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Windows 8 Changes Host File Blocking

An anonymous reader writes "Windows 8 has been confirmed to not only ignore, but also modify the hosts file. As soon as a website that should be blocked is accessed, the corresponding entry in the hosts file is removed, even if the hosts file is read-only. The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains, such as ad-serving websites."

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  1. Another reason... by Spritzer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, after reading the article this can be summarized as "Microsoft gives you one more reason to disable Windows Defender and use a third party AV app."

    1. Re:Another reason... by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft gives you one more reason to switch to Mac OSX or Ubuntu.

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    2. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I completely agree. This is the nail in the Windows coffin for me.

    3. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Microsoft gives you one more reason to switch to Mac OSX or Ubuntu.

      You think Apple or Canonical would never do this? What are you smoking? Maybe switch to Debian would sound a little more reasonable. Buy up routers that actually let you block things while you still can is more like it though. I wonder how long before you aren't ALLOWED to block certain addresses on pain of going to jail as a dirty pirate.

    4. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I'm sorry, but there is no reason to change to a Mac

    5. Re:Another reason... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I completely agree. This is the nail in the Windows coffin for me.

      If you are an enterprise IT manager this is your dream come true. You're not seeing this from the angle Microsoft is, they count on enterprise income more than they do home users.

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    6. Re:Another reason... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why is that a dream come true for an enterprise IT manager? You *want* employees to be on facebook? Or are you saying that crazy behavior on the windows platform ensures your job security?

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    7. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Enterprise customers will block it at using DNS or using Group Policy, not the hosts file.

    8. Re:Another reason... by MicroSlut · · Score: 5, Informative

      What Enterprise IT Manager is using the Hosts file to block web sites? Enterprises use firewalls. I've been blocking doubleclick at the firewall/proxy level for as long as I can remember.

    9. Re:Another reason... by pipatron · · Score: 1, Troll

      And this move makes sure you will never consider using a Windows-based platform as a small office-firewall, if you ever thought about something crazy like that before...

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    10. Re:Another reason... by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Hosts file to block web sites?

      You slut, there are other protocols than http and ports other than 80 or 443.

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    11. Re:Another reason... by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I'm sorry, but there is no reason to change to a Mac

      For a subset of meanings of the word, there's snobbery.

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    12. Re:Another reason... by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 0
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    13. Re:Another reason... by sqldr · · Score: 1

      if you're an enterprise IT sysadmin, this is a nightmare. How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

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    14. Re:Another reason... by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they're interested in 'enterprise' (I really hate that word these days), they may want to have a look at what's been happening. Good or bad security-wise, people have been pushing for using their own devices, devices they *like* to use. I think the only thing really stopping it from taking off for tablets and phones is the failure of Rim, Apple, etc, to open their protocols so a business does not need to pick a single type of device. If they ever figure that out, Microsoft is hosed.

    15. Re:Another reason... by houghi · · Score: 0

      Microsoft gives you one more reason to switch to Mac OSX or Ubuntu.

      Ubuntu is not an OS. Ubuntu is a distribution. Linux is the OS.
      Hate it when people mix that up. So instead of Ubuntu, you can also use RedHat, openSUSE, Debian, Slackware or any of the other operating systems out there. (Including BSD)

      So please stop using Ubuntu as a synonym for Linux or give back your geek card.

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    16. Re:Another reason... by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Informative

      It turns out Windows Defender just prevents certain domains from being added. Disable Windows Defender or use a host name less common than "ad.doubleclick.net" or "facebook.com", and the hosts file works just fine. I'm guessing the idea is to safeguard against phishing and ad-replacement attacks.

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    17. Re:Another reason... by burne · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Could you be so kind to post the other reasons?

      I have been using UNIX/linux/BSD and odd stuff like BeOS, System 7/8/9, OS X, Solaris/CDE, IRIX etc for 15 years.

      Never found a solid reason to use windows, and now you tell me there's more than one reason _not_ to run windows?

      That is one alternative reality I must grab..

    18. Re:Another reason... by snemarch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Umm, would you use the hosts file if setting up a Windows box for firewall purposes? I think not.

      I actually think not allowing critical things like *.microsoft.com (especially windows update and MSE) being redirected is a good thing - but there should be a Big Fat Popup warning that this is being done, and extending the hosts-removal for things like facebook and doubleclick? That's dubious, to put it mildly.

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    19. Re:Another reason... by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

      How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

      I guess you could add it to the hosts file the way you always did.

      All they did was block redirecting certain high profile domains that were commonly attacked by phishing and url redirection attacks by malware writing to the hostsfile. You'll still be able to add your my-cat-fluffys-enterprise-weblog.com and it will still work.

      Unless you happen to work on small handful of high profile websites that are commonly attacked by phishing/url redirection attacks, nothing has changed.

      If you do happen to work for facebook, and you do happen to use your hosts file to point facebook.com at internal development servers and you happen to use Microsoft's Windows Defender on your development pc, then things got ever so slightly more complicated. You'll probably cope, though.

      if you're an enterprise IT sysadmin, this is a nightmare.

      Yes, a nightmare on the same scale as the Dairy Queen across town being out of my favorite flavor. The horror.

    20. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Microsoft gives you one more reason to switch to Mac OSX or Ubuntu.

      Eh no one wants to switch to a OS that will automatically make you a smug and pretentious asshole. Especially if those OS's suck in comparrison in every single concieveable way.

    21. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      "Linux is the OS."

      You just forfieted your geek card, Linux is a kernel. Ubuntu and every other Linux distribution is, in fact, an OS.

      And, no, GNU/Linux doesn't count. Not until we start seeing things like DeWalt/Hovnainian houses or Monsanto/GreenGiant vegatables and other such nonsense.

    22. Re:Another reason... by grcumb · · Score: 1

      if you're an enterprise IT sysadmin, this is a nightmare. How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

      sudo vim /etc/hosts

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    23. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes but my point is, I will now have to use a firewall to keep Adobe CS_ from phoning home.

    24. Re:Another reason... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      So, after reading the article this can be summarized as "Microsoft gives you one more reason to disable Windows Defender and use a third party AV app."

      Really? No...REALLY? Because I don't know of another AV product that doesn't do exactly the same thing, if doesn't include some type of malware protection inside of it as well. And nearly all of them do, to me this just seems like the usual "let's all jump on the bash MS train" for something that other AV vendors were doing 5 years ago.

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    25. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the malware their users install would.

    26. Re:Another reason... by larry+bagina · · Score: 0

      APK, Inc.

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    27. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An IT manager using Hosts is an IT manager that needs to be replaced.

      First, if you are doing your web filtering on the workstation, you are doing it badly, badly wrong. Second, HOSTS is not somethin that is easily maintained or modified. Third, there are about a zillion better ways to accomplish blocking than using a HOSTS file.

      Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS, and for 99% of use cases where you might think "I can use a HOSTS file for that", there are far better methods-- or else the thing you are trying to do is retarded.

    28. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      And this move makes sure you will never consider using a Windows-based platform as a small office-firewall,

      And it also guarentees you will never use it as a stapler. Thing is, noone was doing either of those things before, nor will they now.

    29. Re:Another reason... by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      I don't know about Apple, but why would Canonical do this? Or do it in a way that the user can't undo?

    30. Re:Another reason... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS, and for 99% of use cases where you might think "I can use a HOSTS file for that", there are far better methods-- or else the thing you are trying to do is retarded.

      Even allowing for your premise....

      Why on earth would MS destroy a simple, well known behavior that users might indeed have reason to want to use? Why 'fix' something that isn't broken? Why break something that wasn't hurting anything else on the OS?

      No harm in leaving a well known tool and behavior be.....but plenty of reason not to fuck with it, no?

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    31. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You idiot, you can block anything at the router firewall and you only have to configure it once for multiple systems.

    32. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      I agree, I just dont think theres anything remotely noteworthy here. If it werent for awful 90s era programs that cant handle DNS, Id say kill the entire thing off and end the stupid "Hosts is a good idea" myth altogether.

    33. Re:Another reason... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Considering that the number of systems hit by malware making use of HOST file modifications is far larger than the list of systems using it to block access to sites, the balance of evidence is in favor of what Microsoft is doing. I know some people who have extensive files, but that group is very small. LordLimecat was right: it's a feature from a bygone era that is used more often for harm than for good. Even adding a switch to the functionality (which might well be there in the form of a registry entry) doesn't help because that switch will get flipped by malware.

      Sometimes features once useful outlive that usefulness.

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    34. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the GNU OS of which Linux is its kernel.

    35. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is silly reasoning. "Since I don't have a good reason to use it, nobody else should either."

      I use it to test services that are replacing old services with the same name. It works well as a temporary/quick way of testing. Yes, I could do it in DNS but it would take much longer to vet the change to our DNS servers than my local hosts file. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about this since I don't use Windows.

    36. Re:Another reason... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      MS sells ads. The biggest use of the HOSTS file is blocking ads. Google wishes they could do this.

    37. Re:Another reason... by shinzawai · · Score: 1

      It's called Linux, not Ubuntu, you dork/shill!

    38. Re:Another reason... by DJRumpy · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure how smaller companies do it, but I don't know of any decent sized enterprises that rely on a hosts file to restrict access to certain sites.

      That said, this is some really stupid shit from the MS gene pool. Hosts should always take priority and simple visiting a site should never modify hosts as a result.

      That said, I wonder if the old trick of setting 'System' to read only works?

    39. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did your testing on a pre-production test domain, and you have a managed code base that allows for easy transition to other domain names?

      Or are you seriously suggesting you create an entire new server environment to make modifications to your existing web sites?

    40. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      if you're an enterprise IT sysadmin, this is a nightmare. How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

      Agreed, I edit my host file almost daily, we run multiple apps on a single webserver/ip with virtual hosts, and if I'm setting up a new app (no DNS yet) or testing a particular load-balanced server of an existing app, being able to set a specific DNS in my host file is *essential*, I could not do my job effectively without it. I've dealt with multiple other teams in the company that have their host files locked out by policy, they can't even test their *own* applications before going live on new hardware (ie, moving an existing app) because they can't edit their own host file.

    41. Re:Another reason... by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      So many good distros out there, and you mention Ubuntu?!

    42. Re:Another reason... by blagooly · · Score: 1
      Advertising/advertisers. Good for business, good for the web.

      There will be a way, there always has been. A fine, fun tradition. 98Lite. What Browser?

      OT: Metro is effectively a "skin" or layer on 7? The "registry" is still there?

      Safe prediction? Simple corrections will fix these "issues".

    43. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hi. i wrote a virus that injects entries into your host file. instead of going to actual bank page, you are redirected to my page that looks like your bank page. this was my ingenious plot to get your bank account info. oh well, foiled by microsoft. back to the old drawing board.

      there. that's one reason to, basically, get rid of host files.

      however, i admit, i really hate that they are doing this (and not because i am a virus writer, because i'm not).

    44. Re:Another reason... by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Informative

      I agree that for blocking or for network-wide control using HOSTS is a horrible idea.

      I also realize that the issue apparently here is blocking only.

      But with that said, what about independent developers running their own web application on their machine ? If you're a web developer and you do your coding locally, it makes sense to use your host file to send a domain like dev.example.com to 127.0.0.1.

      Again, I know it looks like Windows 8 won't interfere with that. But it's still an example of a legitimate reason someone might rely on the hosts file, and why it could be a major PITA to have it messed with by the OS. Or is there a better way that I'm missing ? ( (and running your own DNS server, even locally, and especially on a Windows machine, seems way overkill and no where near "better" IMO).

      The problem with HOSTS files were they needed to be synchronized, distributed and maintained. Yes, it's a hold over to pre-DNS. But for a single machine who needs to set up certain private domains locally it seems the best option.

    45. Re:Another reason... by Boaz17 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Crap!

      The hole to plug (17 years over do) Is the fact that malware is able to modify the hosts file or flip a registry switch. Not some M$ convoluted notion of spaghetti security. I bet that by itself has holes in it.

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    46. Re:Another reason... by icebraining · · Score: 0

      There's no such thing as "no DNS yet". You don't need globally accessible domains to use DNS: just configure your local DNS server, or install one on your machine if you can't.

    47. Re:Another reason... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      If you are an enterprise IT manager this is your dream come true.

      Dream? No, nightmare. A machine the can't be configured as desitred and rewrites itself at will has no place in any corporate shop. You don't want the user rewriting the hosts file? That's not unreasonable and you can implement that right now, via policy so it's uniformly implemented. A client unavoidably rewriting itself against management wishes and that behavior can't be changed? Completely unacceptable. With this "feature", Windows 8 will not be installed in any corporate shop; at least not in any with any sort of a clue.

    48. Re:Another reason... by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      You just forfieted your geek card, Linux is a kernel.

      No he's ok.
      You OTOH, have just earned the pedant endorsement on yours with that post, congratulation. ;)

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    49. Re:Another reason... by rrohbeck · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS, and for 99% of use cases where you might think "I can use a HOSTS file for that", there are far better methods-- or else the thing you are trying to do is retarded.

      Ah, so I should rather set up a DNS server for my 5 machines, rather than have one hosts file that never changes and that I append once after installation?

    50. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yup, that's what I use it for too. Changing DNS changes it for everybody, which is what I don't want.

    51. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If the malware uses the hosts file, then neutering the hosts file helps neuter malware. Or were you just complaining because you wanted to complain, and you didn't bother to think about what you said?

    52. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when users have mobile devices that leave the workplace. Also for testing new rollouts! great I guess we need a dev/prod/mobile dns server setup. WTF!!

    53. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've seen it done by managing the hosts file with a login script. The issue was that two companies merged with separate intranets that had intranet names that overlapped public names. The DNS merge was months away, so hosts allowed employees in both companies to get to both intranets until DNS was set up appropriately. I can't argue it was best. I can only argue that because of business reasons, it was just about the only possible solution (natting could have worked, but it was uglier).

    54. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

      Install yet another bloated app that adds more potential security holes into your system, configure it, hope you didn't make a mistake somewhere that comes back to bite you long after you forgot you set up a DNS server on your desktop machine, when this was all previously configurable in 60 seconds using a text editor and a basic text file?

    55. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is "laptop3.fakedomain.local" reachable from a root DNS server? No? Then this won't affect you. But if you block adsense.com or whatever, even on a hosts file, you will be affected. The best fix is for someone to start up an ad-blocking DNS server that will block the ones people want blocked, and if you want to use it, you point your computers to it. The problem is, it'll be ad supported from the DNS errors, causing the heads of all the users to explode.

    56. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If that was the legitimate reason, then the proper course of action would have been to remove the hosts file feature totally (not this half-assed bullshit).

    57. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

      It's not a nightmare if you are competent. nslookup to 4.2.2.2 and get the current IP for the host in question (bypasses your hosts and DNS settings). Then ping the IP (doesn't use hosts or DNS).

      If you don't have that stored in your head, you aren't a competent admin. Though I can't count the number of times I used nslookup, only to have the person looking over my shoulder mention he's never seen it before. So the number of competent admins is likely very small.

    58. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like the solution though. It still means that Windows Defender has possibly detected malware and isn't telling you about it. A better solution would be a popup " has been added to your hosts file. Are you responsible for this? Yes / No." When people click yes, the hosts file is obeyed, when people click No it says "You've got malware, if you're not sure what to do, we recommend contacting a specialist to fix your computer" or something.

    59. Re:Another reason... by zoloto · · Score: 2

      Frankly, I wish there were an iptables windows clone.

    60. Re:Another reason... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      Then they shouldn't be installing dodgy software from whatever pirated software sources they're using.

    61. Re:Another reason... by jaxtherat · · Score: 1

      Yes.

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    62. Re:Another reason... by Falconhell · · Score: 0

      Yeh, good old APK is gonna love this!

    63. Re:Another reason... by Bill+Dog · · Score: 1

      It still means that Windows Defender has possibly detected malware and isn't telling you about it.

      That's the problem I have with Defender. I've been running Vista for a few years now, and early on when I first edited my hosts file it blocked it, either by setting it back silently and putting something in Defender's history or by prompting me, I can't remember which.

      But the solution was to turn off hosts file protection in the Defender prefs. So I get to modify it all I want, but I don't get warned if something else does. Seems way too course-grained of a solution.

      I wonder would it really be that big a deal to have a prompting option (and off by default, suitable for most users (who wouldn't modify their hosts file)) to allow intentional changes, and then a snapshot-based differencing system, for just that file.

      Or maybe just leave anything alone that is pointed to localhost?

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    64. Re:Another reason... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      Pinging the IP doesn't tell you that the web server is running, let alone configured to serve the proper content when queried with a specific Host: header.

      If you think that ping is a good way to conclusively determine that a web site is ready for public deployment then, ahem, you aren't a competent admin.

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    65. Re:Another reason... by wolrahnaes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You didn't understand the question. The question was about servers hosting multiple domains, assumedly in the context of HTTP since most other protocols don't give a fuck about the domain name. To test this properly, you'll need to either edit the HTTP request by hand or convince your machine that so and so server is actually the host you're requesting. The HOSTS file provides a convenient way to do this for those without direct control over their DNS server.

      That said, unless your site is in the list of protected domains this is entirely irrelevant, and if it is you are probably running your own internal DNS which allows for as much testing as you'd like.

      The sites affected are regularly accessed domains for which malware has historically been known to attack via the HOSTS file. The few users who legitimately need to add these domains to said files can be assumed to be able to figure out how to disable said restriction (though I agree with the idea that MS should have put a note in the file stating that such a thing was occurring) or run their own DNS making this a non-issue.

      tl;dr: You interpreted the question wrong, but the question was pointless to begin with.

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    66. Re:Another reason... by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      No, no he does not. If that were the case then Macs would ship with an OS called BSD/Mach, and Windows computers would ship with an operating system called NTOS/Windows. Ubuntu is the OS, just as Windows and Mac OS X are operating systems. GNU/Linux is just Stallman's attempt to take the lion's share of credit for work that he contributed nothing more than a small toolchain and a license text to.

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    67. Re:Another reason... by VTI9600 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You'll still be able to add your my-cat-fluffys-enterprise-weblog.com and it will still work.

      That's unfortunate because, as others have noted, the hosts file "feature" is indeed a relic of a bygone era that should be laid permanently to rest rather than being broken for certain use cases. There seem to be two camps here; the ones that say "leave our beloved feature intact!" and those who say "kill it for the sake of the enterprise!" They are both right -- What MS should do is not break the hosts file or make it behave inconsistently, but replace it with something better.

      A Windows service that allows DNS names to be overridden by user request is what is called for here. It could be added as a supported feature ...something that is controlled by group policy and managed through Windows RM to satisfy the enterprise IT folks ...something with a nice UI and possibly new features like pattern matching for the ad-blocking/web-developing user base.

      Practically speaking that probably won't happen, as it's always easier to shoot a piece of software in the head than actually improve or replace it...

    68. Re:Another reason... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Windows 8 = Windows Hate.

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    69. Re:Another reason... by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The smart IT manager realizes that even if employees spend 20 mins or so a day, they are far more productive than the ones fully restricted, locked down and persecuted. Studies have been done. Smart managers read them. Bad managers crack the whip according to arbitrary "productivity" goals that really mean nothing. Then they wonder why employees are always leaving the company and positions are so hard to fill.

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    70. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1
      You are right. I didn't read it right. I was assuming some basic competency or relevancy of the question. If you want to test a server, but not in a live environment, why do you not have a test DNS server? And if you are trying to get to a "fake" server tested, then the hosts crippling as described in this article will have absolutely no effect on you.

      You interpreted the question wrong, but the question was pointless to begin with.

      I presumed relevance but not competence. I should have presumed neither, and I would likely have gotten the question right.

    71. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Pinging tells you the server is running, even if not the web process. And if you like, telnet to port 80 and see what happens.

      But the question was about hosts files when testing servers in a test environment. Which goes back to "why don't you have a DNS server in your test environment?" DNS comes "free" with Windows server and Linux. Or are you too incompetent to administrate either of those?

    72. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If there were, malware would modify it in bad ways and all changes would end up being blocked by windows defender.

    73. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fixing things that are not broken is the policy of Microsoft. Control Panel, IIS, Start Menu, now the Metro theme all unnecessary and unwanted upgrades. Now all working less well for the sake of being new.

    74. Re:Another reason... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Find me an employee that spends "20 minutes a day" on Facebook, and I'll show you an employee that is better at hiding the other 3 hours they spent on Facebook than you are at detecting it.

    75. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you say "destroy", I say "fix".

      It sounds like what they are doing is automatically fixing the hosts file where it is incorrect.

    76. Re:Another reason... by humanrev · · Score: 1

      Microsoft gives you one more reason to switch to Mac OSX or Ubuntu.

      Interesting choice of word there - you said Ubuntu rather than the more generic Linux. Personally I'd suggest Linux Mint but that's based off of Ubuntu so it's all semantics, but perhaps it's just an acceptance that Ubuntu-based distros are the only ones that have any chance of being an alternative to most users in terms of Linux adoption (as small as that change may be).

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    77. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Implying APK could hold down a job.

    78. Re:Another reason... by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Have you seen the firewall that comes with the Windows 7 generation? It's no iptables, but it can do the job now.

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    79. Re:Another reason... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      So, how is one supposed to test moving a host around without fucking about with the DNS server now, too?

      Used to be I could just stick overrides in HOSTS for the reported nameservers or whatnot and browse/use the host normally, to confirm it works before throwing the switch at the registrar.

      What, are we supposed to ask IT to temporarily modify zones that aren't even in their zone of authority now? Or are we just supposed to throw the switch and see what happens?

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    80. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The issue was that two companies merged with separate intranets that had intranet names that overlapped public names. The DNS merge was months away, so hosts allowed employees in both companies to get to both intranets until DNS was set up appropriately. I can't argue it was best."

      I can, because it's obviously a dirty kludge. Name servers supporting views is the obvious way to go (or name servers overwriting the desired domains if name server views is too much for your IT minions alongside a recruiting process to substitute them with somebody capable ASAP).

    81. Re:Another reason... by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think what he wants is a firewall system that explicitly cannot be controlled by the operating system without his approval. So if he blocks something he can be assured it will stay blocked regardless of what kind of backroom deals Microsoft makes.

      The most annoying thing about these latest versions of Windows is that there appears to be this new class of user with control that supersedes than the owner of the hardware.

    82. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is that a dream come true for an enterprise IT manager? You *want* employees to be on facebook? Or are you saying that crazy behavior on the windows platform ensures your job security?

      Trying to block these things in hosts is a neutered approach.

    83. Re:Another reason... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      It's a very common situation that the people who want to test the site are in the marketing department, which could be a different facility or even a different company from the web developers.

      Since the dawn of time, it's been typical for the marketing people to edit the hosts file to make a final review before authorizing something to go live.

      I don't know what their technical resources are, and they are separate from mine. Insulting their IT staff in absentia isn't going to solve their problem.

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    84. Re:Another reason... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Irrelevant if the work gets done and employee satisfaction is high. Staring idly at a monitor is not productivity.

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    85. Re:Another reason... by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Enterprise customers will block it at using DNS or using Group Policy, not the hosts file.

      Actually we'll block it at the firewall as you can override group policy or DNS easily enough (the hosts file was the perfect way to get around a lot of DNS blocks).

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    86. Re:Another reason... by Lime+Green+Bowler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We use hosts files with shop floor manufacturing software that requires it. It does not function without host entries. You are not the judge of how a hosts file is to be used, and any mindset like yours should not be in IT. You have short sight and low experience in the real world it seems. Any any ass who threatens to "replace" somebody for using a feature that is far from outmoded, or thinks someones methods are "retarded" without benefit of understanding or even offering an alternative is a STFU-and-leave opportunity.

    87. Re:Another reason... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Umm, would you use the hosts file if setting up a Windows box for firewall purposes? I think not.

      Setting up a windows box as a firewall? Who in their right mind world do that when you could buy a SME class router/firewall like a Fortigate or Sonicwall for less than what it would cost to build your own dual NIC box (let alone the cost of a Windows Server license and ISA server license) which will do a hell of a lot more than being a firewall. I even think Cisco is now offering an ASA or Pix in the $6-800 range.

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    88. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After several (worthless) Microsoft Certifications, using Microsoft Operating systems for the last 21 years or so. I broke down and purchased a Macbook air... Something I kept telling myself I would never do.. But it has come to the point where Windows 8 made me want to switch, more than they made me want to use Windows 8.

      I am going to continue to use Windows 7 for my workstation, but for mobility reasons, I have made the switch. Never thought I would see the day this would happen, but starting this Wednesday, I will be an OSX user for the first time...

    89. Re:Another reason... by Dynedain · · Score: 5, Insightful

      no, but dev.realdomain.com might be... and yet I have to overwrite it to simulate on my local machine for development testing. Or perhaps I need to ensure when I load realdomain.com I go directly to a specific IP address instead of the default one that hits the load balancer.

      There's a whole slew of reasons for having a hostsfile (especially for developers) that DNS doesn't solve.

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    90. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not so obviously evil as you might think. The hosts file isn't there just so you can send traffic to 127.0.0.1. It could be altered by malware and redirect facebook.com to any arbitrary IP that serves up a phishing site (that might look identical to facebook).

    91. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of DMZ's don't have dns and use host files for name resolution. It's far easier (and more reliable) to update a host file and restart apps than modify multiple applications to point to a new ip address and restart them one at a time. Not that your likely to see windows 8 in a DMZ but if something like this makes it into server 2012 it could cause problems for some DMZ'd apps. With all of the exploits found in DNS systems over the years, hosts files (or just using IP addresses, but I've addressed that already) might actually be more secure in a true multi-tiered DMZ

    92. Re:Another reason... by RocketRabbit · · Score: 1

      A kernel is a kernel. An operating system is the whole SYSTEM, the thing you need in order to OPERATE. These days, this includes such utilities as the browser, the shell utility, even the text editor and the sound players.

    93. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    94. Re:Another reason... by Joe+U · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why 'fix' something that isn't broken?

      Because it is broken.

      Malware can easily change the hosts file and screw you up, it's really a hole in name resolution security.

    95. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about Apple, but why would Canonical do this? Or do it in a way that the user can't undo?

      Why would they put that hideous desktop together and force it down the user's throat? Because some it suited some middle or upper manager's agenda at the time. When I first looked at Ubuntu compiling your own kernel wasn't an option, let alone an easy one.

      Anyone who takes away my ability to configure my own environment without jumping through hoops.

    96. Re:Another reason... by hobarrera · · Score: 4, Informative

      iptables? Really? Have you even tried OpenBSD's pf? That's a powerfull yet easy-to-use firewall!

    97. Re:Another reason... by devman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Malware can easily change the hosts file ...

      Seems like they fixed the wrong problem.

    98. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in my years of development never, ever had to write .hosts file, i usually have a switch in a configuration file that chooses where it the app should connect.

    99. Re:Another reason... by fwarren · · Score: 1

      Enterprises don't run Windows Defender for free. They buy an AV solition. At that point, no problem with their hosts file. If they by Windows Defender, they can still block access at the firewall.

      What is more troubling to me is if I use the host file to modify the behavior of any real world site I can never be sure that Windows Defender won't overide me on this after some update.

      Yes, theis is a nightmare. Does Windows Defender ignore my DNS settings for these sites as well? How do I know it won't in the future? They already consider monkeying around with the HOSTs file a legitimate thing to do. Why not skip the middleman of DNS and handle that for us as well with sites they care about?

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    100. Re:Another reason... by Vreejack · · Score: 1

      Security Task Manager checks for things like suspicious processes, keyboard snooping and modifications to the hosts file. It gives me a popup warning a few seconds after I modify it myself. I doubt it can handle zero-day rootkits, but it helps you keep an eye on normal stuff and helps to ID misbehaving tasks when you are running way too many of them.

      http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/

      Runs on my Vista desktop and I've been running it since XP. The author once patched something for me overnight, a year after my fifteen dollar purchase, so I guess I have brand loyalty for that.

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    101. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I use it to stop Mom from reading my blog.

      As far as she is aware my "awful site" as been offline since May.

    102. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The most annoying thing about these latest versions of Windows is that there appears to be this new class of user with control that supersedes than the owner of the hardware.

      It's already been like this for a long time with iOS.

    103. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An IT manager using Hosts is an IT manager that needs to be replaced.

      Oh, I how much do I agree. I worked at a grocery store chain that was using the hosts file for all it's name look ups. This was 2 years ago, mind. The reason? Because DNS was too hard to maintain. I nodded, slowly, and backed away, careful not to make any sudden movements.

      ( savemart, for those of you wondering at home ).

    104. Re:Another reason... by TheRealGrogan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These people defending MIcrosoft's behaviour are just tools... I wouldn't pay much attention to them. Microsoft can't "kill the hosts file off" because the behaviour is part of the IP specification (defined in the RFC's)

      We expect implementations of the TCP/IP protocol in clients to behave in established ways and Microsoft has no right to change that.

      I make use of the hosts file for various purposes, including getting my forum users set up with hosts file entries to the new server, beforehand, whenever our DNS entries are changing so they can still reach the forum while changes are propagating. THIS is a prime example of why the hosts file still exists and the behaviour should not be fucked with by those assclowns at Microsoft.

      Hosts was never meant to be used for blocking sites, but it works well enough as a consequence and the behaviour should be left alone. Whatever the user puts in there, should work as intended. I don't fucking CARE that it's used for malware. Fight malware in other ways.

    105. Re:Another reason... by DeathFromSomewhere · · Score: 1

      So are you suggesting that nothing should be able to modify the hosts file? Seems kind of useless.

      If you have some sort of way to tell malware from legit software, I'm sure the rest of the computing industry is waiting for your insight.

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    106. Re:Another reason... by rrohbeck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would only be affected if I used Windows 8, which I don't plan to.

    107. Re:Another reason... by mrbcs · · Score: 1

      MS sells ads. The biggest use of the HOSTS file is blocking ads. Google wishes they could do this.

      BINGO!!! We have a winner! Game Over.

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    108. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Sorry pal but most of us have Windows programs that are mission critical so that's right out. Not that it matters though, MSFT can keep their "Oh Hai! I Iz Teh Social Phone now!" OS and the rest of us will have Win 7. Its stable, runs great, and supported until 2020 so if MSFT doesn't catch a clue by then all the big name programs will have moved to OSX or Ubuntu therefor fixing any problems those with must have programs face. Its a win/win as i see it.

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    109. Re:Another reason... by mrbcs · · Score: 1

      I use a hosts file on my home machine to block the ads, and OpenDns for the kids machines.

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    110. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      telnet 192.168.1.154 80
      GET / HTTP1.1
      Host: siteIhopeisup.com
      Ctrl-D

    111. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Informative

      Surely you've got an old PC laying around yes? there are several free DNS servers that run on Linux and Windows, just use one of those and block anything you want blocked there. As a bonus a recursive DNS will speed up your web browsing as you aren't needing to call DNS for anyplace you've already been since you have your own DNS on the LAN, easy peasy.

      Hell if you are worried about power you can buy one of those little plug computers or my personal favorite the little cheap E350 AMD kits. Those things are cheap, make great mini-servers or office boxes, only draw about 18w under load and less than 6w on average, great little units. Newegg usually has them the cheapest if you want one.

      As for TFA if anybody didn't doubt that MSFT is expecting businesses and users with a brain to stay with Win 7 hopefully this will be your wakeup call. Hell frankly i wouldn't be surprised if MSFT takes an LTS approach to businesses because as we know businesses simply don't jump on the upgrade wagon like consumers so they can have 7 for business, 8 and 9 for consumers, 10 for business, etc. That would give business users around 7 years an OS which would be just about perfect now that PCs are lasting so much longer and the consumers can be the beta testers just like Fedora is used by RH.

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    112. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      The most annoying thing about these latest versions of Windows is that there appears to be this new class of user with control that supersedes than the owner of the hardware.

      What's that in English?

    113. Re:Another reason... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      So you've never seen what iptables can really do I take it...

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    114. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ask and ye shall receive Comodo Personal Firewall. Free, easy to use, has sane defaults while at the same time letting you control any in or outbound with any kind of rule you can think up. Personally I'd just take Comodo Internet Security Free as it gives you the AV and Firewall in one, has sandboxing, again a ton of control over the AV, oh and their license makes it free for home AND business use.

      With Windows if you want anything more than the basic you really gotta go third party, that's just the way its always been. I happen to like it that way as it gives me plenty of choices besides whatever MSFT packs in. That said the Win 7 firewall isn't bad, you click on advanced and you can cook up your own rules, not nearly as fine grained as Comodo but for a basic firewall it isn't bad.

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    115. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Uhhh you DO realize there is also a remote registry service that can royally bone you too...right? The problem isn't the file itself, its the remote access part.

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    116. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ubuntu? The distro that's falling into the same crap about "tablet-friendliness" that Windows 8 is shitting itself over? No thanks. Linux Mint or GTFO.

    117. Re:Another reason... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Hello.... Ever heard of "Embrace, extend, extinguish!"

      So Microsoft skipped 'extend' this time...

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    118. Re:Another reason... by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS

      It is wise to avoid disparaging what you do not use. You may simply be ignorant. Here's a few lines from my hosts file:

      127.0.2.1 slave1
      127.0.2.2 slave2
      127.0.2.3 slave3
      127.0.2.4 slave4
      127.0.2.5 slave5
      127.0.3.1 master

      I also have a couple dozen SSH tunnel host overrides and various custom paths. The hosts file is used to define per-machine address resolution.

    119. Re:Another reason... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 2

      No, he didn't, Microsoft says it OVER AND OVER again. Like in 1999, when they were shilling exchange to sysadmins and consultants so "you can bill more hours"

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    120. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but my point is, I will now have to use a firewall to keep Adobe CS_ from phoning home.

      I have mine blocked at my router- anything trying to leave my network to their IP space (or coming in from it) gets blackholed.

    121. Re:Another reason... by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      Remote access to the registry requires elevation. The HOSTS file needs to be R/W by default due to older software that expects it to be R/W. I'll bet I can put an ACL on it that blocks the antivirus app from touching it, I'll most likely break some legacy applications by doing it though.

    122. Re:Another reason... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      in the case of the host file you could simply require administrator permission. If the malware has admin access you have already lost. And if the malware is affecting the host file currently then the problem is still not in the host file or its implementation it is that the malware is on the system to begin with and the hole it exploited to do so in the first place is what need fixed.

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    123. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, that's what I use it for too. Changing DNS changes it for everybody, which is what I don't want.

      You shouldn't be running testing in your production environment to start with, so that's a pretty lame excuse. The only reason to use the hosts file is when you're using a device like a laptop that has to jump around on a lot of different networks where DNS, etc. are out of your control. If you're an enterprise network, you should be doing blackholing and redirection on an external router or a firewall, not tampering with DNS or the hosts tables on individual machines.

    124. Re:Another reason... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      another possible reason is so that they could sell more licenses for windows dns server software if you currently have a small shop with a simple work group you don't need a server and server license to run dns i can simply alter the host. now you would need one.

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    125. Re:Another reason... by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

      You idiot, you can block anything at the router firewall and you only have to configure it once for multiple systems.

      Read the GP's account name, idiot.

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    126. Re:Another reason... by GeniusDex · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is inherentily impossible to build something into an OS which cannot be controller by that OS itself. If you want these really secure firewalls, they should be on a separate appliance and all your traffic should be routed through them.

    127. Re:Another reason... by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      So, after reading the article this can be summarized as "Microsoft gives you one more reason to disable Windows Defender and use a third party AV app."

      Both AVG and Avast default 'protects' the hosts file by preventing you (or some malware) from editing it.

      However, it can be turned off specifically without disabling the entire AV package.

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    128. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      pf syntax is nice - I used to use agt to simulate it, but since trying ferm I've never looked back.

    129. Re:Another reason... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You seem to be a bit confused about how Windows works.

      If it is your PC and you are the administrator then yes, you have full control over it. You can set any firewall rules you want and they won't be overwritten by "backroom deals" or anything like that. Hosts was always an unsupported system file hack, and there is a pretty powerful firewall in Windows 7.

      On the other hand if it isn't your computer then the (network) administrator can overrule you with Group Policy Settings. This is exactly the same as on a Linux box if you don't have a root access. Your administrator can decide if you have access to the firewall, or even right down to what types of firewall rule you can make. There really is a huge amount of fine grained control available. Enterprise admins love it.

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    130. Re:Another reason... by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      The Windows 7 firewall can definitely do the job described by the poster a few comments up, which is what the poster you replied to was referring to.

      There are things (a great many, depending on how far down the "it is rare people would need to" scale) iptables can do that the built-in Windows firewall can't do, but the matter currently being discussed certainly isn't one of them.

    131. Re:Another reason... by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      I get your point, but it is possible for an OS to use append-only media that can be used for tamper-proof logs.

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    132. Re:Another reason... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2

      Why on earth would MS destroy a simple, well known behavior that users might indeed have reason to want to use? Why 'fix' something that isn't broken? Why break something that wasn't hurting anything else on the OS?

      The motivation was probably not to stop you blocking ads, but to stop malware creating DNS entries so they could send you to their site instead of the the intended one.

      The annoying thing is that rewriting the hosts file just happens silently, instead of asking the user if this was what he wanted to do. If there were malicious DNS entries, I think I'd like to know, it's a symptom of something very bad going on.

    133. Re:Another reason... by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      then the proper course of action would have been to remove the hosts file feature totally

      IIRC you still need posix compliance (or the ability to claim it such that your claims can not be rubbished too easily) for your OS to be used in many US agencies, and the hosts file is one of the many minor points mentioned in that specification. Presumably that spec says something about having the feature, but does not say anything about effectively disabling it in this way.

    134. Re:Another reason... by Alioth · · Score: 1

      As an enterprise IT manager, users should not have access to the hosts file anyway so enterprise IT managers shouldn't care.

      Enterprisey setups should not be granting direct connections to website, they should all be going via a proxy which does the DNS lookup for the PC.

    135. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      An IT manager using Hosts is an IT manager that needs to be replaced.

      First, if you are doing your web filtering on the workstation, you are doing it badly, badly wrong. Second, HOSTS is not somethin that is easily maintained or modified. Third, there are about a zillion better ways to accomplish blocking than using a HOSTS file.

      Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS, and for 99% of use cases where you might think "I can use a HOSTS file for that", there are far better methods-- or else the thing you are trying to do is retarded.

      apk will make you pay for your blasphemy, heathen!

    136. Re:Another reason... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A very small amount of Microsoft's revenue comes from selling ads. Almost all of one of their major competitors' revenue comes from selling ads. It's therefore in their best interests to make ad blocking easy...

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    137. Re:Another reason... by icebraining · · Score: 1

      I'm not defending Microsoft's decision. I'm saying that there are simple alternatives. And there's no real security threat unless you're opening your firewall to let the DNS server get queries from the outside, and there's no reason to do that.

    138. Re:Another reason... by TheBogBrushZone · · Score: 2

      I suspect the most popular use for hosts is actually to stop pirate software *cough*Photoshop*cough* from dialling home.

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    139. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hell if you are worried about power you can buy one of those little plug computers or my personal favorite the little cheap E350 AMD kits. Those things are cheap, make great mini-servers or office boxes, only draw about 18w under load and less than 6w on average, great little units

      Seconded, however you'd best steer clear of the Asus and Asrock boards if you plan on doing anything with the PCI slots on those boards. They all use the ASMedia 1083 pci bridge, which happens to be broken beyond belief. See here and here. TL;DR: the controller has a hardware bug where it fails to deassert its interrupt status, causing IRQ storms which effectively makes connected devices useless.

    140. Re:Another reason... by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      Malware can easily change the hosts file and screw you up

      Exactly. And that now makes classification of Windows 8 obvious ;-)

    141. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, so the next malware iteration will replace the DNS server with 127.0.0.1, use its own file and we're back to square one. How about solving the real problem, that you apologetically describe as "the annoying thing": how can malware modify a file under system32? You don't think that that in itself is already a symptom of something very bad?

    142. Re:Another reason... by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      Because he's got his tin foil hat on... Why would you choose not to use something current based on what a tin-foil-hat wearer says they might change in the future?

    143. Re:Another reason... by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 1

      I still think it should be sufficient if the HOSTS file is only accessible with admin privileges. Because once you make the mistake of letting malware run with that level of access, your system is compromised anyway.
      Protecting a small corner of it at the expense of breaking well established functionality creates more problems than it solves.

      IMHO the balance of damage is not in favor of what Microsoft is doing

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    144. Re:Another reason... by TyFoN · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should buy the software :)

    145. Re:Another reason... by azalin · · Score: 2

      Your reasoning does not comply with MS bashing guidelines. Please refrain from using your brain so often.

    146. Re:Another reason... by stridebird · · Score: 1

      Or maybe just leave anything alone that is pointed to localhost?

      That seems sensible, but pointing to 127.0.0.1 could still be malicious if you've got a rogue web server running too.

    147. Re:Another reason... by azalin · · Score: 1

      There used to be this really old joke about windows being a virus. On the other hand good viruses used to be well written and go unnoticed.

    148. Re:Another reason... by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      OT: Metro is effectively a "skin" or layer on 7?

      Windows 8 is to Windows 7 what XP was to 2000:
      * From the users PoV most of the changes are superficial (the new "skin" generally, the ribbon everywhere, explorer enhancements like the fancy long operation progress boxes)
      * There is a lot more going on under the hood to make some of those changes possible, or to make other improvements like general efficiency and hardware support
      * Most users won't know about, care about, or need to care about the above internal changes, so unless they want to UI update there is no reason to upgrade in the near future.

      Many stuck with Windows 2000 until soon before it dropped out of security patch support because for many it worked so didn't need fixing, particularly because people didn't want to volunteer for a new UI when they were used to the old one (even though a lot of the newness could be turned off). I strongly suspect the transition from 7 (or Vista, or XP for those still using it) to 8 will be similarly drawn out, if not worse because the UI change is more significant.

      The "registry" is still there?

      Yes, and will be for many years to come. Far too much depends on that core feature for it to be removed in any way any time soon. Some code might be using alternate config storage methods/stores/APIs but if the registry went away much would stop working and translating everything it does to a new method (so said method can replace it transparently) would probably be somewhat impractical.

    149. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I will avoid running Windows outside VM(ware).

    150. Re:Another reason... by oreaq · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hosts was always an unsupported system file hack

      Where do you get this idea from? Hosts files are a common part of the IP stack of various operating systems. Microsoft has been using hosts files at least since Windows 95. They are fully supported and documented.

    151. Re:Another reason... by TCM · · Score: 4, Informative

      I make use of the hosts file for various purposes, including getting my forum users set up with hosts file entries to the new server, beforehand, whenever our DNS entries are changing so they can still reach the forum while changes are propagating. THIS is a prime example of why the hosts file still exists and the behaviour should not be fucked with by those assclowns at Microsoft.

      No, it's a prime example of a bad IT person. If you had any clue about what you're doing, you'd lower the TTL prior to making the change, then make the change, then change the TTL back to normal.

      Expecting random clients to modify their config to compensate for your incompetence is just dumb.

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    152. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people can't do their job on a tablet because their job is not reading a book, browsing the internet or playing lousy touch-based games. Imagine even working in a call center with just a tablet.

    153. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the warning.

    154. Re:Another reason... by oreaq · · Score: 1

      The "extend" is called lmhosts.

    155. Re:Another reason... by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      Malware also modifies the hosts file and redirects trusted websites to malicious servers

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    156. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Path to hosts is %windir%\system32\drivers\etc, so it already requires admin privileges (at least under XP and above, not too sure about Windows 2000). The rest of your points stand though.

    157. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The host file is used more by virus then users. If you want to block facebook, bock it at the firewall (you can do it in windows defult firewall even).

    158. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows default firewall can be used to block sites.

    159. Re:Another reason... by Xest · · Score: 0

      The biggest use of the HOSTS file is blocking ads.*

      *If you're an APK 'tard.

      FTFY.

      In the real world the hosts file has many sensible and legitimate uses, blocking ads is not one of them.

    160. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is so hard to add an exception.

    161. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a horrible example. You'd be much, much better off defining named entries in the SSH config.

    162. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read your post and realize that you haven't a fucking clue, dipshit.

    163. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *** will make you pay for your blasphemy, heathen!

      Oh no. That's twice he's been mentioned now - one more time and he *will* appear (and bore us all to death).

    164. Re:Another reason... by DrXym · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be hard to buy a router with a firewall too which could do this. Or hackers could knock one together using some old hardware they have knocking around. There is custom firmwares for a lot of Netgear kit.

    165. Re:Another reason... by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Why on earth would MS destroy a simple, well known behavior that users might indeed have reason to want to use? Why 'fix' something that isn't broken? Why break something that wasn't hurting anything else on the OS?

      I expect primarily to stop malware using hosts as an easy way to reroute calls or block AV requests or whatever. They probably think it's better to deprecate this file completely and rely on a proper firewall infrastructure. Of course it might also stop users from blocking ads, but I think that is more of a concern for Windows RT since Windows 8 will presumably benefit from any number of 3rd party firewalls where blocking could be achieved.

    166. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, this has little bearing on enterprise. Enterprise will be using other solutions.

    167. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > if you're an enterprise IT sysadmin, this is a nightmare

      As an enterprise IT sysadmin, the real nightmare is that someone is actually USING the hosts file an a 'real' environment.

      > How can I check a site is up on a server with a certain domain name before I point DNS to it?

      If you're not using DNS, then why use the domain name at all? Just use the IP if you need to test a site in those milliseconds between the time your NIC gets an IP and its DNS settings. If you're not running DNS (or can't use it) in your enterprise, then as an 'enterprise IT sysadmin', you really need to re-evaluate your career choices...

    168. Re:Another reason... by flirno · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with enterprise IT. This has more to do with the app store that comes with windows 8.

    169. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the op was referring to using the hosts file as a way to block network traffic is the hack. And he's right.

    170. Re:Another reason... by dskzero · · Score: 1

      What kind of retarded IT manager blocks sites via the hosts file?

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    171. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's completely unreasonable. Microsoft changes the host file without your approval to change access to sites you'd rather blackhole and your solution is to build and maintain a separate box to pass your traffic through? How about we stop violating standards and restore control to the end user hmmm????

    172. Re:Another reason... by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I really wasn't getting this issue at all.

      I haven't used the hosts file to block with for AGES. At work we block with firewall and web filtering. At home I use NoScript and Adblock and firewall blocking.

      Glad to see the hosts file get more attention. Too bad that Win8 is so horrible to work with I'll never get to use the improvement in hosts file management.

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    173. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The HOSTS file is located at %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\. You already need administrator access to modify (or even view) that. Anything from system32 down requires it, IIRC.

    174. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hosts files still have their place in corporate IT. If you're troubleshooting a website/load NLB, whatnot, its nice to be able to have your PC override DNS. I commonly did this at my last gig to prove to people, yes, their website was not configured properly.

    175. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, as a dev, I might want to use a "replacement" for the production site in my HOSTS file. If I'm working on www.somecrappysite.com, and the original developer was an idiot and hard-coded a bunch of links in the site to an absolute URL and/or chose a CMS that does that, I need the HOSTS file to do any dev work outside of production. I have to point the live production URL at my local/dev server, do the work, test it, then promote the stuff to production and remove the HOSTS entry from my machine.

      What Microsoft has done has made that impossible. DNS overrules HOSTS now, and DNS points at the live production site, so it will NEVER point the live URL to my dev server while I work. Now I have the choice of A) change all of the hard-coded crap NOW, even though the current project is an emergency fix or B) work directly on the production site. Both of those options are unacceptable in many cases.

    176. Re:Another reason... by WillerZ · · Score: 1

      You did your testing on a pre-production test domain, and you have a managed code base that allows for easy transition to other domain names?

      Why add in an unnecessary risk? If third-party code (unbeknownst to you) names its tables with the domain name you can test it all you like on a pre-production name but as soon as you flip to the real name it will stop working. And the first time you will know about it is after you flip the switch and your customers complain.

      Or are you seriously suggesting you create an entire new server environment to make modifications to your existing web sites?

      Pretty-much everyone I know does this; you make a new VM in EC2 or Peer1 or Rackspace or whatever, install and configure everything under its final name, test it, then switch the DNS entries.

      Once you are certain the DNS changes have propagated everywhere they're going to get (wait TTL * 2 after the change) you stop and delete the previous VMs.

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    177. Re:Another reason... by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      You mean you are comfortable about an AV solution, and a popular one, meddling with a write protected hosts file and telling you nothing about it?

      One should AT LEAST have learned about this behavior from Windows or Defender changelogs.

      I see how windows gives you job security, though. You can't be held responsible for the inner working of a black box.

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    178. Re:Another reason... by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's the primary reason I'm reading this, is to see what his response will be.

    179. Re:Another reason... by godefroi · · Score: 2

      I think he meant the technique of redirecting certain names to (f.e.) 127.0.0.1 using the hosts file as an ad-blocking tool was an unsupported hack. The original purpose of the hosts file certainly didn't include ad-blocking, but to say "unsupported" is a stretch.

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    180. Re:Another reason... by godefroi · · Score: 1

      Microsoft can't "kill the hosts file off" because the behaviour is part of the IP specification (defined in the RFC's)

      Uh, the IP specification doesn't say anything about the hosts file, because the IP specification doesn't specify how to map names to addresses. In fact, it specifically says:

      It is the task of higher level (i.e., host-to-host or application) protocols to make the mapping from names to addresses.

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    181. Re:Another reason... by omglolbah · · Score: 1

      The article has already been appended with a "Whoops, this is an anti-malware issue" so time to chill.

      That there is no message or indication that the file is protected in such a way is of course a failing but protecting system files has been part of most anti-malware kits for years... Even 3rd party tools do this.

      Amusingly the host file behavior has not changed in win8. Just the code protecting it so your rage is misdirected at best ;)

    182. Re:Another reason... by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      That's a horrible example. You'd be much, much better off defining named entries in the SSH config.

      Tunnels, nitwit. I'm tunneling to an endpoint through an intermediary host.

    183. Re:Another reason... by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      Irrelevant if the work gets done and employee satisfaction is high. Staring idly at a monitor is not productivity.

      Unfortunately, MBA-logic response to that is "Who cares about employee satisfaction, obviously we're not giving them enough work to do."

    184. Re:Another reason... by Shagg · · Score: 1

      If it is your PC and you are the administrator then yes, you have full control over it ... Hosts was always an unsupported system file hack

      So by "full control" you mean "unless MS decides not to support what you want".

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    185. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear! There is a tree across the road. Let get the bulldozer to clear the trees out next to the road and then pave it so we can get around. Brilliant!

    186. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      These people defending MIcrosoft's behaviour are just tools... I wouldn't pay much attention to them. Microsoft can't "kill the hosts file off" because the behaviour is part of the IP specification (defined in the RFC's)

      1) Im not defending it, im saying its uber low on "list of things I care about".
      2) Theyre not "killing it off", theyre preventing common hijacks to it. Its a pretty retarded way to do it IMO, but whatever.

