for our bodies, not the other way around. Prior to the industrial age and mass produced goods, there was no natural selection pressure towards left or right handednes. And post industrial age, there still isn't.

      I could make the equally valid speculation that Handedness was probably learned by children watching their elders. The more abusive and controlling elders insisted children learn to wipe their butts with a specific hand and keep the smelly hand away from the communal meal as is common in some middle east regions today.

      I wouldn't have to resort to baseball statistics to do so.

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    30. Re:That means we lefties by icebike · · Score: 1

      So, once again, an appeal to movies? Seriously?

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    31. Re:That means we lefties by benthurston27 · · Score: 1

      I think he was talking about the fact that left handed hitters find right handed pitchers easier to hit off of and most of the pitchers are right handed. One thing I was thinking a while back is I wonder if there has ever been a switch pitcher? It would be valuable for a pitcher to be able to pitch with either hand as different handed batters came up.

    32. Re:That means we lefties by sackbut · · Score: 1
      " switch-pitchers must choose which way they will begin pitching before they start. Then, batters will select with which hand they will bat. The batter and the pitcher are each allowed one switch during the plate appearance, after the first pitch is thrown." From MLB rules.

      The only modern pitcher to pitch in the major league is Greg Harris with the Montreal Expos.

  3. What about Golf !!! by SpockLogic · · Score: 2

    If this were true then golf would have a lot more left handers, but it doesn't.

    1. Re:What about Golf !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, because golf is an individual sport played against the course, not directly against an opponent, even in match play.

      Also, high handicap golfers tend to slice (curve towards right for right-handers) while better golfers usually fight a tendency to hook (curve towards left for right-handers). Of course, left handers err in the opposite direction. I suspect that golf course architects would make an effort to even out the hazards as far as right side and left side are concerned.

      Phil Michelson is an interesting case - he was born right-handed, but became a left handed golfer because he took lessons from his dad throughout his childhood and learned by mirroring his right-handed dad's swing on the left-handed side.

    2. Re:What about Golf !!! by bdabautcb · · Score: 1

      I was going to make the same comment as the P.P. The article said that areas with individual competition should represent a higher number of lefties. Their analysis makes sense with baseball being higher than football, but the way their model is explained the most individual sports (golf, ping pong) should be the highest. Also, once at the professional level, course design is not much of a factor for left vs. right handed golfers.

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    3. Re:What about Golf !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Match play is 100% against an opponent -- claiming otherwise is like saying tennis is played against the court.

    4. Re:What about Golf !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the cost of green fees and, especially, the cost of left-handed clubs are a factors. Golf, despite being fairly mainstream, still has significant barriers that prevent a young child from participating unless the parents are pushing the child into the sport. A left-handed child might not have access to left-handed clubs whereas a righted-handed child can always find used clubs. Other sports are fairly inexpensive to introduce to a young child. Baseball only requires a glove. Tennis racquets done really have handedness to them.

    5. Re:What about Golf !!! by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      That's how I learned pool. I play leftie, as I was taught mirror of my grandfather. But as an adult, I've gotten more practice righty, so that I can switch for the shots that would be easy as a righty and very hard leftie.

      Golf is slice-prone because instructors don't know how to teach it. A tiny amount of physics makes it simple. The shaft isn't centered. So the club face will always "open up" when the ball is struck. This directs the ball a little to the right and puts a spin on it that will have it curve further right. This is *easily* corrected by rotating the club head during impact. Over-rotation (speed) is hard for a beginner (though incorrect club facing is common). If the contact point was in-line with the shaft, there would be no tendency for slice/hook.

      I followed Phil around Colonial when he won there a while back.

    6. Re:What about Golf !!! by Smekarn · · Score: 1

      Golf is turn based, your point is moot.

      The advantages of a lefty in individual competion comes from the righty's inability to quickly and properly react to the lefty's moves, having mostly had experience with competing against other righties. The lefty however, has also had most experience competing with righties, and will therefore not have the same drawback. Saying handedness would affect the outcome in golf is like saying it would affect the outcome of chess, or any other non-reactive type of competition.

    7. Re:What about Golf !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Left-handed batters have an advantage in baseball because the majority of pitchers are right-handed, and it's just easier to see the pitcher's release standing on the opposite side of the plate. That's why so many big league hitters are switch-hitters. But switch-pitching at the major league level just isn't practical, except as a stunt. A pitcher is either a righty or a lefty and that's that.

      There is no comparable advantage for lefties (or righties) in golf. A designer for a championship course (one that will sponsor PGA tour play, for example) doesn't want Phil to skip it because he thinks he has a four-stroke disadvantage going in, or for Tiger to skip it because he thinks Phil has a four-stroke advantage. OTOH being a lefty in golf is a bit of disadvantage for many youngsters because there is a shortage of equipment and they might have to settle for clubs that don't ideally suit their game. Of course PGA Tour pros can get whatever equipment they want, but it's a long road to get there.

      And unlike baseball, tennis, or table tennis, golf doesn't require split-second reaction time.

  4. the eyes have it by ozduo · · Score: 1

    Rt handed people who are Left eye dominant are usually more clumsy and less adept at sport than Left eyed Left handed people.

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    1. Re:the eyes have it by icebike · · Score: 1

      And the reverse is also true, so If you had a point, I totally missed it.

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    2. Re:the eyes have it by cffrost · · Score: 1

      And the reverse is also true, so If you had a point, I totally missed it.

      Other than neither of you citing sources, there's no reason to believe that the reverse isn't true; I think it's safe to assume that that was implied. I think ozduo's point was to suggest that correlated eye/hand-dominance may have had substantial evolutionary influence on handedness itself.

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    3. Re:the eyes have it by icebike · · Score: 1

      And the reverse is also true, so If you had a point, I totally missed it.

      Other than neither of you citing sources, there's no reason to believe that the reverse isn't true; I think it's safe to assume that that was implied. I think ozduo's point was to suggest that correlated eye/hand-dominance may have had substantial evolutionary influence on handedness itself.

