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The Worst Apple Store In America — An Employee Confession
Cutting_Crew writes "Gizmodo has a piece that describes one of the worst and most corrupt Apple stores. Two employees recount management exchanging brand new computers for face-lifts (and other things), not just from customers, but also from businesses. Other common activities ranged from destroying devices repeatedly and ringing up new ones (for themselves and friends as fake customers) to outright stealing merchandise and cash. Customers may have also lost their data if they weren't polite when coming in for a repair, or the 'Genius' help may have been intoxicated."
Consider the source always. This is not the first hack piece written by them. They were caught knowingly purchasing stolen goods but got off on the technicality of being part of the "press". It is not supposed to be a license to get out of jail.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
OK, I can believe the management is a bit corrupt, but are you seriously trying to tell me a bunch of hipsters barely making minimum wage goofed off and stole from their employer??
this is an outrage!
-Lod
Exactly, how credible is this source and the source that they are quoting?
That's not the worst of it. One of them tried to sell me a computer with two year old specs at twice the price of a new one anywhere else.
In addition to purchasing stolen goods, they also attempted extortion. All that aside, those assholes have been on my shit list for a lot longer than that, ever since the stunt that got them banned from the Consumer Electronics Show.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
But were any of their previous hack pieces about Apple? Last I read Gizmodo, they were still massive Apple fanboys, to the point of unreadability.
They were caught knowingly purchasing stolen goods but got off on the technicality of being part of the "press". It is not supposed to be a license to get out of jail.
Actually, being a member of the press is supposed to help you stay out of jail.
Even judges think so, otherwise we'd be locking up every journalist that published classified documents.
I think your understanding of the First Amendment needs refreshing.
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A bad store manager can leave a lasting trail of damage. Sounds like this store had a bad one and it rubbed off on the employees.
I don't see how this is a noteworthy story though... In any large retail operation you will have some bad "apples". It also sounds like Apple found out and fired most of them.
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We try to... see wikileaks.
The first amendment was never intended to be license for just any misbehavior or licentiousness or criminal misdeeds. It's protection specifically, with regard to the press, protects them from prosecution for things they say or print. It doesn't permit them to lie, cheat, and steal... by which I mean they cannot perjure themselves, commit fraud, or commit larceny with impunity. Freedom of the press is not a blanket permit to do whatever they feel like.
Is this how bad the hype on freakin' Apple is getting? The fanboys and girls just can't get enough so that now they're all hyped on reading reviews on the fucking stores? Stores? It isn't enough we have to endure sanctimonious drivel about how cool their iWhoGivesAFuck is, now we have to endure commentary on their stupid fucking stores. Get a grip people. What's next? Are they going to start writing essays on the possible ways Wozniak washes his balls?
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So, I broke Slashdot tradition and read TFA.
Short version:
This store was staffed by, and managed by, a bunch of power-mad dicks who were all either fired or left. Several employees were caught stealing or scamming the system, and fired and forced to pay for what they stole, and now the system is harder to scam.
Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Bad people are forced out, and system is improved to limit the behavior of bad actors? I mean, I get it, we all hate Apple, (STEVE JOBS WAS AN EVIL THIEF!) but I don't quite see the story here. Tellingly, the main storyteller, "Ronald" is still unemployed, presumably because his past references are something to the effect of "this guy stole our stuff and abused our customers" and now trying to get some some of satisfaction by trashing his employer for not stopping him from being a huge dick?
So if a member of the press commits murder, you'll let them walk?
Ever since Judy Miller went to jail for that noblest of causes the Bush Administration, the US media has loved this idea that being part of the press exempts you from criminal prosecution. I am not a lawyer, but as far as I know it does not, has not, and should not.
I believe strongly in a free press and I disagree with many excuses made for keeping information hidden ("national security", "intellectual property", etc.), but I among other things do not think that "journalists" should traffic in stolen property. Nor is being a "journalist" an excuse for Gizmodo's general sleaze factor.
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You can't handle the truth.
