uTorrent Adds "Featured Torrents" Ads — With No Opt Out (Yet)

Not surprised by nanoflower · 2012-08-12 00:28 · Score: 5, Insightful

This isn't really surprising. It's one reason I never upgraded to the latest version when they started tossing in the kitchen sink instead of sticking with just being a great bittorrent client.

Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:24 · Score: 4, Interesting

I love Slashdot, but all the comments below are pretty standard bashing we've come to expect. My first thought was actually another direction: This could actually provide more legitimacy to the protocol. Any company showing you can use the medium for legal, profit-generating activities is a Good Thing in my book. Doubly so if if it's the founders.
Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:32 · Score: 1

This isn't really surprising. It's one reason I never upgraded to the latest version when they started tossing in the kitchen sink instead of sticking with just being a great bittorrent client.
I'm happy with utorrent 2.2.1. No bullshit adds, no nothing. Just a freaking kick ass torrent client.
Re:Not surprised by I(rispee_I(reme · 2012-08-12 01:53 · Score: 5, Informative

Running 2.2.1 here, also.
It can be found here, if anyone is seeking it.
Fair warning: Versions prior to 1.8 don't support magnet links.
Re:Not surprised by nashv · 2012-08-12 01:56 · Score: 1

Exactly. The very day they made a bog box appear in the UI advertising their premium 'Plus' version, I guessed the route it was going and ditched it for : Deluge.

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Re:Not surprised by Fishead · 2012-08-12 02:18 · Score: 2

Thanks! Up... er... Downgraded.
Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:30 · Score: 1

Awesome, thanks. I've got version 1.8.2, so it'll be nice to get the highest upgrade before the shit began. Kinda like how Winamp was good at version 3, but not so much anywhere after that.
Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:31 · Score: 0

or it will just make them a more likely target for a lawsuit, after all they'll be getting paid to show ads to users of a program most of the industry believe is used to primarily pirate content. They'll no doubt see the ad income as lost revenue, just as they claim so for the amount of money people make out of banner ads / server running cost donations on the actual torrent sites.
Re:Not surprised by Samantha+Wright · 2012-08-12 03:11 · Score: 3, Informative

You're misremembering a little—Winamp 3 was the disastrous release that brought in the new skin system, Wasabi. Everyone stuck to 2.95 or so for years and years until Winamp 5 came out, which had support for both skinning systems—but by then the media library was so mediocre, hobbyists had switched to Foobar. AOL mucking things up (WA5 introduced the 'pro' version, I think) didn't help either.

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Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 05:25 · Score: 1

Deluge has absolutely horrible performance, seeing as it's written in Python.
Transmission, written in C, and the standard issue BT client in Ubuntu is much lighter.
Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 07:12 · Score: 0

I agree. But why not create a completely different client to shit up with useless garbage?
Re:Not surprised by AnRkey · 2012-08-12 08:23 · Score: 0

I switched to this >> http://www.qbittorrent.org/ Way better, run's on linux and my doze boxes.
Re:Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 10:02 · Score: 0

Totally agree! Why shouldn't we honour those who provide tools for free? Everyone has to pay for their living expenses. It's a nice way to contribute to for the effort they've put in to it.
Re:Not surprised by fast+turtle · 2012-08-12 10:31 · Score: 1

In my case, it's why I've never upgraded beyond the 1.84.1644 version. Does exactly what I need w/o all the crap being added to all the other clients. So Sorry but I don't need my bt client also working as a media player, irc client, skype client or anything more then a bt client and it's that reason I don't use Opera.

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Re:Not surprised by geminidomino · 2012-08-12 13:51 · Score: 1

That's where I ended up when I got sick of uTorrent turning itself into the next Azureus/Vuze. It really doesn't handle magnet links very well, though. For some reason, you can't change the base download location on a magnet, you have to "add torrent in paused mode," then manually change the location.
Seems very strange to me but it's still better than the mess that uTorrent is.
Re:Not surprised by lister+king+of+smeg · 2012-08-12 15:16 · Score: 1

you mean like any of a dozen of the free open source torrent clients already available

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Re:Not surprised by Reziac · 2012-08-13 04:24 · Score: 2

Does 2.2x fix the problem with the little bitty .dat files growing into 50mb monsters while chewing 100% of CPU forever?
I skipped from 1.somethingancient to 3.whatevercurrent and tho some nice features have been added, the stupid .dat bug is insane. Not to mention all the crap I have to turn off again every time I reset the .dat file (using a known-good copy resets the crap, too).

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Re:Not surprised by Blaskowicz · 2012-08-13 04:39 · Score: 1

I've always ignored the library. winamp always was the classic player where you drop files and folders from your file managers, not deal with a library that only takes away from your time and never works anyway when you have a lot of tunes named "Track01", duplicate artists because of spaces vs underscores, etc.
I would still use winamp, but run Audacious nowadays (have started to run the GTK UI very lately, because the winamp 2.x clone has a windows management bug that makes it almost unusable)
Re:Not surprised by nobodie · 2012-08-14 04:21 · Score: 1

I agree that the protocol does need (desperately) legitimacy, but the story about the Internet Archive about to make their archives available through bit torrent is more valuable than this. Another helpful one would be Project Gutenburg, and any other important free online sites using the BT protocol to reduce their costs and legitimize the use of BT for everyone on the net. How about a bit torrent search algorithm that helps create crowd sourced search?
Another thing to consider is what happened with Vuze and Azureus. They also went in the direction of providing a place for content producers to have a way to get their content out to more people, but the result was Vuze, which became so slow and unweildy that I left it long ago for Qbittorrent which had good search features. I still miss some aspects of Vuze/Azureus, but not enough to keep two clients active.

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farewell by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:29 · Score: 0

goodbye utorrent you have served me well.

Re:farewell by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:45 · Score: 0

you could always... I dunno... NOT upgrade utorrent. Just click 'no' when it asks to update.
Boy, that was difficult
Re:farewell by progician · 2012-08-12 22:30 · Score: 1

I guess you aren't the sharpest tool in the box... As with most network related software, bug fixes are necessary part of the life cycle. If you stuck with an older version with a well-known bug that exposes your system, there's a growing chance in time that your system will be hacked and used for purposes other than yours.
Thus, you want to have fixes for your system. uTorrent is a secretive sourced product, thus the users supposed to get their security patches through the regular update channel of the software, which is now includes a shit load of bloatware, which also produces security risk, especially when a software start to act as an other software which the user don't need. In this case, displaying images all over the place, which has no structural role, like the elements of the GUI, but some shit pictures, that qualify as garbage in any honest computer user's house. So, problem can only be solved by leaving this software behind and find an other, regularly maintained software that does what it is expected to do by the user. Downloading and uploading the specified items that the user intends to.
It is also a self-conscious step to not use uTorrent at all: it's a showcase of what's wrong with the commercial attitudes in software production: making money from things that the user don't want to have on their system is not simply a morally wrong thing to do, but also distorts the whole industry, and set it on the path of self-sabotage. Since the PC became a world-wide phenomenon software and content development companies reinvent the wheel every half a year, making the same shit with different logos, wasting millions of hours of development in the name of secrecy in the software production, not to mention the zombified user base tied in to a brand-based consumer indoctrination.

What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowadays? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:30 · Score: 5, Interesting

I dropped Azererus and Ares like a ton of bricks when they pulled this. Sad, because uTorrent was always awesome.

What alternatives do you suggest?

fairly standard business model nowadays by Trepidity · 2012-08-12 00:30 · Score: 5, Insightful

They're basically copying what YouTube and Twitter are doing, selling a "featured content" slot.

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Re:fairly standard business model nowadays by penix1 · 2012-08-12 02:12 · Score: 4, Insightful

They're basically copying what YouTube and Twitter are doing, selling a "featured content" slot.
Which is one reason not to use either of those if you don't want to be profiled and have ads targeting you. From TFS...

the company explained, 'This featured torrent space will be used to offer a variety of different types of content. We are working towards bringing you offers that are relevant to you.'
The only way to do that is to record all of your activity on bittorrent. Once they record that, the next step will be to hand it over to the government / media industry attorneys for later prosecution.

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I propose a new name, MAXTorrent. by gl4ss · 2012-08-12 00:31 · Score: 1

MAXTorrent - for all your rss and media suggestion needs!
how can you be very tiny and have a banner fetcher/shower(I presume some html component)?

or how about very tiny something that does. sure it's tiny +, but still could just brand it as torrent plus.
"Torrent Plus
Play it Safe. Play it Now. Play it Anywhere.
Protect your computer with integrated antivirus
Get the codecs you need to enjoy HD video
Easily move files to your favorite devices
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Re:I propose a new name, MAXTorrent. by Samantha+Wright · 2012-08-12 03:19 · Score: 1

I think Vuze would challenge that title. It comes with a DLNA media server turned on out of the box. (FWIW, uTorrent is also called just "BitTorrent" these days, to be annoying and namespace-polluting.)

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:33 · Score: 5, Informative

Use rtorrent in linux. It is a terminal torrent program that has long since been the best torrent client, but it has no pretty GUI for people who think you have to click on things.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:35 · Score: 1

Transmission is my current torrent client. I love it. It runs on my server and uses a simple web interface.

I'm not sure if it has a Windows port if that's what you run though.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by darkHanzz · 2012-08-12 00:35 · Score: 5, Informative

Transmission is nice for small servers (it has a web-interface) qBittorrent is good for the laptop/desktops

Still not upgrading by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:37 · Score: 0

I'm still using v2 as they broke the rss in 3 when they pushed it on me. I still have no clue whether they have fixed the rss as their release notes & forum refuse to answer.

They also broke their other network settings with lame excuses with it was a good idea on their part. Never downloading anything is not a clever idea...

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:39 · Score: 1

AFAIK Transmission (transmissionbt.com) provides all the same torrent functionality as utorrent and it's open source and cross-platform. It's also got a remote-api and loads of clients, integrated web server etc. I quit using utorrent a few years ago and never looked back..

