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IT At the LHC — Managing a Petabyte of Data Per Second

schliz writes "iTnews in Australia has published an interview with CERN's deputy head of IT, David Foster, who explains what last month's discovery of a 'particle consistent with the Higgs Boson' means for the organization's IT department, why it needs a second 'Tier Zero' data center, and how it is using grid computing and the cloud. Quoting: 'If you were to digitize all the information from a collision in a detector, it’s about a petabyte a second or a million gigabytes per second. There is a lot of filtering of the data that occurs within the 25 nanoseconds between each bunch crossing (of protons). Each experiment operates their own trigger farm – each consisting of several thousand machines – that conduct real-time electronics within the LHC. These trigger farms decide, for example, was this set of collisions interesting? Do I keep this data or not? The non-interesting event data is discarded, the interesting events go through a second filter or trigger farm of a few thousand more computers, also on-site at the experiment. [These computers] have a bit more time to do some initial reconstruction – looking at the data to decide if it’s interesting. Out of all of this comes a data stream of some few hundred megabytes to 1Gb per second that actually gets recorded in the CERN data center, the facility we call "Tier Zero."'"

248 comments

  1. Call the Interns! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need backup on floppy disk.

    1. Re:Call the Interns! by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      You don't what them to be idle, now do you? Use punch cards instead. Trust me.

      -BOFH

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      Life is not for the lazy.
  2. Large Organization Has 2 Data Centers by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 1, Funny

    They may also be using something called load balancing, but we're still waiting for sources to confirm.

    1. Re:Large Organization Has 2 Data Centers by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      Good point. Non-story. I can't see anything of interest to nerds here.

    2. Re:Large Organization Has 2 Data Centers by HappyPsycho · · Score: 2

      'Score: 3, Funny' - This is hilarious, from TFA:

      'The Tier Zero facility is the central hub of the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid, which also connects to some dozen ‘Tier One’ data centres for near-real time storage and analysis of data and over 150 ‘Tier Two’ data centres for batch analysis of experiment data.'

  3. Keeping us humble... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My wife, a staff physicist at FermiLab in their computing division, manages to keep me humble when I talk about the "big data" work I'm doing in my commercial engineering position. I think having to deal with a billion or so data points per day is big... Not so much in her universe!

    1. Re:Keeping us humble... by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

      And we jokingly call our data center the "Large Software Collider". Not as funny when the real thing is even bigger!

      --
      John
    2. Re:Keeping us humble... by somersault · · Score: 2

      Of course hadrons are bigger than softwares, not to mention a lot more fun in collisions.

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      which is totally what she said
    3. Re:Keeping us humble... by ethanms · · Score: 2

      My wife, a staff physicist at FermiLab in their computing division

      Much like the HB itself, up until recently I assumed these were only theoretical...

  4. How fast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But how fast does it run Quake II ?

  5. You mean... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 0

    Scientists have discovered a way to get adequate performance out of Windows?

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    1. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    2. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it. That problem is hard - and fortunately there is other software. The kind that works.

    3. Re:You mean... by qu33ksilver · · Score: 1

      Aah I see they use VMWare to manage the virtual machines. .. I guess Citrix is still lagging behind in the server virtualization field.

      I am from Citrix ... if you know what I mean . :P

    4. Re:You mean... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      VMWare is pretty widely recognized as the king of virtualization-- at least so long as you arent concerned with money. Its overhead is far far smaller than the others especially when dealing with huge numbers of connections, and it simply has more features than its competitors.

      Of course, that assumes you're willing to pony up for vRAM entitlements and Enterprise Plus.

    5. Re:You mean... by cduffy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      VMWare is pretty widely recognized as the king of virtualization-- at least so long as you arent concerned with money. Its overhead is far far smaller than the others especially when dealing with huge numbers of connections, and it simply has more features than its competitors.

      Which doesn't mean those features are implemented well.

      Not so long ago, I built an automated QA platform on top of Qumranet's KVM. Partway through the project, my employer was bought by Dell, a VMware licensee. As such, we ended up putting software through automated testing on VMware, manual testing on Xen (legacy environment, pre-acquisition), and deployment to a mix of real hardware and VMware.

      In terms of accurate hardware implementation, KVM kicked the crap out of what VMware (ESX) shipped with at the time. We had software break because VMware didn't implement some very common SCSI mode pages (which the real hardware and QEMU both did), we had software break because of funkiness in their PXE implementation, and we otherwise just plain had software *break*. I sometimes hit a bug in the QEMU layer KVM uses for hardware emulation, but when those happened, I could fix it myself half the time, and get good support from the dev team and mailing list otherwise. With VMware, I just had to wait and hope that they'd eventually get around to it in some future release.

      "King of virtualization"? Bah.

    6. Re:You mean... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      King of virtualization when it comes to things like "supports live migration of a VM's execution state and/or permenant storage", or "stability and speed of the networking layer".

      I cant speak to KVM as my experience is limited to VMware, and some HyperV and XenServer testing. But just doing a check from RHEV's own fact sheet, there are a number of things that are missing that are quite useful:
      *Storage live migration
      *Hot add RAM, CPU
      *Hot add NICs, disk (note that RHEV has it wrong-- this does not require anything more than the free hypervisor, NOT enterprise plus as they claim)
      *Live VM Snapshots (not really clear how RHEV doesnt have this, even Virtualbox has this)

      Those are all pretty core features-- to my mind, ESPECIALLY the disk and NIC hot add. There are a lot of times that it is an absolute blessing to be able to roll out a new VLAN on the network and to just hot-add a NIC to the firewall VM on that VLAN, and your network suffers no outage. With disk, its awfully nice to be able to add a USB disk to the VM without having to reboot the entire thing (again, how does HyperV and RHEV not have this?).

    7. Re:You mean... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      The King Joffrey of virtualization, perhaps.

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      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    8. Re:You mean... by StuartHankins · · Score: 1
      VMWare is nice, let's get that out of the way. We have a mix of ESXi and RHEV and are deciding which to use for everything (assuming moving up to paid VSphere is the VMWare option). The fact that RHEV was cheaper, much much better looking, quicker to setup, and easier to use than KVM under RHEL made the decision to migrate from RHEL-based KVM to RHEV fairly easy.

      RHEV is getting there, still lacking some features and still rough around the edges. For instance:
      • Right now you can't have a VM with one disk on one storage group and another disk on a different storage group (we use this for bulk SAN storage vs fast SAN storage). KVM on RHEL does that just fine; just mount the SAN presentation and place the appropriate disk on the appropriate mount and you're good to go.
      • There are too many things which require the command line to either set up or clean up.
      • ISOs cannot be uploaded into folders and that's an issue with us since we have a lot of ISOs. You also have to use a command-line tool to upload them rather than a nice GUI tool like VMWare has. And there's no way to remove items without manually diving into the filesystem to remove ISOs.
      • They've already fixed the "requires IE" part of the browser for most tasks, however I couldn't get console view to work under Firefox for either SPICE or VLC VMs without having a bootable, running VM running those services... and the only time I need console view is when things are BROKEN...
      • Reliance on NFS as "the" VM import / export option is ugly.
      • VMs created in KVM using virtio drivers won't use those virtio drivers in RHEV unless they're on a very short list managed by Red Hat. Only RHEL and Windows are there -- no Fedora for instance, sorry! That stinks.