It doesn't permit them to lie, cheat, and steal... by which I mean they cannot perjure themselves, commit fraud, or commit larceny with impunity. Freedom of the press is not a blanket permit to do whatever they feel like.
As far as I know it is not illegal to lie. Making lies illegal would cause a problem as soon as two stories differ from each other, for example when the government says one thing and the press another. Since the government controls the law they can pretty much conclude that the official story is the truth and say that anyone who claims that the official story is false is a liar.
Doesn't mean what they're reporting isn't true.
How does the First Amendment protect you from purchasing known-stolen goods?
As far as my "limited understanding" that may need refreshing, the first Amendment protects your right to free speech in the face of the government.
Buying stolen goods that you know are stolen is not free speech.
Kinda like the "stolen/leaked" iPhone story.
Marketing genius. If I'm making a gadget that looks exactly like the last gadget, I'll cook up a story with a reporter about how this amazing top secret gadget got stolen from my secret Bat-lair and exposed to the public... thus generating the storm of publicity that will get millions of hipster douchebags to camp out in front of my stores for 3 days to buy my latest indistinguishable-from-my-last-one gadget. I mean, how about that? My company's biggest fans read Gizmodo, and how coincidental Gizmodo gets my "stolen" "next-gen" gadget?
Not that Apple did that or anything ;-) but it sounds like a good marketing plan ;-)
Cool story, Jobs!
That I'm right, and you don't like it, doesn't mean I'm a troll.
Genius is a relative term. These sales clerks work in Apple Stores. Compared to their customers, they are most certainly geniuses. People give monster cables a bad rep but compared to Apple cables, they are a BARGAIN! Why yes, a DVI to dsub connector, that be 20 euro please. COME ON! You fall for that, your knuckles are dragging across the floor.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Couldn't Apple have payed their wage slaves better so they wouldn't want to risk their jobs by thieving?
Also, Apple has very invasive hiring practices with the excuse to stop bad Apples. Doesn't work at all it seems, so why the invasive hiring practices?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Ahh yes, "we" are the reason other people have no morals or ethics.
Some people always try to find a way to blame the "fanboys"...
The only people to blame here are those engaging in the acts mentioned.
Oh I don't know about that... there are lots of licenses to get out of jail.
I won't just consider the source. I'll consider my experience. It surprises me not at all that Apple is nothing more than a really shiny Best Buy. There may be a good number of tech savvy Apple users, but the majority are not. And those people are begging to be exploited. Corruption isn't a crime of character as much as it is a crime of opportunity and it's a human condition. That this happens within Apple's doors only speaks of a variety of side-effects of their image, customer base, and of course, their cool and relaxed manner.
The story also smacks of "Waiting" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348333/). It's not a crowd I feel comfortable with. I do, however, understand the risks of doing business in organizations with images like these. So yeah, for some things and in limited amounts, I will risk my dollars and time in limited amounts at Best Buy. Apple stores? Not so much... the prices are too high for the risk.
It makes me wonder... it has always made me wonder why Apple gear is increasingly a completely sealed box with no removable anything. That is the main reason I will not buy any more Apple stuff unless it is user servicable. Is Apple's reason for doing so their employees? Or customers? Both? My initial thought was to prevent creating 3rd party markets for batteries and other compatible parts... and I still think so. But this practice also puts customers at further risk of exploitation... and as has been acknowledged since time immemorial... ...corruption is a crime of opportunity.
It's not only a matter of "if" it will happen, it's a matter of when and how often and it should be a given that it WILL happen. So I'd like to say this happens "everywhere, not just at Apple" which is kind of true. But I'd like to add that Apple make is more possible for a wide variety of reasons.
Since the government controls the law they can pretty much conclude that the official story is the truth and say that anyone who claims that the official story is false is a liar.
Hmm. Instead I'd say that there's a 50/50 chance of either telling lies. Ergo, imprison them both for half the standard sentence length.
I divide babies for breakfast.