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Showing ads to thieves by gatkinso · 2012-08-12 00:41 · Score: 3, Interesting

Interesting business model.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by markdavis · 2012-08-12 00:55 · Score: 1, Redundant

Exactly. I was going to post the exact same thing. Too bad I don't have mod points right now.
I find it very ironic that BitTorrent Inc wants to make money using ads off essentially being an illegal distributor of mostly copyrighted content to those mostly illegally downloading copyrighted content, much of which are shows in which ads have been stripped out of them.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:08 · Score: 1

Not sure if funny or sarcastic, but there is merit behind it.
Most people who do pirate things only do it simply because it is a better service than paid models. They hate being shafted, or told what they can do with their content.
They hate having to buy 1500 copies of the same thing because they do anything and everything to try and prevent you from consuming your own content.
And since the more vocal media companies "have no plans to ever support internet distribution" (their words, paraphrased), it'll continue to happen.
Those who take advantage of the internet are going to win out in the end since they are the ones who will be respected more. And it shows even now, never mind some time in the future.
Most people who pirate would be converted easily to purchasing if there was a better service involved. Dealing with pirate copies of things isn't always easy or worth it either. (especially when it comes to games or subbed copies where the subbers were absolutely awful)
Obviously not the angry bunch on here who hate anything and everything to do with advertising in some seriously childish / paranoid way (as if anyone cares about your boring lives, you're a number), but the general public yes.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:18 · Score: 0

Except they don't distribute anything but their own client. It's the users that do all of the distribution.
That's like saying you find it odd that Google advertises through Chrome because Chrome can be used for illegal purposes.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by jones_supa · 2012-08-12 01:20 · Score: 1

That's not the only example of how downloading pirated content has started to show various perverted business models. When first TPB blocks were put into action here in Finland, many people started paying for a cheap VPN to circumvent the block, thus paying again for the pirated material.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by fustakrakich · 2012-08-12 01:51 · Score: 1

Yeah, I would love to see the ??AAs advertise here.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Stirling+Newberry · 2012-08-12 01:56 · Score: 1

Cracking down on copyvio downloads works about as well as cracking down on underage smoking, the real problem with smoking isn't who does it, it is the product itself and the society that people live in. Smoking and capital culture are both ways of making unhappy lives slightly less unbearable for the duration of consumption.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:56 · Score: 0

Considering that there is more that uses Bit torrent (WoW, Linux distributions, etc...) that is not infringing (Hint: It is a different crime on the books...it is not theft...) calling this that is a big fat line of BS.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:03 · Score: 0

File sharers tend to spend a lot of money on legal content as well actually. There are other reasons for pirating (eg, LAN play in SC II) and avoiding viruses, rootkits and malware packaged with legal copies of modern games.
As to your misuse of the word "theft" to refer to sharing, see this handy guide: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg
Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 02:12 · Score: 2

Except they don't distribute anything but their own client. It's the users that do all of the distribution.
That's like saying you find it odd that Google advertises through Chrome because Chrome can be used for illegal purposes.
In theory yes but lets face it, it is likely that most uTorrent users use the program for a slightly illegal purpose.
It's a difference between "can be used for" and "is mostly used for", Chrome is the first and uTorrent the latter.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Nyder · 2012-08-12 02:13 · Score: 4, Informative

Interesting business model.
Okay, first off, downloading copyrighted material isn't stealing.
Second, while a lot of piracy happens using bittorrent, a LOT of legal businesses use it also. For example, The Internet Archive is now online via Bit Torrent. http://bt1.archive.org/hotlist.php

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 02:15 · Score: 1

Considering that there is more that uses Bit torrent (WoW, Linux distributions, etc...) that is not infringing (Hint: It is a different crime on the books...it is not theft...) calling this that is a big fat line of BS.
And do you honestly think that WoW and Linux distributions is what most uTorrent users use that program for?
Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 02:17 · Score: 1

File sharers tend to spend a lot of money on legal content as well actually. There are other reasons for pirating (eg, LAN play in SC II) and avoiding viruses, rootkits and malware packaged with legal copies of modern games.
So pirated material doesn't include viruses, rootkits or malware?

As to your misuse of the word "theft" to refer to sharing, see this handy guide: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg
Sure but that doesn't make it OK.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 02:25 · Score: 0

Okay, first off, downloading copyrighted material isn't stealing.
That doesn't make it OK.

Second, while a lot of piracy happens using bittorrent, a LOT of legal businesses use it also. For example, The Internet Archive is now online via Bit Torrent. http://bt1.archive.org/hotlist.php
Of course there's a lot of legal use. But is that really what most uTorrent users use it for?
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Havenwar · 2012-08-12 02:28 · Score: 1

Might also want to mention WoW patches, which is probably one of the largest legitimate uses of bit-torrent today. Well, aside perhaps from linux-isos, but the most WELL KNOWN legitimate use.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Hatta · 2012-08-12 02:55 · Score: 1, Insightful

Pirates spend more on media than non-pirates.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by markdavis · 2012-08-12 03:01 · Score: 1, Insightful

Indeed there are legit uses for torrents. But if you add it all up, I bet 99.5+% of torrent traffic is the [illegal] exchange of copyrighted, commercial video, music, and software (and in that order, by volume).
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Pi+Is+A+Rational · 2012-08-12 03:47 · Score: 1

I do pirate software, I won't lie. Not as much these days since I'm not a 16 year old boy any more. But, I have used it to legitimately re-download copyrighted games where I can't be assed to find the CD or want to deal with copy protection for those games.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by webmistressrachel · 2012-08-12 04:30 · Score: 1

Yes. I concur. I spend loads on media, blank Ibm-Formatted floppies, DVD+R, CDs... Pirates definitely buy more media...

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:44 · Score: 0

That doesn't matter. It is still just a piece of software that does nothing illegal inherently.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:49 · Score: 0

Do you still look like a man or have you finished your HRT?
Re:Showing ads to thieves by cheekyjohnson · 2012-08-12 05:20 · Score: 1

In theory yes but lets face it, it is likely that most uTorrent users use the program for a slightly illegal purpose.
Well, that's the users' fault, not theirs.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by cheekyjohnson · 2012-08-12 05:22 · Score: 1

That doesn't make it OK.
What makes it "OK" is possibly someone's personal opinion.

But is that really what most uTorrent users use it for?
That doesn't matter at all.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by cheekyjohnson · 2012-08-12 05:23 · Score: 1

Not all uses of it infringe upon copyright, and they can't help that their software is sometimes 'misused.' Honestly, I guess no one can ever have advertisements simply because something that their users do might be illegal.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 06:13 · Score: 1

Which is why "Showing ads to thieves" still holds.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 06:15 · Score: 1

What makes it "OK" is possibly someone's personal opinion.
Well, either that or the law.

That doesn't matter at all.
It does if the argument is about "Showing ads to thieves".
Re:Showing ads to thieves by kthreadd · 2012-08-12 06:20 · Score: 0

I can't go into a store and steal something just because I bought it before and lost it. I'm responsible for keeping track of my own stuff. And I don't try to push the copying vs. stealing debate, it's generally not acceptable to break the law because you forgot were you put your game.
Beside, you shouldn't pirate games anyway, you never know what malware you may get.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 06:27 · Score: 0

1) They show ads to everyone
2) Showing ads is not illegal
Re:Showing ads to thieves by cheekyjohnson · 2012-08-12 06:56 · Score: 1

Well, either that or the law.
The legality of something usually tells you nothing about whether it's moral or not. Well, unless you choose to base your morals entirely on whether something is legal or not, but in that case, I'd say your moral code is pretty fickle (as laws change).

It does if the argument is about "Showing ads to thieves".
They're shown to everyone. I don't even see why it matters, or why anyone would care. They have no way to magically know who they're showing ads to, nor do I believe it should be their responsibility. If someone doesn't like it, they can take it up with the so-called 'thieves'.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by cheekyjohnson · 2012-08-12 07:01 · Score: 1

And I don't try to push the copying vs. stealing debate
It's a meaningful distinction, I think. On one hand, you take something away from something else (which inflicts actual harm upon them), and on the other, you're simply getting a copy. And if what he is true, then he already paid for it. What's your problem?

it's generally not acceptable to break the law because you forgot were you put your game.
Again, I don't know where your moral code comes from, but mine certainly doesn't come from the law.

Beside, you shouldn't pirate games anyway, you never know what malware you may get.
I suspect that only happens if you don't know what you're doing (you know, like downloading virtually any software from the internet). In that case, it's probably better not to.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 07:48 · Score: 0

Nice source.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by markdavis · 2012-08-12 07:56 · Score: 1

It is obviously speculation and I didn't claim otherwise. But if you think it is wrong, you are welcome to provide a counter speculation or perhaps even a "source".
Re:Showing ads to thieves by webmistressrachel · 2012-08-12 08:48 · Score: 1

Do you still look like a giant wart, or is there another reason you're still stalking me, HOSTS troll?

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 09:46 · Score: 0

you are welcome to provide a counter speculation
96.8% of torrent use is the exchange of Linux ISOs and public doman materials.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by markdavis · 2012-08-12 09:59 · Score: 1

Yeah, right :)
We only wish that were true!
Re:Showing ads to thieves by geminidomino · 2012-08-12 14:05 · Score: 1

Ah, the entitled. ...Weak willed individuals unable to deny themselves something and entitlements speak volumes.
"Entitlements" like being paid for the rest of their lives PLUS four more generations, for work completed once.
"Entitlements" like the power to punish suspected infringers without any interference from?
"Entitlements" such as not even being financially responsible for the exercise of the above, instead putting that off on the ISP and their workforces, without compensation?
Talk some more about "entitlements", you shilling ballsack.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by geminidomino · 2012-08-12 14:34 · Score: 1

Hm. Cut off my line for some reason, and I didn't even use any angle-brackets. The second line should read
"...without any interference from those pesky courts, much less an actual trial"
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Galestar · 2012-08-12 16:19 · Score: 1

Making a copy of something you already have a license for is not illegal. You are making a false analogy by comparing it to stealing from a store since you are not only taking the bits, but you are taking the physical media/box/materials.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Kalriath · 2012-08-12 17:07 · Score: 1

What you purchase when you buy a music CD or a game is a license to the product, and physical media containing a copy of the licensed material. Since you've paid for a license, acquiring another copy of it is not an unauthorised activity. Rightsholders cannot have their cake and eat it too.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Kalriath · 2012-08-12 17:28 · Score: 1

That's not APK. You can tell APK because he has a lot of bold in his posts, and always - and I mean always - changes the subject line of his post. He never replies with the default subject.
Unless there's someone else who also goes on about hosts files a lot?