      I make use of the hosts file for various purposes, including getting my forum users set up with hosts file entries to the new server, beforehand, whenever our DNS entries are changing so they can still reach the forum while changes are propagating

      This falls under "bad ideas / DNS does it better" from above, sorry. Prior to any DNS changes, set your TTL to 30 minutes or however low it goes, make the change, viola. 30 minutes, max, before propogation. Encouraging HOSTS file use is just going to cause massive breakage down the road when one of your users forgets to remove that entry.

      THIS is a prime example of why the hosts file still exists and the behaviour should not be fucked with by those assclowns at Microsoft.

      And the breakage that some of your users will experience next DNS change is why we have moved on to DNS, and why what MS does to the HOSTS file is of little concern to me or my clients. There is ONE client that I have that would remotely care about HOSTS behavior change, and Im going to go out on a limb and say hostname-only entries ("SERVER 10.5.5.5") are probably not on the radar of things they mess with, which are about the only major HOSTS file use left in businesses.

      Fight malware in other ways.

      Then disable the behavior in their antimalware software. This is such a non-issue, its remarkable that it made it through the firehose.

    187. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      The hole to plug (17 years over do) Is the fact that malware is able to modify the hosts file

      Not to be rude, but you simply dont understand how malware works. Once malware gets user privileges, it can do whatever the user can. It can even call an elevation prompt on itself, and if the user grants it, the malware now can do absolutely anything on the system not prevented by some third party product-- that is, unless your antivirus is blocking calls or protecting files, it can do anything at all.

      Since the HOSTS file is protected by NTFS to be admin editable only, malware with system rights can make changes to it.

    188. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Not through doubleclick. You are basically saying that MS is unblocking ads for Google because....?

      Does not compute, sorry.

    189. Re:Another reason... by atlasdropperofworlds · · Score: 1

      Actually, you only need to disable windows defender to modify the hosts file. Once the modification is done, windows defender seems to happily ensure it does not change again on it's watch.

    190. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      in the case of the host file you could simply require administrator permission.

      They already do. Can we end this stupid discussion now?

    191. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get a router and install Tomato (dd-wrt is NOT open source) and install a custom hosts file there.

    192. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is probably because the hosts file is the simplest vector for pirating adobe software(and msft I think) .

      if I had to guess.

    193. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      C:\>cacls C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
      C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(ID)F
                                                                                  BUILTIN\Administrators:(ID)F
                                                                                  BUILTIN\Users:(ID)R

      Can you please point out the security hole here? Is it the "administrators:F"? Or perhaps that SYSTEM has rights to the file?

    194. Re:Another reason... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      They can't just unblock their OWN ads. That would be too obvious. By unblocking Google's too they can claim it's for "security."

    195. Re:Another reason... by tomthegeek · · Score: 1

      > The most annoying thing about these latest versions of Windows is that there appears to be this new class of user with control that supersedes than the owner of the hardware.

      So important it bears repeating.

    196. Re:Another reason... by bkcallahan · · Score: 1

      Welcome to 2012 and finally having to put a firewall up.

    197. Re:Another reason... by Vokkyt · · Score: 1

      I agree with the first part, but this is about end users, not enterprise managers/users, and it's the silent manner in which it's perform that matters. This is a user instigated change that Windows decides to change without telling the user.

      If Defender noted that it was making a change to the hosts file, this would not have exploded to 500+ comments (well, okay maybe there would be enough ms bashing for that), but it would be a different tune altogether.

    198. Re:Another reason... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      um isn't the changes to the host file the topic of this whole thread? if you are sick of the discussion as you said you could just move on to another

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    199. Re:Another reason... by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      If he's not getting his work accomplished in a timely fashion, then fire him and hire someone who will.

      If he is getting his work accomplished in a timely fashion, either give him more tasks or STFU and find something more productive to do with your time.

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    200. Re:Another reason... by AaronLS · · Score: 2

      I agree completely. I don't know what these guys have been smoking that they think they should be configuring each desktop when they should be doing it in their infrastructure. Linux or Windows, if you have physical access to the machine, you can do as you please with enough perseverance. If you're not putting these rules into your firewall/network infrastructure, anyone can plug their laptop into a wall, spoof their desktop's MAC, and do as they please as well.

      The hosts file was never meant for implementing IT policies like this. There is a legitimate reason they have made this change. There are plenty of viruses that will modify the host file as a way to block internet access in order to disable anti virus updates or downloads of targeted removal software. For the 1% of us that really know our stuff, we fix this manually, but for the other 99% they sit there with an infected computer for maybe a week or more before they find someone to fix it, all the while their computer is doing the bidding of the malware, spreading or participating in a botnet.

      If anything I would expect them to at least popup a notification whenever the host file is modified, and provide an option to opt-out.

    201. Re:Another reason... by AaronLS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There were no backroom deals here. Certain domains are commonly targetted by malware. If malware, or perhaps another user/IT with malicious intent, modifies your hostfile to redirect facebook.com to a phishing site, it will still appear to be at a legitimate domain of facebook.com but actually serving the phishing site. It won't have SSL but your average user won't notice. So you see, it is in the interests of preventing the hosts file from being a tool for malware or malicious users. It is not in the interest of some backroom deal MS made with facebook.

    202. Re:Another reason... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      This is silly reasoning. "Since I don't have a good reason to use it, nobody else should either."

      That would be silly reasoning--if I had said it.

      LordLimecat and I are on the same page here. It's not a huge issue for the overwhelming majority of people that certain changes can't be made to the HOSTS file. It is a method to help ensure the average user that common sites (and especially MS update sites) cannot be hijacked via this method. I recognize the need for HOSTS files in certain circumstances. But the number of people with those needs diminishes daily.

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    203. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the point is not whether you can employ another measure to do the job, be it the Windows firewall, a third-party software firewall, using Group Policy or another device as a hardware firewall.

      The point is that Microsoft's attitude towards removing and altering these features and facilities that people are using is, for lack of a better word, way too cavalier and even insulting. All of us have seen this over and over again in the past decade and a half with Windows, the most recent instance of which was the removal of Start button from Windows 8 UI.

      I have been a commercial software developer (and recently a game developer) for 13 years, and most of my career has been on Windows, because my customers and users are on Windows. However like any sane person, I prefer developing software on Linux. And with Windows 8, I think Microsoft has finally convinced me to make the permanent switch and be done with it. Unless Windows 9 comes out and manages to keep me.

    204. Re:Another reason... by drakaan · · Score: 1

      How about for those of us who have to deal with internal and external IP addresses on websites as we move in and out of client networks. I have lots of hosts entries that *I* put there (and comment out, and uncomment) so that I can get to a site by one of several IP addresses without having to throw up an internal DNS server wherever one might be missing (like on a client's DMZ). If I understand this correctly, then are they saying that *my* entries will get deleted if I access them? If so, then I'm *really* glad I saw this article before I had to try and figure out what the hell was happening to my hosts file. Fortunately, I don't *need* to use Windows Defender, but man, that's a sucky new behavior.

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    205. Re:Another reason... by Cederic · · Score: 2

      While you're entirely correct about the legitimate purpose of this change, it does open the door to Microsoft assuring that doubleclick.net or equivalents aren't set in hosts to 127.0.0.1

      You don't have to work with Microsoft for very long to realise that actually, yes, this is something they would consider.

    206. Re:Another reason... by TheRealGrogan · · Score: 1

      I have a plenty of clues. Some ISPs ignore the TTL and cache DNS records for much longer. Sometimes days. Also, what makes you think I have control over the TTL setting? I don't run the DNS and when I do have that setting available (e.g. at a registrar) I lower it to 300 seconds for the move and that still doesn't help everyone.

      As for the other smart asses who say I'm such a "bad IT person", we remove the hosts file entries after things settle down. It's not random clients either, it's members of forum communities and it works well for us. I've been involved with 3 forums over the last decade and have orchestrated several server moves. In the beginning we had sad users who couldn't reach the forum for days after a move, then we started using hosts so nobody misses a beat.

      Making assumptions about the way things work in theory, without considering the way they work in the real world is what's "dumb".

    207. Re:Another reason... by MrResistor · · Score: 1

      Right... because enterprise IT managers are just chomping at the bit to roll out Windows 8...

      I can't think of a single reason why I'd want to bother with the host files on my user's PCs, but I will say this: when I set something it better fucking stay set! Any OS that ignores my explicitly stated wishes will earn my ire.

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    208. Re:Another reason... by TheRealGrogan · · Score: 1

      Poor choice of wording, you're right. Let's say "The TCP/IP implementation" then. The hosts file is supposed to be honoured... even smart phone OSes do it.

    209. Re:Another reason... by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Another solution could be to have it wrapped in some kind of UAC thing, telling you "The following program wants to modify your hosts file, allow/deny?" Then you could also add exceptions to legacy programs.

    210. Re:Another reason... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The KB article you linked to is for Windows 95.

      They were supported in Windows 95 when it was acceptable to shit all over the filesystem. Since XP the location (Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts) has been protected so that even an administrator can't write to the hosts file by default. As of Vista (2007, five years ago) accessing anything in system32 was considered to be a really, really, really bad idea and it was only a matter of time before they stopped supporting it. The whole point of Vista was to educate people as to what was bad practice so they would stop doing it and it could be removed.

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    211. Re:Another reason... by TCM · · Score: 1

      Some ISPs ignore the TTL and cache DNS records for much longer. Sometimes days.

      So the answer to stupidity is more stupidity. Great IT skills.

      Also, what makes you think I have control over the TTL setting?

      Well, your post I replied to? Duh..

      I don't run the DNS

      So you are tasked with the move of servers and you don't even control the DNS and you can't even coordinate with the "DNS people"?

      and when I do have that setting available (e.g. at a registrar) I lower it to 300 seconds for the move and that still doesn't help everyone.

      You know you have to lower the TTL and then wait for at least as long as the old TTL was?

      It's not random clients either, it's members of forum communities and it works well for us.

      They're random clients as far as your control over them is concerned.

      Moral of the story: Bad IT at work. q.e.d.

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    212. Re:Another reason... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Spoken like someone who just runs software, they don't test or maintain it for others.

      What do you do when you've got to temporarily change the database host for a single system in a cluster? What if you need to test a dev system in a production environment temporarily to verify a bug quickly? There are many valid reasons for (temporarily) using a hosts file. What if you've got an isolated cluster, separate but a necessary component of an environment, and they shouldn't be in DNS? What if you can only access a system you're prepping for deployment by the production hostname due to SSL restrictions?

      The sane choice is to repoint the hostname to a different IP. Sure, you could do a split view, but for 2-3 hosts? You could update the zone, but for something you don't want to impact the whole environment (and might actually cause problems in and of itself)?

      The hosts file is there for a reason; it is necessary. I can understand why MS is doing what they are, but it's a reactionary security measure to prevent/ reduce malware from working (presumably, though in this case we see that it's only being used to assist in the serving of ads). That certainly does not make it the right choice. Hosts files are a necessary evil.

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    213. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you are saying IT managers should allow DNS through to their servers in DMZs? That is a big mistake waiting to happen.

    214. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your right it's not important how much work gets done as long as the bare minimum does get done.

    215. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Companies allow users to change their internal DNS so all the internal employees get redirect to the wrong place while a single developer is testing a particular connectivity?

    216. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1
      Then try dev1.realdomain.com for internal dev, and dev.realdomain.com for deployed but not released dev, I'm not sure why you require your dev to be externally accessible, I usually do such trickery with internal DNS servers to simulate in dev environment and don't deploy dev machines to the public Internet, but that's just me.

      There's a whole slew of reasons for having a hostsfile (especially for developers) that DNS doesn't solve.

      I've not seen one. I've only seen amateur hacks that some lazy admin thinks is easier in hosts than DNS.

      Or perhaps I need to ensure when I load realdomain.com I go directly to a specific IP address instead of the default one that hits the load balancer.

      See, too lazy to put in s1.realdomain.com and s2.realdomain.com to get to servers 1 and 2 directly. DNS solves it all, but only if you tell it to.

    217. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      They haven't specified a problem to solve here. So my abusive way of exposing their incompetence isn't going to solve anything. A thoughtful expert answer wouldn't solve it either. So I'll stick with what I know, sarcasm and abuse.

      And no, the marketing people don't edit their hosts file, that's up to the IT people who could just manage it all in DNS and never touch user computers, at least that's what the competent admins do.

    218. Re:Another reason... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      The IT people are not going to change it in DNS because that would make the change organization-wide, before marketing has had a chance to proof it. Forcing 5,000 people to see the new web site before it's ready, just so that 3 people can test it, isn't the kind of decision-making that "competent" admins employ.

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    219. Re:Another reason... by afidel · · Score: 1

      Expecting random DNS servers to respect TTL is incompetence if you work in the real world. Whenever I make a DNS change on the public internet I expect that a certain percentage of clients will not be able to reach the new destination for up to 72 hours. Of course if your clients are competent enough to modify a HOST file then you can probably just tell them to point their DNS client at Google's anycast DNS servers which respect TTL.

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    220. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Exactly. This frankly would have been a trivial problem to fix if MSFT would have spent more than 4 seconds to think about it, but ever since Apple came out with iPad the entire corp has lost their damned minds and have focused so much on consumers the thought that businesses might still have use of this never even entered their thought processes.

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    221. Re:Another reason... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      I usually do such trickery with internal DNS servers

      Thats great, but I don't have control over our internal DNS. IT does. However, I do have control over the hostfiles on my local dev workstation, and from there I can toggle to point to my local machine.

      See, too lazy to put in s1.realdomain.com and s2.realdomain.com to get to servers 1 and 2 directly. DNS solves it all, but only if you tell it to.

      That assumes the app you're working responds the same to s1.example.com as it does to www.example.com. That's not always the case. And in the cases where it doesn't, you may not have the authority to change the underlying behavior.

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    222. Re:Another reason... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      If you need PCI slots you best bet would be the ECS Board as it comes with TWO PCI plus a PCIe x16 as well as 4 SATA slots. great for building a mini, not sure what chip it uses for PCI but I think its all AMD so there shouldn't be any hassle if you wanna go Linux. Its also passively cooled so it makes a great silent office box in the corner doing all those little jobs you may need and finally it has the 9w max Brazos chip so it'll idle around 4w.

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    223. Re:Another reason... by afidel · · Score: 1

      Apple's revenue comes from selling ads? Oracle's does? IBM's does?

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    224. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use it to stop Mom from reading my blog.

      As far as she is aware my "awful site" as been offline since May.

      I bet she looks at it from work... And touches herself.

    225. Re:Another reason... by TheRealGrogan · · Score: 1

      I am talking about moving dedicated web hosting servers where we are either using the DNS at the domain registrar or the hosting company. If you consider that being an "IT task" then I'll leave you to your idiotic buzzwords. As for ISPs and their DNS caching, the stupidity would be to do nothing and let the forum users suffer. What part about caching for days don't you understand?

      Moral of the story: The hosts file behaviour will stand, as a defacto standard, and you really don't matter.

    226. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. What idiocy has development not falling under IT? Is it information or technology? Yes? IT? That your company's processes are broken doesn't change best practices. With devs like you, there's a reason IT blocks admin access to devs.

    227. Re:Another reason... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      Tons of places don't mix IT and Dev.

      IT here handles network, server admin, workstation deploy, network credentials, service and hardware provisioning, etc.

      Dev is busy building apps, websites, and more for clients. Different projects have radically different architecture and infrastructure needs. Everything from a simple one-off HTML page to specialized Android builds to run on targeted embedded devices.

      I have root acces to my workstation, and my workstation only. If I need to test something, I can test it on my workstation and not have to commit, get a deploy approved to staging environments, trigger the QA process, etc, etc. I don't, and shouldn't need, DNS admin abilities to do this. Screwing with DNS affects far more people around here than just me.

      I have a real world example for you. I am working on a client's website we inherited a few months ago (~1 million visitors /month) troubleshooting some login issues. Because of the CMS, and a whole lot of legacy code, it currently requires absolute URLs to load resources. We were having a problem with sessions between servers. To isolate the problem, we needed to bypass the load balancer. However, because of absolute URL requirements, the site won't function properly if you visit www1.example.com. The only way for me to bypass the load balancer and ensure I was loading everything from one specific server was to edit my host file.

      Now, short of DNS changes (which I don't have access to because it would affect at least 50 other people in my office and up to 1200 people across our corporate network) or admin access to my client's servers (even the client doesn't directly have this and has to submit formal request changes through their system engineering department) how should I go about guaranteeing I am targeting a specific server?

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    228. Re:Another reason... by TCM · · Score: 1

      Where did you read that I was saying the hosts file is useless?

      You equate development work with expecting your clients(!) to modify their hosts file to compensate for the idiocy of ISPs and "forum admins"? Give me a break and get back under your rock. Thank you.

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    229. Re:Another reason... by TCM · · Score: 1

      Of course if your clients are competent enough to modify a HOST file then you can probably just tell them to point their DNS client at Google's anycast DNS servers which respect TTL.

      See, even in this case there should be no reason to touch the hosts file on a client computer.

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    230. Re:Another reason... by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      You're mean! I bet you hate Pokemon too.

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    231. Re:Another reason... by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      in the case of the host file you could simply require administrator permission.

      They already do. Can we end this stupid discussion now?

      Not until the MyCleanPC guy has his say

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    232. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do a DNS filter right (DPI + intercept all outgoing DNS packets), it is not easy to to override DNS settings (it has no effect). The cheap consumer-brand router at my house can do this, I would be surprised if enterprise packet filters lacked this capability.

    233. Re:Another reason... by ancientt · · Score: 2

      I agree that Windows does have a better firewall than it used to, but saying it is no iptables is an understatement. Blocking incoming traffic is important and blocking outgoing traffic is important but the important thing for me about iptables is the ability to redirect traffic. I redirect traffic coming in on 80 to a completely different machine (or not if it isn't up) and capture outbound DNS and redirect it to my own server. I can do port-knocking to open up ftp, telnet or ssh to only friendly users and turn the rest away. My favorite trick right now is a monitor that looks at my logs and adds the IPs of hacking attempts to a block everything list that is dynamically updated. I write my own tools to some degree, but there are tools to do that reactive blocking automatically that I utilize as well.That the job I want and the Windows firewall is a far cry from capable in that regard.

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    234. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about a rootkit?

    235. Re:Another reason... by msauve · · Score: 1

      So, MS has basically thrown in the towel, admitting that they can't fix the root problem and therefore have reverted to trying to fix the symptoms.

      BTW, I'm not sure you're correct. I'm currently on Win7, and have never had any issue with modifying the hosts file with no special effort, in 95/2K/XP/7, if I have admin rights.

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    236. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I mentioned "broken processes" being a reason to do that. And your example serves more as a poster-boy of broken services than an example where local hosts is absolutely necessary. Not to mention that the hosts issues is only for a small number of phishing-related sites and would likely not affect your example. But a better way would be to put your computer on an exemption list in the load balancer to statically map you to the server to be tested. But then, you do what you have access to, without regards to best practices, so I'm sure you'll argue against that because you don't want to bother getting the load balancer to ensure you always hit the server you want.

    237. Re:Another reason... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      I'm not disagreeing with you here. Just pointing out that GP can most likely dole out some more tasks to a few of his/her employees :P

    238. Re:Another reason... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Dont know about him, but APK seems to have plenty to say about my posts. Not sure if I should be flattered to have my own personal stalker troll, or not.

    239. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problem is know-it-all-admins setting a minimum ttl on their network dns servers, ruining this method for quite a lot of people.

    240. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAIK this is already the case.

    241. Re:Another reason... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I block it at the firewall and transparent proxy. Only a fool will make and maintain a Group policy and or DNS for internet traffic blocking.

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    242. Re:Another reason... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Solution then is to run a Linux Host OS and windows as a VM.

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    243. Re:Another reason... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      "These people defending MIcrosoft's behaviour are just tools... I wouldn't pay much attention to them."

      They are worse than tools. they are MCSE's!

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    244. Re:Another reason... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Nothing that does not have admin rights, in fact no software should be able to modify anything in the system directory from normal runtime. it should require a reboot into safe mode to install updates.

      This will solve 99% of the problem.

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    245. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unsupported file hack that is a configuration file present and used on all sane OS.

      Specially useful if you want to do server testing and need to point one domain from your live server to a qa / test environment, while be able to test on your machine the stated domain.

      But i digress... to macos or ubuntu also... (or something similar if ubuntu keeps "£$$£%%$ up it's OS).

    246. Re:Another reason... by DeathFromSomewhere · · Score: 1

      Nothing that does not have admin rights, in fact no software should be able to modify anything in the system directory from normal runtime

      You could have spent the 30 seconds to verify that this is the case. It would take you less time than writing up that post.

      it should require a reboot into safe mode to install updates.

      That's just ridiculous. There is no reason for that.

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    247. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Far too many, and I always laughed as I circumvented in the past.

    248. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An IT manager worth his salt requires change control on files.
      What Microsoft is doing is broken from a change control perspective, and silently broken at that.

      It's not about using the hosts file as access control.

      It's about not requiring a filewatcher daemon that restores hosts file every second...

    249. Re:Another reason... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      If you do a DNS filter right (DPI + intercept all outgoing DNS packets), it is not easy to to override DNS settings (it has no effect). The cheap consumer-brand router at my house can do this, I would be surprised if enterprise packet filters lacked this capability.

      So basically you're saying I'm right, get the firewall (DPI) to do it. In which case, why even bother with DNS and just set the firewall to drop all packets to/from *.blockedsite.com. If you can bypass the FW (I.E with a VPN) it'll get passed local DNS and GP too.

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    250. Re:Another reason... by jimmyfrank · · Score: 1

      Having to turn off Windows Defender is the nail?

    251. Re:Another reason... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      But a better way would be to put your computer on an exemption list in the load balancer to statically map you to the server to be tested.

      mmhmmm.... and how would that happen exactly? My company is behind a firewall and appear as a single IP. How would you target my machine specifically? And when I need to switch to another server behind the load balancer, or switch back to "normal" operation? Are you honestly suggesting wasting the time of the various admins and approvers multiple times, not to mention making changes to a production environment, just so that a dev doesn't change his host file while troubleshooting?

      The load balancer is managed by a complete different department in the client's company. My contacts don't have direct access and have to formally request changes that can take hours or more to get made. Neither my direct client, nor my company, has the access permissions to make the necessary changes directly.

      Sounds to me like you work in the kind of shop where anyone has access to do anything (and hence break anything) any time they want to any system they want. And you accuse me of not following best practices????

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    252. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Again, your processes and procedural separation is causing you the problems. At least idiots like you keep me in business, as the more idiots there are in IT, the more demand there is for IT (and thus, more idiots, drawn to the money, aim for it).

      What seems to be the best solution to your problem is a customizable web client that can direct a request (GET or POST or whatever you need) to a URL you specify independent of the target IP, then you insert the target IP, which won't be used in the HTTP request. Most assume that the destination IP will be the IP of the requested URL, and I'd have to do more reading of the spec than I care to to determine whether what I suggest is a violation of the protocol, but I'd suspect not, as usually specifications are not so restrictive.

      See, you just invented the "need" for a new program so you don't have to break other things to do what you want. More IT work for us all.

    253. Re:Another reason... by epine · · Score: 1

      It is wise to avoid disparaging what you do not use. You may simply be ignorant.

      I personally refer to this syndrome as "use case blindness".

      We five-digit Hamlets give this lecture a lot to the seven-digit Horatios. That's what made Hamlet so deadly famous for procrastination: don't mess with use cases outside your ken, without pondering the consequences first.

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    254. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      people hate you because you're a loud idiot
      fix either the loud part or the idiot part
      no one is hoping for both

    255. Re:Another reason... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      No, you invented the "need" as you declared the existing well-understood tools that have been available for decades to be unsuitable.

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    256. Re:Another reason... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Just because people use hammers to pound in screws for a long time doesn't mean it is ever right.

    257. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Set your browser's proxy to 127.0.0.1.

    258. Re:Another reason... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      No, Mr Smarty pants, an IT manager wouldn't use the hosts file. If its facbook is already being blocked appropriately with the appropriate tools, then what's the harm in allowing it to be routed to localhost? If facebook is not already being blocked appropriately, what is harm in allowing it to be routed to local host?

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    259. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Malware can easily change the hosts file and screw you up, it's really a hole in name resolution security.

      No, it's just a hole in Windows, where it is trivially easy to gain admin privileges and then make security holes in (relatively) much more painful parts of the system to clean up.

    260. Re:Another reason... by TheHappyHippo · · Score: 1

      Have to say the same. I wouldn't mind a function that can protect that file if enabled(not having to turn Windows Defender on/off for it). Or maybe even be able to protect certain rows in it. If I want to point www.facebook.com to 127.0.0.1 on my computer I should be able to do that. But Microsoft is cutting corners and silently resetting arbitrary items.

    261. Re:Another reason... by godefroi · · Score: 1

      No, it's not part of the "TCP/IP implementation" either, unless you include higher level application protocols (such as DNS) in that "implementation". Let's say, "networking stack", because that would be, you know, correct.

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    262. Re:Another reason... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      I'll look into this. Thanks for the heads up.

    263. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aaron,
      While that may be true in this case, it is still nevertheless true that overall corporate America is selling American's IT products and gizmos that have a super user that isnt them. Consider Amazon and the revoking of books from their Kindle's without the consent of the user. (Kept me from ever buying one of their readers.)

      Or our entire ridiculous "phone" paradigm. I am very much looking forward to Metro so I can throw my phone in the ocean, and simply use Skype or Google voice, or something else that doesnt treat me like I am their bitch like the current phone companies do.

    264. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this

    265. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when can your DNS filter intercept lookups accessing the hosts file?

    266. Re:Another reason... by Slorv · · Score: 1

      >The most annoying thing about these latest versions of Windows is that there appears to be this new class of user with control that supersedes than the owner of the hardware.

      I couldn't agree more. Beeing a mac guy since 6.05 I'm reluctantly realizing that while I haven't yet seen any evidence of a super root in OS-X 10.7 and up unless we actively turn certains functions off we're loosing control over our HW and SW there aswell. And don't come talking about protecting the end-user.

      Linux in the other hand ...

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    267. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please stop comparing security related tools with those that exist in OpenBSD. It's not fair to the others...

    268. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That works perfectly when the change is to be at 6pm on Friday.

      And the request came in at 5:30pm. On Friday.

      And the TTL is 86400 seconds.

      Have fun!

      Host file is only obsolete for the original intent of 'mapping the entire internet'. It's still quite useful for emergency fixes.

    269. Re:Another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like Microsoft, ubuntu changes your files also. Especially on servers unless you prevent it.

  2. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just add the hosts file to the Defender's white list. If you know how to edit the hosts file, you should know how to add it to the white list.

    Otherwise, who says the edits to that file were not malicious.

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why doubleclick? I don't think it makes sense in the context of anti-phishing protection. Both entries stand to make more money by not being blocked in the hosts file.

    2. Re:So... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      No that is the wrong attitude. You shouldn't have to do 'extra' stuff because they are pretty much flipping standards the bird.

      If everyone always just says 'well, we can get around that', we dig the hole even deeper.

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    3. Re:So... by lightknight · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Precisely. It's smells of a bad excuse for some money under the table.

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    4. Re:So... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Any time a system decides to make things more complicated for the end user with no benefits means its time to jump ship to a different system. Just because you -can- perhaps get a work around doesn't make this decision any better. I -could- spend a few hours getting Ubuntu to behave like I want it to, but it makes more sense for me to just jump ship to a better distribution where configuring it to fit my needs takes a couple of minutes of minor changes rather than wasting an entire afternoon to make it behave like it did before the updates ruined it.

      Given how nearly everything is web based, cross platform, able to be emulated via virtualization or WINE or has a Linux/OS X alternative I don't see why anyone would stick with Windows 8 unless you were a gamer.

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    5. Re:So... by scrib · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about this: Windows Defender removes from the hosts file references to well-known and often accessed sites that could be redirected by malware for nefarious purposes?

      I might not want to visit ad.doubleclick.net but I certainly don't want it redirected to some other unknown IP address! Many, many, MANY websites I visit try to pull up links in that domain.

      Perhaps they should make an exception for localhost references, but considering how much of the general population knows about hosts files, I'm inclined to side with GP. Odds are very high that on most machines running Windows Defenders, a redirected ad.doubleclick.net reference is malicious.

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    6. Re:So... by svick · · Score: 1

      Any time a system decides to make things more complicated for the end user with no benefits means its time to jump ship to a different system.

      Really? So, if I don't like this problem with hosts file in Windows, I should switch to another OS, say Linux. Then Linux does some small change that makes it more complicated for me, so I should switch again? To what? Back to Windows? Am I supposed to switch OSes like this every few months?

    7. Re:So... by snemarch · · Score: 1

      If you've been hit by something that's able to modify your hosts file (requiring administrative privileges), worrying about facebook or doubleclick being redirected seems kind of futile.

      OTOH, not being able to retrieve Windows Updates, download MSE and other anti-malware software? That can definitely make a difference. It's dubious, at best, that facebook and doubleclick entries are being removed.

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    8. Re:So... by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Switch to the better Linux distribution. It is unlikely (unless you are writing low level programs) that you will ever have a problem with changes made in the Linux kernel. The biggest problems with Linux distribution are all the UI changes (such as GNOME 3 and Unity). For example, I switched from Vista on my machines to Ubuntu because it took me about 30 minutes to configure a generic Ubuntu install to one that fit my preferences, it took me a good 3-4 hours to configure a Vista install to one that fit my preferences because they system would fight me all the way. A couple of years ago, Ubuntu made a bunch of stupid changes which meant that configuring a new install would take me a good 3-4 hours to configure, configuring a Debian install took only about 30 minutes. Eventually my Debian install became out of date and it made more sense to go to Linux Mint rather than spend 3-4 hours configuring and updating Debian, etc.

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    9. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keywords: straw, camel, back..

    10. Re:So... by svick · · Score: 1

      That's kind of what I was trying to point out in what you were saying. It doesn't make sense to switch because of a small problem, as you were advising. That's because all OSes (or distributions) have them.

    11. Re:So... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      Every web page you visit (practically) has an ad.doubleclick reference. Could be a pretty effective attack vector to spoof them. But, clearly preventing someone from doing this through hosts would not eliminate the ability to do it.

    12. Re:So... by LordLimecat · · Score: 4, Informative

      IIRC doubleclick is Google. Are you seriously implying that MS is in some sort of conspiracy to give more money to Google?

      Stop and think about that for a second, then get back to us once you remove the tinfoil hat.

    13. Re:So... by Targon · · Score: 1

      apt-get dist-upgrade is difficult?
      Or, with Vista, turning off UAC to avoid getting prompted for every change while tweaking the machine? I can understand that some people are allergic to change, but those who are technical enough to be able to handle Linux shouldn't be THAT afraid.

      Now, the Windows 8 UI changes are something to be CONCERNED about, but I suspect that it is more about people not wanting to have to learn something new after so many years with Explorer. Note that Mac people would storm the Apple HQ at this point if Apple were to consider changing the UI for MacOS, it's only been what, 11 years since MacOS X first came out?

    14. Re:So... by Nikker · · Score: 1

      The article may have made a reference to Doubleclick but do you really think Microsoft doesn't have equivalents? When was the last time Microsoft made a decision that did not effect the "bottom line" ? Windows is deployed on at least hundreds of millions of machines world wide, if Microsoft got these ad companies together and told them they could "fix" people trying to block their servers ads you think they would pony up a couple bucks?

      I think you replaced you tinfoil had with a dunce cap.

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    15. Re:So... by Kjella · · Score: 2

      Stop and think about that for a second, then get back to us once you remove the tinfoil hat.

      Aha, it's a conspiracy to make me remove my tinfoil hat!

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    16. Re:So... by Boaz17 · · Score: 1

      Then stop the malicious software from accessing the hosts file. Not that stupid thing.

      Just make sure that only a user with a keyboard can edit the hosts file, the registry and a slew of other system configuration.

      When was second guessing the user ever a security model?

      No The conspiracy theory sounds better in this case I'm afraid. Though the proverb:
            "never account to malice what can be explained by stupidity"
      But this time it sounds like really dumb even for M$

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    17. Re:So... by Beefpatrol · · Score: 1

      It is interesting that MS left the hosts file present and mostly functional if it is useless for everything except malware. I wonder how Win 8 resolves ad.doubleclick.com under normal circumstances. Maybe in Win 8 it resolves to MS's doubleclick equivalent if no entry is present in the hosts file for ad.doubleclick.com and they would rather the user keep it that way. Probably the most telling part of all this is the fact that MS may have decided to override the hosts file according to a plan that can be easily disseminated to machines through anti-malware system updates. How long will it be before they start using that capability in self-serving ways that users don't want? Just think about the rushed and surprise announcement of their Surface tablet announcement when the Nexus 7 was about to get media coverage. They could have made their Nexus 7 blackout attempt more effective by adjusting hosts files remotely.

    18. Re:So... by Idbar · · Score: 1

      And hopefully it's parsed faster/efficiently. I remember spybot used to change the file, and make it ridiculously long, such that windows crawled on the network behavior. The file doesn't support wild card for what I know, making it inefficient for ad blocking tasks. So, I'm fine if they offer other ways for doing that, without the performance hit, and perhaps more efficiently.

    19. Re:So... by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      OR... and I know this may sound crazy... but you could just stick with Windows 7

    20. Re:So... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I have exactly 2 uses for Windows:

      1. Gaming
      2. Finalizing Office documents before they go to the customer.

      Fortunately we do most reports in LaTeX (far more efficient) as the customer does not get the right to edit and only gets a PDF. So of my working time, perhaps 2% is spent with windows. I also should add that most of our customers are still on Office 2003 (do not want to retrain their staff for the atrocity called the "ribbon"), so professionally, I could even work with XP in a VM (and occasionally do). And as to LibreOffice, as soon as MS is forced to actually standardize their file-formats, and get penalized when they sabotage 3rd party apps (as they do regularly and intentionally), MS office will cease to be important. It is significantly worse than the competition anyways.

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    21. Re:So... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The hosts file making things slow??? Have they never heard of hash-tables??? Well, it is Microsoft, so that is a real possibility...

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    22. Re:So... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And how hard do you think it is to check whether it redirects to 127.0.0.1 and if it does leave it be?

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    23. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your modified host file doesn't let you update, you are doing it wrong. I would suggest mvps modified host file. Google it.

      Between that and my favorite AV program, I don't get infected, and I don't get pop ups or ads, and I'm pretty sure that most of the load is carried by the modified host file. I don't get alerts because they never reach my computer.

      This stuff scares the crap out of me.

    24. Re:So... by DeathFromSomewhere · · Score: 2

      The article may have made a reference to Doubleclick but do you really think Microsoft doesn't have equivalents?

      They do have an equivalent. It's called aQuantive. They just wrote it off a month ago.

      When was the last time Microsoft made a decision that did not effect the "bottom line" ?

      Never. Everything AFFECTS the bottom line in some way.

      Windows is deployed on at least hundreds of millions of machines world wide, if Microsoft got these ad companies together and told them they could "fix" people trying to block their servers ads you think they would pony up a couple bucks?

      More likely they would whine to the media and cause a shitstorm. As if people adding doubleclick to their hosts file was ever a major problem in the first place. I'll go out on a limb here and say that browser adblockers are vastly more common.

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    25. Re:So... by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Don't do it man, it's a trap!

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    26. Re:So... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Windows is deployed on at least hundreds of millions of machines world wide, if Microsoft got these ad companies together and told them they could "fix" people trying to block their servers ads you think they would pony up a couple bucks?

      The number of people who block ads with HOSTS is positively miniscule. The number of THOSE who would be thwarted by hosts being unavailable is even smaller.

      The idea that this is somehow a conspiracy for advertising makes literally no sense, as it would help its rival by an infintesimal amount and gain it no money.

    27. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically, grandparent's usage of "effect" is allowable: "When was the last time Microsoft made a decision that did not [cause to come into being] the 'bottom line.'" (And in any case, are there any dialects in which "effect" and "affect" are phonologically distinct? At this point, quibbling about which to use is like quibbling over whether an accidental should be A# or Bb in a piano score.)

    28. Re:So... by niftymitch · · Score: 1

      Every web page you visit (practically) has an ad.doubleclick reference. Could be a pretty effective attack vector to spoof them. But, clearly preventing someone from doing this through hosts would not eliminate the ability to do it.

      One critical key in this is that the issue and risk is not at doubleclick but at one of the many
      cascaded CSS and the embedded JS that these pages contain. We know of
      services and ISPs that rewrite JS on the fly to their own ends and have
      discussed them here. And yes adding JS to this tangle is a distraction but
      necessary to make the point that the masses trust the internet to work and
      their machines to work as expected.

      There is value in this yet the silent un-announced activity that changes
      things behind our collective back is troubling. Clearly this mechanism
      can be employed by law enforcement and others to intercept what
      they might not see in other ways.

      If I know that you have moved... I should be able to send snail mail to
      you with an address I know to be better than yesterday's default.
      you % hotel
      Holiday destination
      foreign shore
      some nation
      planet earth.

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    29. Re:So... by marka63 · · Score: 1

      Then if I'm a black hat I just run a local http server and redirect traffic where I please. Now if applications checked for 0.0.0.0 and :: and didn't make a connection attempt one could use these to indicate that a site is not to be talked to. Unfortunately most applications will happily attempt to connect to 0.0.0.0 and :: and if there is a local service it will succeed.

  3. How will APK react to this? by metrix007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    APK's sole existence seems to be reliant on advocating the hosts file as a means of host filtering, despite more modern, flexible, easier, convenient and powerful alternatives existing.

    How will APK stay relevant with the demise of the hosts file in Windows 8? Stay tuned....

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    1. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      APK? Android application package file?

    2. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      APK is a False Programmer. His very existence degrades the quality of everything in the world.

      He needs to switch to Gamemaker. He needs to return... to Gamemakerdom! Gamemaker can do anything. The HOSTS file is nothing compared to Gamemaker. Gamemaker transforms pathetic, worthless individuals into upstanding True Programmers. There is nothing you cannot accomplish with Gamemaker.

      Return, return, return, return, return to Gamemakerdoooooooooooooooooooom!

    3. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Hosts file blocking is simple and system wide, and requires no daemons or crash-prone hooks into network stacks or browsers. It is hardly antiquated or obsolete.

    4. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Baiting trolls is worse than feeding them.
      Shame on you.

    5. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Are you Jay Little?

      http://www.jaylittle.com/jaylittle/?cmd=article&sub=display&id=30

      Just wondering...

    6. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      OK. This Gamemaker troll takes the cake as the best. Give up on the Gamemaker trolls, because this guy just won it. Next troll, please.

    7. Re:How will APK react to this? by couchslug · · Score: 1, Funny

      There are many ways to maintain a CleanPC.

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    8. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anrego · · Score: 0

      You finally won.. you finally made me google gamemaker and find out what the hell it is (I vaguely knew of it’s existence.. but didn’t really know the details).

      I don't normally like to feed trolls, but I felt congradulations were some how in order in this case...

    9. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Troll's winning here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583 and here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048633 and no one seems to step up to his challenge here either http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048493 Go figure. Despite your down moderations, others are modding him up also.

    10. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Does Gamemaker work with Ninnle Linux?

    11. Re:How will APK react to this? by colinrichardday · · Score: 0

      What about zombo?

      http://www.zombo.com/

    12. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "How will APK react to this?"

      Probably somewhere between orgasmic and nirvana. Not only would his post about host files be completely on topic for once (despite him seeming to make every post except that one here at the moment...), but now he can post 50+ links to this thread in future posts as proof that his posts always being on topic is established "fact." Giving him slashdot posts to link is like giving a meth user some meth.

    13. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I had just assumed APK had submitted this story himself. But then there is a contradiction, did the editors actually edit the story to fix his writing issues, or did he actually write more coherently, and not in third person, for once?

    14. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      At this point, I would like you to share of your knowledge. I have been wondering what it is too, but I am too lazy and too prideful to query it on Google myself.

    15. Re:How will APK react to this? by zippthorne · · Score: 0

      Please name some of them. I haven't done the redirect-to-127..1 thing in a while, but I'd like to be able to block domains if I choose to.

      The built in firewall on my machine can do filtering by IP address rather than by domain name. I think. I haven't perused the documentation extensively yet.

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    16. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I don't think you realise the forces you are dealing with here. You're willingly summoning a creature that will lay waste to the entire thread. Sure, some may try to advert their eyes by setting the threshold above -1. But once you see a 100+ hidden comment reply, the temptations become too great for any mortal to ignore. Next thing you know, the story will be 50% APK posts by count (by volume, it only takes one or two of his posts to reach the 50% range...). God help you if it manages to spill over into other stories like some recent bouts have.

    17. Re:How will APK react to this? by gweihir · · Score: 0

      Using the hosts file this way is legitimate, but a crutch. The real solution is to have an external firewall. Windows cannot really be operated on its own anyways, it is far too retarded. Linux/FreeBDS for the firewall and a fileserver, dual boot to local Linux for trouble-shooting and backup, then Windows begins to approach some reasonable level of usability.

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    18. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      As APK himself points out, it is not that hard for trolls or devious types to get accounts with mod points. Modding up doesn't meant that most people think he is correct... just that a few are trying to encourage him for whatever reason. A few might be the type that rather see someone suffer instead of putting them out of their misery, and try to keep the mess going. Just as trolls mod people down for bad reasons, they mod people up for bad reasons too. In fact, the latter is probably a lot more effective at messing with people.

    19. Re:How will APK react to this? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 0

      Simple.

      Random, flailing, insult-hurling rants directed at n00bs who get infected, random WORDS capitalized AND bolded for no REAson whatsoever, and moments after realizing that his decade old security advice document that was written for Windows 2000 is completely outdated, his head explodes.

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    20. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "In fact, the latter is probably a lot more effective at messing with people."

      Works for me. I don't normally bother posting to these things, I just mod up some of his posts. Modding up once or twice can keep him going at some length about how people support him. No point in spending time replying. Definitely no point in trolling him by modding him down, as normal people will do that any ways. Better to just save up my mod points for a few choice worst posts of his, and let him do that hard work.

    21. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      So the positive benefit of Win 8 is to stop apk from future trolling? Now I'm torn whether I should get it.

    22. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
    23. Re:How will APK react to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
    24. Re:How will APK react to this? by Foxhoundz · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say "demise". All you have to do is disable Windows Defender and install third party AV alternatives, which is the first thing most power users do anyway.

  4. Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Before everyone gets all excited... the article has already been updated with the fact that this is a feature of “windows defender” (and imo a reasonable one) and can be disabled.

    The hosts file is popular for blocking sites, but also popular for redirecting to phishing sites as well. This seems like a very ineffective way of solving that problem, but at least it doesn’t look like there is some evil malicious intent..

    In other news, running certain anti-virus products will prevent you from writing to the boot sector while they are running

    1. Re:Calm down by Truekaiser · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      windows defender is 'part' of windows 8 so it's still correct to say windows 8 does this.

    2. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Really, fucktard? Let's ask all the Linux shitheads how they like Gnome 3 being Linux, 'cause it's in Linux right? That means it's Linux.
       
        Kill yourself.

    3. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Linux isn't an operating system, just a kernel. Fedora 17 is an operating system. Windows is an operating system. All of windows is developed and produced by microsoft.

      I think the point you were tryign to make is that its an optional part of windows.

    4. Re:Calm down by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Informative

      Linux is not owned by a single entity like Windows is.

      Windows is what MIcrosoft says it is because they own it and they can do anything they like with it. If you're offended, your only alternatives are to "hack it" or abandon it.

      There isn't some other pre-packaged variant of Windows you can switch to.

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    5. Re:Calm down by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This seems like a very ineffective way of solving that problem, but at least it doesnâ(TM)t look like there is some evil malicious intent..

      Considering that one of the sites they are unblocking is ad.doubleclick.net (which is often blocked because the user wants it blocked) then Microsoft is taking away an option from the user.

      What will be interesting will be when someone compiles a list of the sites that will be unblocked ... and finds how many BANKS will still be subject to phishing like this ... but ad.doubleclick.net will be protected.

      This is a stupid move by Microsoft done in a stupid fashion.

    6. Re:Calm down by mrnobo1024 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The hosts file can only be modified by administrators. Any additional protection is useless because if malware has gotten itself running as administrator, it can just kill or modify windows defender anyway.

    7. Re:Calm down by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Really, fucktard? Let's ask all the Linux shitheads how they like Gnome 3 being Linux, 'cause it's in Linux right?

      The analogy fails because, while Windows Defender is in Windows 8, Gnome 3 is not in Linux. It may be part of some Linux-based operating systems, but that's a different thing. (Windows 8 is a family of operating system products from Microsoft, Linux is a kernel. And because Linux is an open-source kernel, the variety of operating systems based on it are much bigger than the variety of Windows 8 operating systems.)

    8. Re:Calm down by Firehed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but among the vast majority of users (i.e., not Slashdot readers), the hosts file is an attack vector rather than an adblocker or development tool. All of that security training people should receive around double-checking what's in the address bar goes out the window when the hosts file has been compromised.

      It sounds like MS's security tools have been a bit overzealous in trying to protect this file and can't determine what's a legitimate versus non-legit edit. But it's better to err on the side of being more rather than less secure here, especially with the amount of damage a maliciously-edited hosts file can do.

      Basically: yes, it's Windows 8's fault that this happens, but it's not Microsoft trying to screw you over like the headline makes out. There should be a tool that can edit, save, and sign the hosts file to make this distinction, not entirely unlike visudo - and all operating systems should have something similar. My Cisco VPN client straight-up replaces my hosts file every time I connect, and while I was able to find and update the file it uses to make that less annoying (I have hosts for a lot of VMs in there), the fact that a non-privileged application can do that is quite scary.

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    9. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      So i cant get Linux without Gnome 3?

      Fucktard.

    10. Re:Calm down by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If you can modify the hosts file which should only be able to be edited by an administrator the system has been fully and utterly compromised.

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    11. Re:Calm down by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Basically: yes, it's Windows 8's fault that this happens, but it's not Microsoft trying to screw you over like the headline makes out.

      No, it's Microsoft being stupid and ignoring its own security. If a non-privileged program is permitted to ignore the fact that a file is set to be Read-Only, you have absolutely no protection against malicious code changing anything it wants. All it has to do is infect Windows Defender and it can do anything it wants. If I were still a Windows user, I'd be very reluctant to trust Windows 8 at this point because of this obvious lack of common sense in how it handles this.

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    12. Re:Calm down by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The read-only flag is largely disused. The NTFS permissions are the new one and, oddly enough, it's impossible to write to the hosts file without running as admin and clicking the 'this program wants unrestricted access' dialog. But Microsoft knows just as well as everyone else in IT that to the typical user, that dialog is meaningless: All they know is that clicking yes makes the computer do as it's told.

    13. Re:Calm down by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      I can't write to the boot sector? That's absurd. This is surely going to be the nail in the coffin for Microsoft! Everyone is going to move to OSX and Ubuntu!

    14. Re:Calm down by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      The hosts file can only be modified by administrators. Any additional protection is useless because if malware has gotten itself running as administrator, it can just kill or modify windows defender anyway.

      True, but that's also assuming that all malware is very thorough and well written. While your statement holds true for a targeted attack I don't think it applies generally. Take my father-in-law for example. He thought of himself as being technically competent, and then I show up and make him look like the town fool by comparison. I can't convince him to not run as administrator. My mother-in-law has mentioned that it's partly an ego thing where if he did listen to my technical advice, it means he's not as hot technically as he wants to be. There's a shot in the dark that he'll check AV settings, but there's no way he'd ever open a hosts file or even grep it's contents if he did see it.

    15. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're offended, your only alternatives are to "hack it" or abandon it.

      In this case, your alternative is to disable the feature in question and use an antivirus solution to your liking. This is such a small deal it's incomprehensible why it's even on slashdot. Oh right, we need our 2 minutes Windows 8 Hate (Windows H8?) for the weekend.

    16. Re:Calm down by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 0

      As a long-time Windows user(hey, it's easy, I like it) I see Windows 8 barreling toward us like the four horsemen.

      The interface is pure shit, the compatibility is pure shit, the security is pure shit, and I can't think of a single good reason why XP or 7 is in need of replacing. It is only a move to squeeze more money out of people and push their trendy Apple-wannabe MetroUI, which rightfully never should have leapt off the cell phone to desktop environment....ever.

      Happily written from XP without any fucking colored boxes or Win Defender nonsense.

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    17. Re:Calm down by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      If a non-privileged program is permitted to ignore the fact that a file is set to be Read-Only, you have absolutely no protection against malicious code changing anything it wants.

      Im going to go out on a limb and say you have no idea what youre talking about-- primarily because you seem to think that Windows Defender is non-privileged. It would be a pretty sorry anti-malware / virus software that ran in user-mode.

      Im going to go further out on a limb here and say that Defender probably runs with System rights, and can do pretty much whatever it wants from a OS security perspective.

    18. Re:Calm down by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      So basically they're stopping malware from redirecting doubleclick or facebook links to their own scam sites?

      So...I guess strike 3 for the M$ conspiracy theorists.

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    19. Re:Calm down by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Im going to go out on a limb and say you have no idea what youre talking about-- primarily because you seem to think that Windows Defender is non-privileged. It would be a pretty sorry anti-malware / virus software that ran in user-mode.

      Not much of a limb, considering that I stated that I no longer use Windows.

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    20. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much like /etc/hosts on *nix systems, %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts is only writable by privileged users/programs. Anything that would have access to write it would also have access to un-mark it as read-only (since it would also have full access to the parent directory).

    21. Re:Calm down by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Within NTFS permissions, an explicit "Deny" will take priority over an explicit "Allow". Have they even tried flagging the file with deny writes? In theory, that should prevent modifications to the file.

      It's a pain in the ass, but you could always reset the NTFS permissions via ownership and inheritance each time you wanted to make or change an entry to the host file.

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    22. Re:Calm down by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      If a non-privileged program is permitted to ignore the fact that a file is set to be Read-Only, you have absolutely no protection against malicious code changing anything it wants

      Windows Defender is a system process and likely runs as the System user, a special account used by non-interactive services that require Administrative privileges.

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    23. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think Windows Defender is non-privileged? Really?

    24. Re:Calm down by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2

      Not using Windows is irrelevant.

      Any security software, by definition, and regardless of operating system, has to have access to the entire system, ergo, needs system rights.
      The fact that you missed this has nothing to do with your lack of Windows knowledge, and everything to do with your lack of security knowledge.

      I'd say that's quite the limb, after all.

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    25. Re:Calm down by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      You have to think about what happens AFTER the malware is removed though(and this seems to be the issue that Microsoft is addressing) If the hosts file was not modified/restored after getting rid of the malware, then any sort of malicious entries it put into the hosts file will remain even after the initial attack agent is gone.

    26. Re:Calm down by crutchy · · Score: 1

      the real problem is that for malware to be able to corrupt the hosts file it would also require admin priveliges... how the hell does malware get admin priveliges? maybe its the bullshit click through privelige escalation where users just click "allow" without having any idea or even caring what it means...

      schnier has a name for these kinds of garbage security measures (including "protection" of the hosts file)... "security theater"

    27. Re:Calm down by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Not much of a limb, considering that I stated that I no longer use Windows.