Being a member of press doesn't give you free reign to commit crimes. The first amendment isn't some shield that lets you do whatever you want.
It means you can write about whatever you want, and you can protect your sources, but blanket immunity? Nope.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
The government accepts your offer and imprisons the journalist, and you for lying when you said the government lied.
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Do Ronald and Jake seriously expect us to believe any of this and won't go public with their real identity out of fear as to what Apple would do. Unless they and Gizmodo name names this entire story is worthless ....
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But. My wife's macbook came from Computers Now in south Melbourne. When it started running slow we took it back to the store. They dragged their heels on the job and I eventually decided to take the machine back. The computer they returned to me had a different metal top cover which was badly scratched. They faked up the sheet which I signed which had purportedly shown the damage when I dropped the laptop off. We argued with them about it but eventually had to accepted a damaged and not repaired computer.
And the Apple store in Doncaster fixed the problem (a broken SATA cable) for 30 bucks as well as upgrading the OS. It took one day.
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I believe freedom of the press applies to all Americans, and not just journalists - unless you can point me to any such similiar wording in the Constitution.
Perhaps you should do a little studying. "Freedom of the press" does not mean freedom of those in the business of selling news. It means freedom of the people to use printing presses to publish what they would like. The First Amendment does not give special protection to the news media. From the perspective of the Framers of the Constitution calling someone a "member of the press" would be like us calling someone a "member of the Internet".
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Sorry, if you want to be dick, snarky, or a condescending prick you deserve what karma serves you.
Sorry, you only have the options to take my money or not, you don't have the option to fradulently offer but not deliver goods or services.
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Willful destruction of data is illegal in the UK. I don't care much of a cock I am to someone in a store, they break the law if they delete the data off my hard drive.
This is no different than getting spit in your food
You may think that's acceptable. I do not. I've worked in a restaurant and I'd expect any member of staff to get sacked if they tried that.
There are excellent ways of dealing with difficult, rude or tardy customers. Breaking the law and illegally abusing them are not excellent ways.
Don't be a cock.
They're fanboys of Apple products but have largely been highly critical of the company itself.
"That I am NOT special despite it clearly saying so on my corporate mug? "
Don't worry. You're a totally special, unique individual, just like everybody else.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
I own a medium-sized computer store in South Carolina. I had problems with inventory mismanagement and theft a while back, so I installed surveillance cameras in the employee work areas. Every repair bench has an overhead camera that monitors what the employee does to the computer, and monitor and keyboard data at each repair station is logged and recorded to document what each employee does with the customer's software.
The cameras ultimately caught the employees who were stealing from me, and they are now serving time for felony grand larceny.
But, what really solved the problem for me was being more selective in my hiring process, and breaking down and paying for more exhaustive background checks.
Oh, and one other neat trick is never to use the references given by applicants, but ask those references for contact information for other people who know the applicant. The applicant will never give references who know the bad stuff they do.
How exactly is a willingness to purchase stolen goods to get information not consistent with a source being a good source of information? As a consumer of journalism I want journalists that go the extra mile.
They did not attempt extortion. Apple made a request and Gizmodo said yes provided it was a formal request, in writing not a phone call. Steve Jobs considered that extortion, because he believed rightly, the purpose of the formal request was to generate a story which would generate page views. That's not remotely extortion.
This is exactly the kind of story that a blog about Apple should be covering. You may be questioning whether journalists should be covering Apple but given the high level of public interest I don't see any reason they shouldn't be covered.
As for intimidation. Every small town newspaper publishes stuff that the mayor or the police chief doesn't like. Everyday journalists covering the national story go up against big corporations and government officials with tremendous power and budget. Go abroad and their are journalists in China reporting on abuses who get sent to forced labor. There were journalists in Egypt that got taken in by government forces and shot.
No Gizmodo shouldn't back down because Apple is unhappy.
