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Reiser4 File System Still In Development
An anonymous reader writes "Reiser4 still hasn't been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, but it's still being worked on by a small group of developers following Hans Reiser being convicted for murdering his wife. Reiser4 was updated in September on SourceForge to work with the Linux 3.5 kernel and has been benchmarked against EXT4, Btrfs, XFS, and ReiserFS. Reiser4 loses out in most of the Linux file-system performance tests, has much stigma due to Hans Reiser, and Btrfs is surpassing it feature-wise, so does it have any future in Linux ahead?"
If you can find any name that's not related to murdering your wife, go for it. Bonus points if it's catchy.
One of the strneghts, and weaknesses, of the OSS community is trying bunches of things in parrell to see which ones pan out well. But after a point, it is probably better to just like a project die. Granted no one can tell the individual developers what is 'worth' their time since that is a personal matter, I am sure other projects could use their talents more then this one. ReiserFS is a solution looking for a problem where better solutions surpass it.
There's going to be a few off color jokes. May as well get started.
* It's a killer filesystem.
* My disk died. Was ReiserFS the murderer?
* It's more cutting edge than Reiser's knife.
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It would need a lot more configurable flags and useless values to tweak for us Gentoo folks to take it up. :-)
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On the bight side, Hans might have a 20 year all expenses paid development cycle ahead of him. Think of the contribution he could make if allowed to.
Talk about making productive use of prisoners time.
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has much stigma due to Hans Reiser
Really? You can't just judge it based on it's features and performance?
So if Linus Torvalds ever commits a crime, you'll stop using Linux?
The murder scandal got the project waylaid long enough that everyone else moved on.
Even if the stigma that threw banana peels in the way is gone, reiser4 is still far behind.
If it's open source, cannibalize it and take the features.
There is no reason why a convict should be denied the tools and space to develop software when that software is in everyone's best interest. Even if it was some sort of nonsense app that would provide an income for a convict following release or just keep his skills up to par so that he had hope of earning a living upon release it would be in the public interest.
One of the main reasons for another conviction often relates to convicts being kept out of decent jobs when they are put on the streets. If people can not earn a living they don't just dry out like a worm on a sidewalk. A legal living made unavailable will steer them into crime, or cause drunken behaviors that lead to re-arrest.
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People always say X is the killer FS, no Y is the killer FS. Well, this one really is.
Dark humor aside, back in 2003-2004 in my university lab we were running a project that required processing of massive amounts of small files. I had trial runs over the linux file systems of the era and Reiser (I guess version 3 back then?) was so much faster in that context that it could actually save significant processing time. So it I always thought it a real shame that the main developer committed murder and development pretty much stopped back then. Yeah, there are now faster and better FSs, but perhaps Reiser would be a great option as well.
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Einstein did invent the atomic bomb, didn't he...?
LOL no that's not really his thing. It was a big physics project and he was a physicist some decades before Trinity, but that's about as much connection as exists.
Its like asking who invented the computer (or the internet), the real invention is the very twisty logic required to narrow it down to only and exactly one person.
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I stopped using ReiserFS long before it's namesake was arrested. It used to lose data. That's pretty much a showstopper for a filesystem who's claim to fame was reliability.
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The bottom of the first page in Phoronix's benchmarks says "The disk drive being used for all testing was a high-end 160GB Intel SSD." Since different filesystems are optimized for different things, it seems such benchmarks could be completely irrelevant for anyone using hard drives (where seek times are very significant compared to SSD).
ReiserFS was the best FS out there for a while. This is the next version of it. I'm curious about it, just for that reason.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
The murder of his wife was the straw that broke the camel's back, but for me, I started turning away from Reiser based on the sliminess of the Burke character he played in "Aliens". Of course, that "Mad About You" shit didn't help much, either.
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Will more people think of Ted Bundy, a serial killer, or Al Bundy, a character played by Ed O'Neill on the sitcom Married with Children?
Sorry for being on topic. I remember discussing this on /. and I'm still kinda surprised Hans actually did it. I still think it was a bad conviction, even if it randomly happened to have turned out to be correct. Kind of like the salem witch trial convictions were wrong, even if we somehow figured out one of them was a real live magical genuine witch after the fact (however unlikely that would be).
Yeah, it was so terrible that they had evidence rather than loony conspiracy theories like Hans and his defense attorneys were throwing out. He was not some person being prosecuted for being "weird" or other such nonsense that you defenders kept claiming. He was an emotional and physical abusive asshole who murdered his wife for having the 'audacity' to leave an abusive relationship. He deserves no sympathy.
Einstein did invent the atomic bomb, didn't he...?
No. Einstein's threory was necessary for its invention, but the primary guys were Niels Bohr and Enrico Fermi. In 1934 the idea of chain reaction via neutron was proposed by Leó Szilárd, who patented the idea of the atomic bomb (British patent 630,726). See wikipedia.
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Yeah, you shouldn't be. It was obvious to the police, and to those of us here not in love with the 'aspie geek as lovable, misunderstood misanthrope' stereotype that he did it. The minute the evidence came out, it screamed "he totally fucking killed her!" From Nina disappearing without her passport or money or cell phone, to Hans hosing out the interior of his car, to buying police procedure textbooks, all after Nina started to separate from him... Don't let Alex Belits' contortions confuse you. It was a good conviction based on straightforward evidence of first degree murder.
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Einstein did invent the atomic bomb, didn't he...?
No, no he fucking didn't.
By the time you are considering using an atomic bomb, I guess being sued for patent infringement is the least of your concerns.
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I think the fact that he confessed to killing her and then proceeded to lead police to her body is a pretty good indication of his guilt: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Reiser-confesses-to-strangling-estranged-wife-3197731.php
--I call BS on this - I used Reiserfs in "production" on my systems for years. Yes, there were some problems with loopback/VM filesystems, but they fixed that bug a long time ago. There *is* a reiserfsck utility. Yes, it could use some improvements and a bit more paranoia for fixups in real-world cases, but it's not like it doesn't exist at all.
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