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Canadian IP Lobby Calls For ACTA, SOPA & Warrantless Search
An anonymous reader writes "The Canadian intellectual property's lead lobby group, the Canadian IP Council (which represent the music, movie, software and pharma industries) released a new policy document (PDF) yesterday that identifies its legislative priorities for the coming years. Anyone hoping that the SOPA protests, the European backlash against ACTA, and the imminent passage of Canadian copyright reform might moderate the lobby group demands will be sorely disappointed. Michael Geist says it is the most extremist IP policy document ever released in Canada, calling for the implementation of ACTA, SOPA-style rules including
website blocking and stopping search queries from resolving, liability for advertisers and payment companies, massive surveillance at the border and through delivery channels including searching through individual packages without court
oversight, and spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars on private enforcement."
Reader Bloozguy adds more legislative bad news for Canadians: Bill C30, the country's much-maligned warrantless internet surveillance bill, is coming back with new provisions that would give the U.S. government access to Canadian citizens' private data.
The only reaction I have if Fuck you! Why don't they install chips in our asses as well to see if we accidentally farted a theme song! What a bunch of idiots!
... Al Qaeda when you have the US and Canadian Governments?
Hey there, watcha doin' on them tubes, eh?
There needs to be some law or provision set where they can't keep trying this BS. Canadians have already told
them to kindly take off. Leave our internet alone.
If the government insists on collecting income tax and sales tax from me then I demand that they start representing me. Here is what I want them to say to the Canadian IP Council: GTFO.
I not only pay my taxes but I buy music and TV shows from iTunes. However, I have no interest in seem more laws. I want smaller government, not a larger welfare state for the corporations or individuals. Corporations should be forced to use civil courts for their grievances for copyright. It should be considered breach of contract or license and not a criminal act.
Stop using my tax money for your crap.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
The US is like a big brother who keeps barging into your room and going through
your stuff.
Every time you see the phrase "someone wants warrentless ", it is a helpful exercise to read it as "someone wants to be able to do whenever they feel like it, with or without cause and accountability".
The majority Conservatives already dropped all of these provisions from C-11 as they're highly unpopular. Recent polls are now in the news showing that the New Democrats are tied with them, and may even be slightly leading. I really doubt they will back this and risk the next election over it.
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Seems like a typical example of door-in-the-face technique.
This is the damage done by one year of Harper.
We've three more years of hell before we'll be rid of him, even though his government is illegitimate and does not have a real majority because of the robocall scandal.
Living under a fascist government sucks royally when their ideals for the nation are your worst nightmares.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
"From time to time the Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Civil disobedience is its nature manure." - Thomas Jefferson, 1790s. Of course what Jefferson ACTUALLY did was to form a new party called the Democrat-Republicans, and takeover the government in 1800. They dominated politics for the next three decades. WE need to take back our government(s) in Canada, the EU and the US.
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No. An army of acid belching mutant ponies. With cyborg riders designed to override all of Asimov's laws on command from central in an undisclosed island fortress, accessible only via private submarine.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
... something i read some days ago on here...
Canada No Pirate Nation: Global Leader In Music Download Sales
Well if there was any sort of meaningful political and economic consequence for representing private interests at societies general expense, then this behaviour might stop. But as it is, the same two parties representing slightly different business interests flip in and out of power as they screw up the living standards further, while retired politicians go on to make millions from their time in power. This is not just a Canada/US phenomena, and big mainstream media keeps us all fearful and voting for the same clowns time and again. Sigh.
It's a war of attrition: 1) A bill is submitted, public outrage ensues, legislators back off support, the bill dies. 2) A new, slightly different bill is submitted. 3) . Goto 1. Oops, forgot to put in the "public finally gets tired of hearing about it, less and less outrage, a bill finally passes" exit from the loop. Lobbyists never quit.
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goths will feel like they created the world and Le philip de Dick will be tossing around in his grave partying til eternity o no wait, i meant like terminator-esque, o no wait , i cant find the right novel / movie to compare it with, hunger games was so oscarry and mostly boring
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
The more unsuccessful an interest group becomes, the more strident and extreme its demands become.
This is a direct result of the failure of ACTA, SOPA et al - a desperation move, not the head-in-the-sand reaction implied by the summary.
So.. it has come to this
Sounds like the Canadians finally read the book.
Now that Canada seems to be twirling down the same fascist toilet as my own beloved America, you folks can begin to understand our predicament!
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
It seems to me that the obvious long-term solution to this problem is to create lobby groups that are diametrically opposed to these IP lobby groups. The IP lobby groups aren't going away, so we need more ALCUs in this world to defend civil liberties, privacy, and advocate massive copyright reform.
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All that momentum and energy they have, with protests and marches and the occaisonal violence happening every day, for over 100 days now, and for what? To keep tuition unrealistically cheap. I wish that social unrest could be used for something far more important, such as Harper's "anti-crime" legislation.
Sometimes i have this idea that we should just launch our 5000 or how many we have straight up, /pissyrant
and once they reign down, the 8 of us that survive can feel the freedom our forefathers had,
and we can do like we did before and make a pilgrimage for the new homeland...
Being an American was once something to be proud of, granted far before i was born, but, wtf happened?
If i say we need to take the government back i'm red-flagged and a terrorist, i'm told to cast my vote to the pre-seeded bullshit,
i once saw the quote that said it better than i could: "If elections changed anything they'd have been outlawed years ago".
...and spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars on private enforcement.
