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Another LulzSec Member Arrested

Posted by Unknown on from the no-one-went-to-prison-in-wargames dept.

hypnosec writes "Raynaldo Rivera, aged 20, suspected member of LulzSec, has been arrested for his alleged role in the breach of Sony Pictures Entertainment last year. The first suspect, Cody Kretsinger, has already pleaded guilty and was indicted last September according to the FBI. Rivera, who also goes by names 'neuron,' 'royal,' and 'wildicv', surrendered to authorities and he has been charged with conspiracy and unauthorized impairment of a protected computer. The LulzSec member may be facing 15 years in prison if convicted." On the member who pleaded guilty: "Kretsinger, who pleaded guilty to the same two charges now facing Rivera, is slated to be sentenced on October 25. A federal prosecutor said he would likely receive substantially less than the 15-year maximum prison term carried by those offenses."

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  1. Not so many lulz now by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hopefully with these arrests and others a few months back, the keyboard warriors out there will start to realise that they're not untraceable and can't just do as they damn well please on the internet.

    I'm no fan of Sony but I hope this guy is banged up for a long time for stealing all that private data. And before any wannabe heros mod me down you might want to consider that YOUR data could be part of it.

    1. Re:Not so many lulz now by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I come at it from the opposite direction: I'm no fan of LulzSec, but Sony deserves to have its toenails removed for being so bloody sloppy about security.

    2. Re:Not so many lulz now by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't have to be a fan of Sony, to see what these guys are doing is wrong and criminal.

      Sony says we we want to run our business this way. The hackers go we don't like it. So except for just informing the public on their opinion (freedom of speech) they bring down the site, because for some reason we think that Our Ideas are right and any disagreeing idea is somehow motivated by some corrupt cause.

      If you are Pro-Choice then those Pro-Life people are trying to keep Women rights down.
      If you are Pro-Life then those Pro-Choice people are trying to make a world where woman don't need to have any consequences for their actions.
      If you are Republicans those Democrats are trying to keep the People addicted to government services so you can better control them.
      If you are Democrat those Republicans are trying to brainwash people to keep buying crap from these companies so they no longer need to innovate.

      We rarely ever get arguments anymore stating I understand your view, but I think my advantages may outweigh the disadvantages that you brought up. But we have moved to a world where a disagreement means your oponent has some Evil motive behind them. If you think your Ideological Opponent is evil then you feel justified hurting them in one way or an other.

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    3. Re:Not so many lulz now by VortexCortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All data should be free.

      Everybody's data (including thoughts) should be available to everyone, realtime, no exceptions.

      Only then can we derive true morality.

      I disagree. Your theory is sound, but in practice Twitter and Facebook didn't result in more morals.

    4. Re:Not so many lulz now by mvar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I definitely believe criminal activity should be punished but sending in prison a 20-year old for 15 whole fucking years and treating him as if he is a war criminal or serial killer, for simply hacking into a computer of a multi-billion-dollar company (which as it seems didn't care to invest some of it's awfully lot of money in protecting it's customer's data) , is a little too much. Especially when at the same time there are other criminals out there who roam free thanks to their financial status.

    5. Re:Not so many lulz now by mvar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      not to be misunderstood here: this kid should be punished but 15 years is just madness

    6. Re:Not so many lulz now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And what is your opinion of Sony putting a rootkit on your machine?

    7. Re:Not so many lulz now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      All you want is free entertainment

      No, some of us are legitimately concerned about the concentration of information into powerful hands - be they corporate or government. I'm not sure it's the best approach, but 'stealing' that information and putting it into the wild gets peoples attention regarding how data is collected, used and stored.

    8. Re:Not so many lulz now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're comparing a company who act as the custodians of our virtual identities to someone leaving their door unlocked, or even a rape victim?

      Way to hyperbole your strawman

    9. Re:Not so many lulz now by Gripp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, if your bank left your money sitting out front and people took it, you wouldn't blame the bank? That's effectively what sony did. Even better, they were WARNED they had left your money out. http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/02/is-your-private-information-safe-with-sony/

      In my mind they are most definitely responsible. More so than the kids who took it (and apparently did nothing with it).

    10. Re:Not so many lulz now by 1s44c · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I come at it from the opposite direction: I'm no fan of LulzSec, but Sony deserves to have its toenails removed for being so bloody sloppy about security.

      Dead right, I don't know how you got modded down.

      This was a SQL injection attack. Sony didn't follow that little rule about validating user input and should have known better. I'm not saying they deserved it because they didn't, but I'm saying it was bound to happen sooner or later.

    11. Re:Not so many lulz now by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't have to be a fan of Sony, to see what these guys are doing is wrong and criminal.

      But that's not why they're going to jail. Sony has done plenty of wrong and criminal things in their time, and no one there has gone to jail for it. Selective enforcement of the law is not justice.

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    12. Re:Not so many lulz now by bws111 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit. Sony did not 'leave your money sitting out front'. They left your money in the teller's drawer, as is normal practice. If someone comes in and reaches over the counter, opens the drawer, and removes the money, that person has committed a crime. Not the bank.

      Stop making excuses for these 'kids'. Sony may have had lax security, but they did not commit a crime. The 'kids', on the other hand, willfully commited a crime. The 'fault' is entirely theirs.

    13. Re:Not so many lulz now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sorry, yes I would blame the person who took the money. Taking something that is not yours is always wrong. Period. Doesn't matter how hard or easy it was to steal, stealing is wrong.

  2. big negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Where one falls, three more will rise to take his/her place. Locking up LulzSec will be an exercise in futility much like the American "War On Drugs"

  3. An exercise in futility!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmm.. hate to break it to you but there ARE ways to be untraceable.. just like any criminal who gets bored they also get sloppy and hence getting caught.

  4. Re:no sense of proportion, no justice by bws111 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So to sum up your position: victims of crime should bear the full responsibility and costs associated with finding, trying, and punishing the criminals. Gee, I can't imagine why the rest of society does not agree with you.

  5. Re:I love my country by jpmorgan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the US, generally the maximum penalty for killing someone is death, which I think most agree is more severe than 15 years.

    As a matter of course, most people convicted of killing someone else don't get the death penalty, and neither is this man is likely to face 15 years in prison. Those are both the maximum penalty.