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The Sci-fi Films To Look Forward To In 2013

brumgrunt writes "Not every sci-fi film released in 2013 will be a sequel or franchise movie. Den Of Geek has highlighted the ten sci-fi movies that might just offer something a little different from the PG-13, family-centric norm." The list includes Elysium, from the writer/director of District 9. It's "set in 2159, where Earth has become so hopelessly overcrowded that the richest members of society live on a luxurious orbiting space station." There's also After Earth, directed (but not written) by M. Night Shyamalan, which stars Will Smith and his son Jaden. They "crash land on Earth at some point in the future, by which time it's become a dangerous place devoid of human life." And, of course, there's Ender's Game.

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  1. ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The sci fi movie to ender all sci fi movies...

    1. Re:ah, Ender's game by hardtofindanick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But the whole twist is the ending. I am afraid I will not be looking forward to it knowing how it ends.

    2. Re:ah, Ender's game by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      unfortunately Ender's Game didn't age well. It was awesome when I read it in the early 90's. Now, not so sure.

      Some of the main plot points depend on us believing that a smart psychopath 13-year old assumes great powers by posting wise articles on the Net. Well the Net is really here, and we have Slashdot and Twitter and blogs... we can post wisdom until cows come home and no great powers will have been gained.

    3. Re:ah, Ender's game by BLToday · · Score: 1

      But do you really? It said it was reworked from the novel. Maybe it's really not Ender but a clone of him, hundreds of years later with implanted memories. Clone Ender is not fighting the Formics but a human rebellion. The true twist, the final planet is Earth because the Hegemony was displaced by the rebellion and is battling back to regain Earth.

    4. Re:ah, Ender's game by Gnuontz · · Score: 2

      I think you are wrong, have you forgotten The King, CMDR TACO :)

    5. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without saying too much specifics...EXTREMELY minor spoilers for the book and film follow....

      They know the twist ending won't work. It's not being used. They're going for dramatic tension where the audience knows almost the entire time(if not actually the entire time). I know I'm going to see eventually it so I haven't read much more about it.

    6. Re:ah, Ender's game by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do wonder how much of the child-on-child violence they're going to retain in the movie, especially given that there are two rather brutal deaths.

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    7. Re:ah, Ender's game by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      The sci fi movie to ender all sci fi movies...

      I think that once Hollywood dies from all these sequels, remakes, and rehashes, I'll prepare a little speech. I'm sure there's a few things they'd want to have said and I don't mind being the speaker for the dead.

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    8. Re:ah, Ender's game by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Eh, the kids were asking for it...

    9. Re:ah, Ender's game by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      They're going for dramatic tension where the audience knows almost the entire time(if not actually the entire time).

      They're overestimating the audience. Virtually nobody remembered the way the original War of the World's ended when they saw the remake in 2005.

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    10. Re:ah, Ender's game by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2

      we can post wisdom

      [mythbuster]well, now, *there's* your problem[/mythbuster]

    11. Re:ah, Ender's game by MightyMartian · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Perhaps you could work in how great the Mormons are and how bad homosexuals are. That would certainly typify Orson Scott Card, perhaps the most loathsome man to write science fiction since L. Ron Hubbard.

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    12. Re:ah, Ender's game by vlm · · Score: 1

      I suspect its going to be an action and special effects demo reel with as thin a layer of plot "frosting" as possible. Like the latest star trek movie.

      Its kind of like hoping for a Ringo / Aldenata / Posleen movie.. it would just be a sci fi horror gore-fest shoot em up, pretty boring compared to the books.

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    13. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SWING... and a miss!

    14. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I meant they will directly tell the audience in the movie, not simply assuming they remember. They are telling them because they're assuming the spoiler is too obvious/widely known now.

    15. Re:ah, Ender's game by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      I once asked a friend what that book was about. He blurted it out and told me the ending. "Thanks, now I can't read it" says I.

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    16. Re:ah, Ender's game by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      You should have read it anyway. The ending was easy to work out early in the book and it was still enjoyable to read.

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    17. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The story and trials of building a leader is timeless. There is a reason that up until recently, it was listed on the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff reading list for junior enlisted, officer candidates and junior officers.

    18. Re:ah, Ender's game by Artifakt · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Ender's game is one of the movies NOT directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

      (And if anyone actually mods this informative, I hope somebody else mods me back to base score, please).

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    19. Re:ah, Ender's game by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Is it weird that I noticed virtually all of Orson Scott Card's books have a description of a nude boy in them at some point?

    20. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fair enough. That would be a cool twist.... Until he kills us all.

    21. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I read it just a week ago for the first time. It was a good book, but not great. Perhaps I was disappointed from the hype I've heard from others, I don't know. There were several questions left unanswered and a lot of the plot felt uneven--a lot of text concentrated on issues that weren't all that important to the plot (the wars--which were fun to read, but lacking in substance) while other more important issues were not given enough attention (I would have liked to see more of the machinations of Locke and Demosthenes and just how they rose to prominance--it felt like their entire careers transpired in a very short time). Certain characters (Locke) underwent changes which I just didn't buy.

      And then there was the twist ending--I knew there was going to be a twist, but did not know what it would be (the twist was touted as one of the best of all sci-fi; it was what enticed me to read the book in the first place). I was expecting a huge "woah!" moment, followed by all the moments of "of course, why didn't I see it coming, there were clever clues placed all through the book!" but that wasn't my experience. I was able to guess what the twist might be not from the beginning, but by perhaps 2/3s of the way into the book. I was really hoping for a big enough surprise that would make me want to re-read the rest of the story to see what clues I had missed, so it was a bit disappointing.

      Anyway, though, the book was fun to read, but I wouldn't call it amazing. That said, I'd probably enjoy the movie--perhaps they'd even fix some of the story balance issues. I'm just glad Jake Lloyd isn't getting the role.

    22. Re:ah, Ender's game by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Haven't see it yet, but isn't that sort of the whole premise of The Hunger Games?

    23. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now sharpen your axes, and I'll be ready to run. I was never that much impressed with Ender's Game, since I somehow see it as very much insprired by PKD's Time out of joint. Now more well done PKD on screen, that would be a sight to see. 0.02c

    24. Re:ah, Ender's game by Intropy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. It's not supposed to be a big surprising revelation for the reader. It's supposed to be a revelation to Ender, but just confirmation of growing suspicion to the reader. At least that's how I read it. There were far too many hints to the reader for it to have been intended as a surprise, and I'm usually the guy who does get surprised by these sorts of things.

    25. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it could be easily adapted to the modern view of the net with the right amount of implied hacktivism. Arriana Huffington pretty much pulled off that stunt. With a healthy dose of bot-netting and astroturfing, I think it's still plausible enough for Sci-Fi, and it fits even better with Peter's personality, in my opinion.

    26. Re:ah, Ender's game by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      you mean someone wrote a story that, for once, didn't include slavish amounts of pro-minority/female empowerment style political correctness at the expense of the suspension of disbelief? How refreshingly different! I'm glad he was able to include realistic depictions of people belonging to those groups, having both something to offer as well as flaws, within the context of their true natures instead of making them out to be super heroes because of their skin or gender. Most movies/books do the latter nowadays, and it's sadly predictable to the point of jarring the storyline and making it just another preachy political platform.

    27. Re:ah, Ender's game by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      No, I wasn't referring to Ender's Game directly. Back then, it just seemed a good story, albeit with a lot of prepubescent male nudity. After Card decided to spell out just how much he loathes and fears homosexuals, well, a lot of the subtext of Ender's Game starts to make more sense.

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    28. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think the twist might be much better if you didn't know a big twist was coming.

    29. Re:ah, Ender's game by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      What a twist!

    30. Re:ah, Ender's game by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      When I read it, I knew nothing about the author and assumed it had more to do with military culture, hazing, and bullying than anything else. I still think this was the intent. These days "loathing and fearing" homosexuals is attached to anyone who criticizes one in unrelated areas, or doesn't say how wonderful they are at every opportunity, so I don't know just how 'egregious' his statements really were.

    31. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. In The Hunger Games they were able to pull off keeping the violence (or at least the gore) off-screen for the most part. It sorta fit with the character in that the movie does a good job of focusing on showing Katniss's (the main character) point of view and she was trying to avoid the violence. That might work for Ender, but it might come off as strange.

    32. Re:ah, Ender's game by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Guessed ending about half way through. However, It's supposed to be a young adult novel, and I read it as an adult. So that might have had some influence on my ability to guess the ending. Also, I've always been pretty good at guessing the endings of movies and books. I find most of them pretty predictable. Sixth sense, I guessed the ending in the first 5 minutes. Moving wasn't very enjoyable once you had guessed the ending.

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      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    33. Re:ah, Ender's game by Dave+Emami · · Score: 1

      Haven't see it yet, but isn't that sort of the whole premise of The Hunger Games?

      Good point, hadn't thought of that. Haven't seen it either, but after a brief bit of research, it seems like the movie version upped the age of most of the younger characters. At least, most of the adolescent characters are played by people in their early twenties, and the pre-adolescent characters are played by adolescents. I suppose they could do likewise with Ender's Game, but then they'd be ditching the contrast between age and intelligence -- all of the kids are supposed to be incredible geniuses just by virtue of being picked for the Battle School, with Ender being a genius among geniuses, smarter than his own parents when he's just six. The older you make the kids, the less impressive that aspect is.

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      "The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
    34. Re:ah, Ender's game by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and the movie was really weak in terms of kid on kid violence. I found they skipped over the fighting scenes too much. In fact, I found they skipped way too many details in the movie to the point where a lot of stuff didn't even make sense. The book, though short, was so fast paced, and had so much content that the movie could have easily been longer than any of the Lord of the Rings films. To contrast with those books, which are probably 3 times as long, but contain so much that could be stripped out without losing the whole meaning of the story. Too much walking in LOTR.

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      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    35. Re:ah, Ender's game by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      LOTR were books about language. The movies stripped out everything. There wasn't even a single song in all of the books.