      Snapshots are a sore point but I've heard the next version out around this December will fix it and give us a truly live backup option. Most of the other issues you mentioned (hot-add of resources) will hopefully be part of the new version. Dunno yet if that means "total fix" but I've got my fingers crossed. Hey, it's better than KVM under RHEL...

    9. Re:You mean... by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Those are all pretty core features-- to my mind, ESPECIALLY the disk and NIC hot add. There are a lot of times that it is an absolute blessing to be able to roll out a new VLAN on the network and to just hot-add a NIC to the firewall VM on that VLAN, and your network suffers no outage. With disk, its awfully nice to be able to add a USB disk to the VM without having to reboot the entire thing (again, how does HyperV and RHEV not have this?).

      I can't speak to RHEV -- I ran on bare KVM. RHEV eliminated any feature from KVM that Red Hat didn't consider rock-solid enterprise-ready, effectively paring it down to the featureset they were willing to thoroughly test on all supported hardware.

      All four of the items you listed were present and usable in upstream KVM back when I was working with it years ago, except for storage migration (which had just been implemented and was still at a place where I wanted to see other folks using it before I wanted to trust it myself... plus, already had shared storage anyhow and didn't need it).

    10. Re:You mean... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      ESX's cost is a bit of a PITA-- theres essentials plus, but of course that lacks DRS; and theres the free version which truly is nice for a single-server solution... but there are a lot of good contenders out there for less.

      Im not gonna say that the others are garbage; I took a peek at Xen and really like that they dont gouge you to death for basic things like "can manage several servers at once". Im just saying that from my experience, as well as from listening to others in the recent ArsTechnica discussion on virtualization, it really sounds like VMware is still on top-- as long as you can pay.

      Disclaimer: I just got my VCP and regularly do a lot of work with ESXi.

    11. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, no. IBM is the king of virtualization (which they invented 50 years ago).

    12. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first half of this might actually be an appropriate comment. Maybe you can't see the difference between that and the posts below that got modded down, but others do. If you kept your posts that short and on topic, no one would care who you were. AC trolls wouldn't have a chance of stalking you, as no one would be able to tell it was you. The difference between that first paragraph and the posts below is night and day.

    13. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange you continue to avoid such a simple question here though http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769 .

    14. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ac troll u blew it on transactions vs rows, power redudancy, + puttin words in apk's mouth he never stated and stalking apk by ac posts, then downmodding him by an ac post by logging out to preserve your cookie state for your registered account, and then trolling by ac. Yes, we know how it's done, from an open source famous person along with HBGary and the Chinese Water Army as well as pr firms

      "It just takes one Ubuntu sympathizer or PR flack to minus-moderate any comment. Unfortunately, once PR agencies and so on started paying people to moderate online communities, and to have hundreds of accounts each, things changed." - by Bruce Perens (3872) on Friday July 30, @03:55PM (#33089192) Homepage Journal

      From http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33089192

  6. GRID ack by PiMuNu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I tried using the GRID - it's deeply embedded in acronyms and crud, practically impossible to use without a PhD. For crying out loud, it's just a batch farm!

    1. Re:GRID ack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its much better than what it used to be 5 years ago

  7. pretty described on the LHC-CMS websites by peter303 · · Score: 2

    I was looking up how complicated the detectors were, and they were. They have 75M directional sensors and 9K energy detectors (calorimeters), each which are analyzed 40M times a second for "interesting" events. One out of a billion maybe recorded for subsequent deep analysis.

  8. I don't really give a s h i t by DerUberTroll · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    News that matters? The human race is not even able to handle itself and it wants to play with atoms.

  9. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by Fusselwurm · · Score: 2

    What do you want to imply?

    That, somehow, he who does not know how to debug the kernel should not play with bit operations?

    Something like that?

      Or, that we should stop researching the structure of the universe, and instead focus on what we usually do, which is making war, screwing other people and post photos of our dicks on teh internet?

  10. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why hold back the smarter ones because of a bunch of morons who can't handle themselves?

  11. And Still. by CimmerianX · · Score: 4, Funny

    The head researcher will STILL come to IT and ask them to please help him sync his outlook contacts to his phone.

    1. Re:And Still. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a point to this. Given only so many waking nanoseconds you have to pick your battles. It may well be the cheapest solution to "outsource" menial tasks like that to buy time for improving the trigger efficiency. Been there, done that.

  12. grep by atisss · · Score: 2

    So they just used grep

  13. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Living up to your name, I see.

  14. Which amounts to... by Travelsonic · · Score: 2

    Roughly, assuming you can round it off to 53 weeks/year, if you do 1Petabyte/ear, and transferred that much constantly, that would be roughly 2887200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 BITS [individual 1s or 0s] per year

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    1. Re:Which amounts to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roughly, assuming you can round it off to 53 weeks/year, if you do 1Petabyte/ear, and transferred that much constantly, that would be roughly 2887200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 BITS [individual 1s or 0s] per year

      But I don't have that sort of time to wait! I want ALL the pr0ns NOW!

    2. Re:Which amounts to... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Is that as much as billions and billions?

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    3. Re:Which amounts to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine that it's double that if it would be stereo.

    4. Re:Which amounts to... by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Quite a bit larger actually
      1 billion = 1e9
      Travelsonics number is ~3e51 which would be 3e6*(1e9)^5
      or millions of billions of billions of billions of billions of billions
      Not quite sure how well Sagan could pull that line off though

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  15. Power limitations by onyxruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    Did a bunch of work with some stock exchanges a few years back. It was an interesting environment and I see that CERN had the same problems that the stock exchanges had. They even had the where the number one budgetary item wasn't cost but electric load.

    You only had so much power physically available in the data centers next to the exchanges and server rooms inside them. Monetary cost was never an issue, but electric load was everything. It seems funny considering their load is strictly a science based load and not monetary, but their requirements and distribution remind me greatly of the exchanges.

    1. Re:Power limitations by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      They even had the where the number one budgetary item wasn't cost but electric load.

      Probably true wherever you go, but the NYSE is in the middle of a dense urban area stretching for a hundred miles in every direction. Electricity, along with everything else, is painfully expensive there. I believe that's why so many data centers are built in relatively remote areas. Obviously, the NYSE has a physical location requirement... :\

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    2. Re:Power limitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't most of actual server cages for HFT are in New Jersey?

    3. Re:Power limitations by Mattsson · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, at CERN the power used by their computing farm is probably a small trickle compared to what is being pumped into the components of the ring and its detectors.

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      /.Mattsson - My native language is not English, so please don't whine over linguistic errors. (That's lame anyway...)
  16. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    Well, that one should be called a petadick.

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    Hop!
  17. They need some serious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... lossless data compression algorithms.

    > If you were to digitize all the information from a collision in a detector, it’s about a petabyte a second or a million gigabytes per second.

    1. Re:They need some serious... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      That takes time. Time vs Space tradeoff.

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    2. Re:They need some serious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compressed sensing could be used if the signal would be sparse.

  18. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brevity is the soul of wit...

  19. Maybe they could offload some of the processing to computing platforms running screensavers the way the SETI project once did and how BitCoin does now.

  20. Putting words in my mouth I never stated? Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Just because a handful of large organizations happen to run a MS configuration successfully doesn't mean that it's the best, or even a desirable configuration." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @11:55AM (#40868921)

    PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER STATED AGAIN? Look, I know based on the "transactions vs. rows" blunder of yours above, you don't read well... however, this "troll tactic" is a bigger "low" for you now.

