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California's Unspoken Health Problem: Brain Parasites

An anonymous reader writes "Sunnyvale, California is a town 40 miles outside of San Francisco, in the Bay Area. As in most of California, the weather is mild, and the winters are short, even sometimes warm. On December 20, Sara Alvarez took her youngest child for a walk in the park in town. As daylight faded, Alvarez lost feeling in her right leg, then her left foot. Her body became numb, and she became weak. At 10:15 pm, her husband drove her to a hospital in Redwood City, about 20 minutes away from their town. There, over the course of Christmas, doctors batted around diagnoses: tumor, cancer. Finally, Alvarez received a brain scan that revealed the truth: neurocysticercosis, a calcified tapeworm in her brain (link contains images of brain surgery)."

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  1. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new brain parasite overlo...

    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      After RTFA I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new brain parasite overloards

      ...the trouble with tapeworms occurs when they reproduce. The host expels thousands of the tapeworms' larvae out of their anus, possibly infecting other people.

    2. Re:Obligatory by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative

      After RTFA I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new brain parasite overloards

      ...the trouble with tapeworms occurs when they reproduce. The host expels thousands of the tapeworms' larvae out of their anus, possibly infecting other people.

      Don't walk around bare foot.

      Don't eat raw vegetables from fields people or dogs poop in

      Don't eat raw meat.

      Get regular checkups, you can always ask for blood tests to see if you have blood parasites.

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    3. Re:Obligatory by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Finally the symbiotic friend I've always dreamed of.

      I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    4. Re:Obligatory by ourlovecanlastforeve · · Score: 2

      I don't think that's obligatory and in fact it might be a little callous considering the context.

    5. Re:Obligatory by mrmeval · · Score: 2

      That's Goa'uld and their pretty nasty and it takes a lot to get cured of them.

      For the children
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa'uld

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    6. Re:Obligatory by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't walk around bare foot.

      Aren't you thinking of hookworms?

      Don't eat raw vegetables from fields people or dogs poop in

      Dogs? Because only dogs can have tapeworm infections? If you want to be safe you should avoid eating any raw vegetables that weren't grown somewhere protected from wild animals. Like hydroponic or greenhouse vegetables.

      Don't eat raw meat.

      Or rare meat. The core of the meat has to reach a high enough temperature to reliably kill the parasites. 145F for pork and fish. 165 for everything else. Note that chefs routinely go lower than these temperatures in order to avoid tough, leathery meat. I would imagine that fish tapeworms are the most common in the US since cooking fish too long will ruin it. And then of course there is sushi.

      Get regular checkups, you can always ask for blood tests to see if you have blood parasites.

      Blood tests are not considered reliable

      Eosinophil counts are not diagnostically reliable. Eosinophilia is sporadically present and does not correlate with the severity of the infection. Eosinophil counts also do not help in monitoring treatment modalities.

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    7. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Fish tapeworms won't be found in sushi -- fish sold for raw consumption has to be frozen to kill the parasites.

    8. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the United States, sushi fish must be deep-frozen before being served, at a low enough temperature and long enough duration to kill all parasites.

    9. Re:Obligatory by byornski · · Score: 2

      Or rare meat. The core of the meat has to reach a high enough temperature to reliably kill the parasites. 145F for pork and fish. 165 for everything else. Note that chefs routinely go lower than these temperatures in order to avoid tough, leathery meat. I would imagine that fish tapeworms are the most common in the US since cooking fish too long will ruin it. And then of course there is sushi.

      Fresh Beef, Veal, Lamb Steaks, roasts, chops 145 3 minutes

    10. Re:Obligatory by KDR_11k · · Score: 2

      The cook can be infected the same way so you've gotta make sure none of the restaurants that the cook has ever eaten at has a cook who immigrated from an infected country or has eaten at a restaurant where the cook...

      So what's your Bacon number then?

