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NPR's "Car Talk" Glides To a Halt

stevegee58 writes "After 25 years on the air, Tom and Ray Magliozzi (aka Click and Clack, The Tappet Brothers) are calling it quits in September. With their nerdy humor, explosive laughter and geek cred (both MIT alums) Tom and Ray will be sorely missed by the average NPR-listening Slashdotter." How many garages have names as cool as "Hacker's Haven"? I've long thought that someone should assemble a compilation featuring nothing but hours of their laughter. (Which will be available for sampling, since they will continue to play archived material for a long time yet.)

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  1. Shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nooooooo! These guys were brilliant!

  2. Sad day by Igorod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sad day indeed.

    1. Re:Sad day by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sad.

      I'm often seen walking down the street listening to their podcast grinning like a total idiot.
      I have several years worth to catch up on. Maybe I better order something from their Shameless Products division before those disappear as well.

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    2. Re:Sad day by hal2814 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Indeed. Their forum helped me find a local mechanic I could trust. I didn't always catch their show, but I'll certainly miss them.

  3. Sadness. by iiii · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This makes me feel sad. They were a great part of Saturday mornings. I know they are up at retirement age, but I hope they find some other projects that help them share their wit and wisdom. Click and Clack Rock.

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    1. Re:Sadness. by iiii · · Score: 4, Informative
      BTW, here is their actual message to the fans announcing their retirement:

      http://www.cartalk.com/content/time-get-even-lazier

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  4. Dodge Dart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think that when they saw the Dodge Dart was coming back on to the market, they decided to get out of the business.

  5. All the anti-NPR vitriol this story incites by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The mouth-breathers see "NPR" and have flooded every forum on the internet with their ass-hate "libtard yuck-yuck" comments. It's a great show, more for entertainment value than anything. Oh yeah, and NPR listeners are bar none the most well-informed news consumers in this country.

    My local station plays the show at 7 or 8 Wednesday nights which is when I usually catch it.

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    1. Re:All the anti-NPR vitriol this story incites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Can we stop using "mouth breathers" as a euphemism for low intelligence? There are plenty of people that actually do breathe through their mouth due to problems with their noses, but are otherwise quite intelligent.

      Thanks,
      An intelligent mouth breather

    2. Re:All the anti-NPR vitriol this story incites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen brother!

      And NPR is probably the closest thing to unbiased reporting we'll ever get in this country. The have stories that I never see anywhere else in US based media. And I don't know why it called "Liberal". On any hot topic, they make an effort to get both sides - and they don't have crackpots representing the other side either. When they cover an issue, by the time the segment is over, I very rarely have a definite opinion either way because when they've finished, I can understand both sides and either sides reasoning. They constantly have Conservatives on stating their views, opinions and their side. And on many occasions on some issues, I have taken the Conservative's side because of NPR's reporting; which I can't say that about any other US based news outlet.

      NPR - "Liberal" indeed.

    3. Re:All the anti-NPR vitriol this story incites by TexVex · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I listen to NPR during my daily work commute, and that has definitely made me much more well-informed about world news.

      I've caught snippets of Car Talk on the occasional Saturday morning where I'm out driving early, and it's always been entertaining. I'm no expert in cars, but I've replaced my own brake pads, changed my own oil, and recently even worked through a do-it-yourself oxygen sensor replacement. The show is both entertaining and informative; the hosts are witty and the subject matter is at the right level for someone who realizes that you don't have to get screwed over by a repair shop for a burnt-out headlamp.

      On a recent road trip, I found myself in a weird no-man's land somewhere in North Carolina where I could only pick up talk radio and country music. I ended up actually listening to Rush Limbaugh for a short stretch. I was absolutely amazed at the complete lack of substance in his show. It was nothing but taking a random fact and then spewing heavily slanted personal opinion about it.

      For those who choose to listen to that kind of crap over something like Diane Rhem or All Things Considered or Kojo Nnamdi, all I can do is just beg: Give it one hour. Any of those three shows. You will get twenty times the information and one twentieth the spoon-fed opinion from it than you will get from Rush.

      Listening to conservative talk radio is for those who can't be bothered to learn the truth or think for themselves. If you won't listen to NPR because you think it's "liberal" then you are doing yourself and your species a huge disservice, and you are worth nothing but contempt.

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  6. My current fav Cartalk advice by willoughby · · Score: 4, Funny

    After recommending muriatic acid to remove concrete overspray from a cars paint they added the advice to "test it out on a neighbors car first". I will really miss these guys.

    1. Re:My current fav Cartalk advice by RapidEye · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, that was funny.
      And they capped it off by bringing the guy back on last week for Stump the Chumps.
      Ya know what - it worked! Muriatic acid removed the concrete and didn't hurt the finish!!!
      Well done Ray! =-)

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  7. Re:About bloody time by makisupa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess you can tag the parent Flamebait, but I think it serves a valid purpose. Not everyone loves the show. Some people are sickened by the thousands of hours of perfectly good broadcast time that are wasted on the hyenas in question each week.

    To quote Harry Shearer, whose Le Show followed Car Talk at the time, "Memo to the Car Talk guys: Stop Laughing."

