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Goodbye, IQ Tests: Brain Imaging Predicts Intelligence Levels

An anonymous reader writes "Research from Washington University in St. Louis has identified variations in brain scans that they believe identify portions of the brain that are responsible for intelligence (abstract). As suspected (and as explained by cartoons) brain size does play a small role; they said that brain size accounts for 6.7 percent of variance in intelligence. Recent research has placed the brain's prefrontal cortex, a region just behind the forehead, as providing for 5 percent of the variation in intelligence between people. The research from Washington University targets the left prefrontal cortex, and the strength of neural connections that it has to the rest of the brain. They think these differences account for 10 percent of differences in intelligence among people. The study is the first to connect those differences to intelligence in people."

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  1. The question is... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The question is, do the excess connections cause intelligence, or does working the brain cause the excess connections?

    1. Re:The question is... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The question is, do the excess connections cause intelligence, or does working the brain cause the excess connections?

      Seems to me the opinion of science is having ability isn't the same as keeping it sharp -- performing Crossword Puzzles, Sudoku, etc, keep your mind in training, same as physical exercise does for heart, muscle and liver.

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    2. Re:The question is... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      The question you're missing: is there a difference?

    3. Re:The question is... by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      Why couldn't it be both?

    4. Re:The question is... by bunratty · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes. If you could undergo a procedure that creates more the the neuronal connections that are correlated with intelligence, would you become more intelligent? I suppose you would, but the question really is, "How much more intelligent would it make you?" In other words, are there other brain differences that account for the increase in intelligence, such as chemical levels or the speed of neurons? Likewise, if you did exercises to increase your intelligence, would they increase the neuronal connections?

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    5. Re:The question is... by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One implies being intelligent is just luck in the bilogy dice roll. The other implies you can change your intelligence through some sort of effort.
       

    6. Re:The question is... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      The question is, do the excess connections cause intelligence, or does working the brain cause the excess connections?

      Twin studies give very strong evidence for the former. IQ scores for adopted children correlate much stronger with their biological parents than with their adoptive parents. But there could be a feedback effect as well: intelligent people are more likely to enjoy puzzles and engage in brain stimulating activities, which may cause the gap between them and dumb people to widen even further.

       

    7. Re:The question is... by Gilmoure · · Score: 3

      What if it's Firefly?

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    8. Re:The question is... by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

      predictable formula stories, you IQ drops 1 point for each year you follow such a series.

      8D

    9. Re:The question is... by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just remember that IQ doesn't include all of what people conventionally regard as "intelligence" - for example, knowledge. Even if your IQ isn't as high as another person's, you might be more motivated and work harder at obtaining knowledge, and wind up knowing more and being more productive than they are. (Of course in a large population people with higher IQ will have more knowledge on average since it is easier for them to attain, but averages are not deterministic for individuals - through effort you may become an outlier within your cohort).

    10. Re:The question is... by fredprado · · Score: 2

      The problem is that what people conventionally regard as "intelligence" is not intelligence at all. Intelligence is related to potential, not use. Warping the meaning of a word to give value by association to other less desirable traits undermine the objective value of the word and makes it pointless in the long run.

    11. Re:The question is... by N0Man74 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Lying on a sofa eating junk food and watching entertainment on the boob tube is not one of the self-improvement procedures.

      I think you are confusing IQ education. A person can be highly intelligent, but yet still ignorant, just like there are many very accomplished and skilled people with rather average IQ. Many people think an IQ test is flawed when it does have a heavy bias regarding education or cultural background.

    12. Re:The question is... by SolitaryMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you have higher intelligence you get more experience points for completing the same quest or killing the same amount of creatures.

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    13. Re:The question is... by EllisDees · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, I believe the opposite is true.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

      "There are some family effects on the IQ of children, accounting for up to a quarter of the variance. However, adoption studies show that by adulthood adoptive siblings aren't more similar in IQ than strangers, while adult full siblings show an IQ correlation of 0.6. Conventional twin studies reinforce this pattern: monozygotic (identical) twins raised separately are highly similar in IQ (0.86), more so than dizygotic (fraternal) twins raised together (0.6) and much more than adoptive siblings (~0.0)."

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    14. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That applies to all types of intelligence testing. You cannot assess human intelligence without adjusting for cultural background. IQ tests for what they're supposed to do are just fine. They just have been so abused and misused in the past that they've lost credibility.

      The approach they're trying here is ultimately doomed to fail as it's just a newer version of phrenology, the real super stars like Einstein had abnormalities involved which this sort of approach wouldn't even know how to deal with. IQ tests at least just look at performance without bothering to ask how. Which is good if you've got an intelligence test and bad if you're interested in why.

      IQ tests do have issues such as their laser focus on very specific functions and inability to compare people from different cultures, but most of the hate is just jealousy.