After it was exposed how little Apple Store employees are paid, it doesn't seem to be much of a stretch to understand the lack of loyalty among the work force. I was in a huge national chain grocery store with millions of dollars of stock and sales, and was shocked to see the store manager wearing shoes with holes in them, and threadbare slacks, he almost looked like a homeless guy. When you underpay your employees, they will take what they think they deserve, with good cause. If America continues down this path, soon American workers will be like old Soviet workers, taking whatever they can steal to sell. Apple is the richest company ever, and pays Apple Store employees so little it's morally shameful. You must respect your employees and pay them a fair percentage of your profits to maintain a healthy company. Apple may be rich, but Apple's also sick.
No one involved in wikileaks as a journalist has been jailed for wikileaks. Both the NYTimes and the Guardian have offices in the USA.
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Generally the possession requires the goods were part of commerce to qualify for the crime. Using the goods for purposes of notifying the public may not be considered commerce. Otherwise lots of journalists who get information could be charged under the stolen goods clauses.
Cigarette companies used to make a similar argument about executives who violated their contracts and spoke about chemical additives to cigarettes to journalists. Since they were under an NDA the journalists was engaging in tortious interference....
The courts said that those sort of bans would undermine journalism.
Retail employees start at $11.91 on average. Minimum wage is anywhere from $5.15 to $8.25. So Apple starts their retail sales people between 100+% to 40% above minimum wage. Please clarify what you mean by "barely". Geniuses get larger wages as they have more skills. Now I don't know if you've ever worked in retail sales where most people are part-time and sometimes temporary and get no benefits but starting at much higher than minimum and getting benefits seems to be a good deal to me.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Unless you run a whistleblower organization that pisses off the world's governments.
I'm not buying it.
You might deserve it, but that still doesn't make it right for the guy dishing out the revenge in the first place.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
If I caught someone spitting in a customer's food I would fire them immediately and I would also report them to the health department because inserting bodily fluids of ANY kind into a customer's food is a SERIOUS health code violation. I don't care if the customer was being a jerk or not. I have a business to run, and the last thing I need is a cleanliness scandal, or worse, having my permit revoked because I stood by and let my cooks contaminate meals.
As for the condescending prick bitching to my wait staff, he would soon find himself 86'ed from the premesis if he failed to heed my warnings. Being a customer doesn't entitle you to be a dick to my staff.
I wouldn't put up with crap from either side.
Not saying Gizmodo needs to get out of Dodge or anything like that but they really really should avoid doing things like publishing this that only serve to rub salt in the wounds of the 800lb gorilla. Its not as if this is a story that needed to be brought to light. Its no secret that low wage retail employees tend to engage in this type of behavior.
Uh.. they aren't doing it out of some high-minded desire to spread truth to the masses. This type of story is a page-view goldmine which means ad dollars. Of course they're going to keep doing them.
It's funny that people are questioning the legitimacy of this...when in reality if you've ever worked retail or had friends work retail you know that things like this happen ALL the time; especially in big box stores like Wal-Mart & Target. Anyone in retail will tell you that the #1 source of thefts in stores are the employees. It happens in computer repair facilities too, replace parts that aren't bad, then scrub the inventory and take it home, steal the customer's 3rd party hardware...it's relatively common. The more profitable the company, the more hidden the losses are the from the books, the easier it is to steal. If you stole from a small business they'd notice it in a heartbeat, when you're a huge corporation it's harder to control or even notice until there is nothing you can do about it. If Apple continues as the world's largest corporation, they will continue to be plagued by this, it doesn't mean they will lose much profitability, just that it's not even a scrape to their behemoth profits.
The way you describe it. Gizmodo was trying to sell an item, that they knew was stolen, back to its rightful owner with conditions designed to generate additional financial gain by generating their own "news" story at the expense of the owner. Sounds like extortion to me.
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Taco Bell in our area starts people at $10.50. Target starts them at $11.
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I can't believe how far up your ass the late Steve Job's cock still is.
Let's not limit it to just the sub site of Gizmodo. The whole of Gawker media reeks of this type of "bloggerism" (they are not journalists). The only saving grace that Gawker has seems to be LifeHacker or possibly iO9.