Right out of the "conservative" playbook - "socialize expenses, privatize profits". I like my word better - fascist.
united hackers association calls for all people asking for sopa ACTA and warrantless laws to be rounded up and put in an arena where will have a pack a chihuahua's that aint been feed in a 4 weeks let loose on them
we also ask that all copyright is abolished ZERO years and patents are reduced to 10 years, and asking an illegal govt to do your bidding is just gonna make it all that worse for what comes after
were gonna turf this shits and then were coming for you
after all that model that cut up that guy is part fo the hollywood industry all we need is more nuts like him having more free time to sit around get wasted and dream of ways to harm more people.
in other words
GO FUCK YOURSELF
My guess is that the original anonymous poster is Michael Geist, looking for hits on his blog. Also, I think he/you meant to say "most extreme IP policy document" - extremist is a noun.
"The report doesn't mention that the Business Software Alliance recently released its annual global software piracy report with new data that not only shows that Canada hit yet another all-time low but has the biggest percentage decline in the world over the past five years." - http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6528/125/
I would hate to see what they would do if pirating was getting worse.
economically , politically and socially he's done....when the NDP party surpasses you at the end of year one you know your screwed. even the liberals are gaining....in a few weeks and months as this bill gets enacted your gonna see a ton of anger ....while i don't condone violence i can see it coming i warned them and what happened some hollywood model sends body parts to the govt
haha
perfect example why not to pander to these crazy nuts any more.
fact is the usa is like 12+ years ahead of us on this road ....think 1998 DMCA
and it wont happen people are already rising up all over canada now
even in ontario there are protests starting now....
people have woken up and looked about and they aint liking what they see.
go ahead harper when 5 million people knock on your door you go get every cop in canada and the military
thats only just less then 80K soldiers. and its not the institution we hate its the man and his illegal fraudster govt.
The Canadian IP Council. Write that down fellow Canucks. The Canadian IP Council.
Who owns it, runs it, funds it, is employed by it. What did they have for breakfast. Where is their headquarters. Who are the local media that will be covering the protest I am going to organize.
First step is identification. Second step is to acquire intelligence. Step Three? Not sure, but step two will keep me busy until I can think up a step three. Maybe step three will be obvious after step two is finished.
Somebody good with the Facebook and the Twitter can start the Anti-Canadian IP Council page thingie. Just grab a piece. Do whatever you can. Don't do anything illegal. A little bit of pressure from a thousand points with no central command or structure will be effective.
... and boy, are this bunch offensive.
time to start hunting these fuckers. taking a few out will have the rest of these cunts scrambling for cover and shutting the fuck up.
200 ridings with ...201 investigations of vote fraud
and del maestro is now one of them if not already and i got a letter telling me to go vote at a new place and went good to know my vote didn't count isn't it....
if you don't consider yourself Canadian leave Canada i mean it. if you want to play divisive go elsewhere and i know loads in quebec whom don't think like you in fact ive seen nearly the same writing on a conservative blog where you got nearly no seats....
When the USA was threatened with SOPA, many critics united from all over the world in an almost single voice to make their objections to it known... and the impact was felt.
With Canada now facing the same issue, I cannot help but wonder if other countries will be as willing to help a country that may only have a tenth of the population, but is one that is supposed to be no less free.
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It only costs big IP about $100 million a year to suborn the U.S. federal government, administration and Congress. What are they spending up in Canada?
Assasination can be seen as the ultimate 'un-Diplomatic Act'. It usually follows a series of other un-Diplomatic acts, such as bill C-30. The current Canadian government has done a lot of craphead things in the past few months. They are a one-term government. If they try to push this through, it may well be a lot less than one term. Just sayin'.
No more of these pieces of shit. Next motherfucker introducing another fucking bill should have their political career ended.
PS: still no fucking banksters arrested
All this with a computer bs needs to stop. A man in my local area ran down and killed an elderly woman while driving under the influence of alcohol. He was given 2-4 years. If you get caught "infringing copyrights" you are looking at 10+ years. This is rediculous!
The 2011 Canadian census was processed by Lockheed Martin. Under the Patriot Act, Homeland Security can compel any US company to surrender any data, and can also compel them to withhold all information about the surrender of data. So if Homeland Security wanted the 2011 Canadian census data, they could get it, and nobody would hear about it.
This represents a definitive intelligence test. If you think they don't already have it, you're incredibly stupid.
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Reminds me of Bellsouth trying thru litigation to control everything back in the 30 and 40's. They want some kind of monopoly and destructions of the internet if they can get away with it. Next will be more limited Internet until its just a big advertising media without any substance. Nothing new when money is involved and greed takes over.
In the last Canadian election, the third party increased their number of seats by close to an order of magnitude compared to their previous best showing, to become the official opposition. Sadly the first thing they did was move towards the centre. Policies like legalizing marijuana, dropped, along with much else of their platform that I've always liked. It's sad that, especially in first past the post systems, that no matter who the parties are, they end up the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Our present government is very pro (big) business and probably at heart believe that if you're smart enough to buy some IP, then you deserve the full protection of the State to protect your property.
Of course the fact that almost every media outlet (owned by 2 or 3 companies now) was pushing the current government full time during the last election is much of the reason they were voted in and I'd guess they remind the government of this regularly.
Our campaign reforms haven't seemed to have worked and the first thing this government did was remove the public half of those reforms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
I want OFF this fucking planet.
Live your life accordingly.
Time to engage the system people. Canadian MPs get their votes from the public, so inform your local MP of the issues and make your case. You can also inform them your votes will be for the person who will implement your vision of what public policy and legislation should be. If the current gov't wants to stay in it should be listening to the public or it will find itself on the curb. I've written my MP, and I suggest to all my fellow Canadians that they do the same. Politicians are influenced by public opinion, so make yours known. To be silent is to be unheard. FYI: MPs probably don't read slashdot, so don't bother posting rants here - find your MP and write them, continuously.