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GNOME 3.6 Released
kthreadd writes "Gnome 3.6 is out. The announcement reads: 'The GNOME Project is proud to present GNOME 3.6, the third update to the 3.x series. This latest version of GNOME 3 includes a number of new features and enhancements, as well as many bug fixes and minor improvements. Together, they represent a significant upgrade to the GNOME 3 user experience.' Andreas Nilsson, President of the GNOME Foundation, said: 'The GNOME Foundation is proud to present this latest GNOME release, and I would like to congratulate the GNOME community on its achievement.' He described the release as 'an important milestone in our mission to bring a free and open computing environment to everyone.' New applications include Clocks and Boxes. Clocks is a world time clock, which allows you to keep an eye on what the local time is around the world. Boxes allows you to connect to other machines, either virtual or remote. For developers there's the new GtkLevelBar widget in GTK+, and GtkEntry can now use Pango attributes."
not only is their logo a smelly foot, but they haven't fixed the usability issues from the previous versions!
too bad the 'k' in KDE stands for krap.
Left for xfce ages ago have not looked back. I hate revolutionary changes.
The great thing of this release is that you don't even have to download it.
Just keep your machine off, and you'll experience GNOME 3.6!
using just a simple WM like fluxbox, I srsly don't get why ppl use DEs. At all.
I guess now that QT is GPL the whole GNOME toolkit is second choice. And even Canonical replaces Gnome by Unity.
Only die hard fans will be keen to find out which features were removed this time.
Does anybody still care ? Legitimate question.
Adios Gnome.
mate-desktop.org
It still sucks. Stick with MATE.
Happily running KDE. Stable, pretty, highly configurable, defaults require minimal tweaking by me, just does the job. Kubuntu introduces some minor blemishes but survivable. Had to run Windows for a few days, was impressed what a poor experience it is compared to KDE. Just one of many annoying Windows habits: likes to wake up from sleep in the middle of the night and nag me about spending money on McAffey and Norton. Likes to shut down without asking instead of sleep if I make the tinyiest miss with the mouse. Like to reboot a lot. Sometimes just acts strange until rebooted. Argh.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Both users are thrilled!
(They are the two remaining developers.)
Do they have even one developer who actually owns a touchscreen device yet?
http://rocknerd.co.uk
I'll just get these out of the way for anyone who feels compelled to post them.
<sarcasm>
GNOME 3 is the worst desktop ever!
Actually, Unity is even worse!
This is why Linux on the desktop will never succeed!
GNOME 2 was the only decent Linux desktop!
I haven't seriously used Linux for 10 years, but I know that my Mac is 1000x better in all possible ways!
</sarcasm>
Personally, I'm looking forward to checking out the new GNOME.
Still on GNOME 2 (with CentOS 6.3).
I sure hope RHEL doesn't go for this tripe for their next release. If they do, I'll finally have a good reason to switch to one of those tiling, mouse driven, low resource WMs*. Only reason I use GNOME 2 right now is because I can easily make it look like GNOME 1 did... pretty much all I need to do is get rid of the top panel and re-arrange things in the bottom panel.
Still relevant:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
* anyone have any good suggestions?
I switched from kde to openbox some time ago.
Although I can't quite remember why i didn't choose fluxbox.
I think it was because I wanted to try something new.
Unity (the Ubuntu shell, not the game engine) is based on Gtk, not Qt.
There was a Qt version, but it's no longer developed.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
"Daddy, what's GNOME?"
Obligatory post describing my preferred environment that is not GNOME 3.
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I think gnome 3 is great. At first no, but when I got used to it I really fell for it. Not sure why everybody hates on it so much... It might not be a one size fits all but its great for smart people! Sorry all you dump people who can't learn something new.
(i kid)
Clocks is a world time clock, which allows you to keep an eye on what the local time is around the world.
That's awesome! I never thought I'd see the day where you could get a clock on your computer.
Do I really need to switch to GNOME for this?
Surely others will port this marvel to other platforms?
I'm sure something could be figured out, perhaps using a stick in the ground?
I don't see anything in this announcement that tells me they have wound back some of the bats**t crazy design retrogressions in the 3.x release. Clocks? Wow... let me just pick myself up off the floor while I recover from the excitement at this prospect. How about making it a usable D.E. like GNOME 2.3x was? I'm now happily using KDE again and will continue to do so for some time for as long as the bats**t effect doesn't infiltrate KDE or until GNOME 3.x is actually usable. And if Apple can find their way to releasing a Mac that doesn't have a built-in screen, miniscule form factor, or is overkill like the Mac Pro that costs an arm and a leg, I might even consider switching to that. But as for GNOME 3.x, it's dead to me :-)
I'm curious to give Gnome 3 a spin (not Unity). Can anyone recommend a relatively pure up to date Gnome Distro? preferably apt based?
I'd like to hear from people who have used GNOME 3.6. Is it actually usable for sofware development?
Does it fit any kind of reasonable workflow?
Or is it just full of eye candy for the end-user?
-- hendrik
When I'm not on OS X my Linux boxes are happily testing and running KDE 4.8.2 and GNOME 3.4.2 from Debian. I look forward to 3.6 and especially the day I can modify the magnetic attraction to the upper left corner that takes control of my mouse when moving menu windows and I happen to miss. I also look forward to being able to not have my applications always launch and position themselves upper left (0,0) [relative to the menu top bar] of Gnome which often has me dealing with the mouse flying up and bringing out the hidden list of application options. I cannot effin' stand KDE's little widget approach--embarrassing relative to OS X, and it's Plasma puke all over the desktop environment so I reduce it's presence to the limit allowed.