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by TranquilVoid · 2012-08-12 17:56 · Score: 1

Well, what does your intuition tell you from the circles in which you associate?
From a quick Google search 2010 appears to have been the year for these studies. There are two major ones sumarised here.
Princeton (USA): 99% illegal
Ballarat (Australia): 99.7% illegal (89% definitely, 10.7% likely)
One possible flaw is that these studies aimed at trackers, and I'm guessing Blizzard use their own tracker for Warcraft patches.
On the other hand, a Warcraft patch can be considered a single torrent and so would not affect these statistics greatly as they counted torrent files, not traffic. There is some mention of traffic but it is not clearly analysed into illegal/legal in the summary.
Re:Showing ads to thieves by Lando · 2012-08-12 20:51 · Score: 1

While Markdavis's numbers are extremely unlikely to be correct, I know that 96.8% legal use of bittorrent protocol is definitely incorrect. Just to make a note, illegal doesn't mean immoral. Actually, I have no problems illegally downloading information off the web, but that is based on my own morals and not what is legal or illegal.
That being said, I think the number of illegal downloads is around 95%, not quite as bad as 99.5%, but still pretty high. It could be lower, but the problem is that it is hard to track without specifically looking at the packets going in and out of a large number of computers and determining whether each packet is legal or illegal, but doing this would remove network neutrality provisions for the isp that did it and open them to being sued by users and copyright owners, some of which might even be both.
I maintain a torrent server to trade my personal files and photos with friends, family and various business files, but most of my information is just downloaded from either my server or from some website or file server. I like having the torrent server, but frankly not enough people are interested in my files to make it of much use. I do see bittorrent used by several companies to distribute patches and the like and there is definitely a legitimate use for the protocol. That being said, it's the manner in which it is used, not the tool itself that makes it legal/illegal. Using a hammer to hammer in a nail, fine, using a hammer to break into a car and steal stuff, not such a good idea. If you get caught illegally downloading material, it's your choice and you will have to bare the consequences. I'm more than happy to have my day in court if I'm caught.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by webmistressrachel · 2012-08-13 07:10 · Score: 1

Lol, this idiot has been trolling me about my gender (yes, you heard that right, my gender; his issues!) ever since I got into an epic flamewar with the HOSTS troll and someone who is actually transgendered, and has been trolled for it.
I assumed it was him. It's been going on a while, now.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by Kalriath · 2012-08-13 09:57 · Score: 1

Ah, I see. It's not the hosts guy though - you'd know if it was him.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by theArtificial · 2012-08-14 07:00 · Score: 0

Hm. Cut off my line for some reason, and I didn't even use any angle-brackets. The second line should read
Proof your work, you'll appear like less of a bumbling fuck that way. Also being called a "shilling ballsack" for disputing those who feel they're entitled to someone else's work LOL gotta love this place. I must've struck a nerve. I happen to make a living creating software and from time to time music among other things (commercials, radio spots, print for clients). I've included a definition since you seem to make a fantastic leap from those who take for whatever reasons (being poor, people testing out stuff, cheap fucks etc.) to controlling media companies who have bent laws and more to their will. I don't recall advocating that in my post and according to your hilarious baseless claim that my opinion is entirely dependent upon being paid by these media companies. It couldn't be for any other reason! I'll give you one: it's mine.

entitlement/enttlmnt/
Noun:
The fact of having a right to something.
The amount to which a person has a right.
Why do you believe you have a right to someone else's work you ballsack? I'm not talking about media companies, although it makes no difference even if I'm referring to one, or an individual since in both situations the work doesn't belong to you. Heaven forbid that you are denied the things you so desire because of a pesky price tag.

I think it says more that you're unable to deny yourself the product they produce no matter the price hence being weak willed. Also, ballsack.

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Re:Showing ads to thieves by geminidomino · 2012-08-14 23:54 · Score: 1

I don't recall advocating that in my post and according to your hilarious baseless claim that my opinion is entirely dependent upon being paid by these media companies
You accuse downloaders of being "entitled" while ignoring the abusive behavior of those their downloading in spite of. That's drooling ignorance, at best, and outright hypocrisy, at worst.
Though if you want it couched in logical and ethical terms, I can do that. The "right" of monopoly over a creation, especially one that has no material components to express ownership of (you can't own electrons) is granted by law, not inherent in its creation. Those laws were created with consideration given to both sides of the transaction: the creator gets a limited monopoly on reproduction, and after that time is up, it enters the public domain as a societal cultural good.
They broke their side of the bargain with endless extensions, long before the internet came into play. So, while they may still be in the right, legally (not surprising with our court system so firmly nestled in the corporate colon), it's not unreasonable (nor is it universal, so don't bother telling me that you disagree) to make the ethical argument that the agreement has been invalidated by the content creators failing to upkeep their end of the bargain.

Why do you believe you have a right to someone else's work you ballsack?

Um... because I paid for it, whether or not their idiotic schizoid DRM system believes it or not?
Re:Showing ads to thieves by theArtificial · 2012-08-16 09:09 · Score: 0

You accuse downloaders of being "entitled" while ignoring the abusive behavior of those their downloading in spite of. That's drooling ignorance, at best, and outright hypocrisy, at worst.
I'm not accusing them, they are. Their actions speak louder than any point you're making. Media companies do not have a monopoly on music or software. You must be ignorant to the fact that individuals also create things. Perhaps you've heard of Minecraft? Perhaps you know about local bands who make a living by performing and selling what they make. It's theirs to choose how it is distributed, unless they signed a contract. I'd love to see you tell these musicians what to do with what they've made and see how well that goes over.

The "right" of monopoly over a creation, especially one that has no material components to express ownership of (you can't own electrons) is granted by law, not inherent in its creation. Those laws were created with consideration given to both sides of the transaction: the creator gets a limited monopoly on reproduction, and after that time is up, it enters the public domain as a societal cultural good.
I'm not defending these companies business model, i'm specifically addressing something you've failed to answer: the right to someone else's work. If you're pissed about copyright duration go talk to Disney or better yet go motivate your peers to actually vote and give a shit. We're not talking about media companies, specifically downloaders and their "rights" to other people's work.

They broke their side of the bargain with endless extensions, long before the internet came into play. So, while they may still be in the right, legally (not surprising with our court system so firmly nestled in the corporate colon), it's not unreasonable (nor is it universal, so don't bother telling me that you disagree) to make the ethical argument that the agreement has been invalidated by the content creators failing to upkeep their end of the bargain.
I'm a content creator, what right do you have to my work? Morally, ethically, and legally: ZERO. I'm not affiliated with a media company nor do I make use of DRM. Oh but I don't own it, because it's electrons... so you have a right to it? Imagine if you tried to argue this with a research paper, or someone's tax information.

Um... because I paid for it, whether or not their idiotic schizoid DRM system believes it or not?
We're not talking about people paying for it (especially you) because then they'd have the right to access/use/own it whatever. We wouldn't be having this "discussion" if you even once mentioned paying customers (isn't that redundant? they'd just be consumers if they didn't pay...). Nor is all media wrapped in DRM (we're not discussing DRM or Media Companies either) We're talking about people who download (without paying!), hence the RIGHT to something they have not paid for or even acquired legally, which is why I correctly used the term entitled. What next, you want to redefine some words because you don't like them?

TLDR: Let me summarize: Over time a Group of Companies create legal protections for their interests at the expense of everyone else. Creative individuals make things which fall under these laws, many of these individuals are not affiliated with these conglomerates, some individuals even get together to form companies/studios/etc. Some Downloaders aren't happy with the laws made by Group of Companies and download everything regardless of who or what created it, others simply do it because they can (for whatever reason, too expensive etc.). These downloaders feel entitled and their actions agree with this.

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News Flash.... by Lumpy · 2012-08-12 00:41 · Score: 2

You know they dont point a gun at you and force you to upgrade to get the ad's. I'm still running the ad-free older version and it works great.
If you dont like ad's dont upgrade.

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Re:News Flash.... by nurb432 · 2012-08-12 01:25 · Score: 2

New users will end up with the new version. Also they can, via EULA, forbid you to use older versions. Or even make them stop working.

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Re:News Flash.... by Lumpy · 2012-08-12 05:21 · Score: 1

"forbid you to use older versions."
EULAS have no power at all. Who cares. I'll be giving out the older version to friends and you can find the old versions all over the place. in fact it's easier now because of their tactics.

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Re:News Flash.... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 10:03 · Score: 0

ok, Violate the EULA on the newer version and be restricted from using the new version due to your breach of the EULA....woe is you.
Re:News Flash.... by nurb432 · 2012-08-12 14:53 · Score: 1

no, you could be in violation of the old version's eula. It can be changed at the whim of the owner of the software.( its not you ).
Like it or not, it's still a contract.
If i ever publish something again, the EULA will include some rather nasty options granted to me if its violated. AND will require physical registration with concrete acceptance of the contract before it will run so the 'nasties' will stand in court, as i realize the 'blind' acceptance of EULAs is a little shaky. ( talking the ones where by opening the box you agree, even before you see it )

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Re:News Flash.... by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:55 · Score: 1

Like it or not, it's still a contract.
No, it's not.

Surprise by Mike+Mentalist · 2012-08-12 00:42 · Score: 5, Insightful

I had an odd experience on the uTorrent forums recently.

I uploaded my own books to some torrent sites, and posted links to them. From the people on Demonoid, Pirate Bay, ISOHunt, and 4Chan, I got friendly and encouraging replies.

The admins on the uTorrent forum deleted the thread, and banned my account, saying that they didn't want spamming scum like me.