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  2. This is why we cook our meats by the_humeister · · Score: 4, Informative

    This comes from pork, so don't eat undercooked pork. Tapeworms, in general, come from raw/undercooked meat. Pigs just happen to harbor the ones that sometimes go to person's brain.

    1. Re:This is why we cook our meats by morcego · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is a tapeworm that comes from cow meet also, although it is less aggressive and rarer than the pork one. So yeah, I agree the most likely cause if poorly cooked pork meat.

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    2. Re:This is why we cook our meats by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't get it. The immigrants are transmitting tapeworms to Californian pigs? Or directly transmitting them to purebred but presumably cannibalistic Californians? Or people are eating immigrants' lunches?

    3. Re:This is why we cook our meats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm in California. Here, there are so many immigrants that we just eat them.

    4. Re:This is why we cook our meats by xmousex · · Score: 2

      A family member, friend or restaurant cook infected with an adult tapeworm can secrete tens of thousands of tapeworm eggs daily, which can be easily ingested by others.

      eating food prepared by an infected person. one infected person at a restaurant could infect a few hundred people in a day.

    5. Re:This is why we cook our meats by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't get it. The immigrants are transmitting tapeworms to Californian pigs? Or directly transmitting them to purebred but presumably cannibalistic Californians? Or people are eating immigrants' lunches?

      Transmitting between people, not so hard if you live in undeveloped conditions. If your toilet is close to where you grow/raise your own food you're going to get something eventually. This is why proper disposal of human waste is important and using uncomposted manure for fertilizer is such a bad idea.

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    6. Re:This is why we cook our meats by morcego · · Score: 4, Insightful

      hmm, that would be really odd from Pork grown in the US, these days. It's really clean compared to other countries. The exception being 'natural' or 'organic' small farms. Often the thing it's natural for a pig to eat trash and left overs.

      You make a very good point. The proliferation of "organic" production and "farmer markets" open a big door toward infection. The problem is not those, but that people got used to no worrying, since their food is already sterilized, pasteurized, irradiated and whatnot into oblivion. When you go organic/natural production, you have to take certain measure to assure food safety.

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    7. Re:This is why we cook our meats by geekoid · · Score: 2

      why is the infected person bleeding and/or shitting all over the food?

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    8. Re:This is why we cook our meats by ppanon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " "stuffed full of antibiotics and raised in atrocious conditions"?"
      please show me scientific evidences that causes any harm in the person eating the pork.

      The antibiotics are because the conditions are so cramped that bacterial disease transmission is extremely common. So the factory farms (chicken, pig, cow) are huge incubators for developing antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Many of the antibiotics also pass through to the stools, get diluted into the ground and groundwater, and result in an extended environment that allows for the evolution of antibiotic-resistant infections.

      So does the person eating the pork get harmed directly due to ingestion? No. But when they or someone else later winds up catching an antibiotic-resistant bacterial strain that evolved thanks to the massive use of antibiotics in factory farming of meat animals? Yes.

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    9. Re:This is why we cook our meats by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Antibiotics are given strategically, administered when pigs are sick, susceptible or exposed to illness. It's not just given to them willy-nilly.

      Wrong. In the US, farm animals are routinely given low doses of anti-biotics (in their food) just for the purpose of "growth promotion", despite the lack of any of the factors you list.

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    10. Re:This is why we cook our meats by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/jan/19/health.medicineandhealth3

      Sanitation is the greatest medical milestone of the last century and a half, acccording to a poll carried out by the British Medical Journal.

      Sanitation was the clear winner among 15 milestones shortlisted by readers of the journal, including the development of vaccines, which has safeguarded many children's lives, and the invention of the contraceptive pill, which was a contributory factor to significant social change.

      Getting shit away from us has saved more lives than hand washing and antiobiotics.

      It's hard for people in the developed world to understand the conditions that exist throughout Africa and Asia.

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    11. Re:This is why we cook our meats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Galactica 80? No, I think that's the main reason it was cancelled...

