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Aussie Politician Threatens To Contact Employers of Satirical Article "Likers"

Chuq writes "Tasmanian Liberal candidate for Bass, Andrew Nikolic, was the subject of a satirical article by NewExaminer on Facebook. Nikolic didn't like it, which is understandable. However he then went to considerable lengths to identify the people who liked the article, find out their employers (via their Facebook profiles) and 'name and shame' them on a follow-up post on his own page. Andrew Nikolic has a history of poorly handling conflicting views on his Facebook page, resulting in creation of another page, 'Andrew Nikolic blocked me.'"

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  1. Not much of a politician by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't he know that a real politician gets his enemies back in *secret*?

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  2. warning: don't post! by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Funny

    NOTICE TO SLASH DOT USERS

    All posts on this article will be taken to constitute mockery of Tasmanian Liberal candidate for Bass, Andrew Nikolic, and the Slash Dotters in question will be dealt with accordingly.

    1. Re:warning: don't post! by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      FUCK HIM!

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    2. Re:warning: don't post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Be more specific. With a Cucumber? Broom Handle? Butternut Squash? Live Squid? What?

    3. Re:warning: don't post! by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      FUCK HIM!

      Well .. given he's from Tasmania .. that's a job that probably best left to one of his relatives.
       
      (For the US readers of /. Tasmania is the "West Virginia" of Australia. For foreigners of other denominations I'm not sure what the equivalent is. However in the spirit of an open discourse I would love to hear suggestions of similar designations from other countries!)

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    4. Re:warning: don't post! by _8553454222834292266 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chainsaw

    5. Re:warning: don't post! by BluBrick · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps, but gently, m'kay?

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    6. Re:warning: don't post! by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Canada, it'd be Quebec. Literally. There are towns in rural Quebec with one surname. Something like 2/3 of Quebec's population is related as 2nd cousin or closer.

    7. Re:warning: don't post! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      sounds like newfoundland,

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    8. Re:warning: don't post! by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      IIRC the British equivalent is Norfolk.

      Origin of the term "Normal for Norfolk", look it up ;-)

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    9. Re:warning: don't post! by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm, I thought it would've been Buckingham Palace

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    10. Re:warning: don't post! by xaxa · · Score: 2

      IIRC the British equivalent is Norfolk.

      Origin of the term "Normal for Norfolk", look it up ;-)

      I'll come clean and admin I'm ¼ Norfolkish (?). At the last family gathering my great aunt, from Norfolk, said it was unfair how people made fun of Norfolk. Her younger brother, my great uncle, agreed.

      My grandma, the oldest by about 5 years, then listed four couples.
      Grandma: "Don't you remember old Charles the butcher? And Esme."
      G. Aunt: "Oh yes, they were a strange couple. Did they ever get married?"
      Grandma: "No. Esme was Charles' cousin."
      "And Mr Pitchin and Miss Ethlewhite" ... "And Mr. ..."

      I think the great aunt and great uncle had left Norfolk before they were old enough to be aware of such matters.

  3. Not even a politician by dontclapthrowmoney · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's not even a politician - he's preselected to run as a candidate in the as-yet-unscheduled federal election, which isn't likely to occur until 2013.

    1. Re:Not even a politician by mjwalshe · · Score: 2

      Not related to Nadine Dories is he perchance? She is the neighboring MP to me in befordshire and is known for similar things in the Uk

  4. Get this guy out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As far as I'm concerned, any politician who gets in a hissy fit over political satire simply doesn't have the balls to be a politician, regardless of any actual policies. Move over and make way for someone who can take a bit of criticism.

    1. Re:Get this guy out of politics by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In his defense, a childish sense of spite, narcissistic fury in defense of self-image(ideally delusional), and spiteful vindictiveness in the face of criticism are very strong qualifications for most positions of authority...

      Combine that with running on the 'war hero with strong ties to extraction industries' platform and a dose of good, old-fashioned Values, and we could have a real winner!

    2. Re:Get this guy out of politics by nomadic · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I hear ya.....tell that to Obama...I've never seen a guy with such thin skin."

      Actually, a non-biased observer would consider Obama even-tempered in the face of criticism to an unusual degree. Certainly doesn't have the kind of vitriolic defensiveness his predecessor had.

    3. Re:Get this guy out of politics by Phreakiture · · Score: 2

      I agree. I don't think Obama qualifies even remotely as thin-skinned.

      The example that immediately comes to mind would be when, while addressing a joint Congress, Joe Wilson yelled out, "You lie!" The President's response was, without raising his tone, to state simply, "that's not true." That was a truly even-handed response.

      No, I am not a fan of Obama, but his competitors scare the shit out of me.

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    4. Re:Get this guy out of politics by Brandano · · Score: 2

      Man, in his place I'd probably have said "Well, it's my job"... Unfortunately most people can't seem to recognize sarcasm.

    5. Re:Get this guy out of politics by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      In this case it is far more likely a future professional politician in it purely for the kick backs. Once he was in with his chance to get rich quick, he freaked out when he saw threats to his future profit potential.