Extortion requires coercion. Asking for an official on the record request doesn't come remotely close to extortion. Apple may not like the idea that Gizmodo is going to make money from the return but that isn't extortion.
This has got to be the single stupidest thing I've read all week, and if you knew what I've been working on this week, you should be pretty embarrassed. Well, you're likely already embarrassed since you didn't even have the stones to post this without checking the anonymous box, but whatever.
Just because some people like a particular company's products, does not create immoral employees. If it did, Google would be burning down churches right about now, because the Fandroid community is starting to be very reminiscent of the Apple Fanboy of yesteryear.
What makes immoral employees are immoral people (or amoral people that become immoral) getting hired as employees. Period. Best Buy doesn't have a healthy fanboy crowd, yet their Geek Squad has been rung up several times for data theft, etc.
Next time, try having some facts and evidence, rather than wild guesses and irrational hatred.
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Not that I disagree that Canadians have it better than us in many ways, but to be fair, my experience has been that purchasing power is lower per dollar because goods tend to be more expensive in Canada. Has anyone done the math on purchasing power of minimum wage workers in Canada versus the US? That would be very interesting.
Awesome. That kind of attitude potentially bolsters a source's credibility. It's easy to be critical of those we despise; being critical of those we adore is a hallmark of introspection.
That's the image they're selling, but it's certainly not always (or even mostly!) true, and "by far" goes a little too... far. Even going into an Apple store to simply buy an extra laptop charger has been more frustrating, to me, than visiting the Target or Fry's nearby.
In my limited experience, Apple store employees are focused heavily on attempting to sell the new, expensive products on people that come in, while more pedestrian needs (checking out people who come in for accessories, assisting those with technical issues) are a far secondary.
The lack of dedicated cashiers/registers is also often an issue at busy Apple stores. The convenience of processing a credit card anywhere in the store can easily be overshadowed by the multitudes of people trying to buy something, but being unable to find a free employee to process their transaction. There's little to no concept of queuing at an Apple store, as the 'register area' in the back of the store are not consistently manned by employees.
That said, I suspect these frustrations are known and intended by those that designed the Apple store experience; the point isn't to provide decent customer service, it's to sell product.
Contrast that with the many retail companies that haven't "built and maintained two operating systems, including [their] own browsers, email clients, etc.", who need you to return to their stores, and have to rely on a decent shopping experience and customer service, since they sell the same products as their competitors.
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Wow, swoosh with your comprehension skils and those that modded you insightful. He said the reason you are "reading" about them and the article, not that you agree or disagree with the content of the article or someones doings. Gizmodo posts a non story, fan boys all read it and get excited about it and discuss it. Gizmodo will repeat these type of non stories because you the fan boy will read it and get excited about it again and again.
If this same story was posted about a local 7-Eleven store, no one would give a shit, no one would read, and no one would comment on it.
I can, if you like.
I used to own a small company (myself and 2 others started it, it grew to 8 people when we sold it, so it was never large.) By far the largest expense every year was the trade show budget. Even building (as far as union labour allows) our own booth / tearing it down / manning it ourselves / sharing hotel rooms, a trade show averaged to ~$50k, and we did two per year (NAB in Vegas and IBC in Amsterdam). if you consider the time taken out of normal working hours for all that, as well as how long we sweated over making sure the demos were as good as we could make them, it's a lot more than that.
If some clueless moron went around sabotaging the equipment that we set up "just so" to highlight what we were trying to show, I'd be furious. You get about 20 seconds to 'hook' someone hovering around your stand at a trade show, then a max of ~5 mins to show off your wares if they are interested. If *anything* goes wrong, it's game over, which is why we worked so damn hard to make our (very complex) system look effortless for every demo.
When a sale is worth ~$20k+, you have to come over as competent, what you're selling has to demonstrably do its job, and you generally have to give a good impression. None of that is achieved if you are suddenly scrambling to find why the fucking TV has turned off. You look like an incompetent maroon, and you've lost the potential sale.