    Plus, 367++ companies (and educational institutions) using Windows is pretty good (though not ALL are high tpm or big data (purely relative term)).

    QUESTION: (Answer it YES or NO) Did I even ONCE say "MS IS ALWAY BEST" as to what you're insinuating here?

    (Answer that... & I want a quote of my words on that note, and don't even *try* impersonate me, another ac stalker troll tactic, because I want the post to predate this one).

    ---

    This "took the cake" from you:

    "That's a lot of ranting, APK" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @11:55AM (#40868921)

    WELL, @ least I can read & know it wasn't 7 million ROWS vs. what I put down in TRANSACTIONS, lol ( please - learn to READ!)

    Especially again considering that even 7 million rows on 1 table will be added onto via JOINS (multiples make it even worse, especially "nested ones", to be avoided if possible) with key fields in other tables/devices in the software end of things @ the DB & programmatic level for processing (stuff you have no clue in apparently, since you avoided a question I asked of you on that account).

    ---

    1st: You "blew it" here badly too -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40868839 and you omitted power redundancy in YOUR rant, and see subject-line above, lol!

    Secondly?

    "That's a lot of ranting, APK," - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @11:55AM (#40868921)

    Take a look @ YOUR posts, for Pete's sake, lol!

    (Your "rant" made NO point, because all of what you stated in the high tpm examples I cited with 99.999% uptime using "all of the above" in what you noted, and that you omitted in power redundancy too, as well as specifics on programmatic design)

    Which, as I said, you apparently have NO DIRECT EXPERIENCE IN apparently, with "BIG DATA" & i have... for decades now in fact (with one design type/paradigm or another over decades in information systems...).

    ---

    "but even if satisfactory scalability, redundancy, uptime, and IOPS can be achieved with a Windows/MS-SQL/Hyper-V setup, it still costs a boatload of cash more than the alternative, in terms of hardware, software, and TCO, given equivalent administrative personnel." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @11:55AM (#40868921)

    That's debateable since I've seen case studies that show the cost of maintaining Linux for example can "skyrocket" above the costs for MS' stuff...

    ---

    Again, too easy... just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'", & it always is, vs. the ac stalk/harass troll that follows nearly every post I make on /., & when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note!

    (Thanks for making ME, look good, as you always do, and again, yourself? "Not so Good", lol!)

    * Please... you fail, and stalk me by AC posts too? Come on!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hey, listen - it's NOT MY FAULT you blew it here, & everytime you "stalk/harass/troll" me here on /., you do it to yourself, everytime, lol...

    ... apk

  21. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    News that matters? The human race is not even able to handle itself and it wants to play with atoms.

    I assume you're using a computer to post that? Maybe own a cellphone....?

    That makes you a hypocrite of the worst kind. Sorry, but there it is in black and white.

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  22. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as APK predicted, an unjust down mod from an ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

    when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197

  23. Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ac troll u blew it on transactions vs rows, power redudancy, + puttin words in apk's mouth he never stated and stalking apk by ac posts, then downmodding him by an ac post by logging out to preserve your cookie state for your registered account, and then trolling by ac. Yes, we know how it's done, from an open source famous person along with HBGary and the Chinese Water Army as well as pr firms

    "It just takes one Ubuntu sympathizer or PR flack to minus-moderate any comment. Unfortunately, once PR agencies and so on started paying people to moderate online communities, and to have hundreds of accounts each, things changed." - by Bruce Perens (3872) on Friday July 30, @03:55PM (#33089192) Homepage Journal

    From http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33089192

    You're not pulling the wool over our eyes with your trolling and bad down moderating because you failed so many times here already. See subject. You need to and "reading is fundamental" too, so learn to read next time, and for once, you might make a point. We've all seen you stalk apk by ac posts and blow it against him every time you do that. Don't you get tired of losing so much?

    1. Re:Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe multiple people find you have atrocious communication skills, even if they completely agree with the facts and points you try to use.

    2. Re:Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will be brief: your noble son is mad:

      Mad call I it; for, to define true madness,

      What is't but to be nothing else but mad?

    3. Re:Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. You'd better be brief since eating too many of your words that make the shit sandwiches your ending up eating be very unhealthy, lol!

    4. Re:Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like APK can't understand Hamlet.

    5. Re:Failing is failing n' u failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He understands, as we do, that you must eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

  24. Just as apk predicted (again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as APK predicted an unjust down mod from an ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

    when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197

  25. Just as apk predicted (yet again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as APK predicted an unjust down mod from ac troll on his post that put out facts and the ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

    when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197

  26. Downmodding others now ac troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As APK predicted, an unjust down mod from ac troll but this time on someone else pointing out the ac trolls' mistakes and trolling misdoings that states facts after ac troll blundered on transactions versus rows as well as omitting power redudancy with trying to put words in apk's mouth he never said:

    when I catch him in a mistake? He'll unjustly downmod my posts when he fails... call it a prediction here too on that note! from http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869197

  27. Multiple people alright: Sock puppets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a fact from "one of your own" in regard to my subject:

    "It just takes one Ubuntu sympathizer or PR flack to minus-moderate any comment. Unfortunately, once PR agencies and so on started paying people to moderate online communities, and to have hundreds of accounts each, things changed." - by Bruce Perens (3872) on Friday July 30, @03:55PM (#33089192) Homepage Journal

    From http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33089192

    "Or maybe multiple people find you have atrocious communication skills, even if they completely agree with the facts and points you try to use." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @01:00PM (#40869855)

    I use facts, and the FACT you & yours "blow it" vs. myself and those facts is your OWN fault, not mine!

    NOW, lol, you're using the "std. failed troll modus operandi" of grammar/writing interpretation, which makes me laugh because YOU PROVED YOU CAN'T READ (transactinos vs. rows, anyone? LMAO!)

    So, you're trying to pass it off as "poor communication skills" on my end, lol, see above!

    That is pretty bad, when you:

    ---

    1.) Tried putting words in my mouth I never stated - that I said "MS IS BEST/ONLY WAY" etc./et al

    2.) YOU blew it on rows vs. transactions

    3.) Redundancy in power supplies

    4.) The fact MS has clustering OS versions & DB engines that handle it also

    5.) ... but perhaps most of all, never having DONE such work & I have? ... & more? Please...

    ---

    The bogus downmods of my posts + stalking me by ac posts alone show "what you're made of/your 'modus operandi'"!

    LOL... talk about obvious.

    You're full of it, & you FAIILED... no questions asked.

    * Again, Thanks for making ME, look good...

    (I see you ran outta mod points too, lol.... no more downmods of my replies, eh? Especially ones that can't disprove points-of-fact I used!)

    Better start using your multiple sockpuppet alternate registered 'luser' accounts now to downmod this too, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style", you just KNOW I've just GOTTA SAY IT:

    This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'", & it always is, because your blunders make it so for me...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Multiple people alright: Sock puppets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You act like "putting words in my mouth" is bad thing, yet you spend a lot of time telling me I said something that was said by someone else.

  28. CERN network architecture by Joshua+Fan · · Score: 2

    Those with further interest in the article may find this informative:

    http://www.geant2.net/upload/pdf/LHC_networking_v1-9_NC.pdf

    Apparently, CERN uses BGP between T0 and T1, and uses only ACLs, no firewalls, for security.