The experience for both is different but grow on you. GNOME 2.x is overtly dated and always looked like an aborted version of the old Mac OS desktop. WindowMaker reminds me of how little people understand NeXTSTEP and what Keith Ohlfs and the Graphics Team at NeXT did to make it.
When Debian gets around to KDE 4.9.x I hope it's more refined because there are many areas [System Settings for example] that are just garbage, especially the toxic multimedia settings section
Many of us are aware of KDE's strengths.. for me, configurability, familiarity, visual appeal, stability and speed. One can make the interface visually dense and informative. Scrolling cpu/memory/network stats, rotating yawp weather reports, and various application status indicators are on my desktop.
Gnome3 removes me from this. I love the way it dynamically manages the virtual desktops, and the clean 'distraction-free' environment. I feel like I can reach 'flow' easier here. Simply hitting the 'windows' key or snapping the mouse to the top-left corner to visually see the desktops and their running applications, dragging my emacs or xterm sessions around as needed. It gives me a different and visual way to logically organize and partition the tasks at hand. Yes, KDE and Unity both support these features, too, but in my experience they're not quite as clean. Also, Gnome3's notifications system is brilliant, and I'm looking forward to the enhancements found in 3.6.
While many of the complaints of Gnome3 are valid, I do appreciate that Gnome has had the courage to try something different and controversial. It works for me.
1,500 Accessibility Options.. ..still cannot change a font or theme without a third party application.
OK OK.. Gnome 3.6 isn't terrible. It's a decent step forward but still the slow death march to tablet obscurity whilst purging every actual user is kind of disheartening.
I never used the early releases of Gnome 3, but coming from the latest KDE I'm actually pretty happy with 3.4. Needed to get a good number of extensions to customize it like I like it but it's sleek, good looking and easy to use. Looking forward to 3.6, it already looks like it's going to obsolete some extensions and overall make my desktop even smoother. Plus, it performs smoother than Compiz and Kwin, especially with resizing and 3D applications. Maybe 3.0 and 3.2 were crappy, but I'm not seeing where the hate is coming from now.
Then why do I still need to fucking restart gnome-shell every day? (yes, I know, it's the plugins, but it's totally unworkable without them and they claim to do a quality check before allowing them into the "app store"). Why Can't I arrange my workspaces the way I want to and assign hot keys to them? Why do I need to hack my way into the system to get something mundane like Xscreensaver working? All those features were in gnome2 already, there was a lot of mischief about these starting from gnome3 3.0 and they still haven't been fixed. Yet, somehow, they found time to add a bloody world clock to the gnome3 core? Come on, this is ridiculous, it was ridiculous starting from 3.0 and it will remain ridiculous until they stop this and fix the broken code and missing features they already had in gnome2.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
Or is it still, um, for lack of a better phrase, a kludge of "turn your computer into a mobile phone" - but better!
YankDownUnder Veni, Vidi, volo in domum redire
I installed Cinnamon the other day, and was almost tempted to switch to it from KDE, so I fail to see what's all this fuss about Gnome 3. Isn't that what Cinnamon uses under the hood?
(What do you mean I'm supposed to use Gnome 3 without Cinnamon?!?!?)
How good can be gauged when people say "don't use GNOME use Mint". Mint is Gnome shell extensions and demonstrate the fact that you can change the shell to resemble pretty much anything you like including a classic GNOME 2 style desktop.
Personally I think the GNOME 3 behaviour is mostly very good and far better than GNOME 2. It's discoverable, it's clean, it's task centric, it's extensible. While there is plenty of valid criticism there is also much which is irrational from people being used to the old way and being unable to countenance change of any sort. It's certainly not perfect and I could cite half a dozen gripes of my own but nothing which would make me want to switch desktops.
A new version of a UI-centric project, and there's not a single screenshot in the announcement. Yes I know the release notes covered it pretty well, but still, this is not how you communicate to users that you're on the forefront of visual thinking.
I thought all the developers more or less stopped using GNOME after about 2.
It doesn't matter how good a platform is - I think there were already a conclusion here on Slashdot that if you can't make your stuff compatible, you'll lose developers.
This is the biggest threat to Linux.
Maybe I'm wrong and 3.6 is really compatible all the way to GNOME/GTK2?
Gnome recives a lot of hate for a open source project. I've been using it since 1.2 And all I see is improvments. 2.x was much better than 1.x I've upgraded to 3.x and cannot think of going back ..
Anyone have a link to a list of the features they removed?
Seriously, Fuck Gnome 3.
I'll run XFCE till gnome pulls their head from their asses
Specifically, what is wrong with Unity?
Actually,
Gnome is alive and kicking.
would it be possible for this post to contain responses which don't just say which desktop they're using instead? I don't bounce on the mate posts and say HAHAHAHAHA MATE IS SHIT, I'M USING GNOME 3!!! honestly, get over it. If mate makes you happy, then stop whining and use it. I was hoping to read some interesting stuff about what's actually in 3.6 here. that "offtopic" flag is being seriously underused here.
I wrote my first program at the age of six, and I still can't work out how this website works.
.. on parole?
.. after it escaped?
.. as opposed to "in"? It definitely isn't in.