    12. Re:This is why we cook our meats by slashmydots · · Score: 2

      then when are people from California so unbelievably illogical compared to elsewhere? lol. I mean 8.75% sales tax, every handout program ever, and they're bankrupt? WTF? It must be an epidemic because nobody's brains are working!

    13. Re:This is why we cook our meats by jeffasselin · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are lying, anyone taking 1 minute searching on Google can find articles like this one:

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=our-big-pig-problem

      That explains quite clearly how US producers use low dosage antibiotics to fatten animals. Some other countries may do the same, but many do not.

      And the problem is not direct harm to the end consumer, but to the environment as well as creating a breeding ground for antibiotic-resistant bacteria that might then infect people - infections that cannot be treated using common antibiotics because they are resistant.

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    14. Re:This is why we cook our meats by CBravo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When people from a pigfarm go to the hospital they are immediately quarantined in fear of resistant bacteria. That actually triggers farmers to start lowering the dosis for their pigs...

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    15. Re:This is why we cook our meats by PCM2 · · Score: 2

      why is the infected person bleeding and/or shitting all over the food?

      They don't have to shit in the food. Have you ever been to a restaurant restroom? You know that sign that says "employees must wash hands"? There's a reason for that sign.

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  3. "Nobody cares"!?!? by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally a CT scan revealed the malady. Alvarez had neurocysticercosis — a calcified tapeworm lodged in her brain...Nobody cares about this disease, and they should, if not from a humanitarian point of view than from a fiscal aspect, says Wilkins, a scientist with the CDC

    JESUS H FUCKING CHRIST! I CARE! How can one NOT care about brainworms!

    Forget al qaeda! America has a NEW ENEMY! And it is brain tape worms! Take all my taxes, draft people, use those milimeter wave scanners on every street corner, suspend the constitution, I don't care, just keep these terrifying slimy things out of my cerebral cortex!!!

    1. Re:"Nobody cares"!?!? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank you, citizen, for filling in our Room 101 Survey Form.

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    2. Re:"Nobody cares"!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Everyone cares and knows about neurocystercicosis. It isn't rare, just uncommon in the U.S. It's the cause for about 50% of the cases of epilepsy outside of the U.S. It's pretty treatable. It's often asymptomatic, and I run into it fairly routinely, though not as much as when I lived in Texas and California. One famous case was of a Hasidic Jewish family that got it. You see, you get the tapeworms from eating undercooked pork, but you get cistercicosis for
      oral-fecal contamination from someone who has the worm in their gut. It turns out that this family had a Latino housekeeper who had the worm, and who apparently didn't quite wash her hands enough after using the bathroom

    3. Re:"Nobody cares"!?!? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      While you're there, could you make a note my crippling fear of sexy parties? Thanks.

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  4. This sucks by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Why can't we get parasites that make us super intelligent?

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    1. Re:This sucks by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      You just don't eat enough old egg salad sandwiches in space gas stations.

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    2. Re:This sucks by SomeJoel · · Score: 2

      You just don't eat enough old egg salad sandwiches in space gas stations.

      In the end, no matter how well you play the holophonor, it's just not worth it.

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    3. Re:This sucks by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Just make a metaphorical deal with the devil. .. and by Devil I mean robot devil, and my metaphorical I mean get you coat.

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  5. Not just Bbbbrrrraaaiiinnnssss!!! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As California is a gateway, thanks to its border with Latin America and many international airports (plus a few containers brought to shore filled with asian imigrants, one was found abandoned at sea a few years ago) we gots lots of happy little bugs.

    It's not difficult in some corners of the world to buy a false health certification, which allows someone with rampant Tuberculosis to come on in and cough among us. (thanks to this I went on a 9 month course of Isoniazid as a preventative meausre, 9 months of total suck) Further there are people coming from rural backgrounds in SE Asia who have various gut and blood parasites, they move to the big city, get a leg up and move to the US. There's some pretty graphic examples of what peasants could have in their guts in the way of big worms thanks to eating food grown in fields fertilized by raw manure from infected oxen, goats, etc., and walking around in same fields bare footed. A mobile population in the world means this is going to happen more often, everywhere.