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    36. Re:ah, Ender's game by Main+Gauche · · Score: 4, Interesting

      " Well the Net is really here, and we have Slashdot and Twitter and blogs... we can post wisdom until cows come home and no great powers will have been gained."

      I couldn't disagree more.

      Consider Nate Silver. (See his wiki entry if you don't know who he is.) He is a smart guy who started off with baseball predictions, but his prominence shot up after he "posted his wisdom" essentially nailing the last presidential election state by state. There is no doubt that this lead to his prominence today (at a relatively young age).

      Secondly, regarding the rest of "us", I'm still waiting to find this wisdom of which you speak. And no, the occasional needle in the haystack does not count.

    37. Re:ah, Ender's game by icebraining · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell, he mostly follow the typical position of Abrahamic religions. Homosexuality is a sin, governments who legalize gay marriage should be destroyed. Also at one point he supported keeping laws banning homosexual behavior, apparently he doesn't anymore.

      Not surprising considering he's an important LDS member.

    38. Re:ah, Ender's game by Swampash · · Score: 0

      They could make a stinking turd of a movie and it would still be an improvement over the book.

    39. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually I believe that whole thread was an addition card made in a revised edition published later.

      Wikipedia: In 1991, Card revised the book. He made several minor changes to reflect the political climates of the time, including the decline of the Soviet Union. In the afterword of Ender in Exile, Card stated that many of the details in chapter 15 of Ender's Game have been modified for use in the subsequent novels and short stories. In order to more closely match the other material, Card has rewritten chapter 15, and plans to offer a revised edition of the book sometime in the future.[18]

    40. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're wrong about that. The Road Goes Ever On was in the book - as well as some of the songs that Aragorn and the Elves sang "O Elbereth...." etc...
      Merry and Pippin also sang a couple of songs as well.

    41. Re:ah, Ender's game by Mitreya · · Score: 1

      But the whole twist is the ending. I am afraid I will not be looking forward to it knowing how it ends.

      It's ok! Most of the audience would not have read the book

      Most of the movie audience of the LOtR has not read the books (or didn't finish because "it's boring"). And Tolkien is probably better known

      You're just one of the few unlucky ones :)

    42. Re:ah, Ender's game by immaterial · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, that is exactly what they did. Rather than being 6 to 11 years old, the kids in the movie appear to be 15-20.

    43. Re:ah, Ender's game by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Eh, Heinlein is a bigger ass...

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    44. Re:ah, Ender's game by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Heinlein got pretty bloody weird in his old age, and some of his later stuff got pretty depraved, but I don't think he ever reached the depths that Hubbard and now Card are plumbing.

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    45. Re:ah, Ender's game by cbhacking · · Score: 2

      It's rather interesting actually... his personal views on homosexuality and such do leak into his writing a little bit if you know to look for them, but but I think he still comes off better in that regard than most other popular authors if you consider the writing alone. The simple fact that he's willing to write gay characters, and even give them the occasional POV without making them sound like *completely* horrible people... that's more than a lot of other authors will do. I still can't bring myself to buy his books anymore, now that I know what he does with the money, but it beats either full-on expression of the "hide your gays!" trope, or blatant homophobia, as seems more common in writing these days.

      Obviously, I'm mostly talking about books other than Ender's Game here, but the discussion has (somewhat predictably) diverged onto Card himself. As for the movie, I'm thinking I'll follow the suggestion of a friend of mine: see the movie, then donate the full ticket price to an equal-rights/civili liberties group. That will more than offset the chunk that goes to the NOM or its ilk. If I don't think I'll like the movie enough to pay double the normal rate, I won't go.

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    46. Re:ah, Ender's game by ShoulderOfOrion · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't bet on it. Maybe the one ./ member who crawled out of the basement to watch the movie knows the ending. I still remember going to the 'Fellowship of the Ring' movie when it first came out, and hearing half the audience moan and whine 'whaaa, that's it???' as the movie ended just after Frodo and Sam took off across the river.

      Not only are you presuming a large portion of the audience has read the novel, you're presuming everyone in the audience can actually read.

    47. Re:ah, Ender's game by Evtim · · Score: 2

      The unrealistic assumption in the book is that you can stay anonymous on the NET once your voice starts to matter. That would never happen in reality - the moment you gain enough influence to show on the radar you are toast (metaphorically or even literally).

    48. Re:ah, Ender's game by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      It's not supposed to be a big surprising revelation for the reader

      I guess you're talking about the fact that it's not a simulation. That's not a spoiler for the movie as they reveal that early on There is another "twist": after the war, when Ender visits the alien's planet and finds the egg. That started off the whole bunch of sequels, which I found frankly boring and sanctimonious.

    49. Re:ah, Ender's game by Nostromo21 · · Score: 0

      Whatchu talkin bout Wiggin?

    50. Re:ah, Ender's game by Nostromo21 · · Score: 0

      AYBABTU FTW!!!

      Anyone else concerned that Ender only gets 5th billing, whereas Valentine is in 2nd pos...? Hmmm...

      Now, Old Man's War - there's a series they should turn into a movie. A lot more sex too than this kid's crap! :)

    51. Re:ah, Ender's game by Nostromo21 · · Score: 0

      Ya think? Check out the more intellectual *real science* fiction movies, like Moon, Love, Primer & Solaris, to name a few recent ones - they all probably barely made their budgets back at the box office. And there's that...*sigh*

    52. Re:ah, Ender's game by Omestes · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I haven't read any Hubbard for years, and never really like him. As for Card, I gave up on him shortly after he started revisiting the Ender series, and was ready to after reading Speaker for the Dead (talk about a tone reversal...). I have, though, pretty much read all of Heinlein. Some of his books are brilliant (obviously), but most of them are neither run of the mill naive 50's sci-fi, or misogynist, libertarian (not insulting the beleifs, just his version of it), power-fantasies. I recently re-read Stranger In a Strange Land, it was on of my favorite books, but reading it now... It kind of made me a bit amused, and a bit sick.

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    53. Re:ah, Ender's game by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Virtually nobody remembered the way the original War of the World's ended

      The Martians had no immunity to misplaced apostrophes?

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    54. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what they were for you. That's nice, I don't give a crap. The GP is correct: Too much walking.

    55. Re:ah, Ender's game by spiralx · · Score: 1

      Oh god yes, how many descriptions of babbling brooks, hillocks and so on does one book need? Bored the crap out of me when I read it.

    56. Re:ah, Ender's game by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      Anyone else concerned that Ender only gets 5th billing, whereas Valentine is in 2nd pos...? Hmmm...

      No, as there's no numbering in the article ;)

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    57. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people who gush over the book read it when they were teenagers. I read it when I was 25 and was over all the teenage BS. I didn't care for it really, but I do know if I would have read it when I was a teenage it would have been the best book ever.

    58. Re:ah, Ender's game by shinzawai · · Score: 1

      They're going for dramatic tension where the audience knows almost the entire time(if not actually the entire time).

      They're overestimating the audience. Virtually nobody remembered the way the original War of the World's ended when they saw the remake in 2005.

      You mean it wasn't terrorists? Repeat meme.

    59. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That started off the whole bunch of sequels, which I found frankly boring and sanctimonious.

      Speaker for the Dead is the best thing OSC has ever written.

    60. Re:ah, Ender's game by way2slo · · Score: 1

      That depends on where you post your wisdom.

      The book describes a USENET system that is used by professional political analysts to debate issues and post opinion pieces, the best of which get selected to news media publication. Eventually they both get hired by national papers to write regular columns.

      They were columnists, not bloggers. They cut their teeth on the professional level discussion boards, then started writing articles for legitimate news papers, and eventually became professional columnists for prominent new agencies.

      They were smart enough to realize that the path to political clout was not though a blog or an amateur discussion site, but by acquiring real jobs as columnists for the best news sites. We can post political genius all day on our Facebook page or here on Slashdot and it will not get us anywhere. However, if instead we became professional columnists and worked hard to get a regular column on the WAPO or NYT and posted our wisdom there...the political powers will begin to materialize.

    61. Re:ah, Ender's game by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      unfortunately Ender's Game didn't age well. It was awesome when I read it in the early 90's. Now, not so sure.

      Yep. Ender's Game (the novel) is essentially two adolescent fantasies (Kid Saves The World From Alien Baddies, and Plucky Kids Save The World From Government Baddies) uncomfortably fused into one. When I was late adolescent in the late 70's and read the original short, I thought it trite. When I was (well) post adolescent in the mid 80's and read the novel - my opinion went down considerably. The series itself has only (IMO) descended further from that not-so-lofty perch.
       
      But the political allegory and the (mistaken) notion that one can change the world by protesting on the 'net will sit well with a wide demographic, it'll make a mint.

    62. Re:ah, Ender's game by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      But the whole twist is the ending. I am afraid I will not be looking forward to it knowing how it ends.

      I'm imagine Robot Chicken's version of M. Night Shamwowallamallamaman popping out when Ender finds out. "What a twist!"

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    63. Re:ah, Ender's game by jandrese · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed that this movie is actually coming out. It's been in development hell for at least a decade now.

      That does make me concerned about the quality of the movie. Good movies don't tend to get stuck in development hell, usually what happens is someone with power notices the movie is shit and pulls the plug and leaves everybody else scrambling for resources.

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    64. Re:ah, Ender's game by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      But it's a babbling brook with a history. It was known to the First Men, and had a name and a nickname from the dwarves, and was the site of a battle (known by four separate names, of course) with the orcs, but only the elves know its true name, which was ...

    65. Re:ah, Ender's game by spiralx · · Score: 1

      Heh, don't forget a song. Or three, in different languages. I gave up before even finishing sometime while Sam and Frodo were going through Mordor, which was the same, but with rocks. There is no way I can see myself reading any of his "less fun" books ;)

    66. Re:ah, Ender's game by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Look how much they changed HHGTH for the movie.