    15. Re:The question is... by timeOday · · Score: 2

      Any testing of that sort shouldn't even be permitted until kids are at least 10 as that's about the time when those things start to settle a bit and there's some reliability

      I will simply quote what has been written elsewhere:

      [T]he correlation between [an IQ] score obtained at 5 and the eventual adult score is probably no more than .5 or so. However, the main limitation seems to be unreliability of any single administration of the test to a child that young. Scores averaged over several administrations are a very good predictor already at a fairly young age. The average of three scores obtained at age 5, 6 and 7 correlates about .85 with adult score. This suggests that while it is difficult to measure a child's IQ in any single sitting, the IQ itself is relatively fixed already by age 7 or so.

      While not consistent with your personal family experience, this does highlight the risk of using a single test administration on a young child. (Although a correlation of 0.5 is still not weak).

    16. Re:The question is... by gagol · · Score: 2

      Have you tried watching some foreign shows? You could be pleasently surprised.

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  2. You may have high IQ ... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But what about your Wisdom?

    Seems a better measure than how fast you can perform math, patern recognition, etc.

    Thanks to AD&D I learned about the importance of balance Int with Wis

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    1. Re:You may have high IQ ... by Feyshtey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wisdom is generally considered the collective experiences of a person, and how those experiences influence a person's approach to later decisions.

      Wisdom would be gained by discovering the effect of fire by putting your finger in it. Intelligence would be testing the effect of fire on something less critical than your finger in order to discover its nature.

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    2. Re:You may have high IQ ... by ddxexex · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I assume you haven't heard the adage that goes "A fool learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the fool's mistake"

    3. Re:You may have high IQ ... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

      I assume you haven't heard the adage that goes "A fool learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the fool's mistake"

      In other words, when there are no fools around the wise man doesn't learn anything at all. :-)

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    4. Re:You may have high IQ ... by bitt3n · · Score: 2

      Wisdom would be gained by discovering the effect of fire by putting your finger in it. Intelligence would be testing the effect of fire on something less critical than your finger in order to discover its nature.

      so, like, someone else's finger?

    5. Re:You may have high IQ ... by avandesande · · Score: 2

      most of the fools I know don't learn from their mistakes

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    6. Re:You may have high IQ ... by bjdevil66 · · Score: 2

      Intelligence is knowing that someone posted something incorrect in an internet forum.

      Wisdom is knowing whether or not to post the reply.

    7. Re:You may have high IQ ... by SolitaryMan · · Score: 2

      I like better the version of it that goes like this: "Wise man leans from mistakes of others. Intelligent man learns from his own mistakes. Fool never learns"

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  3. Already been done by Lev13than · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unless the MRI can show the brain as a series of miniature illustrations, these guys are about 121 years late to the game. But maybe that's just my approbativeness showing...

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  4. Re:Intelligence is... by shadowrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    yeah, but now we could quantify how much intelligence a person is wasting.

  5. Hello Phrenology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ha, and you thought it was just psuedo science.

  6. which part of the brain are responsible for by emilper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... ambition, perseverance, drive and patience ?

  7. What about the other 78.3%? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like a pretty big gap... they're saying they've identified 3 factors that together make up (if they can be believed) about 21.7% of the "variation in intelligence". So where's the other 78.3%?

    I'm not criticizing their results. Maybe they are correct. But it still isn't saying a hell of a lot.

    1. Re:What about the other 78.3%? by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well if that is true they are already more accurate than IQ tests.

    2. Re:What about the other 78.3%? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Genes, nutrition, education, prenatal care, and hormones are all well-known contributing factors.

  8. I prefer my method by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

    I still prefer my method of estimating other people's IQ by correcting their spelling errors.

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    1. Re:I prefer my method by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

      you're.

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    2. Re:I prefer my method by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Thou'rt, I mean. art, not are. DAMMIT

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  9. I know that guy. by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've heard of Todd Braver before. He has done some interesting work on how digital devices are "rotting" our brains.
    Not sure I agree with this detour into creepy eugenics territory though.

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    1. Re:I know that guy. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I've heard of Todd Braver before. He has done some interesting work on how digital devices are "rotting" our brains.

      Not sure I agree with this detour into creepy eugenics territory though.

      Anybody who isn't actively pretending that everything we've observed in several thousand years of animal selective breeding(along with more recent statistical and genetic work on heritability of various things) somehow magically doesn't have implications is arguably already there...

      It only really gets 'creepy' when you start planning 'eugenic unions of superior types' or fire up the ovens.

  10. Genii still susceptible to meme implantation by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    When I was 10, longer ago than most of you have been alive, my mother regaled me with a tale that Einstein's brain had 2x the number of convolutions.

      This was before they figured out that had something to do with it. Whatever happened to that?