    Don't like it? Maybe mandatory health screenings for visitors to the US, but if you even start talking about it you'll be called all sorts of names by various groups and who is going to pay for it?

    Not just West Nile that's getting around.

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    1. Re:Not just Bbbbrrrraaaiiinnnssss!!! by leehwtsohg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention all those nasty deseases the european immigrants brought with them to america.

    2. Re:Not just Bbbbrrrraaaiiinnnssss!!! by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Have you got any evidence for this, in terms of research done providing statistics on the percentage of parasites traceable to immigrants, or are you just pointing the finger at these people when you should be looking at shoddy health inspection practices?

    3. Re:Not just Bbbbrrrraaaiiinnnssss!!! by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dey took ur JERBS! And gave us WERMS!

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  6. Finaly by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Funny

    An explanation for the behavior of the California State Legislature. I though they were just insane, who would have thought they have parasites eating their brains?

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    1. Re:Finaly by mark_reh · · Score: 2

      The legislature isn't the problem. The ballot propositions are the problem. California has mob rule, and the mob isn't very bright. 85% of California's budget is determined by ballot measures. The legislature only controls 15% of the budget.

      How much could you accomplish if your 5 year old kid controlled 85% of your budget and you only controlled 15%?

  7. The Bigger Story by JustOK · · Score: 2

    The worm had a person wrapped around it.

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  8. Good call, except for timing by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    I though they were just insane, who would have thought they have parasites eating their brains?

    The brains were gone long ago.

    It's been all parasite for about a decade now.

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  9. It's not a town, it's not outside anything by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 2

    This story makes it sound like you're in the burbs. Sunnyvale is a city in the heart of Silicon Valley. It borders both Cupertino (home of Apple) and Mountain View (home of Google) and has more residents than both of those put together. Would you read a story on slashdot relating how Cupertino is a town 45 miles from San Francisco?

    Weird.

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    1. Re:It's not a town, it's not outside anything by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why do you think that statement was directed at foreigners? It's the average American who needs help with geography.

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  10. Re:Rack City by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 2

    Rack City is Vegas (which is not in CA, in case you did not know)

  11. Bankrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the United States, everyone -- insured or not -- is one major hospitalization away from total life-ruining bankruptcy. It's the health care system here that needs help. Brain parasites would be eradicated as a pleasant secondary effect.

  12. Oh come on! by Cute+Fuzzy+Bunny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slow news day? 386 cases out of 38,000,000 people? Clearly a serious problem. I'd have to do the math, but I think you're more likely to be hit by a space rock or eaten by a shark.

  13. Cost/Benefit Analysis by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Budgeting for health care means focusing the available resources on the most cost effective problems first -- the things that affect the most people.

    The CDC estimates that there are 1,900 diagnosed cases every year, 386 annual cases in California alone which can cost upwards of $66,000. Often it is paid through Medicare - costing taxpayers thousands.

    California Population: 37m

    The phrase "upwards of" jumps out at me. Let's be generous and assume the number they quoted is only twice the average.

    386 cases at $33,000 = $13m per year

    The cost per Californian is under $0.50 per year. Given the weasel phrase, "upwards of", it is probably a lot less than $0.50 per year. You have a one in 100,000 chance of getting it each year in California. If you are a California resident, you are less likely to get hit by lightning, but not by a whole lot.

    Health care resources are limited. If we waste them on 1:100,000 shots, people with more common ailments will suffer. That is a bad economics and socially heartless.

    1. Re:Cost/Benefit Analysis by Bob9113 · · Score: 2

      How extensive is the undiagnosed population, and how fast is that population growing, and how much will they cost to treat?