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Re:Surprise by Gordonjcp · 2012-08-12 00:49 · Score: 1

When you say "your own books", do you mean books you wrote yourself, that you hold copyright on?
This sounds like a good story worth an article.
Re:Surprise by Mike+Mentalist · 2012-08-12 01:17 · Score: 2

Yup, I'm an indie author, and I uploaded my own books to the torrent sites.
Before I made the post, I read the uTorrent forum rules, and made sure the images were small, etc.
I was quite shocked when I saw the message saying the thread was deleted!

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Re:Surprise by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:29 · Score: 0

uTorrent forums are pretty quick to censor and ban in my experience. Too bad for us.
Re:Surprise by Mike+Mentalist · 2012-08-12 01:41 · Score: 1

Hmmm, I guess that explains why there isn't much in the way of discussion there...!

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Re:Surprise by The+Mighty+Buzzard · 2012-08-12 02:18 · Score: 4, Insightful

That's pretty much expected given that the uTorrent forums aren't for file sharing but for discussion of the client. By strict definition, you were spamming.

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Re:Surprise by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:24 · Score: 0

Next time, try sharing something that's not pure garbage.
Re:Surprise by jones_supa · 2012-08-12 02:27 · Score: 2

Maybe I'm old school, but in my books spamming means posting unwanted advertisements. By my definition, he possibly was sending an offtopic message.
Re:Surprise by Drathos · 2012-08-12 02:52 · Score: 1

unwanted advertisement
To the uTorrent forums, that's exactly what it was.

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Re:Surprise by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:20 · Score: 0

If only they had some sort of forum for discussing unimportant things unrelated to utorrent. Like your antivirus of choice, or bragging about how fast your internet connection was. In sort, some kind of forum where users could chat.
Re:Surprise by ThePhilips · 2012-08-12 04:25 · Score: 1

Yes. When uTorrent auto-update broke my installation, the most informative posts I could find on the forums were "yeah, there were discussions about the auto-update problem, but they were all deleted by the admins."
I had impression, it is only allowed to discuss PEBKAC or ID10T type of problems. But something what might make uTorrent look bad is highly likely forbidden.
Also, in all my digging I pretty much never seen any response from developers or people in the know. Only the same clueless users like me, with lots of conjectures of why they might experience the problem, without any light in the end of the tunnel.

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Re:Surprise by wild_quinine · 2012-08-12 05:06 · Score: 5, Interesting

I had an odd experience on the uTorrent forums recently.
I uploaded my own books to some torrent sites, and posted links to them. From the people on Demonoid, Pirate Bay, ISOHunt, and 4Chan, I got friendly and encouraging replies.
When I finally got around to uploading my Creative Commons licensed book to usenet, and then noted this on a popular usenet index, it was also deleted as spam.
Apparently, this was because it was a dupe. Sure enough I did a search and there it was. The previous poster beat me to it by several weeks. The best part was that the copy that was already uploaded was better than mine. It included additional information and metadata (including a blurb!) that made it more useful to import into ebook libraries.
Fucking pirates, and their continually superior products.
Re:Surprise by The+Mighty+Buzzard · 2012-08-12 07:17 · Score: 1

Advertising is promoting a product, yeah? Sounds pretty much exactly like what he did, even if said product was at the price of $0.

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Re:Surprise by The+Mighty+Buzzard · 2012-08-12 07:26 · Score: 1

And still, spamming is not allowed. Note the severe lack of viagra ads.
If he'd had a question about something relating to distributing his book with bittorrent, fine. If he was ranting about how tracker.foo.se was giving him grief and asking for suggestions, fine. If he was talking about how it was cool that an author that wasn't him released his shat as a torrent, peachy.
But he wasn't. He was promoting his content. That is advertising. Nobody asked him to, so it was also unsolicited. Unsolicited advertising is spam.

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Re:Surprise by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 23:13 · Score: 0

Surely, if it's creative commons licensed, they aren't pirates? Or was this some strange CC license with no distribution?
Re:Surprise by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 00:46 · Score: 0

If the top pirate groups got together and started an online "storefront" for their warez, it would be light years ahead of even Amazon.

Halite by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 00:42 · Score: 1

If you want a client that doesn't rely on Python or Java.

Why not ? by Yvanhoe · 2012-08-12 00:43 · Score: 3, Funny

Why not ? Bittorrent is a great company, I am grateful to them for creating and opening their protocol. Obviously, I won't use their official client as I am allergic to advertisement, but if they manage to find clients for this kind of things and have a cash flow to finance R&D in bittorrent, kudos to them !

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Re:Why not ? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:09 · Score: 4, Informative

You're grateful to Bram Cohen. He designed the protocol and created the original client in 2001, and formed BitTorrent, Inc. with two other people in 2004. (They presumably wanted to monetise it.) The protocol has not really changed much since 2003, apart from some extensions such as DHT trackers and peer exchange for more reliable swarming. And neither of them originated from that company.
The company AFAIK hasn't done pretty much anything noteworthy apart from purchasing uTorrent in 2007 and rebranding it.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Shikaku · 2012-08-12 00:44 · Score: 5, Informative

Deluge or (Mac/Linux/BSD only) Transmission

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Lumpy · 2012-08-12 00:46 · Score: 3, Interesting

have they fixed the RSS feed filtering? because uTorrent was the ultimate killer for that one feature for ever.

I can point at an RSS feed and give it a list of filters to match, then it only downloads those in the filter stream PLUS checks to see if it already downloaded that file and skips it if it did.

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Another act which shows the difference by Stirling+Newberry · 2012-08-12 00:46 · Score: 3, Insightful

between free as in beer, and free as in speech.

You don't know what's actually in the free beer, and by the time you get it, you can't take the mouse droppings out.

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Re:Another act which shows the difference by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:22 · Score: 0

To take a literal approach to what you just said, what kind of beer to you drink? Do you grow all of your own barley and hops, then brew all of your own beer so that you know what is in it? Do you bottle up jugs of it to take with you when you go hang out with friends? How do your friends know what's in it?
Re:Another act which shows the difference by Stirling+Newberry · 2012-08-12 02:02 · Score: 2

The kind I brew, or the kind that charges me for the beer as opposed to the Swedish Bikini team advertising campaign.
If you aren't paying the natural cost of the thing, you aren't the customer, you are the product. This insight occurred to Carlo Lorenzini in 1883.

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Re:Another act which shows the difference by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:14 · Score: 0

You have to pay for everything in one way or another.
Re:Another act which shows the difference by VortexCortex · 2012-08-12 19:38 · Score: 1

You have to pay for everything in one way or another.
It must suck to get taxed for breathing air. Maybe you shouldn't have taken the advice to "Get your ass to Mars".
Re:Another act which shows the difference by fatphil · 2012-08-12 21:51 · Score: 1

How did the UK go from the 1900s smogs to the cleaner breathable air it has today? Thanks to government intervention and legislation. How did the government finance what it did? Through taxes.

So yes, if you're in a built up area, you do pay taxes for your air.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-12 00:50 · Score: 1, Insightful

Ditch torrents entirely. Usenet is much, much better, faster, and is really quite cheap. It is also completely legal for the downloader, though the moral implications are identical to torrenting. SABnzbd+ is fantastic.

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Re:hmm by maxwell+demon · 2012-08-12 00:50 · Score: 2

A pirate version of torrent? Is there a torrent for this? :-)

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by vlm · 2012-08-12 00:50 · Score: 1

What alternatives do you suggest?

Since the very first time I downloaded a torrent I've always used a command line downloader in a screen session. Now I use bittornado. I tried torrentflux but it seemed clunky compared to my screen solution. GUI seems a weird way to do it... your desktop has to stay logged in and powered up for days, maybe weeks, or you have to VNC to your server?

A quick apt-cache search torrent results in :
bittornado
ctorrent
deluge
ktorrent
rtorrent
torrentflux
unworkable

torrent clients seem to be in the position where mp3 players used to be a decade ago... a large selection of "different" programs that basically do everything the same.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by TheStonepedo · 2012-08-12 00:59 · Score: 2

Since rtorrent is a CLI program it can be run unattended in a screen instance instead of cluttering your taskbar/tray/what-have-you.
rtorrent also has Windows binaries available for download and can be installed on OS X via MacPorts.

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Wayne? by allo · 2012-08-12 01:04 · Score: 1

slow news day?

Re:Wayne? by Stirling+Newberry · 2012-08-12 02:03 · Score: 1

All the fast news is recuperating after being in the olympics.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by allo · 2012-08-12 01:05 · Score: 1

bitflu is nice.

Re:hmm by gl4ss · 2012-08-12 01:05 · Score: 2

A pirate version of torrent? Is there a torrent for this? :-)

http://www.unblockedpiratebay.com/index.php?loadurl=/search/utorrent/0/7/0#.UCeqAaOupVM

yeah.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:08 · Score: 0

Unfortunately it does not have a Windows port.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Gaygirlie · 2012-08-12 01:09 · Score: 1

What alternatives do you suggest?

I'm interested in this, too. Sure, I could just continue using uTorrent without updating it, nor would the ads really bother me anyways since I don't keep the window open, but if there's anything leaner than uTorrent then I see no reason to keep using it. My needs are as follow: must run on Windows, must support IP-blocklists, must allow me to force encryption on and reject all unencrypted connections, and must allow me to quickly adjust speed limits. So far all the commenters are only suggesting Linux-clients.

Pirate uTorrent by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:10 · Score: 0

Why not? Put the shoe on the other foot and pirate the paid version. It's still a really good torrent client, in spite of the bullshit that keeps getting added to it.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:11 · Score: 1

Deluge

Missed opportunity... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:13 · Score: 0

... the client should have automatically torrented each of the "offers".

There could be no schadenfraude better than a lot of pirates bursting through their monthly data caps and having to pay $1,000 in excess fees!

a good host file is a wonderful thing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:16 · Score: 0

I use uTorrent for it's easy to use network proxy setup feature. But with this announcement, my reaction is, "Meh, I will block ads with my host file."