    1. Re:CERN network architecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You eat your own words too, you should already know what they taste like.

  29. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40870249

    * One of your own even says how it's done, & it's NO BIG TRICK to do the following here on /. to cheat the moderation system (I caught tomhudson = Barbara, not Barbie admitting to it (they're the same person)):

    ---

    1.) Downmoderate using one of many sockpuppet alternate registered 'luser' accounts with mod points collected up (easily done by "pandering" to group think & modding one's Self (or should I say, SELVES, lol) up.

    2.) Logout to preserve the cookie state & karma of said multiple sockpuppet accounts

    3.) Troll, harass, & stalk (usually off topic with ad hominem attacks that are illogical in & of themselves) by ac posts

    ---

    * The link above has "one of your own" illustrating how & why it's done... nuff said, & I didn't even do the saying of it!

    APK

    P.S.=> You fail, and you must LOVE punishment... especially self-inflicted ones, having to go off topic & worse afterwards (like unjust downmods) - hey, you only did it to yourself...

    ... apk

    1. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a policy, I don't mod down, and even modded up one of your posts that was on topic for this story.

      "you must LOVE punishment." Seems backwards to me, considering the ratio of effort in posts reminds me of asymmetric denial of service attacks.

    2. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You expect any of us reading to believe you ac? Ya, right.

    3. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, I think all first person ACs should be distrusted.

    4. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facts are facts no matter who posts 'em & these are fact http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 that the ac troll could disprove, and he made tons of errors on transactions vs rows, power redudancy, + puttin words in apk's mouth he never stated and stalking apk by ac posts, then downmodding him by an ac post by logging out to preserve your cookie state for your registered account, and then trolling by ac as well as going off topic (and you're just he again trying to "forums slide" and hide said facts of his total self-defeat).

    5. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its modus operandi, idiot. And this post wasn't made by me, double fail yet again.

    6. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha you triple failed here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876377 ,l being off topic and avoiding a question here as you have http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769 'Gee, why's that?' as to you avoiding that one (rotflmao). Eating your words for lunch now I take it? Hahahhaha.

    7. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LHC stands for Large Hadron Collider. That is a fact, and you can't disprove it.

    8. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My words taste salient, with an after taste of raisins and sunchokes.

    9. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2.) Logout to preserve the cookie state & karma of said multiple sockpuppet accounts

      Pro-tip: You don't actually have to log out to do this.

    10. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    11. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. Shit != salient. Shit = Shit. Get your equations right or you'll keep eating those shit sandwiches (lmao) you keep making with your mistakes.

    12. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact: APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    13. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Counter Fact: AC made APK eat his words here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40883639

    14. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been caught impersonating him twice here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775 and here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40884103 , that's just another one so that's no fact.

  30. And it's on Brocade's 100G Ethernet =) by Desmoden · · Score: 1
  31. FTFS: few hundred megabytes to 1Gb per second by fnj · · Score: 0

    Er, 1 Gb is 100 megabytes. b is bit, B is byte. So which is meant, one gigabit or one gigabyte? I'm guessing the latter, from simple consistency. If we're going to use abbreviations, we should at least get them right.

  32. Not really that huge by fa2k · · Score: 1

    The summary says it's 100 MByte to 1 Gbit, which is confusing in itself. I think "a few hundred megabytes" is correct. It's impressive to run at that rate continuously with high reliability, but it's nothing compared to Youtube and probably Facebook. If you say a "tweet" takes up 200 bytes including overhead, that's 500 000 tweets per second at 100 MB/s, so maybe even Twitter has to deal with that rate. The requirement for redundancy is probably stricter for the LHC, they have at least triply redundant storage for the original data. The data processing is maybe more demanding for LHC than for big internet companies, as all data are essentially equal, so to do an analysis, all data files have to be accessed (there is more filtering after the trigger, and intermediate files are stored containing reconstructed information).

    1. Re:Not really that huge by fa2k · · Score: 1

      maybe even Twitter has to deal with that rate.

      Never mind, guys, still a few orders of magnitude lower (340 M messages/day according to WP)

  33. Oh, hello by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's you again.

    Listen: Nobody actually reads your incomprehensible bullshit comments. Nobody. Learn to write properly and (most of all) coherently and that might change.

  34. Have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line & please do. We're still wiping the spittle off our faces from your "FoaMiNg-At-ThE-MouTh" ranting reply! Have some courtesy, & please - DO consider decaf, ok? Thank-You! Being on topic would be nice of you also but, we'll settle for you being banned from the coffee pot first, lol!

  35. Unfortunately by warrax_666 · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately that isn't saying much.

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    HAND.
  36. You're a little off there by Immerman · · Score: 1

    Actually you're off by 26 orders of magnitude

    1PB/s = 8e15 bits/s
    8e15 bits/s *(3600s/h) *(24h/day)*(~365.25 days/year) ~= 2.5e23 bits/year
    or 252,460,800,000,000,000,000,000 if you prefer counting zeros

    even in stereo it'd only be 5e23.

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    --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
    1. Re:You're a little off there by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      My keyboard is being weird, probably omitted a few 0s when working with the calculations. Either way, it is still a mind boggling number of 1s and 0s. Wonder how long, in continual transfer, one would theoretically have to go to hit transfer of over a googolplex bits of information.

      --
      If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
    2. Re:You're a little off there by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Actually the other way around, you've got over twice as many zeros as you should have. You're right though, a mind boggling number regardless. Nowhere near a googolplex (10^googol) though, nor even a googol (10^100) bits. Using my number (~2.5e26) you need ~4e73 years to transfer just one googol bits, or 40 trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years, and the entire universe is currently only estimated to be ~15 billion years old right now. The universe will probably be so close to absolute heat death by then that it will have have long since lost the ability to support any meaningful form of information processing long before you finished.

      Your question suggests you're intrigued by huge numbers but aren't familiar with scientific notation, the preferred form of dealing with them since people, or even computers, are typically not very good at it. (if I'm wrong then I apologize, ignore the rest of my post. Or better yet critique my explanation, I teach math from time to time) It actually isn't all that hard. Take a number like 2e7, that simply means 2 followed by 7 zeros
      2e7 = 20 000 000
      if there's a decimal place then just write everything after the decimal place "over the top of" the zeros (what you're really doing in either case is moving the decimal point to the right the specified number of times, adding zeros as necessary)
      2.364e7 = 23 640 000
      Multiplying numbers is pretty straightforward, just multiply the parts before the "e"s and add the parts after:
      2e4 * 3e5 = (2*3)e(4+5) = 6e9
      Division is similar - divide the parts before the "e" and subtract the parts after
      6e7 / 3e4 = (6/3)e(7-4) = 2e3
      Often though you'll end up with a number before the "e" that's larger than ten or smaller than one. That's not exactly wrong, anyone who sees the number will know exactly what it means, but it makes things all ugly again. To clean it up just remember that the number after the "e" means "move the decimal point to the right this many times". So lets say I end up with 0.0354e9. For "clean" scientific notation I want one (nonzero) digit to the left of the ".", so move the decimal place right until we get it (_'s show where the decimal "used to be" as I move it):
      0_0_3.54 - so we had to move it to the right 2 times.
      Now remember the part after the "e" tells us how many times we needed to move the decimal place to the right to get the real number, so if we originally needed to move it right 9 times, and then we moved it right two times to clean things up, we would still need to move it 9 - 2 = 7 times to get the real number. So the cleaned up number is:
      3.54e(9-2) = 3.54e7
      The same basic method is used when you end up with a number 10 or larger, except in this case we're moving the decimal place to the *left* to clean it up, so to get the real number afterwards we'd need to move it even farther to the right - so we add the number of clean-up steps instead of subtracting. Lets say we start with
      1538.0e4
      to clean up we have to move the decimal three places to the left
      1.5_3_8_0
      so the final number is
      1.5380e(4 + 3) = 1.538e7
      notice that I dropped the last "trailing" zero, that's always safe to do. Remember we add zero back in whenever we need them when we're moving the decimal to the right