      Maybe you shouldnt comment on the state of OS security for an OS you know nothing about, then.

    28. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be interested to know if anyone had done this. In fact, I'd assume that setting the System account to have just read-only to hosts should do the trick.

    29. Re:Calm down by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Easily done, but then the malware would simply change the permissions on the host. Or right now, it might disable windows defender. Any account in the administrators group can do that. The problem is that, due to legacy issues, Microsoft is doing it's permissions backwards: Rather than making it possible to provide non-administrator users with more granular access, they are instead having to find ways to restrict what the administrator account can do.

    30. Re:Calm down by flirno · · Score: 1

      This is microsoft shifting the nature of the OS from what it has been historically to a marketing app-fest.

    31. Re:Calm down by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      To my knowledge, malware would not be able to change permissions on its own because it would have to run under the user credentials currently logged in. Even logged in with Administrative access, UAC would not allow a program to "sudo" execute on behalf of the user. In theory at least. Though I suppose the user could be tricked into the process via malware at which point they're walking their PC off a cliff anyways.

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    32. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Yes, but among the vast majority of users (i.e., not Slashdot readers), the hosts file is an attack vector rather than an adblocker or development tool."

      You could say the same thing about Internet Explorer.

    33. Re:Calm down by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

      I know this is /. but at this point and time there is no need to defend the knowledge/usage of Windows. You would have to be living under a rock for the past 20 years to not know about Windows and no serious IT person could make the claim that they don't know how to use it.

      I can accept the fact that there might be very serious IT people out there who do not know Windows as well as *nix or even MacOS, but that they would not know and or have used Windows is just silly.

      Finally you do need to move away from XP. It has reached its end of life in terms of support and if a 0 day exploit comes around, MS is not obligated to patch it for you. Move to Win7. It is a solid OS and you can even tweak the UI to make it look very close to XP if you need.

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    34. Re:Calm down by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The user credentials currently logged in are not able to write to the hosts file anyway, unless the user is logged in as a member of the administrators group. So if the extension of system file protection to the hosts file is supposed to stop malware, it can only be concluded it is intended to stop malware that already has some way (probably via dumb user) to run as administrator.

    35. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC, Windows Defender runs in an even more privileged mode than Administrator (the SYSTEM account, I think). Malware running as administrator can't just kill it (access denied or WD restarts itself) and disabling the service causes a UAC prompt and a visible warning, which is bad if the malware is trying to go undetected (which it probably is if it's modifying the HOSTS file)

    36. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Bring that BLOWHARD Scheier in here, I'll burn his ass too...

      APK

      P.S.=> Especially on custom HOSTS files - he wouldn't be the 1st "Big Name" or even PhD I've blown away on things computing... apk

    37. Re:Calm down by crutchy · · Score: 1

      P.S.=> Especially on custom HOSTS files - he wouldn't be the 1st "Big Name" or even PhD I've blown away on things computing... apk

      ummm... no he's just one of the (if not the) most respected experts in security in general. why the fuck would he give a shit about you and your custom hosts files? maybe you should introduce yourself to iptables, which does everything that hosts can do and more. if you came up with some good iptables scripts, who knows, some people may actually take you slightly seriously.

      dude... do you have ANY real friends? i bet blathering on about how you "burn asses" of "blowhards" on slashdot with your custom hosts file godliness goes down great with the ladies :)

    38. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux is not owned by a single entity like Windows is.

      Windows is what MIcrosoft says it is because they own it and they can do anything they like with it. If you're offended, your only alternatives are to "hack it" or abandon it.

      There isn't some other pre-packaged variant of Windows you can switch to.

      Well..... Previous versions?

    39. Re:Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows doesn't have the equivalent of root ignoring all ACLs. Unless the firewall was specifically coded to check for a deny write rule and change it back, it would be prevented from changing the file.

      This is a good way to break most Windows components should you ever need to as Microsoft almost never bothers.

  5. This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As comments in the article point out, this behavior can be turned off by going to the Windows Defender settings... But by and large this make sense for 95% of Windows users as they will have NO clue about the hosts file, and even less of a clue if it has been modified for a phising attack. Nice to see microsoft take another step forward in protecting the blindingly ignorant and inept.

    1. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by lowlymarine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly, this is a perfectly reasonable anti-phishing measure that can be easily disabled, as is clearly explained in the linked article. But hey, we can't have any such pesky facts sneak into a /. summary, it might stymie some good old-fashioned MS bashing.

    2. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do local phishing attacks usually try to hijack doubleclick?

    3. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A much better solution would be to alert the user -- in plain and simple English -- that something important has been modified on their system, ideally also telling them what program made the modification. Windows Defender could let the user know "it's been handled" and no need to worry, but at least the user would know something is not right on their system. If it keeps happening, then the user knows they have some sort of malware they need to deal with.

      This modern design motif of "protect the user but don't tell them something attacked them" is bad design. It is a reflection of the blinding ignorance and ineptness of the current generation of UX people.

    4. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't they build the feature to prompt the user? "Your hosts file has been modified to add xyz/delete xyz. Windows Defender can restore the file to its previous state. If you would like Windows Defender to restore the file, click OK, otherwise click CANCEL to keep the changes." Beyond host blocking, many people doing local web development use this. Of course, many people doing web development are now Mac users.

    5. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      You mean that not only Microsoft introduced a whole new concept on how to be unsafe in internet, but that also is enabled by default? And that does it specifically for the windows users that are clueless?

      Hope it don't get widespread, or car makers will start to remove the safety belt because is too hard for clueless people to use it.

    6. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      As comments in the article point out, this behavior can be turned off by going to the Windows Defender settings... Nice to see microsoft take another step forward in protecting the blindingly ignorant and inept.

      No, a step forward would be requiring administrator rights to write to the file, and then ensuring admin access is granted only when actually needed. Please, understand this: If you've got software modifying your hosts file, then Windows Defender hasn't done its job and you've got much bigger problems already.

    7. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Firehed · · Score: 2

      Prompting users to make security decisions means you have less security. If Defender prompted you every time it was blocking a write to a sensitive/monitored file, most people (the ones that really need the extra security software) would be inundated with requests eventually causing them to hit allow every time just to make the dialog boxes go away.

      There should be a comment in the hosts file indicating how to opt-out of this behavior, but I think what Microsoft has done here is both reasonable and a good security decision. People doing local dev work (myself included, although I don't do web development on Windows) would see the comment and how to disable things, and the rest of the world would have a secure, non-compromised hosts file - as they should.

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    8. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Firehed · · Score: 1

      It's a reflection of the fact that people don't want to deal with security. It working silently in the background and staying out of your way whenever possible is absolutely the right decision, or else the protections would all get turned off because they'd be so damn annoying.

      If you got a pop-up every time your firewall blocked a port scan, wouldn't you inevitably turn off your firewall?

      Thought so.

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    9. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      You do need admin rights to edit it - it's nested in the system folders, on both Windows and Unix.

      It does this for Facebook - you could argue that was reasonable, because it prevents malicious software redirecting you and phishing your Facebook password.

      But it also does this for Doubleclick, which sounds more like someone sucking up to their corporate partners.

    10. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by wolrahnaes · · Score: 2

      It seems to make sense. Inject your own ads in place of one of the most popular ad networks. Any other content you want to bundle along with those ads you can as well of course.

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    11. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by wolrahnaes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But it also does this for Doubleclick, which sounds more like someone sucking up to their corporate partners.

      You do realize who owns DoubleClick, right? Google. Not exactly a partner of Microsoft. Microsoft has their own ad network that competes with DoubleClick, so that part actually helps make a case to me that this was not ill-intentioned.

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    12. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by fermion · · Score: 1

      True. I am not sure how popular the Host file is. I don't talk about it, but I do use it to block web sites. When I do talk about it with Windows admins, most do not know what I am talking about or how it can be used. Also, i seem to recall that spybot S&D did some magic to keep the integrity fo the Hosts file from changes.

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    13. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by nobodyman · · Score: 1

      Wow. "blindingly ignorant and inept" seems a bit strong for someone whose crime against humanity is not knowing what a hosts file does. Honestly this sort of statement typifies what's wrong with IT.

    14. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Because noone will know what HOSTS is-- mostly because its a largely disused relic from an age before DNS, and is basically only used by poorly written DOS-era programs (which are still DNS-ignorant) and a niche of geeks who seem to think it somehow superior to firewall rules or adblock lists.

    15. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The software needs to be intelligent. There is a vast landscape of notification interruption cost between "tell me nothing no matter what" and "tell me about everything no matter what".

      If an important file on my system is being changed, then it should be something that the security software needs to make a decision regarding whether to tell me or not. Such changes may be a precursor to phishing attack that targets by bank, Dropbox, etc. If I were designing the system, I'd set up a threat rating heuristic to look at how often the hosts files is being changed, by what app, what the changes were, etc. When the threat rating reaches a certain threshold, I'd inform the user, at the same time offering to block the app from changing the hosts file, amongst other actions.

      Not informing the user at all is bad design. Informing the user about things that are trivial is bad design. Notifying the user when something happens/changes that the user should be aware of... that is good design. It takes work to come up with good design. Companies like Apple and Microsoft do not do this work (*). But this doesn't mean good design isn't worth doing. It only says that Apple and Microsoft don't care enough to spend money on it.

      *Apple and Microsoft have areas where they do good design, but neither does good design when it comes to security.

    16. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by nzac · · Score: 1

      Yes this is good idea for the general public but it is the worst way to do it.
      Modifying a user edited text-file silently before it gets used by the system is just crappy for everyone.
      The better solution would be to ignore the "bad" entries or make host file redirections an error and not follow them. This alerts the user that their computer may have been compromised and give them opportunity to turn it off though some difficult method.

    17. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Because that sort of functionality worked so well for user morale with UAC in Vista, right?

    18. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by fnj · · Score: 0

      No. Just no. The hosts file is one of the most fundamental STANDARDS in TCP/IP networking.

      Now more than ever, anyone who uses Windows is either a clueless moron or is FORCED into it because of some program he HAS to use which is Windows-only.

      The take-home message is the fact that Microsoft thought they NEEDED to do this because their OS design is so shitty. Nobody using a REAL OS has to lay awake at night worrying that some "malware" might mess with his hosts file. The idea of such a blatant fundamental design defect is ludicrous.

    19. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now more than ever, anyone who uses Windows is either a clueless moron or is FORCED into it because of some program he HAS to use which is Windows-only.

      Did you scratch your neckbeard when you wrote that?

    20. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it can't. The only way to disable it is to turn off Windows Defender entirely. There is no way to tell Windows Defender to leave the hosts file alone.

    21. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      yes, it is a url used on millions of websites, hijacking an ad allows them to redirect to their own content or have millions of sites that would trigger whatever else they want.

    22. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't they build the feature to prompt the user? "Your hosts file has been modified to add xyz/delete xyz. Windows Defender can restore the file to its previous state. If you would like Windows Defender to restore the file, click OK, otherwise click CANCEL to keep the changes."

      People are stupid! - They don't read the popup and just blindly click OK, CANCEL or whatever the option is.

      I remember a test where a bunch of people were 'infected' with a small program that basically just randomly displayed a popup with a huge warning in bold letters and lots of red NOT to click the OK button but to press to make the dialog go away. Almost 70% clicked the button anyway. Go figure.

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    23. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Don't forget IT quacks like APK who make it their religion.

    24. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you got a pop-up every time your firewall blocked a port scan, wouldn't you inevitably turn off your firewall?

      Not a good analogy. Port scans happen all the time, they are business as usual, and having to block them does not mean your machine is compromised.

      Host file updates (which you have not made yourself) should only occur on the hopefully rare occasions when malware is in the process of infecting your machine and this means your machine is already compromised, and you should be told this (even though many people will ignore it, others may ask a friendly nerd or similar to 'take a look')

    25. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      The hosts file is one of the most fundamental STANDARDS in TCP/IP networking.

      No, its not. I challenge you to find me in the TCP or IP specifications where it is so core. It has nothing to do with packet structure, headers, payload, or anything else remotely "core" on TCP / IP, and is only defined in 2 auxiliary RFCs.

      If it were "fundamental", you would have a HOSTS file on Cisco routers and all firewall appliances, but apart from BSD and Linux based distros I cannot think of a one that has such a thing (Cisco DOES have static name mappings, but its not a "HOSTS file", nor does it meet the spec AFAIK).

      The take-home message is the fact that Microsoft thought they NEEDED to do this because their OS design is so shitty.

      The takeaway is that microsoft made a rather small error, and most people on slashdot utilizing HOSTS are armchair IT admins who have no idea how networking works or why HOSTS is a terrible idea (at least for the last 10 years).

    26. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "The hosts file is one of several system facilities that assists in addressing network nodes in a computer network. It is a common part of an operating system's Internet Protocol (IP) implementation, and serves the function of translating human-friendly hostnames into numeric protocol addresses, called IP addresses, that identify and locate a host in an IP network." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file)

      You also you didn't do very well vs. apk on the 'armchair admin', you mere amateur, here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 either.

    27. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      If it is not a standard, why doesn't Microsoft remove hosts file completely instead of imposing this ugly hack ?

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    28. Re:This makes sense... for (most) Windows users by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      But MS is moving to an app-store model. Where some apps might be ad-supported. Crippling hosts way of ad blocking can give confidence to potential app developers about revenue stream .E.g. hosts way of ad blocking is quite popular in Android (rooted, of course).

      This is as ill-intentioned as they come, especially the SILENT ignore part.

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  6. Adobe's Activation Servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Prepare them for the shitstorm.

  7. Bad/lazy programming by bobbutts · · Score: 2

    This seems like one of those situations where someone didn't think of the potential side effects. The goal was to fix some attack on specific sites, but the solution failed to consider that the mere presence of entries like Facebook is not enough to determine of the entry is in fact malicious and/or unintended. Security and expected behavior is compromised in too high a number of situations to use this software imo.

    1. Re:Bad/lazy programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You going to build something better, or suggest how it'd be improved, or are you just going to tell us why it's bad?

    2. Re:Bad/lazy programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Didnt think"...yes ... that summarises this kind of change. A very strong defense mechanism has been rendered useless by the tool that is designed to protect us.

      I strongly believe this is not April. And its not April fools day. But I cannot understand Windows 8 - was it an in-joke in Microsoft?

    3. Re:Bad/lazy programming by bobbutts · · Score: 1

      If it's me in charge of the software, I'd omit the feature and most likely never implement it.
      The most obvious solutions would be to prompt the user before modifying the file, but considering the target argument that is not realistic.
      I can't think of any sufficiently reliable way to protect against rogue entries here automatically since they essentially look the same as intentional ones. Maybe there's a way I'm not thinking of.
      Since it's base software included with the OS, it should be solid for a very high percentage of users, not simply ok for most people.

    4. Re:Bad/lazy programming by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. Server settings are completely off-limits for any amount of automated changes unless an admin user specifically requests it. That is how any sane OS handles it.

      Although there are severe violations of that in the Linux world as well. I recently nearly went crazy until I found out that dependency-based booting removed my own boot scripts. Admittedly, just the symbolic links were removed but still. Or the things udev does. Automagic is nice if it works and a huge, huge pain when it does not. It must never be used unless really important for the task at hand and very obviously in place. (I admit that I did not look at the README in /etc/rc2.d for the dependency based boot. Force of habit.)

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  8. Well, I can kinda see why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since, in the vast majority of cases, having facebook.com or doubleclick in the hosts file is the result of malware, Windows Defender is undoing what is likely malicious work. But... it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

  9. was going to buy, not interested now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was planning to buy the upgrade from Win7 to Win8. Now I won't.

    1. Re:was going to buy, not interested now by artor3 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Were you really? Why?

    2. Re:was going to buy, not interested now by NemosomeN · · Score: 1

      Is anyone seriously this flaky? If you decided not to buy because of this, you were likely to change your mind later when you saw am ugly cursor or renamed mspaint or some other nonsense.

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    3. Re:was going to buy, not interested now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, think about it: They were planning on upgrading in the first place. So yes, in that case I CAN imagine them being flaky and brain-damaged enough to react like that to that sort of change.

    4. Re:was going to buy, not interested now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My reason for planning to upgrading from Win7 to Win8 is that I've been reading that the performance is leaps and bounds ahead of Windows 7, faster boot times and better performance for games (I'm a big gamer). Also, I make a living developing software for Windows so I can't afford to not stay up on their latest technologies. And, the fact that MS is going to let Win7/XP users upgrade to Win8 Pro + Media Center for $40 until Jan 2013 was just icing on the cake. This is probably their most affordable upgrade ever and they never give out media center free, that's something you have to pay a pretty high premium to get normally. It just goes to show how desperate they are and/or how little confidence they have in their new OS, which is sad.

      I was planning on turning off "metro" (I guess we're calling this "Modern UI User Interface" (I really saw this in their new documentation LOL) now?) and using the Win7-style UI. Also, even though they are butchering the Start button I was probably going to add it back in with one of the various modifications around. Though, I'd probably give metro a try for awhile, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense for a non-touchscreen desktop.

      And, in response to the other guy who replied below (NemosomeN) the reason this is a problem for me is because UI annoyances are something I can try to get used to or modify, but changing access to something as fundamental as the hosts file which can be used to block malicious sites, correct host lookups, etc is a dealbreaker for me. I've personally used this a few times in the past myself to force lookups for domains to point to the correct IP when having DNS troubles, or to add a machine lookup locally.

      And, yes, I know that its a feature that can be disabled and/or don't use defender, but I'm putting my foot down on them tampering with features that we expect to keep working correctly. A majority of users won't realize this feature is on, and it's going to cause headaches. The people arguing that this is a great thing for 95% of people because they lack the intelligence to use this correctly or are being sabotaged by phishing attacks that alter this file are wrong because it does more harm than good. For example, if you're an average user and were to install spybot s&d and tell it to immunize your hosts file against malicious sites and then started visiting sites and then encountered a malicious site that would have been blocked but which is now allowed, now suddenly you receive a drive-by trojan when you thought you were protected.

      I don't think it's actually a good thing for a majority of users, it does more harm than good. Also, most antivirus or antimalware programs handle this correctly by blocking modifications to hosts on a case-by-case basis, detecting instead the domain being added to the hosts file and realizing it points to a maleware site and preventing it (malwarebytes/avast/antivir/gdata/bitdefender, etc) or asking the user if they want to allow it (e.g. comodo firewall/ids), instead of preventing *all* modifications to this file entirely.

  10. MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, this is basically a cack-handed way of fixing malicious hosts redirects.

    It'll prevent malicious programmes from sending you to fake Facebook, but at the expense of entirely overriding any preferences YOU as tthe computer owner might wish to make via the Hosts file.

    It's a staggering level of incompetence that this is their solution. It needs to be changed and they need to find either another way of solving it or allow some form of granulation and user input.

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    1. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Why should they cater to power users and developers? They all left MS software for modern alternatives over a decade ago. This just means my poor cousins don't get caught by as many keyloggers and fake logins so I don't have to clean up their computers.

    2. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      It'll prevent malicious programmes from sending you to fake Facebook

      No, it will not. If a malicious program is writing to your hosts file then it can also disable Windows Defender or just white-list itself or the hosts file. There's no reason to buy tickets to this security theatre.

      /me eats popcorn.

    3. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IPv6 has not been tested, it could still work. e.g.:

      ::1 ads.doubleclick.net

    4. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1

      Replying to myself - apparently the way to fix this, in the short term, is to take control of the Hosts file and then kick the system out of write and modify privilleges.

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    5. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      It'll break some existing malware. It'll take the authors a week or so to adapt, and then a few more weeks for the scammers to deploy patches. Doesn't seem worth the effort, really.

    6. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      No, it will not. If a malicious program is writing to your hosts file then it can also disable Windows Defender or just white-list itself or the hosts file.

      One does not follow from the other. The HOSTS file is just a file, and can be written by anything with administrative priveleges. Antivirus software tends to be much harder to disable than simply "get admin, and disable"-- there can be boot-time drivers that prevent such tampering.

    7. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      If anyone is considering trying this, I highly recommend you leave SYSTEM read privileges in there if you want it to continue to work.

    8. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are practically monthly updates that fix privilege escalation bugs for Windows. As long as you executed something you shouldn't have on your PC, you're fucked. Preventing HOSTS file tempering will only destroy the malwares written by lesser programmers and script kiddies. It won't prevent someone who's motivated enough to fuck with you.

    9. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by firewrought · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, this is basically a cack-handed way of fixing malicious hosts redirects.

      Every OS does this: starts out with a simple (possibly easy-to-understand) model and evolves to something with more and more layers of cruft. It's called technical debt, and the long-term consequences are that these systems become harder to learn and understand.

      Linux is better than Windows in this regard, but open source is by no means immune to crud formation. The maintenance tools for Debian packaging and the GNU Build System come to mind.

      Which brings me to my rant: in order to remain viable as a hobbyist OS, Linux should strive to simplify and remove "stupid complexity" that needlessly hinders technical understanding of its internals. I'm not speaking of user-friendliness per se (because that's a term that we use in reference to end users), I'm talking about removing complexity that isn't inherently necessary for the purpose of the system.

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    10. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Properly this is a task of the firewall settings. But there seems to be no easy way to tell the firewall to do it. (Yes, there will be some way, but who wants to spend an hour of research time just to find it?) I have to admit I have given up on Windows in this regard. It is just a toy that needs protection by something more professional. That is why I have a proper firewall between it and the Internet.

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    11. Re:MSE: Microsoft Screws Everything by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      There are practically monthly updates that fix privilege escalation bugs for Windows.

      Source, please. Malware has largely evolved to run userland precisely because of UAC, and AFAIK escalation bugs remain quite rare on most systems, including windows

  11. Where do WE want you to go to today? by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hope you enjoy your new 'media consumption appliance'. Its becoming less and less of a 'general purpose computer' every day.

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  12. The internet (or networks) are more than the web by vlm · · Score: 1

    The internet (or networks in general) are more than the web.

    The main problem I see is I've never worked at a place without an airgapped or at least hyperfirewalled production/engineering network. Its actually pretty rare for that design to have a DNS server on the private net. So host file distribution is popular. As is forcing people to use/memorize ip addresses. After all, its not like a "computer" could automate hostname lookups or something like that, and enforcement and procedures give management something to do.

    Anyway sounds like upgrading a production network from hosts files to DNS system suddenly got a whole lot more exciting if you've got windows 8.. Then again, people who use windows for production are pretty much already used to suffering and intense pain, so making it even less ready for the enterprise is not so big of an idea.

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  13. APK reacts FINE (it's not my "sole existence") by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just fine - I've done a number of posts on the source site already, posting portions of what I have here a ton of times (mind you, which my "skeptic naysayers" here haven't disproven a single shred of to date)... I'm just waiting for the page to update for responses I gave others there (takes time on some boards, part of what I LIKE about /. is "instant on" with posts).

    It's not a "demise" by the by - MS Sec Essentials is the KEY "workaround"... so you know. There's another I posted but it hasn't come up yet there (databasepath parm in tcp/ip parms in registry & redirecting it).

    You obviously also aren't aware of some of my posts over time here. I've been "into" a LOT more than hosts my man... a LOT more. I'll post some for YOUR reference after this post as an "addendum"... fair enough? Good.

    Anyways:

    Do I *like* what I saw on Win8 there? Heck no... especially NOT on hosts files!

    However/Then again??

    MS "fanboy" extraordinaire here or not??

    I don't think much of Win8, due to "METRO"! Man, I've said it before - MS has to get rid of Mr. Ballmer & his crew responsible for it... too far, too fast, not enough market on PC's yet for touch screen (tablets, & phones, yes... PC OS? No!)

    Not that he's some evil guy, in fact, I hear he's a hell of a NICE guy who's great @ grooming mgt. talent (& that's also from an MS mgt. man named Foredecker who posts here or did). I've said this many times here before in fact.

    However - He's not a "King Billy" calibre man, who was a computer coder/technologist AND business man... that's what MS needs.

    Fact is - of ALL the MS guys I am aware of, personally or otherwise?

    I hope Russinovich, former "co-worker" of mine thru Sunbelt where we sold wares together takes over 1 day. We've had diff.'s over time, but he'd get MY vote.

    Anyways - Pity is, Win8 "under-the-covers" is BETTER than Win7 even in a LOT of ways, such as "self-terminating services"!

    (Which tuners/tweakers like myself have been into for decades, ala my guides for it from 1997 onwards, & I'd be as bold to say they WERE the 1st of their kind, as I have yet to find older ones).

    Proofs: I.E./E.G.-> I have done so since 1997-1998 with the most viewed, highly rated guide online for Windows security there really is which came from the fact I also created the 1st guide for securing Windows, highly rated @ NEOWIN (as far back as 1998-2001) here:

    http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text

    & from as far back as 1997 -> http://web.archive.org/web/20020205091023/www.ntcompatible.com/article1.shtml which Neowin above picked up on & rated very highly.

    That has evolved more currently, into the MOST viewed & highly rated one there is for years now since 2008 online in the 1st URL link above...

    Which has well over 500,000++ views online (actually MORE, but 1 site with 75,000 views of it went offline/out-of-business) & it's been made either:

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    1.) An Essential Guide
    2.) 5-5 star rated
    3.) A "sticky-pinned" thread
    4.) Most viewed in the category it's in (usually security)
    5.) Got me PAID by winning a contest @ PCPitStop (quite unexpectedly - I was only posting it for the good of all, & yes, "the Lord works in mysterious ways", it even got me PAID -> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2007/09/04/pc-pitstop-winners/ (see January 2008))

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    Anyhow/anyways, all that aside?

    My std. post on hosts, of course...

    For those of you that run Microsoft Windows 32 or 64 bit? An automated hosts file creation & mgt. program:

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    APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:

    Sc

    1. Re:APK reacts FINE (it's not my "sole existence") by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Oh come on, this time he does not deserve to be modded down as Troll, in this discussion his point of view is relevant (regarless of whether you agree or even think he's a crackpot). Also, he was *summoned* by the GP, so give him a break.

    2. Re:APK reacts FINE (it's not my "sole existence") by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      10-15 minutes on a 2.67GHz quad core? That's horrendously slow. Surely you mean 10-15 seconds, no?

    3. Re:APK reacts FINE (it's not my "sole existence") by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, he was *summoned* by the GP, so give him a break.

      I now have this image of the GP looking into a mirror chanting "APK. APK. APK."...

  14. MS dog shit cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One workable OS, which is substandard to the competition but perfectly usable, then the next is a complete turd (ME, Vista, 8).

    1. Re:MS dog shit cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I need a -1, Shit mod.

  15. Another reason to skip Windows 8 by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is another good reason to stick with Windows 7, giving Windows 8 a miss.

    One common use of the hosts file is to test staging servers, particularly web servers before pushing them live, and without the complexity and time it takes to set up an additional DNS server.

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    1. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by Geeky · · Score: 1

      I was about to post the same thing, as I'm often tinkering with the hosts file in a development setting just because it's quick and easy, but from at least one comment above it does appear that it's possible to turn this behaviour off.

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    2. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Yep. After Windows 7 I actually thought Microsoft was getting better, after all IE is now actually usable, Windows Phone 7 is actually pretty neat (not good enough to replace my Android phone, but not the buggy crap which was the old Windows Mobile). But Windows 8 just seems to be stupid decision after stupid decision. I don't think I've really seen a decent idea implemented in Windows 8 so far...

      --
      Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
    3. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is another good reason to stick with Windows XP, giving Windows 8 a miss.

      Fixed that for you.

    4. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by vux984 · · Score: 1

      You don't even have to turn it off unless you are staging for facebook.com or something like it.

    5. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      No, its another reason to say "wow, Slashdot really likes to make mountains out of molehills".

      Is this retarded and probably not terribly useful? Yeah. Is it terribly noteworthy, except for a very few people who still rely on something as arcane as HOSTS filtering? No, not really.

      The reason to skip Win8 is the training overhead and the massive mess that is the new GUI. Changes to the way HOSTS files are dealt with dont really fit my top 100 things that I care about, because if I want something blocked Ill use a system that is actually designed for it-- not some stupid hack for a kludgy system thats been outdated for about 20 years (Protip: redirecting to 127.0.0.1 is NOT what it was designed for, and is a retarded method for people who dont understand networking; 0.0.0.0 is slightly better, but still a stupid way of filtering).

    6. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      I was about to post the same thing, as I'm often tinkering with the hosts file in a development setting just because it's quick and easy,

      This is why dealing with devs can be painful. Just request that the IP be added to DNS so that the IT admin can actually reprovision IPs without having to check each and every PC for custom HOSTS.

      This is why one of my clients is such a pain to deal with; we could rearchitect the network into something less painful, but each developer seems to think its a good idea to ignore DNS and directly refer to server IPs. Which is great, up until those IPs change.

    7. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, first off, you don't need an entire "DNS Server", you need a DNS entry on an existing server. Web developers who don't understand the basics of DNS should neither be web developers, nor editing a HOSTS file.

      Your code should be portable enough that you can move it between domains with minimal effort, and your staging server should have a fixed name, as should your production server. It's not tough to do it right.

      The hosts file is a kludge, and if you need it daily in an enterprise, your enterprise needs to revisit the concept of DNS, and why you're doing it wrong.

    8. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by SEE · · Score: 1

      Ballmer took over as CEO, and Microsoft released Windows Me nine months later which was actively stupid.

      Me was followed with XP, which was not actively stupid.

      XP was followed by Vista, which was actively stupid.

      Vista was followed by 7, which was not actively stupid.

      7 is being followed by 8. Hey, guess what? It's Actively Stupid's turn again.

    9. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by Geeky · · Score: 1

      It's only my laptop, and I'm expected to know what I'm doing - if I break something, I'm expected to fix it. When it comes to reprovisioning, the IT admins just re-image from a master copy so they don't care in the slightest what I've been doing.

      --
      Sigs are so 1990s. No way would I be seen dead with one.
    10. Re:Another reason to skip Windows 8 by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      It's only my laptop, and I'm expected to know what I'm doing

      Now imagine I have to coordinate with 30 other users with the same attitudes, and different hosts files on each, and you will begin to understand why this is a manageability nightmare.

      Its not that you dont know what youre doing, and Im not saying that. There is just no easy way in that scenario for me to reprovision a server IP without tons of manual labor, and reimaging a dev laptop for a DNS change sounds like an enormously bad idea ("where did all my source code go?").

  16. Addendum (for metrix007/funnyman's reference) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "APK's sole existence seems to be reliant on advocating the hosts file as a means of host filtering, despite more modern, flexible, easier, convenient and powerful alternatives existing." -

    As promised in my last post, & since you said that? Well...

    I suppose it's time to "dispel your notions"!

    (OR rather, your attempts @ mocking me, since I can do that to YOU, easily metrix007 & you KNOW it, I know it, and everyone else can too now... I suppose I can let others know a few samples of it too now, fair enough?)

    Here's only 1!

    I.E.-> Where you RAN from disproving my points in favor of hosts files for end users gain in security, speed/bandwidth, efficiency, reliability, & even anonymity to some extent (vs. DNSBL's) & more:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018

    (Should I post the rest? Just ask, I can & will upon request... I have, oh, another 8 or so on the EXACT same lines, you running from disproving my points on hosts files!)

    Anyhow/anyways:

    "My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873

    AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class where I got other programmer's work WORKING RIGHT (in PyThon no less, which I just started learning only 2 week ago no less) by showing

    1. Re:Addendum (for metrix007/funnyman's reference) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski will now prove the above statements to be absolutely and irrefutably correct.

  17. I don't use Windows... by Zebaulon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...and haven't since 98. How is this relevant to me?

    1. Re:I don't use Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:I don't use Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I cybered with your mom over skype last night. I was roleplaying as Ballmer.

  18. Not a problem by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

    Not a problem on my LAN. Those hosts are blocked in the main DNS server. And don't even bother trying to bypass DHCP DNS assignment. My firewall rules don't forward destination port 53 packets to the WAN interface. You either use my DNS server or you get ICMP administratively-prohibited errors. Problem solved. Next!

    1. Re:Not a problem by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I use a squid proxy with a blacklist of ad-servers. It worked great, until about two weeks ago when I noticed the sudden return of ads. On further investigation, it turned out that some of the ad-networks had switched to HTTPS, which doesn't get proxied. So I had to configure bind with a bodgey DNS block too.

      The really annoying thing is that sooner or later one of those ad networks will forget to renew their cert and everyone visiting a webpage with one of their ads will get a 'untrusted certificate' message.

    2. Re:Not a problem by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Not bulletproof. I could just use ssh port forwarding to connect to my DNS server through a shell account?

  19. Not only windows 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just tried it on XP and 7 with MSE. MSE removes ad.doubleclick.net from the read only HOSTS file. So it's not just windows 8.

    1. Re:Not only windows 8 by sideslash · · Score: 1

      Indeed. It is interesting that some people on one hand complain about how malware-prone Windows is for non power users, and simultaneously complain whenever Microsoft takes a step to obstruct an attack vector. If you're a power user, you will be able to work around your antivirus's blocking of obvious hacks in your HOSTS file (and yes, it is a hack, even if you're doing it to block facebook for yourself).

    2. Re:Not only windows 8 by Alioth · · Score: 1

      It's not interesting at all. There is more than one person, so the fact that one person may complain that Windows is malware prone for non power users might - just might - not be the same person who is complaining when Microsoft obstructs an attack vector. It is not at all surprising that in a large group of people, there may be differing and even conflicting opinions on a subject.

    3. Re:Not only windows 8 by alexo · · Score: 1

      Does it happen if you add a DENY permission to the account MSE runs under to the file's security list?

  20. Agreed 110% fellow AC (see 'em disprove these) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Per my subject-line above: Some data for your reference I challenge my "naysayers" like metrix007 & others to disprove (not a single one has managed to on a SINGLE POINT in it over time here mind you - metrix, as you've seen in my other post they "pre-downmodded" since they're trolls, is shown in a SINGLE INSTANCE only of running from this & disproving all of its points in favor of custom hosts files in fact - I have 8 others he's done that, run like a whipped dog from in fact, lol...):

    Ah, metrix007 aside (he's just a fool troll)? Here we go:

    21++ ADVANTAGES OF HOSTS FILES (over browser plugins for security, &/or DNS servers):

    (Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs)).

    1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).

    2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:

    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )

    AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.

    Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..

    3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THAT BEAR MALICIOUS SCRIPT, or, THAT POINT TO MALICIOUS SCRIPT VIA URLS etc.

    4.) Adblock won't get you to your favorite sites if a DNS server goes down or is DNS-poisoned, hosts will (this leads to points 5-7 next below, & especially vs. the July 12th 2012 "DNSChanger" trojan purge that's coming soon (those folks won't get to sites if infested - I will, due to hardcodes in my hosts file of my fav. 20 sites + using BETTER filtering DNS servers (see list below))...

    5.) Adblock doesn't allow you to hardcode in your favorite websites into it so you don't make DNS server calls and so you can avoid tracking by DNS request logs, OR make you reach them faster since you resolve host-domain names LOCALLY w/ hosts out of cached memory, hosts do ALL of those things (DNS servers are also being abused by the Chinese lately and by the Kaminsky flaw -> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/082908-kaminsky-flaw-prompts-dns-server.html for years now). Hosts protect against those problems via hardcodes of your fav sites (you should verify against the TLD that does nothing but cache IPAddress-to-domainname/hostname resolutions (in-addr.arpa) via NSLOOKUP, PINGS (ping -a in Windows - functions for "reverse DNS lookups"), &/or WHOIS though, regularly, so you have the correct IP & it's current)).

    * NOW - Some folks MAY think that putting an IP address alone into your browser's address bar will be enough, so why bother

    1. Re:Agreed 110% fellow AC (see 'em disprove these) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Yes, yes, but now that none of that will work anymore in your beloved Windows OS, what are you going to start on next? I can't wait to see what new thing you start ranting about (the wonders of the new windows-8-style-UI or whatever they're calling it this week?)

      I'm just a little concerned that it'll probably take you months to amass 7 or 8 pages of text with all sorts of random markup starting from scratch.

    2. Re:Agreed 110% fellow AC (see 'em disprove these) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      great! now guess what? All your effort is now for nothing because windows 8 will edit your host file and allow shit you were trying to block.

    3. Re:Agreed 110% fellow AC (see 'em disprove these) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man you really are a sad cunt

  21. Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is silly. You are advised to disable any AV present on a Windows system when modding a host file for this sort of filtering and re-enable it afterward to prevent EXACTLY this sort of behavior.

    I thought /. was supposed to have more technically adept editors/readers.

    1. Re:Non-issue by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Readers with actual reading comprehension would be a good thing, too.
      From what I've read, it doesn't complain when you actually edit the hosts file, but rather when you visit some specific websites that are listed in the hosts file.

      By the sounds of this, turning of any A/V software during the edit wouldn't help at all, because it isn't that it blocks the save of the edited file, it's that it deletes the individual line for the blocked site you're currently wanting to visit.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
  22. Re:The internet (or networks) are more than the we by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, setting up a DNS server in a windows environment takes about 2 minutes. And has a GUI so if you've never heard of DNS before you can often muddle your way through it.

    windows server has a DNS server.

  23. Hamhandedness. by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are an enterprise IT manager this is your dream come true.

    Hardly. At the enterprise level there are multiple different ways of handling situations such as this. Which one(s) you choose depends upon how you've organized Active Directory and your network.

    But a different point is that this is an OLD way of phishing. The phisher is publishing the IP addresses that need to be blocked. So, again, at the enterprise level this kind of phishing would not be an issue.

    If a phisher really needed to redirect traffic like that he'd have an easier time just getting the information in the local machine's DNS cache. That way it would never show up in the hosts file which means that it would be that much harder to spot. Then just keep updating the DNS cache.

    So this is the wrong solution to the wrong problem and it is implemented in the wrong way. And it will probably cause more issues in the future as 3rd party developers have to work around not having the hosts file as a reliable option any more.

    Nice way to remove a useful tool that's been around for decades.

  24. Thank-You, & here's a challenge I always make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    To my "naysayers" -

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * That's MOSTLY directed to "funny man" metrix007, who's RUN from doing it before.. 8 times now, lol!

    As well as my other detractors, who are naught but trolls, since they CAN'T disprove my points (or the ones the article source here makes, a mere subset of my own full model).

    Go for it boys... I'll be waiting for the egg to fall on your faces, as per my usual.

    (Should be 'simple' for the /. wannabe computer gurus. right? Well, let's see - I have been WAITING for someone to find a "chink" in that posts' armor... it only strengthens it IF you do, but? No one here ever did or does, lol!)

    Nothing against you either...

    APK

    P.S.=> Call me crackpot & such all you like, but until my naysayers here can disprove my points on hosts files advantages over other things (DNS or AdBlock etc./et al, though hosts compliment them & supplement them vs. THEIR issues/weaknesses)?

    Well... all the "downmods" in the WORLD, as well as off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks FAIL vs my points on hosts... fact! That's life folks, beat me or lose to me when you attack me (and, metrix007 KNOWS the result of all folks on /. on THAT account, lol - see my 1st post)... apk

  25. chattr +i /etc/hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't need to Win when you got Lin

    1. Re:chattr +i /etc/hosts by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      See, this is why idiots will always be prone to infection, regardless of what operating system they use: because they don't understand security for shit.

      Think about it: if a process has permission to write to the hosts file, it can also remove the immutable bit in the filesystem attributes.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
    2. Re:chattr +i /etc/hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If root is compromised, who gives a fuck if it writes to hosts anyway? sich denken

    3. Re:chattr +i /etc/hosts by crutchy · · Score: 1

      if a process has permission to write to the hosts file

      that question is the problem with windows security in general...

      the answer is that unless it is required for windows to run, or unless the user logs in as administrator with a password that is at least 6 characters long and consciously executes such process, it shouldn't have such permission.... ever....... full stop

  26. faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hey faggot, running Linux here, and no fucking gnomes or *buntus either.

    1. Re:faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I think you misplaced the comma. what you meant was:

      Hey, faggot running Linux here.

  27. Re:The internet (or networks) are more than the we by vux984 · · Score: 1

    The main problem I see is

    That you didn't read the article and have no idea what you are talking about?

    ... host file distribution is popular.

    And it will still work, so what is the main problem you see again?

  28. Wrong troll (YOU are in error, see inside)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    What? It works FINE on Windows up to Server 2008 & yes, in Win8 too (Oh, by the way - there's already work arounds, see the Windows Defender/Security Essentials part)... see subject-line above, & this from today's source article:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    ---

    "Update: Tom just pointed out that turning off Windows Defender, which basically is Microsoft Security Essentials, in Windows 8 will resolve the issue. It appears that the program has been designed to protect some hosts from being added to the Windows hosts file. To turn off Windows Defender press the Windows key, type Windows Defender and hit enter. This launches the program. Switch to Settings here and select Administrator on the left. Locate Turn on Windows Defender and uncheck the preference and click save changes afterwards. Please note that this turns off Windows Defender, and that it is recommended to have another antivirus software installed on the system to have it protected against Internet and local threats." FROM -> http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/you-cant-block-facebook-using-windows-8s-hosts-file/

    ---

    See?

    Plus, face it:

    There is always alternate antivirus/antispyware, but in My case? Windows 7 will remain MY alternate solution... until MS "wakes up" from the delusions they have with Win8... yes, I feel that way. Maybe I am wrong, time will tell!

    ---

    Personally & bluntly speaking, Windows/MS fan or not?

    Windows 8 is going to be another ME... mark my words, sad to say it.

    I'll stick with Win7!

    On workarounds - I even posted what MAY be a work-around at the source article site, waiting for it to update & pass muster there...

    E.G.-> Deals in tcp/ip parms redirection of databasepath, but, it's just theory on my end - not sure IF it'll do it, or not to be honest, leaning to "not" in fact)

    However... I do NOT *like* Windows 8 METRO, beneath it's skin I do, good stuff, but not what Mr. Ballmer & crew are attempting TOO EARLY!

    (Storming the phone & tablet market, and the PC desktop/server OS market TOO EARLY for touchscreen, with TOO MUCH CHANGE, dumb... it alienates long term Windows users).

    * Ah, anyhow... there you are: YOU, are in blatant error troll.

    APK

    P.S.=> Piece of friendly advice - IF you're going to troll me? Be accurate & correct... thank-you (you make trolls here look VERY bad, lol - not that THAT's "news"...)...

    ... apk

  29. Mutually incompatible options by LocalH · · Score: 4, Informative

    The option on one end is to allow the user to have full, unfettered access to everything on their system, from the highest levels down to the lowest. This was done back in the DOS and Win9x days, and although it does have a few benefits in certain niches, it's also very bad for security.

    The option on the other end is to disallow access to modifying the underlying system and related settings, and only allow such actions from full administrator accounts, and maybe not even then (depending on the mindset of the development team). This pisses off a lot of the hardcore techies who like to modify everything they can, but to be fair it does help protect the average user.

    Now, I'm not defending Microsoft on how they've implemented this silently and without notification to the user, but on the face of it I think it's a good idea for the average user, at least with regards to the Facebook part of it (not so much on the Doubleclick part). Think about it - the average non-techie person wants Facebook to work. They will want to get their notifications on the Start screen (and elsewhere).

    I agree with other posters - they should have openly done this and notified the user before "fixing" it - something like "Your hosts file has been modified to prevent access to <site on this list>. Is this desirable to you?" with three options - "Yes", "No", "More information". That way, the techies can click "Yes" and go about their business, average users can click "More information" and maybe actually learn a little bit in the process, then come back and click "Yes" or "No" as per their wishes.

    As with many things, the idea is sound, but the implementation is not. To those saying "well, malware wouldn't redirect to localhost, it'd redirect to a false Facebook", there's nothing stopping a piece of malware from being written that is similar to the existing rogue security software, but that also uses hosts to block access to various social media sites, in an attempt to give the uneducated user further reason to believe they're truly infected as bad as the rogue software tells them they are, and also as a weak attempt to prevent the user from going online and telling people about it even after the rogue software has been removed. They'll do anything to get a few more successful purchases of their crap software. I'm quite surprised they haven't really done this already, to be honest.

    --
    FC Closer
    1. Re:Mutually incompatible options by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      There is malware that uses the hosts file to block access to update sites for all the major antivirus programs, which isn't really much different to what you're proposing.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
    2. Re:Mutually incompatible options by humanrev · · Score: 1

      I agree with other posters - they should have openly done this and notified the user before "fixing" it - something like "Your hosts file has been modified to prevent access to . Is this desirable to you?" with three options - "Yes", "No", "More information". That way, the techies can click "Yes" and go about their business, average users can click "More information" and maybe actually learn a little bit in the process, then come back and click "Yes" or "No" as per their wishes.

      You really think users will bother to click on "More information" and actually read that stuff? "Yes" "Yes" "Yes" is going to be the only thing they see and click, and possibly for some more paranoid people "No". But never "More information" unless you actually like computers.

      UAC is enough evidence to show that people will click the confirmation option in any window no matter what it says, just to get the damn thing to disappear. I don't agree with it but I understand why people do it.

      --
      Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
    3. Re:Mutually incompatible options by omnichad · · Score: 1

      OK, then make it like IE9's new download window for apps that haven't been digitally signed. Your choices are more like "No," "More Information" and a tiny link that says Other Options, that lets you choose Yes.

  30. Re:The internet (or networks) are more than the we by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    For the average joe the web is all that matters. Its web + buying stuff they can either have sent to their house ( ebay, amazon ) or watch ( netflix, etc ) + social networking...

    --
    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  31. Man - wrong AGAIN trolls (learn to read)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583

    * Take a GOOD read there, "drink it in, & digest it", lol... you NEED to!

    APK

    P.S.=> Man - You boys SERIOUSLY need to learn to READ...

    So, get your "hooked on phonics" remedial reading lessons out trolls (picture me saying that in the tone of Joe Pesci hearing it, as tommy, in GoodFellas "now go get your shinebox!", lol), because face it, vs. me?

    You guys do YOURSELVES in, nearly every time!

    (... & thus, well - you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual-style):

    This? This was just "too, Too TOO EASY - just '2EZ'"... & it's no small wonder that you post as AC now since you all have started that since you KNOW I will track your screwups & throw them back at you when you further subsequently mess up vs. me as time passes, just as you have here, for LULZ... lol!

    (metrix007, is that you? If I were a "betting man" I'd say so - it's the KIND of errrors vs. myself you always made!)

    ... apk

  32. Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use a hardware firewall with content blocking or other features. I have all Facebook blocked in every manner. Sweet!

  33. If all you're trying to do is block by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    If all you're trying to do is block ad sites, and you're willing to do it on a system wide scale, use a firewall. Set a bunch of outbound rules to block certain address. It works, the settings will survive OS upgrades, and Windows 8 won't undo the settings on your behalf.

  34. Not user friendly, hostile by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the article, Two of the sites that you can’t block using the hosts file are facebook.com and ad.doubleclick.net

    I started using the hosts file over a decade ago, when I traced crashes that I was having to doubleclick.net. Ad supported software that I was using was receiving files from them, but it was doing a lot more than just displaying the ads (which I would not have objected to). Many users were experiencing this, but the author would not fix it so I and others started blocking the site (which resolved the problem, although the author lost some small amount of revenue).

    More recently I have also started blocking facebook. I never use it, have no account there, but I've noticed an awful lot of network traffic going to and from my site with facebook.com. I'm not even a member, so I don't feel the need for them to track most of the sites that I visit. The hosts file has so far worked very well for this.

    And argument that this feature is in any way for the benefit of the clueless user is bogus. The common way to block a site via the hosts file is to equate it to the IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the local machine. If Microsoft were doing this for the benefit of their users then they would simply look at the hosts file and, if they found redirects for sites that they were concerned about that were not pointed to the local machine, they might well conclude that it was potentially an attempt to hijack a domain name and then, after warning the user (and even asking him) correct the problem. This would even show the user that Microsoft was doing something good for the user for a change. But if the address is redirected to the local machine, the only reasonable conclusion that I can see is that the user wanted it that way (as it provides no attack vector). It took me about 30 seconds to realize that changing 127.0.0.1 redirects was user unfriendly and could easily be avoided if Microsoft were really concerned about their users who paid for the software. They just have to look at the IP address that the hosts file contains and if it is 127.0.0.1 then allow it to stay! Clearly Microsoft realized this too. The only reasonable conclusion is that they are doing this because they have a motive that is against customers interests.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
    1. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I'm a malware author who is able to write to your hosts file, then I'm certainly able to also run a web server on your local machine. Now all your 127.0.0.1 redirects are going exactly where I want them to.

    2. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      Bovine waste! If MS were even thinking that, they could easily detect such a server and warn the user about it. Besides, they are apparently detecting some URLs in the hosts file and "fixing" them, without even warning the user that the "fix" was needed. Since they are not detecting all URLs and any attacker who wrote to the hosts file is likely to have added more than one or two bad entries, some undetected hosts entries would still get through. It would be better to not even use the hosts file, it would be a lot safer than going to all the effort to mess with what the user put in there. Clearly this isn't for the users sake.

      --
      I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
    3. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why a real redirect to nowhere should always point to 0.0.0.0.

      (Some of us run web servers on localhost, you insensitive clod.)

    4. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2

      Assuming that all redirects to localhost are user-specified is all well and good, until you figure out that some malware makes the hosts file looks like this:

      update.symantec.com 127.0.0.1
      update.trendmicro.com 127.0.0.1
      update.mcafee.com 127.0.0.1
      update.microsoft.com 127.0.0.1

      Not that I consider this a good move by Microsoft, by any means, but implying that the situation is as simple as you're making it out to be is dangerous.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
    5. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abusing the hosts file for filtering purposes is only for clueless idiots, anyway.

      You can't "block" a whole domain with it. You have to "block" EVERY SINGLE HOST separately.
      You direct traffic to an address that can - in the future - host a totally unrelated web server, making this a maintainance nightmare. 0.0.0.0 is also semantically incorrect to use as a destination.
      You "block" hosts on a single computer. If you have multiple computers, good luck managing that crapfest.

      The proper way if you want to block HTTP traffic is to use an HTTP proxy. If you want to block all traffic, you can blackhole the complete domain with a single line in your DNS server.

      Messing with the hosts file is plain stupid.

    6. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > would simply look at the hosts file and, if they found redirects for sites that they were concerned about that were not pointed to the local machine

      Malware can run a local http server and redirect to localhost, making the local server a proxy for an ad server. That's trivial to do. Now your 127.0.0.1 entries that aren't being watched are all pointing to an ad server.

      It's a more effective vector than just setting a proxy in the internet settings, since many users don't even know about the hosts file.

    7. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you want to block all traffic, you can blackhole the complete domain with a single line in your DNS server.

      Which would require running a DNS server on a machine that is turned on whenever web clients on the same network are turned on.

    8. Re:Not user friendly, hostile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only a retard would be blocking this using the host files.

  35. SuperFaggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Yeah, fuck those Gnomes. They keep biting my fingers while I type.

  36. redmond should... by crutchy · · Score: 1

    ...just rip off iptables and be done with it already... wtf is this "protecting the hosts file" bullshit (pointless if root/admin priveliges are required to modify it in the first place)? ...and haven't they yet realised that "windows defender" is an oxymoron?