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  11. Re:Intelligence is... by leonardluen · · Score: 2

    I think that's called experience.

    yeah, you just have to hit "C" to bring up your character sheet and then you can see your experience score and level.

  12. Oblig by pr0t0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is knowing not to put it in fruit salad.

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  13. The answer is... by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The answer to your question is: it depends.

    "Intelligence" has two separate and distinct meanings in colloquial English. It can mean the ease and speed of comprehension, or it can mean the total amount of knowledge a person has.

    Working the brain will cause it to make more connections, and some of these connections translate in an abstract way to other topics. Thus, a Chemistry major might be able to pick up cooking more easily, or a farmer's son might make a better cartographer.

    In some sense, the brain learns "patterns", and there are only so many patterns in the world. For example: once you get a deep understanting of exponential functions, you start to see them in the real world. Compound interest is an exponential function, for example.

    Hence, gaining more connections can translate into an increase in faster understanding and comprehension of other things - they are "similar" to other things you've seen.

    The other side of the question has to do with learning original patterns. This is based on fundamental processes in the brain and is all balled up with information and complexity theory, as well as motivation and perceived value.

    There are at least 2 genes known to confer a general increase in intelligence, so it seems likely that the fundamental processes are more or less efficient depending on the genetic makeup.

    There is also abundant evidence that the environment plays an overwhelming role in the brain's development at the current time, and in the current culture. The 2 genes mentioned are predictors of success and intelligence, but there are better predictors based on parental choices (how the child was raised) and random luck (being in the right place at the right time).

    So even if you don't happen to have those 2 genes, you can become highly intelligent by working harder.

    So back to your question: working the brain causes more connections, and by one mechanism these connections will be perceived as an increase in intelligence. Without exposure to information or variation in environment, there will be fewer connections.

    OTOH, there is a genetic component which will cause more connections and a higher intelligence from the same data, all else being equal.

    1. Re:The answer is... by fredprado · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The amount of knowledge a person has is called ... err... 'knowledge'. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Using the word to define knowledge levels is just a misuse of the word.

    2. Re:The answer is... by fredprado · · Score: 2

      No it is not. Intelligence is measured by how well people understand. Obviously better ability to understand makes it easier to absorb knowledge and you can even use your analogy with derivatives (as well as any analogy works), assuming you are trying to absorb knowledge as fast as you can, to point the relation it has with knowledge.

  14. Intelligence and Wisdom are Somewhat Orthogonal by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I went to university, I thought I might find people mostly with similar opinions (politics etc) to myself, being of the same IQ group. Up until then I had always thought most people around me had plainly idiotic opinions and I had put it down to their being a bit low on brainpower. In fact I found the others at uni (who we can assume were all of significantly higher IQ than average) had the same range of idiotic opinions (IMHO) as people generally.

    Surveys have shown that the distribution of political, ethical and religious opinions tends to be the same whatever the IQ group. I find this strange.

    Take the infamous Mrs Thatcher. I can recognise that she was a very intelligent woman but at the same time stupid in many things. Like she thought that by privatising industries and selling the shares to the public (cheap), the British people would become shareholders in large numbers - a "shareholding democracy" - and we would all then clamour for more efficiency in those industries as shareholders. What happened is that we bought those shares and then promptly sold them again (mostly to foreign enterprises as it turned out - a large part of UK rail freight is now owned by the *nationalised* German Railways!). The point is that most people with any sense could have told her that would happen - why could someone so intelligent not see it herself? Just one example of my point.

    1. Re:Intelligence and Wisdom are Somewhat Orthogonal by Xiver · · Score: 2

      You'll see it over and over again. People believe what they want to believe and what they want to believe is often what is in their best interest to believe. Don't get me wrong, people do not set out to close their minds to opposing points of view, but it usually takes an overabundance of evidence by a trusted party to convince anyone to change their minds, no matter how intelligent they are. As a corollary; the longer someone holds a particular view the more difficult it is for that person to change that view.

      Of course I could be wrong, but you'll have to prove it to me.

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  15. Nobody knows what they are measuring by nut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People have been trying to measure intelligence for well over a hundred years now, but I have yet to see anybody precisely and fully define exactly what it is they are measuring.

    And don't say IQ - the only thing IQ tests measure is the ability to do IQ tests. Read up on their history. There is nothing scientific about their origin.

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    1. Re:Nobody knows what they are measuring by WrongMonkey · · Score: 2

      IQ is interesting. Nobody, especially researchers, thinks that it directly measures intelligence. But it does correlate with many outcomes that might be expected to be associated with intelligence: level of educational attainment, income, religious beliefs, etc. So you're right, nobody knows what they are measuring, but it's something that related to intelligence. For scientific purposes having an indirect, but quantifiable, metric is better than no metric at all.