      Adding or subtracting is slightly trickier, but not much. Basically we just need to get both numbers after the "e" to be the same first, and then we can just do normal math on the leading part and leave the "e" part alone. Say we want to know what 5e6 - 3e4 is. Just take the number with the bigger "e" number and move the decimal right, reducing the "e" number by one each time(since we've used up one of the moves it's telling us we need to make). In this case that's 5e6, so moving

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  37. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These posts have opened my eyes, as I never before realised the devious threat of BIG KEYBOARD. They endlessly troll the long winded AC into applying excessive wear and tear on his keyboard, forcing him to purchase replacement after replacement, as even the fabled model M could not withstand such a barrage. While I applaud him single handily holding up the entire keyboard industry through keyboard consumption in these down times, we must remember he is still a victim in the end. Unfortunately, the only recourse may be to join them instead of fighting them, by endorsing a particular brand and being a spokesman demonstrating their keyboards' resilience.

    I'll never forget the evils of BIG KEYBOARD now, because I refuse to accept the alternative explanation: a voyeuristic keyboard sadist.

  38. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disprove his points here and if you can? You've made a point http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 and moreso, here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40868627 . Somehow I don't think you will be able to. It's pure facts and those are undeniable. The other anonymous coward trolls like you who probably are you just blew it one after another all though their useless attacks on the man on

    transactions vs rows
    power redundancy
    trying to put words in apk's mouth he never stated ( he asked them to show where he said "only ms is best" and they couldn't though they/you said he did)

    Then stalking and harassing\trolling apk by ac posts, then downmodding him wrongly. Slashdot's full of trolls like yourself, and it's funny to watch him shoot you all down endlessly. You must be masochists.

  39. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think the truth of such facts have any relevance to the post you just replied to, that shows a fundamental naivety far beyond any mistake about databases. While one or more other ACs may fail to understand databases, you seem to repetitively fail to basic reading and social comprehension.

    And remember, 1+1=2, it's a fact. These universities all agree. Unless you can disprove this, since it is a fact, it means this post wins and you lose. If you can't disprove such a fact, then you must be a troll (although quite inefficient, usually the trick is to make other people waste more time than you).

  40. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be in need of medication, as no sane person would be so obsessed about stalking apk. Only a fool missing his medication would continue to deny facts in the face of such a superior opponent.

    Until you disproved the facts http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985 , it will be your posts that lose. Only a loser would fake being knowledgeable about databases for attention.

  41. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever consider what it would look like to someone who replies to one of your comments for the first time? They might give some polite, or at least terse, constructive criticism, which you do get from time to time. But then you go off about how they are just a sock-puppet, how they put words in your mouth, and about how important facts are. To them it is a pretty obvious fact they were not the other person you claim, that you are putting words in their mouth. In the rare case you get someone to actually engage in the posts you put so much time into, you thoroughly demonstrate to them why others question your sanity, why people avoid or mod you down on sight. You might as well start arguing with yourself if you don't care about the impact of your responses (assuming you don't already, wouldn't be surprising at this point).

  42. Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Roughly 200++ of them & I post as AC (hard to get even +1, as /. hides our posts & we "AC"'s start @ ZERO/0 points, unlike registered "lusers", lol!):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):

    HOSTS & BGP:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450
    FIREFOX IN DANGER: 2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2559120&cid=38268580
    TESLA:2010 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1872982&cid=34264190
    TESLA:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1806946&cid=33777976
    NVIDIA 2d:2006 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147
    COMPUTER ASSOCIATES BUSTED FOR ACCOUNTING FRAUD:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102

    ----

    +4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (5):

    APK SECURITY GUIDE:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198
    INFO. SYSTEMS WORK:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817
    WINDOWS @ NASDAQ 7++ YRS. NOW:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315
    CARMACK'S ARMADILLO AEROSPACE:2005 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158310&cid=13263898
    What I admire about Theo DeRaadt of BSD fame: 2012 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3007641&cid=40785151

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    +3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):

    APK MICROSOFT INTERVIEW:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974
    APK MS SYMBOLIC DIRECTORY LINKS:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137
    APK FOOLS IE7 INSTALL IN BETA HOW TO:2006 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222
    PROOFS ON OPERA SPEED & SECURITY:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&cid=20291847
    HBGary POST in Fake Names On Social Networks, a Fake Problem:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2375110&cid=37056304
    APK RC STOP ROOKIT TECHNIQUES:2008 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261

    ----

    +2 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (18):

    CODING FOR DEFCON (my compressed/packed exe + sizecheck @ startup technique): 2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227
    HOW DLL API CALL LOADS WORK:2008 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1001489&cid=25441395
    WERNER VON BRAUN - A Nazi Scientis

    1. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK shuts the trolls up with facts. Works every time.

    2. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You call this shutting them up? Doesn't look like it has worked.

    3. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working great, I estimate another 50-75 pages of facts might finish him off. Remember to be generous with the links.

    4. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly you were good enough to over come the ac and sock puppet modding handicaps in the past before. How come nothing here is modded up then? Can't you get it up any more?

    5. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    6. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. You fail.

    7. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    8. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still not working, finally figured out what your words taste like?

    9. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another 49 pages left to go.

    10. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to have fallen a long way. That type of comment will never get a high moderation. You need some more originality, as a few people around here are trigger happy about moderating "redundant." Since your karma must be running pretty low right now, you wouldn't want to take even more of a hit, making it more difficult to spread your facts.

    11. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're yet to see anyone get the best of apk's points too on how Windows scales well in high tpm environs in his first post at 99.999% uptime too. Just a lot of ad hominem attacks or ac trolling instead. You're just making him look better than ever. Is that your plan? If it is it is working. Linux can't claim that at say the LSE, because it fell over 2 times and right off the bat there in under 2 minutes iirc. NASDAQ still has almost a decade of solid 99.999% uptime by comparison (and Windows was doing well at LSE but the people there don't know how to run it and I say that because of NASDAQ). AC's don't have karma and I am sure that moderation for apk was taken care of quite well even though he's an ac poster he got a lot of up mods (harder for ac's to get since slashdot hides ac posts by default and ac posts start at zero) here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 which made YOU eat your words here, lol http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869855 and here too on that same account http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40872299 which was totally hilarious.

    13. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      49 more pages of you eatin your words like here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769 and before that herehttp://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 since both your ac troll off topic posts before them fried you.

    14. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      48 pages to go, although it looks like the ac troll is winning and you can't keep up.