    1. Re:redmond should... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      A linux machine with iptables has a hosts file too. If anyone were targeting desktop linux with a virus, they can still modify the hosts file (assuming they find a privilege escalation bug to get them that far).

    2. Re:redmond should... by crutchy · · Score: 1

      assuming they find a privilege escalation bug to get them that far

      that's sort of what i was getting at... they patch and bolt things on that they hope will improve security, but privelige escalation is the root cause of the problem... linux doesn't need protection for the hosts file because most programs just can't write to it (file permissions are the security measure, and they work), but i'm pretty sure most linux servers are protected from interweb nasties using iptables rather than hosts... the only thing i use hosts for is to access the web server on my lan because my router doesn't have loopback

      i guess microsoft would probably still botch iptables up as well... if malware can overwrite hosts it can overwrite an iptables script too, as well as pretty much anything else on the system... yeah they should really improve filesystem permissions to actually protect system files rather than just as a gimmick (ACLs)

    3. Re:redmond should... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      My point is that privilege escalation bugs are found in Linux or Linux modules all the time (esp. the commercial Nvidia drivers).

      Windows' hosts file is just as protected as the Linux hosts file. Even if Windows had iptables, it would still have hosts, and hosts is an attack vector on Linux and Windows both.

    4. Re:redmond should... by crutchy · · Score: 1

      privilege escalation bugs are found in Linux or Linux modules all the time

      care to share a few (not even sarcastic here)... i came across the nvidia one through a google search, but i'm interested what other ones there are (please keep them reasonably current, maybe in the last 4 years)

      is there a wikipedia page?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation#Examples_of_vertical_privilege_escalation mentions a vulnerability using cron... not sure how old that exploit would be

    5. Re:redmond should... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I don't have them. I don't even use desktop linux regularly. But I'm sure it's at least as rare as similar bugs in Windows 7, if not more rare. Most cases of root-required viruses on Windows are let in by the user explicitly. The difference is more in the user than the OS, and the target audience size.

    6. Re:redmond should... by crutchy · · Score: 1

      yeah i never liked the stupid...

      "the program you're trying to install wants to pwn your machine... just click yes without even reading this and don't worry about security if it allows the program to install"

      ...popups from vista onwards

  37. Even Microsoft couldn't put up with his posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Microsoft did this to purposely piss of APK, because even they could stand seeing his posts despite his praise for their products. They knew that using the host file was still a good idea and made sure there was a work around. They just wanted to make sure there were more hoops to jump through to make APK dance a little more.

  38. The answer is simple enough by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The answer is simple enough:
    If you're already smart enough to edit the hosts file, you should be smart enough to add hosts to Windows Defender exclusion list.

    Is this a change from the way that things were done in the past? Of course it is. This is how systems become more secure for the average user. Average Joe isn't messing with hosts.

    Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.

    1. Re:The answer is simple enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is how systems become more secure for the average user. Average Joe isn't messing with hosts.

      Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.

      No this is how systems are turned against their masters for the good of a 3rd party. This is how control is wrenched from the hands of advanced users. People forget why the PC took off in the first place. It was because suddenly it allowed people to do all sorts of things they wanted to do, not because it hobbled them in the name of security. If the user fails to understand the nature of security for host files, their failure continues even when this solution is put in place. Malicious software writters find workarounds and other ways. Meanwhile users and administrators have their efforts hampered and their hands tied to make things work - the people imposing the "improved security" are behaving just as maliciously.

    2. Re:The answer is simple enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Average Joe isn't messing with hosts."

      That's true, however when people advance to the hosts file, they are not usually tech savvy enough to think that it would stop working the way they have learned it either. As a result, a lot of people still think it's working just fine, while they are being re-directed to sites that LOOK like the one they put in the host file, but isn't.

    3. Re:The answer is simple enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the smart people at Microsoft weren't smart enough to put a comment in the hosts file telling the user which software changed it, what it changed, why it was changed it and what the user can do to stop that from happening in the future. Don't expect the users to be smarter.

  39. Re:Thank-You, & here's a challenge I always ma by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

    Advantages over "other things"? Two words:

    Firewall entries.

    More flexible, centrally maintained, more granular, more reliable, and not prone to user tampering. Yea, how horrible.

  40. Nope by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

    Still not a reason to switch to Ubuntu. Especially with the new tablet optimized desktop.

    --
    If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
    1. Re:Nope by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      Looks like you never heard of Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu, let alone Gnobuntu (although I don't know if that works yet.)

    2. Re:Nope by Threni · · Score: 1

      Linux Mint LXDE/XFCE. Ubuntu, but without the nonsense.

    3. Re:Nope by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      I specifically stated Ubuntu, and not the others.

      I spent more than a year on Kubuntu and was never happy with it. And I still use Ubuntu everyday as well. At least I can install the KDE apps I want.

      For other systems I switched to OpenSUSE more than a year ago and life is very good. Personally I have no use for the *buntu family.

      --
      If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
  41. Caveat Emptor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm calmly throwing out any illusion I might have harbored regarding the 'ownership' of a Windows PC, and I now know that the licensing agreement TOS gives Microsoft that right to manage 'my' PC in any manner they see fit, at any time they decide it's in my (their) best interest.

    File Access has been a shattered illusion since I came to understand that any user account to which assigned administrative privileges was still kept from accessing certain files for lack of sufficient 'privilege' regardless of what I attempted to do to circumvent Microsoft's control or that of their partners.

    I have to admit I'm chagrined at the Orwellian title given to the program responsible for carrying out the will of the Master. It's hiding the obvious in plain sight to call it Windows Defender when what it defends is Microsoft's interests and not that of those who pay for the OS.

    Back in the day, when you purchased a piece of hardware it was yours, now you're just rolling the dice to see how long someone else's PC will last while it's in your possession and you use it according to the desires of the true owner.

    Caveat Emporer

    1. Re:Caveat Emptor by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      File Access has been a shattered illusion since I came to understand that any user account to which assigned administrative privileges was still kept from accessing certain files for lack of sufficient 'privilege' regardless of what I attempted to do to circumvent Microsoft's control or that of their partners.

      This is pure bullshit. Even files for which you have no access (on a bog-standard Windows install this is the SAM and the System Volume Information folder, the first of which is the Security Accounts database and is only unreadable because Windows holds it open for exclusive read - for good reason, and the second is the container for system information for which you'd have no interest, such as restore point data), you can take ownership of the files and then just go right ahead and do whatever you want. If an application removes your ability to access a file, then that's a problem with the application not Windows.

      --
      For a site about things like basic rights, Slashdot users sure do like to censor "dissent".
  42. Re:Thank-You, & here's a challenge I always ma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can use djb dnscache on all operating systems, even ones that don't support the hosts file, even with windows 8. dnscache reads from a database and uses O(1) lookup. Hosts file is O(N) lookup. My friend had a hosts file with 5 billion entries. It took over 5 minutes to lookup some hosts and he had to buy extra ram just to edit his hosts file. With dnscache, all lookups are 5 ms. It can be run locally but it can also be put on a separate machine. My friend moved his dnscache to his router to block his daughter from looking at black penises or his son from looking at gay black penises.

  43. Ok - good: I love it (good man, but: See inside) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Disadvantages:

    1.) Harder to work with firewall rules table than textfile (for the inexperienced)

    2.) Eats CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O

    3.) Is another "layer of complexity" over the IP stack (hosts aren't, they're a filter that makes for LESS work via blackhole 0, 0.0.0.0, or 127.0.0.1 slowest/largest/worst of lot loopback adapter address)...

    Want more? You're outnumbered already...

    Ok - this is the WORST of a bad lot on Windows firewall:

    Hell, look up rootkit.com, & see their article on "Windows Firewall" Vista onwards being EASIER to "unhook"... it'll blow your mind!

    I warned MS on it, to no avail, here -> (See 3rd or 4th post down in fact) http://www.google.com/search?q=%22rootkit.com%22+and+%22Windows+Firewall%22&btnG=Search&sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&gbv=1

    Hey - That's what UAC, ACL's, & Read-Only attributes, IN COMBINATION, are for... lesser privelege users NOT running as Admin IS "where it's at" for security for those reasons, on hosts files.

    Centrally maintained's easy too - logon scripts &/or autoexec parse via gpedit.msc can make copying updated current hosts files a SNAP in Windows AD environs (or other networked environs).

    Want more? Ask... all I have to do is *think* for a minute or so... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do I advocate firewall usage? Sure... & other things for "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" - best thing we've got going, see my post here on THAT note in fact -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 because I've been doing PC security since before there WAS a field in it... my post above has proof that also! apk

  44. Get your facts straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The hosts file has nothing to do, as a primary purpose, with filtering content. Go before DNS and find out what it was meant for and stop distributing garbage as information.

  45. Good man - living up to my challenge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You can also eat more CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O doing DNS servers (especially If setup as another machine, or even as a program on the same rig).

    DNS, though it works? Has some BIG faults to it: See here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 There's a list, only partial, of 32 of them.

    Do I use DNS? Yes, see that SAME post (I use external ones, not ISP ones, or one running locally here... ones that are specifically FILTERED via DNSBL I suspect or a mechanism LIKE it).

    There a LOT more on THAT note, DNS, here from me -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 that MAY "enlighten you"...

    Disclaimer:

    See - I am NOT against DNS... I merely use DNS, Hosts, Firewalls, browser plugins & MUCH MORE in unison for the concept of "layered security"/"defense-in-depth"... best thing we HAVE GOING today in fact, in today's malware-ridden mess online!

    APK

    P.S.=> DJB's supposed to be pretty good, was allegedly "bulletproof & bug-free" & Dan J. Bernstein made a TINY arrogant mistake though - he put up a U.S. Dollars $10,000 award for ANYONE that could find a hole... guess who did? apk

    1. Re:Good man - living up to my challenge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reward was $1000, not $10,000

    2. Re:Good man - living up to my challenge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      P.S.=> DJB's supposed to be pretty good, was allegedly "bulletproof & bug-free" & Dan J. Bernstein made a TINY arrogant mistake though - he put up a U.S. Dollars $10,000 award for ANYONE that could find a hole... guess who did? apk

      APK stands for Matthew Dempsky?

    3. Re:Good man - living up to my challenge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A hashtable lookup is O(1). a hosts file lookup is O(N). Do you understand what that means?

  46. Re:The internet (or networks) are more than the we by xlsior · · Score: 1

    As is forcing people to use/memorize ip addresses

    Which is not even an option for shared hosting setups - you can literally have thousands of websites sharing a single IP after all.

  47. LOL, mod him up as funny please... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Microsoft did this to purposely piss of APK, because even they could stand seeing his posts despite his praise for their products." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @06:11PM (#41048867)

    Hahaha, good one - my points on hosts files still "stand strong" here though, regardless of your conspiracy theory & challengers actually TAKING MY CHALLENGE FOR ONCE -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    (Which I like, a LOT - you do NOT get stronger from praise... criticism, + valid nitpicking, & even ADVERSITY, make you stronger! Which IS what I am looking for on my post on hosts!)

    ---

    "They knew that using the host file was still a good idea and made sure there was a work around." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @06:11PM (#41048867)

    Well, if not? I'd figure one out, or code it... that's just "what I do"/"how I roll"... see my other posts on THAT note.

    ---

    "They just wanted to make sure there were more hoops to jump through to make APK dance a little more." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @06:11PM (#41048867)

    LOL, that's ok - I've made one of their "Princes" dance a bit too, former co-worker of mine, over @ Windows IT Pro, on a NUMBER of things -> http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/internals-and-architecture/the-memory-optimization-hoax

    Correcting errors in HIS work too, the PhD no less... in hardcode ROOKIE errors, and showing, eventually that over aggressive caching would FAIL in Vista (and, it did), that memory optimizers reduce what stalls Exchange Servers, Terminal Servers, Databases & more...

    So, IF you're right? Well... I suppose, they OWE me one, lol!

    (I respect Mr. Russinovich immensely though, differences over time, or not).

    I loved it when he wouldn't SHOW to debate me & I used this against he to try "goad" him out for a DIRECT confrontation, much like Achilles vs. Hector (I said that, lol, "hector, Hector... HECTOR").

    He knows who I am, or ought to... lol, & far before that too (not on good terms either, as competitors working for the SAME company but I outsold him).

    (A Killeus, son of Peleus from the classic film "TROY" & since the middle initial is usually the father's name? APK works, lol!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCcvdrhn3M

    "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??

    That, was classic... one of my "better triumphs" online in fact, over time, over a "great one"...

    Another's getting one of their mgt. to AGREE WITH MY POINTS ON HOSTS FILES HERE ON /. (that smaller blocking addresses & caching of the hosts file, which it will do like any other file in the local kernelmode diskcaching subsystems):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1467692&cid=30384918

    So, perhaps? Yes, they MAY "owe me one" but that day? Is NOT today... not on hosts!

    Personally, I feel MS is devolving into a marketing company & needs a guy like Dr. Mark Russinovich leading it (said it in my other posts here in fact) rather than men like Mr. Ballmer... Dr. Mark's the CLOSEST & superior to, Mr. Bill Gates, "King Billy" the original prototype success man @ MS (I call him that out of respect, not ridicule, in fact).

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, anyhow - it's been FUN listening to your entertaining theory/conspiracy, but, I doubt it... apk

    1. Re:LOL, mod him up as funny please... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      (Which I like, a LOT - you do NOT get stronger from praise... criticism, + valid nitpicking, & even ADVERSITY, make you stronger! Which IS what I am looking for on my post on hosts!)

      Which is why you spend so much time replying to obvious jokes or trolls... because you want to make them stronger? Not that it is needed, seems easy enough for random people to DDOS you via simple, effortless posts.

  48. I hope you're not in IT security. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here are a few words I want you to consider:

    Defence
    In
    Depth.

    What do you think that means?

    It means that you have multiple layers of defence. Your PC should not be infected by another PC on your network or off, nor should it contribute to infection. Your router to that PC should not be infected by another PC on your network or off, nor should it contribute to infection. Similarly for your firewall and DMZ.

    If you're not using HOSTS file why is the OS looking at the HOSTS file for ANYTHING???

    Really. If you can't trust that file to be correct, then the OS shouldn't decide for you that it is correct.

  49. AKilleus son of Peleus says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    * Keep the challengers coming... I only get STRONGER for your critiques & facing my challenge to disprove my points on hosts files!

    APK

    P.S.=> "Who are you soldier?" Achilles, Son of Peleus... lol!

    (A Killeus - true greek spelling, son of Peleus, since the middle name's usually that of the father or grandfather? APK, works... lol!)

    P.S.=> I mean that too, it's part of how the list got that strong, along with a LOT of years of thought put into it... & the Achilles thing is just to "inspire you"...

    QUESTION - Which one of you "/. brainiacs" will find the "achilles heel" (that doesn't exist, lol), out of my list on hosts files benefits?

    None for years here have been... not a one (ask metrix007, he's run from it 8 times, or see here for one example thereof -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263 )

    ... apk

  50. They aren't getting rid of the hosts file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If they were, then there would be no use of the hosts file by the OS to look up things.

    Now if you set it, but the machine gets infected, the OS can be made, despite your lockdown, a change to that hosts file and screw up the scenario you thought you were protecting.

    If this were about getting rid of the hosts file, why is the OS still looking at it and even changing it?

  51. Ah, never SAID it was me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Ahem: Wasn't I - I never said it was... I wanted to see if YOU guys knew the man's name (google's amazing for you, isn't it?)

    APK

    P.S.=> Besides, I have other "triumphs" over time in this field with "notables", and more than once (small fraction of what I COULD put out's here) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049215 ...

    They are TRULY notables ones, ones I admire & respect! Especially Dr. Mark...

    And?

    Hey - The challenge STILL stands (&, what I use, MAY serve to "inspire you", wannabes (lol)) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    Don't take offense!

    The wannabes is just "ribbing" to get your goat, & get YOU, into it - keep your cool, beat me, win - disprove my points on hosts files!

    Take me on, WIN, if you can!

    Hey - in the end?

    I'll only get stronger for it, IF you do or can!

    (However - for YEARS now here on /. & other places? Well... hate to say it? Heh - nobody here to DATE has, ask metrix, who started this & I am GLAD he did, who's failed 8x on my points on hosts files -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263 )

    ... apk

    1. Re:Ah, never SAID it was me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Maybe you should be a little more careful with formatting, so as to not put your name right after a question so as to look like the answer.

  52. Block at Firewall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like firewall blocking just became more popular ;-]

  53. DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    'Not that it is needed, seems easy enough for random people to DDOS you via simple, effortless posts." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @07:18PM (#41049275)

    Funniest part is, on DDoS'ing me in postings?

    Ask around...

    Heck, lol, the 'registered "lusers"' here can't post anymore than I can as "AC" (which is WHY I do ac, I could give a "hoot" about karma here really, as I've done a few cool things in my time around the art & science of computing... and when someone does well, like I said of your post? Mod them up is what I say)

    In the end, on your "DoS/DDoS", well...I usually, IF/WHEN I wish, can outpost them... easily.

    (No TOR slow b.s. either... I have, well - put it THIS way, "methods" that are FAR faster, & better, that I directly control... put it this way - know what BGP is?? That's a clue, but that's not EXACTLY what I do!)

    * However, I only use it if/when necessary though... like when "trolls" attack, lol, which happens here, a lot! It's not even breaking ANY rules, seriously... anyone with the right saavy & tools, can do it. Enough clues...

    (I'm full of "tricks", some of you MAY know how I do it, in principle at least, but not exact details... there are MANY ways, not using proxies... put it THAT way, on this one, & NO, I am not telling anyone it... it's too useful, especially here, vs.trolls!)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "Which is why you spend so much time replying to obvious jokes or trolls... because you want to make them stronger?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @07:18PM (#41049275)

    Yes, exactly - there ARE some "sharp cookies" here (sorry, many are NOT up to my standards of WHAT that is), like Animats, John Carmack, & others that post here (sorry if I don't note others directly)

    Hey - debating the more clever guys here, & elsewhere online? It's like lifting weights, or getting into streetfights (which the latter I do NOT recommend)... It only makes one, stronger (never debated those 2 though, they're good/GREAT, respectively)...

    They're just examples of 2 folks here I really respect... that's all!

    ... apk

    1. Re:DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what the other AC was trying to get at, is you write so much in response to people obviously just trying to waste your time, you are essentially giving them what they want. Such trolls don't care about being right or wrong, and will post something that is wrong if it furthers their goal of getting other people to make a big deal. In other words, they are just trying to make you to spend effort or time in response to what they say. Doesn't matter how much of what you say is true fact or not, just speaking so much in response makes them win.

      It is not like there is much to gain. They can post such nonsense and yet you respond, so it is not like you would be providing any useful rebuttal when it is obviously nonsense in the first place. And there is plenty to lose... as others will just see it as messed up priorities, or a wall of text, or many other reasons to just discount you and ignore your posts. Doesn't matter how much you are right if you make people ignore you without reading what you say. Plus it helps people claim you are a troll, if they see responses to stupid stuff, which looks more like straw man tactics while other more serious threads stop quickly.

    2. Re:DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't bother wasting your time trying to help him... listen to your own advice and don't bother with trolls. He'll ignore any advice about how to better communicate his points, or insist that people have issue with his facts. He either is completely ignorant of how in the real world you can't have just substance, but need some tiny bit of style to get your message out, or is a well practice troll. I don't want to believe there is someone so ignorant and oblivious to allow the former to be the case. He has a trolling scheme that works quite well, and sticks to it. If he was serious about his message, he would learn and improve, but as a troll, he won't change, as he's achieved near perfection.

    3. Re:DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could he be a troll? If he were a troll, he would be doing an even worse job at whatever it is he is trying to do. If he were trolling, he puts way too much time into writing and makes it too easy to gloss over his stuff. The people trolled or reaction to effort spent trolling ratio would be abysmal. It would be like spending a thousand dollars on a ploy to make someone else take ten dollars in damage. You refuse to believe someone could be that bad at getting a message out, I refuse to believe someone can be that bad at trolling.

    4. Re:DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He'll get people like you hook, line, and sinker. Break from the trolling norm enough, and people won't be able to write you off as as a troll instantly. Why else would he be constantly complaining about trolls attacking him, yet he feeds them like well maintained pets? If he really wanted trolls to stop stalking him and bothering him, he wouldn't make it so easy for other trolls to respond. Instead he's doing a great job of breading a massive shitstorm of posts by encouraging others to troll with him.

    5. Re:DDoS/Dos as you put it (won't work vs. me) by crutchy · · Score: 0

      this is some funny shit... apk is a douche, but its funny getting him wound up (hey at least he seems to despise metro; that's the first ounce i've ever read from him since... well... ever)

  54. on what planet? by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

    On what planet does it make sense to change entries in a file on the system and not even warn the user that you are doing so? And since they are reportedly making the changes selectively, then if there were really an attacker his attack could have made other changes, but the user was never warned that the host file had anything "suspicious" in it and so would not be aware to even look at it and see if there was anything that the Great and Powerful Microsoft had missed. This isn't for the user, it is purely for MS's own interests.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  55. Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject-line above, & thanks for answering: First, my hosts files are in THIS format:

    true IP + hostname equation (favorites top 20 now)
    0.0.0.0 blocked ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS etc.

    (The latter are currently @ 1,800,855++ the rest of the way above 20, so only 20 @ the top which are NOT "intermixed" in my hosts with the blockouts, is just as good as ANY binary seek pattern, & actually better!)

    * Do the math... you'll see: Even a Binary seek on the top 20 doesn't gain by it, since they're first, & cached 1 of 2 ways (see below).

    QUESTION: In basis, that IS something you speak of because it's similar enough on the Big O b.s.?

    Been there, done that, with trolls here on that account... it shut them up!

    (Nice try if so... principles about the same!)

    APK

    P.S.=> That blocking out ads + hardcoding those favs, cached into memory I get massive speed, way better than normal folks do, I get my money's worth in speed/bandwidth, security, reliability, + anonymity that's a bit better!

    (Since hosts is just a file & one your system touches instantly when OS loads + IP stack loads, & when it changes in Windows, so - if marked "Dirty" it reloads into RAM via the faulty with large hosts files local DNS clientside cache service, OR by the method I use of caching via the local kernelmode diskcaching subsystem)... apk

    1. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      So you admit you don't even know what O(1) and O(N) means since you just evaded the question with a wall of bullshit again.

      APK, the great IT quack, doesn't even know basic computer science terms.

      Who is surprised?

    2. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He stated Big O and that's correct. Your point was what?

    3. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Please explain O(1)"

      "Umm, Big O?"

      "..."

      "What? He said it! So it's correct!"

      Nice moron logic.

    4. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's your point using Big O then in this case? Do you know what it means and how it supposedly applies to his work? I don't think you even know. Explain it please.

    5. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still waiting for an answer from the great IT quack.

      If you have to post as one of your own sidekick supporters and try to turn the question into a counter-question, you just show your lack of the answer, APK.

      Because you really don't know what O(1) means, do you?

      You are one sad fuck.

    6. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Profanity doesn't help prove you know what Big O or how to apply it here. Apk burned you already on it here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049693

    7. Re:Your point, vs. this, answer a question too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it matter building a hosts file?

  56. No, it is not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains, such as ad-serving websites

    No. It is a way of assigning local DNS for sites which don't or can't resolve through normal DNS.

    Using hosts to block ads is stupid, always has been stupid and always will be stupid.

    Now APK is probably going to come and tell me how wrong I am.

  57. Reason number 189 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    To not buy windows 8 and just stick with windows 7.

    1. Re:Reason number 189 by PPH · · Score: 1

      Even if you don't buy Windows 8, Microsoft will go into your credit card records and change the entry to reflect a purchase.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    2. Re:Reason number 189 by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      To not buy windows 8 and just stick with windows 7.

      Windows 7 , and even Vista do it too if you have Defender turned on. It isn't a function of the OS, but of Windows Defender.

  58. Malware. by Deathlizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the Hosts file is targeted my malware to redirect to malicious sites and to keep under the radar to infect systems after they have been clean. (or even to a locally hosted proxy to infect sites like Facebook) Personally, I've seen facebook and myspace targeted in it. Never seen doubleclick but my guess is doubleclick is a target so that they can redirect to their own profit generating ads, or more malware to attempt to extort money out of people.

    My guess is that the sites defender removes from hosts are sites that have been targeted by malware in the past. Frankly, I'd like to see the list of domains it looks for, but I'm sure that I woudn't want any of them redirected to some scumware site trying to pawn off fake antivirus.

    1. Re:Malware. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Never seen doubleclick ...

      I have...in my hosts file. I started targetting them to 127.0.0.1 about 10 years ago ;)

    2. Re:Malware. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      And we have had an underwear bomber, should we require people to not wear underwear on airplanes?

      MSFT is doing the stupid trick of being reactive instead of proactive once again.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  59. I NEED that hosts file by humanrev · · Score: 1

    Well, need is subjective. But I like to play Doom 3 every so often (particularly with mods like The Dark Mod, a great Thief clone), and the hosts file is something of a necessity. For those who don't know, Doom 3 originally had old-school CD copy protection (i.e. need the disc in the drive when launching the game). The final patch removed that requirement, but changed it so that the game will attempt to authenticate the serial key against a master key server run by id/Activision. If the key fails (in use by someone else and/or a blacklisted key), the game won't run.

    A few years ago I discovered the game thinks my legit serial key is in use/dodgy for some reason, which put me in a bit of a pickle. Fortunately, I discovered that if I put in a particular domain to redirect to 127.0.0.1 in my system hosts file (and this works for both Windows and Linux), the game won't be able to connect to the key server and will simply assume the key is OK and continue. I could have gotten a crack I suppose but I don't want to have to rely on cracks which may or may not have side-effects, plus I doubt one would exist for Linux anyway.

    Side note: This is one thing I like about this authentication system in old games like this- if it can't verify your key/access, the game gives the player the benefit of the doubt and keeps working. Hence if the game is played when the Internet is down, or the key server disappears, the game will continue to work. Not like modern commercial games.

    --
    Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
    1. Re:I NEED that hosts file by jonwil · · Score: 1

      Given that Doom 3 is now open source (thanks ID) you could always modify it and remove the check against this key server. No need to modify the hosts file then...

    2. Re:I NEED that hosts file by humanrev · · Score: 1

      Good point. I'm tempted to wait for the first release of iodoom3 though before I do that, mainly because of all the backend improvements it's likely to have (though they've already specified in an FAQ that the key check won't be removed).

      --
      Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
  60. Admit it: You WISH you were me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "tnuc das a era yllaer uoy nam" - by Anonymous Coward ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Sunday August 19, @08:04PM (#41049553)

    "???"

    Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?

    ---

    * SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE...

    (Drink that in & digest it, "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", you know it's true... lol!)

    ---

    ("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):

    ---

    #TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)

    def reverse(s):
        try:
            trollstring = ""
            for apksays in s:
            trollstring = apksays + trollstring
        except:
            print("error/abend in reverse function")
        return trollstring

    s = ""
    print reverse(s)

    try:
      s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
      s = reverse(s)
      print(s)
    except Exception as e:
      print(e)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "man you really are a sad cunt" - by Anonymous Coward ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Sunday August 19, @08:04PM (#41049553)

    I am actually a happy normal guy & of course, DO see subject-line above! "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat"... thank-you!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Admit it: You WISH you were me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I had your free time. If I spent it arguing with idiots and trolls on the web though, I would just shoot myself though.

    2. Re:Admit it: You WISH you were me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I'm guessing that, unlike APK, you actually have a real job.

  61. We dealt with a lot of stuff like this in windows7 by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    Solution was to dive into the registry and turn lots and lots of things off.

    Sites that offer up AIO registry hack packs for windows should be more common.

    I would totally pay for it. My time is worth enough that just getting a giant pack that has everything nicely labeled and organized would be worth a mint.

    --
    I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
  62. That's how I always format my posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    @ their termination, apk at the end. "signing off" I like to think of it as... & on careful? Usually am (I do a lot of formatting usually in the "std. form" I use, an "inimitable style" as I call it, lol!).

    Plus, see subject-line:

    Everyone here knows that much, especially trolls (who often try "critique my formatting" of posts etc./et al) - you must be new here... ok, here goes - I have to show you literally examples of my posts in my p.s., it'll help you understand if you've never seen me post before (especially in a hurry):

    * Sorry you found that confusing... I'll have to make a note of that & do my usual (...) ellipses before my post's termination - Usually do, oh well (loads of posts to reply to here's why & neighbors were over drinking a beer with me after work etc. talking, I have really good neighbors so far thank god @ least, etc.)...

    Man - I wonder...I'd bet I forgot to do the close /quote tag the ellipses right after, ala -> ... apk I usually do at the end of my posts @ their termination... so it forces a new line (I do that on mosts posts)

    Heh... lol, that's what I get for being in a hurry + rushed by circumstances (can't even reply to others replying on time).

    APK

    P.S.=> See how I usually end posts - look @ my others here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048493

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049465

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049465

    * http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 (lol, the error here's like a BAD C de-linter not knocking off new/free - malloc/free memory stuff - it's not balancing braces here)

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048633

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41050019

    * = screwups in /. post engine final format on longer posts (YES, that's proof it happens, there's bugs in the machine here, proof's above on these @ end, extra stuff tacked on & more)

    Those examples prior to the one you complain of should suffice as sufficient evidence of my normal style in posts, and how I do it (even in the subject-line of many, like this one & others from above).

    You'll understand, via Visual Learning/examples, literally, right, See with no /quote->?... apk now, see one with closequote See with /quote->?

    ... apk

    1. Re:That's how I always format my posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Man - I wonder...I'd bet I forgot to do the close /quote tag the ellipses right after, ala -> ... apk I usually do at the end of my posts @ their termination... so it forces a new line (I do that on mosts posts)

      Ellipsis wouldn't of helped, it was the missing new line/paragraph. Considering the thin ice you are on with certain people, such carelessness could give them way too much to go on. Would suck to have someone quote it out of context for the next couple of years.

  63. Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by aepervius · · Score: 2

    If one redirect a site to 127.0.0.1 from the aforementionned double click, chance that it is a malware is nil. Before removing the entry windows defender should check the IP and leave it for those site at 127.0.0.1. OTOH if it is an anti virus site it should remove it if it is precisely 127.0.0.1. If they went the extra way to check for some specific web site, then they should have done the extra way and check for the IP. Or make a pop up windows warning of the behavior and how to stop it.

    --
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    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
    visit randi.org
    1. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by thogard · · Score: 1

      127.0.0.1 is bad for that because if malware sets up a local proxy, it will be on that address. 0.0.0.0 also won't work but 127.0.0.0 might provide the desired effect since its in the local hardware route table with nothing listening so it fails quickly.

    2. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, because the malware may be hosting a phishing site (www.bankofamerica.com perhaps) on 127.0.0.1 as part of itself. Invalid IP addresses like 0.0.0.0 can be kept, but it's not clear that's what's happening. It could be that Defender is actually just replacing the modified hosts file with a backup version. The trick is probably just to get the backup version modified so that's what it reverts to.

      dom

    3. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by IAmR007 · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with using 0.0.0.0? It's defined in ipv4 to designate an invalid IP, and unlike 127.0.0.0/8 addresses, it won't hit local web servers or have to wait to time out.

    4. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TBH, it could be directing to a malicious local server.

      But yeah, this is dumb.

    5. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please do not use 127.0.0.1 in your hosts file. This is MY IP address and if people continue to abuse it like this I WILL host malware on it!

    6. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $ telnet 0 80
      Trying 0.0.0.0...
      Connected to 0.
      Escape character is '^]'.

      This has worked on nearly every system I've used over the past few decades.
      Most BSD derived tcp stacks redirect 0.0.0.0 to local host and may even work when 127.1 is down. And yes 127.1 turns into 127.0.0.1 since 127 the class A network and 1 has the host name. That is unless the name resolver sees it a host name and fails the lookup.

    7. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      If one redirect a site to 127.0.0.1 ...

      I redirect to 127.0.0.2 you insensitive clod!

      Interestingly RDP won't connect to 'localhost'. In Win7 it won't connect to 127.0.0.1 either. But it will connect to 127.0.0.2.

    8. Re:Evene if it is windows defender it is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Local HTTP proxy run by malware, easy for malware to do if it's already gotten into the system.

      Imagine a case where malware redirected facebook to 127.0.0.1 and acted as 'ransomware', unblocking facebook via the hosts file after payment.

      The intent of a hosts file entry can't be derived automatically.

  64. What alternatives are there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of bitching and moaning... what are my alternatives to editing the hosts file?

    As a web programmer, I edit that file once or twice a week. Not to block anything, just to bypass DNS for debugging.

    Setting up my own private DNS is a juge headache, and making changes/propogating them is a hastle. Editing a hosts file takes two seconds.

    What should I ise after upgrading to win 8?

  65. Re:The internet (or networks) are more than the we by gweihir · · Score: 1

    The "Airgap" meme is still around? Surprises me as it is basically a direct lie. Best implementation I saw was a wireless link combined with a firewall, i.e. reasl, physical and completely meaningless air-gap.

    --
    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  66. Glad you understand that's how I format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    As I showed consistency in my posting style in so many posts here & now it's undeniable I didn't post my usual way, & I was in a hurry (neighbors over drinking beer doesn't help, but great people, left me food (ribs))

    Plus - sorry for delay in reply, busy as hell for some reason tonite... lol, even though I won't give a grammar troller the second of day usually, I made an exception with you.

    Plus man... there's a lot of questions being asked of me, or, posts like yours.

    * That's all!

    Now, I've got things to do here (Garbage night), & must listen to this first to get "motivated" properly:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WkTtAb4Yzg

    (It's the great band, "CoNcreTe - BLoNde" - what I consider punk/new wave @ its finest & best era too...)

    WTF?!?

    Now, my stupid cats escaped into the upper part of this place where new tennants are coming in, & they won't come out & I have to get them out, they're moving in stuff by the day till the end of the month...

    (WTF! I have to chase the 3 cats down now... ah, solution = FOOD! Works wonders with cats - these like baloney of all things, lol... glad I took time to think that strategy/psychology out!)...

    BRB!

    Got the cat! Man, what a night... food worked though.

    APK

    P.S.=> In the end, I am making more certain to put the USUAL "ellipses" @ the end of my posts, as I showed you ALL of my other posts have here (as well as errors in the slashdot formatting engine).

    So even though I hate grammar trollers, this was worth pursuing & "Clearing My Name" on, like usual... Plus, besides?

    I really do NOT need to take credit for others, I've done quite a bit of decent stuff in the art & science of computing without having to be THAT "low", lol..

    ---

    Man - now that I think about it?

    I could burn more time, & I could and actually I should look at my post as "source" to see if it was I that made the error, or the slashdot formatting engine!

    Hey - that I showed already as a possibility too, but I will wait on that until later ... (I showed it has errors)

    ... apk

    1. Re:Glad you understand that's how I format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the consistency didn't really matter to me. No need to find a dozen links or explain why you were in a hurry. A simple "Slashdot formatting ate my line break" or a "I left off a closing tag" was all that was needed.

  67. Real solution to PC Security? Layered! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    As much as you can (to a point as needed only of course for certain use-cases)!

    Face it, I use ALL of this - I wrote it:

    http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000/XP%22&btnG=Search&gbv=1&sei=y6UxUMf5CY_g6wHT04C4Dg

    & practically wrote the book on "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" on PC's per that guide... sound cocky? Read on...

    (Nice part is the above, one day getting sick of seeing malware run rampage on many folks systems, knowing I was never "hit" since 1995-1996 doing that guide? Well, turned out nice & got me paid a tiny fee on 1 spot it did well in)

    It began way, Way, WAY back in 1996 or so... proof here:

    I have done so since 1997-1998 with the most viewed, highly rated guide online for Windows security there really is which came from the fact I also created the 1st guide for securing Windows, highly rated @ NEOWIN (as far back as 1998-2001) here:

    http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text

    & from as far back as 1997 -> http://web.archive.org/web/20020205091023/www.ntcompatible.com/article1.shtml which Neowin above picked up on & rated very highly.

    That has evolved more currently, into the MOST viewed & highly rated one there is for years now since 2008 online in the 1st URL link above...

    Which has well over 500,000++ views online (actually MORE, but 1 site with 75,000 views of it went offline/out-of-business) & it's been made either:

    ---

    1.) An Essential Guide
    2.) 5-5 star rated
    3.) A "sticky-pinned" thread
    4.) Most viewed in the category it's in (usually security)
    5.) Got me PAID by winning a contest @ PCPitStop (quite unexpectedly - I was only posting it for the good of all, & yes, "the Lord works in mysterious ways", it even got me PAID -> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2007/09/04/pc-pitstop-winners/ (see January 2008))

    ---

    Across 15-20 or so sites I posted it on back in 2008... & here is the IMPORTANT part, in some sample testimonials to the "layered security" methodology efficacy:

    ---

    SOME QUOTED TESTIMONIALS TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF SAID LAYERED SECURITY GUIDE I AUTHORED:

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

    "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life

    1. Re:Real solution to PC Security? Layered! by crutchy · · Score: 1

      you wrote the book on how to be a homo

  68. Noise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice snarky post, pity you couldn't be bothered to back any of it up with even a single example.

    Talk is cheap punk.

    You offer nothing but noise to this discussion.

    1. Re:Noise... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Uhhh...he GAVE you an example, his shop floor manufacturing software requires it, end of story. Anybody who has worked with SMBs knows you end up with a ton of niche software that can have some crazy requirements, hell I've had to build a DOS 3 box in 2008 because a shop had a $150k lathe that required a PC with an ISA slot running DOS 3 to use the unit.

      In the end frankly it shouldn't matter WHY he is using it, what should matter is MSFT is taking choice away from you yet again with no real gains. If MSFT thinks its a malware vector? Then let the use of HOSTS be set by GPO using local access. that way those that actually need it can enable it and those that don't use it will have it off by default. Frankly more and more MSFT is reminding me of a bad Apple ripoff with their "our way or the highway" attitude on everything, but unlike Apple their biggest customers aren't consumers, its businesses who are more likely to have the weird corner cases that this will cause headaches for.

      --
      ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
    2. Re:Noise... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      It looks like you've responded to the wrong post, friend.

      --
      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    3. Re:Noise... by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      No, I believe he did reply to the correct one. If you click the Parent link in his post, you can see. However the problem here is that for some reason Slashdot hides some messages sometimes. I myself see this message above his, when I'm in the main thread view.

  69. LOL, I like to "cover my a$$ is all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hence the details... thanks for reply, & most grammar pickers aren't that cool (then again, doesn't seem like you're trolling me on it either - most do, @ times it ticks me off when it's COMPLETELY off topic crap, this wasn't exactly.. hence the time I burned on it with you...).

    * 1 thing /.'s "ground into me" in a good way? Proofs, citations, detail... it matters, especially in situations where you MUST prove a point: SLASHDOT IS THE "SHOW ME STATE" OF THE INTERNET, lol...

    (Hence the dozen post examples, lol, from me on my posting format/style to prove my point to you/clear my name... I don't need to ream anyone else's glories, I have some ok ones of my own in the art & science of computing...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Garbage is out, time to listen to that tune & my FAV cat "Grey Puss" (what a name, right?) is licking my fingers (sandpaper tongued best pal of mine, lol)... gotta run now they're inside & need more food + I want to eat the ribs my neighbors gave me & it's nearly midnite here too (sleep time, might do a few more replies, but that's it)

    ... apk

    1. Re:LOL, I like to "cover my a$$ is all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they don't believe "It was a typo," they are not going to believe you no matter how many citations and past posts you link to. Others, on the other hand might use it is as fuel to attack you. Most probably will just not bother reading a wall of text when a simply reply might do, in which case it would have been better off to just ignore the post you were replying to.

  70. particularly update.microsoft.com by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Considering that the only time that software ever deliberately damaged my system (and actually managed to damage my firmware) it was from update.microsoft.com, I wouldn't be so fast to assume that if you frond that URL blocked, that it wasn't intentional on the part of the user..

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  71. Like my last post topic said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "I wish I had your free time." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @11:23PM (#41050635)

    See my subject-line, & YOU SAID IT (not me joking around this time either like I was last post due to your trolling me with profanities!).

    (You actually sound like "the sad cunt" you called me with now listening to YOUR post reply quoted above, man... seriously!)

    ---

    "If I spent it arguing with idiots and trolls on the web though, I would just shoot myself though." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @11:23PM (#41050635)

    Man, then WHAT are you doing on slashdot posting now then, for Pete's sake? Answer = NOT ARGUING WITH AN IDIOT (no idiot here in MOST things, well, except maybe sometimes blowing it with say, a beautiful woman, lol)...

    That from you now, which is better than your earlier profanity? That's near borderline "pot calling a kettle black" you know.

    Lastly - That "solution" of yours truly IS the permanent solution to most problems, & most are temporary - luck, change?

    They happen you know, but YOU MAKE THEM HAPPEN... get it?? You are determining how you live, unconsciously too believe it or not, every second "The future is now"... good things never come easy though, not really, & not the really good things. Takes work usually imo & experience1

    APK

    P.S.=> Hope you cheer up... you actually sound like you need a "good day" & I wish you one, troll or not... apk

  72. Is for advertising or piracy? by mimicoctopus · · Score: 1

    A lot of cracks rely on changing the host file to prevent activation / phone home. Maybe this has something to do with Microsoft's decision.

  73. Common hosts file use by mycroft16 · · Score: 1

    Piracy. Using the hosts file to block calls from installers out to verification servers is pretty common. This would effectively end that method for circumvention.

    1. Re:Common hosts file use by allo · · Score: 1

      Piracy. Using the hosts file to block calls from installers out to verification servers is pretty common.

      [citation needed]

    2. Re:Common hosts file use by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      Piracy. Using the hosts file to block calls from installers out to verification servers is pretty common. This would effectively end that method for circumvention.

      No it wouldn't. People that are using cracks would know how to stop Defender (or not use it altogether).

      Besides, it is widely known that you cannot stop piracy using dumb technical means. No DRM or Copy Protection truly works and all have been cracked, broken or circumvented.

      --
      "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) --
  74. That's OK, thanks to you (seriously)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    That's ok - I'll just link to the reaction of the initial "grammar-checker" post's poster (assuming it's still you, just tough to tell with ac repliers, most don't "sign off" like I do as APK)... if that doesn't cover it, & I think it will?

    Oh well!

    PLUS, Hey - I can always say what I did, & that's that I've done a few decent things in the art & sciences of computing that made tech trade shows, publications galore, made me ca$h on the side above working in this field + more, here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048363

    In response to the troll's whose post brought me here in the 1st place - metrix007, whom I have repeatedly "Blown Away" on hosts files 8x literally before on /. ...

    Seriously, based on that only SMALL list @ the top in that link that's only partial?

    HEY - I have NO NEED to try "ream" someone else's "glories"/achievements for myself... again - not THAT "low" here, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks for the advice though, it's sound enough & probably will happen, lol, & I'll just "blow it away" + the troll with it, thanks to you... apk

  75. Don't you mean "lay waste to all trolls?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See this first - it's the power of links YOU all gave me as you said, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    * Like the analogy? It fits...

    PLUS, the trolling post starter "metrix007" whose taken a beating from me 8x over the years here on hosts files that started the thread trollingly directed MY way as usual:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048097

    ?

    Hehe, he's "Boagreus" in that film clip already, down for the count, silenced (... lol!)

    ---

    To quote "the Lord Humungous" from "The Road Warrior"?

    "I AM THE LORD OF THE WASTELAND (lol, slashdot): ALL THAT EXISTS HERE, IS MINE!"

    Except I suppose, you can call me this: "The Lord of HOSTS", per the topic of course, ala -> http://www.rzim.org/slice/slicearticleprint.aspx?aid=8423

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power."

    ---

    The protective power, of hosts files IN combination with filtering DNS servers, firewalls, & other forms of "Layered-Security"/"Defense-in-Depth", ala this:

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    Also courtesy of "yours truly"... lol! You asked for links? You got 'em, upon request.

    APK

    P.S.=> Proof? Ok, and its LINKS, like you said I use... hey. it's solid proof in black & white!

    ---

    My initial reply to metrix007 showing he blew it off the bat on hosts & Windows 8 (lol, Boagreus):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    "Metrix007 & Boagreus LIVED BY THE SWORD, they died by it too... lol!"

    ---

    Then, his FINAL defeat (in a single blow like AKilleus son of Peleus did him, in the film clip) metrix007 blown away on yet another troll point of his -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048363

    Now, you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

    This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"

    (Just like taking down metrix & 3-4 others right after he during my challenge to ANY here to disprove my points on hosts files & benefits I listed they give users)... apk

  76. Re:That won't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no way to tell Windows Defender not to mess with the hosts file and adding it to the ignore/exclusion list won't work because that only affects scanning for malware which is a different feature. The only thing you can do is disable Windows Defender entirely (or for now, block SYSTEM from writing/modifying the file but that won't work for long).

  77. No, just a challenge (enhanced by film) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    * That's all...

    Good luck disproving its points, IF you decide to try... a few here have & failed (4 or so, 5 if you include the post starter metrix007 - but, he's failed vs. myself @ least 8x on that, 9 now as of this thread in fact HE started trying to troll me, lol, & FAILING right off the bat!) - see here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048633

    and of course, metrix007 right off the bat (the troll that started this thread):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    (ALL THE SAME ERRORS TOO, ironic, & due to faulty reading & NOT "RTFA" source!)

    Plus, many here have *tried* over time, & all failed!

    None could even put a dent in the fact hosts files are EXCELLENT tools for numerous reasons for end users in speed, security, reliability, even anonymity + more!

    (Especially over competing solutions like DNS + Browser addons like AdBlock - often doing MORE than those can, more "myriad functionality" from a SINGLE FILE, for less - often complimenting them transparently & smoothly, overcoming THEIR issues too...!)

    After all - Doing more, WITH LESS = GOOD Engineering (usually)!

    Hosts can do what other solutions can, & more + work with them perfectly too!

    Hosts do more, with less!

    Less CPU cycles usage (than firewalls or DNS or AdBlock) & better Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode efficiency since hosts are only a filter for the already efficient BSD derived IP stacks out there - That's less than browser addons, & it can do more (like aid speed to favorite sites as well as blocking ads OVER ADBLOCK. & reliability too over poisoned DNS servers) for less (via a single file of massively useful ubiquitous nature).

    APK

    P.S.=> So, "that all said & aside": Go for it, disprove my points there, prove me wrong (doubt you can), but IF someone managed to?

    I'd only get stronger for it, & so would my points on hosts!

    ... apk

  78. Wrong use of hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts file is not for blocking contents, hosts file is for overriding DNS entries. Or more correct, a file where you look for a host to ip translation before you consult your DNS. The file can point a host name to the wrong IP, effectivily blocking access to that host (site), but that is not what this file is for. Missuse and missunderstandings. But please ./ check your facts.

    1. Re:Wrong use of hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is it wrong when it works? You're stupid.

  79. Sorry, I didn't send them an article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "I had just assumed APK had submitted this story himself." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @06:31PM (#41048977)

    NOR did I submit one here,so, that, & see subject-line!

    As to /.? LMAO - Yes, I've probably "pissed 'em off" SOME, with this:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049577

    Since it allows me to be "The SUPERIOR Warrior" vs. trolls, more than matching them by ac, and equaliing them as "registered 'lusers'" here, which I find NO value in, & in fact, a tracking nightmare detriment for what? Karma points?? It's not me.

    (Anyhow, that link? It truly makes me "LIMITLESS" here, ala this film -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THE_hhk1Gzc&feature=related , do see it - pretty darn good Sci-Fi: My technique's original, breaks no rules, allows unlimited posts as ac, & just rocks... fast too! )

    I've submitted some, they know my general IP address & may have just decided not to post them (one was on a NEAT DDoS appliance, hardware assist vs.DDoS attacks, couldn't believe they rejected it - it'd be a hit here I think! Anyhow...)

    ---

    "But then there is a contradiction, did the editors actually edit the story to fix his writing issues, or did he actually write more coherently, and not in third person, for once?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @06:31PM (#41048977)

    LMAO - Ok: As to my alleged off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attack attempt on what YOU perceive in possibly ADD/ADHD or Dyslexic peronal issues of your own that are probably getting in your way reading?

    Well, sorry - I don't write like "hooked on phonics" so you may not be used to more advanced forms of communication like that, as to my "writing issues" you speak of?

    PLUS LASTLY & MOST IMPORTANTLY:

    Opinions CLEARLY vary in a 200++1 ratio vs. yourself, on that VERY account!

    See below, per this proof thereof from your own peers here on /.:

    ---

    Roughly 200++ of them & I post as AC (hard to get even +1, as /. hides our posts & we "AC"'s start @ ZERO/0 points, unlike registered "lusers", lol!):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):

    HOSTS & BGP:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450
    FIREFOX IN DANGER: 2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2559120&cid=38268580
    TESLA:2010 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1872982&cid=34264190
    TESLA:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1806946&cid=33777976
    NVIDIA 2d:2006 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147
    COMPUTER ASSOCIATES BUSTED FOR ACCOUNTING FRAUD:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102

    ----

    +4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (5):

    APK SECURITY GUIDE:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198
    INFO. SYSTEMS WORK:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817
    WINDOWS @ NASDAQ 7++ YRS. NOW:2009 ->

  80. Winning is how, as usual! Lmao... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, to also "sharpen the sword" as the saying goes, pun intended here? This as well:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048493

    "Is there No One Else...? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?!?...

    No one ever disproves my points on hosts file!

    4-5 of them fell here already as ac trolls!

    HOWEVER:

    1 tried "Big O" theory crap on me, so as per my usual? I just blew that away too!

    (The 3-4 others are stupid reading errors in skimming they made, by not "RTFA", not worth noting - especially my response to metrix007 here, the troll that tried ridiculing me on hosts & blew it right from the start, for skimming, not getting all details!)

    The 1 ac though? Where I used Binary Seeks??

    His @ least had SOME thought behind it! A more worthy "kill" for me, lol!

    My list of points on hosts you trolls always give me guff on? Face facts:

    They're SOLID undeniable truths, & thus, they are, essentially unassailable, like the film character A Killeus son of Peleus...

    ... apk

  81. Addendum to 1st reply to you: TROY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    * "Gotta love it", lol... I do!

    Why? See below... that's my challenge to trolls that give me guff on hosts files, which is, as I am sure you know, happens a LOT here.

    (I always dust my naysayers in it though... with facts!)

    APK

    P.S.=> TROY alright... lol, more like DESTROY all trolls who attempt to combat my points on custom hosts files! 4-5 are down already 1st round (4 on DUMB errors on trolls parts though, but not 1, still I blew him away too... ac trolls: NO CHALLENGE!)

    LIke I said to you in my reply:

    "Unassailable", is the WORD of the day, with "Invulnerable", adamantium skin & neutronium skeleton! Perfect... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Addendum to 1st reply to you: TROY! by crutchy · · Score: 1

      is that you bill o'rielly?

