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Why VCs Really Reject Startups

itwbennett writes "Instead of simply not following up with startup proposals that he doesn't intend to pursue, venture capitalist Josh Breinlinger decided to change things up and not only hear every pitch request but respond with honest feedback. For those on the receiving end of that honest feedback, Breinlinger's silence may have been golden. It turns out that Breinlinger, and perhaps most VCs, reject your proposals because you lack experience and leadership skills and your team is weak. Would you rather hear the hard truth about why your startup didn't get funded or some vague dismissal?"

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  1. Hard truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't fix what you don't know.

    1. Re:Hard truth by SomePgmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed. And even without asking for funding from an outside party, I wish I'd gotten some honest advice before pursuing some of my past ideas.

      I suspect most would say this though... right up until they hear why their idea sucks. Then that person is, "just a cranky old hater trying to ruin my dreams".

    2. Re:Hard truth by SomePgmr · · Score: 4, Funny

      I should've added, it reminds me very much of this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6gZ4vk_Tw4

      Which is a conversation I've had more than once with only minor variation.

    3. Re:Hard truth by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I suspect most would say this though... right up until they hear why their idea sucks. Then that person is, "just a cranky old hater trying to ruin my dreams".

      Maybe so, but if my dream is going to be ruined, I'd rather it happened before my career and/or personal finances were ruined with it.

      My immediate reaction to the original question, "Would you rather hear the hard truth about why your startup didn't get funded or some vague dismissal?", was that almost everyone who is ever going to succeed in business would want the hard truth, and a lot of people who were going to fail would think they knew better and didn't need to hear it.

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    4. Re:Hard truth by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting
      IMHO what's difficult is giving constructive feedback to somebody who doesn't interview well or doesn't perform well on the job simply because they aren't very intelligent. I don't know what to tell them. It's not helpful to say "don't get confused so often" or "have better ideas."

      (And I say this freely admitting there are people smart enough to justifiably feel the same way about me.)

    5. Re:Hard truth by SomePgmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm neither a successful VC or a gajillionaire start-up guy, but I hope I'd think of it like this...

      If someone points out a problem with my idea and I immediately get defensive, it's probably a very serious problem.

      If it's something I've heard more than once, I'm probably really screwed.

      If they made a judgement based on my pitch and I think it's because they just don't understand, then I'm probably not good at communicating ideas and I'll probably fail at communicating the idea to the masses, too. That's a big weakness, just of a different variety.

      If I think I've explained it well, in a way everyone would understand, their concerns are not problems, and it's a very workable idea... I'd ask myself how someone that evaluates these ideas for a (successful) living could be that, "stupid". More likely than not, an amateur like me is wrong, not the other guy. Work from there...

    6. Re:Hard truth by AlexOsadzinski · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh man, this is a hard one. I was a VC for almost 8 years, and made a point of giving feedback, because I'd done 6 startups before, and knew how frustrating fundraising can be. There's nothing worse than being turned down (or ignored) with a BS reason, because you can't learn from it.

      If the reason was "I don't understand your space and so can't add value", or "We don't invest in companies at your stage" or "We already have a competitive company in this space", it went down ok with the entrepreneur(s). If it was "I don't have confidence in the market opportunity" or "I think that there's too much risk in your technology (this never applies to software, but often applies to new semiconductors, batteries, alternative energy and the like)", it sometimes annoyed the entrepreneurs.

      But, if the reason was "You're not the right CEO", oh, boy, it usually went badly. The problem was, that was the most common reason.

      Worst of all were the crazy people. #1 on the crazy list are the "lossless compression" types. Even taking them through the math that, of course, no compression scheme can reduce all arbitrary data sets (n bits can only represent 2^n different data sets) had no effect. They also tended to get the most annoyed when I turned them down. #2 was the astonishing number of entrepreneurs who would present business plans showing revenues over the next 4 years of $1M, $10M, $100M and $1B, with >95% profit in that 4th year. Telling them that they simply had no idea about how to run a business also went badly. You could invent matter transmission and not get that kind of profitability.

      There's another reason that VCs don't always give feedback: they don't want to miss the deal if another VC decides to invest. Maybe that other VC sees something unique, or has a plan to replace the not-good CEO, or something else. VCs really hate it when they invest in a company and it all goes to hell, and they lose their investment. They hate it even more if they turn down a deal and someone else makes a fortune on it. Some of the more self-effacing (and hence more likeable) firms will post on their sites a list of the great companies that they turned down. A lot of people turned down Google and Facebook, for example.

      I still think that the best way is to give honest feedback, without being offensive.