    15. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    16. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the other ACs just shut up APK from the pressure. APK gave up addressing questions and points, and just copy pastes posts about eating words.

    17. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. You still fail.

    18. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just proved my point.

    19. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. Keep failing.

    20. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like APK is the one that shuts up when someone actually stands up to his BS. Or at least he hides behind his copy-pasting.

    21. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, he runs and hides when people start disproving his facts. He has to resort to claiming they faked links when clearly they are the same links.

    22. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. Fail.

    23. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. Fail more.

    24. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that the best you can do at this point? If you are going to be that lazy, you could have actually responded with the same copy-paste to other unanswered comments instead of looking like you were running away from them.

    25. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. There the link where he did it and fact in it is verifiable and indisputable. Fail times three.

    26. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about... no?

    27. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    28. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you aren't going to have anything new to say and sound a like a broken record, at least use a thesaurus to find a few new ways to say the same thing over and over again.

    29. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit complaining about having to eat your words here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 . You did that to yourself shooting your big ac troll mouth off and then having to eat your words flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-defeat" and your foot in your mouth (lmao) in the face of facts posted there that toss your crap in the post before it back in your mouth to eat. Don't toss orders. We don't obey you, get it? Good. We're not you mama who will give in to your tantrums either. So you will get the fact you had to eat your words tossed back at you again and again as long as you keep trolling. Accept it as fact.

    30. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He isn't the one eating his words ac troll. You are http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

    31. Re:Proof MULTIPLE PEOPLE disagree w/ you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't give a crap about the host files, so I don't see how I could be bested no matter how correct someone is about it.

      However, claiming to shut people up amidst several hundred posts going absolutely nowhere... such a contraction that the laughing hurts.

  43. Funny these facts "shot you down" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Argue with the numbers", vs. your b.s. here (lol) -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

    * Good luck - you'll NEED it (and a hell of a lot of data to the contrary since your own words blew you away).

    APK

    P.S.=> It was just TOO easy... Thanks for making ME look good as per usual, & YOU? Not so good... apk

    1. Re:Funny these facts "shot you down" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for making ME look good as per usual

      And thanks for making me look good too. By reminding everyone I am just a single AC troll responsible for every non-APK post here, you let my ability shine. After all, making sure I use both US and UK spellings, different quotation styles, and alternate between collegiate and failed high school language skills takes a lot of careful planning and multiple spreadsheets. I think you for acknowledging the level of genius you've been up against.

    2. Re:Funny these facts "shot you down" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK accepted your apology here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707 Now take your meds again. Seems Your last dose is wearing off.

    3. Re:Funny these facts "shot you down" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. Having to eat your words and in the form of shit sandwiches (lmao) doesn't make you look good.

  44. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have to know though: What's it TASTE like, eating your own words flavored w/ the "bitter taste of defeat" (by facts), & your foot in your mouth?

    Why do I ask this of you?? Simple:

    "Argue with the numbers", vs. your b.s. here (lol) -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

    * Good luck - you'll NEED it (and a hell of a lot of data to the contrary since your own words blew you away).

    (OH, by-the-by? The last poster wasn't me, so you "double-fail", lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> It was just TOO easy... Thanks for making ME look good as per usual, & YOU? Not so good... apk

  45. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You repetitively fail in being on topic. Grow up and stop being a douche.

  46. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you get on topic troll? Go away until you can.

  47. What justifies the -1 TROLL rating? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Post facts Penguins can't take that makes them look stupid and they react like the bitches they are with unjustified bad down moderations.

    1. Re:What justifies the -1 TROLL rating? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the Pittsburgh Penguins really hate it when you show them their stats, especially their center.

    2. Re:What justifies the -1 TROLL rating? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

  48. Your grammar sucks troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Have you ever consider' by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 04, @01:13AM (#40875705)

    The correct turn of that phrase is "Have you ever considered", moron. Before you give advice, learn to write, idiot.

    1. Re:Your grammar sucks troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good idea, since APK doesn't use capitalization correctly and thinks "u" is the same as "you," we can disregard any advice he gives.

  49. Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Listen: Nobody actually reads your incomprehensible bullshit comments. Nobody. Learn to write properly and (most of all) coherently and that might change." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, @04:15PM (#40872299)

    Oh, really? Ok then: "Read 'em & weep" - See the link below:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

    QUESTION: How do your words taste flavored w/ the "bitter taste of defeat" & your foot in your mouth, fool?

    (ROTFLMAO!)

    * See - I've always just absolutely just LOVED 'dusting' silly trolling chumps like YOU using undeniable facts/truths... & that link above + the concrete & verifiable facts in it does the job, perfectly!

    APK

    P.S.=> So answer the question above on how eating your off topic trolling bullshit words tastes, pusscake... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha! Well played. Perfect.

    2. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha! Well played. Perfect.

    3. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha! Well played. Perfect.

    4. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha! Well played. Perfect.

    5. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha! Well played. Maybe slightly less than perfect.

    6. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    7. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    8. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    9. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

    10. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't take a complement from a real person?

    11. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't take a complement from another person?

    12. Re:Time to "eat your words" chump... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't even take a slightly humble complement?

  50. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you both stay on topic? By the way, LHC rocks at IT.

  51. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You already blew it on transactions vs rows, proving you can't read http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40868427. This makes me laugh now that your back to your modas operandi of attacking grammar and punctuation, because you can't disprove the facts http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753.

  52. Re:I don't really give a s h i t by DerUberTroll · · Score: 0

    Don't give a shit.

  53. No, it was you idiot (trying to fool us?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give us a break troll. You've been off topic here the entire time trolling. Trying to impersonate others is the sign you're losing badly and you know this. Running from disproving points of fact here is another. I said it before http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875531 and I will say it again: Take your meds!

  54. Is writing the topic here troll? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also prove that apk uses 'u' instead of 'you'. I haven't seen his posts have that in them and he identifies himself as 'APK'
    every post he makes. You prove that here, can you? Didn't think so. You're an off topic troll who is destroying himself which is why you stalk others by ac posts as I noted here earlier that you need medication and have serious mental issues http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875531

  55. I can't prove it and an apology for trolling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apology for not taking my meds. I admit apk is right and that I am an off topic troll who has issues since apk has gotten the best of me so many times online I have to hide under pure anonymous coward posts off topic the entire time. I am no man, and am truly an anonymous wuss.

  56. Alright I apologize to apk and others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I forgot to take my psycho meds. I just did and am sane again. Apologies for going off topic trolling apk and I can't disprove his points.

    1. Re:Alright I apologize to apk and others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange you avoided a simple question here though http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769 Hahahaha. We understand. You're busy eating your words (and your foot too, rotflmao) for lunch!

    2. Re:Alright I apologize to apk and others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that those meds finally kicked in, I remembered I am APK. I also remembered how much I like the sound of my own voice. I think I'll argue with myself some more build my spirits.

    3. Re:Alright I apologize to apk and others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  57. APOLOGY ACCEPTED (you avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About time you wised up and took those meds of yours!

    APK

    P.S.=> Still, you evaded disproving facts I used, and avoided a question!

    You never told me how your words tasted though, lmao, when you had to "eat them" (lol), flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH (lmao), due to shooting your mouth off, and yet again? Facts did you in, here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769

    1. Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED (you avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perfectly played! The off topic ac troll steaming between that fail and his grammar sucking badly. The grammar one hit home due to his reaction.