  82. Are you a licensed psychiatric pro? No?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    ac troll's ranting/raving reply minus proofs like a PhD in the psychiatric sciences, a license to practice in said science, as well as a formal examination of myself given in a professional environs is nothing short of libel, as well as an illogical off-topic failing ad hominem attack attempt upon me... pitiful! Same with the malware author & fraud libel... Please!

    * Is that the 'best you've got' troll?

    Please... see my p.s. below!

    APK

    P.S.=> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299 says it all to trolls such as yourself!

    (However, at least the 5 naysayers like metrix007 who started with trolling of myself stayed on topic in their trollery, you're an off topic troll for it (face it) + lacking credentials & formal exams to back up your lunacy also? Weak!)

    You are FAILING, like metrix007 who started up with me, opening this exchange here, & that link's challenge 9x now he's lost & run from, to myself!

    Troy alright, lol - DESTROY, & that's what the list of my facts on hosts files you fools always LOSE to me on vs. facts I utilize makes it possible!

    Thank-You, seriously, for making ME, look GOOD... & you? Not so good... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Are you a licensed psychiatric pro? No?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by asserting that one needs a PhD to state perfectly obvious facts about him.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "libel" that does not apply in the real world.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven the two previous statements to be correct, as I said he would.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct, along with all the others just added.

  83. It's a security improvement. by mysidia · · Score: 1

    The HOSTS file is not for blocking things; it is for optionally providing an alternative way of looking up some local names besides using DNS, in an enterprise network with what is today called a local intranet. It has fallen into disuse, mostly exists for legacy reasons; maintaining HOSTS files across machines in a network is inefficient; maintaining a local DNS service is normally the more appropriate strategy, and blacklisting can be implemented on the Enterprise's DNS service.

    A perfectly appropriate firewalling mechanism exists in Windows called Windows Firewall with Advanced Security; which allows you to set an outbound firewall rule to block opening all connections to a specified server. This is safer than HOSTS file, because it simply blocks the address, without tampering DNS lookup results, and enabling a site to be repointed to a phishing site..

    HOSTS file is commonly abused or misused for nefarious purposes; its use for any purpose is strongly discouraged, and has been unsupported for a long time. It would be no surprise to see the DNS resolver of a future version of Windows drop HOSTS file functionality entirely, and move towards Group policy configuration, or Administrator registry configuration for any 'manual local names'.

    HOSTS file use as a mechanism for blocking or 'firewalling' things is also unsupported. The HOSTS file is not a firewall, and the HOSTS it not a DNS access control mechanism. It's still perfectly legitimate for a DNS resolver to attempt lookup via the DNS as a failover strategy, if the entry in the HOSTS file seems bad or non-responsive. Browsers may do this; browsers may even bypass the HOSTS file entirely, because it is commonly abused by malware.

    Malware and Adware commonly mess with this file to hijack users' browser by creating false host entries for common websites to point them to malware author-controlled domains.

    Disabling the ability to silently do this on consumer-targeted OSes improves security. This security feature/change is appropriate for end-user systems that are not part of a large enterprise intranet with unusual requirements necessitating local resolver entries.

    If the site is intended to be blocked or "legitimately" hijacked/misdirected; enterprises have more appropriate, more scalable means of implementing this; such as DNS server based blacklisting, and configurations on edge firewalls.

  84. No I just GET to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "He'll get people like you hook, line, and sinker." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @10:27PM (#41050327)

    See subject-line above - I get to Ac trolls like you, & then "get you in the end", with concrete, visible, verifiable, + undeniable facts -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    You like old westerns? LOL, by the end of this, as is my usual in these conflicts with you ac trolls??

    I will be the guy who walks out with the jug of whisky/wine and the chick over his shoulder, when the smoke & cacophony inside the tavern ceases, & out of the swinging doors of it... WITH the BOOTY (in all forms, lol, pun intended).

    You ac trolls have no guts, will, or confidence that you troll me by ac posts (and you do have registered 'luser' accounts, you're just trolling me by ac posts now is all, since you can elect to post ac!)... doing your ac trolling only SHOWS you know I'll dust you in the end.

    You know it, I know it... I think everyone here, knows it, every time you ac troll fools try it!

    * The word of the day is TROY!

    APK

    P.S.=> As in DESTROY any trolls such as yourself with facts & a challenge on this very topic off-topic ac trolls like youself do here, but never manage to disprove my points on hosts files... are you 1 of these 3 people?

    ---

    1.) Advertiser Online or affliated with one

    2.) Webmaster

    3.) Malware maker/botnet master

    ??

    ---

    Each stands to lose when hosts become LARGELY USED, and they know it... they'd fight them, but truth always wins in the end. Adapt to Survive, or die in their world of business right? Right, the strong ALWAYS survive & may the strongest do so. Business = Jungle.

    However, consumers (which is ALL of us) gain. That's my goal here on many levels in security, speed, reliability, fixing issues other solutions have, & even better anonymity to an extent + more... that's all. It's job #1, because "not only am I the president of the hair club for men, I'm also a customer" as the famous ad went.

    Thanks for the answer though...

    Especially since your type gives me guff on hosts, or tries weak off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks on ME (b.s. usually), rather than MY POINTS (on hosts especially)...

    In the end? You'll evade that challenge, or screw up IF you try it... trust me on that one - many have tried for decades now, none succeed, & since you're a cowardly troll? You certainly NEVER will... I am confident in that. Disprove my points on hosts on valid technical grounds with backing proof thereof? You win. You don't, well... you know who wins then! It really is, that simple...

    ... apk

  85. Uh oh! Where's apk? I know He can save me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    apk! Where are you? Microsoft is destroying all your good works! Help!

  86. Adobe's Activation Servers are going 2 be offline by delete2kill · · Score: 0

    all known crack /keygen/patch for adobe software relies on HOSTS file CS4 Serial number gets invalid serial number message when ... : kb407408 Error "You entered an invalid serial number..." when you ... : kb401677 "Licensing for this product has stopped working" on Windows : kb405970 "Licensing for this product has stopped working" on Mac OS : cpsid_51260 creativesuite 4 /5 http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4.html

  87. You ac trolls are the ones running around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Wound up like dolls I have running around here, perfectly wound up, by the master himself, me... lol!

    How can I say that?

    Well, 1st of all, most of the responses giving me crap are by ac replies, no indicator at all of WHO it really is, bogus, & they're posting as ac trolls!

    (Thus they project that you have no self-confidence, or confidence in the topic @ hand either, thus why they, and yes you/you're usually always WAY off topic, & you expect to lose since you're weak on the topical material @ hand too, thus the ac posts, & you DO have registered accounts like metrix007 who immediately fell on his face again, 9th time now no less, starting his trolling on hosts with me).

    My reply & challenge (5 tried all fell, only 1 was actually a bit of thought though, others utter trollish reading mistakes, like metrix007, lol, on his opening post here!) is simple:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    "When the world is yours, everyone wants a piece", ala myself being Eddie Morra in this film, vs. you trolls -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THE_hhk1Gzc&feature=related

    "Limitless"... vs. you limited ac trolls, lol!

    "I see every scenario. That's what it does Carl. It puts me 50 moves ahead of you"

    ---

    "this is some funny shit" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:29AM (#41051795)

    It is when I see all of you, for YEARS NOW, fail to disprove my points on hosts files which I end up turning the tables on you & showing + proving benefits... on many levels!

    ---

    "... apk is a douche" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:29AM (#41051795)

    Says crutchy who tried trolling me here:

    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2808773&cid=39855971

    Where, in the end as I told you Mr. Duke, CRUTCHY HAD TO "EAT HIS WORDS" vs. a 200++:1 ratio of /. posters his peers, clearly thought otherwise vs. his b.s. trolling off topic ad hominem attack failing illogical waste of /. forums space, & facts-truths made him run, with math of course... lol!

    As you can all see? he "Failed, & Ran" a std, troll maneuver, along with evasions + off-topic b.s., like you!

    Man, is crutchy just some sockpuppet or what??

    ---

    "but its funny getting him wound up" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:29AM (#41051795)

    Not @ all, see above... when you're right, you're RIGHT, & I'm right on all accounts noted, no questions asked.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "at least he seems to despise metro; that's the first ounce i've ever read from him since... well... ever" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:29AM (#41051795)

    Crutchy, attempting to troll me, the 200++:1 ratio vs. your troll opinion off topic as usual, vs. myself, that stunned you speechless last time you tried this?? Please, get ready now... here comes!

    First - I don't despise it. I don't think it fits my PC use case pattern, nor that of many others!

    (We're used to the Win9x shell desktop for ages is why - why change a good thing?).

    I'm FAR from alone in my sentiments about it, & I like, use, program Win16/32/64 for decades now too... it's what I like, use, & don't feel a need for change, for the reasons I noted in my initials replies in fact + others.

    By the way - please:

    You read ounces eh? Of what??

    Ahem - Sure you're not smoking ounces of (insert stupid shit here) lol, with that fragment/incomplete sentence??

    ... apk

    Crutchy, attempting to troll me, the 200++:1 ratio vs. your troll opinio

    1. Re:You ac trolls are the ones running around by crutchy · · Score: 1

      i'm sorry i couldn't understand you with your mom's cock in your mouth

  88. FINALLY APK admits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1.) Harder to work with firewall rules table than textfile (for the inexperienced)

    Finally, APK admits being inexperienced. Thank you, sir.

  89. "'CruTcHy', the TROLL!!!" - rotflmao... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    An application of... "ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy" - 4 off-topic trolls like you:

    "?ylleir'o llib uoy taht si" - by crutchy (1949900) ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Monday August 20, @03:30AM (#41051801)

    "???"

    Uhm... Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?

    ---

    "CruTcHy", you FAILED vs. myself before in your trollish posts and "opinion" in a 200++:1 ratio (currently) from your /. peers disagreeing with you on elements of my posts

    Fact is/was - They uprated me on many technical topics so your b.s.? Pure B.S. - Another NOW derived, fact!

    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2808773&cid=39855971

    Where, in the end as I told you Mr. Duke:

    "CruTcHy" HAD TO "EAT HIS WORDS" vs. a 200++:1 ratio of /. posters his peers, clearly thought otherwise vs. his b.s. trolling off topic ad hominem attack failing illogical waste of /. forums space, & facts-truths made him run, with math of course... lol!

    ?

    Please... lol! When I write you name, I picture "Krusty the Clown" (lol) as a troll online, lmao, "CruTcHy"...

    So there you go - Those are my actual thoughts of how you look and act, lol, based on how you act here! Reprehensible off-topic trollery. Nothing more... & failing, lol!

    ---

    * And, you're an off-topic troll - no questions asked...SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE!!

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes, it must "CruTcHy" an off-topic done nothing of significance with his life troll spewing his off-topic b.s. again & not contributing to the ongoing conversations. Oh well - No biggie!

    ("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):

    ---

    #TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)

    def reverse(s):
        try:
            trollstring = ""
            for apksays in s:
            trollstring = apksays + trollstring
        except:
            print("error/abend in reverse function")
        return trollstring

    s = ""
    print reverse(s)

    try:
      s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
      s = reverse(s)
      print(s)
    except Exception as e:
      print(e)

    ---

    ... apk/b

    1. Re:"'CruTcHy', the TROLL!!!" - rotflmao... apk by crutchy · · Score: 0

      how original

  90. Re:Ok - good: I love it (good man, but: See inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Centrally maintained's easy too - logon scripts &/or autoexec parse via gpedit.msc can make copying updated current hosts files a SNAP in Windows AD environs (or other networked environs).

    So that's centrally maintained for you? Sync only at login? And over the day, any changes have to wait till the next login?

    This is worse than kindergarten IT. You're nothing but a quack.

  91. Re:Ok - good: I love it (good man, but: See inside by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    2.) Eats CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O

    Hosts file doesnt have to be loaded into RAM? Rejecting packets outright is more CPU intensive than trying to route to 0.0.0.0, having to do a route lookup, failing, and discarding the session? Hosts file doesnt incur I/O penalty?

    Dude, you are so far out there on this one, Im not sure you understand how quick your average firewall can drop a session compared to relying on a crappy HOSTS file redirect to 0.0.0.0.

    Hell, look up rootkit.com, & see their article on "Windows Firewall" Vista onwards being EASIER to "unhook".

    When I spoke of a "centrally managed firewall", that is most emphatically not the Windows Firewall. Cisco, Sonicwall, pfSense, ipTables, take your pick, all of them are zillions of times better than Hosts:
    1) faster
    2) easier to maintain
    3) has built in logging
    4) user cant bypass or tamper, even with escalation exploit
    5) less prone to breakage
    6) can filter by protocol, hostname, and port, not just IP

    But you know what? Keep pushing hosts files as a viable business solution, Im sure youll get lots of business doing so.

  92. You're a tool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "GNU/Linux is just Stallman's attempt to take the lion's share of credit"

    Bullshit, kid.

    One example of the problem of using Linux to mean GNU/Linux is Android. How many people whine about how Android and Google are stuffing things up by maing "Linux" closed source? This is because Android isn't Linux, it's Dalvik/Linux.

    As to your Ubuntu, it is the OS.

    PS have a look at the size of the "small toolchain" that is GNU software, not the Linux Kernel. Wattawankeryouare.

    1. Re:You're a tool. by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      No, fuck you. The majority of the stuff in Linux distributions is not GNU. There are various GNU toolchain items, yes. There's also some BSD toolchain items, a metric fuckton of non-GNU items (the entire GUI subsystem for a start).

      And perhaps as important, or even more so, is that the GNU toolchain is useless without a kernel such as Linux, but Linux still retains its usefulness without GNU. So how you can claim that not only is it vitally important that we recognise the GNU components as part of the OS name, but also that we recognise it as the most important part of the OS by including the name GNU first frankly boggles the mind. GNU is not an operating system, and nor is GNU/Linux. If we're required to include the GNU in the name then the system really has to include the name of every major component. So BSD/GNU/X11/.../Linux.

      Moronic fuckwit.

      --
      For a site about things like basic rights, Slashdot users sure do like to censor "dissent".
  93. Doubleclick Is Google! by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

    Doubleclick is Google. This is probably just Microsoft trying to brown-nose its way with them...

  94. Running around your mom Peter ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh my Dearest Peter, so many post of yours in such a short time ? I think I'm going to enter the game very soon Peter

    Love,

    Your Precious

  95. Linux only. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another reason I went to Linux only.

  96. Unknown IP address? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

    I certainly don't want it redirected to some other unknown IP address!

    There's no place like 127.0.0.1. It's hardly an unknown IP address

    --
    Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
  97. Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    For deduplication/normalization over its usual intake of fresh/new records. Doing it now, so might as well give you the breakdown of its process run:

    Here is the screenshot of each tab noted below so you know where each stage occurs -> http://start64.com/images/win64/security/apk-hosts-file-engine-1.png

    ---

    IMPORT = 1 min. 15 seconds

    NORMALIZATION/DEDUPLICATION = 15 seconds

    CONVERT & FILTER (longest part, touches every record) = 9 minutes

    SPEED UP FAVORITE SITES = 20 seconds (I do 20 of them)

    SAVE = 10 seconds

    ---

    Over 145,000 new records... around 11 minutes total runtime!

    The "convert/filter" stage which gets rid of duplicates, bulk useless data like comments in hosts, and converts to the blocking IP address you want for records (options for the larger/slower 127.0.0.1 or the smaller/faster 0.0.0.0 exist), the sorts them alphabetically on blocking the known bad sites & more...

    That's the "time killer" and CPU killer since it's largely string processing (but it's not bad either & most importantly it works!).

    * It is extremely accurate too, that's the most important part &, it's "GUI EASY" to use...

    (As I leave NO imported data records untouched, & make sure they are all correct, uniform, and deduplicated).

    It takes less time, if you don't import in & work on data from sites that haven't updated their data the day you run it (hence the config screen, which is merely a set of checkboxes that tell it to IMPORT (or NOT) from any of the 12 sites it gets data from for custom hosts file creation...

    APK

    P.S.=> Over 1.8 million records, it's only a bit longer in the normalization/deduplication stage, that sends it up to 10-12 minutes on an Intel Core I7 920 QuadCore CPU running @ 2.67ghz here... apk

    1. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2727 entries processed per second (1.8 million in 11 minutes), on a quad 2.67 ghz processor means you're spending around 4 million processor cycles per entry.
      Holy sub-optimal algorithm, Batman!

    2. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Holy accurate data batman and easy to use GUI too. Beat that with a stick & disprove all of these points in favor of custom hosts files:

      http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

      * Good luck - nobody here or elsewhere, ever has...

      APK

      P.S.=> Also, when YOU have managed to create by hand a better easily used GUI driven solution like mine here:

      http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

      Get back to me then (on the "12th of never" & "when the hand on the clock strikes 13", lol)...

      ... apk

    3. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The code looks something like:

      for(host in hosts) {
        if(!hostSet.contains(host.name)) {
        hostSet.add(host.name);
        }
       
      // Obtain new IP address
        system("internet.bat down");
        system("internet.bat up");
       
        APKSlashdotComments c = APK.slashdot.searchComments("(\"APK\" and not \"Android\") OR "Hosts").filterReplied();
       
        if(c.length()&gt;0) {
        APK.slashdot.markAsResponsePending(c[0]);
        system("\"c:\\Program Files\\Netscape 4 Communicator Gold\\netscape.exe\" --nodetach " + c[0].getReplyURL());
        }
      }

    4. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wasn't criticizing hosts files, idiot.

      He was saying your code is garbage.

      But you knew that, of course. You tried to change the subject because you know he's right.

      This is why your code rightfully registers as malware, and why you still cannot get work.

    5. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4 million clock cycles per line.
      Wow. You know bubble-sort isn't a suitable alg for sorting... well... anything, yes?

    6. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      What's worse is that it doesn't even work. I have it on good authority that APK uses his HOSTS method to "protect" his own PC, but that it's infected with the notorious malware apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe (advice on the severe danger it poses to PCs here.

    7. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Tried it. Good program apk. Ran ~ 2 minutes. Accurate to a fault. Thanks.

    8. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Ha ha ha ha ha. Sure.

    9. Re:Just did a TOTAL run (11 minutes)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I did what apk said speeds it up here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977 and it worked. Is there some problem?

  98. Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Finally, APK admits being inexperienced. Thank you, sir." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20, @04:52AM (#41052103)

    Ahem, ok - When you've done more, better, & earlier than this in the art & science of computing, from this small PARTIAL only list of some of my favorites I've done over time?

    Then, you can say that to me (as a peer most importantly, otherwise, you're less than that..):

    "My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873

    ----

    What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):

    "But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - Corinthians Chapter 10, Verse 10

    (And, because I got LUCKY to have been exposed to some really GREAT classmates, professors, & colleagues on the job over time as well)

    ---

    * Like I said - show us you've done more, earlier, & BETTER than I have?

    Then, you can talk that way to me... as a peer, no less but talk is cheap - actions/deeds are what counts, & where are yours?

    APK

    P.S.=> To all 'trolls' since I have such a BIG "FanClub" (lol) of them here? All I can say is "NEXT"M, especially on failing ad hominem attack attempts... lmao!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you explain what "ad hominem" means?

      You fail at explaining O(1) and fail to detect an ad hominem.

      So please, can you explain what you think ad hominem means?

    2. Re:Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      You don't know what Big O is or how to apply it here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049693 especially to overcome his rebuttal that blew you away easily.

      By attacking apk as you do failing each time instead of his points you cannot disprove in favor of custom hosts files

      http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

      You are indeed using illogical off topic ad hominem attacks. It's called "to the man" for a reason. You can't attack apk's points on hosts files benefits and try to attack him only to be floored as you were above showing us you don't even know what you're talking about to overcome his rebuttal that blew you away easily from the 1st url link above.

    3. Re:Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of replying to one single question, you post a wall of nonsense again - as an "unrelated" AC nonetheless.

      Just kill yourself, Peter. You are just dumb.

    4. Re:Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      You never said how Big O applies to apk doing a host file. You fail.

    5. Re:Show us you've done more, better, & earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      apk doing a host file

      Ewww...

  99. That's with native OS tools @ login by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It could be added to Windows task scheduler too as often as one likes using native facilities in the OS doing what I said also... always MORE than 1 way to skin a cat!

    OR

    You can use my application "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" on workstations nodes for example, & do it as often as you like really:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * Either way, works...

    APK

    P.S.=> "NEXT"... lol!

    ... apk

  100. Windows 8 can suck it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After it burned my $250 video card up while I was beta testing I will not be buying this product. I will be sticking with my Window 7/Ubuntu machine for quite some time.

  101. Hosts do things firewalls don't... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Hosts file doesnt have to be loaded into RAM?" - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    Sure, & it only takes seconds, & saves you TONS of webpage loads, by speeding up websurfing!

    Which firewalls DO NOT DO in 1 particular way:

    In hardcoded favorites of your fav. sites in the hosts files' records @ the TOP/BEGINNING, which matters, of the hosts file - speeding up IP address resolutions from host-domain names BY FAR over remote DNS calls for it for the same purpose!

    Firewalls like software firewalls cannot & don't DO that, nor do browser addons like AdBlock - period or @ least, afaik!

    (Superiority exists in hosts in that aspect alone vs. firewalls, browser addons like AdBlock, or remote DNS servers...)

    ---

    "Rejecting packets outright is more CPU intensive than trying to route to 0.0.0.0, having to do a route lookup, failing, and discarding the session? Hosts file doesnt incur I/O penalty?" - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    I/O occurs in cached RAM, fast as possible...

    (Plus, here? Initial loads & reads into RAM here are setup via redirected hosts databasepath parameter in the tcp/ip stack parameters section in the registry to a "True SSD", in a Gigabyte IRAM 4gb DDR PCI-e RamDrive card - massively faster than HardDisk seek/access too, & hence, faster loads there on that "stage of the game"...)

    ---

    "Dude, you are so far out there on this one, Im not sure you understand how quick your average firewall can drop a session compared to relying on a crappy HOSTS file redirect to 0.0.0.0" - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    Am I? See above... software firewalls can't speed you up though as hosts hardcodes do!

    (Which is FAR faster doing host-domain name resolutions calling out to a remote DNS server (which is what most folks use from their ISP/BSP), by many orders of magnitude... & reliability goes UP, vs. potentials of DNS poisoning redirection of DNS servers or them being "downed" period...)

    ---

    "When I spoke of a "centrally managed firewall", that is most emphatically not the Windows Firewall." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    I know... QUESTION:

    Did YOU create any of those?

    Or, do you merely USE them, user??

    (I created my tool myself... by hand)

    ---

    "Cisco, Sonicwall, pfSense, ipTables, take your pick, all of them are zillions of times better than Hosts:" - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    Well, like I said above - hosts compliment shortcomings in DNS (reliability of hardcoded favorites vs. downed or DNS poisoning redirected DNS servers), run in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode via the PnP IP stack in Windows, cached into RAM 1 of 2 ways, by the faulty with larger hosts files local DNS clientside cache service, OR how I do it, the local kernelmode diskcaching subsystem... fast!

    When firewalls can speed up access to sites, especially software firewalls & doing DNS resolutions? Get back to me...

    ---

    "But you know what? Keep pushing hosts files as a viable business solution, Im sure youll get lots of business doing so." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @05:46AM (#41052375)

    Sorry, not "selling anything", it's a freeware done outta "the goodness of my heart" because of the multiple good benefits hosts files give users in:

    1.) Speed/Bandwidth they pay for recovered (blocking adbanners & hardcoding favorites)

    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-in-Depth" vs. malicious content in general online (known sites-servers/hosts-domains that house malware or malicious script, trackers, banner ads (bad or good), botnet C&C server

  102. An application of "ReVeRsE-PsyChoLoGy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "suoicerP ruoY ,evoL reteP noos yrev emag eht retne ot gniog m'I kniht I ? emit trohs a hcus ni sruoy fo tsop ynam os ,reteP tseraeD ym hO" - by Anonymous Coward ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Monday August 20, @06:47AM (#41052599)

    "???"

    Uhm... Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?

    ---

    * And, you're an off-topic troll - no questions asked...SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE!

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes, it must have just have been another off-topic done nothing of significance with his life troll spewing his off-topic b.s. again & not contributing to the ongoing conversations. Oh well - No biggie!

    ("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):

    ---

    #TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)

    def reverse(s):
        try:
            trollstring = ""
            for apksays in s:
            trollstring = apksays + trollstring
        except:
            print("error/abend in reverse function")
        return trollstring

    s = ""
    print reverse(s)

    try:
      s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
      s = reverse(s)
      print(s)
    except Exception as e:
      print(e)

    ---

    ... apk

  103. An application of."ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "htuom ruoy ni kcoc s'mom ruoy htiw uoy dnatsrednu t'ndluoc i yrros m'i" - by "CrutcHy" (lol) the Clown, (1949900) ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Monday August 20, @05:02AM (#41052143)

    "???"

    Uhm... Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?

    ---

    * And, you're an off-topic troll - no questions asked...SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE!

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes, it's "CruTcHy" (lol), another off-topic done nothing of significance with his life troll spewing his off-topic b.s. again & not contributing to the ongoing conversations. Oh well - No biggie!

    ("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):

    ---

    #TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)

    def reverse(s):
        try:
            trollstring = ""
            for apksays in s:
            trollstring = apksays + trollstring
        except:
            print("error/abend in reverse function")
        return trollstring

    s = ""
    print reverse(s)

    try:
      s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
      s = reverse(s)
      print(s)
    except Exception as e:
      print(e)

    ---

    ... apk

  104. Thank-You, it is... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good application of code vs. off-topic trolls like "CruTcHy the Clown", lol...

    * And, there ya are, troll...

    (QUESTION - can you EVER get on topic? For once??)

    APK

    P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk

    1. Re:Thank-You, it is... apk by crutchy · · Score: 2

      def reverse(s):
      try:
      trollstring = ""
      for apksays in s:
      trollstring = apksays + trollstring
      except:
      print("error/abend in reverse function")
      return trollstring
      s = ""
      print reverse(s)
      try:
      s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
      s = reverse(s)
      print(s)
      except Exception as e:
      print(e)

      ParseError: bad input on line5

      http://mathcs.holycross.edu/~kwalsh/python/

  105. Quit "projecting" already, "CruTcHy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't write that, but... sounds like you read that though & were a good study of it, practicing its points by "stalking me" here... lol!

    * Hey - I don't judge in THAT area: If that's "how you roll"? LOL, none of my business, & "to each his own"...

    However: Your "StaLkiNg" me here? I think you might be breaking laws... watch yourself, control your "StRaNgE UrGes", lol!

    (Practice "safe-sex" is all I can say in your case, projecting as you are... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> To all trolls, my usual reply on these types of off-topic trolls is "NEXT" (lmao, they never stop)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Quit "projecting" already, "CruTcHy" by crutchy · · Score: 1

      retard

  106. APK != metrix007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line above: metrix007 blew it right away by NOT "RTFA" missing the fix that works in MsSecurity Essentials/Windows Defender -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    He is, after all, the "GP" referred to in the quote you used...

    * So, in the end? Well... "Sorry to disappoint you" & blow your "game" like I did, but it's just truth... my usual effective tactic vs. ac trolls like you!

    (I.E.-> LOL, trust me - Metrix007 isn't me... lol, in fact, he has blown it 9 times now vs. myself evading the challenge you ALL are in the past (I posted a previous 1 of 8 of them in fact -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018 ))

    The 5 ac trolls who've tried to disprove my points on hosts file benefits to users, so far?

    "Insta-FAILS" vs. facts I used in response, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> The word of the day? TROY... as in DESTROY all trolls -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    Simply by PROVING they cannot disprove my points on hosts files benefits to end users of:

    ---

    1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
    2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
    3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
    4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
    5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
    6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
    7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
    8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
    9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
    10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
    11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
    12.) Faster & MORE EFFICIENT operation vs. browser plugins (which "layer on" ontop of Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode browsers - whereas the hosts file operates @ the Ring 0/RPL 0/Kernelmode of operation (far faster) as a filter for the IP stack itself...)
    13.) Blocking out TRACKERS
    14.) Custom hosts files work on ANY & ALL webbound apps (browser plugins do not).
    15.) Custom hosts files offer a better, faster, more efficient way, & safer way to surf the web & are COMPLETELY controlled by the end-user of them.

    ---

    For better speed/bandwidth they pay for, better "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" vs. malicious exploits online of varying kinds, better reliability vs. DNS-poisoned DNS servers, better anonymity to an extent vs. DNS Request logs, more - shown above...

    ... apk

    1. Re:APK != metrix007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy God, you missed the joke and wrote all that? Seriously?

      (I predict you'll probably post a reply to this comment too, that'll also completely miss the point...)

  107. metrix007 blew it right off the bat (RTFA) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a demise of the hosts file - metrix missed the fix:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    ---

    "It's not a "demise" by the by - MS Sec Essentials is the KEY "workaround"" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @04:45PM (#41048263)

    FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    Myself replying to him... metrix007's blown the challenge I put to you all here as well, 9 times including today here, lol... example from the past I posted (just 1 of 8):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018

    I.E.-> Where metrix007 RAN from disproving my points in favor of hosts files for end users gain in security, speed/bandwidth, efficiency, reliability, & even anonymity to some extent (vs. DNSBL's) & more in the past like he has here today, yet again, lol!

    "Gosh - just like he has here", same story, evasions & ac trolling afterwards, after he has "egg on his face", again!

    ---

    Seems NONE of you can face this challenge & disprove my points on hosts files in fact:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    LMAO, I love it... thanks for making ME, look GOOD, & yourselves as ac trolls? Well - "not so good"!

    ---

    * You, like metrix007, need to "RTFA"... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ac trolls - they never stop, & never FAIL to FAIL, lol... they are a devoted fanclub of mine though, lol!

    ... apk

  108. have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    minus a license in psychiatric science + formal exam from you he's correct asserting you're a libelous troll.

    1. Re:have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He" is not correct at all. Libel does not work that way.

    2. Re:have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Untruthful statements to defame someone in writing's libel http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051267

    3. Re:have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're not untruthful. Alexander Peter Kowalski constantly proves those statements to be correct.

      Furthermore, these statements cannot "defame" Alexander Peter Kowalski the fraud and malware author, because he was already known as such to begin with. The statements I make about him are merely succinct recaps of what everyone already who has contact with him already knows.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski has continued to prove these statements correct, and will now do so again.

    4. Re:have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      apk proved them incorrect on CA here disproving libel http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339 and showed that others like Nir Sofer and even Dr. Russinovich at MS have had their names smeared as malware falsely over time too.

    5. Re:have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, "he" did not.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi uses sockpuppets to try to create the illusion that other people believe his fraudulent claims, and does so without success.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi uses clumsy and inept implied threats to attempt to silence his critics.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi continues to prove the above statements correct, and will now do so again.

  109. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You need it -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055315

    * That's the BIGGEST JOKE of all, in how metrix007 the original poster BLEW IT right outta the gate with his trolling b.s.!

    (LMAO - By of ALL things, NOT READING THE SOURCE ARTICLE -> http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/you-cant-block-facebook-using-windows-8s-hosts-file/ and the fix that works there, already...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, that's funny &, of course, you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style" vs. you ac trolls:

    This? Well... you know: This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2eZ'", & fails like metrix007's, for the 9th time vs. myself now in his being unable to disprove my points on hosts files, like all my other naysayers here over time?

    UTTERLY hilarious -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    ... apk

    1. Re:"Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This response is being posted because you clearly didn't understand the last two comments, and I want you to waste more time putting together a long-ass response that has nothing to do with anything whatsoever.

      Incidentally, I was running an anti-malware tool on my PC and it found I had something called apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe installed which is apparently dangerous malware according to a ton of websites. Someone with your PC experience might know: can you tell me how to remove it?

      I was hoping this would contain advice, but I couldn't find anything.

  110. Boagreus/metrix007 - just for you (again)... lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4 & of course from me lol, A Killeus, son of Peleus (invincible & invulnerable - as I stand before all of "trolldom", lol, here on /.)!

    Especially since YOU "went down" just like Boagreus... lol, instantly due to your not reading the source article, on this very topic from it vs. your ERRONEOUS FAIL, lol:

    ---

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "Update: Tom just pointed out that turning off Windows Defender, which basically is Microsoft Security Essentials, in Windows 8 will resolve the issue. " FROM -> http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/you-cant-block-facebook-using-windows-8s-hosts-file/ , the source article for this topic, today... lol!

    ---

    So, now WHAT was that you said again? Oh yea:

    "How will APK stay relevant with the demise of the hosts file in Windows 8? Stay tuned...." - by metrix007 (200091) on Sunday August 19, @04:24PM (#41048097)

    You FAIL, troll - see above... & modding down my original of pointing your FAIL out? Ineffective & effete... I won't ALLOW it!

    "Yea, though I walk thru the VALLEY OF THE TROLLS, I shall fear no evil trolls: For thou art with me" as THE LORD OF HOSTS -> FROM http://www.rzim.org/slice/slicearticleprint.aspx?aid=8423

    ---

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power."

    Of which custom hosts files are a part in doing this in its entirety (which of course, I authored YEARS before there really was a PC security industry/field as there is now) which works when followed to-the-letter based on industry security "best practices" & beyond:

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    First of its kind... to date, I haven't found one older online and it really does work via "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" principles, the best thing we have going today in the online world of malicious code exploits...

    metrix007 - or, lmao, should I say, "Boagreus"?

    9x now & you can't disprove my points on hosts files benefits to end users... neither can anyone here in "trolldom" @ /. either!

    APK

    P.S.=> I love it... thanks for making ME, look good, & YOU TROLLS by way of comparison? "Not so good"... lmao!...

    ... apk

  111. Not just Windows 8... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm using MSSE 4.0.1526.0 with definition 1.31.2371.0. Just added 127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net to my host file and got a popup saying that it was cleaning my system. Here's the link to the issue its having..

    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=SettingsModifier%3aWin32%2fPossibleHostsFileHijack&threatid=14994

    The problem is that MSSE/Windows Defender hasn't been made smart enough to know what 127.0.0.1 should be an allowable entry and isn't a hijack. Rather than actually tell MS about it, people instantly thought it was a conspiracy.

  112. Hilariously apt funny effective reply by apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    By analogy vs metrix007 the original troll poster here who failed badly http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913

  113. Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    From my +5 Upward Modded post on Computer Associates, above (CA's the source of that libel of myself):

    ---

    CA's disreputable - See their "ethics" in accounting practices which they got busted for:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."

    FROM -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml

    REAL CRIMINALS no less... as well as anyone associated with them, like Thor SCHMUCK who submitted my app (& it's not even scriptable, I saw THAT coming is why for abusers of others apps, examples exist below from some "famous" folks in the art & science of computing too that it's happened to, like myself, in "false positives")

    CA's "security suite" too, in the end?

    SOLD OFF, lol

    (Yes - Served 'em right, they failed...)

    Plus - I passed every one of their 21 point test for removal too - they should have REMOVED it, but, instead, downgraded it to ZERO THREAT LEVELS!

    (It happens... they screwed up totally though, & I used their OWN RULES to do them in too, I love it.)

    APK

    P.S.=> CA also listed a freeware of mine as a "malware", falsely, which was written to help out a fellow forums person I knew at NTCompatible years ago, because he had an OLD version of Apache server on Windows which would not run as a tooltray icon while minimized & it was not implemented as a service he told me (that was so it was not visible onscreen and ran "in the background transparently" which most webservers now, do).

    So, in good faith/being a "good neighbor", I wrote it up for he (it's NOT commandline argv/argc parameterizeable either, so it's NOT scriptable) in GUI form (only 2-3 lines of code & works via C/C++ type invisible "spawn" type parameterizations).

    Next thing I know?

    It's out online being classed as a "malware" (1 of around 40 freeware apps I've done over time that did VERY well & were featured in respected publications in good reviews in reputable & respected publications like "Windows IT Pro" Magazine (it was Windows NT Mag back then in the 1990's - early 21st century) & others of like ilk).

    Apps that can be used "both ways" get 'victimized' this way (which is like PING via "ping of death")...

    EXAMPLES OF OTHER SOFTWARE AUTHORS GETTING THE SAME FALSE POSITIVE ABUSE BY COMPANIES:

    ---

    Tools from NIRSOFT (good stuff) who also gets a "bad rap" from the likes of CA!

    OR

    SysInternals even too (yes, even Dr. Mark Russinovich has had this happen to he (e.g. pstools) as it has myself & Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT) have tools that can be used "for the good" or "the bad", depending on WHO is using them & what they're up to (like a gun, guns don't murder people - other people do)).

    ---

    So, then I took CA's 21 point removal test & passed EVERY SINGLE QUESTION without fail no less, & they would not remove it (but, they had to put it down to "Zero Threat Levels")...

    I did that on the advice of an attorney (John Lowe of Hiscock & Barclay).

    Afterwards when I told the attorney these results, he told me "Yes, you have a WINNING CAS

  114. Response to security threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see this HOSTS debacle as a response to sites and downloads claiming to provide "clean" hosts files, they ask users to "download their .zip, run their program and find a miracle cure to unwanted tracking." Which is a great setup for those wanting to redirect DNS entries to phishing sites. -- not a secure solution.

    This also takes aim at any potential browser addon's that attempt to mod the HOSTS file.

    Don't like it, then you're not an average user. Add the hosts file to the windows defender exceptions list as the article points out.
    Anyone modding their hosts file isn't just a typical user, adding an exception shouldn't be a chore.

    The point isn't that Microsoft is giving a free pass to Facebook or an ad tracking site, at issue is that Advertisers, Trackers and their ilk have been ahead of laws, regulations even internet taskforce groups and have creating privacy and security issues since AOL bought the NSF servers.

  115. Easy to do (learn your networking) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049013

    &/or this method:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054663

    APK

    P.S.=> I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!

    OR

    Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically

    OR

    Using this app I wrote for hosts file mgt. via an easy to use GUI that's BOTH 32 & 64-bit code -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Each way works, & mine? GUI easy for end users no less... apk

  116. Disable DNS client service and install diff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    different DNS client service. problem solved. You freetards can probably figure out how to run any of your favorite DNS clients in the background as a service.

    Also, I recommend MyCleanPC rather than maintaining a custom hosts file. This is what I use on my GameMaker box, and I never have any issues.

    Also, this "workaround" is no more cumbersome than many of the hoops you have to just through just to get simple shit to work on Linux.

  117. Time to disprove your b.s. ... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Read that first -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41057323

    * Then, disprove my points on the advantages custom hosts files yield here in the next link (good luck, you'll NEED it, since nobody here has ever disproven those points for YEARS now):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ---

    * There you go, learn by it...

    APK

    P.S.=> IF you're an IT manager? I think you need to learn a few things on that which you speak of... apk

  118. THIS "neuters that" easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By updating the hosts file from a PRISTINE fresh import (from a CENTRAL location on a LAN/WAN too, via these methosd) of blocking data vs. malware & malicious content, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers, phishing/spamming sources, trackers, adbanners & more, as often as you like:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    There's other methods also, via native to OS tools for network-wide propogation of fresh clean updated hosts files that program yields IF you only installed it on a "central server" for clean hosts for all nodes/workstations/servers:

    I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!

    OR

    Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically

    APK

    P.S.=> There you go... it all works, GUI easily from my app, all the way out to any endpoint PC/Server on a LAN/WAN even... often as you like & CLEAN/FRESH too! apk

  119. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Schrock, not "Schmuck". Calling him "Thor Schmuck" makes you look like a 45 year old virgin still living in his mother's bas.... never mind.

  120. Well my friend, there IS this though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Using it on networks? Cake!

    ---

    A.) Install & run it

    B.) Do updating the hosts file from a PRISTINE fresh import (to a CENTRAL location on a LAN/WAN too, via these methods) of blocking data vs. malware & malicious content, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers, phishing/spamming sources, trackers, adbanners & more, as often as you like:

    C.) Then, lastly - On said network via native to OS tools for network-wide propogation of fresh clean updated hosts files that program yields IF you only installed it on a "central server" for clean hosts for all nodes/workstations/servers:

    I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!

    OR

    Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically

    OR of course, using this app on workstation/server endpoints locally as well as a possible.

    (Take your pick!)

    ---

    Below - I list a TON of DNS faults below, you know of them from it, and hosts actually COMPLIMENT & OVERCOME them

    ---

    1.) Power usage on DNS software on same system OR especially separate machines

    2.) Host-domain resolves being faster than calling out to remote DNS servers for hardcoded favorites (hdd or ssd access/seek is far faster locally too)

    3.) No separate "layered on" added stuff over the IP stack IN Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode like firewalls or DNS programs do, since hosts are only a FILTER for the IP stack & good layered security/defense in depth!

    4.) No separate "layered on" added stuff over the browser addons like AdBlock or even IE TPL's IN Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode like adblock, since hosts are only a FILTER for the IP stack & good layered security/defense in depth!

    5.) Reliability vs. recursive DNS servers setups in faults driven by DNS poisoning attacks (hardcodes of hosts file records of your favorite sites do that).

    ---

    ( & more... FAR more, see below - it compliments & overcomes issues in firewalls, adblock, DNS servers + works with them, transparently/seamlessly/smoothly @ the MOST efficient layer possible - the IP stack itself!)

    The speedup part hardcoding in favorites (which also aids reliability) is there too!

    Simply by blocking out ad banners (which you KNOW have been infested more than a few times the past few years, partial list's below, & also CPU, RAM, & other forms of I/O killers as well as screen realestate stealers, etc. & more... see next list):

    I.E.-> Custom hosts files gain me the following benefits (A short summary of where custom hosts files can be extremely useful):

    ---

    1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
    2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
    3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
    4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
    5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
    6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
    7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
    8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
    9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
    10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
    11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
    12.) Faster & MORE

  121. Agreed, & not agreed (how/when/where/why) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You want to read this:

    "Hosts was never meant to be used for blocking sites, but it works well enough as a consequence and the behaviour should be left alone. Whatever the user puts in there, should work as intended. I don't fucking CARE that it's used for malware. Fight malware in other ways." - by TheRealGrogan (1660825) on Sunday August 19, @11:45PM (#41050749)

    First - PLEASE READ THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY you MAY find it "enlightening" as to the value of custom hosts files - get back to me, especially IF you can disprove any of its points:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    Then?

    See this app I wrote in both 32-bit & 64-bit form

    (Since it can also be used to create a CENTRALLY LOCATED PRISTINE & CLEAN FRESH custom hosts file FOR PROPOGATION ACROSS A NETWORK EVEN, easily, via GpEdit, taskscheduler, or other native tools to the OS, in this case, Windows):

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    How/When/Where/How/Why per my subject-line above on LAN/WAN environs even for these gains - I.E.-> Custom hosts files gain me the following benefits (A short summary of where custom hosts files can be extremely useful):

    ---

    1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
    2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
    3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
    4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
    5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
    6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
    7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
    8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
    9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
    10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
    11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
    12.) Faster & MORE EFFICIENT operation vs. browser plugins (which "layer on" ontop of Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode browsers - whereas the hosts file operates @ the Ring 0/RPL 0/Kernelmode of operation (far faster) as a filter for the IP stack itself...)
    13.) Blocking out TRACKERS
    14.) Custom hosts files work on ANY & ALL webbound apps (browser plugins do not).
    15.) Custom hosts files offer a better, faster, more efficient way, & safer way to surf the web & are COMPLETELY controlled by the end-user of them.

    ---

    As I noted earlier - also using it on networks? Cake!

    ---

    A.) Install & run it

    B.) Do updating the hosts file from a PRISTINE fresh import (to a CENTRAL location on a LAN/WAN too, via these methods) of blocking data vs. malware & malicious content, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers, phishing/spamming sources, trackers, adbanners & more, as often as you like:

    C.) Then, lastly - On said network via native to OS tools for network-wide propogation of fresh clean updated hosts files that program yields IF you only installed it on a "central server" for clean hosts for all nodes/workstations/servers:

    I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!

    OR

    Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically

    OR of course,

  122. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    your b.s. didn't make what apk wrote less truthful http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

  123. typo in summary by maestroX · · Score: 1

    The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains, such as adobe-serving websites.

  124. apk is a python noob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gotcha. you suck at python. so what ?

  125. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My advice didn't make what he'd already written any more accurate either. It was crap before I advised him to lay off the "Schmuck" nonsense, and given it can't be edited, it remains crap today.

    You do realize I was making a joke about a horror urban legend originally, right?

  126. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  127. Taking GREAT pleasure in dismantling you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "First, if you are doing your web filtering on the workstation, you are doing it badly, badly wrong." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Sunday August 19, @06:07PM (#41048843)

    You're dumb then - "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" is the BEST THING WE HAVE GOING vs. the online mess with malware in general out there... period!

    (That's a fundamentally KNOWN thing stupid... & IF you aren't protecting @ THE ENDPOINTS like workstations wioth as much as you can, including custom hosts as yet another layer of defense? You're dumb - period!)

    ---

    "Third, there are about a zillion better ways to accomplish blocking than using a HOSTS file." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Sunday August 19, @06:07PM (#41048843)

    Oh, really? Like what?? DNS??? Tons of FAULTS in it, see here (32 of them I listed, & there are more, that's only partial):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    Care to disprove all of its points in favor of custom hosts files for not only layered security, but also speed gains on 2 levels, reliability vs. DNS shortcomings, & those of AdBlock too & more?

    GO FOR IT - I'll tear you in 1/2 easily...

    ---

    "Its basically a kludge from bygone days before DNS, and for 99% of use cases where you might think "I can use a HOSTS file for that", there are far better methods-- or else the thing you are trying to do is retarded." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Sunday August 19, @06:07PM (#41048843)

    See above - you're apparently telling people that securing @ network endpoints like workstations is dumb... you're DUMB if you believe that stupid!

    ---

    "Second, HOSTS is not somethin that is easily maintained or modified." - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Sunday August 19, @06:07PM (#41048843)

    WTF? Are you stupid or what??

    See these methods you wannabe stooge:

    ---

    GpEdit group policies allow:

    1.) Parsing of autoexec

    2.) Paring & using a logon script

    BOTH can copy over a FRESH clean copy of a hosts file for layered security protection vs known online threats!

    (Also giving a user more speed, reliability vs. DNS poisoning via hardcodes of favorite, above & beyond blocking adbanners that have been SHOWN to house malicious content many times and slow you down otherwise eating up power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O also).

    3.) You could also setup taskscheduler to do the same periodically copying from a central location on a network for clean new fresh updated custom hosts files.

    4.) Creating them & putting new fresh clean updated hosts files in a central LAN or WAN location for purposes of the above?

    GUI Easy (both in 32-bit & 64-bit form by YOURS truly):

    For those of you that run Microsoft Windows 32 or 64 bit? An automated hosts file creation & mgt. program:

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:

    Screenshot -> http://start64.com/images/win64/security/apk-hosts-file-engine-1.png

    &

    Download Site #1 -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    or

    Download Site #2 -> http://securemecca.com/public/APKHostsFileInstaller/2012_06_01/APKHostsFileEngineInstaller32_64bit.exe.zip

    ---

    INSTALLATION:

    1. Re:Taking GREAT pleasure in dismantling you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GO FOR IT - I'll tear you in 1/2 easily...

      lol! don't kid yourself, you're not 'tearing anyone in 1/2' you pimple-faced sissy bitch

    2. Re:Taking GREAT pleasure in dismantling you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow.
      you so clever.
      did you invent the internet?
      what gave you the idea for that?

  128. YOU have been dismantled with EASE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    APK

    P.S.=> Meet me there & do your rebuttal attempts which I will tear in 1/2 & YOU troll, along with them... see you there, & IF you don't show up? I've proven my point here now... apk

  129. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  130. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with it, troll)... apk

  131. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with it, troll)... apk

  132. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with it, troll)... apk

  133. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  134. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  135. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  136. You've been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  137. Python's WEAK compared to C/C++ & Delphi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Try THIS on for size, since it's ALL about the topic @ hand (I program in LITERALLY around a dozen languages by the by... do you?):

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * When an ac trolling nobody like YOU (lol) can manage to show me he's put out a GUI program like that, that has no runtime lib dependencies & folks in the security community are hosting it for you? Get back to us then... talker!

    (I used Python & learned it, literally, in about 2-3 days time to help my nephew put in errtrapping, multithreaded design, & some niceties in its "commandline interface" - but, do I *think* it's better or more capable than the languages in my subject-line above? Hell no... lol, no way!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, when YOU can show us you've done MORE, better, & EARLIER than I have in the art & science of computing than I did in this ONLY PARTIAL list of my favorites:

    "My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873

    AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class where I got other programmer's work WORKING RIGHT (in PyThon no less, which I

  138. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", 'CruTcHy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  139. Old news by jowifi · · Score: 1

    This has apparently been known about a for while in some developer communities. The first result in a Bing search for "windows 8 hosts file" returns a MSDN post from Sept 2011 identifying the problem.

  140. You have been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  141. You have been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  142. You have been dismantled... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    * Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!

    (Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with them, troll) ... apk

  143. hosts is a firewall rule by tepples · · Score: 1

    a niche of geeks who seem to think it somehow superior to firewall rules

    An entry in a hosts file is a firewall rule. The advantage of a hosts file is that one doesn't need to install extra firewall software. And even if you do install external software, it can still use the widely understood input format of a hosts file.

    or adblock lists

    Adblock is fine for your web browser, but what can you use to block access from applications other than a web browser? You need a firewall, and one that operates at the DNS level is built into your operating system: the hosts file.

    DEY

  144. Version control by tepples · · Score: 1

    reimaging a dev laptop for a DNS change sounds like an enormously bad idea ("where did all my source code go?")

    All you need to do is check it out again, you silly git.

    1. Re:Version control by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Well played.

  145. The like button by tepples · · Score: 1

    I don't have a Facebook account; I graduated and lost my .edu address before Facebook even existed. And I don't want Facebook's like button code to slow page loads while building a dossier on me any more than it already has. Other than using a hosts file or installing a DNS server on localhost, what do you recommend for blocking web sites from loading the like button?

    1. Re:The like button by vux984 · · Score: 1

      I don't have one either, and probably despise facebook even more than you.

      For blocking facebook, it doesn't get much simpler than a dedicated plugin like: (although I haven't used it myself)
      http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/

      Adding a custom filter rule or two to a more generic plug in like adblock pro or any of several site blockers is another option.

      And for blocking in general system-wide, a suitable firewall and/or a filtering proxy server.

    2. Re:The like button by tepples · · Score: 1

      For blocking facebook, it doesn't get much simpler than a dedicated plugin

      ...which doesn't list any support for Internet Explorer or applications that embed Internet Explorer.

      And for blocking in general system-wide, a suitable firewall and/or a filtering proxy server.

      The advantage of a hosts file is that it acts as a system-wide DNS filter no matter what application embeds a browser component, and it doesn't require researching and installing a third-party firewall. Or has Microsoft already begun to include such "a suitable firewall" with Windows?

      DEY

    3. Re:The like button by vux984 · · Score: 1

      ...which doesn't list any support for Internet Explorer

      So don't use internet explorer. If you can figure out how to edit your hosts file you can figure out how to use an an alternate browser.

      or applications that embed Internet Explorer.