To a large company, this is an inconvenience; to a small company, trade shows are lifeblood. You *need* word of mouth to consistently generate sales, and more people will talk about "that little company that made best-of-show" (which we did, twice) than something they saw in an ad, or something that a cold-call salesman phoned them up about.
Ours was a happy story, we wrote the asset management that still (to my knowledge) runs ILM (amongst others) today, and we got a pretty good deal for the company, but it was touch and go for a year or two and during those years something like this could have pushed us over the edge. Word of mouth works both ways. ... ("they don't even know how to turn on a TV"). If it had, then thats a whole bunch of people out of work, as well as a massive financial mess for me and the other two owners.
You go into business knowing it is a risk, you try to minimise that risk as much as possible, but you don't plan for self-aggrandizing idiots intentionally trying to break your company for their own financial gain. Everything the bastards at Gizmodo do is about getting more page hits and therefore more ad revenue. For them, it's all about money in their pocket, and frankly they don't give a shit about how they do it or what consequences will fall on others because of their actions.
So yeah. They're a bunch of assholes as far as I'm concerned, too.
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What does it have to do with mactards? People making at or near minimum wage won't take their job seriously because it is easy to find a similar crappy job somewhere else. This isn't news. Now to the extent that people think that their company of choice is infallible you can be right. But Gizmodo as mentioned has a reason to not like Apple and has a history of illegal activity so not exactly a reliable source of news. Not saying it doesn't happen at Apple stores, heck this crap happens at most stores I suspect. Just I wouldn't necessarily trust this site to report facts on anything not device teardowns.
"Anyone time someone says "consider the source," they've just committed argumentum ad hominem. Think about that for a moment."
I just did, and it's bullcrap.
Argumentum ad hominem is a concept that applies only to a debate based on formal logic. This is not a debate based on formal logic. The source is not a text which constructs an argument from universally-agreed principles, where only the logic of the argument is up for debate: it's an assertion that certain events took place. The concept of argumentum ad hominem just _doesn't apply_. We're not debating formal logic. The issue is not whether the source's logical reasoning is sound, but whether things actually happened as the source describes, and the source's credibility absolutely is a factor in trying to determine that.
Does Taco Cowboy punch babies? Sources say maybe!
Really, my response here has nothing to do with the credibility of Gizmodo in this article (they may or may not be, I honestly don't know). I just want to say that any time we defend an incredulous source of information because there might be a tiny nugget of truth buried in their lies, we only serve to give more credibility to those lies. Sort of like the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.
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I've also noticed that getting actual help from an Apple Store employee has become more and more difficult, unless you're plunking down for the big new shiny. So, the last time I was there, I used their Apple Store app, which allows me to use my iPhone camera to scan the code on the item i wanted and pay for it with the credit card on file. I got what I came for, I didn't bother with any of the employees, and I got to pretend that I was shoplifting the item as I walked out the door with it. Couldn't have asked for a better experience.
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Well to be fair, Macs don't have a BIOS system and UEFI is largely irrelevant to their ability to do their jobs. While I agree with your notion that their title has nothing to do with their knowledge, at the end of the day they're able to solve most people's problems and tend to do so in a way that doesn't leave a sour taste in people's mouths (unlike your typical help desk workers).
How are sites slashdotted when nobody reads TFAs?
I have something that belongs to you, but I won't give it back unless you do what I say. How is that not coercion?
These comments are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of my employer or colleagues...
So now we are moving the goal posts for coercion to the level that is prosecutable? That's cheating :P
Physical coercion is only one type of coercion with Psychological, Legal, and Social being the other types.
Despite their intentions, Gizmodo tried to coerce Apple enter into negotiation for return of the prototype by using their possession of said prototype as leverage. Apple had a legitimate fear that Gizmodo would do financial harm by publishing more details about their prototype or worse sell it to one of Apple's competitor.