    2. Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED (You avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you APK, for demonstrating to us the pinnacle of on-topic posting. This post is so on topic, I think I weep a tear of joy. </sarcasm>

    3. Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED (You avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK already admitted he isn't on topic here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877877. I don't know why he is so obsessed with what it tastes like to eat one's own words when he is busy eating his own too. Maybe he lacks taste.

    4. Re:APOLOGY ACCEPTED (You avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK accepted your apology here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707 Now take your meds again. Seems Your last dose is wearing off.

  58. APOLOGY ACCEPTED (You avoid questions though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About time you wised up and took those meds of yours!

    APK

    P.S.=> Still, you evaded disproving facts I used, and avoided a question!

    You never told me how your words tasted though, lmao, when you had to "eat them" ( lol ), flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH (lmao), due to shooting your mouth off, and yet again? Facts did you in, here -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876769

  59. LOL, writing troll screwed up (struck a nerve) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He reminds me of this dolt named Jeremy Reimer at arstechnica who tries to play the charade of saying he's a writer since he as some dime novel that sells for $2.99 (hahaha) but in truth he lives off his stripper slime wife giving blowjobs for $10 and he does this kind of thing. I think he's gay because they have no kids and he probably blackmails her into the deal. Must be, no kids. On writing though he fails to realize any child by the age of 6 yrs. old can write and he thinks he's special? He's a known forums troll that tries to play science fiction writer and the only fiction is that in his delusions of being a writer, and he knows no science, least of all computer science which is our topic here. Good job on catching his fail on writing. It really did strike a nerve obviously. I'd bet it's Reimer. APK floored him and all of arstechnica outside their private playpen at OSY or Arstechnica over at Windows IT Pro completely. Reimer's too stupid so he brought in Jay Little who was mentioned here already once and APK blew him away on Exchange Servers which Little said he was expert in. Some expert. Then Reimer brought in a guy named Jarrett DeAngelis who posts here as StarKruzr and he ended up agreeing with APK on 99% of what apk stated. Reimer couldn't handle it and has been stalking apk since or trash talking him but only where he has control on his OSY forum or Arstechnica. I think he learned his lesson trying to confront apk outside those private playpens of his.

    1. Re:LOL, writing troll screwed up (struck a nerve) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good insight, probably correct. I know that idiot Reimer and he trolls just like the off topic anonymous coward has been here in this exchange, off topic the entire time. Didn't know his wife's a stripper though who gives BJ's. I'll have to look her up sometime and ask him how my dick tastes when I go to ars again. That will get a rise out of him.

  60. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least APK stayed on topic. This was funny from him http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 where he made the stalking troll 'eat his words'. Truth and facts do off topic trolls in every time. APK uses that method and it works. I found it amusing here when they are 'writing trolls' and they mess up badly which is ironically hilarious as it was here also http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40876377

  61. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can he get on topic when the off topic ac troll's eating http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 ? Hahahaha.

  62. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eating? Oh, off topic ac trolls' own words he spouted here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40869855 and apk put up verifiable posts of his up mods when the ac troll spewed out nobody reads his posts. I get it. He handed the ac troll his trolling ass on that one.

  63. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only about 120 universities? You must have cherry picked the tiny minority. Although you might be able to find another dozen, it still doesn't disprove the vast majority don't run Windows.

  64. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is still failing to be on topic over here on a new story http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775.

  65. That wasn't apk. It was ac. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK accepted your apology here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707 Now take your meds again. Seems Your last dose is wearing off.

    1. Re:That wasn't apk. It was ac. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was just some ac troll that accepted it. The real APK wouldn't be tricked into some false apology.

    2. Re:That wasn't apk. It was ac. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good to see you apologize n take your meds. Take em again please. You need em.

  66. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK accepted your apology here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707 Now take your meds again. Seems Your last dose is wearing off.

  67. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That apology didn't seem to stick, as he is still spewing stuff in yet another story here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40884103

  68. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts are facts. Where's yours? They're not. The top of the post is what mattered, in high tpm, proving it can scale to enterprise class loads and across many systems via Clustering and keep 99.999% uptime while doing so. Just facts to support it, rather than hot air anecdotal evidence from you now. There is a difference. A big difference. One that's got you uptight it seems that yes not only nix based OS can do uptime and scale to that level.

  69. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impersonating apk isn't nice of you. Post beneath that shows it. Nice you apologized to apk after you took your meds and got sane again http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707 but it appears you need to take them again since your dose is obviously wearing off.

  70. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

  71. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. You resorting to impersonating him (to which the post after that even states people know that wasn't apk in the thread you posted) only makes you eat more of those shit sandwiches (lol) you're eating now.

  72. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

  73. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like. You'd be stay brief since filling those shit sandwiches (lmao) you keep eating's gotta taste really bad (lol).

  74. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real working world's more of a test than academia and the end goal of it. Academia's for noobz and he stated that all of his examples wouldn't even fit in a single slashdot post - don't you read? Obviously not. There's more obviously based on that and everyone knows that Windows absolutely crushes Linux in combined desktop + server marketshare combined. That's an industry established fact. Get real. Keep eating those shit sandwiches filled full of your words that you keep eating which obviously are shit.

  75. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What' worse, impersonating APK to say more of the same, or impersonating an apology? Isn't an apology empty if you fake it yourself?

  76. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like it is failing in the real world of video games over here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40884103.

  77. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts are facts, but you're the one just giving anecdotal evidence. Just a short list of universities and states that fall so far short of a significant fraction.

  78. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See the link I post below and the one parent to it before it http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 which proves APK made you the ac stalking harassing troll eat your words, easily, for shooting your mouth off as you did erroneously.

  79. How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TOO many along the lines of "Windows != Secure, & Linux = Secure", right? Well.... 2011-2012 show a WEE bit differently! Time for you to "eat your words" yet again (complete by being spiced with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & of course, your foot in your mouth once more)!

    Ready? Here goes:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

    http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

    ---

    Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

    ---

    Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

    What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

    ---

    London Stock Exchange serving malware:

    http://slashdot.org/submission/1484548/London-Stock-Exchange-Web-Site-Serving-Malware

    (I mean hey - NOT ONLY DID LINUX FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE less than a few minutes into the job http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/02/19/0147232/London-Stock-Exchange-Price-Errors-Emerged-At-Linux-Launch, & crash not only ONCE, but TWICE there? You see "Linux 'fine security'" in motion @ the LSE too!)

    ---

    DUQU ROOTKIT/BOTNET BEING SERVED FROM LINUX SERVERS:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/11/30/1610228/duqu-attackers-managed-to-wipe-cc-servers

    ---

    Linux Foundation, Linux.com Sites Down To Fix Security Breach:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/09/11/1325212/linux-foundation-linuxcom-sites-down-to-fix-security-breach

    ---

    Linux's showing in CA's breached recently too? Ok: (very, Very, VERY BAD for ecommerce, online shopping, banking, etc./et al)

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=StartCom.com

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=GlobalSign.com

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=Comodo.com

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=Digi

    1. Re:How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go get 'em apk. Talkin games? Linux has 1/1000th of Windows games presently available! Clearly, he's out of his mind.

    2. Re:How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like someone finally took the time to disprove some of your points http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886569. Must really suck to get beaten by a video game player, as they aren't the brightest folk.