Disable autoupdate? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:21 · Score: 0

I believe
Preferences / Advanced / btapps.auto_update_btinstalls: true > false
will do the job.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Hadlock · 2012-08-12 01:22 · Score: 1

Azureus still has the "classic interface"

...it's just buried... deeply. Very deeply. As in, I have to google to figure out how to turn it on because it's not immediately obvious how to do it from the GUI. Once you turn off all the "Vuze" cruft, Azureus still makes for a very good client.

I'm using Deluge to great effect, moreso since I finally setup an atom-based file server and you can log in to it remotely from another pc/laptop, either through the binary client, or the web interface. deluge-torrent.org

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post here by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:43 · Score: 0

4 chan ya say eh how would you like to get your own website and then added to say my own search engine
i run the united hackers association and figure if your adding to all those places go for it and add to everything

Re:post here by Mike+Mentalist · 2012-08-12 02:18 · Score: 2

Well, I already have a website/blog - http://michaelcargill.wordpress.com/

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by number11 · 2012-08-12 01:43 · Score: 2

What alternatives do you suggest?

I'm interested in this, too. Sure, I could just continue using uTorrent without updating it, nor would the ads really bother me anyways since I don't keep the window open, but if there's anything leaner than uTorrent then I see no reason to keep using it. My needs are as follow: must run on Windows, must support IP-blocklists, must allow me to force encryption on and reject all unencrypted connections, and must allow me to quickly adjust speed limits.

qBittorrent. I switched to that when uTorrent started getting funky. It's the closest one I could find to what uTorrent used to be. It's cross-platform (Win/Linux/OSX/OS2/BSD), OSS, and meets all your criteria. (Until I started looking, I hadn't realized that it had native support for blocklists, I've been using PeerBlock for that.)

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by amiga3D · 2012-08-12 01:47 · Score: 1

I'm also loving Transmission. It functions great on my linux and mac computers. Occasionally a pop up appears asking for a donation but that's about it for annoyances. I don't see a problem with uTorrent running ads or a program occasionally asking for a donation. It's free and if you don't like it you can always use an alternative.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 01:54 · Score: 0

This! I just leave mine running in a screen session, and I hardly ever check it. I just put torrent files in the right directory and everything happens magically.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by CrashandDie · 2012-08-12 01:55 · Score: 1

I'll recommend ruTorrent, a web frontend for rTorrent. I've been using it as the main interface for my seedbox. No database, no bullshit, just a nice, clean, user interface with great plugins available.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Dunbal · 2012-08-12 01:56 · Score: 1

Yeah this. Better yet if you're a windows user, get some virtualization software - virtual box and the like. Make yourself a linux virtual machine, download your stuff there using rtorrent, swap your stuff over to windows to use it...

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by nashv · 2012-08-12 01:57 · Score: 1

Since I use Windows and Linux, I prefer Deluge.

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More legitimate use by dirk · 2012-08-12 02:00 · Score: 3, Insightful

I see this as a good thing. First, as long as the ads aren't obnoxious, it will get a little money for the uTorrent team. Second, it will help encourage legitimate use of torrents. One of the knock on torrents and why they are so often throttled and blocked is that they are a tool for piracy. While there are currently legitimate uses, I would suspect that 95% or more of usage is for piracy. If these ads expose more people to legitimate torrent content and help get the legitimate use up, that is a good thing all around.

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Re:More legitimate use by Nyder · 2012-08-12 02:16 · Score: 1

I see this as a good thing. First, as long as the ads aren't obnoxious, it will get a little money for the uTorrent team. Second, it will help encourage legitimate use of torrents. One of the knock on torrents and why they are so often throttled and blocked is that they are a tool for piracy. While there are currently legitimate uses, I would suspect that 95% or more of usage is for piracy. If these ads expose more people to legitimate torrent content and help get the legitimate use up, that is a good thing all around.
First off, how do the Ads make them money? click thru or by people viewing them?
And um, I'm 100% sure you are just throwing out 95% like you are an expert. Are you? No?
STFU.

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Re:More legitimate use by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:47 · Score: 0

"A little money"--they already have $15 million a year. The problem isn't the shoestring budget necessary to develop the client and protocol, it's the corporate bloat associated with trying to become some perverse content provider company.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Psicopatico · 2012-08-12 02:14 · Score: 1

It's nearly ten years I use MLDonkey which - despite the name - supports the bittorrent protocol.
It has a server-client architecture, you can put the server remotely and access it via CLI or web interface or via some third party front-ends.

So far it served me very well.

Elseway for the quick download Opera's integrated client works. It's rudimetary and very basic, but it works.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:25 · Score: 1

Since it's the ACT of downloading pirated material that is illegal in many (most of those that have laws regarding it, afaik) countries, not the source, your statement deserves today's award for unintentionally leading people into ignorance. If it's illegal to download by any other means you can bet your ass it is illegal to get off usenet as well.

Surprise, really? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:26 · Score: 1

You need to exercise some basic common sense. The uTorrent forums are only for discussion of, and assistance with, uTorrent. There is nothing remotely like a section for content releases.

Torrent (for Windows)
Torrent Plus
Developers
Torrent Mac
Torrent Linux
Apps
Non-English Torrent

I find it hard to believe that a legitimate author would consider posting their work in any of these let alone think that they're doing anything other than leaving a stinking pile of spam.

Re:Surprise, really? by Mike+Mentalist · 2012-08-12 02:42 · Score: 1

Yes, surprise.
There's also a 'Chat' section, which contains non-uTorrent related threads such as 'AntiVirus Of Choice?'

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Teun · 2012-08-12 02:34 · Score: 3, Insightful

As far as I know downloading is at least in most of Europe not illegal, it's the sharing or making available that infringes IP rights.

Because the usenet server is usually seen like a proxy they are generally left alone.

(Beware of the words most of, usual and general)

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Try Qbittorrent by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:37 · Score: 0

Try Qbittorrent same feature open source , compiled for most platforms, actively updated and no bullshit

http://www.qbittorrent.org

Re:Try Qbittorrent by ThePhilips · 2012-08-12 04:15 · Score: 2

[...] actively updated and no bullshit
No B.S - 100% yes.
Actively updated - only on *NIX, because there is a lack of Windows developers. Recently there were even discussions about dropping Windows version because there were nobody who can make a Windows build. They found who can build, but Windows specific issues often remain unresolved due to lack of developers.
Shameless plug from an unaffiliated /. user: Windows developers with Qt experience, please help improve the qBittorent!

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Re:Try Qbittorrent by Reziac · 2012-08-13 04:37 · Score: 1

[goes off, looks at buglist]
What a shameless lack of major known bugs, too... :D Tho seems to me if you just concentrate on doing the one job it's meant to do, you also fail to introduce weird bugs related to the added crapware. Gee, what a concept!
Not a dev, but dl'd to try... if nothing else I can apply my fearsome repute as "the beta tester who can break anything!"

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Another step away from the roots as "Torrent" by Havenwar · 2012-08-12 02:39 · Score: 1

Torrent it used to be called, lightweight and fast and non-intrusive. That's why I started using it, and probably many others as well. As it got more bloated I could have abandoned it, but then I've got more than a few extra gigabytes of ram these days and my cpu doesn't exactly hiccup at any extra work it does, so... I don't really care it's grown a bit. It's still within my comfort zone just for being simple and doing what I need done.

So they're going to start showing sponsored content now? Fine with me. I have never, ever used the search function in their client. I always find my torrents on third party sites, and they are either sent by magnet link directly to the client, or torrent files put in a folder that the client is watching. I only ever directly interact with the client once every now and then when I open it up to check on the progress on something, and clear out any completed downloads from the last week while I'm there. Ads won't be in my view for long enough to disturb me. I am not sure i'll even notice them.

That being said, I'd consider moving to another client... if there was really any serious competitors for windows that did things better. Not as good, better. I have tried a few, seems to be six of one, half a dozen of the other. They get the job done, and any particular bells and whistles they offer, I don't need. All I need is a download queue, good connection settings to work around my crap router, and the ability to keep scanning a folder for new torrent files. If it's got that, I'm golden. But that doesn't mean I'll do actual work to switch to such a client unless uTorrent fucks up completely... and they'd have to get pretty annoying to do that. Popups, or some such, or degrading the actual basic functionality of the program.

I bet most users feel pretty much the same... a few people on here shout loudly about change, maybe a few people will try something else out, but if it's work, it's not worth it. Not for something that spends most of its time working in the background, unseen, anyway.

Re:Another step away from the roots as "Torrent" by Havenwar · 2012-08-12 02:40 · Score: 1

And of course slashdot can't handle the letter "mju", so woooo for slashdot!

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:45 · Score: 0

Plenty, take your pick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients

ps. if you want to avoid the sort of crap this article is about, select one which is free software

PeerBlock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 02:49 · Score: 0

Who runs torrents without PeerBlock? Once the uTorrent ad servers end up on there, if they aren't already, you could upgrade to your heart's content.

Or if they use DNS, a simple hosts file entry will make them go bye-bye.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Hatta · 2012-08-12 02:51 · Score: 2

Rtorrent can be controlled by XMLRPC, so people have written web front ends to it. So if you like a clicky GUI, you can use your browser. RUTorrent is probably the best one going.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by dcherryholmes · 2012-08-12 02:52 · Score: 1

There is also http://code.google.com/p/rtgui/, which is what I use.

It is always the same story by Golden_Rider · 2012-08-12 02:56 · Score: 5, Insightful

Devs create small, easy to use program which does the one job it was designed to do very well.
Lots of people start using the program because it is good and lightweight and not annoying.
Devs think "oh, our program is very good, but we cannot simply leave it as it is, we need to have MORE FEATURES".
More features get put in, making users angry, because they use the program for its ONE job it initially was designed to do, not for anything else, because they already have OTHER programs which do those jobs better anyway.
Devs think "oh, time to make some money".
Ads get put in, plus "oh you can buy the premium version".
Users leave.