      Who browses the web from the cheque layout editor in their accounting software?

      You are right, of course, and my example was a bit tongue in cheek, but while I use several apps that embed IE for help, documention, etc... I've never had any cause to use any of them to browse the web. I'm not convinced its a legitimate issue.

      The advantage of a hosts file is that it acts as a system-wide DNS filter no matter what application embeds a browser component,

      Agreed. But if you want a DNS filter - get a dns filter. Using hosts to manually block hosts one at a time by redirecting the queries back to your own system is about the clumsiest way of doing it.

      A proper dns filter has logging (so you can see what's going on, filters with wildcards so you don't need www.facebook.com, facebook.com, login.facebook.com, and anything else they might add in the future)

      and it doesn't require researching and installing a third-party firewall.

      Right, it requires researching and editing a text file deep within the windows folder.

      So ... you rejected the option of running an alternative browser (you said "but it doesn't work in Internet Explorer") and at the same time you embrace editting the hosts file. Exactly what sort of user is this? One that can't download firefox, but can edit the hosts file??

      Or has Microsoft already begun to include such "a suitable firewall" with Windows?

      It is actually very easy to add a custom blocking rule to the facebook ip addresses. But that is not a DNS filter.

  146. Media production appliance by tepples · · Score: 1

    So what will people use as a media production appliance?

  147. idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only reason people are crying is they can't block their pirated version of Adobe from activating. That's all host files are used for now days.

    1. Re:idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually do use a host file for a couple legitimate things. Well, one legitimate, one semi-legitimate. The legitimate thing is to map my personal server's url to its private ip when I'm home, because my router doesn't support looping back. The semi-legitimate thing is to get around work site-blocking. :p

  148. Outbound rules by tepples · · Score: 1

    use a firewall

    Hosts is a DNS-level firewall already built into your operating system.

    Set a bunch of outbound rules to block certain address

    Which works until the hostname starts pointing at a different IP address. Round-robin DNS tends to do this. A hosts file, on the other hand, maps all requests associated with a given hostname to an invalid address. It acts in effect as a hostname-based outbound rule set.

    DEY

  149. LordLimecat & armchair admins... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat calls folks "armchair admins" & blows it on group policies, lol:

    "and most people on slashdot utilizing HOSTS are armchair IT admins who have no idea how networking works" - by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @11:56AM (#41055533)

    FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055533

    (In his saying they don't know how networking works quoted above from yesterday)

    Well - LordLimecat surely showed HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW NETWORKING WORKS by not knowing how to use Group Policies to parse AutoExec &/or Logon Scripts:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    and here too:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049013

    * Fact is - I had to point it out to you, and YES, I USE HOSTS FILES - & not just once, but twice... you "armchair admin" (IF you even rate THAT!)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Funny that, eh? How "the great admin" (not) LordLimecat had to be "schooled" by a hosts file user/armchair admin like me, hmmm?? Not...

    LordLimecat's an "armchair admin" - not even that: He's a b.s. artist that talks big, but when the chips were on the table, he projected & revealed HIS TRUE COLORS - he's no admin himself!

    ... apk

  150. Too late, APK did already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK tore LordLimecat in 1/2 here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  151. LordLimecat got played: He played himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Calling hosts users armchair admins but blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 LordLimecat never showed up here to face the music like apk challenged him to, so apk did it there on the fact about group policy tool gpedit can be used to parse autoexec or logon scripts and there's task scheduler too that can be used to update a common hosts file across a lan/wan. Served LordLimecat right.

  152. What's this about "cocksucking douche"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    PERTINENT QUOTE FROM Cbiltcliffe:

    "You're a cocksucking douche. Yes, that sounds like flamebait. It's not. It's the truth." - by cbiltcliffe (186293) on Sunday July 03 2011, @09:36AM (#36646308) Homepage Journal

    From -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36646308

    * Pot calling the kettle black now, are we?

    APK

    P.S.=> What's that about hurling insults, cbiltcliffe? apk

    1. Re:What's this about "cocksucking douche"? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      That comment wasn't a "random, flailing, insult-hurling rant."

      It was quite directed, and to the point. It was also true.

      This tirade of yours, on the other hand:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051235
      was random, flailing, and somewhat nonsensical.

      I can only think the fact that you immediately jump in to any thread even remotely mentioning "APK" with huge, rambling tomes of crap spouting about how superior you are to virtually everyone in the entire history of computer technology, means that you are, in fact, deeply insecure, unsure of yourself, and require validation from others to improve your pitiful view of yourself, so use a massive, over the top superiority complex to attempt to do this.

      I'm pretty sure a few counselling sessions would help you with that, unless, of course, you attempt to prove how much better you are than the counsellor, and they end up kicking you out for being....well....yourself.

      And if counselling doesn't work, then there's always SIG.....

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
  153. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  154. 2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Say QUITE otherwise:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - A Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com

    ---

    * My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites... & in 1 case, complimented as excellent (by email).

    APK

    P.S.=> Like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE (which actually exists in easy-to-use GUI form -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 ) ?

    ... apk

    1. Re:2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My ability to criticize your code does not depend on what I have written, any more than I have to direct a movie to point out that Uwe Boll is a shitty director. You yourself stated the performance metrics that prove it is terrible. You are the Uwe Boll of software, except you can't even fall back on the ability to beat up your critics.

    2. Re:2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Anyone can be a critic, takes quite a lot more, to be a chef.

    3. Re:2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In any analogy where programmers are chefs, Alexander Peter Kowalski is the kid at McDonald's who gets fired for constantly letting the fries burn as he stares slackjawed at the female employees. Then he spends the next fifteen years bragging about the one halfway-decent batch he managed to avoid screwing up on his first day.

    4. Re:2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Once again to Mr. Not Chef: Anyone can be a critic, it's quite another thing, to be a chef.

    5. Re:2 members of the security community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Repeating yourself will not make the counterpoint go away. Attacking the concept of criticism is only ever done because one knows that the criticism being leveled against them is completely valid.

      You are not a "chef", you are an unemployable ex-fry-cook, and it doesn't take a "chef" to point that out.

      Also, I am a "chef". And no, I don't have to produce what I've written, and yes, that IS what you were going to say.

      Everything I said about you would be absolutely correct even if I was a janitor.

  155. Eat your words (opinions of security community) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066353

    * Yes, it's THAT simple for me to "trash you", troll...

    APK

    P.S.=> Mine's out there working for others, in easy-to-use GUI form, and with NO runtime lib dependencies (other than std. API libs)... where's yours, hmmm? It's not - you're ALL TALK, nothing more, troll - you know it, I KNOW IT, & now? Everyone can see it & knows it also... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Eat your words (opinions of security community) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I found it didn't work unless I had Netscape 4 installed. Which was weird.

      Also while I already had this DLL installed, VBRUN300.DLL seems to be locked (in use) by the tool.

  156. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" ac troll: LMAO! apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    All the downmods in the world can't hide this -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41050701 & you SAID it, not I...

    * LMAO - Told you YOU WISH YOU WERE ME... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Too easy... apk

  157. Why's APK downmodded? He's correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  158. Why's APK downmodded? He's correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  159. Downmods to hide YOU'RE a Quack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  160. Downmods hiding you BLEW IT, LordLimecat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 and here too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location - AND, if you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too...

    (Of course, there's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too-> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 )

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do, since face 1 simple fact: Admins/techs? They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  161. GP metrix007 blew it and disappeared (lmao) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  162. Correct (like APK is, & metrix007? Not!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK's on topic & correct: metrix007? Not so correct http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913

  163. Question on the table now is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Do YOU understand Big O vs. APK's reply (& you downmodded to hide it) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049693

  164. DNS's loaded w\ bugs, wastes power & more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  165. For a "false programmer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK's done a lot (while you were still in diapers) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048363 - so what have YOU done by way of comparison, troll? Zero... lol!

  166. Jay Little "the self-proclaimed Exchange Expert"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LMAO - I blew him away on THAT very statement -> http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/internals-and-architecture/the-memory-optimization-hoax search "Jay Little" on that page...

    (In fact? All of arstechnica's big trolls in Jeremy Reimer especially by impersonating others & being caught in that, email harassment, & both Little + Reimer had their websites removed for libel from their hosting providers, CrystalTech & Shaw, respectively) massively FAILED vs. myself... bigtime!)

    Heck. Even Dr. Mark Russinovich a former "co-worker" of mine @ sunbelt selling our wares (mine outsold his in fact), whom I corrected his work in pagedefrag.exe hardcodes JUST before that article came out?

    He couldn't dispute that memory optimizers unstall halted Exchange Servers, Terminal Servers, Databases & more + I told them all "VISTA WILL FAIL DOING OVER AGGRESSIVE CACHINGS" &, it did... MS had to lessen it in a patch!.

    So much for PhD's, eh, as well as "self-proclaimed" exchange experts, like Jay Little (beating HIM on HIS OWN BALLCOURT? Priceless...)

    Little & Reimer later brought in a doctoral candidate student who posts here named StarKruzr (Jarrett DeAngelis) whom I busted LYING not admitting that's his real name (I had ways of determining that, which are a LOT like how I post here as much as I want, lol), & he?

    * He ENDED UP AGREEING WITH A GOOD 99% of what I said there... eat that, trolls!

    APK

    P.S.=> When will you trolling ac fools ever learn you just are NOT IN MY LEAGUE, & never will be... hmmm?

    ... apk

  167. Challenge STILL stands (strong)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Right here (no ac trolls can disprove it's points? LMAO!): http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * All the downmods in the WORLD can't hide it now, can they, boys?

    Nope!

    Now... you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

    This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?? from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol, & not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat) or reading comprehension)... apk

  168. Yes, I practically "wrote the book" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The 1st real guide for that & it really works -> http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    To "immunize" a Windows system, I effectively use the principles in "layered security" possibles!

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&form=QBRE

    I.E./E.G.-> I have done so since 1997-1998 with the most viewed, highly rated guide online for Windows security there really is which came from the fact I also created the 1st guide for securing Windows, highly rated @ NEOWIN (as far back as 1998-2001) here:

    http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text

    & from as far back as 1997 -> http://web.archive.org/web/20020205091023/www.ntcompatible.com/article1.shtml which Neowin above picked up on & rated very highly.

    (I HAVEN'T FOUND AN OLDER (or better) ONE YET ONLINE TO DATE EITHER...)

    That has evolved more currently, into the MOST viewed & highly rated one there is for years now since 2008 online in the 1st URL link above...

    Which has well over 500,000++ views online (actually MORE, but 1 site with 75,000 views of it went offline/out-of-business) & it's been made either:

    ---

    1.) An Essential Guide
    2.) 5-5 star rated
    3.) A "sticky-pinned" thread
    4.) Most viewed in the category it's in (usually security)
    5.) Got me PAID by winning a contest @ PCPitStop (quite unexpectedly - I was only posting it for the good of all, & yes, "the Lord works in mysterious ways", it even got me PAID -> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2007/09/04/pc-pitstop-winners/ (see January 2008))

    ---

    Across 15-20 or so sites I posted it on back in 2008... & here is the IMPORTANT part, in some sample testimonials to the "layered security" methodology efficacy:

    ---

    SOME QUOTED TESTIMONIALS TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF SAID LAYERED SECURITY GUIDE I AUTHORED:

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

    "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't

  169. Disprove my points on hosts then Xest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048493

    * Face facts (in that link above which houses my points on hosts files): You'll NEVER be able to do it, hence your off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attack attempts on myself, RATHER THAN MY POINTS ON HOSTS FILES... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Go for it "big talker" BEHIND MY BACK, like the weasel troll you are no less... apk

  170. you failed vs. apk though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You made a very rookie noob admin error on gpedit http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

  171. You failed badly vs. apk though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Making your rookie noob error overlooking gpedit abilities http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

  172. Disprove my points on custom hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You can't -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * Fact is? Nobody EVER does or can (they're invulnerable to attack, too well thought-out & just truth - what desTROYs trolls, everytime - lmao!)...

    THE WORD OF THE DAY, IS "TROY", as in desTROY all ac trolls or otherwise, who run from disproving my points on custom hosts files usefulness to end-users of them in better:

    ---

    1.) Speed/Bandwdth they pay for (which adbanners rob from them & by using hardcoded favorites, faster than DNS)
    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-In-Depth" - which hosts give you vs. malicious exploits online (by blocking infested ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers malware makers use, spam & phishing sources, hosts-domains KNOWN to serve up malicious code or malware + more)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or DNS-poisoned/redirected DNS servers)
    4.) Anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS Request logs)

    ---

    & FAR MORE...

    APK

    P.S.=> P.S.=> Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - from -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol!

    Funniest part is, not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now via downmods (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 ) or reading comprehension (metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 )... apk

  173. I did love it: Here's why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    First - nobody here can ever disprove my points on custom hosts file benefits -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * Fact is? Nobody EVER does or can (they're invulnerable to attack, too well thought-out & just truth - what desTROYs trolls, everytime - lmao!)...

    THE WORD OF THE DAY, IS "TROY", as in desTROY all ac trolls or otherwise, who run from disproving my points on custom hosts files usefulness to end-users of them in better:

    ---

    1.) Speed/Bandwdth they pay for (which adbanners rob from them & by using hardcoded favorites, faster than DNS)
    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-In-Depth" - which hosts give you vs. malicious exploits online (by blocking infested ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers malware makers use, spam & phishing sources, hosts-domains KNOWN to serve up malicious code or malware + more)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or DNS-poisoned/redirected DNS servers)
    4.) Anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS Request logs)

    ---

    & FAR MORE...

    APK

    P.S.=> Secondly - Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - from -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol!

    Funniest part is, not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now via downmods (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 ) or reading comprehension (metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 )... apk

  174. Off-Topic failing illogical ad hominem attacks? Ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    First - nobody here can ever disprove my points on custom hosts file benefits -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * Fact is? Nobody EVER does or can (they're invulnerable to attack, too well thought-out & just truth - what desTROYs trolls, everytime - lmao!)...

    THE WORD OF THE DAY, IS "TROY", as in desTROY all ac trolls or otherwise, who run from disproving my points on custom hosts files usefulness to end-users of them in better:

    ---

    1.) Speed/Bandwdth they pay for (which adbanners rob from them & by using hardcoded favorites, faster than DNS)
    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-In-Depth" - which hosts give you vs. malicious exploits online (by blocking infested ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers malware makers use, spam & phishing sources, hosts-domains KNOWN to serve up malicious code or malware + more)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or DNS-poisoned/redirected DNS servers)
    4.) Anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS Request logs)

    ---

    & FAR MORE...

    APK

    P.S.=> Secondly - Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - from -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol!!!

    Funniest part is, not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now via downmods (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 ) or reading comprehension (metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 )... apk

  175. Disprove my points on custom hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    First - nobody here can ever disprove my points on custom hosts file benefits -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * Fact is? Nobody EVER does or can (they're invulnerable to attack, too well thought-out & just truth - what desTROYs trolls, everytime - lmao!)...

    THE WORD OF THE DAY, IS "TROY", as in desTROY all ac trolls or otherwise, who run from disproving my points on custom hosts files usefulness to end-users of them in better:

    ---

    1.) Speed/Bandwdth they pay for (which adbanners rob from them & by using hardcoded favorites, faster than DNS)
    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-In-Depth" - which hosts give you vs. malicious exploits online (by blocking infested ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers malware makers use, spam & phishing sources, hosts-domains KNOWN to serve up malicious code or malware + more)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or DNS-poisoned/redirected DNS servers)
    4.) Anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS Request logs)

    ---

    & FAR MORE...

    APK

    P.S.=> Secondly - Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - from -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol!!!!

    Funniest part is, not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now via downmods (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 ) or reading comprehension (metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 )... apk

  176. How about facing my challenge instead? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    First - nobody here can ever disprove my points on custom hosts file benefits -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * Fact is? Nobody EVER does or can (they're invulnerable to attack, too well thought-out & just truth - what desTROYs trolls, everytime - lmao!)...

    THE WORD OF THE DAY, IS "TROY", as in desTROY all ac trolls or otherwise, who run from disproving my points on custom hosts files usefulness to end-users of them in better:

    ---

    1.) Speed/Bandwdth they pay for (which adbanners rob from them & by using hardcoded favorites, faster than DNS)
    2.) "Layered-Security"/"Defense-In-Depth" - which hosts give you vs. malicious exploits online (by blocking infested ads, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers malware makers use, spam & phishing sources, hosts-domains KNOWN to serve up malicious code or malware + more)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or DNS-poisoned/redirected DNS servers)
    4.) Anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS Request logs)

    ---

    & FAR MORE...

    APK

    P.S.=> Secondly - Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best -> "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - from -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol!!!!!

    Funniest part is, not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now via downmods (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129 ) or reading comprehension (metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 )... apk

  177. desTROYing trolls on hosts, what else? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Right here, on custom hosts files benefits to users (no ac trolls can disprove it's points? LMAO!): http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    Just desTROYing trolls, 1 by 1, who *tried* & failed... badly too, see below!

    (Hilarious, especially LordLimecat)

    Examples thereof, per my subject-line? Ok:

    LordLimecat -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    With other 'ac trolls' near that, just him replying as ac since I desTROYed him... all/each (4-5 of them) FAILING, badly, lol!

    LordLimecat's calling others that use hosts files "armchair admins" in his posts here?

    Well - Funny, but the FOOL blew it on gpedit being able to copy over fresh files, even hosts, to all points of a network, & if you want MORE current copies?

    Taskscheduler, OR my app -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    CAN DO THE JOB, & it is GUI easy, & in BOTH 32-bit + 64-bit form... it can be used to CREATE the CENTRAL COPY (to distribute via the means I noted... easily! )

    &

    Even or reading comprehension:

    metrix007 right off the bat, lol -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913

    * How's THAT so far? "Yea, though I walk thru the VALLEY OF THE TROLLS @ /., I shall fear no evil, for thou art with me..., as "The Lord of HOSTS", ala this FROM http://www.rzim.org/slice/slicearticleprint.aspx?aid=8423 [rzim.org]

    ---

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power."

    Of which custom hosts files are a part in doing this in its entirety (which of course, I authored YEARS before there really was a PC security industry/field as there is now) which works when followed to-the-letter based on industry security "best practices" & beyond:

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH [bing.com]

    First of its kind... to date, I haven't found one older online and it really does work via "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" principles, the best thing we have going today in the online world of malicious code exploits...

    ---

    Anyhow/anyways? See metrix007's post link below - CONTAINS PROOF MS HAS NOT DESTROYED A THING!, there is a work-around...

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, you KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style": This? THIS was just "too, Too, TOO EASY", just '2ez'" Yes... TROY is the word of the day, as I desTROY all trolls who *try me* on this topic & others...

    Why TROY? Well, ok:

    Anyone else want to try? A Killeus, son of Peleus, said it best:

    "Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??"

    From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiLCJxpqi4

    So, I am saying it too... lol, & not a SINGLE ONE of you ac trolls can hide it now (I suspect you're ALL OUTTA MODPOINTS for downmodding my posts, lol, to "hide them" where I blew each of you away, & easily, mostly on rookie-noob errors (LordLimecat) or reading comprehension)... apk

  178. Disprove my points in favor of hosts files then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Go for it TCM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    * GOOD LUCK - you'll NEED it, since no one here ever has... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Onwards & upwards nuking the /. trolls here... easily as usual! apk

    1. Re:Disprove my points in favor of hosts files then by TCM · · Score: 1

      Sorry I don't read at -1.

      --
      Of course it runs NetBSD. BTC: 1NT7QvbetmANwaMzhpVL6
  179. You got your ass handed to you by APK noob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  180. APK did (bigtime) due to LordLimecat errors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    On gpedit & taskscheduler + more -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  181. Ever heard of gpedit.msc, TCM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Group policies? You must be LordLimecat's "sockpuppet" due to the SAME ROOKIE/NOOB error HE made regarding centralized mgt. of a custom hosts file to distribute across a LAN/WAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    APK

    P.S.=> Bunch of STUPID amateur wannabes... what happened to the SHARP people around here? I've seen @ least 50 today, here alone, that are intelligent enough to recognize the value of custom hosts files I extolled, IN DETAIL, great detail, here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048493 Which NO TROLL has managed to disprove a single detail point item in, ever - in fact? I truly INVITE anyone, including you TCM, to try disprove its points: GOOD LUCK - you will NEED it, lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Ever heard of gpedit.msc, TCM? by TCM · · Score: 1

      Sure, get your forum users to join your AD first. Call me when you've succeeded. /facepalm

      I can see why all of your posts end up at -1. Lunacy at its best.

      --
      Of course it runs NetBSD. BTC: 1NT7QvbetmANwaMzhpVL6
  182. APK handed you YOUR ASS, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Due to your rookie noob admin mistakes on gpedit and more here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  183. Wrong - it uses QUICKSORT... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    15 seconds for dedup & sort is fast over that # of records, & it's not bubblesort: It's quicksort (a variant that's faster in fact). I did it PURELY in memory too, double-buffered. I used HIGH to REALTIME cpu priority while the loop runs (& in realtime, which only running as ADMINISTRATOR can summon & get), there's NO timeslice either during realtime ops.

    Oh, & see subject-line - you're WRONG ac troll, as usual!

    ---

    Right now (but I will in next version, should cut off another 2-3 minutes with another idea I have)?

    I can't get it any faster (for now, it's 4x as fast as the last model though)... not in GUI mode!

    The "slowest stage" (9 minutes) is the "CONVERT & FILTER" stage, with GOOD REASON - it performs 11 operations of string processing nature on EVERY HOSTS FILE RECORD (leaving none untouched, & thus, NO stone unturned/checked).

    String Processing's VERY EXPENSIVE on CPU cycles, but, that's just HOW it is... no way around it.

    (My only "hassle"? One I can't avoid - GUI program message-passing overheads - & I went GUI, because the program's MEANT FOR COMMON FOLKS to use, even though the security community so far, in 2 sites, seem to like & host it...!)

    I wrote it as a character mode Object-Pascal "DOS" tty-term commandline app - 10x as fast, but not as useable...

    * Trade-offs abound, but useability for "common folks" was what I was after, & folks today (& for AGES now)? They are GUI people!

    APK

    P.S.=> Unbelievable though - a doubtless undereducated idiot's trying to tell ME, a college educated in both CSC & MIS grad who's degreed, what's-what from DataStructures class (which I loved & find useful, to this very day)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Wrong - it uses QUICKSORT... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Wat. String processing's about as fast as it gets. All you're doing's load and compare.

      How does:
      - convert all to lower case
      - remove comments
      - sort
      - remove duplicates
      - stick 0.0.0.0 on the front
      require 4,000,000 processor cycles PER LINE? Actually, i7 processors can do 4 instructions per cycle, so you're somehow using up to 16,000,000 instructions for each very short line of text.
      That's utterly shameful. You should feel bad.

  184. Re:Thor Schmuck & CA "blown away" easily... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  185. Not MS, metrix007 & LordLimecat (lmao)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 ) or LordLimecat (blew it equally bad on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "?"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    (On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007) & on networking (LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol! Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

  186. Ok: Couple tricks using my app... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1st: ONLY download the websites that are updated that day (less of an overall dataset, no need to bring what you've already go)

    2nd: DON'T DO THE CONVERT & FILTER STAGE, only the initial deduplication (15 seconds of your time).

    * Do that? You're done in under a minute, intake of data to deduplicate/sort 1st stage of the Convert & Filter tab... right click on the result report, save it, & see!

    (That way, you get TREMENDOUS SPEED, but I'd say only a 98% surety of ABSOLUTELY deduplicated, AND, fully normalized data results - but, do check it & see: I never run that way personally, the data result? It's everything, but I near guarantee absolute perfection if you take the extra 7 minutes to run full "Convert & Filter" is alll..)

    APK

    P.S.=> There you go, HOWEVER & again - I cannot guarantee the absolute pristine result of the data, oh... it gets a good 98% there, but the FULL "Convert & Filter" makes SURE of it - that's all, as a disclaimer... apk

    1. Re:Ok: Couple tricks using my app... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      What possible uncertainty can there be in a simple text processing problem?
      What circumstances could result in your data being '98% surety' after being processed? Are you saying that you have to filter your data multiple times to be sure that you've caught everything? If that's the case, then whatever algorithm you're using is clearly very, very, very broken.

  187. "The new style @ /." in "TroLL-TriCks" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Modding down truths to hide them!

    * Truth does that, with trolls, readers... lol - with trolls? Truth must NEVER be allowed to see the light of day! Why? Well, come on now (would've thought you figured that out by now):

    They're ac "TroLLs"... lmao!

    APK

    P.S.=> Delphi & C/C++ rule, why? What was Python created in/by?? The latter - & when I see Python do a device driver, then, I'll take that back (one for Windows on PC's/Servers as the driver too)

    ... apk

  188. Imo @ least? Data Perfection, reigns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I eliminate uncertainty - but not the further possibility of it from my sources (intentional or not, if they chaged things in their site even).

    I eliminate it, via redundancy & safety for 100% absolutely assured accuracy in the "convert & filter" stage, longest of all, but you MAY be able to get away with it (I did just now on a partial import, 100% clearn data), & for what it filters out, & being safe/sure - my posts lists it when I post about the app in the details section.

    * Speed's nice - but, in matters of a datafile (the end goal here), it's garbage in/garbage out is a no-no! THE Absolute "no-no"...

    (Again - Making the file perfect IS the goal, above all else... data sanity. My program -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 does that when run WITH Convert & Filter, rather than without - then, it gets done well under 2 minutes time)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am only reiterating now, what I said before: To assure 100% absolute perfection of the output, even to efficiency 100% no fat all business hosts file, you do the Convert & Filter, 10 minutes of your time. For 98%++ or better? Get done under 2 minutes time tops, & Import + Normalize/Deduplicate & save via rightclick on output screen...

    ... apk

  189. Back to the topic, & reality, trolls... lol! a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in from here in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Your evading that challenge really isn't showing anyone they should hire you for a job!

    (In fact, I think you're projecting you don't have one with that little off-topic rant of yours I am replying to, lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls! Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  190. Back to the topic, & reality, trolls (lol)... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in from here in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    YOU FAIL

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls! Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  191. Back to the topic, & reality, trolls (lol)... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files??

    The ones here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ???

    You know - That give free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Your evading that challenge constantly shows the intelligence & skill level in question here, & it certainly isn't mine: I have excellently working practical results...

    You clearly, do not.

    (Oh - If you care to explain what you *THINK* Big O has to do with my hosts file being 'bad', I'd like to hear how so?)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls! Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  192. Back to the topic & reality, ac trolls (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts? Instead of disproving my points on hosts files which none of you could ever do on your best day in this existence??

    Priceless...

    The ones here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ???

    You know - That give free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 [start64.com]

    Ahem: Your evading that challenge constantly shows the intelligence & skill level in question here, & it certainly isn't mine: I have excellently working practical results...

    You clearly, do not.

    (Oh - If you care to explain what you *THINK* Big O has to do with my hosts file being 'bad', I'd like to hear how so?)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls! Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  193. Back to the topic & reality, ac trolls (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts? Instead of disproving my points on hosts files which none of you could ever do on your best day in this existence??

    Priceless...

    The ones here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ???

    You know - That give free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 [start64.com]

    Ahem: Your evading that challenge constantly shows the intelligence & skill level in question here, & it certainly isn't mine: I have excellently working practical results...

    You clearly, do not.

    (However - your evasions? Heh - that's JUST THE WAY I LIKE YOU REACTING though, it's better than blowing away naysayers, of which I have thusfar of around 5 from the very challenge I gave you, below... nothing like getting a GOOD EVASION from ac trolls, lol! Not in my book...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls! Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  194. Back to the topic & reality 'CruTcHy' (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts? Instead of disproving my points on hosts files which none of you could ever do on your best day in this existence??

    Priceless...

    The ones here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ???

    You know - That give free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 [start64.com]

    Ahem: Your evading that challenge constantly shows the intelligence & skill level in question here, & it certainly isn't mine: I have excellently working practical results...

    You clearly, do not.

    (However - your evasions? Heh - that's JUST THE WAY I LIKE YOU REACTING though, it's better than blowing away naysayers, of which I have thusfar of around 5 from the very challenge I gave you, below... nothing like getting a GOOD EVASION from 'CruTcHy', lol! Not in my book...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, 'CruTcHy': Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

    1. Re:Back to the topic & reality 'CruTcHy' (lol) by crutchy · · Score: 1

      moron

      and real programmers use iptables scripts, not hosts... moron

  195. Trolls (metrix007 + LordLimecat) hiding defeat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Metrix007 or LordLimecat - hiding your defeats by bad downmods again?

  196. People hate off topic trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Lord Limecat messed up badly. Let's get back on topic, shall we?? Thank-You http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  197. ROTFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2-4-da-price-o-1: "A Double Whammy" 4 Lord Limecat http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  198. Re:Back to the topic & reality, ac trolls (lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Why the fuck should I prove or disprove something I never addressed in the first place?

    I made a joke about an urban legend. You made numerous replies that had nothing to do with the joke and/or the urban legend.

    And you still haven't told me how to remove the notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe trojan from my PC. Numerous anti-malware sites describe it as dangerous malware that needs to be removed at once. That's pretty much the only question I've asked you, but other than some rant at CA which was deliberately written such that it can't be taken seriously ("Thor Schmuck"), you haven't addressed that either.

    Hosts files? I couldn't give a rats ass. How you defend your PC is up to you.

  199. Re:Eat your words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I'm always careful when running third party Windows tools, for obvious reasons, and tend to test them on an old Slackware box using wine rather than immediately rushing to install on my brand new Windows 7 PC. What I found was disturbing, the APKTools package I downloaded installed something called apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe, which according to several sites is extremely dangerous malware. Fortunately I tested first on the Slackware box and quickly restored the .wine directory from a back-up, otherwise I could have been in trouble. So my advice, be careful! You don't want your PC to be infected with this kind of thing!

  200. Re:Back to the topic & reality, ac trolls (lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Back to reality and the topic troll -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41079143 and that's no virus and not same progarm even -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

  201. Back to reality & the topic, cbiltcliffe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts? Instead of disproving my points on hosts files which none of you could ever do on your best day in this existence??

    Priceless...

    The ones here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ???

    You know - That give free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity

    *... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Ahem: Your evading that challenge constantly shows the intelligence & skill level in question here, & it certainly isn't mine: I have excellently working practical results - ON THE TOPIC AT HAND NO LESS...

    You clearly, do not.

    (However - your evasions? Heh - that's JUST THE WAY I LIKE YOU REACTING though, it's better than blowing away naysayers, of which I have thusfar of around 5 from the very challenge I gave you, below... nothing like getting a GOOD EVASION from cbiltcliffe (who likes to call folks "cocksucking douches" -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36646308 ), lol! Not in my book...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, cbiltcliffe - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' beneifits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

    1. Re:Back to reality & the topic, cbiltcliffe by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Tell me, why is it that you feel the need to reply twice to virtually every single post directed at you? Do you go on frantic Google searches trying to find ammo for your hopeless arguments?

      Ok....here's a response to one of your points:

      You claim blocking sites via a hosts file results in speed. That was your first point in the parent post to this one.

      Only one problem with that:
      A large hosts file will actually slow down the PC, resulting in...well....not speed.
      By the time you get all the ad servers, virus C&C servers, malware servers, drive by download servers, etc, all in there, it's going to be huge.

      From http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm:

      Editors Note: in most cases a large HOSTS file (over 135 kb) tends to slow down the machine.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
  202. "cocksucking douche" = cbiltcliffe projecting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject. Your "cocksucking douche" rant's projecting -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36646308 and seems to be a deep seated problem of yours simply manifesting itself by your attempts at projecting it onto others amd failing as most off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks usually do.

    The rest of what you just said seems to be the same manifestation of your own shortcomings also.

    Seek help with your issues. Shock Therapy isn't doing it for you anymore and neither are your meds.

  203. Re:Back to the topic & reality, ac trolls (lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell you what, if you want me to talk to you about HOSTS files, I'll do it. But I absolutely insist that you, first, tell me that my theories on the provability of p=np are either correct or incorrect, with examples.

    Your alternative is to apologize to me for responding to a joke about an urban legend with a form comment that had nothing to do with the joke or anything the joke was addressing.

    You really are the Todd Akin of Slashdot you know.

  204. My program's NOT a 16-bit VB app... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Also while I already had this DLL installed, VBRUN300.DLL seems to be locked (in use) by the tool." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21, @04:23PM (#41073071)

    My program has no runtime lib dependencies since it's a stand-alone single self-contained executable written in Delphi XE2 Object Pascal 32 & 64-bit.

    It's not written in Visual Basic (much less a 16 bit VB3 model for which VBRUN300.DLL is the runtime lib).

    For & about the topic @ hand no less... unlike your b.s. there, troll...

    APK

    P.S.=> #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - A Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com

    ---

    * My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites... & in 1 case, complimented as excellent (by email).

    APK

    P.S.=> Like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE (which actually exists in easy-to-use GUI form -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 ) ?

  205. Re:Eat your words (5core:S 1nformative) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You dodged a bullet. I did some reading and apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe sounds like it's one of the most dangerous programs on the Internet, based upon the reviews below.

    CA
    PestPatrol
    SpywareDB ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR"
    Spyware No-More ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    Based upon the above, I'd say better advice than simply restoring your Slackware .wine directory would be to completely lowlevel format the drives. I hope you haven't kept your PC connected to the Internet since you installed the app.

  206. What's discrete math P NP got to do with hosts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hosts which are the topic?? Back to reality and the topic troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41079143 - there's theory (of which you don't even know what you're talking about using discrete math P=NP and Big O telling us how they apply to hosts files) and there's reality and work in practice in the link above.

    1. Re:What's discrete math P NP got to do with hosts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The topic of other subthreads may be about hosts, but this thread isn't. The head of the tree is here.

      You'll see that that comment has nothing whatsoever to do with hosts. Therefore, no responds to it are on-topic or even relevent if they suggest or imply, in anyway, that the comment has anything to do with hosts.

      It's a joke. About an urban legend.

      So, I'm going to ignore you talking about hosts in this subthread, unless you post an equally irrelevent response challenging or agreeing with my theories on the provability of p=np. Which should be interesting, given I haven't posted any.

  207. Sources in the security community say otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Better sources of authority say it does ac troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066353

    On the link you posted?

    That's an old program of mine that was falsely accused of being a malware (like has happened to Nir Sofer or Nirsoft and even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft)

    It was downgraded to zero threat levels (and CA had to sell of that "security suite" too, lol) and I passed every one of their 21 questions for removal and they did not remove it like they should have!

    (They don't even obey their own rules is their problem along with CA also being busted for accounting fraud by the SEC) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    * So much for your off-topic trolling crap as usual!

    APK

    P.S.=> Back on topic & reality now ac trolls: How come none of you can disprove my points on custom hosts files that gain users speed, security, reliability & even anonymity -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 hmmm?

    ... apk

  208. Re:Jay Little "the self-proclaimed Exchange Expert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Jay Little/metrix007 got his ass handed to him there and here, lol.

  209. Re:Back to the topic, & reality, trolls (lol). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by attempting to redefine these statements of fact as an argument against hosts files.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.

    Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven all of these statements to be correct, as I said he would.

    Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct.

  210. Quit projecting your faults ac troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You're an off-topic troll attempting failing ad hominem attacks. Back to reality and the topic ac troll -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41079051

    1. Re:Quit projecting your faults ac troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.

      Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven all of these statements to be correct, as I said he would.

      Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct.

  211. Not MS: Lord Limecat & metrix007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 ) or LordLimecat (blew it equally bad on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "?"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

  212. Anyone can be a critic (not a chef though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2 members of the security community say its excellent & host it:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - A Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    * Yes - My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites, as well as an exclusively 64-bit applications website too (see below)... & in 1 case, complimented as excellent (by email from Mr. Burn of malwarebytes/hpHosts).

    APK

    P.S.=> Like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE?

    (Mine, which actually exists in easy-to-use GUI form -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 ) ?

    ... apk

    1. Re:Anyone can be a critic (not a chef though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You continue to repeat yourself in the hopes that the facts will change. They will not.

      Your program takes, by your own admission, four million processor cycles to write a hostsfile entry.

      That is horribly inefficient. There is absolutely no way to defend it as anything else. You know you cannot do it, which is why you try changing the subject and shrieking lies.

      You will prove me right by doing exactly the same thing again.

  213. Topic's hosts files: How's that affect them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    What's P=NP or Big O theory got to do with hosts in real world practice? The article topic here is custom hosts files troll. There's the real world in practice -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 and there's theory (of which you haven't even explained how you relate big 0 and P=NP discrete math to it in the first place).

    1. Re:Topic's hosts files: How's that affect them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      What's P=NP or Big O theory got to do with hosts in real world practice?

      I'm sorry, but Big O? What does big O have to do with anything I wrote? I asked about p=np. I said that if you were going to demand that I respond to your questions about HOSTS because I posted a JOKE about an URBAN LEGEND, that you give me a similarly irrelevant set of comments on p=np.

      And why are you asking about p=np's relationship to hosts? What does that have to do with anything at all?

      Here's the deal, stated simply so you'll understand it.

      I made a JOKE about "SUMMONING APK", making reference to an URBAN LEGEND.

      Your response was... about HOSTS FILES. Not about SUMMONING APK. Not about URBAN LEGENDS.

      Your response DID NOT MATCH THE COMMENT. It was entirely IRRELEVANT. It was, as such, OFF-TOPIC.

      You keep demanding that I answer your questions about FUCKING HOSTS FILES. I don't care about HOSTS FILES. I never mentioned them. I never CHALLENGED nor ACCEPTED any assertions made about HOSTS FILES.

      If you are going to keep INSISTING I should write something about a topic I DON'T CARE ABOUT AND DIDN'T BRING UP, then I'm going to insist YOU write something about a topic YOU DIDN'T BRING UP.

      That's it. I will talk about YOUR TOPIC if, and only if, you talk about mine.

      Or, you know, you could SHUT THE FUCK UP, and laugh, or not laugh, at the original joke.

      You know. You remember that? The original joke? The one that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOSTS FILES?

  214. The topic is hosts files (see source article) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    What does anything you talk about have to do with hosts files?

  215. The base of this the subthread was a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    For the last fucking time: NOTHING.

    My God, it takes a special kind of stupid to think a reference to an urban legend about "summoning APK" is hosts file related.

  216. Downmods to hide a challenge & ac troll screwu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Showing how LordLimecat blew it here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And here too http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location - AND, if you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too...

    (Of course, there's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too-> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 )

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do, since face 1 simple fact: Admins/techs? They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  217. How's it affect creating or using hosts though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    How would it affect making a custom hosts file or using one?

    There's theory, versus actual real world practice -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Your theory isn't holding up well if you can't apply it to the topic. Especially if you don't relate how you feel it adversely affects hosts file creation or using one, which is, our topic.

  218. You're just an off topic ac troll then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Who wastes our time + yours, nothing more. One who's outta gas.

  219. GP metrix007 blew it & disappeared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  220. GP metrix007 blew it & disappeared, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Right off the bat (workaround always existed) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913

  221. Why's APK downmodded? He's correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  222. Why's APK downmodded? He's correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  223. Well played apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    They can't disprove your points on hosts. Hence, they evade them.

  224. LordLimecat you blew it on gpedit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  225. Who got erroneous information from CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Whom I disproved w\ their own rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded m app to ZERO threat levels...

    (CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol, and CA was caught in accounting FRAUD scandals galore by the SEC - real criminals)

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself.

    * Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all - it only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I proved that much easily, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  226. That's already been disproved (CA failed) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded m app to ZERO threat levels...

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

    - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    * Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  227. That's disproved already (CA failed) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded m app to ZERO threat levels...

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

    CA was caught in accounting FRAUD scandals galore by the SEC - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    * Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  228. Your illogical off topic ad hominem attack fails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded that old app of mine to ZERO threat levels...

    They're the ones that had a part in the ERRONEOUS false positives ridden IKARUS database... ask Nir Sofer about it.

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

    CA was caught in accounting FRAUD scandals galore by the SEC - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    * Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  229. Re:Eat your words (5core:3 1nteresting) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I head the same things although I'm pretty sure I did enough of a reset on my Slackware install that it wasn't a problem! My Slackware PC is not connected to the Internet, although it is on a network of its own that gives it the illusion of being Internet connected.

    Interestingly APK's main app appears to be written in some kind of obscuficated pseudo-assembler. I took the liberty of running a disassembler against it to try to figure out what it does, and why it takes 15 minutes to, essentially, sort a few million records, and the executable (16 bit BTW!) is just a stub to load a 300k support library VBRUN300.DLL (which claims to be copyright Microsoft... yeah, right!), the rest apparently being some kind of custom p-code type thing.

    Weird.

  230. Why's APK downmodded? He's correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  231. APK downmodded? He's correct, ac troll=wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You're in error ac troll. APK proved that http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583

  232. APK downmodded? He's correct, ac troll=wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  233. APK downmodded? He's correct, ac troll=wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  234. APK downmodded? He's correct, ac troll=wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  235. Those lies have been disproved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  236. Those lies've been disproven here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  237. APK's code works, & you fail, ac troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It's his own (not built-in -> print "troll bs here"[::-1]) + fully err trapped http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054945: Where's yours? It isn't. You fail, ac troll, you fail, lol! Besides, python is WEAK compared to C/C++ (the latter python was written in) & Delphi -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41061411

  238. Downmods to hide I am correct? LMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Showing how LordLimecat blew it here on gpedit http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too...

    Of course, there's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do, since face 1 simple fact: Admins/techs? They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  239. Your illogical off-topic ad hominem attack failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1st: I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded that old app of mine to ZERO threat levels...

    They're the ones that had a part in the ERRONEOUS false positives ridden IKARUS database...

    Ask Nir Sofer about it.

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

      - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk - real criminals!

  240. Your off-topic illogical ad hominem attack failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1st: I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded that old app of mine to ZERO threat levels...

    They're the ones that had a part in the ERRONEOUS false positives ridden IKARUS database...

    Ask Nir Sofer about it.

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

      - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  241. Your off-topic illogical ad hominem attack failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1st: I disproved that using CA's rules (passing 21 removal questions):

    They don't even obey their own RULES on that - since it should have been removed by my passing ALL 21 OF THEIR REMOVAL QUESTIONS, but instead, downgraded that old app of mine to ZERO threat levels...

    They're the ones that had a part in the ERRONEOUS false positives ridden IKARUS database...

    Ask Nir Sofer about it.

    CA's PC security suite got sold off, lol!

    AND

      - real criminals!

    * Read ALL about it here (though it is off topic) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (That easily puts away your illogical off topic failing attempt @ an ad hominem attack on myself)

    Yes, you can keep evading disproving my points on custom hosts files all you like:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    After all & ABOVE ALL ELSE here:

    Your evasions or failures in disproving my points on speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity gains + more hosts files give end users of them only ends up making ME, look GOOD, & you ac trolls attempting off-topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks, "not so good" (lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> False positives happen - I even proved that much easily in that link above, & they've happened to others like myself in Nir Sofer OR even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft also (whom you can write either gent on that note, they'll tell you, happens to the BEST of us)...

    ... apk

  242. Security Community shows otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Better sources of authority say it does ac troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066353 since 2 security sites (malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca.org) host it...

    LOL!

    On the link you posted?

    That's an old program of mine that was falsely accused of being a malware (like has happened to Nir Sofer or Nirsoft and even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft)

    It was downgraded to zero threat levels (and CA had to sell of that "security suite" too, lol) and I passed every one of their 21 questions for removal and they did not remove it like they should have!

    They don't even obey their own rules!

    That is their problem along with CA also being busted for accounting fraud by the SEC -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    * So much for your off-topic trolling crap as usual, ac trolls!

    APK

    P.S.=> Back on topic & reality now ac trolls: How come none of you can disprove my points on custom hosts files that gain users speed, security, reliability & even anonymity -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439 hmmm?

    ...apk

  243. Not MS: metrix007 & LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

  244. Yes, APK did "THE guide" to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  245. Hahahaha @ 'CruTcHy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    ROTFLMAO good one apk

    1. Re:Hahahaha @ 'CruTcHy' by crutchy · · Score: 1

      laughing at your own jokes... good one apk

  246. APK kicked your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  247. Back on-topic & reality, ac trolls (lol)... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity ... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    * Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (YOU FAIL!!!)

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' benefits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  248. Anyone can be a critic (not a chef though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2 members of the security community say its excellent & host it:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    * Yes - My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites, as well as an exclusively 64-bit applications website too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Plus, in 1 case so far - Complimented as excellent (by email from Mr. Burn of malwarebytes/hpHosts).

    APK

    P.S.=> So, like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE, Mr. "not Chef"?

    ... apk

  249. Anyone can be a critic (but not a chef) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2 members of the security community say its excellent & host it:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    * Yes - My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites, as well as an exclusively 64-bit applications website too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Plus, in 1 case so far - Complimented as excellent (by email from Mr. Burn of malwarebytes/hpHosts).

    APK

    P.S.=> So, like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE, Mr. "not Chef"?

    ... apk

  250. You FAIL via your PARTIAL QUOTE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Not IF/WHEN you turn off the local DNS cache:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    ---

    "To resolve this issue (manually) open the "Services Editor"
    Start | Run (type) "services.msc" (no quotes)
    Scroll down to "DNS Client", Right-click and select: Properties - click Stop
    Click the drop-down arrow for "Startup type"
    Select: Manual (recommended) or Disabled click Apply/Ok and restart. [more info]"

    ---

    There's other ways too... without having to turn off the local DNS clientside cache service:

    ---

    TO BE ABLE TO USE DNS CLIENTSIDE LOCAL CACHE SERVICE WITH A LARGE HOSTS FILE:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache\Parameters
    Click Edit > New > DWORD Value (type) MaxCacheTtl
    Click Edit > New > DWORD Value (type) MaxNegativeCacheTtl
    Next right-click on the MaxCacheTtl entry (right pane) and select: Modify and change the value to 1
    The MaxNegativeCacheTtl entry should already have a value of 0 (leave it that way - see screenshot)
    Close Regedit and reboot ...
    As usual you should always backup your Registry before editing ... see Regedit Help under "Exporting Registry files"

    ---

    Personally - I turn the local clientside DNS cache service off... what do I need to be running it for, when I can just save CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O it uses for other things since it's faulty with larger hosts files for?

    (The local kernelmode diskcaching subsystem will do the SAME, & cache my hosts file for me, & since my hosts files keep "hardcoded favorites" of mine in them? Voila...)

    * Nice try on the PARTIAL QUOTE... what a stooge move!

    APK

    P.S.=> You FAIL... apk

    1. Re:You FAIL via your PARTIAL QUOTE by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Turning off the DNS cache doesn't eliminate the problem. It merely increases the size of the hosts file that can be used before the slowdown becomes noticeable.
      Yes, it needs to be a huge hosts file, but it's still going to be a problem.

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
  251. cbiltcliffe FAIL (on partial quote troll trick) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41093025

    * One of the "lowest of the low" troll tricks... partial quotes, & cbiltcliffe blew it on it when I caught him in it!

    APK

  252. cbiltcliff's FAIL (via partial quote troll trick) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41093025

    * One of the "lowest of the low" troll tricks... partial quotes, & cbiltcliffe blew it on it when I caught him in it!

    APK

  253. Was laughin @ u 'CruTcHy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Quit projecting what u do onto others, troll. Get on topic for once.

    1. Re:Was laughin @ u 'CruTcHy' by crutchy · · Score: 1

      and what is the topic? do you (ever) even know? you like nothing more than crapping on about custom hosts and open sores and all sorts of other unintelligible garbage

      yeah i know... i'm feeding the troll (smacks self)

    2. Re:Was laughin @ u 'CruTcHy' by crutchy · · Score: 1

      i wish i could have seen your face when you read this http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41091833

      pwnage

    3. Re:Was laughin @ u 'CruTcHy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      hosts happen to be the topic crutchy.

  254. No err where it mattered vs. u 'CruTcHy' (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    wasn't any error here where it mattered vs. you troll http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 was there, 'CruTcHy' (lol) ? Nope. You're full of it like usual.

    1. Re:No err where it mattered vs. u 'CruTcHy' (lol) by crutchy · · Score: 1

      P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk

      wasn't any error here where it mattered

      if you really were a programmer, you would know that it either compiles/interprets or it doesn't... there is no "where it matters"... tard

  255. My program's not a 16-bit VB app troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Also while I already had this DLL installed, VBRUN300.DLL seems to be locked (in use) by the tool." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21, @04:23PM (#41073071)

    My program has no runtime lib dependencies since it's a stand-alone single self-contained executable written in Delphi XE2 Object Pascal 32 & 64-bit.

    It's not written in Visual Basic (much less a 16 bit VB3 model for which VBRUN300.DLL is the runtime lib).

    * For & about the topic @ hand no less... unlike your b.s. there, troll...

    ---

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com

    ---

    * My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites... & in 1 case, complimented as excellent (by email).

    APK

    P.S.=> Like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE?

    (Which actually exists in easy-to-use GUI form -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 )

    ?

    ... apk

  256. Data PERFECTION reigns... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I eliminate uncertainty - but not the further possibility of it from my sources (intentional or not, if they chaged things in their site even).

    I eliminate it, via redundancy & safety for 100% absolutely assured accuracy in the "convert & filter" stage, longest of all, but you MAY be able to get away with it (I did just now on a partial import, 100% clearn data), & for what it filters out, & being safe/sure - my posts lists it when I post about the app in the details section.

    * Speed's nice - but, in matters of a datafile (the end goal here), it's garbage in/garbage out is a no-no!

    THE Absolute "no-no"...

    Again - Making the file perfect IS the goal, above all else... data sanity.

    (My program -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 does that when run WITH Convert & Filter, rather than without - then, it gets done well under 2 minutes time)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am only reiterating now, what I said before: To assure 100% absolute perfection of the output, even to efficiency 100% no fat all business hosts file, you do the Convert & Filter, 10 minutes of your time.

    For 98%++ or better?

    Get done under 2 minutes time tops, & Import + Normalize/Deduplicate & save via rightclick on output screen...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Data PERFECTION reigns... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you're understanding the point here - _any_ algorithm that takes 10 minutes to filter a couple of MB of text on an i7 machine is horribly, horribly broken.
      It just shouldn't take that long.

      - convert all to lower case
      - take out comments and malformed entries
      - sort
      - remove duplicates
      - add 0.0.0.0
      That shouldn't take more than a minute, even in an interpreted language like perl, and the output should be perfect from a single run, regardless of the state of the input files.

      Whatever you're doing is horribly, horribly inefficient, and you still haven't explained why.

    2. Re:Data PERFECTION reigns... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, apparently, it works great on this 400Hz computer: http://idle.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1631698&cid=32039126

      Yep. 400 Hertz.

  257. Do You? No. APK's gotten it beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Do YOU understand Big O vs. APK's reply (& you downmodded to hide it) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049693 ? Your meaningless drivel doesn't affect anyone gaining speed, security, reliability and more from using custom hosts files.