      Yes, exactly. That is exactly what I meant with my post. Health care allocation decisions should be based on rational analysis, not whether some individual had worms in her brain on Christmas day. You are adding data points to the analysis, and that is good. I'm not saying my cursory glance is sufficient to find the right answer, just that the decision should be rational, and that even a cursory glance at the numbers is better than ignoring them.

  14. Re:At Some Point... by cffrost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some idiot "researcher" will put out a study that condemns CA and/or the U.S. for not having adequate systems/procedures/etc. in place to detect and treat this even though it is not native to the U.S. and is largely brought in by immigrants.

    Therefore, this condition cannot occur in the US, so detection and treatment are of no use.

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  15. California, it figures by PPH · · Score: 2

    All the way across the country from Dr House.

    This was the series pilot subject disease.

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  16. Summary troll by GoodNicksAreTaken · · Score: 5, Informative

    Alvarez says she experienced debilitating headaches for 20 years before her diagnosis, but she probably consumed tapeworm eggs much earlier than that. When Alvarez immigrated to the United States in the late 1980s she complained to American doctors of a pain so absolute it blinded her and made her vomit.

    The parasites apparently were contracted outside of the United States according to the article contrary to all of the other comments and contrary to what the Slashdot summary seems to imply.

  17. Re:At Some Point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The people who think "immigrants" are the problem are idiots, because it doesn't take "immigrants" to introduce such problems. Merely travellers and/or imported pigs or pork, followed by people improperly cooking it and/or unsanitary conditions when preparing food. This can happen anywhere and to anyone. You can travel to another country and bring it home with you to spread around the community. Unless you're going to ban international travel and trade, you have to have a healthcare system prepared to deal with unusual imported diseases like this.

    And if you think it's "not native", neither was West Nile Virus, until it became established and now is found across most of the US. Diseases do change their distribution.

  18. Re:At Some Point... by Abstergo · · Score: 2

    Darn immigrants, bringing in their tapeworms and stealing our jobs! Why, it's so bad now that they'll wait for you outside of where you work, beat you up, and STEAL your job! (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart).

    We, as a collective America (the country, not the continent), need to put our foot down and tell them to Get Off Our Lawn (the grassy parts of America, which probably excludes Texas).

    [/sarcasm]

  19. Re:At Some Point... by anomaly256 · · Score: 2

    Pretty sure that was an intentional, somewhat jestful dig at bologne research and the public reaction to it. But wtf? someone modded that insightful? That's the person you should really be worried about

  20. Get'm B4 they enter the brain WITH PAPAYA SEEDS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Effectiveness of dried Carica papaya seeds against human intestinal parasitosis: a pilot study.: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17472487

  21. Re:At Some Point... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    even though it is not native to the U.S. and is largely brought in by immigrants.

    The article, which was mostly fluff, does not state that. Tapeworms most definitely exist in the US as well. In fact they are very common. Perhaps you can cite your source.

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  22. Re:FINALLY?!? by Richy_T · · Score: 2

    They have to go back and forth on the diagnosis to give House's romantic back-story time to run its course. So blame the English

  23. Re:At Some Point... by realityimpaired · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know this is Slashdot, and reading the article is blasphemy, but if you'd read the article in its entirety, you'd know that the symptoms of this particular kind of infection can go on for decades before it reaches the point where surgery is necessary, and that the woman in question went to a doctor with these symptoms 25 years ago and was given tylenol. The article goes on to say that if it's caught early, it can be treated effectively and cheaply with steroid drugs.

    The problem isn't having inadequate systems in place, it's not having proper education about this kind of thing. When the cost rises so dramatically if it's left to stew for so long, it becomes cost effective to educate people and doctors about the risks and symptoms, especially when the majority of those affected will be on medicaid, and the US taxpayer will have to foot the bill for brain surgery in the most inefficient and expensive health care system in the world (medicaid itself spends about twice per patient what gets spent in countries like Canada or the UK). Given all the other drug ads you see on US television, you'd think the steroid manufacturers would be doing the education for the health authorities.....