      You've simply shifted the discussion to another part of the body, without even realizing that the origination for eye dominance are is no more understood than hand dominance.

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  5. Dear Hugh Pickens by oldhack · · Score: 2

    Stop posting these psychobabble.

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    1. Re:Dear Hugh Pickens by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Stop posting these psychobabble.

      The next one will explain why there are more innies than outies in capitalist societies.

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    2. Re:Dear Hugh Pickens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear oldhack,

      (+5 Nail on the head)

      Psychobabble... what a nice polite word for utter "horse shit".

    3. Re:Dear Hugh Pickens by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      You pickens what? Strawberries? Cotton? Dates?

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    4. Re:Dear Hugh Pickens by owlnation · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's pure psychobabble. It's cart-after-the-horse bullshit.

      Handedness has nothing to do with hands. It's whether the right or left brain is dominant. There are right brain dominant people who also happen to use their right hands, even though their left eye, or left foot is dominant.

  6. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lefties are combative assholes

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ironically righties are trolls?

  7. What tools? by vlm · · Score: 1

    cooperation favors same-handedness—for sharing the same tools, for example

    I'm struggling here to think of a primitive tool with handed-ness built into it. Anyone?

    for example while physical competition favors the unusual. In a fight, for example, a left-hander would have the advantage in a right-handed world.

    Doesn't know much about ancient warfare. Good luck running a phalanx or pretty much any massed swords -n- shields combat with some people randomly swapping sword and shield hands. Half your shield protects your buddy to the left, kinda like half of the shield of your buddy to the right partially protects you...

    Of course if you're not one of those religious extremist types, the majority of human evolution happened long before ancient warfare kicked in; however, acting as a filter, most lefties would have died out due to the effects of ancient warfare.

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    1. Re:What tools? by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Single bevel axes are 'handed'.

      I imagine optimizing the grip would also cause some handedness as well.

    2. Re:What tools? by CSMoran · · Score: 1

      I'm struggling here to think of a primitive tool with handed-ness built into it. Anyone?

      Shield.

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    3. Re:What tools? by drkoemans · · Score: 1

      Phalanx = cooperation therefore, same handedness. Of course I didn't RTFA but I believe the author was referring to single combat and having a lefty advantage. Competition, not cooperation.

    4. Re:What tools? by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      >>>>> In a fight, for example, a left-hander would have the advantage in a right-handed world.
      >>
      >>Doesn't know much about ancient warfare. Good luck running a phalanx

      In a competitive species the phalanx wouldn't even exist, because the humans would not cooperate with one another. Thus there'd be no need disadvantage to being either right or left, and the genes would be split evenly 50-50.

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    5. Re:What tools? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      Single bevel axes are 'handed'.

      I imagine optimizing the grip would also cause some handedness as well.

      How long ago did these first appear?

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    6. Re:What tools? by VinylRecords · · Score: 1

      I'm struggling here to think of a primitive tool with handed-ness built into it. Anyone?

      Not exactly primitive but everything in ancient Roman and Greek culture was built around everyone being right handed. Even the language reflected the value of being right handed compared to being left handed. They would slap students' left hands, even the great Caesars, to get them to learn to be right hand dominant.

      The Latin (Roman) word for 'right' was 'dexter'. It's where we get the words dexterity, dextrous, and ambidextrous from. So in English someone being 'ambidextrous' means that they have two right hands. And the Latin word for 'left' was 'sinistra'. Which is where we get the words sinister and ambisinister. So someone who is ambisinistrous is someone with two left hands is considered unskilled manually.

      In primitive cultures you'd see hand dominance as well. It was innate and the culture was designed around right handed dominance. While technically the tools that they used could be done with either hand, the information how to use those tools were passed down by demonstration, and the demonstrations were usually done by a right handed person. So a human from thousands of years ago hunting with spears and rocks would always throw those weapons with his right hand, and show his son to do it with the right hand, and so on. Sure those rocks aren't designed to be thrown with a specific hand but our natural tendency to be right handed influenced our primitive ancestors to continually practice right hand dominance.

    7. Re:What tools? by vlm · · Score: 1

      OK the greek and roman stuff happened well after 99.999% of human evolution had ironed out all that stuff. They're a lot closer to me than my ancestor 200K yrs ago (or whatever) back when we selected for handedness.

      BTW the sinistra business is all about shaking your fren-imes hand with the right hand, holding real tight so he can't get away, then stabbing him in the gut with a dagger held in the left hand.

      The monkey-see monkey-do thing is relevant to the pre-historical era. That is a good argument. That gave me an excellent idea of take dead animal carcass flop it on ground hold skinning knife you must point the head the same direction each time, at least that's my experience with cleaning fish. You'd think a CAD kind of guy would be able to gut a fish equally well with its head to the left or right but peculiarly even I always hold with left hand and cut away from my hand which has a certain way of fixing the carcass position. I think the kids could get the general idea of spear chucking in either hand, but animal skinning training is going to have an inherent handed-ness that is going to otherwise confuse the hell out of both kid and adult if you try to flip the mental picture and suddenly the lungs are over here and the guts are over there instead of their "normal" position, or you have to use really weird hand grip positions to properly skin.

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    8. Re:What tools? by starfishsystems · · Score: 1

      I'm struggling here to think of a primitive tool with handed-ness built into it. Anyone?

      Any kind of axe or hammer or adze whose haft is made from a found object such as tree branch would qualify.

      Such hafts are never perfectly symmetrical, and they are held asymmetrically. A good tool will exploit the natural shape of the haft so as to conform to the user's handedness. The center of effort of the tool as well as the attack angle of the blade will be set accordingly. It's usually obvious in the instant that you pick up such a tool whether it's made for left-handed or right-handed use.

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    9. Re:What tools? by Savantissimo · · Score: 1

      All primitive flint tools have somewhat asymmetric faces, many of the oldest are unifacial. So about 2.6 million years ago.

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    10. Re:What tools? by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Organised, disciplined warfare of the type you describe is a fairly late development. In more typical hand to hand scrapping with bronze swords a lefty has an advantage, just as left handed fencers do today.