  258. Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I see from your other replies to the trolls (don't pay them any mind, they're only "ne'er-do-wells" after all), that you also used the "tricks" I noted here to do it http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977 Good job... thanks!

    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy the program, but, more importantly, enjoy the results it gives you in:

    ---

    1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
    2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
    3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
    4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
    5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
    6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
    7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
    8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
    9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
    10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
    11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
    12.) Faster & MORE EFFICIENT operation vs. browser plugins (which "layer on" ontop of Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode browsers - whereas the hosts file operates @ the Ring 0/RPL 0/Kernelmode of operation (far faster) as a filter for the IP stack itself...)
    13.) Blocking out TRACKERS
    14.) Custom hosts files work on ANY & ALL webbound apps (browser plugins do not).
    15.) Custom hosts files offer a better, faster, more efficient way, & safer way to surf the web & are COMPLETELY controlled by the end-user of them.

    ---

    ... apk

    1. Re:Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      APK goes meta. Replies to himself replying to himself.

    2. Re:Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      ac troll continues being no balls "ne'er-do-well" ac troll here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121905

    3. Re:Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's up with your obsession with the phrase "ne'er-do-well"? This isn't Dickensian London, you know.

    4. Re:Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
    5. Re:Excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because he's a vagabond and a scallywag!

  259. Back on-topic & reality, ac trolls (lol)... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity ... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    * Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (YOU FAIL!!!)

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' benefits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  260. Back on-topic & reality, ac trolls (lol)... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity ... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    * Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (YOU FAIL!!!)

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' benefits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  261. Back on-topic & reality, ac trolls (lol)... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity ... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    * Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (YOU FAIL!!!)

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' benefits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  262. Back on-topic & reality, ac trolls (lol)... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Illogical off topic failing ad hominem attack attempts?

    Instead of disproving my points on hosts files here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    You know - Giving free multiple level excellent benefits & results, immediately noticeable ones listed below, to end users of them in:

    ---

    1.) Speed
    2.) Security
    3.) Reliability
    4.) Anonymity ... And far, Far, FAR more...?

    ---

    * Especially via this creation of mine -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (YOU FAIL!!!)

    You know it, I know it, everyone/anyone reading knows it.

    (That's actually just the way I like it too, seeing you "run, forrest: run!!!"... nothing like getting a GOOD evasion out of trolls, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Back to the topic, trolls - Disprove my points on custom hosts files' benefits -> "Is there no one else?" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048439

    ... apk

  263. APK's code works: You FAIL troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It's his own (not built-in -> print "troll bs here"[::-1]) + fully err trapped http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054945 : Where's yours? It isn't. You fail, ac troll, you fail, lol! Besides, python is WEAK compared to C/C++ (the latter python was written in) & Delphi -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41061411

  264. What's P=NP got to do w\ the topic (hosts files)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Unless you can show us what you mean with it applying to the topic of creating and using hosts files that affects those things adversely? You fail.

  265. For a "false programmer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK's done a lot (while you were still in diapers) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048363 - so what have YOU done by way of comparison, troll? Zero... lol!

  266. LordLimecat you blew it on gpedit (lmao) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You're no admin. You fail vs. apk on networking -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  267. metrix007 FAILED right off the bat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It's not a demise of the hosts file - metrix missed the fix -> :

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    ---

    "It's not a "demise" by the by - MS Sec Essentials is the KEY "workaround"" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @04:45PM (#41048263)

    Quoting myself, FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    AND FROM THE SOURCE ARTICLE ITSELF:

    ---

    "Update: Tom just pointed out that turning off Windows Defender, which basically is Microsoft Security Essentials, in Windows 8 will resolve the issue."

    ---

    LMAO - YOU FAIL TROLL (metrix007)... you fail.

    Nothing new: Metrix007's blown the challenge I put to you all here as well, 9 times including today here vs myself, lol... example from the past I posted (just 1 of 8):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018

    I.E.-> Where metrix007 RAN from disproving my points in favor of hosts files for end users gain in security, speed/bandwidth, efficiency, reliability, & even anonymity to some extent (vs. DNSBL's) & more in the past like he has here today, yet again, lol!

    "Gosh - just like he has here", same story, evasions & ac trolling afterwards, after he has "egg on his face", again!

    ---

    * Seems NONE of you can face this challenge & disprove my points on hosts files in fact:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299

    LMAO, I love it... thanks for making ME, look GOOD, & yourselves as ac trolls? Well - "not so good"!

    ---

    (metrix007 - "RTFA"... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ac trolls - they never stop, & never FAIL to FAIL, lol... they are a devoted fanclub of mine though, lol!

    ... apk

  268. APK wrote an excellent guide on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  269. LordLimecat's "EPIC FAIL", lmao! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2-4-da-price-o-1: "A Double Whammy" 4 Lord Limecat http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

  270. Oh, lol, the "EPIC SPANKING" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  271. LMAO - a "massive spankage" of LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat calls hosts users armchair admins but blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 LordLimecat never showed up here to face the music like apk challenged him to, so apk NUKED LORDLIMECAT since group policy tool gpedit can be used to parse autoexec or logon scripts and there's task scheduler too that can be used to update a common hosts file across a lan/wan. Served LordLimecat right.

  272. metrix007 & LordLimecat agree (spanked) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat made a rookie noob error ongpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 and apk administered a "nuclear spanking" on him, lol, and on metrix007 showed us he can't even read correctly, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055453 since the fix is in Microsoft Security Essentials, per the source article quoted here:

    "Update: Tom just pointed out that turning off Windows Defender, which basically is Microsoft Security Essentials, in Windows 8 will resolve the issue." From the source article here: http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/you-cant-block-facebook-using-windows-8s-hosts-file/

    Which the blundering trolling dolt metrix007 overlooked, lol!

  273. The "massive spanking" of LordLimecat (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And

    Here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too... as I had to point out to "armchair admin" LordLimecat (who called others that, lol, oh the "PROJECTION" he was doing was SO APPARENT, I had to spank him with it, for his reprehensible trollery!)

    Of course?

    There's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * Enjoy the program, but more importantly, the added extra speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs) it gives you, the end user of custom hosts files...

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do!

    How so?

    Well, since there's 1 simple fact:

    Admins/techs?

    They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  274. You hate yourself for your fail vs. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Lord Limecat messed up badly on gpedit vs. apk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 oh, the "massive spanking", rotflmao!

  275. Re:Eat your words (5core:2 1nquisitive) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awesome. Did you figure out why it requires Netscape 4? For the life of me I couldn't figure out that dependency.

  276. metrix007 instantly "SPANKED", rotflmao! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  277. APK downmodded? He's correct & ac troll = wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  278. 2 members of the security community disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    2 of them host it, and say its excellent - write them if you wish:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    Anyone can be a critic (not a chef though)

    2 members of the security community say its excellent & host it:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    * Yes - My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites, as well as an exclusively 64-bit applications website too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Plus, in 1 case so far - Complimented as excellent (by email from Mr. Burn of malwarebytes/hpHosts).

    APK

    P.S.=> So, like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE, Mr. "not Chef"?

    ... apk

    1. Re:2 members of the security community disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Do you have a source that proves that it isn't malware? LOL you can't

      ---

      Proof of the efficacious of CA

      CA
        PestPatrol
        SpywareDB ("Dangerous!")
        Freedom Anti-Spyware
        Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR"
        Spyware No-More ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

      CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

      --- NAPK

      P.S. => Just ask BILL GATES. When I asked him if he knew APK and whether APK was a good programmer he said "What? Who?" or would have done had I asked him.

      P.P.S => More proof

      * Thor Schrock, who knows about spyware and malware and has been known to manage a real business, said this about APK and his letters to him

      If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face.

      Do you manage a major corporation APK? Do you even live in Nebraska? ROFL I don't think so!

  279. Not MS: metrix007 & LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol

    ... apk

  280. 2 members of the security community disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    Anyone can be a critic (not a chef though)

    2 members of the security community say its excellent & host it:

    #1 - The malwarebytes/hpHosts site admin a person/site in the security community's hosting it (Mr. Steven Burn, a competent coder in his own right), said it's "excellent" in fact and has seen its code too... Write him yourselves should anyone doubt any of this -> services@it-mate.co.uk , or see his site, my program's also hosted there @ http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    ---

    #2 - Mr. Henry Hertz Hobbitt of securemecca.org &/or hostsfile.org http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html can also verify that this program is safe - write him @ -> hhhobbit@securemecca.com OR just see his site, my work's hosted there also...

    ---

    * Yes - My program's good enough in both 32-bit & 64-bit GUI code to be featured on their websites, as well as an exclusively 64-bit applications website too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Plus, in 1 case so far - Complimented as excellent (by email from Mr. Burn of malwarebytes/hpHosts).

    APK

    P.S.=> So, like I said before: Where's YOURS, vs. MINE, Mr. "not Chef"?

    ... apk

  281. Not MS: metrix007 & LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

  282. APK = correct, but downmodded? WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  283. APK=correct, but downmodded? WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  284. APK=correct, but downmodded? WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  285. CA was disproven (& caught in acc'ting scandal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Proves it all -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339 & as far as REAL WORLD working experience here?

    Since 1994, i've been a professional programmer-analyst (more than a few times in the Fortune 100-500), which Thor "SCHMUCK" certainly doesn't have, lol!

    AND

    One's who has done well in concerns outside of normal work, but also in commercially sold software code, doing well in trade publications/review, books in the art & science of computing, & more...

    How about you?

    APK

    P.S.=> As far as mgt.? I'm a degreed B.S. in MIS pro, and have 4++ actual years of professional, company leading experience... apk

  286. Re:Eat your words (5core:2 1nquisitive) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. OK, sit down, because you're going to be amazed by this.

    It looks like the code invokes Netscape purely to download a bunch of lists of hosts files. Now, I know what you're saying, "Why not download them directly? And anyway, how much harder is it to interface with Netscape?"

    Well, here's the joke. All it does is launch Netscape to load those pages. Then after a delay, it plows through the entire cache looking for the pages that were just loaded! It then pulls the host names out of that cache!

    HTTP is EASY to implement. Why APK would do it this way is anyone's guess!

  287. APK=correct, & downmodded? ac troll=wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  288. NAPK owned you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    * Your own posting on Slashdot proves it? LOL! I want real evidence!

    And Thor Schrock is smarter than you, he can, after all, write both his own name, and yours whereas you can't even write "Schrock" LOL. Show me your typing diploma. Do you have a typing diploma APK? You can't show me yours because you don't have one

    You ran a REAL business? I don't think so! Real businesses are like CA, IBM, Schrock Associates, Oracle, Google, and Microsoft. You think you have industry experience just because you ran an "LLC" out of your basement? ROFL.

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com]

      PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com]

      SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")

      Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net]

      Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es]

      Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up". Troll no more APK!

    --- NAPK

    P.S => Visual BASIC 3? ROFL!!

    P.P.S => For the "trolls" Big O is a measure of complexity, whereby the length of time, measured in cycles, of a looped operation is compared to the amount of data being processed. For example, a hash lookup is O(1), a search through a list is O(N) (because the number of operations is proportional, on average, to the number of items), and a bubblesort is O(n!) (I think, I can't remember, it's been a while since I did this.) The reason it's relevant to a hosts file generator is that if you use the wrong algorithms, you'll find that the length of time it takes to process your initial hosts list will increase exponentially, or worse, as you add more hosts.

    P.P.P.S => That wasn't really for the "trolls", that was for you APK. I thought you might need it explaining to you.

    P.P.P.P.S => FOUR MILLION CLOCK CYCLES PER HOSTNAME? Seriously? LOL! Do you have a real computer science degree APK or one you bought from an online college? ROFL etc.

    1. Re:NAPK owned you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I run a REAL business, right now, & for years now... and Thor "SCHMUCK"? Well, looks like his buddies @ CA got SOLD OFF (after being caught in accounting scandals) - real "good people" he pals around with, eh? NOT! Birds of a Feather & all that... lol!

      ---

      This is the part that MAKES ME LAUGH THE MOST since I covered HOW I GET AROUND IT, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049693

      " For the "trolls" Big O is a measure of complexity, whereby the length of time, measured in cycles, of a looped operation is compared to the amount of data being processed. For example, a hash lookup is O(1), a search through a list is O(N) (because the number of operations is proportional, on average, to the number of items), and a bubblesort is O(n!) (I think, I can't remember, it's been a while since I did this.) The reason it's relevant to a hosts file generator is that if you use the wrong algorithms, you'll find that the length of time it takes to process your initial hosts list will increase exponentially, or worse, as you add more hosts." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, @04:16PM (#41100739)

      It only takes 2 MINUTES to import, sort, & deduplicate/normalize the data... on a "normal" run, that I'd be willing to guarantee 98%++ accuracy on (if not more, my last 2 runs trying it that way, & ordinarily I won't without doing the FULL "Convert & Filter" routine)... 100% IF the user elects the full "Convert & Filter" routine though.

      * So, your point is what?

      I place the FAVORITE SITES a user has @ the top, the top 20 only here are those for me.

      The remaining 1,801,065++ entries (& growing) are BLOCKED OFF ONES, so it wouldn't matter HOW FAST I get to them - I never intended to get to them IN THE FIRST PLACE, since they're blocked out.

      (This was too easy... & I doubt, severely doubt, that Thor "Schmuck" has a CSC degree or an MIS degree either (any FOOL can start a business, it's as simple as getting a DBA)).

      APK

      P.S.=> As to "real world experience" both in mgt. & coding? I'd take ALL OF CA & Thor Schmuck + put them together & they'd only have done 1/10th of what I have myself in the art & science of computing...after all: I won in the end, see above... lol, no questions asked!

      ... apk

  289. You blew it on gpedit LordLimecat (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat calls folks "armchair admins" & blows it on group policies, lol:

    "and most people on slashdot utilizing HOSTS are armchair IT admins who have no idea how networking works"- by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 20, @11:56AM (#41055533)

    FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055533

    (In his saying they don't know how networking works quoted above from yesterday)

    Well - LordLimecat surely showed HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW NETWORKING WORKS by not knowing how to use Group Policies to parse AutoExec &/or Logon Scripts:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129

    and here too:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049013

    * Fact is - I had to point it out to you, and YES, I USE HOSTS FILES - & not just once, but twice... you "armchair admin" (IF you even rate THAT!)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Funny that, eh? How "the great admin" (not) LordLimecat had to be "schooled" by a hosts file user/armchair admin like me, hmmm?? Not...

    LordLimecat's an "armchair admin" - not even that: He's a b.s. artist that talks big, but when the chips were on the table, he projected & revealed HIS TRUE COLORS - he's no admin himself!

    ... apk

  290. DelphiXE apps don't use VBRUN300.DLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You failed right off, right there, lol - not interpreted code to begin with... & that?

    VBRUN300.DLL's a 16-bit runtime library for VB 3.x, not a 32 or 64 bit executable, which IS what I wrote here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    AND THE PAGE THERE SHOWS THAT MUCH!

    (You fail, badly... liar!)

    The program can be run 1 of 2 ways (the first I don't guarantee absolutely 100% accuracy, though most of the time it WILL be that way, unless the sources change their site data, since some do "screen scrapes" rather than file downloads is why):

    ---

    1.) Run it doing IMPORT, & then ONLY the 1st STAGE of the "Normalize" tab - this takes literally, under 2 minutes (faster if you have a FAST internet connection & by FAR with FIOS) - however, I don't guarantee the data being 100% uniform in form of by record format this way.

    or

    2.) Do the SAME AS ABOVE, but, do DO the "Convert & Filter" (This ASSURES 100% data output accuracy even if the sites change their format)... this does 11 string operations on EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM RECORD in the data taken in for a custom hosts file (this, takes time, but does guarantee data accuracy being perfect, or rather, as perfect as I knew how to make it after working with hosts files for nearly 20++ yrs. now). This can take up to 10 minutes... on an Intel Core I7 920 CPU @ 2.67ghz stock speed (mine).

    ---

    I did a post on it, you must have missed it (says tricks in its subject line).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - didn't you realize the site that hosts it (1 of 3, the other 2 are security sites by malwarebytes/hpHosts & securemecca) SHOWS it is a 64-bit native executable?

    Guess not & it FLOORED you... lol! apk

  291. 2 'fails' in a ROW outta you, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "It looks like the code invokes Netscape purely to download a bunch of lists of hosts files" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, @02:15PM (#41098693)

    The streaming system I use (HTTP socket streams) "masks itself" as that, for compatibility, but, lol... I don't "use Netscape 4.x", idiot... lol!

    (IF you had questions, you should've asked before... I'd have answered them, & given you a rundown of "what's-what" it the code!)

    ---

    "HTTP is EASY to implement. Why APK would do it this way is anyone's guess!" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, @02:15PM (#41098693)

    It is, I used it - a socket stream! You've only shown us YOU really do NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!

    I can't put it ANY plainer than that...

    * Your other "blunder" is below...

    APK

    P.S.-> Here's your blunder on VBRUN300.DLL (a 16-bit VB 3.x runtime lib no less), and?

    New NEWS/NewsFlash:

    DelphiXE apps, either 32 or 64 bit, don't use it, first of all & secondly? LMAO - 1 of 3 sites that host it SHOWS it is a native 64-bit executable, here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    YOU? Fail... badly!

    ... apkb

  292. LMAO - he figured out he "F'd-UP" large 2x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Here on VBRUN300.DLL -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101841

    and

    Here on Netscape 4 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    * LMAO - "2 in a ROW"/"2-4-the-price-of-1"/A "double-whammy"... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Amateurs... apk

  293. Ran JUST FINE vs. you here, 'CruTcHy' (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    "if you really were a programmer, you would know that it either compiles/interprets or it doesn't... there is no "where it matters"... tard" - by crutchy (1949900) on Thursday August 23, @05:50PM (#41102139)

    It runs, that's what I DO KNOW, & lmao - SO DO YOU!

    First - I do know that!

    After all: I wrote the code Python's interpreting that worked just FINE in the link above, lol, vs. YOURSELF!

    (It runs just fine... lol, you were witness to the results no less!)

    * Heck - even IF it were to 'crash' & burn?

    It's FULLY "error trapped", like GOOD CODE OUGHT TO BE, & would tell me the error code involved (in main) OR, tell me it "flipped out" in the reverse function!

    (Which I would do like in the main, & *IF* it "eluded me" only dumping the interpreter error... but it wouldn't - function's NOT that complex!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You did a stupid thing when you sent it thru that code checker, & what makes me laugh MOST? You don't SEE it - I "whipped that up", that scrap of PyThon code in about 15 minutes time, tops, & JUST FOR /. TROLLS LIKE YOU, 'CruTcHy' (lol)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Ran JUST FINE vs. you here, 'CruTcHy' (lol) by crutchy · · Score: 1

      if it took you 15 minutes to come up with that garbage you aren't really proclaiming yourself to be that great at programming

      i have never programmed python before; my preferred langauges are delphi and php

      anyway, i may have pasted the code with no indents in my slashdot comment, but i pasted it verbatim into the interpreter from your comment (with indentations)... so while it may run in your interpreter, as you posted it in your comment (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117) the for loop statement (on line 5) isn't indented... hence the parse error

      error trapping is for runtime exceptions, not compile/interpret time parse errors

    2. Re:Ran JUST FINE vs. you here, 'CruTcHy' (lol) by crutchy · · Score: 1

      and if you want to reverse a string, here's a simpler example (not my code, but you being the expert you supposedly are surely could have come up with it yourself):

      s = 'abc'
      s = s[::-1]
      print s

      only took me about 30 seconds with agoogle search, no indenting required, and it works in the previously linked interpreter

  294. No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): THIS, was "pwnage"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Considering how WELL my tiny python program worked http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 on YOUR "trollspeak/trollanguage", lol...

    * Don't you understand, 'CruTcHy' (lmao), that I always get the last laugh?

    APK

    P.S.=> Care to tell us what the "parse error" was, 'CruTcHy'? I doubt you even know, & the funniest part is, YOU caused it... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): THIS, was "pwnage"... apk by crutchy · · Score: 1

      I always get the last laugh?

      you laugh at your own jokes and you're a troll... duh!

      P.S.=> Care to tell us what the "parse error" was, 'CruTcHy'? I doubt you even know, & the funniest part is, YOU caused it... lol!

      i don't care what it was... python is an ass of a language, and if i had caused the parse error you would have shared it already just to rub it in my face (not that i would give a toss even if you did), so you're full of shit... i make mistakes when i'm programming, but i'm not a self-proclaimed god like you make yourself out to be

      lol i so gotta stop feeding trolls

  295. Hahahaha @ 'CruTcHy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  296. "'CruTcHy', the TROLL!!!" - LIVE!!!.. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  297. Crutch? Do you mean... 'CruTcHy'?? ( LMAO!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  298. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He's created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 . in his hosts file engine that security sites host also. You've proven yourself wrong.

  299. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 that security sites host also. You've proven yourself wrong.

  300. LOL NAPK wins again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    As usual the "trolls" lose again as seen here: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41100739

    I run a REAL business, right now, & for years now... and Thor "SCHMUCK"? Well, looks like his buddies @ CA got SOLD OFF (after being caught in accounting scandals) - real "good people" he pals around with, eh? NOT! Birds of a Feather & all that... lol! by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-23 17:09 (#41101483)

    LOL so you admit you can't spell Schrock. Where is your typing diploma APK? You can't show it because you don't have one ROFL. And you admit CA's security department was good enough that it was BOUGHT by other companies, like a long line of VALUABLE corporations like Sun Microsystems, Sinclair Research, BellSouth, DEC, etc, etc. Has anyone tried to buy APKWare LLC? I think not! It takes two to tango LOL

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA?

    CA [ca.com]

      PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com]

      SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")

      Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net]

      Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es]

      Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

    ---

    (This was too easy... & I doubt, severely doubt, that Thor "Schmuck" has a CSC degree or an MIS degree either (any FOOL can start a business, it's as simple as getting a DBA)). by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-23 17:09 (#41101483)

    A real business with real employees? I don't think so APeeK LOL! It's one thing to run an LLC out of your basement but a real corporation, one of the most respected in Nebraska? You have to at least know how to spell people's names. Thor Schrock can spell your name, can you spell his? LOL YOU CAN'T because you don't have a typing diploma. As Miss Daisy would say "Slow down!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR0oZ2pnhyg

    What absolutely staggers me here is that this is an obvious joke about your posting style and you don't get it, you'll respond to each reply with the same easily imitable crap. Anywho...

    ---- NAPK

    P.S. => Visual BASIC 3? VISUAL BASIC 3!! LOL!

    P.P.S => FOUR MILLION CLOCK CYCLES PER HOSTNAME? Seriously? LOL! Do you have a real computer science degree APK or one you bought from an online college? ROFL etc.

    P.P.P.S => As "Han Solo" would say "Talk Backward I do not Because Yoda I am not!"

    P.P.P.P.S => LOL! ROFL!

  301. Burnt by NAPK!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See here -------------> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41100739

    Trolls like APK is clearly no match for the superior coding and debating skills of NAPK who is an entirely different person and not me.

  302. No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): YOU started trolling... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you're a troll... duh!" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    See subject-line, & THIS, 'CruTcHy' (lol) - you called me a homo - your own words (in a weak illogical off-topic ad hominem attack attempt that failed):

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811)

    FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    (So QUIT CRYIN' ALREADY about "trolling", when YOU are the troll here... lol!)

    ---

    "i don't care what it was... " - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    No, you don't KNOW what it was... period (it's funny too, & again - YOU unwittingly caused it, lol!).

    ---

    "python is an ass of a language" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    Agreed, when compared to C/C++ &/or Delphi Object-Pascal... at least THAT we can agree on, but - Python's a good scripting language, I'll give it that! I can say that much, after all: I program FAIRLY FLUENTLY in around, oh, a dozen or so of them!

    ---

    "and if i had caused the parse error you would have shared it already just to rub it in my face (not that i would give a toss even if you did), so you're full of shit..." - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    No, I wanted to SEE if you'd "pick up on it", but alas, you haven't & apparently, never will...

    ---

    "i make mistakes when i'm programming" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    What programs are those? Where are they?? Here's one of mine, just recently released that does a LOT of good:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Where's YOURS like that, hmmm? It's not... I can say I am "Bill Gates", too, you know!

    ---

    "but i'm not a self-proclaimed god like you make yourself out to be " - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    When or WHERE did I say I was a "god"? I am the FIRST GUY to tell others "there are no gods in programming" & have said it on /. QUITE A FEW TIMES in fact... it's all just effort, nothing more.

    ---

    "lol i so gotta stop feeding trolls" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @04:25AM (#41106573)

    Right - you'll gain TOO MUCH WEIGHT, force-feeding yourself like that (after all, 'CruTcHy' - you DID come in here starting it up with the trolling, see above...)

    * Ah, & there you have it - Me, dispatching TROLLS, with facts... even the "irrepressible "'CruTcHy', THE TROLL"... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> "Onwards, & UPWARDS"... I RULE!

    ... apk

  303. ROFL Watch APK have no answer for NAPK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    NAPK burned APK here ---> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41100739

    Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL you can't answer because you don't have one!

  304. CA & Thor Schmuck failed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "A real business with real employees?" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @08:52AM (#41107859)

    Yes, & put it this way: I own a business that's SO SURE of monetary intake, it's not even funny (since I supply something every human being requires, as a BASIC need).

    It's got nothing to do with programming either... I meant to "cut loose" of THAT as a monetary intake ALONE, the second I saw outsourcing/offshoring take place (it's not a 'sideline' for me actually).

    ---

    "CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @08:52AM (#41107859)

    That "blew it" vs. myself, had to reduce my app to ZERO THREAT LEVELS (and, it SHOULD HAVE been removed altogether from the faulty full of KNOWN false positives IKARUS database) & they got SOLD OFF after being caught in accounting FRAUD by the SEC!

    It's all here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    "Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants?" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @08:52AM (#41107859)

    Can't you READ? Yes, professionally as a programmer-analyst since 1994 (& long before THAT as an amateur in the art & science of computing, with degrees to match in MIS & CSC formal coursework in both!)

    ---

    "LOL some of us "put up or shut up"" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @08:52AM (#41107859)

    Well, as to your last question above? I severely DOUBT you, or "Thor 'SCHMUCK'" do... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I also noticed you shut up about Big O too, after I burned you on THAT much, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101483 as well!

    ... apk

    1. Re:CA & Thor Schmuck failed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "Yes, & put it this way: I own a business that's SO SURE of monetary intake, it's not even funny (since I supply something every human being requires, as a BASIC need)." - by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-24 9:49 (#41108583)

      LOL! We already know you supply a "BASIC" need, your VB3 skills are top notch A "Pee" K! My guess is you don't do typing though, as you don't have a typing diploma!

      Proof APK can't spell Schrock here ---> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41107859

      Where is your Typing Diploma APK? I notice you don't answer! Proof of the efficacious of CA?

      CA [ca.com] [ca.com]

      PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]

      SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")

      Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]

      Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]

      Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

      CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

      ---

      "they got SOLD OFF after being caught in accounting FRAUD by the SEC!" - - by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-24 9:49 (#41108583)

      That's a strange way of saying someone bought them. You can't sell something unless it's any good. Have you ever sold anything APK? LOL!

      These are real businesses: Sun Microsystems, DEC, Sinclair Research, CA, BellSouth. Know what they have in common? People wanted to buy them and paid big $$$. Some other businesses? Enron. The Dumont Network. APKWare LLC. Anyone bought them? No, because those businesses weren't worth buying.

      --

      "I also noticed you shut up about Big O too" - - by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-24 9:49 (#41108583)

      Oooh you think because you "answered" one question in my last message about it you actually prove you knew anything about it? I don't think so APK! I'm pretty sure you still think Big O has something to do with your sphincter!

      And BTW I notice you didn't even bother commenting on the fact that I even admitted I was making fun of your posting style.

      Still, need to go to bed now APK, you do, otherwise you'll be too tired to be driving Miss Daisy tomorrow! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR0oZ2pnhyg

      --- NAPK

      P.S. => Do you have a Typing Diploma APK? I don't think you do, hence you don't answer! You can't even spell "Schrock"

      P.P.S => I see from here --> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41080409 you have a dangerous piece of malware installed on your PC!! Proof hosts doesn't work!

      P.P.P.S => VB3?! ROFL!

    2. Re:CA & Thor Schmuck failed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      LOL NAPK burns you here --> http://apkhasmanboobs.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1631698&cid=32063990

      Where is your typing diploma APK? You don't "answer" because you don't have one! LOL!

  305. You burnt yourself ac troll (lol, no more Big O) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  306. You burnt yourself ac troll (no more Big O, lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  307. Right - why would APK do this too then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    Along with what you noted here as well http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41106049

  308. Right - why would APK do this too then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    Along with what you noted here as well http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41106049

  309. != VB3 & !=Netscape (you fail again ac troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  310. != VB3 & !=Netscape (you fail again ac troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  311. != VB3 & !=Netscape (you fail again ac troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  312. != VB3 & !=Netscape (you fail again ac troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  313. LOL NAPK showed you and is way smarter than you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Here ---> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41107859 NAPK wins again. Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't answer, because you don't have one! You can't even type "Schrock" you're so stupid.

  314. Why don't you answer APK? No typing diploma? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  315. APK can't spell but NAPK can ROFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Do you even have a Diploma in Typing APK? I notice you're avoiding NAPK's question. LOL! You don't say because you don't have it!

  316. Re:Eat your words (5core:2 1nquisitive) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's incredible. Actually, I'll give APK credit here, I would never have figured out the trick with Netscape in a million years. From my recollection, VB3 never really gave users access to sockets, and wasn't exactly fun to write extensions for in C++, so on the face of it this trick isn't as stupid as it looks. I'm surprised to find myself saying it, but I have to say based upon his use of Netscape 4 to download files for a VB3 program, APK is one smart cookie. My hat off to him.

  317. No more "Big O" (lol) & !VB3 + !Netscape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject-line above, consecutively http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101483 and http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    APK

    P.S.=> "Thank God it's Friday"...

    ... apk

  318. Re:No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): YOU started trolling... ap by crutchy · · Score: 1

    had a squiz at your hosts file program... most of us just use notepad or gedit, but whatever floats your boat... and 37+ Mb of memory!!! did you disable debug info in compile options (or directives)? either that or you just use one of the newer bloatware versions... i guess i'm just lucky i still use delphi 7.

    i develop mainly engineering software (flight test data analysis and structural code compliance, among others) for companies i've worked for using delphi and php... none public sorry

    refer to my other comment for the parse error (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41117989), since you asked

  319. Man, YOU are full of it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Refer to this, it shows the errors you're making -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    * See subject-line, + A & B below... they're fact!

    YOUR MISTAKES:

    ---

    A.) It's impossible for "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" to be written in Visual Basic 3.x (since that's a 16-bit development environs, & the program is 32-bit OR 64-bit, depending on the version you run AND THE DOWNLOAD PAGE SHOWS IT'S 64-bit) -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    AND

    B.) The http socket stream only "masks" itself as Netscape, but it's not netscape 4...

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, trolls like you are only stating what you are to *try* to "upset me", but you're only making yourselves look stupid (and I know, you could care less, since you're posting as ac's, hence WHY you are - so the stupidity of what you're saying doesn't "stick" to you personally)

    ... apk

  320. 'CruTcHy': I know - print "troll bs here"[::-1] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hey, stupid? I knew that already -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41085803

    From that link above -> print "troll bs here"[::-1]

    * Even simpler, & I put it out FAR earlier than you did, simpleton - proving I knew how it was done, but it's not REALLY coding doing it THAT way - only using a prebuilt function the PyThon language givse you...

    So, that all "said & aside" - As usual for you? LMAO - "YOU FAIL"...

    APK

    P.S.=> My original code, no "google" required mind you (which today's modern DOLT such as your limited self requires or you'd be helpless in computing, lol), worked JUST FINE on your "trollanguage/trollspeak", 'CruTcHy' (lol) ->

    ... apk

    1. Re:'CruTcHy': I know - print "troll bs here"[::-1] by crutchy · · Score: 1

      Hey, stupid? I knew that already

      the comment you link oesn't show anything about the indentation bug or a simpler way to code your string reversal... you were (before i highlighted it) completely ignorant of it (rotflmao!!!!), what is this "not really coding" bullshit... nice backpedal tard.

      you're an arrogant moron, and i caught you out on your code that you're so proud of.... hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

      P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk

      lol yeah unless it has a bug that you need someone else to find.... BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

      apk... the self-proclaimed ruler of programming, that took a whole 15 minutes to write a pointless bit of jibberish just to reverse a string... caught out with a bug in his posted code... THAT HE COULDN'T FIND!!!!!! OMG HOW FOOLISH MUST HE FEEL NOW !!!!!!

      P.S.=> "Onwards, & UPWARDS"... I RULE!

      yeah... you rule your own vagina

  321. No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): Great enough for it to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    JUST fine, vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    Delphi &/or C/C++ are my favorites - but, again: Python has its place as a decent enough scripting language (but it's a FAR cry from those languages I just noted).

    * Funny you couldn't find anything along the lines of me saying "I am the greatest programmer" as you insinutated/implied either...

    OH, & PRINT function usage for string reversal?

    Guess what?

    I posted that here LONG ago too, so, you fail there also, lol, 'CruTcHy' -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121375

    APK

    P.S.=> I use Python 2.71 here & the "IDLE" IDE (primitive stuff compared to Borland C++ Builder &/or Delphi XE, or Microsoft Visual Studio - like working with stone knives & bearskins)

    ... apk

  322. 'CruTcHy' - you blew it on the print statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "had a squiz at your hosts file program... most of us just use notepad or gedit, but whatever floats your boat." - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @10:47PM (#41119123)

    'CruTcHy', ok: Then, how do you get those to deduplicate/normalize 1,000's TO MILLIONS of records for you?

    (Notepad's not scriptable for it, is that gedit program? I don't use it, but somehow, I doubt it is...)

    That's what this program does for people, above ALL else!

    (& in under 1 minute if you have a FAST network connection for import of data, like FIOS)

    I.E.-> It makes that IMPOSSIBLE 'by hand' task, possible.

    ---

    "and 37+ Mb of memory!!!" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @10:47PM (#41119123)

    It's going to occupy that much memory (MORE, if it gets more data, & less, if it gets less data) - that's how it works, 'CruTcHy' (lol)...

    In fact, in case you hadn't guessed it, lol??

    That's how most ANY program that maps data to memory to process it works!

    Put it THIS way:

    I regularly have it work on 100++mb @ a time on "merging" the new data + the older hosts files custom records data (mostly for blocking adbanners, known malicious sites-servers/hosts-domains)... & that's currently @ 1,801,375++ & growing blocked off.

    ---

    "did you disable debug info in compile options (or directives)?" - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @10:47PM (#41119123)

    Yes, both in the IDE as well as inlined directives in the code itself...

    ---

    "either that or you just use one of the newer bloatware versions... i guess i'm just lucky i still use delphi 7." - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @10:47PM (#41119123)

    Delphi 2/3/5/7 were excellent - However, I use Delphi XE2 since it does 64-bit executables (those older ones won't) - & I wanted this to be the 1st 64-bit app of its type for Windows users...

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - You also blew it on the print statement too, I had noted its use already LONG ago here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121375

    ... apk

    1. Re:'CruTcHy' - you blew it on the print statement by crutchy · · Score: 1

      the only ounce of sense i got from your entire comment was that data explains the memory usage... fair enough (i didn't realize there would be much need for large data stored in memory for something as simple as a hosts file generator... even if you're downloading from a http server or something, and if you have an open file handle for writing out you shouldn't need to store the entire hosts file content in memory)

      maybe look at how you're storing the data... maybe use packed records. i can process gigabytes of flight test data without using much memory (data comes in, gets processed, and gets written out)

      and why the hell would you need a 64-bit program to generate hosts files? sounds like a bit of a dick waving stunt to me.... not surprising for you

  323. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligenc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) host also.

    Why would he create a security guide for Windows users then -> Showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if he were a malware author also?

    No, You've proven yourself wrong.

  324. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) host also.

    Why would he create a security guide for Windows users then if he were a malware author, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if he were a malware author also?

    No, You've proven yourself wrong and yes, guilty of libel because of your ridiculously false statements intended to defame apk.

  325. Is it my fault I made an excellent program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    That does the job in less than 1 minute for custom hosts file creation? Less than 1 minute IF you have a FAST network connection (ala FIOS), & if you omit the "convert & filter" stage (optional, but GUARANTEES pristine data, 100%... omitting it, I can only guarantee 98++%, but it too usually comes out 100% on import as well).

    One that's good enough to be featured on an exclusively 64-bit programs hosting site here:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    ??

    One that's good enough for 2 security-oriented sites (malwarebytes' hpHosts -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download &/or securemecca -> http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) that create custom hosts file data for import to host!

    That's done in BOTH 32-bit + 64-bit models???

    * Face it - you WISH you were me... lol!

    (It's not MY FAULT EITHER, that you're nothing but a "ne'er-do-well" ac troll...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, "onwards & upwards" - it's NOT EASY, being "world-class"... apk

  326. Re:Eat your words (5core:2 1nquisitive) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Yes. OK, sit down, because you're going to be amazed by this.

    It looks like the code invokes Netscape purely to download a bunch of lists of hosts files. Now, I know what you're saying, "Why not download them directly? And anyway, how much harder is it to interface with Netscape?"

    Well, here's the joke. All it does is launch Netscape to load those pages. Then after a delay, it plows through the entire cache looking for the pages that were just loaded! It then pulls the host names out of that cache!

    HTTP is EASY to implement. Why APK would do it this way is anyone's guess!

    Truth is stranger than fiction.

  327. Re:No, 'CruTcHy' (lol): Great enough for it to wor by crutchy · · Score: 1

    i don't even use an IDE for my php apps... i use gedit, which is basically windows notepad except with syntax highlighting

  328. 'CruTcHy' - now you steer clear of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I note you're not touching where you messed up on deduplication/normalization of the hosts data (realizing now that THAT is what this type of program does since managing hosts by text editors will NOT do that for you), and the print statement... additionally?

    "the only ounce of sense i got from your entire comment was that data explains the memory usage... fair enough" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:37PM (#41125725)

    Thank-You for conceding that to me. Amazing: You're able to see sense after all ("will wonders NEVER cease")...

    ---

    "even if you're downloading from a http server or something, and if you have an open file handle for writing out you shouldn't need to store the entire hosts file content in memory) maybe look at how you're storing the data" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:37PM (#41125725)

    The data comes in as raw text (and in different formats/layouts which IS THE BIGGEST PAIN), & from individual sources! Thus, it gets stored as such on disk @ first (by site it comes from so I can examine it IF needed - such as for filtering out either bad data, which yes, DOES happen... OR, for filters of the crap some hosts files makers put in the files bloating them).

    Thought about using BDE or other DB engines (like SQLite & doing a SELECT DISTINCT QUERY) to do the normalization-deduplication part too, but decided against it (too many moving parts to ship)... that, & the fact I knew I could design it WITHOUT having something else, a db engine, do the work for me.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "and why the hell would you need a 64-bit program to generate hosts files? sounds like a bit of a dick waving stunt to me.... not surprising for you" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:37PM (#41125725)

    Might as well go 64-bit is why (it ships wtih a 32-bit model too).

    Lastly - The only "dick waving" going on here is the fact I have actual programs in motion folks can see/use - you on the other hand, offer nothing but criticism & have nothing to show for yourself, by way of comparison

    ... apk

    1. Re:'CruTcHy' - now you steer clear of this? by crutchy · · Score: 1

      nobody but you gives a toss about a noob delphi program that creates a blacklist hosts file... even the form layout stinks of amateur

  329. Are you blind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "the comment you link oesn't show anything about the indentation bug or a simpler way to code your string reversal" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:22PM (#41125659)

    Sure it does... lol - see the SUBJECT-LINE of this post & see subject-line above here too, lol:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121375

    I was WELL aware of how that's done but again: Imo, doing that is NOT programming imo, if you're using built in functions (plus their call overheads) vs. writing routines yourself!

    Put it this way, & I said much the same in another post to you here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    I.E.-> I could have used SQLite or BDE to do a BIG PART of the work in this app (normalization/deduplication via SELECT DISTINCT SQL queries)... but, instead, I opted to DO IT MYSELF & have no extra moving parts or anyone else's work doing the work for me!

    ---

    "you're an arrogant moron, and i caught you out on your code that you're so proud of" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:22PM (#41125659)

    Proud of THAT tiny little python script? Wrong!

    I'm more proud of making YOU "eat your words" above, as well as more proud of THIS -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    ---

    "lol yeah unless it has a bug that you need someone else to find" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:22PM (#41125659)

    That's NO BUG, 'CruTcHy' (lol), it's an error YOU made, that YOU DIDN'T CATCH (an online debugger did and it's making an error too, lol) and funny how that Python code worked SO WELL AGAINST YOU & your "trollspeak/trollanguage" here in the link below next, eh? LMAO:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    Works like a charm there, eh? "110% bugfree & bulletproof" perfect in fact...

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "yeah... you rule your own vagina" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:22PM (#41125659)

    Ah, yes: Spoken by a "ne'er-do-well" that SAYS he programs but yet doesn't have a SINGLE THING TO SHOW ANYONE? Oh man, lmao - "please"...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Are you blind? by crutchy · · Score: 1

      why would i even bother with the interpreter unless i suspected a bug.... FOOL!!!!

      i found a bug in your posted code that you thought was perfect.... and YOU CAN'T STAND IT... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

      i'm happy now.... cheers fuckface

  330. gedit won't process hosts data correctly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Quoting you on this one, see my subject-line above, first:

    "i use gedit, which is basically windows notepad except with syntax highlighting" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @07:24PM (#41125669)

    Which leads to my subject-line above here now vs. this from you in another post regarding my work here:

    "had a squiz at your hosts file program... most of us just use notepad or gedit, but whatever floats your boat." - by crutchy (1949900) on Friday August 24, @10:47PM (#41119123) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41119123

    Which PER MY SUBJECT-LINE ABOVE proves I was correct on gedit also - it's NOT scriptable, & thus, just like notepad.exe, won't PROPERLY process custom hosts file data doing:

    ---

    1.) Deduplication/Normalization
    2.) Sorting of data
    3.) Filtration of bulk useless junk characters & comments

    & more (like write protecting the hosts file every 1/2 second)...

    ---

    * Ah, yes - it is NOT easy, being "World-Class", like me, I tell you... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hence (again) WHY I built this program in both 32-bit AND 64-bit form to do it:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    And, it does it FAST (under 1 minute if you have a FIOS connection & omit doing the optional "convert & filter" stage)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:gedit won't process hosts data correctly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      i know enough to make my own hosts, hosts.allow/deny, iptables script, etc without using noob delphi bloatware

      and my hosts file doesn't need protecting every half second

      you're a world class douchebag

  331. You don't get it, do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    My code's perfect vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=41048903 &, did the job on YOU, quite PERFECTLY... lol!

    (No bug in that output, now is there? Nope... that's the BOTTOM-LINE of any app - does it take in data & process it, correctly!)

    * You made a mistake & because of it, so did that online debugger (which MAY also be operating on Python 3.x, rather than the 2.7x version I use which has less issues by far, or @ least, last time I looked into it over 2++ yrs. ago by now iirc).

    APK

    P.S.=> 'CruTcHy', take a good look @ yourself in a mirror:

    http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

    LMAO!

    Realize 1 thing: You WISH you were me...

    ... apk

    1. Re:You don't get it, do you? by crutchy · · Score: 1

      python relies on left indentation... you didn't indent the print statement in the for loop in your posted code... i don't care if it worked in your interpreter... the fact is YOUR POSTED CODE HAD A BUG, and you couldn't find it before I did HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! suck shit dickwad... i wouldn't know but i imagine it sux to be pwned like you are right now

  332. Security pros disagree... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "nobody but you gives a toss about a noob delphi program that creates a blacklist hosts file..." - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:15PM (#41126205)

    First of all - YOU certainly do, and you don't have one of your own to show by way of comparison either, lol (you're a lot of TALK, nothing more)...

    Secondly, per my subject-line above? Well, the folks in the security community do, & decided to host it on malwarebytes'/HpHosts website:

    http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download

    As did another member of the security community who produces custom hosts file data (& other things like IE TPL's iirc):

    http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html

    (Opinions vary, & from folks out there attempting to HELP OTHERS by their efforts, in creating custom hosts file data!)

    ---

    "even the form layout stinks of amateur" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:15PM (#41126205)

    Well, bitch all you LIKE, but you blew it on:

    A.) The print statement & Python (which I knew of)
    B.) gedit & text editors being unable to PROPERLY deduplicate/normalize, sort, & filter custom hosts file data, + FAR more
    C.) Not having any wares of your own anyone can see or try/use (much less critique)...

    (And, more, on YOUR end... lol!)

    So "the code with no lines has no bugs" & thus, 'CruTcHy' can say he writes "bug free code" @ least, lmao... even though it does ZERO too!

    APK

    P.S.=> I had a HUGE debate with a co-worker once, gave me the same guff you are now (shareware/freeware is easy): Well, I am going to tell him the SAME I am telling you, now - It has to run on EVERY SYSTEM UNDER THE SUN, whereas ones that are for information systems for a particular company, don't... the hardware is uniform, & so is the OS + software environs in that setting. It's NOT that way, when you "send it out into the wild" to run on EVERY SYSTEM OUT THERE, perfectly... apk

    1. Re:Security pros disagree... apk by crutchy · · Score: 1

      you can bullshit all you like.... you're pwned on the python script in two ways (first the indentation bug, which i found first, and second the complexity of something that should have been so simple, which highlights how much of a noob you are)

      hosts is useful, but no as much as a proper firewall like iptables, and a blacklist hosts will always be prone to any kind of zero day attack as much as anything else that relies on a blacklist

      you're an amateur freetard who likes to blow smoke out his ass as one of the most infamous slashdot trolls

  333. /. formatting error (not I)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject-line above & again, this vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=41048903 &, it did the job on YOU, quite PERFECTLY... lol!

    (Which, of course, proves my point via literally concrete, visible, verifiable AND UNDENIABLE, proof... lol!)

    I.E.-> It works just FINE when run in the IDLE ide for Python, & of course, in practice (vs. YOUR "trollspeak/trollanguage", lol!).

    At least NOW, you finally spotted YOUR ERROR (in how you pasted the code into that debugger online), finally... lol!

    ---

    As far as THIS little "tidbit" laced with "FruStRaTeD" profanity from you? Ok:

    "the fact is YOUR POSTED CODE HAD A BUG, and you couldn't find it before I did HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! suck shit dickwad... i wouldn't know but i imagine it sux to be pwned like you are right now" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:24PM (#41126245)

    So far, your errors list vs. myself have been:

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    and more...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're just outgunned, out-thought, and yes, now OUTNUMBERED too - & outclassed too, of course... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:/. formatting error (not I)... apk by crutchy · · Score: 1

      i found a bug in your posted code before you could and no amount of bitchslapping from you is going to change that fact... you're just going to have to live with it

  334. "CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "i know enough to make my own hosts, hosts.allow/deny, iptables script, etc without using noob delphi bloatware" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25, @09:47PM (#41126353)

    Yea? GOOD LUCK deduplicating out bogus unneeded entries & the bloating comment crap (tons of it) many makers of custom hosts files insert then...

    Doing it by hand using text editors?

    LMAO - Trust me, you'll be at it, by hand, using primitive editors until DOOMSDAY for only 1 day's worth of data imported, never mind keeping up on it (you wouldn't be able to), lol!

    Computers are GREAT @ 2 things, which definitely apply here to custom hosts file processing: Speed & automation of drudgerous long tasks...

    ---

    "and my hosts file doesn't need protecting every half second" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25, @09:47PM (#41126353)

    Considering the malware situation out there online today? Don't count on it...

    The hosts file IS a "HUGE" target for misdirection of users online (the QHosts virus does that for example, along with MANY others).

    * You lose again, 'CruTcHy' (though your posting as ac now instead of your usual)...

    --- ,b>So far, your errors list vs. myself have been:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so).

    ---

    and more... you FAIL, 'CruTcHy', you fail (many times, vs. "lil' ole me", lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're just outgunned, out-thought, and yes, now OUTNUMBERED too - & outclassed too, of course... lol!

    1. Re:"CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      you use windows... i use linux... hence your need for all your hosts bullshit... and why my hosts file is already secure and why i surf the web without a worry

  335. "CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (not) part deux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you can bullshit all you like" by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    No bullshit here @ all -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 , just facts!

    Facts like the FACT my python code worked PERFECTLY vs. your "trollanguage/trollspeak" here, now didn't it? Yes, it did -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 rotflmao...

    Hahahahaha!

    ---

    Facts like your "greatest hits" so far vs. myself in your errors:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so).

    ---

    and more... you FAIL, 'CruTcHy', you fail (many times, vs. "lil' ole me", lol)...

    ---

    "complexity of something that should have been so simple, which highlights how much of a noob you are" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    Yea, well... I write my OWN code inlined with NO FUNCTION CALL OVERHEADS, unlike NOOB googlers like YOU that ream others' work online (which you showed us you do), and my code works (see link above, lol)... & I have code others can try/see/use - YOU, by way of comparison? Do NOT!

    Just like I could have used BDE or SQLite to do the IMPOSSIBLE TASK of custom hosts file mgt. in deduplication/normalization by hand - but wrote it, myself, for less moving parts & less hassles...

    The job of which which YOU said you do in text editors?

    LMAO... you'd be @ it, until doomsday, to get perfectly efficient hosts file data - period!

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "hosts is useful, but no as much as a proper firewall like iptables, and a blacklist hosts will always be prone to any kind of zero day attack as much as anything else that relies on a blacklist" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    Good - I am GLAD you see the benefits in hosts files (I am going to quote you on that from now on in fact, thank you, as part of the folks @ /. who use custom hosts files or see their value for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs))...

    However (& this is where you /. trolls go wrong vs. myself, every time - I have never, EVER, said even once, hosts are the only thing you need/end-all-be-all of security online):

    They're only a SMALL PART of what I do, "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" though, see here (I wrote the VERY FIRST security guides for Windows NT-based OS users, mind you):

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH

    ---

    "you're an amateur freetard who likes to blow smoke out his ass as one of the most infamous slashdot trolls" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    Judging by the fact you've called me 'douchebag', & worse? Your "FrUsTrAtioN" @ getting your butt kicked by me @ every turn is showing through... lol, I LOVE IT!

    You're a profanity spouting troll, nothing more... than

  336. "CruTcHy", why're you posting as ac now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you use windows... i use linux..." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25, @10:00PM (#41126439)

    You use Linux & yet called ME a "freetard"? Please.... lol:

    "you're an amateur freetard who likes to blow smoke out his ass as one of the most infamous slashdot trolls" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    Sorry to point out another FACT, 'CruTcHy', but YOU CAME IN HERE TROLLING ME -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051801

    (So, so much for THAT line of utter bullshit outta you, again... lol!)

    AND, you said hosts are useful too

    "hosts is useful" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    Thanks again for THAT - it's going to come in HANDY showing that one of my naysayer/detractor troll types actually finds hosts files, useful... lol!