    7. Re:Hard truth by Kergan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Had I asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have answered stronger horses". (Henry Ford)

      Your points are valid, but only up to the point. Some people, and VCs are no exception, simply can't see the elephant in the room. I'd wager that more than a few VCs rejected, say, Google, or Twitter, or Instagram. When you're doing something completely out of the box, your audience will generally not get what you're onto.

      The guy who started Europe Assistance is but one example. Faced with rebuttals from his potential financiers that there was no demand, he eventually showed them a phony market study that suggested there is. The rest is history.

    8. Re:Hard truth by Surt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. A VC is a person who got lucky, once. It doesn't qualify them to judge startups, but allows them to do so.

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    9. Re:Hard truth by Larryish · · Score: 2

      Wrong.

      Life is a meritocracy.

    10. Re:Hard truth by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      Life is a meritocracy.

      Tell that to everyone who scores in the 1% across the board on aptitude tests but isn't in the 1% economically.

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    11. Re:Hard truth by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your benefit is the result of your action.

      It is also a result of the opportunities you had.

      Life might be a meritocracy if everyone started out with equal opportunities, but that obviously isn't even close to true.

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    12. Re:Hard truth by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      You forgot a very important one:

      4) The VC made the wrong call.

      Successful VCs will, on average, make successful investment decisions, but the "on average" really matters. No VC can possibly be an expert in every field that every candidate company works in, and no expert in any interesting, fast-moving field can possibly explain all the intricate details to educate the VC fully within the kind of discussions we're talking about. At some point, it's going to come down to a judgement by the VC of whether the ideas/assumptions/resources/whatever underlying the business plan are sound.

      That means it is entirely possible that a given VC will decide against funding a business, even if in fact the plan was reasonable and would have been a good investment, simply because that particular VC didn't understand the business/market/whatever and there wasn't time to get educated enough to make a better decision.

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    13. Re:Hard truth by Surt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wish life were a meritocracy. It'd be so much better a world to live in. The actuality is closer to a corrupt lottery.

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    14. Re:Hard truth by Surt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But the reality is that your benefit is NOT typically the result of your action. The most probable way to become rich in our society is to be born that way. That's the opposite of meritocracy, assuming you subscribe to the standard definition of meritocracy.

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    15. Re:Hard truth by DigMarx · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember when I thought things could be boiled down to a meaningless three-word sentence. Then I turned 6.

    16. Re:Hard truth by chrismcb · · Score: 2

      The hard truth. If they say some vague wishy washy thing, you might try and fix the vague wishy washy thing, even though that isn't the problem.
      As far as hearing why your idea sucks, I think it depends. If they say "your idea sucks." then yeah he is "just a cranky old hater..." But if he says "your idea sucks because of X, Y, and Z" You can either try to change X, Y or Z. or do further research on the subject

    17. Re:Hard truth by chrismcb · · Score: 2

      "Had I asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have answered stronger horses". (Henry Ford)

      I would much rather have the customer or VC tell me that they want stronger horses. Rather than say "blah blah blah but quite the time" or some other vague nonsense. The hard truth is always better. It gives me a chance to refute it, or come up with an answer to it. Vague nonsense is just that, nonsense

    18. Re:Hard truth by slew · · Score: 2

      I think some people miss a very important point about VC funding. For some business plans, you really need to get it (e.g., for corporate connection reasons if there is no other "exit-plan" for your business). It isn't just about the money. If it is the case you need to get VC money and you can't craft your business plan to attract VC funding, no matter how good your idea might be to your end customers, your business plan is a fail.

      Sure, some VCs get it wrong, but many folks instead blame the VCs instead of their plan. A VC is simply a customer for your business equity like a end-user is a customer for your product. Many folks forget they are selling their equity to the VC and their product to the end-user. Sure the VC might be interested in the details of your product, but that's not what they are buying.

      Of course some business just need money and that is something that can be gotten from Angel investors, relatives, or even credit cards, but if you need to strike while the fire is hot, sometimes VC funding is required.

    19. Re:Hard truth by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      "If you seek VC funding and do not get it" obviously implies rejection by multiple VCs.

      For what it's worth, no, it doesn't. In fact, given the context, I read it exactly as the possible outcomes from meeting one particular VC who then turned you down.

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    20. Re:Hard truth by marcosdumay · · Score: 2

      The hard truth:

      Sorry, I haven't looked at your application long enough to have any concrete idea about it. At first glance your idea(|team) sucks, but I didn't lose my time looking for the details, so I can't tell them to you. I have only a gut feeling, but it is enough to reject you (the rules for acceptance are more stringent).