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  8. Re:Hacker's Haven??? by Mr+Z · · Score: 4, Informative

    Back in the 70s when they had said garage, a "hack" was someone who was unskilled or at least an amateur at whatever it was they were trying to accomplish. Hackers were just dedicated hobbyists. Their Hacker's Haven was a shop for DIY shade-tree mechanics to rent space at to work on their project cars. It wasn't until sometime into the 80s that "hacker" started taking on a different meaning.

    In any case, TSA and DHS didn't exist yet, they weren't yet on the air so the FCC wouldn't give two shakes. The most they might have to worry about is ending up in a Bufile at the FBI, which seems unlikely.

  9. Re:About bloody time by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a show about a couple of guys having a good time while talking about cars.

    It hits the nail on the head. I'm sorry people laughing cut's you so sharply. really, you should see some one.

    HAHahhahahahahahaha hahaha

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  10. Re:About bloody time by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's just bitter because he has forgotten how to make people laugh.

    Shearer hasn't been really funny for a long time.

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  11. Re:They Were Actually Frauds by bussdriver · · Score: 4, Informative

    You sir have no idea how tv or radio production works. Sorry to ruin your world.

    A real diagnosis would be everybit as horrible as helping a relative on the phone with a computer problem-- most the call is trying to communicate and often does not properly describe what is going on then you look like some git when it doesn't work and it was actually THEIR fault. If they really did know their stuff it would be a typical production to have them do the work upfront and NOT on the air where it could easily take most of the show to properly handle problem besides being BORING to listeners/viewers. It is not a "speak with a sex therapist" show where the topic is the only thing holding it together.

  12. Re:They Were Actually Frauds by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is a perfect example of fact based reporting and opinion based reporting, and the sad state fo the world in which random opinion is considered equivalent to fact. For instance, the opinion that Rush Limbaugh is a child molester based on the fact that he had a sex party in a country that at the time trafficked in young boys for sex is considered a fact by the large percentage of Americans who believe opinions not fully supported by facts. Of course there is no real for us to know this is true, so a legitiimate new organization is not going report it, yet opinions as spurious as these are reported as news every day, in a false attempt to be fair and balanced.

    I am sure this is done like every other show. People are screened, a number of recordings are made, and the best are broadcast. The show is edited to fit the hour timeline, and of course the calls that don't work are not broadcast. They probably use old calls as fillers. Those who listen to the show also know they have had callers call back to see if the diagnosis is correct, and at this time they include situations where diagnosis was wrong.

    This is pretty typical. I watched a taping of Wait Wait, and it is also heavily edited. Not all the answers are given at the time of the question, and it is edited for time. There seems to a general attempt to show that NPR and PRI are not fact based using minor incidents of non disclosure. For instance, there is a great brouhaha over the work of humorist David Sedaris. Now, I understand that are some sad people who believe that every word in the biography of Ronald Reagan is true, but reasonable people among us know that any story, not matter how based on fact, is to some degree apocryphal. Recollections are based on reconstructing memory, which is highly unreliable. We get a realistic point of view by listening the recollection of many people.

    What we have here is the proposition that a live unedited show based on personal opinion is more valid that a semi-scripted researched show based on fact.

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  13. I was actually on the show! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's how it worked:

    - You call the 800 number, describe your problem, if it sounds interesting the producer (Doug Berman) called you back and scheduled you for the show. So the problem is already known.

    - About Thursday afternoon before the weekend broadcast you called in to essentially a conference call a few minutes before your slot and got to hear the end of the previous caller. I suppose this is to get you in the mood, all it did is make me come down with a bad case of flop sweat.

    - You're on, you talk to the guys for five or ten minutes. They (correctly) guessed the solution to my problem pretty fast, primarily I think because they saw it before in their garage. My time was edited down a bit, but it was mostly verbatim.

    - They do not send you a copy of the broadcast, the only way I have one is because I recorded it off my local NPR station when it hit the air.

    That's the scoop. This is Tom from Michigan with a mysterious oil leak in his Z28 Camaro signing off.

  14. Actually, that's entirely false by Theaetetus · · Score: 5, Informative

    I called in once to see about getting a diagnosis on a car issue. They took the info, and said they would get back if they found it interesting, but if they did, then the whole phone call would be essentially scripted. They would do (or have done) a diagnosis off air, then pretend to figure it out all in the span of a few hyena-larious moments on air.

    Experts my ass.

    Sorry, that's a lie. I was the assistant chief engineer for WBUR for 8 years, and I sat in on the recordings of many of their shows. I've also consulted for Car Talk, fixing their network and computers, and have stayed at one producer's house in New Hampshire.

    The producers screen the calls (they get hundreds each week), but Tom and Ray know nothing about each call. They're presented with the person's name, city, and car type, and that's it.

    Mind you, the recording of the show is over 2 hours, and then gets edited down, but no - the calls are not scripted, they haven't pre-diagnosed the problem, and yes, they figure it all out during the phone call. That call may be edited from 20 minutes down to 5, but it's still their first (and only) crack at the problem.

    I'm not sure why you'd lie about something like this, but it's probably some sort of mean joke like your sig, because of your own personal insecurity and desire for attention. Just as I hope others don't believe this, I hope your wife sees your posts.