    Ah, yes - with 'CruTcHy' (see his portrait here, lol -> ), "CONTRADICTIONS ABOUND!"

    That... along with his "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) vs. myself, listed here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126527

    * Yes, folks: It is NOT easy being "world-class" like me... especially not when all I have as naysayers are "/. trolls", like 'CruTcHy', lol...

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

    This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'", & it always is, vs. noobs like "CruTcHy", lol

    ... apk

  337. Re:"CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (not) part de by crutchy · · Score: 1

    i found a bug in your posted code before you could and no amount of bitchslapping from you is going to change that fact.... you're just going to have to live with it

  338. "CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (not) & FACT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    FACT: My python code worked PERFECTLY vs. your "trollanguage/trollspeak" here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    (You made an error pasting it into an online debugger & your paste job didn't have spaces in it - which you can thank the /. forums engine for too, lol, no less!)

    ---

    Facts like your "greatest hits" so far vs. myself in your errors:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so).

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!).

    ---

    and more... , you fail (many times, vs. "lil' ole me", lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Those are just facts... apk

  339. "CruTcHy"' greatest hits part III (not) & fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    FACT: My python code worked PERFECTLY vs. your "trollanguage/trollspeak" here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    (You made an error pasting it into an online debugger & your paste job didn't have spaces in it - which you can thank the /. forums engine for too, lol, no less!)

    ---

    Facts like your "greatest hits" so far vs. myself in your errors:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so).

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!).

    ---

    and more... Vs. ME? Hey - you FAIL, 'CruTcHy', you fail (many times, vs. "lil' ole me", lol)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Those, are just facts - you've been outnumbered, out-skilled, & just plain OUT-THOUGHT, & you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style::

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"...lol!

    ... apk

  340. Re:"CruTcHy"'s truly "greatest hits" (not) & F by crutchy · · Score: 1
    have another read of my comment that first points out where the bug is (before you hahaha)... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41117989

    the code paste in http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41091833 was merely to point to the code that you posted... the code that was actually pasted into the interpreter was copied and pasted verbatim from your post, with indents

    go back and have a look at the code you posted...
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    the bug is there... on the fifth line

    if i pasted the code without any indents at all, a parse error would have been thrown for line 2... it wouldn't have gotten as far as line 5

    so, like i said, your code may have worked perfectly in your interpreter, but the code as posted IN YOUR COMMENT (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117) had the bug, so the bug was not mine

    it wouldn't even be a big deal, except that you can't help but make it a big deal with things like...

    P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk

    ...so if your going to make dipshit comments like that, at least have a look over the code you post, because otherwise you're just begging to be pwned (as you are now)

  341. Bug? The program works just FINE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "your code may have worked perfectly in your interpreter" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday August 26, @06:38AM (#41128251)

    You KNOW that: See -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (rotflmao - even IF that came @ YOUR expense, it works... & "my interpreter"? I didn't build Python 2.71...)

    ---

    "but the code as posted IN YOUR COMMENT (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117) had the bug, so the bug was not mine" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday August 26, @06:38AM (#41128251)

    Hey - I can't help it if /.'s forums engine messes up when I paste in code that works here just fine, see above, again, as proof (and it's not the 1st bug I've caught in /.'s forums engine either, caught another in THIS VERY THREAD)

    AND?

    I also can't help it that YOU pasted it into an online interpreter that way (YOUR error)...

    * Thus? You FAIL, again... lol, but, then again?? That's nothing NEW to you, now is it??? See below... rotflmao!

    APK

    P.S.=> "CruTcHy"'s (lol -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg ) truly "greatest hits" (NOT!) part III:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not.

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it)

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so).

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!).

    ---

    and more...

    Man - you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style":

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"... & it always is, vs. /. "trolls", like 'CruTcHy' (lol)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Bug? The program works just FINE! by crutchy · · Score: 0

      I also can't help it that YOU pasted it into an online interpreter that way (YOUR error)

      i copied and pasted it VERBATIM from YOUR post... hence... YOUR ERROR

      you keep living in your delusion though... its all here on your permanent slashdot record for everyone to read :)

  342. 'CruTcHy' (lol) wrote the book on "how to fail" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  343. "CruTcHy"'s NEW BOOK "how to FAIL" (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  344. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  345. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  346. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  347. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  348. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  349. 'CruTcHy' (lol) & his new book "How to FAIL" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "you wrote the book on how to be a homo" - by 'CruTcHy' the TROLL -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg (1949900) on Monday August 20, @03:32AM (#41051811) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051811

    See subject-line & these 8 "greatest hits" (lol, NOT) of yours:

    ---

    1.) I have working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED you find hosts files useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 host my program for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * and more - perhaps I ought to make it a SOLID "10" of them, in your FAILS list above... lmao!

    (You came in here "trolling", 'CruTcHy' -> (lol) http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

  350. LOL, your partial quote "backfired" on you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Sure it does - I've been doing it for YEARS now! If/when you have a relatively LARGER hosts file, it begins to "lag" the faulty local DNS clientside cache in Windows (this is 1 THING I will give Linux, hands-down, over Windows in fact... Linux has no such hassles/issues with larger custom hosts files).

    "Turning off the DNS cache doesn't eliminate the problem. It merely increases the size of the hosts file that can be used before the slowdown becomes noticeable. Yes, it needs to be a huge hosts file, but it's still going to be a problem. - by cbiltcliffe (186293) on Saturday August 25, @11:38PM (#41126917) Homepage

    Ahem: Hate to tell you this, but IF YOU READ THE SOURCE from mvps.org properly? You'd know it works (as does the other technique I noted on DNS settings -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41093025 )...

    * Additionally - YES, it permanently stops the problem with Windows' KNOWN FAULTY WITH LARGER HOSTS FILES local clientside DNS cache service... period!

    (LMAO - too bad your partial quote attempt "backfired" on you, eh, cbiltcliffe? No shame in getting your ass kicked by me, after all: I RULE & most especially on the topic here: Custom hosts files...!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You failed again, cbiltcliffe - vs. "yours truly" & so, you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-inimitable style:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"... lol, always is, vs. noob rookies like cbiltcliffe...

    ... apk

  351. You FAILED yet again cbiltcliffe (vs yours truly) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  352. You FAILED yet again cbiltcliffe (vs yours truly) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  353. cbiltcliffe FAILS again (on DNS cache service) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297

    APK

    P.S.=> Hence his hurling off-topic illogical WEAK failing ad hominem attack attempts laced with profanities (out of his "FruStrAtiOn" @ gettting his ass handed to him, YET AGAIN, by "yours truly")... lol!

    ... apk

  354. cbiltcliffe FAILS again (on DNS cache service) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297

    APK

    P.S.=> Hence his hurling off-topic illogical WEAK failing ad hominem attack attempts laced with profanities (out of his "FruStrAtiOn" @ gettting his ass handed to him, YET AGAIN, by "yours truly")... lol!

    ... apk

  355. My program runs fine! It has no bugs (proof) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Proof anyone can verify for themselves per my subject -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    * That show's ANYONE it's a fine running machine, like all my programs are...

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "you keep living in your delusion though..." - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday August 26, @05:31PM (#41131821)

    Oh, my proving my program works JUST FINE, vs. you SAYING it has an error? That's no delusion on MY part... I back it with solid enough proof above, lol!

    ---

    "its all here on your permanent slashdot record for everyone to read :)" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday August 26, @05:31PM (#41131821)

    Right... along with YOUR "greatest hits" listed below here, again:

    ---

    1.) I made working code that does the job perfectly (in both the python & delphi apps), you do not -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 and of course, this too -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057
    (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, starting up your trolling b.s. -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    ... apk

    1. Re:My program runs fine! It has no bugs (proof) by crutchy · · Score: 0

      your posted code had a bug... hahahahahaha!!!!! sore loser... and it will be here forever for me to link to whenever you proclaim your code is awesome in the future

      line 5 of the code in http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

      python indentation bug!!!!! lmfao!!!

      poor apk got pwned by someone who's never programmed python before, but obviously has more delphi experience because apk's delphi hosts app sucks balls

      and wtf is the greatest hits... is that supposed to be some kind of proof that you're better than me or something? quite sad then for you that it doesn't... it just demonstrates how desperate you are for credibility and how much you need to market whatever skills you think you have because your work doesn't speak for itself (i've seen it, it sucks, so its obvious why you need to market it however deluded you are in thinking I would ever actually use it)

      you are one sad, sad little man, and I eagerly await your bullshit reply :)

  356. Truth IS stranger than YOUR fiction(s) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    APK

    P.S.=> Trolls: You continually "blow it", vs. myself - See above, & accept it...

    ... apk

  357. IF my program has a bug why'd it run right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    1.) See my subject-line's question & answer vs. this -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (which IS PROOF my program ran perfectly, vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage" - that also shows you came in here "trolling" starting it up also)...

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, plus starting up your trolling b.s. (shown in #1 above) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    * I can literally demonstrate your screwups in quotes where I captured them... and you say my program has a bug?

    Funny - my program runs PERFECTLY, as shown in #1 above - explain that!

    APK

    P.S.=> You did the above mistakes, clearly, since links point to the EXACT things I noted in the enumerated list above... & all the name tossing in the WORLD isn't going to change what can be literally seen above...

    ... apk

  358. 'CruTcHy' (lol) - are you a malware maker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Being insulted by malware authors can be the best reward:

    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/24/sophos-sucks-malware/?utm_source=Naked+Security+-+Sophos+List&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=86a68ce746-naked%252Bsecurity

    * I'd *think* that THAT is your "motivation" here in fact...

    That, along with YOU being EMBARASSED HERE, badly, by myself with your list of YOUR "greatest hits" (lol, not):

    ---

    1.) Again: IF my program has a "bug", how come it ran PERFECTLY here vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage"? Hmmm?? -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (which IS also PROOF you came in here "trolling" starting it up also)...

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, plus starting up your trolling b.s. (shown in #1 above) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    (You made those mistakes, not I... & all you have, is some b.s. that my program has a "bug"? LMAO! Sure, sure (sarcasm) - disprove what's in #1 above then... good luck, you'll NEED it!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Once more: IF my program has a "bug", then how come it ran PERFECTLY vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage" here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 where you came in here trolling?

    Hmmm??

    Answer that question...

    ... apk

    1. Re:'CruTcHy' (lol) - are you a malware maker? by crutchy · · Score: 0
      your code... AS POSTED in comment http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 has a bug that you caused by not indenting properly, regardless of how well it runs... your code AS POSTED was buggy, because you were too lazy and smug to assume you could ever post code without bugs.... and you blame it on Slashdot.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! you were the one doing the indenting, not slashdot... and its not that slashdot didn't recognize your indents, you just left one out rotflmao!!!

      i think you know you fucked up.... you commented twice... you must be pissed :)

      so, for future reference, link to APK's buggy code can be found here... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

      P.S.=> "Onwards, & UPWARDS"... I RULE!

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41108351

      P.S.=> Care to tell us what the "parse error" was, 'CruTcHy'? I doubt you even know, & the funniest part is, YOU caused it... lol!

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104873

      P.S.=> You did a stupid thing when you sent it thru that code checker, & what makes me laugh MOST? You don't SEE it

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41103069

      P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055113

      if you post any more code on slashdot and then brag about how well he thinks it works, perhaps i'll remind you how fallable "his lordship" really is lol

      you accuse me of causing a bug that you obviously couldn't see until i pointed it out...lol you thought i pasted it into an interpreter without any indents, without thinking about how i could possibly get an error on line 5 instead of line 2... typical arrogant noob mistake

      cheers apk, and thankyou... you have provided me with plenty of entertainment this week :)

  359. Re:Eat your words (5core:5 1nciteful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that explains why it takes over ten minutes to process a few million hostnames!

  360. LOL APK VB3 programmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK the VB3 "God" Proof here -> http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=17785597#p17785597

    Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL you don't have one!

  361. 'CruTcHy' (lol) - THAT's what I wanted to see! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "regardless of how well it runs" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 27, @05:53PM (#41142547)

    Aha: YOU ADMIT my code works, so... how can it be "buggy"?

    Face it:

    * You fail... lol, as per your usual!

    APK

    P.S.=> Your usual? Well, let's see now, vs. myself... lol:

    ---

    1.) Again: IF my program has a "bug", how come it ran PERFECTLY here vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage"? Hmmm?? -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (which IS also PROOF you came in here "trolling" starting it up also)...

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, plus starting up your trolling b.s. (shown in #1 above) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC TROLL!

    ---

    ... apk

    1. Re:'CruTcHy' (lol) - THAT's what I wanted to see! by crutchy · · Score: 0

      learn to read... twit

  362. Big TALK, from a "ne'er-do-well" (nothing more) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It only takes 1 minute (if you skip the optional "Convert & Filter", only draw new data, & IF you have a FAST network connection, like FIOS!)...

    * You blew it - since I outlined it here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977

    (Thus? I truly DO "get the last laugh..." vs. ac troll "ne'er-do-wells" such as yourself, as always!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes - It takes SOME NERVE to "talk a big game" & be a critic too (and screwup like you did here, lol -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41102153 )

    Additionally: You have nothing like this program, & certainly NOT in GUI form either -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    You're NOTHING, but talk... and screwups, see links above, lol... apk

  363. APK forced to eat his own words! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    NAPK showed APK here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41098343

    Why does APK keep dodging the question about his typing diploma? LOL it's because he doesn't have one! Hence he can't even spell "Schrock" properly. APK is just a "ne'er-do-well" who thinks he can run a business but doesn't even have the ability to spell words like a CEO ROFL.

  364. No 'CruTcHy': You learn to read (you failed) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Your list of "fails" vs. myself, all 10 of them by this point, lol:

    ---

    1.) Again: IF my program has a "bug", how come it ran PERFECTLY here vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage"? Hmmm?? -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (which IS also PROOF you came in here "trolling" starting it up also)...

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421 [slashdot.org]

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, plus starting up your trolling b.s. (shown in #1 above) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC "ne'er-do-well" TROLL!

    9.) LASTLY - YOU ADMIT MY PYTHON PROGRAM WORKS:

    "regardless of how well it runs" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 27, @05:53PM (#41142547)

    Aha: There we have it - YOU ADMIT my code works, so... how can it be "buggy"?

    10.) 10th would be that a "ne'er-do-well" TALKER like you even attempted to critique my work... you, with ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF!

    ---

    Face it:

    * You fail... lol, as per your usual!

    APK

    P.S.=> Thus, well... you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - always is, vs. noob "ne'er-do-well" trolls like 'CruTcHy' (lol) -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

    ... apk

  365. LOL! NAPK wins, APK forced to admit he's wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NAPK showed APK here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41098343

    Why does APK keep dodging the question about his typing diploma? LOL it's because he doesn't have one! Hence he can't even spell "Schrock" properly. APK is just a "ne'er-do-well" who thinks he can run a business but doesn't even have the ability to spell words like a CEO ROFL

  366. LOL NAPK burns APK, makes him "EAT" his words! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK, VB programmer extraordinaire! -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41136175 has to admit he can't even spell simple names and doesn't have a typing diploma! LOL

    Visual BASIC 3? LOL! No wonder his python code is so bad! He should give up arguing with this NAPK person, whoever he is, and learn to cook big O ring style fries ROFL

    Give up APK, NAPK is always going to win in the end! LOL ROFL BOB!

  367. CA felons (SEC) sold their security suite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Thor Schmuck + CA felons & their asses handed to 'em -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

  368. CA felons (SEC filed) sold their security suite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Thor Schmuck + CA felons: Their asses handed to 'em -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

  369. No YOU "blew it" totally, lol (see inside stupid) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Impossible it's VB/Netscape fool -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989 the download page for it shows it is a 64-bit TRUE x64 application -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 & VB3 couldn't even generate 32-bit code - much less 64-bit code, & the socketstream I use? Masks itself as Netscape, stupid!

    * LMAO: Face it - you're JUST NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to ever, EVER get the better of myself... fact, which the above, establishes cleanly!

    (Plus, lastly - My python code works, & 'CruTcHy' admitted it does, you ac trolling FOOL, lol!)

    Now, what's that you said, ac troll? Oh yes, here we go:

    "Give up APK, NAPK is always going to win in the end! LOL ROFL BOB!" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 28, @03:53PM (#41155109)

    Clearly, you lie again since I just handed you YOUR ASS above, lol... easily - TOO easily in fact!

    APK

    P.S.=> As per your usual ac trolling fool? YOU FAIL, miserably... on doltish technical mistakes no less, lol!

    ... apk

  370. Not MS: metrix007 & LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

  371. You FAILED cbiltcliffe (on DNS cache service) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Downmodding to hide it now? I won't allow it -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297

  372. 'CruTcHy' & his new book "How to FAIL" (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Your list of "fails" vs. myself, all 10 of them by this point, lol:

    ---

    1.) Again: IF my program has a "bug", how come it ran PERFECTLY here vs. your "trollspeak/trollanguage"? Hmmm?? -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117 (which IS also PROOF you came in here "trolling" starting it up also)...

    2.) You conceded memory usage with loaded data (where first you criticized me for it & withdrew it) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057

    3.) You BLEW IT on the print statement -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126057 (yes, I proved I was well aware of it, but unlike YOU, google-boy/googler? I do my OWN work & write my own inlined code vs. function call overheads & control actually - same reason I didn't use BDE or SQLite - I did the work, myself, perfectly!)

    4.) The fact that the hosts file DOES need protecting (UAC ACL & write protect help do so) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126421

    5.) You ADMITTED hosts files are useful (which I will find very useful in the future, thank you!) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126661

    6.) 2 significant folks in the security field who create custom hosts file data host my GUI program in malwarebytes' hpHosts & securemecca -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41126285 for custom hosts file creation & mgt.... and you said nobody gives a hoot about my program (seems you do, & fail vs. it, and there's these security folks also).

    7.) Text Editors like notepad.exe &/or gedit will NOT handle properly processing hosts file data fully, which YOU had to be "schooled in" also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121573

    8.) You had to be reminded of what the topic is here (hosts) since you were trolling calling me homo, retard, & such, plus starting up your trolling b.s. (shown in #1 above) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104817 YOU OFF-TOPIC "ne'er-do-well" TROLL!

    9.) LASTLY - YOU ADMIT MY PYTHON PROGRAM WORKS:

    "regardless of how well it runs" - by crutchy (1949900) on Monday August 27, @05:53PM (#41142547)

    Aha: There we have it - YOU ADMIT my code works, so... how can it be "buggy"?

    10.) 10th would be that a "ne'er-do-well" TALKER like you even attempted to critique my work... you, with ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF!

    ---

    Face it:

    * You fail... lol, as per your usual!

    APK

    P.S.=> Thus, well... you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - always is, vs. noob "ne'er-do-well" trolls like 'CruTcHy' (lol) -> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__14_55_54/krusty2.jpg77ff0be1-1495-4461-ad17-20a3f3e20b88Larger.jpg

    ... apk

  373. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for him in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    Why would he also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if he were a malware author also?

    No, You've proven yourself wrong.

  374. Wrong troll (only takes ~ 1 minute) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Whatever you're doing is horribly, horribly inefficient, and you still haven't explained why." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @12:25PM (#41111127)

    Ahem: I did long ago: You blew it - since I outlined it here, already -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977

    (What's the matter? Your "dyslexia/ADD-ADHD addled brain" miss it?? You're not showing myself, or anyone else here, any different because you missed that)...

    * YOU FAIL - learn to read, ac troll...

    You're NOTHING, but talk... and screwups, see links below on VB3 & Netscape (man - you really screwed the pooch there, lol)!

    Now, of course? You'll downmod this post, as you have all my others via your registered "luser" account, & repeat your same bullshit you did here, once again, since you've defeated yourself once more as usual! Predictable as ever... same old TROLL crap, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Just to "refresh your dull brain" per the link above? Here goes:

    Per my subject-line above: IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE, many times less, if you skip the optional "Convert & Filter" + only draw new data from sites that actually DID update (& IF you have a FAST network connection, like FIOS!)... no point in drawing in data you already have!

    MOST times, it's LESS than 1 minute in fact (depending on the SIZE of the new data, and if it is needed - you don't NEED to draw data from hosts files' makers sites if they're NOT updated!) and, most of the time? The data is PERFECT from them too!

    (That is, unless they alter their site, because a couple of them demanded I do "screen scrapes" instead of file draws/downloads - the latter, never change in structure - the former could, but I have not seen that ever, in 9++ yrs. of running this program here - I take NO chances though, & as I said before to you? I ELIMINATE THAT UNCERTAINTY, simply by putting in the optional "convert & filter" button stage of the 2nd tab titled "Normalize ->"!)

    This FACT ALONE blows away your "Big O" bullshit you *tried* to throw @ me, you amateur...

    However/Again: I only guarantee absolute PERFECT DATA when & IF you run that optional step (not always needed though - you only need that on daily intakes of NEW data and not always either on files already in the correct format - not full merges with older hosts data you have, since you would have sanitized all new data, first, building it into your "merged final"... doing that, the old data is sanitized already, & the new data gets it right off the bat...)

    Still - I recommend, highly, performing that step on NEW data drawn in (though many times, it's NOT needed @ all), because as I said before to you? "Data Perfection, REIGNS!" Especially with file based data... period!

    ---

    Yes - It takes SOME NERVE to "talk a big game" & be a critic too (and screwup like you did here, lol -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41102153 )

    Additionally: You've made nothing like this program, & certainly NOT in GUI form either -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    ...apk

  375. You FAIL again on ALL 5 points, ac troll (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker since I did the above 2 bolded items.

    You fail.

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s., lol... troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time.

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst... so, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    Funny part is?

    2 of the companies you listed?? I worked for AND WITH them, lol...

    1 in BellSouth, during the 1996 Olympics doing "the impossible" to let their workers work from home, to avoid traffic in Atlanta Ga., doing a RAS setup thru an Ascend Gateway, that worked perfectly!

    They said "can't be done" IN THOSE "halcyon days of yore", but the team I worked with @ BellSouth from DEC & I, did it (133mhz Pentium I laptops with 32mb RAM on NT 3.51!).

    (Ac troll, face it - I was "doing the impossible" while you were STILL IN DIAPERS in this field... & your screwups above, prove that, easily... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" accounts, & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + sta

  376. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    He created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for him in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    Why would he also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if he were a malware author also?

    No, You've proven yourself wrong.

  377. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" troll (U FAILED agai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717

    * Too bad I had to "blow you away" with FACTS, again (lmao - gotta be the 4th or 5th time now too)...

    It's PURELY your own stupidity in NOT reading that I outlined how to run my app in under a minute... lol!

    ---

    You're VERY PREDICTABLE TOO, since I stated this, and like usual? You downmodded it (trollish b.s., nothing more):

    "Now, of course? You'll downmod this post, as you have all my others via your registered "luser" account, & repeat your same bullshit you did here, once again, since you've defeated yourself once more as usual! Predictable as ever... same old TROLL crap, lol! - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 29, @12:20AM (#41161717)

    From http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717

    (So it draws it into view again, vs. your bogus downmod)

    ---

    So, like your usual, vs. myself? Well - "EAT YOUR WORDS", troll! Rotflmao...

    (Especially now that they're flavored with "the bitter taste of defeat" & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH TOO, lol... too easy!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I prove you wrong as usual, & what does a troll like YOU do? Downmod it, to *try* to "hide" your utter failure... lol

      Man - HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF?

    It's not like others can't see it (then again, you post as ac so I can't throw this self-defeat of yours back in your face - you've obviously learned THAT lesson before, haven't you?? Yes, YOU have, rotflmao... it's VERY obvious!)...

    ... apk

  378. No, troll: "Eat YOUR words" (U FAIL again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41155219

    * Tell us - HOW DO YOUR WORDS TASTE, now that they're flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, too?

    (ROTFLMAO!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, yes: As-per-my-usual "inimitable style"? You just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - especially vs. trolls that blow it badly in the light of FACTS I use, & then they "downmod my post" to *try* to "hide" their own SELF-DEFEAT... lol! Predictable troll b.s., nothing more...

    ... apk

  379. "Eat your words" troll (U FAILED again), lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download [hosts-file.net] & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html [hostsfile.org] ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    Funny part is?

    2 of the companies you listed??

    I worked for AND WITH them, lol...

    As far back as 1996 - 1 in BellSouth, during the 1996 Olympics doing "the impossible" to let their workers work from home, to avoid traffic in Atlanta Ga., doing a RAS setup thru an Ascend Gateway, over 56k modelsm, that worked perfectly!)

    They said "can't be done" IN THOSE "halcyon days of yore", but the team I worked with @ BellSouth, from DEC & I, did it (133mhz Pentium I laptops with 32mb RAM on NT 3.51 + 56k US Robotics modems iirc!).

    (Ac troll, face it - I was "doing the impossible" in the art & science of computing, while you were STILL IN DIAPERS... & your screwups above, prove that, easily... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single ti

  380. "Eat your words" troll (U FAIL again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

    1. Re:"Eat your words" troll (U FAIL again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:

      #1 Typing diploma APK?

      * Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!

      You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO! [youtube.com]

      #2 Python skills

      "Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423 [slashdot.org]

      #3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe

      * LOL Malware APK?

      The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"

      #4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL

      Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.

      ---

      Proof of the efficacious of CA

      CA [ca.com] [ca.com]
      PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
      SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
      Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
      Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
      Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

      CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

      ---

      Real computer experts and users on APK:

      Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"

      Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."

      "Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "

      Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"

      Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."

      Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society and has proven himself to be a drain on the productivity for the millions of IT workers worldwide that spend so much

  381. "Eat your words", troll (U FAIL, again, lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    By the way?

    Yes - I code VB, .NET. C/C++/C#, Delphi Object-Pascal, Assembly (various platforms), JAVA, Fortran, COBOL, & more (scripting languages like Python, DOS Batch, + more).

    So much for your typical "ne'er-do-well" b.s. above, eh?

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk /b

  382. LOL APK gets ASS HANDED TO HIM by NAPK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41136175 and Here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41098343

    APK wannabe "VB" programmer doesn't even have a typing diploma, and admits he doesn't know what Big O is. NAPK: 100. APK: 0. NAPK wins again!

  383. You FAIL troll - "Eat your words" (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  384. APK flails but cannot win against SUPERIOR NAPK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LOL APK still refuses to release his long form typing diploma, probably because he doesn't have one.

    Also does the last line of this song have something to do with APK? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1QRtcWdEY&playnext_from=TL&videos=zuLMrNX05TU

    LOL! Even Conway Twitty has the last laugh when it comes to APK!

  385. APK blows it again! LOL ROFL BYOB! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." - Edsger Dijkstra

    "(Plus, lastly - My python code works, & 'CruTcHy' admitted it does, you ac trolling FOOL, lol!)" -- by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-28 16:18 (#41155629)

    LOL Mr Smartypants APK doesn't even have a typing diploma and is in no position to tell whether someone else said what he thinks he said!

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com]

      PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com]

      SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")

      Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net]

      Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es]

      Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up"! You can't even shut up as you don't have a typing diploma!

    --

    Do you have a typing diploma APK? CAn you even spell the surnames of major, real, business people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Thor Shrock, Larry Ellison, and Cherry Chevapravatdumrong? LOL you can't because you don't have one!

    But I guess you've "Never been this far before" LOL -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1fX-FvKW8

    -- NAPK

    P.S => Visual BASIC 3? LOL! ROFL!

    P.P.S => I see you still don't know what big O is!

    P.P.P.S => FOUR MILLION CLOCKCYCLES per HOSTNAME?! ROFL!

  386. APK runs and hides! LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Does APK have a typing diploma? LOL he doesn't answer because he doesn't have one. APK can't even spell the surnames of major business leaders!

  387. "Eat your WORDS", troll (U FAIL again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time - ESPECIALLY if you have no programs of YOUR OWN to show, period...!)

    ---

    * So, "so much for that b.s." from you, ac troll - YOU FAIL, as-per-your-usual, vs. "yours truly"... lmao!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  388. Eat your words AGAIN, troll (U FAIL, lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41155629

    * Too bad I had to "blow you away" with FACTS, again (lmao - gotta be the 4th or 5th time now too):

    Face it - you're JUST NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to ever, EVER get the better of myself... fact, which the above, establishes cleanly!

    (Plus, lastly - My python code works, & 'CruTcHy' the troll admitted it does, you ac trolling FOOL, lol!)

    Now, what's that you said, ac troll? Oh yes, here we go:

    "Give up APK, NAPK is always going to win in the end! LOL ROFL BOB!" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 28, @03:53PM (#41155109)

    Clearly, you lie again since I just handed you YOUR ASS above, lol... easily - TOO easily in fact!

    ---

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time - ESPECIALLY if you have no programs of YOUR OWN to show, period...!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

  389. LOL! APK doesn't have a typing diploma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:

    #1 Typing diploma APK?

    * Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!

    You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO!

    #2 Python skills

    "Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423

    #3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe

    * LOL Malware APK?

    The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"

    #4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL

    Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com]
    PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com]
    SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net]
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es]
    Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

    ---

    Real computer experts and users on APK:

    Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"

    Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."

    "Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "

    Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"

    Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."

    Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society and has proven himself to be a drain on the productivity for the millions of IT workers worldwide that spend so much time uncontrollably laughing at APK and his antics"

    "squiggleslash": "At this point, Alexander Pete

  390. Eat your words AGAIN, troll (U FAIL, lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat", ac troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    * Please, DO tell us: How do YOUR FAILING WORDS TASTE, flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT, & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH?

    ---

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time - ESPECIALLY if you have no programs of YOUR OWN to show, period...!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above...

  391. LordLimecat & Metrix007 = "NUKED", lmao... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And

    Here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * Utterly HILARIOUS - The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too... as I had to point out to "armchair admin" LordLimecat (who called others that, lol, oh the "PROJECTION" he was doing was SO APPARENT, I had to spank him with it, for his reprehensible trollery!)

    Of course?

    There's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * Enjoy the program, but more importantly, the added extra speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs) it gives you, the end user of custom hosts files...

    ---

    Lastly, but NOT leastly? Metrix007 BLEW IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT vs. myself -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    (The fool didn't read the article & missed that it was a problem with MS Security Essentials, which you can just SET AN EXCEPTION RULE for not messing with the hosts file in it... lol, WHAT A HUGE FAIL!)

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do!

    How so?

    Well, since there's 1 simple fact:

    Admins/techs?

    They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  392. metrix007 = "insta-spanked", lmao... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  393. APK = correct, but downmodded? WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  394. NAPK owns APK, makes him "EAT" his words! LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  395. Wrong troll (moddowns to hide this too? LOL!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Whatever you're doing is horribly, horribly inefficient, and you still haven't explained why." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @12:25PM (#41111127)

    Ahem: I did long ago: You blew it - since I outlined it here, already -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977

    (What's the matter? Your "dyslexia/ADD-ADHD addled brain" miss it?? You're not showing myself, or anyone else here, any different because you missed that)...

    * YOU FAIL - learn to read, ac troll...

    You're NOTHING, but talk... and screwups, see links below on VB3 & Netscape (man - you really screwed the pooch there, lol)!

    Now, of course? As I said you would:

    You DOWNMODDED THIS to *try* "hide it" and your screwups (the original of THIS post -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 )

    AND?

    Yes - You'll downmod this post, as you have all my others via your registered "luser" account, & repeat your same bullshit you did here, once again, since you've defeated yourself once more as usual!

    Predictable as ever... same old TROLL crap, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> NOW - Just to "refresh your dull brain" per the link above? Here goes:

    Per my subject-line above: IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE, many times less, if you skip the optional "Convert & Filter" + only draw new data from sites that actually DID update (& IF you have a FAST network connection, like FIOS!)... no point in drawing in data you already have!

    MOST times, it's LESS than 1 minute in fact(Depending on the SIZE of the new data, and if it is needed - you don't NEED to draw data from hosts files' makers sites if they're NOT updated!) and, most of the time? The data is PERFECT from them too!

    (That is, unless they alter their site, because a couple of them demanded I do "screen scrapes" instead of file draws/downloads - the latter, never change in structure - the former could, but I have not seen that ever, in 9++ yrs. of running this program here - I take NO chances though, & as I said before to you? I ELIMINATE THAT UNCERTAINTY, simply by putting in the optional "convert & filter" button stage of the 2nd tab titled "Normalize ->"!)

    This FACT ALONE blows away your "Big O" bullshit you *tried* to throw @ me, you amateur...

    However/Again: I only guarantee absolute PERFECT DATA when & IF you run that optional step (not always needed though - you only need that on daily intakes of NEW data and not always either on files already in the correct format - not full merges with older hosts data you have, since you would have sanitized all new data, first, building it into your "merged final"... doing that, the old data is sanitized already, & the new data gets it right off the bat...)

    Still - I recommend, highly, performing that step on NEW data drawn in (though many times, it's NOT needed @ all), because as I said before to you? "Data Perfection, REIGNS!" Especially with file based data... period!

    ---

    Yes - It takes SOME NERVE to "talk a big game" & be a critic too when you have NOTHING like this program to show for yourself in GUI form (and to also screwup like you did here regarding my program, lol -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41102153 )

    Additionally: You've made nothing like this program, & certainly NOT in GUI form either -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    ...apk

  396. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  397. Modding down my posts to hide your screwups? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk
    b

  398. Modding down my posts to hide your screwups? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    To wit: The streaming system I use (HTTP socket streams) "masks itself" as that, for compatibility, but, lol... I don't "use Netscape 4.x", idiot... lol!

    * Tell us - HOW DO YOUR WORDS TASTE, now that they're flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, too?

    (ROTFLMAO!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Here's your blunder on VBRUN300.DLL (a 16-bit VB 3.x runtime lib no less), and?

    New NEWS/NewsFlash:

    DelphiXE apps, either 32 or 64 bit, don't use it, first of all & secondly? LMAO - 1 of 3 sites that host it SHOWS it is a native 64-bit executable, here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    YOU? Fail... badly!

    Ah, yes: As-per-my-usual "inimitable style"? You just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - especially vs. trolls that blow it badly in the light of FACTS I use!

    (Then they "downmod my post" to *try* to "hide" their own SELF-DEFEATS... lol! )

    Typical & PREDICTABLE troll b.s., nothing more...

    ... apk

  399. Not MS: Metrix007 & LordLimecat (2 failing tro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk (who blew it bad -

  400. Doesn't answer the question LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I notice you say all that but "forget" to tell us if you have a typing diploma APK? Could it be because you don't have one? APK, diploma-less "ne'er-do-well" rofl NAPK showed you here -> https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3083489&cid=41179623

  401. Downmodding my posts to hide your screwups? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also (since the effete trolls cannot take me on in technicals, they[ve used their "last resort, in failing off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks on THAT note)?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  402. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  403. != fraud, malware author, or low intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time!

    Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have?

    Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like that "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  404. No troll: No downmods to hide your mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Whatever you're doing is horribly, horribly inefficient, and you still haven't explained why." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24, @12:25PM (#41111127)

    Ahem: I did long ago: You blew it - since I outlined it here, already -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977

    (What's the matter? Your "dyslexia/ADD-ADHD addled brain" miss it?? You're not showing myself, or anyone else here, any different because you missed that)...

    * YOU FAIL - learn to read, ac troll...

    You're NOTHING, but talk... and screwups, see links below on VB3 & Netscape (man - you really screwed the pooch there, lol)!

    Now, of course? As I said you would:

    You DOWNMODDED THIS to *try* "hide it" and your screwups (the original of THIS post -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 )

    AND?

    Yes - You'll downmod this post, as you have all my others via your registered "luser" account, & repeat your same bullshit you did here, once again, since you've defeated yourself once more as usual!

    Predictable as ever... same old TROLL crap, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> NOW - Just to "refresh your dull brain" per the link above? Here goes:

    Per my subject-line above: IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE, many times less, if you skip the optional "Convert & Filter" + only draw new data from sites that actually DID update (& IF you have a FAST network connection, like FIOS!)... no point in drawing in data you already have!

    MOST times, it's LESS than 1 minute in fact(Depending on the SIZE of the new data, and if it is needed - you don't NEED to draw data from hosts files' makers sites if they're NOT updated!) and, most of the time? The data is PERFECT from them too!

    (That is, unless they alter their site, because a couple of them demanded I do "screen scrapes" instead of file draws/downloads - the latter, never change in structure - the former could, but I have not seen that ever, in 9++ yrs. of running this program here - I take NO chances though, & as I said before to you? I ELIMINATE THAT UNCERTAINTY, simply by putting in the optional "convert & filter" button stage of the 2nd tab titled "Normalize ->"!)

    This FACT ALONE blows away your "Big O" bullshit you *tried* to throw @ me, you amateur...

    However/Again: I only guarantee absolute PERFECT DATA when & IF you run that optional step (not always needed though - you only need that on daily intakes of NEW data and not always either on files already in the correct format - not full merges with older hosts data you have, since you would have sanitized all new data, first, building it into your "merged final"... doing that, the old data is sanitized already, & the new data gets it right off the bat...)

    Still - I recommend, highly, performing that step on NEW data drawn in (though many times, it's NOT needed @ all), because as I said before to you? "Data Perfection, REIGNS!" Especially with file based data... period!I did long ago: You blew it - since I outlined it here, already

  405. Not MS: Metrix007 & LordLimecat (2 trolls) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Don't you rather mean metrix007 (who blew it bad -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055913 or LordLimecat (blew it worse on gpedit.msc -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165 )

    "???"

    * They BOTH made hugely fundamental mistakes regarding hosts files... bigtime!

    On reading (or rather, NOT reading for metrix007)

    &

    On networking - LordLimecat really "f'd up" since he was calling those who use hosts files "armchair admins" & I HAD TO SCHOOL HIM ON GPEDIT, lol!

    (Some "admin"... more like "wannabe admin" in his case!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Just blowing away trolls, as always here - "You know me", lol... apk

    ===

    "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    To wit: The streaming system I use (HTTP socket streams) "masks itself" as that, for compatibility, but, lol... I don't "use Netscape 4.x", idiot... lol!

    * Tell us - HOW DO YOUR WORDS TASTE, now that they're flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, too?

    (ROTFLMAO!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Here's your blunder on VBRUN300.DLL (a 16-bit VB 3.x runtime lib no less), and?

    New NEWS/NewsFlash:

    DelphiXE apps, either 32 or 64 bit, don't use it, first of all & secondly? LMAO - 1 of 3 sites that host it SHOWS it is a native 64-bit executable, here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    YOU? Fail... badly!

    Ah, yes: As-per-my-usual "inimitable style"? You just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - especially vs. trolls that blow it badly in the light of FACTS I use!

    (Then they "downmod my post" to *try* to "hide" their own SELF-DEFEATS... lol! )

    Typical & PREDICTABLE troll b.s., nothing more...

    ... apk

  406. Are YOU just plain STUPID or blind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    HOW TO MAKE IT RUN FASTER WAS COVERED ALSO IDIOT: (Under a minute - thus, you BLOW IT again)

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41072977

    (What's the matter? Your "dyslexia/ADD-ADHD addled brain" miss it?? You're not showing myself, or anyone else here, any different because you missed that)...

    * YOU FAIL - learn to read, ac troll...

    (You're NOTHING, but talk... and screwups, see links below on VB3 & Netscape (man - you really screwed the pooch there, lol))!

    Now, of course? As I said you would:

    You DOWNMODDED THIS to *try* "hide it" and your screwups (the original of THIS post -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 )

    AND?

    Yes - You'll downmod this post, as you have all my others via your registered "luser" account, & repeat your same bullshit you did here, once again, since you've defeated yourself once more as usual!

    Predictable as ever... same old TROLL crap, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41101989

    To wit: The streaming system I use (HTTP socket streams) "masks itself" as that, for compatibility, but, lol... I don't "use Netscape 4.x", idiot... lol!

    * Tell us - HOW DO YOUR WORDS TASTE, now that they're flavored with "the bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, too?

    (ROTFLMAO!)

    Here's your blunder on VBRUN300.DLL (a 16-bit VB 3.x runtime lib no less), and?

    New NEWS/NewsFlash:

    DelphiXE apps, either 32 or 64 bit, don't use it, first of all & secondly? LMAO - 1 of 3 sites that host it SHOWS it is a native 64-bit executable, here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    YOU? Fail... badly!

    Ah, yes: As-per-my-usual "inimitable style"? You just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - especially vs. trolls that blow it badly in the light of FACTS I use!

    (Then they "downmod my post" to *try* to "hide" their own SELF-DEFEATS... lol! )

    Typical & PREDICTABLE troll b.s., nothing more...

    ... apk

  407. cbiltcliffe FAILS on DNS cache & hosts? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Downmodding to hide it now? I won't allow it -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297

  408. Metrix007 & LordLimecat = "insta-NUKED", lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And

    Here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * Utterly HILARIOUS - The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too... as I had to point out to "armchair admin" LordLimecat (who called others that, lol, oh the "PROJECTION" he was doing was SO APPARENT, I had to spank him with it, for his reprehensible trollery!)

    Of course?

    There's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * Enjoy the program, but more importantly, the added extra speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs) it gives you, the end user of custom hosts files...

    ---

    Lastly, but NOT leastly? Metrix007 BLEW IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT vs. myself -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263

    (The fool didn't read the article & missed that it was a problem with MS Security Essentials, which you can just SET AN EXCEPTION RULE for not messing with the hosts file in it... lol, WHAT A HUGE FAIL!)

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do!

    How so?

    Well, since there's 1 simple fact:

    Admins/techs?

    They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  409. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  410. APK "great BASIC programmer" doesn't know Big O! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LOL! So you're saying if your program sucks just don't run it! ROFL LOL BYOB.

    P.S => NAPK says it here: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41170457 Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL you don't answer because you don't have one! You're just a ne-er do well young whippersnapper!

  411. APK = correct (& downmodded?) + ac troll = wro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Problem fixed BEFORE metrix007 post-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583 (MS Security Essentials/Windows Defender): Metrix007 "blew it", and so did you, moron, lmao!

  412. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  413. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  414. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  415. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  416. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  417. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  418. Re:APK "great BASIC programmer" doesn't know Big O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
  419. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> So, thus? Well... per ALL of the above, vs. your b.s.?

    You fail as usual troll!

    (Off-Topic illogical failing ad hominem attacks always fail in the face of facts)...

    Which is WHY I keep having to repeat what I've already wrote to you "brain-damaged" trolls!

    Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time, lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /.,

  420. The "massive spanking", of LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And

    Here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too... as I had to point out to "armchair admin" LordLimecat (who called others that, lol, oh the "PROJECTION" he was doing was SO APPARENT, I had to spank him with it, for his reprehensible trollery!)

    Of course?

    There's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Enjoy the program, but more importantly, the added extra speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs) it gives you, the end user of custom hosts files...)

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do!

    How so?

    Well, since there's 1 simple fact:

    Admins/techs?

    They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apk

  421. The MASSIVE "spanking"... of LordLimecat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    LordLimecat blew it on gpedit -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41066165

    And

    Here too on the same gpedit error & LordLimecat called others "armchair admins"? LMAO -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054899

    * The "wannabe admin" LordLimecat BLEW IT on gpedit (group policies) ability to set parse autoexec &/or logon scripts to migrate ANY FILE, including hosts, from a central location!

    AND

    If you want more current updates? Taskscheduler can do that too... as I had to point out to "armchair admin" LordLimecat (who called others that, lol, oh the "PROJECTION" he was doing was SO APPARENT, I had to spank him with it, for his reprehensible trollery!)

    Of course?

    There's also this that I created that can do the same, AND, make the centrally located pristine fresh nomalized/deduplicated uniform entries sorted copy in the 1st place too:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Enjoy the program, but more importantly, the added extra speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs) it gives you, the end user of custom hosts files...)

    APK

    P.S.=> The latter one in my program? That's 1 thing the "armchair admin" (since LordLimecat called anyone who uses a custom host file that, & ended up with "egg on his face" blowing it on "things networking" above) will NEVER be able to do!

    How so?

    Well, since there's 1 simple fact:

    Admins/techs?

    They're JUST USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD & merely "use" what coders like myself CREATE FOR THEM TO USE... period/fact!

    ... apkb

  422. Downmodding my posts to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do YOU? No - YOU "blew it" on "Big O" & how long APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ takes to run (~ 1 minute) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 , lol... there ARE options, you know!

    ---

    Additionally:

    As far as my APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4 (as YOU erroneously said it is)?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    ---

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    * So much for that b.s. from you too - YOU FAIL, ac troll, you fail... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like the unjustifiable downmods you've been applying to my posts "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!

    ... apk

  423. APK != malware author/fraud/low intelligence etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  424. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  425. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  426. APK=correct (& downmodded?), ac troll = wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Problem fixed BEFORE metrix007's erroneous post-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583 (MS Security Essentials/Windows Defender): Metrix007 "blew it", badly... very badly, lol!

  427. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  428. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  429. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  430. Downmod my posts to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  431. Downmodding my post to *try* to "hide" YOUR fails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).

    It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!

    ---

    #2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?

    Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).

    (You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)

    ---

    #3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339

    (Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).

    ---

    #4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?

    LMAO - Well, as per your usual?

    You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309

    Additionally:

    As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...

    (Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)

    ---

    #5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...

    So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:

    I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin

  432. LOL BASIC programmer APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." - Edsger Dijkstra

    "(Plus, lastly - My python code works, & 'CruTcHy' admitted it does, you ac trolling FOOL, lol!)" -- by Anonymous Coward on 2012-08-28 16:18 (#41155629)

    LOL Mr Smartypants APK doesn't even have a typing diploma and is in no position to tell whether someone else said what he thinks he said!

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com] [ca.com]

    PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]

    SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")

    Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]

    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]

    Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up"! You can't even shut up as you don't have a typing diploma!

    --

    Do you have a typing diploma APK? CAn you even spell the surnames of major, real, business people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Thor Shrock, Larry Ellison, and Cherry Chevapravatdumrong? LOL you can't because you don't have one!

    But I guess you've "Never been this far before" LOL -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1fX-FvKW8 [youtube.com]

    -- NAPK

    P.S => Visual BASIC 3? LOL! ROFL!

    P.P.S => I see you still don't know what big O is!

    P.P.P.S => FOUR MILLION CLOCKCYCLES per HOSTNAME?! ROFL!

  433. APK did "THE" original guide on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  434. My Python script works fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wrote it up (not built-in -> print "troll bs here"[::-1]) + fully err trapped http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054945 : Where's yours? It isn't. You fail, ac troll, you fail since ANYONE CAN BE A CRITIC (it's quite another thing, to be a chef)! Besides, python is WEAK compared to C/C++ as I said before, it's NOT a favorite of mine, FAR from it, just one I got into to try it (the latter python was written in) & Delphi -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41061411

  435. Crutch? LMAO - U mean "'CruTcHy' the TROLL!!!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Using the hosts file this way is legitimate, but a crutch" - by gweihir (88907) on Sunday August 19, @10:29PM (#41050333)

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117

    APK

    P.S.=> 'CruTcHy' is one of the more notorious & reprehensible forums trolls this place has - the "evidence thereof" is above, "nuff said" on that note... Plus, lol, "a picture says a 1,000 words" on 'CruTcHy' ->

    ... apk

  436. Metrix007 - Ever see the film "The Natural"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My reaction would be much like Roy Hobbs' was per these quoted great moments from one of the great films of all time "The Natural" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5BEEpendWQ&feature=related (by Mr. Robert Redford - if you have seen it, you'll appreciate its analogous comparison here, & IF you haven't? Then, do - I can only say you're a "deprived child" if you haven't, it's truly a classic that applies here...)...

    Albeit - in regards to myself vs. your trolling's HERE on /.'s forums instead!

    Where:

    ---

    1.) The ac trolls
    2.) metrix007/you
    3,) LordLimecat
    4.) cbiltcliffe
    5.) 'CruTcHy' the troll
    6.) couchslug
    7.) & others

    ---

    FAILED vs. myself + my points on custom hosts files benefits to end users (in better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to a degree), with these quotes from that GREAT film (1 of my favs of ALL TIME in fact)):

    ---

    "... He SHOT IT TO PIECES..." -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583

    Sure did, just like Hobbs did in his debut... lol, except in THIS case, vs. metrix007, "right-off-the-bat", pun intended here since the film's about baseball (AND vs. the ac trolls on my program's code too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41200577 PLUS http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41188819 )

    ---

    "way, Way, WAY back - way up into the rafters there. An UNBELIEVEABLE hit by Roy Hobbs. INCREDIBLE POWER! Good as I've seen all year." -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41188455

    (Vs. BOTH LordLimecat & metrix007, & their UTTERLY HUGE MISTAKES, lol...)

    ---

    "Bottom of the 6th, Hobbs has been a 1 man 'wrecking crew' here today..." -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41201243

    (vs. the ac troll & HIS NUMEROUS MISTAKES on my program... lol!)

    ---

    "I don't believe it - 4 in a row! What a day for Hobbs..." -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297

    (vs. cbiltcliffe's FAIL on DNS clientside cache AND hosts files...)

    ---

    Custom hosts files? They're my "WonderBoy"... (see the film IF you haven't, so you can understand THAT reference - it's great... & it applies by analogy here by ALL means too, lol!)

    * Well, METRIX007 - "How do you like THEM apples?"

    (Since YOU of all people (lol) asked that, after your HUGE blunder, & those of others I noted above? There ya go... rotflmao! Thanks for making ME, look good, due to your utter blunders... & you trolls, by way of comparison? NOT SO GOOD!)

    Plus - Your reaction & those of your fellow trolls AFTER THE ABOVE has been BLATANTLY OBVIOUS - 100's of "downmods" of my posts that pointed out YOUR FAILS!... To *try* to "hide" YOUR numerous failures vs. myself!

    (Yes, total failure can do that to a person I suppose, you're all the 'evidence thereof' having seen you all/each stoop to such reprehensibly heinous machinations, that made me laugh bigtime large though... (and there's NO QUESTION, you of ALL trolls here? FAILED!)).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - THIS? This was My FAVORITE ONE - where I certainly "CLEANED YOUR CLOCKS" trolls...

    (ROTFLMAO - Just like how Roy Hobbs broke the field clock & scoreboard vs. the cubs - & judging BY your trollish technical mistakes?? You're STILL

  437. LOL diploma-less APK can't answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:

    #1 Typing diploma APK?

    * Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!

    You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO! [youtube.com] [youtube.com]

    #2 Python skills

    "Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

    #3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe

    * LOL Malware APK?

    The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"

    #4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL

    Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com] [ca.com] [ca.com]
    PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
    SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
    Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

    ---

    Real computer experts and users on APK:

    Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"

    Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."

    "Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "

    Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"

    Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."

    Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society a

  438. APK, "ne-er do well", hoisted by his own picard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:

    #1 Typing diploma APK?

    * Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!

    You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO! [youtube.com]

    #2 Python skills

    "Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423 [slashdot.org]

    #3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe

    * LOL Malware APK?

    The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"

    #4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL

    Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.

    ---

    Proof of the efficacious of CA

    CA [ca.com] [ca.com]
    PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
    SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
    Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".

    ---

    Real computer experts and users on APK:

    Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"

    Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."

    "Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "

    Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"

    Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."

    Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society and has proven himself to be a drain on the productivity for the millions of IT workers worldwide that spend so much