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  8. Good question! by khasim · · Score: 2

    Can a right-handed male and female produce a left-handed child?

    Can a left-handed male and female produce a right-handed child?

    Is there a percentage?
    Right + right = right 90% of the time?
    Left + left = left 90% of the time?

    Or is it that any combination will result in a right-handed child 90% of the time?

    1. Re:Good question! by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm the child of two right-handed people - and I'm neither, I'm one of the 1% ambidextrous people - but I prefer to write with my left hand.

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    2. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!

    3. Re:Good question! by Pandur77 · · Score: 4, Informative

      All I can say is that I'm left-handed. Both my parents are right-handed and so are both my brothers.

    4. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wife is lefty. I'm a righty. Both kids are lefties (well, the youngest hasn't chosen yet, but favors left).

    5. Re:Good question! by AJWM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have (fraternal) twin sons. One is right handed, one left handed.

       

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    6. Re:Good question! by __aasdno7518 · · Score: 1

      Can a right-handed male and female produce a left-handed child?

      Yes,my sib and I both had right handed parents and both are lefties.

    7. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also the child (one of four) of two Righties and I'm a Leftie. All of my siblings are Righties; all of my immediate circle of aunts, uncles and grandparents are/were Righties. You have to go back four generations to find a Leftie in our family and that's only through dim recollection of my grandmother. So I don't think it's like eye color where you have dominant and sub variations.

    8. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep both my parents are right handed and I'm not. (the postman was left handed though).

      Left handed-news, like blue eyes is a recessive gene, so there is some maths that can show the probability. The equation is ...... Ummmmm

    9. Re:Good question! by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1

      I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!

      - you're half-way there - just chop off the other one, and you'll be equally proficient with both (for some very low value of "proficient").

      Kind of like the guy who found Bizarro Genie, who grants only one wish, and it never turns out like you expect. He wished for "a schlong so long it would hit the floor" - so the Genie cut off both his legs!

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    10. Re:Good question! by Sussurros · · Score: 1

      As as adult I taught myself to write with my left hand, it takes a few years until you don't notice the difference. Now I write comfortably with either hand and my trade, air mech, meant that I could already use tools with either hand. I still cannot clean my teeth with my left hand, nor beat an egg though.

      The real difference, and one that is almost impossible to override, is that when I design a document or website I draw all headlines and graphics with my left hand and write all body text with my right hand.

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    11. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nearly every parent I have spoke with says that their kid switches handedness several times as they develop and then stop switching around 4yrs of age. Also every kid develops differently. Most develop fater than average in some areas but slower than average in other areas. I bet that the developmnental pattern determines handedness. For example, if they develop faster in areas that use the left brain then they switch their handedness to their right brain (making them left handed) to free up left brain capacity. At some point it may become to difficult to switch and the handedness sticks.

    12. Re:Good question! by ross.w · · Score: 1

      My wife and I are both left handed. Our son is right handed.

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    13. Re:Good question! by funfail · · Score: 1

      I don't think it is a single gene, since both left handed parents can have right handed children. If it was a single recessive gene, the children will most certainly left-handed.

      Again, if it was a single gene, the left handed vs right handed ratio would be closer to 25/75.

    14. Re:Good question! by cffrost · · Score: 1

      I still cannot [...] beat an egg though.

      Try rotating the eggbeater 180 degrees about its vertical axis.

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    15. Re:Good question! by sFurbo · · Score: 1

      Again, if it was a single gene, the left handed vs right handed ratio would be closer to 25/75.

      Only if the two alleles were present in the population in equal numbers. See sickle cell anaemia for an example.

    16. Re:Good question! by qu33ksilver · · Score: 1

      I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!

      You won't be ambidextrous anymore then !

    17. Re:Good question! by BewireNomali · · Score: 2

      yes, that is the joke.

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    18. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, my ambidextrous son calls himself ambisinistrous, meaning that he has no dominant hand, not two. It has always been a significant difficulty for him, partly offset by extra time in exams and permission to record lectures.

    19. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!

      That's the joke.

    20. Re:Good question! by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      Both of my parents are left-handed, but both my sister and I are generally right-handed. There are some things that feel more natural to me left-handed, such as playing hockey or golf.

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    21. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. Wife is lefty (but was forced to write with her right hand in school) and I am a righty. Our two oldest are left handed, while my daughter is right handed. The jury is still out on our ten month old.

    22. Re:Good question! by mhajicek · · Score: 1

      Only one data point, but my wife and I are both right handed. Our son is left handed.

    23. Re:Good question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife and I are both left handed. Our son is right handed.

      what a waste.

    24. Re:Good question! by nblender · · Score: 2

      My wife and I are both left handed but our son is right handed.

      We had such high hopes too.

    25. Re:Good question! by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      As as adult I taught myself to write with my left hand,

      In my second or third year at Uni, I taught myself to write in all orientations : left or right hand ; right to left or left to right ; upside up or upside down. I made attempts at doing a Houdini - writing with my feet - but that never really approached legibility. It wasn't too difficult . . .

      I still cannot clean my teeth with my left hand, nor beat an egg though

      . . . but learning to eat with knife in left hand and fork in right ... I never got comfortable with that. A spork in either hand, that was no problem, but knife-left-fork-right just never worked. I'm sure that I could have broken the habit if I'd cared enough, but it was surprisingly persistent.

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  9. Sorry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just couldn't get past the error on page1, paragraph 4.

  10. Well, no... by joh · · Score: 1

    In a perfect world we would all be ambidextrous -- being able to use BOTH hands would make things much simpler.

    1. Re:Well, no... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a perfect world we would all be ambidextrous -- being able to use BOTH hands would make things much simpler.

      Yeah, one could take over when the other got tired.

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    2. Re:Well, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to use both hands at the same time. One to hold the magazine down, the other to peal the sticky pages apart.

    3. Re:Well, no... by tdarklighter · · Score: 1

      It wasn't difficult to train myself to use my left hand for certain tasks. For example, after half a day I can easily use my left hand for the mouse (buttons flipped or not) and use my right hand for a pen. Also, when I first picked up a guitar 20 years ago it seemed like it would have been easier to fret with my right hand but after enough hours I gained dexterity in my left.