      I wish the list wasn't firewalled offf here, I've seen trailors for some that look like they might be great movies. Looper is one, it came out last month. Can't wait for the DVD (maybe I won't, there's always TPB).

    67. Re:ah, Ender's game by fliptout · · Score: 1

      It's also the end to all sci fi novels.

      Terrible prose, predictable plot, poor character development, dubious moral messages.

      It is utter crap.

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    68. Re:ah, Ender's game by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      I liked Ender's Game more than SftD. I still have yet to read the 3rd book in the series or anything from the Ender's Shadow series. His books are good but I've heard that OSC personally is kind of a dick with some radical religious beliefs.

    69. Re:ah, Ender's game by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you could work in how great the Mormons are and how bad homosexuals are. That would certainly typify Orson Scott Card, perhaps the most loathsome man to write science fiction since L. Ron Hubbard.

      I agree. Great science fiction writers but horrible human beings. Battlefield Earth was an excellent book...forget about the movie with its butchered storyline, bad makeup/effects and John Travolta's hammy acting.

    70. Re:ah, Ender's game by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      Don't ruin it for me. I have yet to read "time enough for love", "The cat who walked through walls" and "Friday"

    71. Re:ah, Ender's game by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I learned a valuable lesson, though: skip all song lyrics and poetry tucked into prose. Not just with Tolkien, but with everyone. I've never missed anything important by skipping that stuff, and I've gained many unwasted minutes by doing so.

    72. Re:ah, Ender's game by davewoods · · Score: 1

      I saw Looper, it was pretty good, I liked it. Even though I think they paradoxically jacked up their timeline. I have not had enough time to sit down a plot it out, but at a cursory glance, it seems like a few events should not have happened like they did. Still enjoyable though.

    73. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You're just one of the few unlucky ones :)

      I read the book. I consider myself one of the unlucky ones too.

    74. Re:ah, Ender's game by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      I think he is referring to the cast listing on IMDb. Ender(Asa Butterfield), whom you would suppose is the main character is listed fifth while Valentine(Abigail Breslin) is listed second.

    75. Re:ah, Ender's game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds like they have you just where they want you.

    76. Re:ah, Ender's game by Cinder6 · · Score: 1

      I read it when I was twelve. It's important to note that it is a YA book, so people who read it at that age will likely enjoy it a lot more. Anyway, some of your complaints--namely those about Locke--are answered in later books. However, it's also worth noting that a lot of people don't really like those other books...

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      If you can't convince them, convict them.
    77. Re:ah, Ender's game by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      Ender's Shadow does this very explicitly. Bean figures things out on his own, which mostly "ruins" the surprise twist, but that was never the point of the novel anyway. And yet, there's still that revelation to Ender (and even Bean, if I remember right ... I'd have to re-read it to be sure) at the end. Very well done.

    78. Re:ah, Ender's game by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's pearls of wisdom scattered throughout Slashdot, but the moderation system only goes to +5. Maybe if it didn't have a limit, we'd see who the truly insightful posters really are?

      I can see it now, Locke (15369) and Demosthenes (16815) rise to prominence through their constant (Score:1500, Insightful) posts.

    79. Re:ah, Ender's game by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      That is my biggest concern, that the film adaption is going to be written with a disney tone in order to appeal to 13 year old kids.

  2. Best Sci-Fi: Past, Present, and Future? by akumpf · · Score: 0

    Ongoing best-of-sci-fi discussion here.

    1. Re:Best Sci-Fi: Past, Present, and Future? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Ongoing best-of-sci-fi discussion here.

      Slashdot's comments in this article are better.

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  3. After Earth : no thanks by csubi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't intend to contribute to a Movie Star promoting his son into Movie Star II, I'll rather go and see Elysium or Ender's Game.

    1. Re:After Earth : no thanks by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Well, at least he's trying to get his son to work for a living . . . Instead letting him blow all his dad's loot on drugs and whores, and becoming another Hollywood gossip story casualty . . .

      Son promoting worked well for Kirk Douglas . . .

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    2. Re:After Earth : no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't intend to contribute to a father/son team that have fucked up come classics with remake bullshit: I Am Legend, Omega Man and The Karate Kid.
       
      Burn, Hollywood, Burn.

    3. Re:After Earth : no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so well for Charlie Sheen, who ended up blowing all his own loot on drugs and whores, and becoming another Hollywood gossip story casualty . . .

    4. Re:After Earth : no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least the child's too old to remake The Goonies now.

    5. Re:After Earth : no thanks by hondo77 · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:After Earth : no thanks by csubi · · Score: 1

      Son promoting worked well for Kirk Douglas . . .

      After checking around on Wikipedia and IMDB: Michael Douglas started acting after the age of twenty and started in "also run" titles. Will Smith Jr has co-starred in two big movies with "stars" by the age of 12 : his father and Jackie Chan. Not to mention that the "Karate Kid (2010)" was just a typical Holywood-type rip-off of a movie to make big money.

    7. Re:After Earth : no thanks by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Emilio Estevez came out okay, though. So I'd say Martin Sheen's respectable at 50% success.

    8. Re:After Earth : no thanks by strikethree · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And why would you refuse to see something based on that reason? Jealousy? Envy? Throughout all of history, men have brought up their sons to do what they do. Blacksmiths, doctors, etc, all taught their sons their trades. Acting is a trade too. You were not lucky enough to have a father who could teach you things that would make you very wealthy. Mr. Smith's son is. Deal with it.

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    9. Re:After Earth : no thanks by csubi · · Score: 1

      And why would you refuse to see something based on that reason? Jealousy? Envy?

      None of the above - because the details above indicates that the movie is in fact a family enterprise and their foremost goal is not to entertain me but promote their careers.

      I will, on the other hand, buy Iron Sky. I loved G.O.R.A. They were both ridiculously low-budget compared to the what After Earth will cost but very entertaining movies, but they could not even get proper distribution in the US. I prefer giving my money to these guys, that's all.

    10. Re:After Earth : no thanks by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. You suspect that they just want your money and will provide no artistic integrity.

      I do hope that you will excuse me for reading in jealousy and envy when the only indication of your intent is this:

      I don't intend to contribute to a Movie Star promoting his son into Movie Star II

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    11. Re:After Earth : no thanks by csubi · · Score: 1

      No hard feelings :)

  4. Lest they forget... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 1

    ...the world is scheduled to end on 12/21/2012...

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    1. Re:Lest they forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've already made plans to spend the final days of the earth with my family.

    2. Re:Lest they forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't we had enough of that "the world is going to end because we've reached the end of the Mayan calender" shit? Not even the Mayans thought the world would end when their calender did.

    3. Re:Lest they forget... by vlm · · Score: 2

      Not even the Mayans thought the world would end when their calender did.

      Even if they did, whats their track record. Hmm wiped out. Not looking good. You'd think they would have predicted and avoided that.

      The classic psychic / mindreader defense. "So whats your name, what brings you here?" "If you're so good at prediction, why don't you tell me?"

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    4. Re:Lest they forget... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Exactly. It's not like your car suddenly dies when the odometer ticks over from 999999 to 000000, so why should we be worried when some arbitrary calendar system does the same thing?

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    5. Re:Lest they forget... by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 1

      Hehehe! That reminds me of the fortune teller who grabbed hold of me on a busy market in Varanassi (India) this is basically what was said:
      I can see the future! Shall I predict yours?
      Ehh, are you really good?
      Yes sir!
      Then why didn't you predict me saying no to you?
      But I am very good sir!
      Yes, yes thank you and have a pleasant day!

      Man he seemed surprised... It is always the same isn't it? Maybe it's a flaw in the educational system. Maybe we should have a fortune teller at the end of high-school as a sort of extra-exam.
      Option A:
      I see in the lines of your hand that you are being put back to the first year...
      Oh, no! Can that be true? But I studied so hard! (this is the one who should be put back to learn a little more)

      Option B:
      I see in the lines of your hand that you are being put back to the first year...
      And I saw from the moment I stepped in here that you are a scam! (congrats, off to university with you!)

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    6. Re:Lest they forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like your car suddenly dies when the odometer ticks over from 999999 to 000000

      It wouldn't surprise me at all if some modern cars couldn't handle it.

  5. The Good and the Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For those wondering, the Ender's Game adaptation is not supposed to be doing so hot according to outsiders that have seen it in production. As for "After Earth", well... it's just kind of a shame M. Night Shamylan keeps getting money. I imagine it's like meth for movie studios. You know it's just ending up terrible and ruining everything, but you pay up anyway.

    As for the good. Robot and Frank is supposed to an excellent little indie film, Elysium is more odd down and dirty Sci-Fi kickassery from Neil Blokamp, Pacific Rim is something like a Gundam/Giant Robot anime turned live action, and Gravity is supposed to be awesome as well as the most truly hardcore sci-fi pic of the bunch.

    1. Re:The Good and the Bad by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      As for "After Earth", well... it's just kind of a shame M. Night Shamylan keeps getting money

      He seems like a talented-enough director... but what kind of imbecile writes a plot where aliens who are advanced enough to achieve FTL travel - yet too stupid to wear basic protection against water, a substance deadly to them - want to invade a planet literally drenched in the stuff??!

    2. Re:The Good and the Bad by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      As for "After Earth", well... it's just kind of a shame M. Night Shamylan keeps getting money

      He seems like a talented-enough director... but what kind of imbecile writes a plot where aliens who are advanced enough to achieve FTL travel - yet too stupid to wear basic protection against water, a substance deadly to them - want to invade a planet literally drenched in the stuff??!

      Okay, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was screaming "THE ENTIRE FUCKING ATMOSPHERE IS FULL OF WATER YOU FUCKBAG!!".

      I'll be able to go back to Silver City on Nov 7, when the restraining order lifts.

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    3. Re:The Good and the Bad by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Okay, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was screaming "THE ENTIRE FUCKING ATMOSPHERE IS FULL OF WATER YOU FUCKBAG!!".