      I can understand why it would break some people. I can also understand why the VC is afraid the answer would burn bridges. Altough, yes, it is better to know that than any wish whashy excuse.

    21. Re:Hard truth by rhakka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      that's a fantastic fantasy you have there. that's why all those hard working african kids starving to death in the desert deserve what they got, right?

    22. Re:Hard truth by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Am I the only one that thinks article is incredibly obvious?

      "you lack experience and leadership skills and your team is weak" = Thx Captain Obvious, think every startup is started by the guy with 20+ yrs experience and a terrific team willing to work for ZERO pay?

      Then just buy the idea. Facebook would have survived without zuckerberg and all the other great startups out there probably didn't need the person that originally started it. Once the ball is rolling you just need people with the experience and a great team to keep it going.

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    23. Re:Hard truth by SomePgmr · · Score: 2

      You probably already know this but in case you haven't, I read that Indiegogo.com is good for that sort of thing. I imagine KS has a bigger audience though.

    24. Re:Hard truth by ghostdoc · · Score: 2

      "you lack experience and leadership skills and your team is weak" = Thx Captain Obvious, think every startup is started by the guy with 20+ yrs experience and a terrific team willing to work for ZERO pay?

      But hang on... a startup goes to a VC and says 'can I have a lot of your money please?'. The VC has to make a decision not about whether the founding team are nice people or whether they 'deserve' a break. The team has to have enough experience and the necessary skills to carry off the idea, if they don't then they're a bad investment and the VC should save their money for a team that does have the experience.
      You can get the experience by working for startups and small businesses. Bonus: it's fun too.

      Then just buy the idea. Facebook would have survived without zuckerberg and all the other great startups out there probably didn't need the person that originally started it. Once the ball is rolling you just need people with the experience and a great team to keep it going.

      But VC's aren't there to buy ideas and build teams. Remember, the startup came to them and said 'we've got this great idea and the team to make it work, can we have a chunk of your money to make this happen, please?' There was no option for 'we've got this great idea but we're pretty clueless about how to make it work, so do you want to do all the hard work and provide all the funding and we'll just have some money?'.

      The value in a startup is not the idea. Ideas are cheap and abundant. Making an idea (any idea) into a profitable business takes skill, hard work and luck. All the value is in the implementation.

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    25. Re:Hard truth by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's no idea so good it can't be torpedoed by incompetent management. Facebook could have died a million ways from expanding the wrong way, spamming their customers, monetizing their customers, intrusive ads, turning their interface into something ugly or annoying or buggy, high downtime, simply being too slow to expand and getting leapfrogged or whatever. One bad apple is always replaceable but if you feel the team they've put together isn't up to the task, if you don't have confidence in the decisions they've taken so far how are you going to have confidence in them going forwards? How can you know that they haven't already hired a bunch of people that are going to be sand in the machinery? It's foolish to think you can pop in a new CEO or even CxOs and fix everything.

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    26. Re:Hard truth by Surt · · Score: 2

      Nah, understanding how the world really works, and using that to manipulate people is a recipe for success.

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  2. Old business doesn't want new business by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The business climate in the US is: old, entrenched businesses fight other old, entrenched businesses in a race for the cheapest shit. New businesses either make no money or bring something to the table that will eventually be bought by the old business. VC money is better spent on patent trolls and companies they can sell for a quick profit.

    1. Re:Old business doesn't want new business by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Capitalism at work

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    2. Re:Old business doesn't want new business by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Crony capitalism at work

      FTFY

    3. Re:Old business doesn't want new business by turbidostato · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Crony capitalism at work"

      As if there were any other.

      A good old guy going to business with another good old guy he is confident of.

      Wouldn't you do exactly the same?

      (Yes, it's an aporia: you either answer "yes", making my point, or you answer no, and then I'd say "that's why you are not a millionarie in the position of becoming a VC").

    4. Re:Old business doesn't want new business by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The business climate in the US is: old, entrenched businesses fight other old, entrenched businesses in a race for the cheapest shit.

      Which is, of course, why young/rejuvenated companies like Apple, Google and Facebook have never made any money and are just looking to get bought out by older and more entrenched players like Microsoft, Yahoo and IBM.

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  4. Not surprised. by johnny+cashed · · Score: 2

    If the reason is lack of leadership skills/experience and a weak team. If they had those qualities, they might not need to go seeking a VC for help. On the other hand, sounds like a catch all for VC rejection.

    1. Re:Not surprised. by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2

      If they had those qualities, they might not need to go seeking a VC for help.