      This kind of over reaction is mostly driven by greed. As another ex-military officer he has become accustomed to basically be able to destroy people who were insubordinate as a politician clearly he is carrying on like a moron and not woken up to who is for whom.

      In Australian terms he has really badly set himself up as a target for an enormous amount of mocking and public derision, being overly sensitive is something you really do not do, enemies will pounce both from within the party and from without.

      After attempt to get people fired for liking something he disliked and doing so very, very publicly, the chance that he will survive to the next election are pretty much nil.

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  5. Cyberstalking ? by redelm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know what qualifies as cyberstalking under 'stralian law, but this looks like it might qualify. I don't know any law that limits cyberstalking to just one target. Digging out an employer is quite an intrusion, obviously intended to intimidate.

    Of course there will be some Parlimentary Privilige, but I believe that applies only to comment on the floor, not elsewhere.

    1. Re:Cyberstalking ? by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      Seeing as how he hasn't even been elected yet, would any privilege even apply?

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    2. Re:Cyberstalking ? by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Funny

      My best suggestion is to tell him on his Facebook page. He probably doesn't read slashdot!

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    3. Re:Cyberstalking ? by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 2

      I don't know what qualifies as cyberstalking under 'stralian law, but this looks like it might qualify.

      Isn't the whole point of facebook to collect your own collection of friendly cyber-stalkers?

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  6. Nothing to see by BeerCat · · Score: 2

    According to his own page (https://www.facebook.com/AndrewNikolic4Bass/posts/327230677345451), "I have removed my response on this issue from Facebook"

    Which means that the link up top no longer works.

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  7. The handlers are using handcuffs... by samazon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Having worked on a political campaign.... It's getting more and more difficult to keep the "nastygrams" away from the candidate and his/her family these days. When you're on the trail especially, it's important to make sure that (a) your candidate stays focused and (b) your candidate's family and friends know that lashing out against these attacks makes the candidate look worse. It's hard to do that when everybody's Facebooking away at home with private accounts (and fake accounts... sigh...) - suffice to say, if any politician reacts like that to something so petty on Facebook, what other unreasonable reactions will s/he have?

    $0.02 - Nikolic needs a better campaign manager, if s/he is letting him do this kind of crazy shit.

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  8. This guy's a liberal? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd hate to see what Tasmania's conservatives are like 8-(

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    1. Re:This guy's a liberal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      he's a "big L" Liberal.

      Confusingly in Australia, the Liberal Party are the conservatives and the Labor Party are the liberals (with the Greens to the left of them).

      Of course, our Liberal Party would probably be to the left of the US's congressional democrats on most issues..

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    2. Re:This guy's a liberal? by tgd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      he's a "big L" Liberal.

      Confusingly in Australia, the Liberal Party are the conservatives and the Labor Party are the liberals (with the Greens to the left of them).

      Of course, our Liberal Party would probably be to the left of the US's congressional democrats on most issues..

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    3. Re:This guy's a liberal? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      The US is so conservative, our labels don't sync up well with the rest of the world, especially in the last 25 years.

      I don't think its a case of labels not matching up, but of the GOP (conservatives) being a conglomeration of several different groups. You have fiscal conservatives shoulder to shoulder with social conservatives as well as neocons (if they are a separate group)

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    4. Re:This guy's a liberal? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Nixon would be a far-left Democrat today but I think Reagan would still be very much in the Republican party...he was a borrow-and-spend pro-war social conservative (although we'd probably just call him a bigot by today's standards, socially he was off today's charts to the right) just like Bush Jr. Fiscally though he would be a centrist, leftish among Republicans today, but I don't think the Democrats would have him.

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    5. Re:This guy's a liberal? by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 2

      Yeah, the Labor Party are getting less liberal every day.

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    6. Re:This guy's a liberal? by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Confusingly yanks use the term "liberal" in a different way to the rest of the world. Liberalism in the rest of the world means small government, and "hands off". In Australia the "Liberal Party" is actually conservative. The Labor Party are centre-right. And the Greens manage to be the only major left-wing party. But give them power and they'll get corrupted as well.

      This is because the US founding fathers espoused Liberal (big L) beliefs, touting small government and personal freedoms. Therefore, US "conservatives" want a conservative reading of the founding documents (Constitution, federalist papers, et al) and a conservative application of laws and government (as little as necessary), while US "liberals" want a liberal reading of founding documents (allowing for things like abuse of the interstate commerce clause) and liberal application of government solutions (as much as the tax base can bear).

      The rest of the former British Empire slowly changed from monarchy to democracy, so "conservative" to them means a return to autocracy, whereas "liberal" means personal freedom. It gets confusing discussing politics on the Internet as a result, so remember to use more than titles (R/D/Con/Lib).

    7. Re:This guy's a liberal? by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      That's the real issue. The US is so conservative, our labels don't sync up well with the rest of the world, especially in the last 25 years.

      I think it is worse than that. I think the divsions between US parties are in a different dimension to the divisions between parties in different countries.

      What are some of the big issues dividing the Dems and Repubs: Abortion rights, gay marriage, etc. They are social issues, not economic issues. In other countries these things are not discussed in the context of political affiliation. .