      So much for suspension of disbelief, eh? :p

      I'll be able to go back to Silver City on Nov 7, when the restraining order lifts.

      Do tell...! :D

    4. Re:The Good and the Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His movies LOOK great - the man truly has a good eye - but the plots and dialogue are always awful. He simply should not be allowed to write or rewrite.

    5. Re:The Good and the Bad by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Gundam has nothing to do with fighting giant alien monsters.

    6. Re:The Good and the Bad by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      For those wondering, the Ender's Game adaptation is not supposed to be doing so hot according to outsiders that have seen it in production.

      No one could give a meaningful opinion until the film is complete. Especially an SF film where they're acting in front of a green screen half the film. We know there is a good story so they're ahead of 90% of big budget films already.

    7. Re:The Good and the Bad by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Well, it was a "mommies and me" showing.

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    8. Re:The Good and the Bad by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      You lost me...

  6. The Forever War... by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... didn't make that list but it shows up in IMDB as being available in 2013.

    1. Re:The Forever War... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 2

      One of my all time favorite SF stories. Hopefully they won't destroy the story line, as was done when "Starship Troopers" was made into a movie. (IMHO)

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    2. Re:The Forever War... by timeOday · · Score: 2
      Except the book totally caved in the end.

      Both sides, after several thousand years of war: "oh, we thought you wanted the war! Oops, nevermind!"

      As if the ancient causes of a war would even matter by that point. c.f. today's middle east.

    3. Re:The Forever War... by dpilot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Many people felt that the "Starship Troopers" book was facist claptrap, and apparently the people behind the movie were some of them, so they turned it into a farce.

      IMHO, "Starship Troopers" is the story of The Bug War as told by a World War II veteran. "The Forever War" is the story of The Bug War as told by a Viet Nam veteran.

      Side note... In "Forever Free" it was interesting to see them make the armaments (especially the fighting suits) of "The Forever War" seem quaint and cute.

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    4. Re:The Forever War... by elistan · · Score: 1

      Interesting coincidence - I just finished the book at lunch today. I've read sci-fi for as long as I've been reading, but never read this one - for no particular reason. I felt I owed it to myself to read it when I found it at Half Price Books, since it's considered a classic in the genre. Honestly though, while it was well written and good to read, it didn't strike me as anything special. Possibly because I wasn't an adult during the time it was written? (Despite there being certain parallels between Vietnam and current military events.) Anybody care to contemplate how well a modern day movie adaption can be? I'm not sure.

    5. Re:The Forever War... by ThreeKelvin · · Score: 2

      Seriously?

      I loved Starship Troopers. The whole movie was a brilliant commentary to the political situation in the US, and litteraly dripping with sarcasm. I mean, they even cast the main actors for their horrible acting performance. In that sense it was very true to the book, which, in its own time, was a great commentary on fascism.

    6. Re:The Forever War... by mattie_p · · Score: 1

      ... didn't make that list but it shows up in IMDB as being available in 2013.

      It probably doesn't make the list, because, despite IMDB's forecast, there is no data. Ender's Game is scheduled for release in November 2013, and has already filmed. I find it hard to believe that any movie with modern special effects for release in 2013 would not have completed filming already, much less be uncast.

    7. Re:The Forever War... by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

      I read that the writer of the screenplay didn't finish reading the book. It was too depressing.

    8. Re:The Forever War... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      One wonders how the people with the rights to one of Heinlein's best let such people gain creative control of it.

      When the book came out (it was considered one of his teens' books) people said, aghast, "But...but...but you glorified the military!"

      "You're damned right I did."

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    9. Re:The Forever War... by Brannoncyll · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree, Starship Troopers is one of my all-time favourite films. Over-the-top with gore and it doesn't take itself too seriously, plus, as you say, it's dripping with satire.

    10. Re:The Forever War... by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      Re:The Forever War.... didn't make that list but it shows up in IMDB as being available in 2013.

      Meaningless. IMDB will list any proposed film any idiot submits. You can find sequels for any film you imagine there, adaptations for every cult novel, they just move the "release date" forward every year so it's always "next year".

    11. Re:The Forever War... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that's bad, don't read the sequels....

    12. Re:The Forever War... by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      You may also enjoy "Armor," by Steakley, which is another take on the Bug War. Not sure what his credentials are, but it's a mostly personal and action-packed perspective.

    13. Re:The Forever War... by fliptout · · Score: 1

      I was a senior in hs when the Starship Troopers movie came out, and at the time I was bitter disappointed the movie did not follow the book. Now that I am older, I really appreciate the satire of the movie. Clearly the director found the brand of fascism in the book incredibly distasteful, so he effectively undermined the core messages of the book. I cannot think of any other instances where a movie is intentionally a satire/parody of the source material, but it works wonderfully here.

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    14. Re:The Forever War... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      I thought it was a wonderful film.

      I thought it was true to the spirit of the book too.

      The book showed a sort of a facist/liberatrian/only people who serve the government can vote type of society.

      The movie showed the same thing.

      But just like the cartoon violence in the Watchmen was okay but the video violence of the exact same things was incredibly horrible, the book Starship troopers didn't seem over the top because it was a book while the movie seemed incredibly over the top.

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    15. Re:The Forever War... by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I have been unable to watch Starship Troopers and enjoy it because it has about as much to do with the contents of the book as my comment has to do with whether or not there is ice on the moon. With Lord of the Rings, it was not so objectionable but Starship Troopers and not even a single mention of H&MP? History and Moral Philosophy was an absolutely central tenet of that book. It is not like leaving Tom Bombadil out (even though he was important to understanding some things).

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    16. Re:The Forever War... by Brannoncyll · · Score: 1

      I have been unable to watch Starship Troopers and enjoy it because it has about as much to do with the contents of the book as my comment has to do with whether or not there is ice on the moon. With Lord of the Rings, it was not so objectionable but Starship Troopers and not even a single mention of H&MP? History and Moral Philosophy was an absolutely central tenet of that book. It is not like leaving Tom Bombadil out (even though he was important to understanding some things).

      I had the fortune not to have read the book before watching the movie. I later tried to read the book but found it too slow for my liking (I may appreciate it more now that I am older). I had a similar experience with Dune; I saw the film before reading the book so I did not have any preconceptions. Of course the book is far far better but I do not hate the film, even though it strays from the book in so many respects. Learning from these experiences I have tried wherever possible to watch the film before reading the books (Watchmen, Hunger Games), and if a film/television adaptation of my favourite books appears later I pretend it does not exist until I have heard a suitable amount of praise that I am able to approach it with an open mind (e.g. Game of Thrones).

    17. Re:The Forever War... by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      THAT WOULD BE A F*CKING AMAZING MOVIE....I would think. The book was awesome. I Also liked "The Accidental Time Machine", also by Joe Haldeman

    18. Re:The Forever War... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      While the story takes place in parts of the US, the US is on the list of countries that doesn't mandate military service of it's citizens, in contrast to Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Turkey, South Korea, Brazil, etc.. (note that the draft is not quite the same thing and the US doesn't even have that anymore). Not to mention, when it was released, (1997), Clinton had reduced the military.
      But then the movie also takes place in the future.

      It was definitely a tongue-in-cheek campfest, I thought everyone would've picked up on the sarcasm.

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    19. Re:The Forever War... by Dabido · · Score: 1

      Lionel Hutts is going to sue it when he finishes his lawsuit against the Never Ending Story.

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    20. Re:The Forever War... by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      I prefer Armor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armor_%28novel%29

  7. "After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by mfarah · · Score: 2

    The description of said movie makes me think it's directly inspired by Dougal Dixon's After Earth book (available at http://www.amazon.com/After-Man-A-Zoology-Future/dp/0312194331 and other stores). A *great* read, I must say.

    Now, that movie shows promise... or it would, if Mr. ObTwist weren't involved. Still, getting to see a the heroes mounting a rabbuck might be worthwhile.

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    - Sledge Hammer
    1. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      Well, if it's any consolation Shamalamadingdong isn't writing it... he's just directing it. :) That should be enough to save it from the "twist" factor. :) At least I hope so.

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    2. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Can it save the film from the "SOMETHING HAPPENS... nothing much happening... SomeThinG HappeNs... nothing much happening... SOMeTHiNG HAPPpENs... nothing much happens... SOMETHING COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED HAPPENS... the end" that typifies his films?

      How that guy was ever let near a camera, let alone given the power to command where one was pointed is beyond me. He is sort of like the anti-Michael Bay, and like all polar opposites, exhibits completely different and yet completely kinds of suckage.

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    3. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I cannot comprehend why he is still allowed near movies in any capacity...

    4. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by boristdog · · Score: 1

      If only Will Smith could have been cast in some earlier film about a mostly depopulated earth...

    5. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      I've though for a while now that Shama- Shamus- Shamla- the Sixth Sense guy could have a had a comeback if he just found some good scripts and directed those. He knows how to put a movie together. Even stuff like Signs and The Village were fun to watch until you got to the bad twist ending. The guy can present a bad story well, as weird as that sounds. Unbreakable is still one of my favorite films.

    6. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Dougal Dixon never wrote a book called "After Earth"... so, what the heck are you talking about?

    7. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      "Ali"?

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    8. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by mfarah · · Score: 1

      After Man. My mistake.

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    9. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by mfarah · · Score: 1

      I concur, except for Mel Gibson's acting. I don't think there's any director capable of slapping MG back into proper acting, at all.

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    10. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Used to have a copy of that book. No idea where it went. Sheesh. $129 for a new copy? Out of print and dwindling supplies, I guess. $8 for a used one, though. I'm tempted.

      I remember the text being really anti-human and how Nature would never make the mistake of intelligence again after humans were gone. Cripes, lighten up, dude. I'm a complete, black-heated misanthrope, but even I don't advocate human extinction. I just want people to wake the fuck up. We have a lot of untapped potential.

    11. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Intropy · · Score: 1

      The Legend of Bagger Vance. It's like four people on a vast empty tract of grassland.