First Azureus, which transformed from a simple bittorrent client to a "your personal multimedia database/video streaming/community" monstrosity called "Vuze". Now uTorrent goes down the same road, from a small, lightweight "I can only download and nothing else and that is my whole selling point" bittorrent client to a "you can stream video and organize your multimedia experience for all your mobile gadgets" monster and now they add advertising on top of it, but oh, you can buy the premium version without advertising.

Thanks, but no. I'll just move on to another free and lightweight bittorrent client, because that's why I came from Azureus(Vuze) to uTorrent in the first place. But now you turned into Vuze, too. It's not as if there aren't any other clients around, uTorrent really does not have any distinguishing features, so I just kept using it our of pure laziness to install something else and put up with the added bloat instead. But when devs really think their bittorrent client is awesome enough to make users put up with advertising, it's time to move on.

Re:It is always the same story by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 03:22 · Score: 3, Interesting

Sometimes the developers want to move out the the parents basement, sometime the parents want them out. They have devoted a considerable amount of time developing a product and so attempt to monetize it. Seems reasonable to me.
The lazy will stay, those willing to pay will stay and although you don't want extra services that have to be paid for the existing services are quite poor and so success in that market is quite possible and those that want that will stay.
I'm thinking they might not miss you when you go.
ps. I left long since, but it doesn't preclude understanding.
Re:It is always the same story by Golden_Rider · 2012-08-12 05:39 · Score: 2

Sometimes the developers want to move out the the parents basement, sometime the parents want them out. They have devoted a considerable amount of time developing a product and so attempt to monetize it. Seems reasonable to me.
I only have problems when devs write a small lightweight program for one specific function (downloading files) and then, when the program does that job perfectly fine and does not really need improvement except for bugfixes, they add on function after function, hire another dev or two to write more bloat and then one day they post on their website "sorry people, writing all that stuff costs money, so we now have to put advertising into our program". The program was fine, there was no need to add more functions nobody is interested in, especially if doing so costs so much time/money that you need advertising.
Re:It is always the same story by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 11:55 · Score: 0

Next thing you know, they will needlessly change the UI and, every six weeks, release a new version for every minor change that they make.
Re:It is always the same story by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-14 03:45 · Score: 0

Bittorrent isn't a market, it is the exact opposite of a market. It is a platform for the free distribution of information and ideas.
This is why all these attempts monetize Bittorrent will fail, it is because they are an anathema to the whole purpose of Bittorrent.
Yes these developers but a lot of their time into this project. Was it ever on the understanding of a profit seeking intent? No. Have the users ever indicated a desire to purchase a product? No. Are there free alternatives that provide the exact same service? Yes.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 03:13 · Score: 0, Insightful

Yay! Wow, it used to be so hard before....you know, when you had to click three times to get something done. But now, heh, we have the TERMINAL! In only 325 short typed characters later, you too can stare at a screen full of white text on black scroll by. No need for red(isn't done yet), green(your torrent is finished) visual indicators...we're all blind from terminal shit anyway!

Please give us a suggestion that doesn't feel like it was penned 20 years ago.

I bet you think Android tablets would be way better with a terminal don't you?

I find those who sling GUI around like it is an insult to be pathetically entrenched fan-boys who refuse to admit their choice of computing has been vastly outpaced.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by bjourne · 2012-08-12 03:17 · Score: 1

Come on.. Do you really think it is so bad that they are asking for some compension for, in your own words, their "awesome" software? If you can't stomach the ads, the premium version retails for $24.95. Damn cheapskates.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 03:23 · Score: 0

qbittorrent is an open source clone of utorrent
rtorrent is a terminal-based client
KTorrent is a more heavyweight KDE client

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 03:45 · Score: 0

It not illegal to download, it is illegal to distribute copyrighted material (without permission, of course).

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by porjo · 2012-08-12 03:50 · Score: 2

qBittorrent - open source, regular updates, Win/Mac/Linux

sudo apt-get purge utorrent by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 03:57 · Score: 0

My opt-out:
sudo apt-get purge utorrent

Simple. Effective. There are plenty of other solutions.
I'd be surprises if there wasn't a centralized ad server that could be easily blocked too.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:06 · Score: 0

Of note: qBittorent is also looking for developers! especially Windows developers!!

Started using it myself few month ago after uTorrent botchered itself during auto-update (dowload speeds went from stable 1-2.4MB/s to 30-100KB/s; one torrent started off a magnet link hasn't even started downloading after 2+ days).

qB is occasionally flaky and rough on edges but otherwise it is precise all what I used to love in uT before it went bananas.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Nimey · 2012-08-12 04:16 · Score: 3, Funny

As an old Usenetter, fuck you.

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Stop using utorrent by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:26 · Score: 0

Ever tried using utorrent while running PeerBlock (http://www.peerblock.com/). You would be surprised at the number of questionable servers it tries to talk to while in use. If you run the same torrent on another application, you don't see anything even remotely similar.

I stopped using utorrent, after it tried to talk to a German server and that server attempted to scan every single port on my PC. My firewall was active and the log had that server attempting to access every single TCP and UDP port incrementally for over 5 hrs.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by jftitan · 2012-08-12 04:40 · Score: 1

I do nearly exactly what you recommend.

I have VMWare workstations running RHEL, all running SMBs so files can be shared across the networks. I eventually ended up customizing my favorite VM RHEL, running rtorrent, shared the files and torrents folders over the network, and whenever I want to download anything, I save the torrent to the network folder.

basic, and I don't need no stinking features. I accidently updated my utorrent in a Win7 to utorrent 3.1.x, while I do like it, and I can configure out everything down to just basics, I still don't enjoy the idea of ads (whether related or not ads of torrents) I already filter ALL ad content from the websites I frequent. I don't need another aspect to filter.

Thanks to suggestions above, I can downgrade.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Emetophobe · 2012-08-12 04:45 · Score: 1

I switched to qBittorrent. It's open source, uses Qt4, and it looks similar to older versions of uTorrent.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by webheaded · 2012-08-12 04:51 · Score: 1

Usenet doesn't always have everything. Torrents are more diverse than Usenet and you occasionally have to resort to them to get what you want. So while you're entirely right that Usenet is better in almost all aspects, you will have to use torrents occasionally.

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Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 04:53 · Score: 0

It's turtles all the way down.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 05:01 · Score: 0

Add DynDNS into the mix and you just as easily manage your torrents while away from home. The catch here is that, often, you must choose between power and GUI (a choice you don't have to make with utorrent). The rtorrent CLI is as powerful as any other client but is not for people afraid of config files.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-12 05:02 · Score: 1

Nope. It's not even illegal in the US. Almost all methods of distributing copyrighted material require downloaders to upload, but not usenet. You can leech to your heart's content, and you are breaking no laws. Copyright infringement is not legally theft, and there is no equivalent (yet) of "receiving stolen property." Infringing on copyright is providing someone a copy they are not entitled to. There is only one criminal in that transaction, not two.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-12 05:04 · Score: 1

Anyone who subscribes to a usenet provider because of my comment is likely to never post a single thing, and therefore not impact you one bit.

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Pure, unadulterated FUD. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 05:13 · Score: 0

The torrent protocol is not now, nor has it ever been, illegal and you can twist words any way you want and you are still trying to mislead people and spread FUD.

I witnessed riaa trolls doing the same thing in the early mp3 days and we all know how that worked out.

Now quit wasting everyone's time with your trolling and do something that's actually of value to society with what's left of your pathetic life.

Or drop dead.

The choice is yours.

uTorrent is the new Winamp. by Emetophobe · 2012-08-12 05:20 · Score: 5, Insightful

I love Slashdot, but all the comments below are pretty standard bashing we've come to expect.

Have you even used uTorrent recently? 5 years ago you didn't even need to install uTorrent, the executable was the entire program. It was extremely lightweight and fast.
Now they display ads everywhere, you have to uncheck multiple toolbars and crapware in the installer, and its bloated (I don't need a media player built into my torrent client).

This could actually provide more legitimacy to the protocol.

How does putting toolbars in the installer and displaying ads all over your product provide legitimacy? It's just developers trying to cash in.

It's Winamp all over again. The developers made a product that people liked, got bought out, and the new overlords monetised it and ruined it.

Re:uTorrent is the new Winamp. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 08:25 · Score: 0

Parent AC here, and yes I use uTorrent frequently. An older version, which has none of the bloat that you speak of. That was not the argument I was making though.
To rephrase: It's good that the company founded by the designers of the bittorrent protocol are going to try and make a profit selling ads for torrents. Instead of the usual in-app ads for online casino's, match makers, or any other shady websites willing to throw them a buck. If this catches on, maybe we can all help pay for those 'Game of Thrones' seasons we will want to see made.
Re:uTorrent is the new Winamp. by djnforce9 · 2012-08-15 06:48 · Score: 1

To be fair, Winamp at lets you cut out pretty much all the bloat during the install process (most of which is related to the media library). Not only that but the Pro features are redundant. You can rip CD's using the disk writer plugin (assuming you have the proper codec) and play all types of videos through Directshow (again, assuming you have the codec installed).
uTorrent 3.0 unfortunately does not let you skip installing all the uneeded extras although you can hide most of them once in the application.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-12 05:51 · Score: 1

I'll take 95% of the variety and 0% of the liability, seems an apt tradeoff. And at least with Usenet, it's either there or it's not. I don't have to deal with 1 seed on an obscure movie that started seeding two years ago. I get full speed.

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TIXATI by Swarley · 2012-08-12 05:58 · Score: 1

The Tixati bittorrent client is excellent. Free, no ads or tool bars. Definitely worth checking out.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 06:23 · Score: 0

This, although Transmission doesn't seem to give the possibility to select the uploading port.
QOS related stuff.
I still use it on some torrent though, otherwise qBittorrent.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 06:38 · Score: 0

http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/

Transmission for Windows. Works just like the Linux client.

Jackass by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 06:43 · Score: 0

Thanks for ruining the thread for me.