      Just because you have the skills to run a business and create something profitable doesn't mean you have the money to start it up. Perhaps you've heard of this company called Google - started with a $25 million investment from Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers and Sequoia Capital.

    2. Re:Not surprised. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Perhaps you've heard of this company called Google - started with a $25 million investment from Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers and Sequoia Capital.

      No. Google had been around for years, and had a solid track record by the time VCs got interested. They did get angel funding of $100K earlier, but even that was after they had been up and running for over a year.

    3. Re:Not surprised. by Missing.Matter · · Score: 3, Informative

      A venture capitalist is typically distinct from an angel investor. Angels typically are individuals who invest in very early companies and take on very high risk. VCs are typically institutional investors who invest at later stages at higher capital levels. They also take on risk but not ask much as an angel investor.

  5. Toughen Up by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would you rather hear the hard truth about why your startup didn't get funded or some vague dismissal?

    If you can't handle hearing the cold, hard truth then you are in the wrong line of business. Period.

    1. Re:Toughen Up by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2

      If the investor turns out to be mistaken, keeps them from having really bad PR of telling the next Brin, Page or Zukerberg that they aren't fit to be a CEO in their early days.

      Except that Brin and Page were told EXACTLY that by the guy who did fund them. Hence the arrival of Eric Schmidt.

  6. Ideas are worthless by Schezar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ideas are worthless. We have great ideas all the time (or at least, ideas we think are great). The value of a business proposal isn't in the idea, it's in the execution of the idea.

    The most important things to a serious VC when it comes to a startup have almost nothing to do with the idea itself. You don't have to convince them of the idea: they've probably heard it before already. You're trying to convince them that YOU are the one to EXECUTE that idea, and that you can do it better than anyone else. If you can't, then the'll fund that other person instead.

    When you approach a VC, the only thing you bring to the table is your ability to execute the plan you've proposed.

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    1. Re:Ideas are worthless by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      Ideas are worthless.

      Nonsense. That's just Silicon Valley start-up wishful thinking, usually parroted by people who haven't had a really good big idea yet and think that because they are awesomely elite hackers and greedy they will make millions from the next mobile social networking gimmick that is slightly different from the last mobile social networking gimmick. These are the same kind of people who think "I've started three failed companies!" is a badge of honour.

      Of course the execution matters. No-one is disputing that. A good idea with poor execution is unlikely to be a great success.

      And of course learning from failures is valuable. But the value is in the success you hopefully have later, not in the failed company or any failed idea behind it.

      Apple didn't rise from irrelevance to become the giant they are today just because they had a good technical team or smart marketing. They also had a series of great ideas, some of which were a bit like ideas a few other people had had but better. Just as importantly, they also wasted very little time and money on ideas that weren't great, allowing them to concentrate on the good ideas.

      Google didn't become the dominant search engine because they tweaked what Yahoo and Altavista did, they did it because they had a new idea for how to generate search results that was much better than what went before. And they didn't become filthy rich just because of all their technical wizardry, they also had the brilliant insight that they could hit people with targeted advertising right at the time those people were looking for something.

      When you approach a VC, the only thing you bring to the table is your ability to execute the plan you've proposed.

      Well, no, you bring the plan as well. And as anyone who follows sites filled with entrepreneurial buzz can see, a lot of people's plans suck right from the concept onwards, and a lot of start-up failures were, unfortunately, all too predictable to an impartial outside observer. When you approach a VC, they're trying to spot those kinds of failures, not just the team with a great idea who won't execute it effectively.

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  7. Then it's not VC by donaggie03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you want a strong experienced team with great leadership, then you aren't a venture capitalist. You're an investor.

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    1. Re:Then it's not VC by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You've created a false dichotomy where there is none. Venture capital is a form of investment, it merely tends to be higher risk and higher reward than the general case. Just because they're willing to accept higher risk does not mean that they're fools interested in squandering their money on worthless endeavors that have no hope. It's still an investment, and they still want to see a return on it.

      While "venture capitalist" wasn't the correct term, we do have a term for people who don't insist on strong leadership before investing: fool. And you know what they say about fools and their money...

  8. Because your idea sucks by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the 90's people were getting funded to build a website and a forum

    Today it's the same thing except its called social media. Seems like every other idea I read about is a Facebook/pinterest/instagram clone

    Unless you have a cool idea that solves some kind of problem like square or one of the other payment startups go back and think up of something new

  9. Startups are made of engineers by Missing.Matter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slashdot loves making fun of management, marketers, financial people, MBAs, and pretty much every business unit that is not R&D and engineering, but these people are essential to making a business successful. Startups are generally comprised entirely of engineer types who may have amazing technical know-how, but they don't know how to sell their product, they don't know how to manage money, they don't know how how to manage a company and personnel, and they don't have any business experience.