    12. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Glad I'm not the only one who has trouble pronouncing that name.

      The closest I can get is 'Charlatan'.

      People still know who I'm talking about.

    13. Re:"After Earth"? As in Dougal Dixon's book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, so Shamalaassaasdfsdf23 isn't writing it?

      What a twist!

  8. Ender... by Gnuontz · · Score: 1

    Postpone the Hobbit, if ever there was a movie that needed P. Jackson's ability to capture a tale.

  9. Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nope, sorry, seen Hollyweird fuck up entirely too many of my favorite childhood reads by "adapting" them into 90 minute suck-fests.

    I'll steer clear until they A) are thoroughly and positively reviewed by trusted peers, and B) become available on at least one of the streaming services I subscribe to.

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    1. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or c) are available on TPB, where I can download them and watch at the evening if I don't have anything better to do. I don't know any of the Hollywood film that came out in 5 years that was worth going to the movies. No really, name one, right now I have many evenings that are free. Please name that are a) not a re-run, b) not stupid, c) not predictable, d) not a video-game shit.

    2. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      "90 minute suck-fests"? If *only* ...

      Sitting through 90 minute suck-fests can be an enjoyable way of spending an afternoon out at the movies, or a lazy night in front of the TV. But it's almost impossible to do these days - all they seem to make is 210 minute suck-fests...

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    3. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 1

      +1 I think some of Iain M Banks' books would make great movies, but I don't want the way I visualise the characters and settings ruined by some Hollywod hack. Seeing Will Smith every time I think of Jernau Gurgeh? No thanks.

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    4. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can barely make it through a 9 minute suck fest. Wow, you two must be on the Vi@gra or something.

    5. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by neonmonk · · Score: 2
    6. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I can barely make it through a 9 minute suck fest. Wow, you two must be on the Vi@gra or something.

      Cialis and Vodka spritzer, works every time!

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    7. Re:Look Forward To? Maybe Not... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Seconded.

  10. Ender's Game by Jethro · · Score: 1

    Is there still time to stop this movie from being made and/or released?... Heck, I'll pay full ticket AND blu-ray price to see it never happen. Who's with me? If we give them enough money maybe they'll go away without ruining stuff.

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    1. Re:Ender's Game by suutar · · Score: 1

      It's cheaper to just pretend it's a completely unrelated story that happens to have the same name, and ignore it. See also "Starship Troopers".

    2. Re:Ender's Game by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      No, they are already busy coding the post-movie Game and other tie ins that go with it.

      Most revenues nowadays are not from the actual movie.

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    3. Re:Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoyed such films as Judge Helmetguy, Peter Jackson's Flaming Scary Eye trilogy, and Demoted Post-Captain: Russell Crowe's Imaginary Friend.

    4. Re:Ender's Game by Intropy · · Score: 1

      Starship Troopers is better if you pretend it's a completely unrelated story that happens to have the same name, and then you watch it anyway - as a comedy.

    5. Re:Ender's Game by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1
      "pretend it's a completely unrelated story that happens to have the same name, and ignore it. See also "Starship Troopers".

      See also too: "I, Robot"...

    6. Re:Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that was a completely unrelated story that happened to have the same name. 8)

    7. Re:Ender's Game by Swampash · · Score: 1

      You're worried about someone ruining Ender's Game? That's like worrying that dogshit might get dirty.

    8. Re:Ender's Game by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      The Lawnmower Man has to be one of the absolute worst instances of this.

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      There is a war going on for your mind.
    9. Re:Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only one of the sequels that is really worth reading is "Speaker for the Dead". I found it in some ways better than Ender's Game. Very different.

  11. I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I for one will boycot this crappy movie, whose with me?

    -Poopshoot.com

    1. Re:I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      I quite like Will Smith. He's the same character in every film I've ever seen him in, but I still like him.

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    2. Re:I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      I don't care who is in a film as long as the film is good. One my favorite films is Primer starring the indie filmamker who wrote/directed it, and a bunch of his friends. :-)

      Well, there are some actors who rub me the wrong way, and I will avoid films with them in it unless it has seriously positive word of mouth from people I know and trust on these matters.

      I can even be converted. Kiefer Sutherland grated on me when he was young (don't really know why... just one of those things), but then I got a kick out of his weird performance in Dark City, and went on to be a big "24" fan.

    3. Re:I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know who I miss? Eddie Murphy. He's exactly the same way. Hell, even when he's just the voice of some cartoon character, he's still Eddie Murphy.

    4. Re:I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you.

    5. Re:I'm tired of watching smith and his bratty son. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was a totally different guy in I Am Legend. (Shame about the rest of the movie. One of my favorite books of all time, and nobody can figure out how not to fuck it up.You'd think they'd understand that the ending is the whole point, and you can't change that, but nobody ever said Hollywood was smart.) I was pretty impressed with Wil Smith's range in that movie. He gets typecast a lot, but apparently he can act out of type if given a chance.

  12. Cloud Atlas comes out this month, not 2013 by heptapod · · Score: 2

    Also two films with Tom Cruise and Will Smith? Nope.

    Worse, the Will Smith film is filmed by M. Night Shamalamadingdong.

    1. Re:Cloud Atlas comes out this month, not 2013 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for Shamalamadingdong

  13. Bit early - try again after Christmas by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

    Bit early for this, isn't it? A lot of titles are TBA until after Christmas.

    As it is, there's a decent Sci-fi flick probably still playing near you (or will be playing at a later date); Looper.

    1. Re:Bit early - try again after Christmas by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      A second for this movie - definitely worth watching, keeps you guessing how the whole thing's going to be resolved until the end. One of the better science fiction movies I've seen in quite a while.

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    2. Re:Bit early - try again after Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am weary of sci-fi films about time travel and alternate universes.

      I'd rather have one Moon or Never Let Me Go than 1000 of the Source Code/Deja Vu ilk.

    3. Re:Bit early - try again after Christmas by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Time travel and alternate universes are exceptionally difficult to pull off, that's for sure.

      I still recommend watching it. If you don't want to spend the money on it, I say go ahead and download it when it becomes available at your favorite downloads site. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

      However, it is more of an action movie than Moon (which is practically anything but). I'm not even sure what to classify Moon as, to be honest. Multiplicity in space except all of them seem on the verge of saying 'hi Steve'? An existentialist piece that got out of hand? A coming home/sacrifice drama?
      I thoroughly enjoyed it, mind you, but it's not for everyone. But as I enjoyed both, perhaps you would, too.

  14. The Last Mimzy by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    Mimsy Were the Borogoves by Lewis Padgett is one of my prefered science fiction short stories, pretty close to the top if not the top one. The Hollywood adaptation teached me to not assume anything about movies based on good books, specially now.

  15. Mark Walberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the deal? Is Mark Walberg the action star for geeks?

  16. What about the one with.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the one where a drought hits much of the US devistating crops. This causes an increase in food prices, and ends up causing large scale starvation and unrest in undeveloped and developing countries?
    It's due out in early 2013. It's called "The News".

    1. Re:What about the one with.... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Looking forward to the sequel: "The Triumph of the Austerity" ...

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  17. Alfonso Cuarón by fm6 · · Score: 1

    I read through the list feeling more and more cynical. Adaptation of best seller, staring on Screen Saint Thomas. Plotless CGI movie. High concept CGI movie. Comic horror movie. And so on... Some of these will have their fans, I guess, but I find it hard to care about them.

    Then the last one on the list is a new movie from Alfonso Cuarón. Finally! If you've seen Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban or Children of Men you'll know this is the only big name director who understands all the little touches make an imaginary world plausible. Probably the only movie on the list I'll bother with.

  18. We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by rizole · · Score: 1

    I have kids so don't keep up. The last two 'Sci Fi-ish' movies I rated was 'Moon' and 'Sucker Punch.' Have I missed much?

    1. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Moon' 'Sci-Fi-ish'? That was a very solid scifi movie, and leaps above the usual crap out of Hollywood these days...

    2. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      'Good' depends mostly on your taste, doesn't it?

      And you didn't note how you rated those two titles - which are about as different as movies get to be and the latter can't really be called Sci-Fi at all - so that's no help.
      So I'll try and go by audience reactions over here where I live.

      The Lockout was skippable
      Prometheus was visually neat but story-wise quite underwhelming. Still, if you enjoyed the Alien(s) movies, might as well hit this one up.
      John Carter was skippable.
      Chronicle had promise but ended up disappointing (that's what you get when you cater to teens, I suppose)
      Men in Black 3 is worth it only if you enjoyed MiB 2.
      Total Recall was not too horrible - just don't compare it to the original (despite some fun cameos and hints at the older title)
      Battleship, visually nice but skip.
      Seeking a Friend for the End of the World is not really sci-fi but I guess if you enjoyed Moon then this may be okay too.

      Iron Sky wasn't released here, so can't comment on that one.

      Dredd (does that count as sci-fi, really? I excluded Avengers) and Cloud Atlas aren't released here yet, so no comment on those either.

      Looper I'll go ahead and call 'good'. Might still be playing where you live / will be playing soon.

      Slightly on the fringe of Sci-Fi, try Cabin in the Woods. I'll go ahead and call that one 'good' as well, although the very, very ending is lackluster. Must have run out of budget making awesome happen during most of the rest of the movie.

    3. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by ianare · · Score: 1

      You forgot District 9, which I would recommend. Good plot: actually gives the viewer some things to think about, as opposed to "aliens bad, people good" type stuff. Good visuals: special effects and CGI believable, also the camera switching technique was interesting.

    4. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Sucker Punch is the best movie ever made that sucked terribly. I have no way else to describe it.

      Parts of it were magnificent and could have been dragged-and-dropped right into Sin City. Some of the action, though, was just godawful irritating, especially the shakey-cam during the pneumatic Nazis fight. In an action movie.

      Don't blame Babydoll, though. She was awesome.

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    5. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that was a film from 2009, and we were trying for this year.