    4. Re:Well, no... by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You joke, but that was literally true for me w/ regards to handwriting. Then one day my second grade teacher saw me switching hands and freaked out. She made me sit on my left hand for the rest of the year and had the colossal gall to tell me that someday I'd thank her for it. When my doctor learned about it at my next annual physical, he was pissed off beyond belief. He didn't cuss, but he kept muttering about "superstitious morons" and "subjecting kids to the prejudices of idiots", or words to that effect.

      Fortunately the only thing impacted was my handwriting. Fifty years later my left-handed writing still looks like a first-grader while my right-handed writing got arrested at a second grade level. But I'm one heck of a typist, when I played soccer I did equally well on either left or right wing, I'm popular at dinner parties because I can accommodate whoever I am seated next to without bumping elbows, and my wife thinks I'm a very versatile fellow.

    5. Re:Well, no... by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      According to this study,

      Homosexual men had 82% greater odds of being non–right-handed than heterosexual men

      I guess we learn to use both at once ;)

    6. Re:Well, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do this with my ambidextrous mouse. The only thing that is really difficult is playing an very fast FPS game with changing hands. Too bad changing hands is not reflected in a game so that one could utilize the tactics learned in the army.

    7. Re:Well, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're really saying is: you're kind of a big deal.

    8. Re:Well, no... by TrekkieGod · · Score: 1

      Fifty years later my left-handed writing still looks like a first-grader

      I didn't have a teacher or anyone else force me to stop writing with my left hand, but I've arrived at similar results through a different path. In Brazilian schools they drilled cursive handwriting on you right up until 4th grade or so. I would typically choose my right hand because when writing left-to-right, it's easier to see what you're doing. However, when my wrist got tired, I'd switch. Eventually they stopped giving us so many handwriting practice assignments, and as a result, I stopped getting tired, and stopped switching the hand I write with, and just used my right hand all the time. I can still write with my left hand now, but my handwriting looks exactly the same as the handwriting in my 4th grade notebooks that my parents kept around.

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    9. Re:Well, no... by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 1

      So what you're really saying is: you're kind of a big deal.

      Not even close.

      What I'm saying is that being ambidextrous in a one-side dominant population provides some quality-of-life benefits. I thought that viewpoint was relevant to the topic and I shared a few examples to illustrate the point. Nothing in that list is a big deal to anyone but my wife. It's the luck of the draw that I happened to be born ambidextrous, and to the extent that I think about it I consider it one of several ways in which I am fortunate.

  11. I've followed these studies forever... by smoothnorman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just a few years ago, a Canadian study using baseball stats (because they tracked handiness closely) concluded that lefties were far more likely to die, ( http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199110033251412) this was later shown to have suffered a seemingly paradoxical sampling error (not controlling adequately for those that didn't die). Then there was another study that concluded that left-handedness was likely the result of anoxia in the womb ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002839327390050X). It was discounted for similar sampling error problems. Neurological "wiring error"; perhaps a mutation with few consequences; advantages in the mathematical world (presumably via having a screwy mindset); Language disadvantages; Language *advantages*; high proportion of left-handed (possibly suppressed) American presidents http://www.anythingleft-handed.co.uk/presidents.html (Clinton, Bush, Obama ... ). So... run a elaborate predator/prey model applied to sports and see an advantage for the 10% that are different; sounds like rediscovery of Perato distribution to me, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution I'm just not convinced that there's been a proper scientific approach to this issue to date, and until then i'm still stuck with a twisted spine in most college classrooms.

    1. Re:I've followed these studies forever... by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      >>>high proportion of left-handed American presidents

      Politicians are pretty competitive. They don't like to cooperate with others, which may be why they joined that career (a desire to control other humans' stupid decisions).

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    2. Re:I've followed these studies forever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that is probably my bad, I never realized the left-handed desks were for left handed people. I always used them, despite my righty-ness, because I found them more comfortable as I could swing my arm around in the free air all I wanted.

    3. Re:I've followed these studies forever... by Elky+Elk · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the probability of dying is the same for righthanded and lefthanded (1 in 1).

    4. Re:I've followed these studies forever... by benthurston27 · · Score: 1

      I'm left handed and legally blind so I really have to contort myself to get close enough to see what I'm writing and write with my left hand in those right handed desks.

  12. Mov't and Left/Right Hemispheres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read Robert Ornstein - The Right Mind.
    Also, they need to realize that sports are spacial, and hemispheres tend to have distinct roles in visual and spatial capacities. Pattern recognition plays a role as well.

  13. Golfers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From TFA: "On the other hand, the number of successful left-handed PGA golfers is very low, only 4 percent. The model also accurately predicted this."

    Eh? Golf is a sport where there is no cooperation and where being differently handed should have no benefit in competition with others. One would think that golfers would have the same number of lefties as the general population.

    Methinks that cooperation/competition explains part of the situation, it doesn't explain everything.

    1. Re:Golfers? by Anyd · · Score: 1

      Course design does play a part in how successful a golfer of a certain handedness can be, albeit more in amateur or developing golfers. Most amateur right-handers tend to slice a ball (curve to the right,) while left-handers hook the ball (curve to the left.) I'd be willing to bet there are more dog-leg-right holes than there are dog-leg-left holes.

      I stopped playing golf a while back in favor of disc golf (it's free,) and the hole selection is even more biased. It's difficult for me (a left hander) to get a frisbee to dive left at the end of a shot, where it's natural for a right-hander. At the disc golf courses around me, I'd estimate that there are about 3x more dog-lef-left holes than there are dog-leg-right.

  14. Utter nonsense by BonzaiThePenguin · · Score: 1

    You can pick who is on your football team, but you can't pick who is in your society. And cooperation stems from empathy, not handedness.

    1. Re:Utter nonsense by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      You can pick who is on your football team, but you can't pick who is in your society.