    Anyone whose ever managed a business will tell you it takes much more than a good idea to make a business successful: it's 10% idea, 90% execution. Thus, if you go to a VC with nothing but a good idea, you're falling 90% short.

    1. Re:Startups are made of engineers by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      Slashdot loves making fun of management, marketers, financial people, MBAs, and pretty much every business unit that is not R&D and engineering, but these people are essential to making a business successful.

      Good management and good marketing is essential to making a business successful, absolutely. The problem is that the average manager or marketing person in the industry is anything but good.

      You can point out that the average programmer isn't all that good, either, and you'll be right. There is an important difference, though. Where engineers run the show, it tends to be a pretty hardcore meritocracy - a lot of character flaws can be forgiven, but not technical incompetency. So the people who rise to the top are those who are actually good at doing their job. For MBAs, on the other hand, it seems that the opposite is true - the worse you are at actually doing something useful, and the more time you spend kissing asses, the more stellar your career will be.

  10. Re:So... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2
    No. VCs invest in virtual crap because no one can tell how much can be sold to suckers, and therefore the hype can claim the market is infinite. Real crap has only got a limited market, no matter how big the market, even a fool can see there is a limit.

    VCs are looking for something they can hype to the stratosphere and then sell through brokers on a percentage who need plausible deniability to protect their asses when the shit hits the fan.

    This is the nature of Ponzi land.

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  11. Really appreciated by slazzy · · Score: 2

    I really appreciated his feedback on my recent venture idea pitched to them: Step 1: Gather underpants
    Step 2: ...
    Step 3: Profit!
    Apparently I need to figure out step 2...

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  12. I'd prefer the truth by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I don't know what's wrong, I can't fix it. A vague dismissal doesn't help me improve things. And I'd posit that it doesn't help the VC either. VCs don't themselves come up with startup ideas, or they'd be doing that startup instead of looking for startups to fund. Where do they think the startups they can fund will come from? The more marginal ones take the feedback and use it to improve their plan, the more good opportunities the VCs will have to choose from.

  13. I'm applying for a position as CEO at Wal-Mart. by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 2

    My only experience is running a small town convenient store.

    I've long been under the impression that someone needs to take the Moneyball approach to venture capitalists, because what they seem to sell as a model they are looking for doesn't jive with the success stories that I'm familiar with (e.g. Wal-Mart, HP, Apple, Microsoft, etc.).

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  14. how to explain it by epine · · Score: 2

    1) If your universal lossless compression doesn't actually work, we want no part of it; if it does work, you already have enough funding in your personal checking account to succeed beyond your wildest dreams. What would you do if someone showed up asking you to invest in a 50lb bar of 28 carat gold? It's either fake, or the person bearing it is too stupid to live.

    2) Your idea is great, but you simply showed up at the wrong address, not having done your basic due diligence to determine that we're too all dumb around here to recognize brilliance even if it bites us in the ass. If you also invent the cure for stupidity, come around again and give us another shot.

  15. Re:So did Steve Jobs by slew · · Score: 4, Informative

    You may not believe this, but Steve Jobs's wasn't the first or even the second CEO of apple computer.

    In fact, the man behind the initial venture capital foray of Apple was Mike Markkula (who served as the CEO). He was an initial angel investor who was referred to Mr Jobs by a few other VCs. Mike provided the "adult" supervision to Jobs and Wozniak during the fund raising part of company's existance. Initally, Mike hired Michael Scott (from either national semiconductor or fairchild, I forgot which one) as the first CEO. It was only later after some turmoil that Mike took over the CEO position and then yielded the CEO position to Jobs (and later supported Sculley which led to Jobs' departure, and then helped lure Jobs back).

    So even Mr Job's didn't just walk into VC offices and get funded as the CEO of the company. But, Jobs was smart enough and passionate enough about doing the work that was able to put his ego enough in check to know that in order to get the money they needed to get it done. I believe that the Google story is very similar with Eric Schmidt performing the "adult" supervison...

  16. Disagree with Disagree by TiggertheMad · · Score: 2

    DISAGREE! If you need to be told what's wrong, you were already a loser before.

    While it is wise to look at your own plan and identify weaknesses, it is arrogant to assume that you can see all potential flaws and miss-steps. Also, why does there have to be something wrong for a VC to turn down an offer? Perhaps he/she has outside factors influencing the decision.

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