Except for the fact, that is wasn't a simple request for something in writing. When asked about the emails taken from Chen's computer, the prosecutor said:
"this is like 15-year-old children talking," Wagstaffe said. "There was so much animosity, and they were very critical of Apple. They talked about having Apple right where they wanted them and they were really going to show them."
They were in possession of stolen property. The thing that saved Gizmodo's bacon (so to speak), was that the prosecutor didn't think he had any evidence that Chen directly participated in the theft of the phone, and he had no real interest in building a case for acting like a "15-year-old" since I'm sure he had more pressing matters to attend to.
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In Toronto, a person can get a minimum wage job at $10.25/hour and: he doesn't need to pay more money for some health care insurance that won't cover anything and will still cost more money with "copays". He only pays $5 for a week's worth of locally and internationally grown fruit and vegetables. He can get a nice one bedroom apartment for as low as $650, all in. The majority of his city is coloured by plants and trees. Electronics, especially computer related, are often found for lower prices than US listings - otherwise, they are on par.
It's good to be Canadian.
Not that I disagree that Canadians have it better than us in many ways, but to be fair, my experience has been that purchasing power is lower per dollar because goods tend to be more expensive in Canada. Has anyone done the math on purchasing power of minimum wage workers in Canada versus the US? That would be very interesting.
That is why we can just drive over the border for milk and cheese. Now that the Canadian dollar is floating between par and above par with the US dollar, anyone living close to the border can use their Canadian dollars converted to US in neighbouring states
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
The cell plans from the big guys, internet, and gas are higher but natural food (not cookies, crackers) and prescriptions tend to be a lot cheaper. If you`re a resident, certainly you don`t have to pay for the doctors or hospitals. Stuff that is handled by the state (such as car insurance) tended to be cheaper when I lived there.
I did not mean a condescending tone towards you. By "obvious you like Gozmodo", I meant that you are defending them pretty hard and I think we would be wasting our time trying to convince each other that the other side is somehow incorrect. I did not intend it to mean that you were a Gizmodo fanboi.
For the record, I meant coercion in the literal sense (as in by definition) and not necessarily the kind that warrants prosecution. While you try to portray a rational conversation between Apple and Gizmodo, the articles printed at the time of the incident and the comments of the prosecutor who decided not to pursue the matter indicate otherwise.
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Wages that cause people to feel exploited seem to have a huge effect on employee behavior.
There was a fairly believable story from a Walmart store manager that she stole things like diapers from inventory to give to employees with babies to help compensate for the wages that were to low for them to support their families.
"What was immoral about the Walmart store managers actions?" is an essay question that would probably get you forty different answers from twenty people.
Costco pays their employees well and has negligible product shrinkage, Walmart skimps on pay and has one out of nine items damaged, destroyed, stolen, or is otherwise unaccounted for.
To quote Milton Friedman "People will do what they have to do to survive." Morality is a luxury of the middle class.
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When did we start letting middle managers be the most stupid people in the organization?
We never did. Some of the people at the bottom are really quite thoroughly stupid, in a can-hardly-spell-or-do-math sense.
But the real problem is that the qualities to do well in one post are not necessarily those needed to well in the manager of that post. They're different jobs after all. Now, when someone is promoted into a new role, it's rather random as to whether they'll have the skills to do well at that role. Sometimes they do, and then they can thrive (well, potentially), and sometimes they don't. It's the second case that we're discussing here, and that's a self-selecting set; people don't bitch about good managers.
Instead of dumping the incompetent ones we seem to let them rise to the level of their incompetence.
Some people are very good at telling stories to their superiors that the superiors want to hear. That makes it very hard for the superiors to detect the problems brewing up, given that they can't watch every little thing themselves (there's just not enough hours in the day). Plus those superiors might be doing the same themselves...
In any case, the thing to watch for is where you've got an organization that tries to stop communication upwards from bypassing any layer of management. That's a true sign of a place that is ripe for management coverups of their incompetence.
"Little does he know, but there is no 'I' in 'Idiot'!"