      Nice soundbite, but what does it have to do with anything? Society has evolved to have this proportion of lefties and righties because it strikes a successful balance. So no, you can't pick who's in your society, but you don't have to because evolution has already selected for a 90/10 balance. Survival of the fittest football team in one case, survival of the fittest tribe in the other.

      And cooperation stems from empathy, not handedness.

      Is anyone suggesting cooperation stems from handedness? If anything, the summary suggests the opposite.

      Still, kudos for summarising your post in its title.

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  15. No, hockey teams can't be same-handed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A hockey team needs a good mix of left- and right-handed players. Summary is complete horse-hockey.

    TFA even pretty much clearly spells it out in table S1.

  16. Probably a simpler answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Handedness is most likely related to which neural network gain fine grained control solutions first. The "preference" we experience may just be the recognition of this better control.

  17. Rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is so much crap on so many levels, I can't even begin to enumerate. Half of these blogs shouldn't even be allowed to exist.

  18. So tell me ... by khasim · · Score: 1

    All I can say is that I'm left-handed. Both my parents are right-handed and so are both my brothers.

    So tell me, when you were "in utero" which sports were you most interested in?

    1. Re:So tell me ... by wmbetts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dodge the worm.

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    2. Re:So tell me ... by Pandur77 · · Score: 1

      I spent my youth playing football (or I guess I should say soccer here at /.). And being a lefty on a soccerfield has it's benefits. Most players would try to pass their opponent on their strong side, which vs a samehanded opponent equals their weak side. Since most players are righthanded they fell into my "trap" over and over.

  19. left-handedness is a choice by j0rbshua · · Score: 1

    and how does this explain the fact that the only thing I do left handed is write with pen/pencil. i'm fairly ambidextrous in a variety of sports but i'm right hand dominant, except for handwriting.

  20. That's a lot by nervouk · · Score: 1

    "Representing only 10 percent of the general human population, scientists have long wondered why left-handed people are a rarity." 10% of the population are scientists?

  21. Only 10 percent by starfishsystems · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA:
    Representing only 10 percent of the general human population, scientists have long wondered why left-handed people are a rarity.

    Wow, I never knew that scientists made up ten percent of the population. Yay us.

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  22. As a lefty, just let me say by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    It isn't a big deal. Most everyday items don't favor one hand or the other. Spears, knives, and even swords pretty much fall into this category, as do quite a lot of other tools. Scissors and similar cutters are sort of an exception. So chances are this wasn't a really large problem. In a pinch you can just use things right-handed (and most lefties are less hand-polarized than righties, maybe do to the convenience of being able to use either hand, for instance I'm perfectly happy doing many tasks with either hand like cutting with scissors).

    As for greater cooperation if you have two warriors and one is left handed he can guard the more exposed right flank of his partner and vice-versa. Alexander the Great had a whole cadre of left handed warriors who would take up the far right hand flank of his army (and I'd suspect this was probably fairly standard for ancient armies). The question then is really is there a strong enough difference in cooperation vs competition advantage from different-handedness for it to matter. This study doesn't seem to have addressed that question. At best it can be used like a prior to say "well, maybe it is that way since we DO have 10% lefties." I'm always a little suspicious of that sort of "Bayesian" kind of interpretation since it also leads to such absurdities as the notion that this generation will be the last one in history (do some reading on Bayesian Analysis, lol).

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    1. Re:As a lefty, just let me say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a rank of men holding spears and shields, you absolutely want every one of them to be holding the spear in the same hand and the shield in the other. Spears all in right hands is fine. Spears all in left hands is equally good. One dude in the middle holding the spear the opposite way to everyone else is a huge weak point and fucks up the entire wall.

      So there's that.

    2. Re:As a lefty, just let me say by findoutmoretoday · · Score: 1

      Spear and shield armies move right when under fire as everyone seeks cover behind the neighbours shield. The left flank becomes then the weak spot.

    3. Re:As a lefty, just let me say by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Alexander the Great had a whole cadre of left handed warriors who would take up the far right hand flank of his army (and I'd suspect this was probably fairly standard for ancient armies).

      This idea had occurred to me (I used to play with toy soldiers a lot), but I've never heard of it being put into practice. Do you have a cite?

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  23. Is handedess a real thing? by justin12345 · · Score: 1

    If a child learned to type before they learned to write, would they ever consider which "handed" they are?

    I'm left handed, but aside from handling pens (which these days don't do on a daily basis) I do pretty much everything with both hands equally. When I was a kid alot of todo was made of getting me a left handed baseball glove, left handed scissors, and even a left handed violin. None of those things were very useful. I can catch, cut, play, even shoot with both hands, more or less evenly. (I actually favor my right hand when shooting.)

    Most left handed people I know say the same thing. I'm just guessing, but I'd imagine that a lot of right-handed people are more ambidextrous then they know, but unlike lefties they've never had to think about it.

    With writing, handedness makes a huge difference. It's not a simple matter of inversion, forming a letter left-handed is completely different. There is a great deal of "muscle memory" that comes into play. But imagine a generation that grows up typing instead of writing. Would they ever know which handed they are?

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    1. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by madpansy · · Score: 1

      Playing piano forces you to use both hands simultaneously. As a righty, it is a challenge for me to get the same amount of control from my left that I get from my right. No matter how much I practice with my left hand individually, I still don't feel the same power as I do from my right. This could be because most piano music has the left hand simply keeping rhythm while the right must be more expressive, leading with the melody.

    2. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just used to grabbing things with my right hand because I use it more and have better control over the muscle movements. Because of that, I always use it for whatever takes the most dexterity with my other hand used for power. For things that don't, it really doesn't matter. Some examples from my life: Handguns, right; long guns, left; baseball bat, either; throwing, right; hockey stick, left on slapshots, others are right. Now that I think about it, it is probably more about what I am practiced using or how I picked it up the first time.

    3. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by Smekarn · · Score: 1

      Very good point. My girlfriend is left-handed (as opposed to me) but the only time it EVER comes up is when we are playing thumb wars, buying new scissors/clippers or doing high-fives. Which is never.