    6. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about The Avengers? It had a man wearing a robotic suit, and a flying aircraft carrier, and wormholes, and aliens. That qualifies as sci-fi, doesn't it?

    7. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cabin in the Woods is season four of Buffy the Vampire Slayer with a movie budget and no Buffy.

    8. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Whoa - where do you live that District 9 only came out this year? ;)

      But yes - good movie. Was hoping for a sequel to coincide with the alien's suggestion for return in N years. Alas.

      Then again, I hoped that for StarGate:Universe... what can I say, I'm a dreamer.

    9. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's a bit of a problem with a lot of titles. Moon, for example, is a completely different form of Sci-Fi than, say, Contact, which in turn is completely different from Sunshine, etc.

      I excluded Avengers and such because I'd sooner put them in the Superhero Movie category.

      Obviously, though, Cabin in the Woods is also not quite Sci-Fi. But it's also not expressly a Horror movie, or a Fantasy movie. It has hints of Shaun of the Dead (itself labeled a 'zomedie' because zombie movie / comedy blend), but also of a myriad of 'puppeteer' type movies such as Mindhunters.

      There's some sci-fi elements to both Avengers and Cabin in the Woods... but an arbitrary and rather squiggly line has to be drawn somewhere.

    10. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      Moon was awesome. Great performances by Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey

    11. Re:We're there any good Sci Fi movies this year? by hman · · Score: 1

      Oh I terribly recognize myself in this comment. Even if I carefully avoided Sucker Punch (substitute with the Aronofsky wonderful oldy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(film)).
      Being a father with (multiple) small kids really changes your schedule and priorities.

  19. Sci-fi fans won't spend money anyway by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    And, when they do they're just going to hyper-analyze and bitch about ever little detail trying to make themselves feel smart. Go check out imdb.com forums on any sci-fi movie released in the last 10 years. If I were a Hollywood producer, I sure wouldn't put *my* money up to get one made.

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    1. Re:Sci-fi fans won't spend money anyway by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Why? It would be cheap to pass the technobabble through a typical nerd and get it repaired so it doesn't irritate.

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    2. Re:Sci-fi fans won't spend money anyway by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      I believe the problem with sci-fi fans is that they've become quite jaded at this point.

      The vast majority of "sci-fi" movies that get released these days could better be described as "Action/horror, IN SPACE/IN THE FUTURE! (With extra romantic segments to attract the "girlfriend demographic" and comic relief characters to draw in the kids and maximize the merchandising potential of the franchise)".

      Hell, lately I've taken to going through fantasy movies from the last ten years or so, amazingly enough a lot of them feel closer to actual sci-fi than most of the movies the studios try to market at sci-fi...

      (Yes, I know there are exceptions, like Moon and a few others, but just go look at what the major players consider "sci-fi" right now, how much of that is actually sci-fi? Most of it is on a Star Wars/Space opera level, it's not even soft sci-fi)

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  20. Glad to see overpopulation is the focus in Elysium by concealment · · Score: 1

    This issue is chronically ignored, but the fact remains that earth is finite and no matter how "carbon neutral" we all try to be, at some point we'll create too many people to both have those people and any kind of natural environment as well. If we had orbiting colonies today, the rich would go there to escape the clutter, pollution, violence, corruption, etc. of life on earth. Maybe Elysium will be like the Idiocracy for future generations.

  21. 6 degrees of will smith by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    I doubt Smith would do anything other than PG-13 with his son, or without ... his days of doing anything edgy vanished with Six Degrees of Separation. In my opinion, he's on the Adam Sandler plan of "make a bazillion dollars doing the least challenging acting roles possible."

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    1. Re:6 degrees of will smith by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      I'm no Will Smith fan, but comparing him to Adam Sandler, that is totally uncalled for.

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    2. Re:6 degrees of will smith by ianare · · Score: 2

      After seeing I robot, I simply can't trust him to do science fiction.

    3. Re:6 degrees of will smith by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      yeah, that was a bit harsh.

      i've never seen the fresh prince make a fart joke.

      of course, i've only seen like 10% of Smith's movies because I can't stand watching the guy's one-dimensional affectations, but hey, i'm a dick.

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    4. Re:6 degrees of will smith by Mitreya · · Score: 1

      After seeing I robot, I simply can't trust him to do science fiction.

      You can't possibly blame Will Smith for the I, Robot disaster? He was neither a director nor a writer. Blame the director ("Alex Proyas")

      I also love it that IMDB says
      Isaac Asimov (suggested by book)

      That's certainly accurate. The title and some of the names in the movie were indeed suggested by the book...

    5. Re:6 degrees of will smith by cbhacking · · Score: 1

      Well, and the laws of robotics (not I, Robot specifically, but Asimov in general).

      And the concept of exploring what happens when a robot built with the three laws is put in command over human civilization.

      And the idea of the "zeroeth law" (which comes directly from the previous two points).

      And... yeah. Look, I'm not trying to claim it was a great movie in any way, shape, or form, but a lot of the criticism leveled at it is unfair. No, it wasn't a film re-enactment of a series of short stories from a time in Asimov's writing when, for some reason, true AI was considered more realistic than pocket calculators. Is that really what you wanted? The movie is based on some of the ideas explored in the book, and in one story in particular, expanded to full-length and given a bit more attention to character development than Asimov almost ever bothered with. Review it from that point of view, and while you may well still find it lacking, at least you might actually have a valid reason for doing so...

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    6. Re:6 degrees of will smith by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      You decided that from I Robot? I came to that decision when I saw Independence Day.

  22. Whatever happened to... by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Whatever happened to 'Iron Sky'? Wasn't that supposed to be out by now?

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    1. Re:Whatever happened to... by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      It just came out on disc in the last week or two.

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    2. Re:Whatever happened to... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      So it went straight to disk? Well, that's disappointing.

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    3. Re:Whatever happened to... by ThreeKelvin · · Score: 1

      Nope, I saw it at the local cinema, I don't know, perhaps a couple of months ago?

      I expected it to be a horrible movie, but it turned out to be a quite enjoyable B-movie instead.

    4. Re:Whatever happened to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iron Sky was screened in NZ a month or so ago.
      It is not "SciFi" IMHO.
      It is a really fantastic black comedy and a SciFi pisstake.
      Guess the MPAA had it banned in "the states".

    5. Re:Whatever happened to... by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Iron Sky had potential. I would have loved to have seen the actual "nazis on the moon" idea taken seriously with a decent budget. Instead what they put together was a crummy near-slapstick comedy with crappy writing, ham-fisted acting and overall poor production values.

      Lots of my friends went on about how amazing it was so I made the mistake of seeing it, turns out my friends just have hard-ons for space nazis...

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    6. Re:Whatever happened to... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Okay, apparently it was shown in one po-dunk little one screen theatre I've never heard of back in August. Well, Now that Rogers and Blockbuster have shut down all their brick and mortar shops, the nearest video rental store is over 100km away.

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  23. Rama by davegaramond · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where's the promised Rendezvous With Rama? I want to see the cylindrical sea, dammit.

    1. Re:Rama by Noughmad · · Score: 1

      Having just finished it, I support this notion. It even has great potential for a trilogy. Unfortunately, it has no major conflict, so I it's more like a documentary than a Hollywood movie.

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    2. Re:Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, it's not going to happen. Check out the wiki page on the book for more information.

    3. Re:Rama by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      I read that book. It put me to sleep. I haven't read any of the sequals. Surely, a better AC Clarke movie adaption would be Childhood's End.

  24. The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chris Carter, creator of The X-Files, has just this week agreed to direct and produce a Sci-Fi feature to be released early-mid 2013.

    It's still under wraps, but from what I've been told it has a great script, and is set (or maybe only shot) in New Zealand, although there are no hobbits or elves involved, and the cast is almost entirely American.

    Carter directed the disappointing second XF movie, although most if not all of the criticism was aimed squarely at the story and writing, which was mostly the work of Frank Spotnitz, who had just come off the Night Stalker TV show.

    The direction was generally quite praiseworthy, which isn't all that surprising, considering Carter wrote and directed some of the all-time best episodes of The X-Files, so it will be interesting to see how this movie turns out.

    1. Re:The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The couple seasons without Mulder sucked balls. But there were some great eps no doubt about that. And it is still my favorite television show of all time even tho Breaking Bad is getting up there. The producer of BB was also a producer on TXF. Carter is going to have to do a lot better than those last seasons and the last TXF movie or he may as well go retire.

    2. Re:The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still in love with Scully.
      By in love I mean I want to fuck her brains out.

    3. Re:The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Chris Carter? I hope he finishes writing the plot before filming this time.

    4. Re:The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like it's been written by someone else. And aren't you blaming the wrong guy if you're talking about TXF3?

    5. Re:The X-Files's Chris Carter in 2013. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TXF2 not TXF3. My mistake.

  25. Ender's game may not be in 2013 by Causemos · · Score: 1

    The main company doing the CGI work (Digital Domain Media Group) went under and was sold off. It was a quick sale, but no word if things are still on schedule.

    http://www.endersansible.com/2012/09/24/digital-domain-acquired-by-reliance-mediaworks-and-galloping-horses/

  26. Devoid of human life by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    But is there ape life?

  27. Re:Glad to see overpopulation is the focus in Elys by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    From what I've heard of the movie before, overpopulation in particular isn't the focus of the movie so much as general environmental destruction and wealth inequality. In any case it should be a good old-school dystopian sci-fi movie and piss off right-wingers so I call that a win/win.

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  28. do not give the rich idea's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all we need is them to keep earth as a prison world and both of these do nothing new ....zero....avengers was about the only decent sci fi
    and its an american progranda piece

  29. Please no more sequels and re-makes by k6mfw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's enough Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. And no more remake of movies from 20th century. And whatever movie that will be made, increase writer's budget by 500% and cut special effects budget by 80%. Yes, it's a bitch to produce a movie with a compelling story that engages the audience. If CGI is used, remember a good story and nobody will notice the CGI (sounds weird but it's true, like reading a good book you become so drawn into the story you don't notice if fonts sans serif corrupted).