    3. Re:How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're shot down again http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886795 Impersonating apk and using facts he used here isn't helping your cause. I also didn't see anyone disprove his points there so how can you say he was beaten? You're beating yourselves.

    4. Re:How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading comprehension fail.

    5. Re:How many YEARS of /. b.s. did we hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn to read. You're also running from this there http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886827 by not producing the links you said didn't show Windows running on the state and academic sites you said they didn't run Windows on. Poor job troll. Seriously. I checked the first state and collegiate sites. Many were IIS and Windows only in fact. Your little 1 line replies (or rather just the last 4 letters in lies) and keeping up your trolling's only making apk look better along with lies you told there http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886569 which it appears you're being shot down again in and having to eat your words yet again.

  80. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A tip from a friend and supporter: the AC troll is doing it again on a third story here

  81. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks more like APK just gave up and is copy pasting things now. That or he has a fetish for eating words.

  82. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That wasn't a troll, that was APK unable to contain his fail to just one or even two stories.

  83. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK made you eat your words here lol http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 in your post prior to it. How do they taste considering they're flavored with "the bitter taste of YOUR SELF-DEFEAT" and your foot in YOUR mouth when you shot it off in the post he replied to. Rotflmao. How many times has he shot you down that you are forced to post as anonymous coward since you're afraid to get shot down under your registered user account here (doubtless one of many sock puppets you keep)? Too many. You know it, I know it, and anyone reading (many did) know it.

  84. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He said all wouldn't fit and used netcraft as proof. Not anecdotal. Can't you read? You had zero proof with cited backing like he did with netcraft and other reputable sources, and say that he posted mere unsubstantiated anecdotes like you did? LMAO!

  85. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like he's forced you to post as anonymous coward too. After all, you're the one complaining about being stalked and downmodded. If the AC trolls hadn't won, you would be posting here with an account and be modded up.

  86. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  87. APOLOGY RECINDED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, since I made the apology, I am the one that can take it back. Apology rescinded.

    1. Re:APOLOGY RECINDED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't take your apology back, I already accepted it here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40877707.

  88. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  89. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  90. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  91. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  92. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, it was APK that made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

  93. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still won't acknowledge that AC made APK eat his words here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40883639

  94. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He doesn't have to, because APK made you eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 hahahaha and since your words were proven full of shit then we know what they must have tasted like.

  95. Re:Business people did LONG ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't you both eat words in fucking silence?

  96. Linux trolls sink to new lows caught lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're shot down yet again here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40886979 stating links apk put up here (which are the original data, not what an impostor screwed up on there in the post parent to them all over there impersonating apk there http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40884103 which is missing using Baylor like APK did here, for colleges). The ac troll there said state and collegiate siets weren't running Windows for state governments and for academic institutions. They are, since others checked them. You fail trolls and make Linux users look like a pack of lying women.

  97. Linux trolls caught lying and impersonating apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've sunk to new lows and are sinking their own ship http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40887471

  98. APK doesn't have to, he's not eating his words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux trolls are though caught lying here http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40887471 as well as impersonating apk in another thread (but they missed Baylor data apk put up here in this discussion during their cut and paste ) and lies about how data apk put up here didn't show Windows\IIS running on state government and collegiate servers apk posted. Netcraft data showed otherwise. Penguin ac trolls sank to new lows and sank their own ship doing it.

  99. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AC trolls have been caught impersonating him 2x here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775 and here http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40884103 , that's just another one so that's no fact. It's just more ac troll garbage.

  100. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "what' worse"? Grammar troll, grammar! Now, eat your words http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753

  101. Re:APOLOGY REJECTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK only had to post once to make you eat your words troll http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40875753 lmao.

  102. You're "shot down again", ac shill troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

    Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

    (With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

    That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025, proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

    and also here:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

    (Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

    As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

    (Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

    ---

    Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

    ---

    LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

    However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    ---

    Talk about LOW!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

    http://linux.slashdot.org/sto

  103. Linux ac shill trolls "BIG FAIL": Busted... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FROM -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40905783

    Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

    Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

    (With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

    That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025, proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

    and also here:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

    (Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

    As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

    (Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

    ---

    Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

    ---

    LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

    However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    ---

    Talk about LOW!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kern

  104. Linux ac trolls' "BIG FAIL": Busted... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FROM -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40905783

    Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

    Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

    (With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

    That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025, proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

    and also here:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

    (Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

    As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

    (Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

    ---

    Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

    ---

    LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

    However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    ---

    Talk about LOW!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kern

  105. Linux ac shill trolls' "BIG FAIL": Busted... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FROM -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40905783

    Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

    Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

    (With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

    That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025, proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

    and also here:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

    (Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

    As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

    (Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

    ---

    Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

    ---

    LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

    However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    ---

    Talk about LOW!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kern

  106. Linux ac shill trolls' "BIG FAIL": Busted... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FROM -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40905783

    Running from this too -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    When & where you took MY original data in this thread here we're in now:

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40867985

    Which is my original data from THIS thread, and, FAR EARLIER DATED and different than your "altered model" where you impersonated me, here, in another thread:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887319

    (With YOU missing the Baylor link above, & MY ORIGINAL LINK 1st one above? Has it...)

    That's proof you altered it to impersonate me, also HERE http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40887025, proving you altered it, & impersonated me!)

    and also here:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026929&cid=40883775

    (Where you did NOT miss the baylor link, but both impersonate ME to say "Windows is 'better'" - you're busted, stupid!)

    As NEITHER of those last 2 links just now are myself, since in my original? I never EVER said "Windows is better" AND I had Baylor's data in it, and mine's dated earlier!

    (Though Windows IS better, for a great many things, Linux has it's niche too... albeit in combined servers + pc desktop marketshare, it's an industry fact provable statistically that it is FAR behind marketshare & usage to Windows!)

    ---

    Which in fact, netcraft SHOWS Baylor uses Windows:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.baylor.edu

    ---

    LMAO - You later also tried to say that Linux was running on those servers & it was NOT and IS still not, by altering the data here in that other thread -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40888699

    However - The actual netcraft links I posted afterwards (which you would NOT post) show otherwise! Since I posted right after that to shoot you down in your lies and deceitful b.s. -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3026917&cid=40890277

    ---

    Talk about LOW!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as the YEARS of /. propoganda of "Linux = Secure, Windows !=Secure"? I can only put out Linux's fails from 2011-2012 also:

    2012:

    Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

    So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

    LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

    What's health.utah.gov running too??

    YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

    * Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

    ===

    2011:

    KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kern

  107. oracle infrastructure details? by Finite9 · · Score: 1

    I'd like to know what their infrastructure looks like for storing that 1GB/s.

    I was at OpenWorld in 2003 and they had some guy there from CERN giving a talk about how they were using Oracle9i (I read later that they upgraded to 10g, but no-doubt they upgrade to later versions relatively quickly), and he did mention that petabyte/s buzzword. It would be very interesting to know how it was all implemented, and how they manage to write 1GB/s to disk. Must be some serious RAC clustering going on, and some serious disk bandwidth capacity, but I wonder when they purge the data. After all, 1GB/s is going to require massive storage, and if you've gone with one of the big boys for storage like NetApp then it won't only be their research that could be termed as 'astronomical'.

    --
    "Everyone knows that vi vi vi is the number of the beast" -- Richard Stallman