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Raspberry Pi Revision 2.0 Board Announced

An anonymous reader writes "The Raspberry Pi finally saw a release on February 29 this year and is thought to have sold 200,000 units, with a million expected to ship before the year is over. That's a lot of tiny PCs, but it's also been an opportunity for owners to feedback any problems or tweaks they'd like made to the board. The Raspberry Pi Foundation has taken the feedback on board and today announced a revised design is being put into production. The new Raspberry Pi, known as revision 2.0 PCB, is expected to start shipping in the next few weeks. The revision includes a number of changes, but is essentially the same board. To summarize it includes a new reset circuit, a replacement for the reset fuses allowing for more reliable USB hub power, two GPIO pin changes for JTAG debug support, four redundant GPIO signals have been removed, and a new connector has been added for attaching a range of boards including a clock or audio codec. Two of the more easily noticeable changes include a fix that stops the HDMI connection interfering with certain operations of the Raspberry Pi, and the addition of two 2.5mm mounting holes to allow for easier mounting."

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  1. And also it's now made in the UK by Dave+Whiteside · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Wales by Sony to be exact
    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1925

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    1. Re:And also it's now made in the UK by pnot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In Wales by Sony to be exact
      http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1925

      Nice! That would have been a far more interesting headline than "RasPi gets mounting holes and minor bugfixes".

  2. Re:What about development tools? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

    Can you use this with Visual Studio? As I just love the newest VS.

    You can use Visual Studio to produce code that runs on the Pi, but not run Visual Studio on the Pi.

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  3. It's about time by Cornwallis · · Score: 2

    I can't wait to not see this one.

  4. Re:What about development tools? by Desler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it can. How do you think Intel's compiler integrates into Visual Studio? You just need to write the plugin for integration and make custom build rules.

  5. It's not truly open... by Dimwit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My problem with the Raspberry Pi is that it's not truly open - there's a binary bootloader and graphics driver, and the SoC is undocumented. If I wanted to write my own operating system from bootloader to windowing system, I'd have to do a lot of reverse engineering. That's kinda why I'd prefer the Beagle Board.

    (Disasbuse me of this notion if I am wrong.)

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    1. Re:It's not truly open... by tommeke100 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Check out this tutorial for OS development on the Pi : http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/

    2. Re:It's not truly open... by Dan+Dankleton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not completely open - but that was never the idea of it. The idea is to get something into the hands of kids to help them learn programming.

      Bare metal programming is possible though, and the system is fairly open.

    3. Re:It's not truly open... by inglorion_on_the_net · · Score: 2

      Check out Olimex: https://www.olimex.com/dev/index.html, particularly the upcoming A13-OLinuXino. My understanding is that they are making hardware that is vaguely similar to the Raspberry Pi, but with full documentation.

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    4. Re:It's not truly open... by Narishma · · Score: 2

      It's as open as any other ARM SoC with an integrated GPU. There's nothing stopping you from writing your own operating system. Many people already are in the process of doing that. The closed bits are only needed if you want hardware-accelerated 3d rendering and video decoding, which aren't necessary for an operating system to work.

      The Beagle Board also has a GPU with closed source binary drivers, I don't see how how it's any different from the Raspberry Pi.

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  6. Re:Still Waiting... by ratbag · · Score: 2

    Whilst public moaning in completely unrelated forums may appear to be the best way to expedite delivery, talking to to RS or Farnell will probably yield better results. If you've been waiting months, and you really have paid, then something has gone wrong. I wasn't charged until despatch, and I received the board within eight weeks of first reserving it (not purchasing, reserving). Registered with Farnell/RS 2012-05-08, pre-ordered from Farnell 2012-06-13, despatched and invoiced 2012-07-17, arrived 2012-07-20.

    Of course if you've already talked to the supplier, please disregard my missive. It's merely that every story about the Pi includes at least a couple of people complaining that they've been waiting months. In the early days supply was a problem, now less so.

  7. Bad USB drivers. by Ostracus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has the problem with the USB drivers been fixed?

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    1. Re:Bad USB drivers. by rephlex · · Score: 3, Informative

      I submitted that. No, the problems with the USB drivers have not been fixed but software modifications subsequent to that post have improved the situation slightly for all Raspberry Pi's. Also, the revision 2 boards can supply more current to USB devices which means more of them will work when plugged in directly to the Pi. Unfortunately USB will most likely never work well on the Raspberry Pi due to the sheer difficulty of fixing the vendor-supplied drivers for the Synopsys USB controller which remain very buggy. I doubt the Raspberry Pi Foundation will ever acknowledge this.

