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Former Australian Cop Wants Jail For Internet Trolls

beaverdownunder writes "A former police officer in the Australian state of Victoria has called on law enforcement to prosecute creators of hate pages on social media following Facebook's decision to close down a page mocking Jill Meagher, the 29-year-old Melbourne woman abducted and killed last month. Susan McLean, who spent 27 years with Victoria Police before launching her cyber safety consultancy three years ago, said police have the ability to prosecute the creators of pages that are in breach of Australian laws but appear to be unwilling to use it. 'There have been many cases in the UK where these people have been hunted down and charged and jailed. We need to do that in Australia.' Under section 474.17 of the Commonwealth Crimes Act, it is an offense to use 'a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offense,' punishable by three years in jail."

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  1. TROLL THIS MOTHERFUCKERS !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Eat shit and die !!

    1. Re:TROLL THIS MOTHERFUCKERS !! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Believe it or not, I think the parent post was on topic.

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    2. Re:TROLL THIS MOTHERFUCKERS !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As an aussie I can tell you our police are idiots - this is proof. The simple fact she doesnt even know the definition of a troll, vs someone using hate speech shows how nieve she is. 3 years of xp eating donuts does not qualify you.

  2. *shiver* by Loopy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The world is a big, mean, scary place full of ill-intentioned people who will take advantage of the uneducated and the less-vigilant.

    s/people/governments/ig

    Question: do you think it is easier to defend yourself against hateful onslaught by ill-intentioned individuals or against governments that will take away your life, liberty and property just because you aren't toeing the party line? Follow-up: what do you suppose are some of the best ways to defend against tyranny? /popcorn

    1. Re:*shiver* by swanzilla · · Score: 5, Funny

      Follow-up: what do you suppose are some of the best ways to defend against tyranny?

      Moat. Can't go wrong with a moat.

    2. Re:*shiver* by ToadProphet · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also,

      MAY CONTAIN PEANUTS

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    3. Re:*shiver* by vgerclover · · Score: 4, Funny

      Moat alligators are known to cause Cancer in the state of California.

  3. Do Not Want! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

    a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offense,' punishable by three years in jail."

    Cause offense? Your existance offends me! Your funny-colored hair offends me! The fact that you're a man, woman, human, or bovine offends me! See, that's the problem with "cause offense" -- it's entirely subjective. It depends on the recipient. No free country should have a law on the books claiming things that are offensive are illegal, anymore than people should be liable for the emotional reactions of others. When you make something criminal, you need to be specific about the behavior. "Entered house with force and intent to steal." That's provable, objective, and fairly unambiguous. "Caused emotional distress" can't be proven, it's totally subjective, and highly ambiguous. In any criminal test, you have to ask yourself: Could a reasonable person determine ahead of time that the behavior in question was (unambiguously) illegal?

    Kill this law with fire, and while you're at it, tell the legislator to fuck off, eat a bag of dicks, and that his face is ugly. But be sure to put a smiley face at the end... we wouldn't want to sound... offensive. In other news, please enjoy this politically, culturally, and sexually correct joke:

    ___________________________________

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    1. Re:Do Not Want! by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Funny

      A priest, a minister, a rabbi and a polar bear walk into a bar. Bartender says: "What is this, some kind of joke?".

    2. Re:Do Not Want! by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Americans used to say, "I hate what you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

      Actually, that was Voltaire, a french man best known for writing such withering critiques of certain written works that the authors would commit suicide. He said "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Americans paraphrase it by just saying "free speech, fuck yeah!"

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    3. Re:Do Not Want! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Funny

      A minister, a priest and a rabbi went for a hike one very hot day. They were sweating profusely by the time they came upon a small lake with a sandy beach. Since it was a secluded spot, they left all their clothes on a big log, ran down the beach to the lake and jumped in the water for a long, refreshing swim.

      Refreshed, they were halfway back up the beach to the spot they'd left their clothes, when a group of ladies from town came along. Unable to get to their clothes in time, the minister and the priest covered their privates and the rabbi covered his face while they ran for cover in the bushes.

      After the ladies wandered on and the men got dressed again, the minister and the priest asked the rabbi why he covered his face rather than his privates.

      The rabbi replied, "I don't know about you, but in MY congregation, it's my face they would recognize."

  4. Sure by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure lets all put them on a boat and ship them to an island.

  5. Re:end of slashdot by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would think a better definition of troll will be needed. If we use the Slashdot definition it would be prison for anyone who think Microsoft actually has some good products. Doesn't agree with RMS view of Free and Open Source Software. Likes patents. Doesn't consider Android Linux when talking about market share. Does consider Android Linux when talking about Free Software. Thinks Religion and Science can get along, or tries to defend their religion. Claims that New Technology is better the older version. Who didn't like "Cloud Technology" before RMS said it was bad. Who Likes "Cloud Technology" after RMS said it was bad. Doesn't jump to the worst possible scenario on a sliding scale argument.

    If we used Slashdot definition in essence all the people who actually think for themselves without following the general consensus would be in prison.

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  6. Re:end of slashdot by spauldo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, it'd be funny, if so many of you weren't actually stupid enough to believe this.

    There's a lot of /. users. Anyone who gets some karma has mod points they can use. Anything you say will likely have someone who disagrees with you on this site. Unfortunately, some people are just a bit too quick with the "troll" tag on the moderation system. Usually other mods will compensate, but shit happens sometimes. That doesn't mean you're a troll, and no one (well, hardly anyone) thinks you're a troll unless you're actually trolling.

    Some guy on another story was whining about how /. has this huge socialist bias and was made up of people who feel guilty working for corporations so they demand higher taxes and more restrictions on the GPL. He apparently just doesn't see all the libertarians cluttering up the place in here, just like you don't see all the anti-RMS, pro-Microsoft, and even pro-religion comments in here. They are there, and if they're in the minority, well, that's just the way it goes. You're going to have a minority any time there's more than a few people who disagree.

    These posts are meant for discussion, not syncophantic circlejerking. People are going to disagree with you. Yes, some assholes are going to abuse the moderation system. If you don't like it, you're free to create your own private IRC channel and rant to yourself all day long where no one can disagree with you.

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