Now there is no point in scrolling down with anticipatory excitement on whether this was going to be the best thing in the world (followed by trolls and oddly out of place +5 insightfuls) or a horrible travesty that can be blamed on corporations or politicians (followed by trolls and oddly out of place +5 insightfuls)

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by blacke4dawn · 2012-08-12 06:46 · Score: 0

There is an UNofficial Windows port, it's primarily the QT interface but his working a daemon version as well. http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/

qBittorrent by Gravis+Zero · 2012-08-12 06:51 · Score: 3, Informative

get it: "The qBittorrent project aims to provide a Free Software alternative to torrent."

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by blacke4dawn · 2012-08-12 06:53 · Score: 0

Transmission has never had RSS support, that has always been done through third-party software.

Personally, I think FlexGet is superior to uTorrents RSS handling.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by knifeyspooney · 2012-08-12 07:18 · Score: 1

Deluge is available for Windows.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 07:20 · Score: 0

I dropped Azererus and Ares like a ton of bricks when they pulled this. Sad, because uTorrent was always awesome.

What alternatives do you suggest?

I say to everyone, use whatever floats your boat, but from someone who still uses Azererus (i.e. Vuze), it doesn't have to be as bad as you describe. While I do occasionally see forced subscription downloads (and a play button next to video files if I look at the detailed view of a torrent), I don't see almost any of the other content that everyone else is complaining about.

It's pretty simple, use classic view. With the exception of some minor cosmetic tweaks and a very minor variation on behavior, it still looks and behaves extremely close to version 2.5. Here are instructions blatantly ripped from the Vuze forums.

Not enamored with the Vuze interface? Want to go back to the good ol' Azureus 2.5 Classic interface?

Options -> Interface -> Start
Click 'Show' beside 'Display Vuze UI Chooser'

Concerned about memory issues? When one interface is loaded, the other is not loaded whatsoever. If you switch into Classic mode, nothing from the Vuze interface loads but the embedded media player and the 'Friends' plugin

These can be switched off at:
Options -> Plugins.
Uncheck 'azemp'/'Embedded Media Player'
Uncheck 'azbuddy'/'Friends'

Want the Vuze Advanced UI back?

In the 'View' menu, select 'Advanced List.'
Or, go to 'My Library' and click the 'View' toggle in the upper-right of the window (if your Vuze window isn't wide enough, you won't see this item).

To find the options:
On Windows/Linux: Tools -> Options
On Mac: Vuze -> Preferences

Also, you can alter the uTorrent interface to revert back to 2.0.4-ish. I don't use uTorrent, but from the forum comments, it's not as good as Vuze in reproducing a classic interface, but it's easier to switch. Just a single click in the options menu. Many still don't like it, but I suggest checking it out before making a final judgement.

It's simple really by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 07:44 · Score: 0

Use utorrent to download utorrent plus.

Results not relevant by dave562 · 2012-08-12 08:11 · Score: 1

Unless they have categories for "warez" and "pr0n", I can guarantee that the feature results are completely irrelevant for what 95% of the world uses bitTorrent for.

Re:Results not relevant by Krneki · 2012-08-12 18:55 · Score: 1

Unless they have categories for "warez" and "pr0n", I can guarantee that the feature results are completely irrelevant for what 95% of the world uses bitTorrent for.
And this is different from the rest of Internet in what way? Warez, pron, spam and viruses are 95% of the Internet traffic.

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Thank you by dell623 · 2012-08-12 08:15 · Score: 1

Disabled automatic updates. Not sure what the point is anyway, the last few updates seem to have added useless bloat, all the important functions have been around a while: scheduling, bandwidth controls, downloading individual files etc.

rtorrent by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 08:29 · Score: 0

If you value your sanity stay away from this client due to instabilities and configuration headaches.

Alpha version by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 09:05 · Score: 0

I'm using their alpha version, doesn't contains ads and I updated it quite recently.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 09:10 · Score: 0

Deluge or (Mac/Linux/BSD only) Transmission

There's a Windows port of Transmission now, actually.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/

Just need the Ads server IP and by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 09:12 · Score: 0

You just need the Ads Server's IP and block it in your Host File.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 10:00 · Score: 0

Not strictly correct.

You still are "infringing copyright" and you can still be taken to court over it.

The difference, is you aren't distributing copyright. Distributing means commercial. And commercial infringement is the one with the statutory damages.

A court will still convict you of copyright infringement, but without the statutory fines (the ones that make it 150,000 dollars per song) you will get charged 10 dollars per song. Which wouldn't make it worth the court time. So you are still breaking the law, just a less severe law (to the point where the copyright holders wont bother "getting" you over it).

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by ScottyKUtah · 2012-08-12 11:08 · Score: 1

I use kTorrent in Kubuntu. A couple of my favorite features incudes bandwidth scheduling, automatic updating of my blocklist, and no crapware or installing of other programs.

I've run into a couple of private torrent sites that didn't work with kTorrent, so I switched over to Transmission for those. Everything else I run kTorrent.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by ScottyKUtah · 2012-08-12 11:14 · Score: 1

Usenet is great for just browsing the various binaries if you are not sure what you looking for. I've found more obscure albums because of usenet. The news provider I use is $10 for 25GB, and I have as much time as I want to burn through the 25 GB. Works for me. Some weeks I'll burn through it, other times a month will go by without downloading anything. I run newsrover (windows program) using WINE on Kubuntu & opensuse. That way I can take advantage of SSH encryption, and still take advantage of the built in graphics viewer.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 11:48 · Score: 0

i like clicking on things. and i like the pretty graph that shows me download speed. utorrent pretty much nailed it when it came to making a bittorrent client. (remember how awful the jave base clients were? (are))
rTorrent... hmmm. i just looked it up. looks good, thanks for the recommendation. it's wikipedia page says it may be able seed three times faster than other clients. how would it be able to do that? (good code?)

The cure: The Original Bittorrent client by Cinnaman · 2012-08-12 12:30 · Score: 1

uTorrent just seems to have become a clone of "BitTorrent" somewhere along the line. BitTorrent looks and works identically except it's bug and ad-free. Problem solved.

Going back to the version 2.x uTorrents is the other fix.

Re:The cure: The Original Bittorrent client by mister_playboy · 2012-08-12 14:38 · Score: 1

No, it's the other way around. Bittorrent became a clone of uTorrent when BT.inc bought the uTorrent program.
BT was originally an open source program and the last version from that lineage was v5.2
BT.inc has talked about splitting BT and uTorrent apart again, having BT aimed at new users with a simplified interface.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 12:44 · Score: 0

What's the point when there is an equivalent that is just every bit as good as uTorrent ? Windows is the only platform where you can't get something that is both free as in beer and free as in speech for torrents, well until now because there's been a port of Transmission to Windows, still not stable enough though.

We linux users have the choice between Deluge, Transmission, rTorrent etc.
Mac users also have Transmission and could probably run rtorrent through macports.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by bluegreen997 · 2012-08-12 13:09 · Score: 1

Not saying this is not a valid option, but it is a lot of overhead just to get a decent torrent client.

MEH by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 15:14 · Score: 0

What a surprise, comanies need money to survive, and the irony of a product whose main purpose to ensure other companies dont get money (yes get off your highhorse there are some linux iso's etc that are legit).

Whilst you all make yourselves feel better telling yourself that downloading isnt stealing etc, content creators (especially the quality ones) will become less and less common. unless of course Youtube videos of cats is your idea of high quality content, then disregard.

you dont have the right to decide how a company markets and makes available its product! when you grow up you might understand that.

Slashdot: where did the intelligent people go?

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Lumpy · 2012-08-12 22:40 · Score: 1

So that means they have NOT fixed that glaring omission. That makes transmission pretty useless in comparison.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by progician · 2012-08-12 22:49 · Score: 2

I find those who sling GUI around like it is an insult to be pathetically entrenched fan-boys who refuse to admit their choice of computing has been vastly outpaced.

Dude, calm down. Listen, and maybe you can learn something. If programs (not applications, solutions and other foggy business terms) are designed to do a single business it has certain value. For example, given the diverse amount of devices floating around, if you would like to get a widely adopted software, you should implement it on the most common interface available. That's the terminal. It is available on virtually every operating system, every device. Fucking old tech, but it works and it is quick and easy to implement.

Also good stuff about the CLI interface that if you make a consistent format for your information output on the terminal, you can easily add GUI layers that uses the CLI program in/out terminals, but isn't tied to the executable thus it can be separately developed (no unintended security bug introduced, which is a good thing), can be used remotely (many torrent clients today is capable of running a simple web service for controlling the process too, but one of the most accessible remote control technology, like ssh and friends can also be used), and most importantly, it can be easily automatized for the user's own purposes. You know, if you use programs instead of application, you will realize that these programs can be used for other purposes than the usual use-case. A torrent client can be used as a content updater between creative groups used along with some basic version tracking information, let's say. The problem with "apps" (program+GUI) the problem is that the GUI is rarely and hardly customizable once it's burned in to the executable. With a good CLI support however, you can embed the program in to an entire ecosystem to your liking.

Learn and watch patiently: command line programs and remotely operated web interface/scripted GUI for fancy look is at the heart of modern computing.

"Run, Forrest: RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 22:57 · Score: 0

From this challenge to you (as you always do, runner) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965295

APK

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:09 · Score: 0

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965295

"Run, Forrest - RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-12 23:07 · Score: 0

From this challenge put to you (as you always do) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965087

APK

Re:"Run, Forrest - RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:10 · Score: 0

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Re:"Run, Forrest - RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:05 · Score: 0

Hello Alex http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046181&cid=40978835
Re:"Run, Forrest - RUN!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:32 · Score: 0

Can't you disprove apk's points on benefits of hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972113 ?

So you support banning guns? by SmallFurryCreature · 2012-08-13 00:02 · Score: 1

Because the majority use for guns is NOT home defence. Bring this to your local NRA meeting. Good luck surviving the hail of gunfire.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by baalzebub · 2012-08-13 00:05 · Score: 1

There's a Windows port. Just go to the addon section on their website. It's there and I'm running it right now. Works flawlessly.

Transmission for Windows by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 00:51 · Score: 0

I highly recommend Transmission for windows. http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/

I have been using it for a while now as a alliterative to uTorrent and so far its been awesome!