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  9. Looks like we all have an article to 'like'.... by A+Commentor · · Score: 3

    Since the satire story is not directly linked.. just go to the "On Facebook" link above and down to May 3rd... It's the only post that day... Lets see if we can get it over 100,000.... It's only 67 right now....

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  10. Re:Typical neoconspam by caffemacchiavelli · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't care about the troll, but for anyone who doesn't want to look it up:

    "Liberal" in Australia's Liberal Party refers to economic liberalism, not center-left politics. They're pretty firm in right-wing territory, including the obligatory hate against homosexuals and women's rights. Add gun crazies, religious zealots and Birchers and you'd have the GOP*.

    *I'll refrain from making the obvious "Remove gun crazies, religious zealots and Birchers from the GOP and you're left with nothing" joke. Well, maybe not.

  11. Re:Typical by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a bit of a shock, I know, but those strange and barbarous foreign people are allowed to use words in a way that is different than their use in the US. I'm not sure why Jesus allows it; but it happens.

    In this case, the Tasmanian Liberals are more or less similar to those American 'Conservatives' who are still pretending to endorse the 'compassionate conservative' label.

    Note key phrases such as "We believe in the importance of the family and that the standards of a free society should support family ideals.", "We further believe government should not compete with an efficient private sector", "We believe that Australia has a constructive role to play in maintaining international peace in alliance with other free nations", and "We further believe that competitive enterprise, the free choice of consumers in the marketplace and individual effort will maximise economic growth and national prosperity.".

    You'd need a local observer to say to what degree these reflect genuine classical 'Liberalism', in something resembling the 19th century sense, and to what degree they reflect the rhetorical coating of a group of privatization-crazed crony capitalists with strong ties to local extraction industries and an enthusiasm for foreign policy adventurism; but these are not the 'liberals' in the American sense of the term...

  12. Free speech cuts both ways by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are free to express your opinions, but there are a few things to keep in mind. If you support an opinion by 'liking' it, you are basically supporting it with your name. It's like signing a petition: you surrender your anonymity in order to give more weight to the statement. But that will also mean that others disagreeing with you might like you less in the future, which is why you should only give your name to something you really agree with. This guy basically just republished the data others made publicly available on Facebook, which he is also free to do.

    1. Re:Free speech cuts both ways by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      You are free to express your opinions

      Actually no. There is no such thing as "free speech" in Australia.
       
      And "freedom of speech" varies by country around the world: Freedom of speech by country

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    2. Re:Free speech cuts both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually no. There is no such thing as "free speech" in Australia.

      Of course there is. Free speech is a human right, not something granted by the government. If free speech is abridged, it's a human rights violation. Ergo, there is free speech in Australia, but there may also be human rights violations in Australia.

    3. Re:Free speech cuts both ways by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      ... there may also be human rights violations in Australia.

      Who knew?

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  13. Who else? by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Tasmanian Liberal candidate for Bass, Andrew Nikolic"

    So who do the Liberals have running for lead singer, guitar and drums?

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  14. Whining like a little bitch by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, nice way to bust "macho Australian" and "tough vet" stereotypes in one fell swoop. Please let him be a "defence of marriage" type as well, those are always the funniest when they get busted trawling for trade in airport bathrooms.

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  15. Freedom of Speech by msobkow · · Score: 2

    Some politicians think it applies only to people who agree with them.

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  16. Re:I'm Andrew Nikolic by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Fuck you, I am the cyber police.

    Try me.

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  17. Vote Nikolic for Warlord of Tasmania by Jesus_C_of_Nazareth · · Score: 2

    Nikolic's profile on his campaign site seems to almost entirely given over to describing his military experience. A decent military record is certainly a positive trait, yet a bit strange when overplayed to the exclusion of almost everything else. Did he miss his chance for a position in Myanmar, and is now settling for Tasmania?

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  18. That has never been true anywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The terms stem from the french parliament where progressives used to sit on the left side and "conservatives" on the right side. These days there are no universal definitions of what are left and right wing and the terms are even more meaningless if we look at economic politics. For example, both socialists and anarchists are considered left wing, though their views on the desired economic system are like night and day. I think that most widely agreed definitions base "left-wing" on some form of social justice and equality and right-wing on being conservative (both economic and social conservatism). That's not 100% perfect but it's pretty much as good as can be expect for such simple terms.

    I'm not aware of any point in history or any location on earth, in which the terms would have referred solely on economic principles and not on the whole parties/social movements/etc...

  19. Right-wing echo chamber by microbox · · Score: 2

    I hear ya.....tell that to Obama...I've never seen a guy with such thin skin.

    There is actual real criticism that could be made of Obama. I rarely hear conservatives making it -- but instead get bizarrely off the mark dribble like this. Any outside observer will note that Obama is a very cool rational person who speaks in measured tones -- quite the opposite of what you suggest.

    This is, of course, falling on deaf ears, since perspective is completely alien to people who say things like "Obama has such a thin skin". You just know that it comes from some right-wing echo chamber that's disconnected from the rest of the world. I know it is scary to break out of this comfy padded cell, but seriously, this is just madness.

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