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    1. Re:Please no more sequels and re-makes by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      Sounds like what you're hoping for is for movies like C to be made. Hopefully you pledged for it when it ran, then:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1282316546/c-299792-km-s

      It's slowly, but surely, coming along.

      It may be a total bust, mind you. But at least they've got your dislike for CGI budgeting covered.

  30. WTFingF by PsyMan · · Score: 1

    WTF, I just read on the side of a bus a movie called (or at least marketed as) "This decades the matrix", why on earth would any movie worth it's salt have to stoop so low? I can't remember the actual name of the movie but I simply remember that marketing. WTFingF , anyhoo, drunk as the lord and just replying to stuff. :D

    1. Re:WTFingF by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      "Looper", near as I can tell, is what you're talking about.

      Meh. Two weeks after Mel Brooks' Men In Tights was released, they were running ads on TV that it was so good you should go see it again. Just screamed, "Don't go see it the first time."

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  31. really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tell that to star wars , star trek and battle star galactica fans....oh and you might want to see what films make hte most money...its aint your crap fest drama shows...

  32. Re:Glad to see overpopulation is the focus in Elys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The current estimates of global population put it at 10B before it starts to decline due to slowing birthrates in most parts of the world, not over population or lack of resources.

  33. Elysium a nod to William Gibson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Tessier-Ashpool is a fictional family appearing in William Gibson's Sprawl trilogy novels. The family owns Freeside, a space station shaped like a spindle Bernal sphere constructed in high orbit. The family resides in the Villa Straylight, which occupies one end of the spindle.

    The family is organized and run as a corporation, Tessier-Ashpool S.A.. Family members are kept under cryogenic stasis and thawed out periodically so that governance of the family is cycled between members. According to "orbital law" they are legally dead while cryogenically preserved..."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessier_Ashpool

    1. Re:Elysium a nod to William Gibson? by Smauler · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's a nod to Gibson personally, the similarities just aren't quite there - it could be a nod to Scott Brown though.

  34. Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0 counts as a "sfi-fi film," despite being animated. I'm also anticipating it will be better than its western knock-off, Pacific Rim.

    Too bad it's only being released in Japan on November 17th. Apparently Studio Khara and T-Joy hate international money too much for a worldwide release. Shaft and its distributors announced western screenings for the Puella Magi Madoka Magica movie, which sold out very quickly.

    Oh well, I guess only the studios miss out on money, because I'm going to watch it anyway.

  35. Obligatory xkcd etc etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://xkcd.com/635

  36. Neuromancer is not in the list ? by Clived · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmmn
    I was under the impression that Neuromancer was coming out in 2013 ? The director is the same guy who directed Splice. I was looking forward to that. ..:P

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  37. No love for the upcoming P-51 Dragon Fighter? by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

    It's gonna be great! Academy awards, no doubt!

  38. Totally caved? Re:The Forever War... by Fubari · · Score: 2
    "Totally caved"?
    I didn't see it that way. In the story, the "Ohhh!" moment didn't come until Human++ thinking (the emergent mind of a cloned population) could see things from a different perspective. In aggregate, contemporary Humans are sharply bounded in their ability for rational decisions (as per your Middle East reference; notable but not unique, any long running conflict could serve as a similar example). Haldeman was suggesting that Human++ thinking could work better than what we can do now, or at least that it took Human++ thinking to see the former opposition more clearly.
    Also note: I liked that Human++ encouraged independent genome repositories vs. Borg-like assimilation.
    Forever War was a very enjoyable and thought provoking read - exactly why I like scifi.
    (I'm looking forward to checking out Forever Free, I just learned about that in this thread.)

    Except the book totally caved in the end.

    Both sides, after several thousand years of war: "oh, we thought you wanted the war! Oops, nevermind!"

    As if the ancient causes of a war would even matter by that point. c.f. today's middle east.

    1. Re:Totally caved? Re:The Forever War... by Brannoncyll · · Score: 2

      (I'm looking forward to checking out Forever Free, I just learned about that in this thread.)

      I wouldn't bother, seriously. It has an ending worse than the Dark Tower series' descent into 'Oh look these robots are flinging about Harry Potter (TM) snitches!'. I loved the Forever War, but this 'sequel' is one of the few books that has made me embarrassed for reading it.

      On the other hand, Forever Peace, which is by the same author but is not a sequel (different universe, different take on war but similarly thought-provoking to the Forever War), is excellent and well worth reading. You can pick up all three Forever books in the Peace and War omnibus so you can make up your own mind, although Amazon do not appear to be selling them new anymore.

  39. Ender's Game by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I read Ender's Game a few years ago and loved it. (Also, Ender's Shadow did very well portraying the same story from the POV of a different character; I haven't read other Ender's books) I'll see if it holds up for me now. I might be curious about the movie anyway unless the reviews suck.

    I'm not much of a movie guy in general, so I'm not looking at the other 9.

    They exclude sequels and remakes, fair enough, but I'll also see a few sequels/remakes for things I liked the first time.

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  40. Re:ah, Ender's game (spoiler) by khallow · · Score: 1

    But the whole twist is the ending.

    It wasn't that much of a twist. One doesn't burn out their chief leadership assets for practice. And the aliens played just too well to be a simulation. And of course, the narrative of the book spent way too much time on these games. I bet a lot of readers had this plot figured out.

    I think it would have been more realistic a book if some of the kids had figured it out too (Bean for example) and just decided not to tell. Imagine the reveal at the end when several kids are complaining about getting fooled and one says, "Oh yea, I figured it out from the third game on. I wasn't going to be the one to tell you guys."

  41. Re:ah, Ender's game (spoiler) by SteelZ · · Score: 1

    I think it would have been more realistic a book if some of the kids had figured it out too (Bean for example)

    You need to read Ender's Shadow.

  42. Bean actually did by cbhacking · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read Ender's Shadow (parallels Ender's Game, but from Bean's point of view) and you'll see that he definitely does figure it out. In fact, ho not only figures it out, he figures out *why* it's being kept secret, and doesn't tell the others. I suspect a few of the others may have figured it out too.

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    1. Re:Bean actually did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The endless saga of Ender. Oh, the irony of crap reiterations of a tired universe... I loved the first book though.

  43. Mars et Avril by Smartcowboy · · Score: 1

    This US-centric article missed the movie I wait for: Mars et Avril (english subtitled trailer). I read the visual novel and it look very promising if you don't mind some low budget special effect and like great storytelling.

    1. Re:Mars et Avril by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That trailer appears to depict a spacecraft in Mars's vicinity thrusting towards it -- is it about kamikazes making a new crater, or is it made for an audience of morons?

  44. Not a movie, and not 2012, but by chebucto · · Score: 1

    Red Dwarf Season X premiers tomorrow! Smegging 'ell, what more could you smegheads want? The full original cast! The original writers! A real model of the ship (no CG)! Filmed in front of live audience! Sure, it's an aimless dramady about a glorified roomba, a lazy slob, a smeghead and a cat, but it's still better than 99% of the sci-fi out there. I mean, how can you not love these guys?!

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    1. Re:Not a movie, and not 2012, but by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I made it through about 6-8 shows before giving up on it. Maybe it got better? Not sure, but the cat annoyed me enough to not want to watch any more.

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      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    2. Re:Not a movie, and not 2012, but by chebucto · · Score: 1

      It grows as it gets older; they find their feet around season 3 and, as I recall, season 6-7 are their peak. That said, if you couldn't stand season 1 then you probably wouldn't like the rest - it's not for everyone. For me, I like it for the silly comedy, the frankly sometimes quite clever and interesting plots, and the characters, which grow on you over time. The comedy is somewhat repetitive - each character has a stable of jokes which get repeated over and over. Cat prioritizes fashion above all else; Lister is a slob and can't play guitar; Rimmer is a coward and officious; Kryton .. he's the best, really.

      (The cat, by the way, is as good as the rest - his exclamations toned down after the first season, and he has his fair share of the good lines.)

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    3. Re:Not a movie, and not 2012, but by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'll try it again. I don't watch much TV, but (or maybe as a result) I expect a decent payoff, and it just wasn't compelling (enough) for the time spent. Maybe if I get a TV in the shop this winter I'll have more time to waste while I do other mindless hobby tasks. :-)

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      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  45. Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry.

    Teenage boys brawling in the shower aren't my style.

  46. No Songs THANK GOD...WORST PART OF ANY FANTASY IS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the authors attempt at writing fantasy

  47. Hyperion by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any news about the Hyperion movie? I am waiting eagerly.

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    1. Re:Hyperion by lymond01 · · Score: 1

      Great book(s). I think even the first book would need to be broken into at least two movies. Would probably make a good HBO mini-series.

    2. Re:Hyperion by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      That would probably be very good. I loved the book. However, the movie would have to be a series of stories as CreepShow and CatsEye were...bad movies but, the only examples I can think of at the moment.

  48. And in related news... by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    Arnold (The Guvernator) Schwarzenegger will release Total Recall: My Unbelievable Life Story in October...

    I am not making this up.

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    WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
  49. Fuck Ender's game, give me Moties by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    I'd worked it out two thirds of the way through. It's not a terrible book but certainly didn't live up to the hype IMHO.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:Fuck Ender's game, give me Moties by aitikin · · Score: 1

      But when did you read it? Sure, reading it today, it's no a surprise to think of a video game actually controlling war, but 30 years ago...

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      "Don't meddle in the affairs of a patent dragon, for thou art tasty and good with ketchup." ~ohcrapitssteve
  50. Re:Neuromancer is not in the list ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nooo! Splice was terrible.

  51. Only superficially related by Quila · · Score: 1

    The movie started off as a meaningless Sci-Fi action flick called But Hunt or something like that. Then sometime during production they got the rights to Starship Troopers and superficially added a few elements of the book to the movie. Verhoeven never read the whole book, and most of the writers had never even heard of it.