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 00:54 · Score: 0

Good program. Thanks.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 01:56 · Score: 0

Fake comment. Thanks.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:09 · Score: 0

What's fake about it? I posted and meant it. Go away troll.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:10 · Score: 0

It it an undisputed fact that you are APK, because you always reply to your own posts like this.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:13 · Score: 0

That's debatable. You being a troll isn't. You are.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:27 · Score: 0

In the extremely unlikely event that you're not an APK sockpuppet (even though I can tell from your post timestamps that you almost certainly are), you need to understand that APK has been the most prolific troll and spammer on Slashdot for several years, and has been spamming and trolling a multitude of other web forums, mailing lists, and newsgroups for at least 15 years. Use Google and educate yourself. Don't get fooled again.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:28 · Score: 0

Why'd you run from this then troll http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965295 ?

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 02:30 · Score: 0

Why'd you run from this then troll http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209 ?

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:06 · Score: 0

Hello sockpuppet.

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:11 · Score: 0

Goodbye troll. Keep running from this http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:36 · Score: 0

Hello again sockpuppet.

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 03:37 · Score: 0

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're not APK?

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 04:15 · Score: 0

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Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 04:17 · Score: 0

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:30 · Score: 1

My Android does have a terminal and, yes, it does improve it and I install it on each device I obtain. (ConnectBot as it happens but see also ADB shell)

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:34 · Score: 1

Yep. RSS not built-in? Not a problem with CLI. Want to scrape a web page? Pull links from emails? There's your CLI again.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:38 · Score: 1

My rss feed scripts are 60 lines long and that's with a lot of comments and cruft that should really be removed. For non-technical users that's not much help but it means that transmission is far from useless.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:48 · Score: 1

I gave up on Vuze when I was still using win2k and the latest update required WinXP for the crufty interface (but not for the classic). The second time it happened, I decided to forego digging through the registry (or wherever it stores it settings) to change it back to classic and switched to transmission (which also happened to have the advantage of running on my DVR) so that I could actually turn my workstation off.

I've been through XP and 7 since then but never looked back at Vuze. Get a clue and stop ruining good software, idiots.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by Richy_T · 2012-08-13 05:50 · Score: 1

Forgot to include that on those upgrades, the crufty interface was enabled by default, thus breaking a perfectly functional install, not for security reasons or other benefit to myself but purely in an attempt to "monetize" the product.

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 09:42 · Score: 0

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Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 09:51 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 10:18 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 10:24 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 10:56 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 10:58 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 10:59 · Score: 0

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Re:Oh hai, Alex! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:01 · Score: 0

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URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:02 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:05 · Score: 0

You're losing n' copying my style. Face the music here http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:07 · Score: 0

You're losing n' copying my style. Face the music here http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:09 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:10 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:11 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:12 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:12 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:36 · Score: 0

Hello Alex http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046181&cid=40978835
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:37 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:39 · Score: 0

Alex? Wrong. You're losing, copying my style. Face the music http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:40 · Score: 0

Alex? Wrong. You're losing, copying my style. Face the music http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:41 · Score: 0

Alex? Wrong. You're losing, copying my style. Face the music http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:55 · Score: 0

Hello Alex http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046181&cid=40978835
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:56 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:07 · Score: 0

Face the music (scared troll? Or just too weak?) http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965209
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:10 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:15 · Score: 0

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Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:28 · Score: 0

Can't you disprove apk's points on benefits of hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972113 ?
Re:URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:29 · Score: 0

Can't you disprove apk's points on benefits of hosts files http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972113 ??

URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:03 · Score: 0

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URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:04 · Score: 0

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URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 11:04 · Score: 0

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-13 12:10 · Score: 1

Jesus Christ that's expensive. I was going to recommend Astraweb, but it looks like you are probably using them already. You're doing yourself a disservice for not buying in bulk.

You're paying 40c per GB. 180GB at $25 is 13.4c per GB, and 1 TB at $50 is 5c per GB.

Also, I find Usenet to be terrible without binsearch.info, and amazing with nzbmatrix.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-13 12:13 · Score: 1

I wasn't aware of that, if it is true. Do you have a link to back that up? I'm not being an asshole, I'm genuinely curious. It may make sense, and be a part of the reason that pirated CDs for personal use are sometimes confiscated by customs (from luggage, obviously there's good reason to confiscate from parcels).

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URL for URL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:22 · Score: 0

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Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:30 · Score: 0

Hello Alex http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046211&cid=40979293

Re:Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:35 · Score: 0

As I suspected. You can't disprove apk's points on hosts. You fail.
Re:Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:36 · Score: 0

You can't disprove apk's points on hosts file benefits. You fail.
Re:Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:46 · Score: 0

Apk beats a troll on hosts. No surprise there. Better luck next time troll.
Re:Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:49 · Score: 0

apk wins against a troll on hosts files. No surprise there. You fail troll.
Re:Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:51 · Score: 0

Troll fail detected. Can't you disprove apk's points on hosts file benefits?

Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:31 · Score: 0

Hello Alex http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046211&cid=40979293

Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:37 · Score: 0

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Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:38 · Score: 0

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Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:39 · Score: 0

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you fail troll by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:47 · Score: 0

apk defeats another troll on hosts files benefits. Why am I not surprised?

Sock detected by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:49 · Score: 0

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Sock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:51 · Score: 0

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Re:Sock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:57 · Score: 0

Troll, since you can't disprove apk's points on hosts file benefits you failed.

Sock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:52 · Score: 0

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Sock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 12:54 · Score: 0

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Sock by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 13:08 · Score: 0

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Re:Troll by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 13:12 · Score: 0

Wait, I thought we were talking about OpenGL? What the fuck is a "hosts files"? What day is it? What year is it? Is this real life? Who the hell are you?

Oh god, I think it's happening again!!!!!

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by ScottyKUtah · 2012-08-13 13:14 · Score: 1

You're correct, I'm using Astraweb. What I liked about them when I first signed up was no expiration of the GB purchased. It took me about six months to burn through the 25Gb purchased. I recently renewed for another 25 GB, and I figure when this finally runs out I'll go the 180GB route.

binsearch.info & nzbmatrix? I've not heard of these. I used to frequent newzbin, but haven’t used it for quite a while. I'll have to take at look at the sites you suggested.

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Re:Troll by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 13:14 · Score: 0

apk dusted the trolls on hosts once again http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40964905

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by NemosomeN · 2012-08-13 13:36 · Score: 1

nzbmatrix is not free, but it is worth the money. I think I paid about $10? It may be cheaper now, since it's charged in GBP, and the GBP has fallen since I bought it. The $10 covers 10 years of usage (It was "forever" but their lawyers told them that was a stupid idea). You can't find everything on NZB Matrix, but what you can find is almost never spam. (I have never downloaded spam from NZB Matrix, but it's common on binsearch, which basically indexes everything). If you don't use SABnzbd+ as a client, I recommend you look into it. It's easy to install, easy to set up, and works great.

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Re:$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 14:42 · Score: 0

apk tore ya a new one on hosts files today an ya ran beyotch http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479

Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 14:47 · Score: 0

you couldn't disprove apk's points on hosts files. you failed troll.

Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-13 14:48 · Score: 0

apk certainly got the best of you didn't he? http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40979479

Re:$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski by webmistressrachel · 2012-08-13 15:18 · Score: 1

Wow, mods, read it, that's not a Troll, it's Informative! I'm amused too.

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by nobodie · 2012-08-14 04:27 · Score: 1

I'm still laughing at the GP, I do have a tablet (WeTab, not android) and I do use cli on it. AND it is faster than click and wait and click and click. Since he obviously doesn't know how to use a cli, let him go on all he wants, relax and munch out

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Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada by djnforce9 · 2012-08-15 06:36 · Score: 1

I have to agree that while rTorrent does seem quite nice, it also has an overly complex setup even on windows. With uTorrent, you double click the exe, run the quick installer and you're good to go. With ruTorrent, you need to first install Cygwin, libsigc++, libTorrent, and of course rTorrent itself. Add all that up, and it's likely to be even more bloated than the ad-supported uTorrent itself. One thing I've always liked about Windows applications is that they often don't need several extras to be installed first such as the above nor do you have to worry about so many dependencies and how they may even clash at times.

Now if someone can suggest an alternate Torrent client that isn't geared towards Linux and therefore doesn't require a bunch of extra libraries to be installed first, that would be wonderful.

Re:poor jealous lil' "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:43 · Score: 0

hahaha ya struck the trolls speechless n' made 'em leave!

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:44 · Score: 0

hahaha ya struck the trolls speechless n' made 'em leave, cryin'!

Re:poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:46 · Score: 0

gotta be the truth cuz trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:47 · Score: 0

must be the truth you said cuz trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lmao by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:49 · Score: 0

truer words were never spoken as trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor jealous lil' "ne'er-do-well" troll, lmao by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:51 · Score: 0

truth hurts since the /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:52 · Score: 0

truer words were never spoken since the /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor jealous lil' "ne'er-do-well" troll, lmao by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:53 · Score: 0

truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol!

Re:poor jealous lil' "ne'er-do-well" troll, lol by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:55 · Score: 0

nothing works like truth n' the /. trolls are struck speechless, lol!

Re:lmao @ poor lil' jealous "ne'er-do-well" troll by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-18 13:56 · Score: 0

nothing works like truth n' /. trolls are struck speechless, lol!

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-19 01:47 · Score: 0

What program have you done better troll? Zero. That's what. You fail.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-19 01:49 · Score: 0

So which program have you done that's better troll? Zero. That's what. You fail. You're a lazy troll and nothing more.

Re:This'll let you "opt out" of ANY banner ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-19 01:54 · Score: 0

What program did you do that's better troll? None. You fail lazy troll. Accept it. I know it, you know it. Everyone knows it.

Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-19 01:59 · Score: 0

Absolutely. 'See troll run', lol http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965295

Re:Block out ALL ad banners then: 21++ ADVANTAGES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-08-19 02:26 · Score: 0

I must admit it works for speed websurfing. Thanks man.

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