  8. What is this?!? by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    After waiting for 11 weeks for my RaspberryPi to ship, then getting an email that they would need many more weeks to supply the orders, they announce a 2.0 revision? How about fulfilling your orders first? They announced to the world months ago that they are producing thousands of units per day and yet I still don't have my order. I really don't like how this company is working.

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    1. Re:What is this?!? by batkiwi · · Score: 2

      You didn't buy it from the rasp pi foundation, you bought it from RS/Farnell/etc.

      It's like blaming MS because your pre-ordered xbox at best buy didn't come in time while gamestop/etc still has tons.

  9. Dammit by WillyWanker · · Score: 2

    I just bought one a month ago. And NOW they release an updated board? Com'n, you couldn't warn us it was coming???

    1. Re:Dammit by pnot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just bought one a month ago. And NOW they release an updated board? Com'n, you couldn't warn us it was coming???

      No.

  10. Re:Still same old non-open source board though... by droidix55 · · Score: 2

    Hopefully that will change soon with the reverse engineering effort underway: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE3NTE

  11. UK 2.0 by drwho · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am happy that the Raspberri PI has updated the UK to version 2.0. UK v 1.x was getting long in the tooth.

  12. Release date? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    After not being able to get the first, when may I expect to be unable to get that one?

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    1. Re:Release date? by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      I don't think you tried very hard.

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  13. still can't get the last model by deathguppie · · Score: 2

    Really doesn't matter to me since I had to sign up on a waiting list six months ago, then wait ten weeks after payment for shipment then just recently received an email stating that the order would be delayed. If I can't get the first revision a second one is simply meaningless to me.

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    1. Re:still can't get the last model by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

      cancel your order and get it from MCM.. in stock and I'm getting them 2 days after ordering.

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  14. Re:Still Waiting... by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 2

    Yes. Never order from RS. The other vendor has them in stock but RS has held my money since June 29 and wants to ship in October. I consider that "tentative" Fsck them.

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  15. Ewww by DeathToBill · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's so much I love about this. Seeing British-designed products being produced in Britain. It just feels right. I love the educational aims of the RPi. I love the hacker culture around it. I love the ethical sourcing and the informal PR of the RPi foundation. It's all so good.

    And then... it's produced by... Sony. Yuck.

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  16. Re:Still Waiting... by ctid · · Score: 2

    I cancelled my RS order on Tuesday morning and ordered from CPC (this was at 10:01am). I received my Pi at about 11am this morning. approximately 49 hours from order to delivery!

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  17. Re:Still Waiting... by marcop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Order from Allied 2.5 months ago. After hearing about the USB and Ethernet reliability issues I decided to cancel (literally this morning). Bought the Rikomagic MK802II instead. I should get it in 2 weeks too.

    Here's a side by side comparison of the MK802 vs the Rasp. Pi.

    http://youtu.be/YKNPnBE-ouI

    From my understanding, the Pi still beats the MK802 on price and GPIO (addressed in the video).

  18. Re:What about development tools? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Visual Studio = Microsoft, closed-source stuff and just plain evil with lawyers
    Raspberry Pi = Linux, open-source stuff and just happiness with rainbows

    Leave your nerd card at the door and never come back here.

  19. Re:Who cares? No really. Raspberry Pi is ALL HYPE. by Hatta · · Score: 2

    I mean come on, what can you even do with this board that you can't do with a Mac Mini?

    You can't fit a Mac Mini into a cigarette box and run it off of 5 volts all for less than $100.

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  20. Picaxe by slashmojo · · Score: 2

    I gave up trying to get a RaspberryPi long ago. I was looking forward to it for months, I had such plans for it, but it's one hurdle after another to actually buy one. I check back every few months to see if anything changed - today I looked again and what do I see in the availability column? "Awaiting delivery". Wonderful..

    I'll just go back to tinkering with a picaxe instead.. it was cheap and easy to get and easy to make it do cool stuff even though I know nothing about about electronics. It may not run linux but it plugs into my ubuntu netbook and can be programmed with basic. It's actually fun, unlike the Pi which so far is just an exercise in frustration.

  21. Re:There are better products than the Pi by batkiwi · · Score: 2

    What's good about the pi:

    -easy to use GPIO libraries were available day 1 (this is lacking on a LOT of the ARM SoC implementations)

    -they worked pre-release with the XBMC to ensure that a "functioning" media center was available day 1

    -tiny, cheap, powerful "enough" (you'll find better bang for buck, but not generally "cheaper")

    -HDMI and ethernet onboard. Many don't come with either, requiring an adapter card

    It's not perfect, but it is in a bit of a "sweet spot" for hobbiests who need a bit of power and a bit of easy.