    1. Re:Only superficially related by dpilot · · Score: 1

      Did you mean "Bug Hunt" or "Butt Hunt". The former would be Sci-Fi action, the latter would be pr0n.

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    2. Re:Only superficially related by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

      I didn't like the book. Although Starship Troopers introduced novel ideas, such as powered combat suits, I thought it was a didactic essay by Heinlein about corporal punishment and military citizenship. Surprisingly, some of his other books did a complete 180 such as SiaSL

    3. Re:Only superficially related by Quila · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought it was a didactic essay by Heinlein about corporal punishment and military citizenship. Surprisingly, some of his other books did a complete 180 such as SiaSL

      The contradiction is only apparent since that is not what ST was about. It was about the idea that you cannot have social responsibility without first being willing to make a personal sacrifice for the greater good, and that letting those who aren't willing to do so have a say in the society is detrimental. In the novel, such willingness is shown through federal service, but that service was not necessarily military. Also, about military citizenship, people in the military were not allowed to vote. It is only after service that franchise is gained, so nobody in the service can be running the country.

      This novel is similar to SiaSL in that contemporary social norms are challenged. In our democracy it's automatically assumed to be a fundamental right that everybody gets to vote, and Heinlein challenges this. Also at the time our army was a conscripted force, still mostly segregated by race, and with deep divides on ethnicity. Women at the time had a very peripheral role in the military. Heinlein used the concept of a completely volunteer force that is integrated by race and ethnicity, and in which women serve equally. The idea of a free person is taken so far that a soldier could legally quit to avoid being sent into battle, since you can't force a person to be willing to sacrifice for the good of the society. Many concepts of the novel were quite socially progressive for its time, and some these are still now.

      And of course the strongest connection between the two novels is that Hershal in SiaSL and the teacher in ST are both considered to be the voice of Heinlein speaking through his characters.

    4. Re:Only superficially related by dpilot · · Score: 1

      A few comments, tangentially related. I was one of those who liked "Starship Troopers" and didn't see it as facist.

      I never served, and sometimes I wish I had, but I think there's another problem with the concept. After high school I was college bound - I grew up during the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo days, and when my country called for STEM, I answered. I wasn't going to college to party for 4 years, or to dodge the draft - I was going for science, and wound up in engineering. Would it have been the best use of our nation's resource - me and others like me - to take someone headed for science and engineering, and park him behind a gun?

      In decades-later retrospect, I wish there had been more sensible alternatives for national service for people like me. I think of an internship in a lab somewhere, spending some time as a bottle-washer, some time as a gofor, and likely some time getting lessons and tutoring.

      As for sacrifice... "They" keep talking about the "fiscal cliff" and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts as if it's the worst possible thing, and will absolutely KILL the economy. I seem to remember feeling at my personally most prosperous during the Clinton years - before the Bush tax cuts. Since then I have a bad joke as another year goes with no pay raise, "We've all got to make sacrifices so our CEO can get his double-digit compensation increase." I would be willing to make the sacrifice of my share of that tax cut, if it would help balance the budget. It might crimp my style a little, but I strongly suspect a little drop in my spending is nothing compared to economic loss of laid-off workers from budget cuts.

      As far as I can tell, the people who generally don't want to make any sacrifice for the good of their nation are the top tax bracket - keeping in mind that that top tax bracked has only been lower a few times since before the Great Depression. One of those low-tax times was immediately before the Great Depression, too. And if the Bush tax cuts expire, the top rate goes from somthing like third-lowest to fourth-lowest - during the Clinton years it just wasn't that high. (I'll agree that capital gains are another matter, but there are other arguments about that one.)

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      The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
    5. Re:Only superficially related by Quila · · Score: 1

      Would it have been the best use of our nation's resource - me and others like me - to take someone headed for science and engineering, and park him behind a gun?

      You too good to fight for your country? Are you like John Kerry, thinking only stupid people enlist? I enlisted, and I was a high-scoring total geek. It surprised the hell out of them to find out I could also shoot better than most.

      Seriously, in the book federal service can be accomplished using science, engineering or even teaching skills instead of shooting things. A person with engineering skills might find himself an engineer on a spaceship, or back on Earth designing them. And they didn't want cannon fodder in the infantry either, unlike the movie. The training was extremely rigorous, designed so that most candidates fail.

      As far as taxes, that's forcibly taking from citizens. It does not fit into the model of being willing to sacrifice for the society. Donating heavily to the goverment, or to charity, would. Now where is George Soros donating some of his billions directly to the treasury or to charity? Instead, he uses that money to elect people who will forcibly take that money from others. OTOH, he has enough influence over the Democrats to make sure the tax laws don't take any more than he wants to give, so for himself, you could say he is giving willingly. One rule for the ultra-rich...

    6. Re:Only superficially related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whether it's 'services earns citizenship' (read: the right to vote) or a poll tax or Jim Crow, it's all the same. Any type of law that discourages rather than encourages more voting is an assault on democracy and a nod to totalitarianism.

    7. Re:Only superficially related by Quila · · Score: 1

      Any type of law that discourages rather than encourages more voting is an assault on democracy and a nod to totalitarianism.

      Non-citizens can't vote, felons can't vote in most states. These are nods to totalitarianism?

      In the framework of the book, the government must provide the opportunity to everyone to earn the right to vote. And that leads to the most basic question: Is the power to have influence over your fellow citizens by means of voting or serving in government something that should be handed out to everybody without regard to their demonstrated willingness to serve that society? Or should such power be earned?

      It's not a nod to totalitariansim as long as the *opportunity* to earn that power is equal as in the book, and all other rights of non-voters are protected. Our country was founded on equal opportunity, but in recent years that has been warped to mean equal results.

      Any type of law that encourages people who really don't care to vote, or are completely ignorant of anything, is an assault on a well-functioning democracy. I've heard "man on the street" interviews, and they are scary regardless of who is doing them. I really liked the multiple people who said they'll be voting for Obama, and they think his VP candidate Paul Ryan is great, and that (in 2012) they won't be voting for Sarah Palin. These are people who should not have any input into how our government is run. They obviously don't care enough about their country to become minimally informed of what they're voting for, yet their vote will count the same as the most intelligent, well-informed patriot in the country.

    8. Re:Only superficially related by dpilot · · Score: 1

      No, not too good to fight for my country. I also knew that my shooting was mediocre. At my time, I was in one of the last lotteries - I don't know what my actions would have been had I been picked, other than take the physical. I think by that time they weren't calling anyone up. Beyond that, the only apparent logical choice to me was to move on to college as directly as possible, and continue my education. The other options you speak of weren't apparent, at the time. They also may not have existed at the time.

      As for the rest, thank you for the education in logic. There are elements of that logic that I've been missing for some time, and you have clarified them for me.

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  52. Vin Diesel by Quila · · Score: 1

    He is a D&D-playing, video game-producing geek.

  53. Starship Troopers... by way2slo · · Score: 1

    Well yes they would call the book facist seeing as how it spend a good bit of time telling us how democracy was stupid. Then again, considering how democracy is faring in Europe and the US, perhaps we should all go read it and see how it relates to the current political crisis of "people had been led to believe that they could simply vote for whatever they wanted... and get it, without toil, without sweat, without tears."

    A faithful movie adaptation would have our stars debating political history in classrooms for most of the movie with intermittent combat sequences. In a word, boring. I think they did a good job with the movie. It's entertaining. "Medic!"

    1. Re:Starship Troopers... by dpilot · · Score: 2

      Heinlein and EE Doc Smith both spent a fair amount of time disparaging the pee-pul, and both were bullish on capitalists.

      I don't think either would have recognized most of today's industry leaders as capitalists. They were both big on "good pay for good work," "enlightened self-interest," and the like. I think the concept of a company that exists pretty much solely to extract value out of other working companies, saddling them with debt, sometimes to the point of bankruptcy, would have been shocking to them.

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  54. nanosuit by SebNukem · · Score: 1

    The Prototype is wearing a nanosuit.

  55. Im skipping work to see the Hobbit by peter303 · · Score: 1

    At most, one month a year is worth this deviousness.

  56. Re:ah, Ender's game (spoiler) by khallow · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but I don't think I do. Card had a good book in Ender's Game. But the follow on books just aren't that interesting to me. I don't have a problem with Card earning his keep from milking the franchise, but I'd rather read something a bit more fresh.

  57. 2013 you say? by kazekirifx · · Score: 1

    Yes, 2013 sounds like a very good year in which to set my futuristic sci-fi film. "In the year 2013..." sounds so damn futuristic. (Seriously, it does.)

  58. District 9... by DirtyLiar · · Score: 1

    ...sucked.

    It had no heroes, only bad guys. Not even anybody to identify with, except for the alien that died, and his son.

    Even the oppressed aliens (obviously representing violent gangs and gang-bangers) were stupid, violent, and self-destructive.

    The main character was a coward, insanely confident, and a self-centered idiot, either oblivious to, or uncaring about the harm the system he was in did. Blind to the needs and sentience of his charges and quick to believe and use violence as his only tool. ONLY caring about things that directly effected himself and his position, not only at the expense of the aliens in his charge, but also at the expense of his fellow humans. Both individually, and collectively.

    Only doing "the right thing" in the end because he needed a 'cure' to his alien transformation. And doing a "right thing" that was likely to start war between planet-locked Humans, and a spacefairing civilization. Very dumb, very self-centered, very myopic, and with absolutely no redeeming characteristics at all. And he's going to be our ambassador to an alien race. A war criminal who had actively participated in, and partially planned, genocide against the aliens in his care.

    I both dread, and look forward to a sequel. Mostly out of curiosity about how the aliens will react to the news that their brothers had been ghettoized, and intentualy exterminated because they were inconvenient. I know how we would react if the roles were reversed.

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  59. Re:Neuromancer is not in the list ? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    But the director of Splice is the guy behind Cube, which is why I still have hope for him.

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