    4. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by Savantissimo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've always wanted a left-handed music keyboard. Why isn't there just a software switch on those things? OTOH (ha!) why are guitars all made for lefties? Fretting requires more dexterity than picking.

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    5. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by Rhys · · Score: 1

      If your writing is different, your precision use of scissors is also almost certainly different. Also, if left handed scissors didn't help you, blame your parents for buying crappy left handed scissors, or letting a rightie use them.

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    6. Re:Is handedess a real thing? by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      These days I defintely cut right-handed, it's simply a matter of right-handed scissors being more common. And I'm a pretty precise cutter, these images were created by meticulously cutting apart dozens of 35mm negatives and painstakingly taping or gluing them back together. (The image gallery I liked to is SFW, but other image galleries on that site are NSFW, so careful, anyone that decides to go clicking around.)

      I'm not trying to throw down an argument that hardness isn't a real thing. I know this is slashdot and people here can be quick to jump down your throat demanding double blind controlled studies. I'm only relating that based on my personal experience that only in very complex "muscle-memory" involved tasks like writing does it seem to make any difference to the average lefty I know. Every lefty I know claims to be at least somewhat ambidextrous.

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  24. I don't mean to be crude . . . by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 2

    . . . but before there were organized sports, people had to deal with certain personal matters. They also had to physically interact. As one once said, "I don't eat where I shit." Of course, you might argue that, "One hand washes the other." That is true, but every shithole did not come with Purel, a bidet, or even water. There are other practical reasons for using one hand for one thing and the other for something else.

    Frankly, I doubt if being left-handed or right-handed is genetic. Perhaps it is hereditary in the sense that you learn from birth based on how others use their hands, and it would be easy to use such behavior to perpetuate a trend. For example, everyone born in a Mandarin-speaking village begins to speak Mandarin without any formal training. Or most people use their hands to eat instead of their feet, which anyone born without hands can tell you is quite doable.

    As others have pointed out, society can use commonalities to its advantage, which would re-enforce such trends.

    BTW, I typed this with both hands.

    1. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Ranger · · Score: 1

      Handedness is genetic. There are plenty of stories of people trying to beat their children out of being left-handed.

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    2. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't mean it's genetic. It could have environmental triggers. It could be that some cases are hereditary, and some are societally-influenced.

    3. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      do you know what genetic means? what activates those genes?

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    4. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm virtually the only left-hander in my family. So I highly doubt its a learned behavior.

    5. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by quantaman · · Score: 1

      While there's an environmental component (rates vary by country) if it was purely learned I'd expect that some groups would be predominantly left handed instead of right handed.

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    6. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty fucking sure it's genetic pal. Look a bit more into this topic.

    7. Re:I don't mean to be crude . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a choice, it's just the way god made me!

  25. For hockey... by addie · · Score: 1

    The idea that it's beneficial for every player on a hockey team to be same-handed shows quite an ignorance of the game. There is a left-wing position and a right-wing, and being able to either protect the puck from a defender, and/or have the best possible angle to shoot on net, depends very much on whether the player shoots left or right. This is further complicated by players who choose to shoot left despite being right-handed (see this blog post here, I couldn't find a better source)

    The results of the study are interesting, and make somewhat intuitive sense, but they should be careful not to generalize to too great a degree.

    1. Re:For hockey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      | For other sports like football or hockey where team cooperation is paramount, it is ideal for all individuals to possess the same handedness.

      Author definitely isn't canadian...

      Complicating matters is that many people are right-handed and shoot left like me or vice-sersa. For the record I golf right and also bat right-handed.

      | The idea that it's beneficial for every player on a hockey team to be same-handed shows quite an ignorance of the game.

      It seems left-handed shooting defensemen are more common. Right-handed shooting defensemen are particularily useful in power play schemes. In the NHL the market-value for right-handed shooting defenders is clearly higher than left-shooting ones.

      I'm not as sure about forwards, but it seems right-handed shooters are less common. As to the value I don't think the difference is as much as defenders.

    2. Re:For hockey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sports aren't totally symmetrical either; I can shoot straighter with my left foot than my right, although I'm nominally a right-footer. It's also been suggested that some of the greatest cricketers, who batted left-handed, were actually right-handers at everything else they did; in other words, they batted 'backwards' compared to everyone else. The alledged advantage of this in cricket is that having the stronger hand at the top of the bat leads to skying the ball less, and therefore not being caught out as often.

  26. Meh by slasho81 · · Score: 1

    I haven't RTFA (obviously), but it sounds like those fellas hammered a model onto a data set and attached a nice simplistic explanation on top of it.

    The reason many lefties excel in some sports is due to the element of surprise their left-handedness gives them. Finding a simple formula to determine lefties percentage depending on some arbitrary criteria of cooperation/competition, which is an enormously complex subject in itself, sounds like complete nonsense.

  27. Mod parent up. by khasim · · Score: 2

    For this to have any relevance he'd have to show that handedness was somehow genetic (right-handed parents had right-handed children) or determined soon after birth and influenced by the parents (right-handed parents taught their children to be right-handed unconsciously).

    Then those right-handed parents were more successful in the cooperative culture than the left-handed people.

    Leading to more right-handed children than left-handed children.

    But taking the already existing difference of left / right handedness and then using that to determine their "success" in a synthetic system such as sports ... that's just stupid!

    There are no right-handed footballs. Either US or European.

  28. cooperation definition for different sport (orig) by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    I browsed through the PDF
    {blockquote}
    In Table S1, the predictions for the fraction left-handed were generated using an estimate of the ideal equilibrium l
    for each sport. The appropriate value for l depends primarily on the degree of cooperation c for the sport. This
    parameter is dicult to estimate in sports that possess clear cooperative and competitive elements. However, in order
    to observe xed points other than l = 1/2, c must exceed a threshold that appears to be relatively high for the
    types of transition rates considered in this paper (See gure 1). So, we assumed that l = 1/2 for sports primarily
    involving direct confrontations: baseball (batters vs. pitchers), boxing, fencing, table tennis, hockey (defensemen and
    forwards)

    {blockquote}

    I was skeptical when I read "cooperation", then I saw that they used fairly approximate numbers, and the quality of results was not bad

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  29. Football? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you mean handegg.