  24. Can we give them to our politicians? by Linsaran · · Score: 2

    It can't hurt right?

    Serious medical crisis aside, all I can picture in my head right now is Paul Ryan wearing a brain slug from Futurama, "Poor little guy starved to death"

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  25. Re:At Some Point... by mbone · · Score: 2

    I am from Georgia, and had a tapeworm when I was about 7 or so. And, yes, I was going barefoot a lot that summer.

  26. On the other hand, parasites can be good for you by LastDawnOfMan · · Score: 2

    Frustratingly, it seems there've been a lot of reports that point to lack of parasites (and exposure to other things as well) as being behind a lot of Americans' immunological deficiencies. But then of course as this article points out, having big cysts in your brain isn't all parades and root beer floats, either. We really need more research on how to trigger our immune systems properly without being endangered by actual meat-eating, egg-laying worms in our systems. Here's a link to one bit of research that mentions this. Apologies that I don't have the patience to learn how Slashdot wants me to alias it: http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/show/pageid/2474

  27. Re:This could explain a lot of things by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    Actually, if you read the story, it is not known where she acquired the parasite, and California, by virtue of its large immigrant population, has a bigger share of the problem (at least as it is known right now) than other states.

    My comment had nothing to do with where the woman acquired the parasite or what her ethnic heritage is, and was more of a comment on the poor state of everything in California. I was suggesting that the reason almost everything is so screwed up in California is that maybe there's a much larger prevalence of these brain parasites (causing people to do dumb things) than authorities know about.

    Jokes and sarcastic comments are never as funny when you have to explain them.

    Are you in California?

  28. Re:At Some Point... by redneckmother · · Score: 2

    It's the same things a Texas being condemned for a low graduation rate without recognizing the huge number of illegals that can't speak English and don't stick around long enough to graduate.

    On the other hand, people from Texas do tend to be morons...

    Hey! I resemble that remark, you insensitive clod!

  29. great doctors... by nazsco · · Score: 2

    In the late 1980s she complained to American doctors of a pain so absolute it blinded her and made her vomit.

    They gave her Tylenol.

    And that's why i avoid all facets of the USA medical system like the plague.

  30. Re:At Some Point... by LSDelirious · · Score: 4, Funny

    But if we run the immigrants off our lawns, how will they mow them?

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  31. Re:At Some Point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Its about the doctor realising that the person who came to them multiple times with "Debilitating headaches" might actually have this condition

    Lots of people have debilitating headaches. To a reasonable approximation, no one gets neurocysticercosis. There are at least three orders of magnitude between "debilitating headaches" (lowballing at 1% per year, 1:100) and neurocysticercosis (overgenerously, 1:100,000 per year). That means at least 1000 MRIs on people with "debilitating headaches" to find one case of neurocysticercosis. At $2000 per MRI, that works out to $2,000,000 just for the MRIs. Or you could give all 1000 people steroids and antiparasitics and get X number of bone fractures, Y number of hyperglycemic episodes, Z number of psychotic episodes, AA number of opportunistic infections, BB cases of severe diarrhea, etc. etc., all on people who don't have neurocysticercosis. Neurocysticercosis doesn't get diagnosed until there are focal neurological signs, or other red flags, that lead down the "brain mass" diagnostic route.

    This is why extremely rare disease with extremely common symptoms don't get diagnosed early. It would be malpractice, immensely wasteful and harmful, to test and treat someone for every 1:100,000 disease for their headache before working through all of the more common ailments, because 99.999% of the time they don't have the 1:100,000 disease.

  32. Re:At Some Point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give them the tools first, then chase them around in a regular pattern that starts from your door, covers the whole lawn and ends at the gate.

  33. Much is explained by slk · · Score: 3, Funny

    An outbreak of brain parasites would explain just about everything that happens in Sacramento

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