  30. no predictions by kwack · · Score: 2

    As someone who knows a little bit of mathematical modeling and statistics, I have to point out that they did not predict the percentages, since they already were known! The correct term would be retrodict.

  31. Lots of left-handed people by machine321 · · Score: 1

    Can this article explain why there are so many left-handed people at my company, especially in IT? I've been in meetings of 8-10 people and noticed that _everyone_ in the room is left-handed (~1000-person company). It seems statistically unlikely.

    1. Re:Lots of left-handed people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is another tidbit of information that may help to explain some of it. Left handed people tend to use different parts of their brain for the same functions versus right handed people, but also these differences are not as set in left handed people as in right. What I mean by that is that the overwhelming majority of right handed people use the same part of their brain for the same functions (e.g. language, reasoning, etc.). However, left handed people use a different part, and even between left handed people the variation on which parts they use for what is far more than it is in right handed people. If you are left handed and suffer a stroke it's much harder for the doctors to predict what deficit you will have as a result, and much harder to predict how well you are likely to respond to therapy because the variation in brain organization among left handed people is much higher than in right handed people.

      Also, a left handed person is far more likely, percentage wise, to be either mentally handicapped or mentally gifted versus a right handed person. The IQ bell curve among left handed people is flatter and spread out more (i.e. higher standard deviation) than among right handed people. This may be a result of the unusual brain organization in that there is a far greater chance of either something very good or very bad happening if the normal genetic wiring diagram isn't followed exactly. This may also explain why the percentage of left handed people is lower because of the greater chance of a brain organizational mistake that would render that person unlikely to grow to an adult and reproduce.

    2. Re:Lots of left-handed people by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      You're looking the mirror. It's just you in the IT department.

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    3. Re:Lots of left-handed people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 people in a lab that I worked in... 4 people (including myself) were left-handed. The righties weren't as impressed with that stat as the lefties were. Really, It still blows my mind.

    4. Re:Lots of left-handed people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can this article explain why there are so many left-handed people at my company, especially in IT?

      Your IT department is sinister. /jk

      No, the article only suggests left-handedness favors competition (or competition favors the unusual).

    5. Re:Lots of left-handed people by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      I read evidence for an argument once that concluded smart people exhibit non-standard behavior of all kinds. Unfortunately I didn't get to read their reasoning, though I do remember two of their examples: night owls and homosexuals. My college dorm had a ridiculously high percentage of both, and everyone there would have been at the uppermost end on general population intelligence tests, so the conclusion is at least consistent with my personal anecdotal evidence. Non-right-handedness among your company's IT workers might be caused by the same underlying mechanism. I'm probably best described as cross-dominant myself: I write with my left hand, use forks alone with my right, use knife+fork with either, use the mouse with either, use right to masterbate, throw right-handed, and have finer motor control over my left.

    6. Re:Lots of left-handed people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lefthandedness and dyslexia are correlated. It might be that other conditions,
      such as aspergers, adhd, etc might be correlated as well, and we've had stories here on /. that
      people with aspergers are overrepresented in IT.

  32. RTFA by karzan · · Score: 1

    The model in the paper specifically allows for two possible equilibria: one in which right-handed people dominate, and one in which left-handed people do. We just happen to be in the right-handed equilibrium (by chance).

  33. Missing the point by karzan · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you are confusing evolutionary modelling (a mathematical technique which describes very general processes of information transfer) with theorising about human origins (an empirical investigation which sometimes uses evolutionary models, along with other sorts of models and lots of physical evidence).

    This paper is an example of the former, not the latter. It argues that, because there is a process of 'selection' involved in athletic try-outs, it may be possible to apply some evolutionary models to explain the outcomes of that process. It then shows that the data are indeed consistent with the predictions of that model.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with cave men, or Neanderthals. Neither does the vast majority of the field of mathematics which we call evolutionary theory.

  34. RTFA by karzan · · Score: 1

    The article specifically cites evidence for an important genetic component of handedness, and the model is constructed around that evidence. The authors didn't have to 'show' this, as it has already been shown.

  35. I didn't really have a choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should have been a lefty, but back in 1st grade, my teacher decided that the entire class would only write with their right hands.

    Seems barbaric now, but at the time I sure didn't know any better. This was back in the late 60's though, in a different time.

    So, I'm a mix-handed person now. Write & throw balls right handed, shoot, frisbee, archery with the left.

    For what it's worth.

  36. Handiness is a preference nothing more. by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
    Anyone can be ambidexterous (minues amputees) the real reason most people are "single" handed is the simple fact that most people don't bother learning to use the other hand once they've mastered most common tasks with either the left or the right hand.

    Don't believe me. Try this.

    First try brushing your teeth every day using your off hand. Do the same with eating and simple things like going to the bathroom or shaving. After a month, practice throwing a ball with your off hand. Start writing after a couple of months start writing with your off hand. After six months you'll be for all practical purposes ambidextrous and able to pick up new tasks very quickly.

    1. Re:Handiness is a preference nothing more. by iamweasel · · Score: 1

      I agree. My experience suggests that handedness is probably in part genetic (how one's brain is wired in the first place), and in part chance during early development when the brain is making the most new connections. The brain is, however, able to adapt quite well, so training yourself to use either hand is quite possible, just as you suggest. It does, however, take considerable effort, so most people won't bother.

      Let me ramble about myself for a while...

      I consider myself left-handed, but right "shouldered", so I write, use a knife (when carving/cutting bread for example), and hold a spoon (when eating soup) with my left hand. Almost everything that requires fine motor control I prefer to do with my left hand. However, I throw with my right hand and prefer to kick with my right foot.

      When younger I purposefully switched and learned to throw with my left hand and play soccer with both feet. I also learned to write and hold a fork/spoon/knife with my right hand and can do so quite well. However I never bothered to learn to hold a hockey stick or a baseball bat the other way, and holding/swinging the other way feels very uncomfortable. Also the preference outlined in the first paragraph holds, so I tend to pick up a pen with my left hand if I don't think about it. Being able to throw with both hands helps with sports such as ultimate or basketball, but when I really want to throw far, for example a javelin, I use my right hand only. (I find that when I have to tension my whole body and do footwork for the throw, using my right hand is more comfortable and effective.)

      I don't think I'm ambidextrous since I had to learn to use both hands consciously. Since most people don't bother learning to use both hands/feet they tend to be somewhat perplexed when I simply switch hands doing something and when asked about it, say "No, I'm not ambidextrous." Even my wife still finds it curious from time to time. "Weren't you just holding the razor with the other hand?"

      All this ambidextrosity stuff probably started this with scissors, since my mom is left-handed and dad is right-handed, so we had scissors ergonomic for either hand at home. As a kid I would pick up the one's that were the closest at hand and just use the hand that they were made for.

    2. Re:Handiness is a preference nothing more. by Seng · · Score: 1

      Shaving left handed... No thanks. I use a straight razor.

  37. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Left handed people were persecuted, and rightly so, since their freakish abnormality is an abomination against nature.

    Tolerance of their kind can only bring misfortune.

  38. Can I shoot left handed? by nicoleb_x · · Score: 1

    During a brief stint in the US Army I decide that it would be "interesting" if I shot left handed. Well, I did and nobody cared.

    1. Re:Can I shoot left handed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eye dominance can also play a role. I am very strongly left-handed so holding a rifle right handed is awkward but my right eye is dominant so it is easier to aim down the sight.

  39. Re:Good question! My parents were right handed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My parents are both right handed, and I am left handed.. I cannot reference anyone else I know that has right handed parents and they turned out left handed..

    When I was a cook, the kitchen managers mother forced her son to do everything left handed, when he was born right handed. He told me his mother wanted a left handed kid for some odd reason. This guy was not right himself, but I always get stoned and then ask him randomly about his childhood just to hear how crazy his mother really was. It always got a good laugh..

    The percentages have to be lower then 10% for right-right to have a left handed child and left-left for a right handed child.

  40. Thare is no quaterback in football by Gunstick · · Score: 1

    where are you living. What's a quaterback?

    oh, american? LOL

    Thanks for marking as troll :-)

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    1. Re:Thare is no quaterback in football by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know, the whole hate america thing is getting old.. the truth is, not too long ago, your country was begging us to put more missiles to shield your sorry asses from the soviet union. now you're all 'socialism' this and 'capitalism sucks' that..maybe we SHOULD withdraw all our bases, missiles and military operations, just to see how long western europe would last with russia and china chomping the bit at expanding their territories again.

    2. Re:Thare is no quaterback in football by stevenfuzz · · Score: 1

      Cute. That's cute. American Football / Soccer jokes! Such a treat and a treasure. Makes me want to scream: Run forest run!

  41. Left-handed more than just "how you learned" by magamiako1 · · Score: 1

    I'm a left-handed person that spent nearly a year in a cast when I was 7 years old with my left arm which forced me to do some things right-handed. I therefore learned a few things right-handed but I generally always go back to doing them left-handed naturally. I *can* do them right-handed, for example, cutting with scissors. However I default to left-handed mode.

    I have a reasonably developed right-hand/arm because of that incident. I can do things with my right arm, I'm very competent with a computer mouse on my right arm, etc. However when it comes to things like typing or writing I'm purely left-handed.

    For a long time I tried to teach myself the DVORAK layout for typing. A friend of mine got into it and he said it was great, and all of the 'studies' showed it was awesome. Unfortunately it also has a SEVERE right-handed bias while qwerty has either a left or mixed bias in general. Which means that most of the typing in dvorak is concentrated to the right-hand. I saw some pictures/images on this a while back that explained everything. The images explained why I had such difficulty getting up to speed on the layout which was directly due to my left-handedness. I can type > 120 wpm in qwerty most of the time, use my right-hand as my mousing arm, yet I still had problems here.

    Some natural things you can't just overcome easily.

  42. Thank You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please mod parent Informative.

  43. I call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I call this BS as my children, all four of them, developed their handedness by age 1 to 1-1/2. This was long before any "cooperation and competition" became significant for them.

  44. question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you define right-handed

  45. handedness in sports by duncfair · · Score: 1

    This is flat out wrong - you only need to watch hockey for a few minutes to realize that at least 4 of the ten skaters on the ice at any time should be lefty.

    While centers and goaltenders can go either way, the left wing and left defense positions are almost always manned by players who are at least left-handed when they are playing that sport.

  46. Baseball by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Left-handed batters have a substantial advantage in baseball: they're two steps closer to first base. This is particularly critical in bunting, where the difference between safe and out is frequently less than half a step.

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  47. Depends on what you call scientist... by alexandre.oberlin · · Score: 1

    If science is what this article is about, I am inclined to evaluate the percentage of scientists in the population to a still much higher value ;-) Same for writers as it seems...

  48. The thing is just to make people talk by alexandre.oberlin · · Score: 1

    Isn't it?

  49. Hockey? Really? by Seng · · Score: 1

    Whoever decided that it would benefit hockey to have everyone the same handedness is a flipping buffoon. There's a huge advantage to having people that shoot left/right on different parts of the ice depending on the play.

    That being said, hockey is one sport where there are tons of people that usually write right-handed, bat right-handed, golf right-handed, but shoot a puck left handed.

  50. Nothing to do with "survival"... by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 1

    I'm sick of reading this sort of thoughtlessness describing evolutionary biases. If you're going to say that an adaptation gives a reproductive or predatory advantage, then fine, you're talking Darwinian evolution -- survival of the fittest. If you're going to say, "Everybody in chummy societies had the same handedness so they could share tools", then please tell me how the heck that weak-sauce tiny (or effectively zero-magnitude) biological fitness bias is supposed to have produced a genotypic change to an entire species within the known anthropological lifetime of the species. Remember that Darwinism requires that for *your* random trait variation to survive and thrive, at a minimum you have to pass your genes on while somebody else does not.